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Memorandum
TO: Commissioners' Court
FROM: Franklin Johnston, P.E., County Engineer
Leonard Odom, Jr., County Road Administrator
DATE: February 3, 1997
RE: Street Sign Request
On February 14, 1991, the Court approved for us to install private road signs on County
right-of--way. In June 1994, the Court said we were responsible for their upkeep.
A Mr. Jack Glatthaar was sent to our office from 911 requesting signs for Aqua Vista, a private
subdivision. He wanted to purchase approximately 10 signs from us and install them himself.
We were unable to answer his questions.
Since the sign machine that Ken 911 received from a grant was given to Road & Bridge, we
assume that some time in the future we will be expected to do some signing of private roads.
.-. Before we can do this, we have several questions that need clarification:
1. Does 911 have a color designation for signs? We currently place a stripe of red
reflective tape on the bottom o~the green street blanks for private signs that we install.
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2. In Mr. Glatthaar case, he did not want us to install or maintain the signs. How do we
know they are installed properly?
3. In the past all signs have been placed on County right-of--way so that we do not have
to enter private property. Can we le^gall~y enter private property to work on such
signs? ~ ~,-~Y~ s ~~ ~ ~? C~~-
4. ff we make a sign that does not go on County right-of--way, do we replacelmaintain it
after installation? `,~~'
5. Who is responsible for the cost incurred in making and installing these signs? The
cost and labor would be different for each sign depending upon the length of the name.
Memorandum
To: Commissioners' Court
From: Leonard Odom, Jr. & Franklin Johnston, P.E.
Date: Ob/23I1994
Subject: Sign Installed on Non-County Road
In April of 1991 the Court agreed to allowed Road & Bridge to install signs on non-county
maintained roads at a charge of $70.00 as long as they were on County right-of-ways(see attached
memos).
We received a request from Delores Powers for a street sign on anon-county road. She had a
letter form 911 approving a road name and giving her an address. June 15, 1994, Mrs. Powers
paid for the sign, we installed the sign (Powers Place) on the Kerr County right-of--way of
Mountain Drive. The neighbor removed it the following day.
We ask the Court direct us on the replacement of this sign.
v
T0: Commissioner's Court
FROM: Truby Harden, Kerr County Road & Bridge
a,4TE; February 14, 1991
RE: Putting Signs on Non-County Roads
The Road & Bridge department has been asked to install signs
on roads that are not maintained by the County. I have been told that
the sign crew does not sign such roads. However, there are some
non-county roads that have Kerr County signs.
I ask that you consider this issue so that we might be
consistant when answering these requests.
To aid you 1n making your decision, I have prepared the
following cost estimate per sign.
COST OF PUTTING UP a STREET S I GN
. 8' post
"~ 2' footer
24" sign
4" letter
1 bag of concrete
1 cuppl ing
1 clamp w/bolt
1 tap cap
1.55 per f t.
1.55 per f t.
9.50
.19 (avg. name 9)
12.40
3.10
9.50
1.71
2.59
3.80
4.20
3.90
29.85
Labor per hr. 1 1.94 ~ 2.5 hrs.
TOTaL COST $ 71.05
COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST
~' * PLEASE FURNISH ONE ORIGINAL AND FIVE COPIES OF THIS REQUEST AND
DOCUMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT
MADE BY: Franklin Johnston. P.E.
Leonard Odom, Jr.
OFFICE: Road & Bridge Department
MEETING DATE: February 10, 1997 TIME PREFERRED:
SUBJECT:(PLEASE BE SPECIFIC): Clarification of signs for private roads.
EXECUTIVE SESSION REQUESTED: YES
NO XX
PLEASE STATE REASON: Clarification of signs for private roads.
ESTIMATED LENGTH OF PRESENTATION: 10 minutes
PERSONNEL MATTER -NAME OF EMPLOYEE:
NAME OF PERSON ADDRESSING THE COURT: Franklin Johnston. P.E./Leonard Odom, Jr.
Time for submitting this request for Court to assure that the matter is posted in accordance with Title 5, Chapters 551 & 552 of the
Government Code is as follows.
Meetings held on first Monday: 5:00 P. M. previous Tuesday
Meetings held on•Thursdays: 5:00 P_M. previous Thursday
THIS REQUEST RECEIVED BY:
THIS REQUEST RECEIVED ON: Cca
All Agenda Requests wiii be screened by the County Judges Office to determine if adequate information has been prepared for the
Court's formal consideration and action at time of Court meetings. Your cooperation will be appreciated and contribute towards your
request being addressed at the earliest opportunity. See Agenda Request Guidelines.
Item 2.6 Consider and
Clarification of signs
for private roads.
Discussion Only
February 10, 1997
Vol. V pg 49