0809992.6
ITEM NO. 2.6
NO ORDER ISSUED
SEE OFFICIAL COURT REPORTERS TRANSCRIPT
REGULAR COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA
MONDAY, AUGUST 9, 1999 - 9:00 A.M.
COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST
PLEASE FURNISH ONE ORIGINAL AND NINE COPIES OF THIS REQUEST AND DOCUMENTS
TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT.
MADE BY: Larry Griffin/David Motley OFFICE: Commissioner, Precinct 4
MEETING DATE: August 9, 1999 TIME PREFERRED:
SUBJECT: (PLEASE BE SPECIFIC)
Consider and discuss recent findings of the TxDOT county road mileage survey and
issues related to the survey's conduct.
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IF PERSONNEL MATTER -NAME OF EMPLOYEE:
Commissioner Griffin
IS minutes
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Reference the memo from the Roads & Bridges department, dated July 26, 1999
The referenced memo raises several concerns, particularly the situation outlined in
paragraph 1. Involving Hurt-Prior Road.
I would like to discuss having the County Attorney's office send letters to the
landowners involved reminding them of the public's right of access to public roads and
the possible legal consequences of accosting law abiding citizens (including TxDOT
crews doing their job) on public road right of ways.
I would also like to discuss landowners' rights in posting "No Trespassing" signs on
public road right of ways.
Larry Griffin
990809 BU S.doc
8/3/99
Kerr County Road & Bridge
4010 San Antonio Hwy
Kerrville, Texas 78028
Franklin Johnston. PB. Leonard Odom, Jr.
County Engineer Road Administrator
TO: Commissioners ourt
FROM: Truby Hazdi
DATE: July 26, 1999
RE: Road Survey by Texas Department of Transportation
This past week the TxDOT came back to Kerr County to do corrections on the road survey. On the first
day they incurred the following problems:
1. Hurt-Prior, Pct. 4.
ARer they went the length of the road and were leaving Dwight Smith (ranch overseer) blocked
their exit with his truck and verbally assaulted them. They did give us credit for the distance of
this road, but they attached a permanent note to that road to never return to the road.
2. Littlefield, Pct. 4
There was a "No Trespassing" sign posted facing traffic'/z way down this road and they can not go
beyond a "No Trespassing" sign. If it is removed they will correct the mileage next yeaz.
Wilson Ranch Road, Pct.4 (Behind MO Ranch)
There was a locked gate. No county maintained road is to have a locked gate.
After the first day of the survey, they called to tell us they were working in the area and told us about the
problems listed above. I furnished them with a camera and asked them to take pictures of any problem
areas. I also told them if they found any improper "No Trespassing" signs we would see that they were
removed or properly placed. They found and photographed the following:
Road
South Fork of Lane Valley
Hermann Sons (Vogus)
Lindner Branch
Saw Mill Road
Albrecht
Telephone:830-257-2993
FAX 830-896-8481
Pct Problem
Signs on a tree facing traffic in both directions.
Signs on a tree facing traffic in both directions.
Signs on tree facing traffic.
Sign on tree near end of pavement.
3 Signs as you leave pavement.
E-mail: kcroads@Idc.com
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Kerr County received credit for these roads, but if they are not corrected they will be removed next year.
The foreman at each of these locations is going to visit with the landowner and correct these signs.
TxDOT will submit a corrected mileage to the County Judge and to the State Treasurer for Lateral Road
Funding.
They will return every year to make corrections, additions, or deletions. If you have any questions about
tl~project the TxDOT representative is Martin Broad
P O Box 149217
Austin, Texas 78714-9217
Phone: 5 ~ 2-486-5058
TelepdoA~ 830-257-29*~ E-mail: kcroads(ri),IRC.c~
FAX 830-896-8481