ORDER NO. X61^c3
REPROVE PRELIMINRRY PLAT OF
RRIVILEGE CREEK. RRNCHES
On this the 2nd day of November 1959, upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner- Let z, the Court
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, the Preliminary Plat
of Pr^ivilege Creek Ranches_
COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST
PLEASE FURNISH ONE ORGINAL AND NINE COPIES OF THIS REQUEST AND DOCUMENTS
TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT.
MADE BY: Franklin Johnston P.E.
MEETING DATE: November 22. 1999
OFFICE: Road & Bridge
TIME PREFERRED:
SUBJECT: (PLEASE BE SPECIFIC) Consider Preliminary Plat of Privilege Creek Ranches Pct 3
EXECUTIVE SESSION REQUESTED: (PLEASE STATE REASON
NAME OF PERSON ADDRESSING THE COURT: Don VoelkeVFranklin Johnston_ P E.
ESTIMATED LENGTH OF PRESENTATION: 10 minutes
IF PERSONNEL MATTER -NAME OF EMPLOYEE:
Time for submitting this request for Court to assure that the matter is posted in accordance with
'"' Title 5, Chapter 551 and 552, government Code, is a follows:
Meeting scheduled for Mondays: 5:00 P.M. previous Tuesday
THIS REQUEST RECEIVED BY:
THIS REQUEST RECEIVED ON:
All Agenda Requests will be screened by the County Judge's Office to determine if adequate information has
been prepazed for the Court's formal consideration and action at time of Court Meetings. Your cooperation
will be appreciated and contribute towards your request being addressed at the earliest opportunity. See
Agenda Request Rule Adopted by Commissioners' Court.
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AGENDA DATE REQIiESTED: ~OYQ,tv~buy~ ~.1t ~qq,~
1. Submit six t'Rj-copies of Plat and Drainage Study to the Kerr County Engineer, for
Review Thirty (30) days prior to Commissioner's Coutt Date.' • Qne will be forwarded
immediately to the Commissioner of the Precinct in which the Preliminary Plat or
Preliminary Replat Lies.
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2, Submit one (1) Copy of Preliminary Plat to County Clerk and arrange for payment of fees
per~ICerr County Subdivision Rules & Regulations.
[ Preliminary Plat [ ] Preliminary Replat
Amount PaildI~S~, Signature: J ~itJE7~ 7s~Ae,~- !! -.3'99
(r a" '~ `[ V `~ I , t~l~~l . ,(1 ~ (County Clert~ OftSce Dale
3. Submit one (1) copy of Preliadnary Plat to Upper Guadalupe River Authority
[ 1 Permit app}ication and support data for On-site Sewage Facilities
[ ] Flood Plain information
Fee Amount Paid S ~~ ~ es Received by: ~ ~ 1 ~" 3 J~7
Date
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4. 9l 1 STREET NAIv~S (if applicable); The attached Plat is for Preliminary Review. Ti1e-
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mr'phtts')" Disa,ss with the 5urveyorBngineer any potential problems.
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IFPlatting includes any utility easements or changes to an existing easement notification of
the Utilities involved are. required for Preliminary Plat, Utility shall give
Surveyor/Engineet easement notes required-~
1 Electric UtiGty~ \ ~'C:a yi.-( /~ C'_,~.._~
2. Telephone Company: ~,.y,_ ba. , Ea..tr,~,~.1.~
(This shall be added to Final Plat ifMylar applicable) Fax copies-s acceptable
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6 If Platting has access to Texas Depanme of Transpotta Roadway a copy of
Preliminary Plst must be reviewed by the T T E ' ear. Signature on this form
indicates receipt of Preiminary Plat, sign myl o nal approval.
Signatur
(T3mOT Eu~ r) Date
' * You tmrst rhea COMPLETE this jornr and return it to the Corurry Engineer Fijteerr (1 S)
days before Commissiaaer's Court Agerrda Date.
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everyone, but it's out at our office, so I'll bring it oven
this afternoon.
COMMISSIONER LF.TZ: That was probably the Quickest
approval process I think I've ever seen. I heazd about it,
had a preliminary and a final within a month.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Pretty good.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And a dcainage easement. and
study.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Next item is Item No. 7, consider
the preliminary plat of Privilege Creek Ranches.
Commissioner Letz.
COMMISSIONER LF.TZ: This is a tract -- I think Mr.
Baumann, who owns the tract, is in the audience. It's in the
f.ar right on the Kendall County line. Access to the
subdivision is going to be, really, through Kendall County,
through Kuykendal Road, which goes in the old Seven-Eleven
Ranch. Some of you all know this borders my property, right?
I think that's probably why Commissioner Baldwin is laughing
over there. It's a very rugged tract. It's divided into
tracts that axe very nice. I think it conforms to what's
going on In Champee Springs, iust to the east. Pzivate
roads. The only issue 1s if you look up, 7 guess the top
poztion of it, there's a landing strip designated. And that
landing strip is going to be converted into a road to serve
one lot, being Lot 7, which it's a 7.09-acre tract. And, I
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believe that Mr. Baumann would like to request a variance on
that. Basically, that lony landing strip is going to be the
driveway to that -- access to that one lot. He would like a
variance so he does not have to bring that one section up to
a local road. All other roads would be a local road.
MR. JOHNSTON: Actually, I was out there Friday,
and he would like to dividt, I think, this into Phase I and
Phase TI, and not build Turkey Nob Road as shown at the
present time. Just build Privilege Creek Road.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mm-hmm.
MR. JOHNSTON: And that would omit Lots 8, 9, and
10, and possibly Lot 7, if they can show that easement across
Lot 6, and not actually build a road. Probably not include
-- not do Lot 7 also until St's sold or Phast II. Th-
landing strip is actually adjacent to the road. There's a
fairly substantial piece of property there- And, we talked
about thaC that might -- might be divided off as a separate
item, jointly used by all the lot owners, landing strip, lust
on Lot 5.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mr. Baumann, will you introduce
yourself for the record?
MR. BAUMANN: I'm McClean Baumann.
MR. JOHNSTON: Thia does show between Lot -- the
corner there of Lots 4, 5, and 6, there's a little cul de sac
shown. This road proceeds on through it.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
MR. JOHNSTON: You know, if that right-of-way's all
dedicated, and Lots 7, 8, 9, and 10 are omitted for Phase II,
you know, I wouldn't have any problem with that. I don't
think we should have a precedent where they should, you know,
just not build part of a road 'cause it's a long road or
something.
COMMISSIONER LET2.: Which lots are going to be in
phase tI?
MR. JOHNSTON: 7, 8, 9, and 1D. All the other ones
face Privilege creek.
(Aiscussion off the record between Hr. Johnston and
Mr. Baumann.)
MR. JOHNSTON: He's saying if you put this in Phase
II, then when do you this part, then you need to upgzade that
road. Or you could even have Phase ITI.
MR. BAUMANN: Well, what I was talking to Mr. Lett
about earlier was -- was not -- that it would be an undue
hardship and expense to make -- you know, make this road up
to specifications just to get one landowner out there, 'cause
it's over 3,000 feet. We wezen't going to subdivide Lot 7.
I was just saying it's undua hardship and expense to get --
to spend 515,000 or 520,000 from the cul-de-sac right Here,
just to get one landowner out tight here. My discussion with
Mr. Lett was you could condition it -- if we were to
subdivide 7, then we would have to being it up to specs.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: To salve the problem now, why
don't you put Lot 6 in Phase II as well, and that way just
end Privilege Creek road at that cul-de-sac, and then it can
be addressed, you Y,now, down the road. Lots 6, 7, 8, 9, and
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MR. BAUMANN: The problem with 6 is we had a buyer
look at it the other day, Lot 6, so it would be kind of -- I
don't know if that's --
MR. JOHNSTON: Well, they could show the -- they
could dedicate that right-of-way --
NR. BAUMANN: We r_ould dedicate the right-of-way.
MR. JOHNSTON: -- without building a road. There's
no lot back there t,o serve.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, a 60-foot right-of-way
through Lot 6.
HR. BAUMANN: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That would be okay, then, if
it's built.
COMMISSIONER
cul-de-sac and stops.
MR. JOHNSTON
that out and just have
MR. BAUMANN:
COMMISSION&R
MR. ERUHANN:
GRIFFIN: Just goes up to the
That landing strip, they can divide
it jointly --
That.'s what we're going to do.
LETZ: It's not ceally shown that way.
Not right now, but we're going to
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g[ve adjacent landowners ar.eess to it.
MR. JOHNSTON: They wouldn't --
MR. BAUHANN: Then there'll be no sub -- we're not
planning on subdividing any of the -- allowing any of the
buyers to subdivide it again, any of the lots. So, this is a
-- this size here will stay heze. That's our intent.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have no problem.
MR. JOHNSTON: There's a little item On Lots 2 and
3, where pact of them are in Kendall County. That would
require a subdivision in Kendall County to finish that up, a
plat in Kendall County.
KR. EAUMANN: It's my understanding here that this
part is -- the Lot 1 and the part -- the part in Kendall
~ County adjacent to Lot 1 has already been submitted for
approval in Kendall County, but the part in Kendall County
adjacent to Lots 2 and 3 has not been submitted. So, I guess
that means you just couldn't build a house in that part of
Lot 2 and Lot 3. You couldn't get a house permit in Kendall
County for those lots.
MR. JONNSTON: I think you have to file a
subdivision with --
MR. BAUMANN: Unless you f1]e a subdivision.
MR. JORNSTON: We didn't file them all together; we
had little pieces.
COMMI9SI ONER LETZ: I thought they went to the
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county lint on Champee Springs, which would include that
tcact. Hut, anyway --
MR. JOHNSTON: That -- yeah, the line shown here.
MR. BAUMANN: Maybe they do.
COMMISSIONER LET2: I thought when we platted, they
actually went to the county line, but I could be wrong.
MR. JOHNSTON: According to Don -- he couldn't be
here today, but he said it was kind of -- that pazt was not
covered.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not covered?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Commissioner Letz, I don't
know if you noticed this or not. You may want to show it to
your colleague down there.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, I noticed that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Great big letters.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: T like that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Because this is one that we
probably don't want to maintain; we couldn't get to it.
COMNISSIONER BALDWIN: Cood luck.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. I move we approve
the --
JUDGE HENN&KE: Commissioner, befoze we do that, I
mean, they've come with a different concept than is presented
to us.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But, it's a preliminary plat
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and they're subject to the changes discussed. You know, I
don't have a problem with doing preliminary.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Do we understand what we're
preliminarily approving now is Phase I and Phase II?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Phase I and Phase II, and with
a -- a 60-foot easement going through Lot 6 to Lot 7.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Are they asking us for approval of
Phase I and Phase II, or just Phase I?
MR. JOHNSTON: Phase I. I guess you can approve
the concept.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't have a problem with
approving the concept; giving them a concept approval, and
then let Engineering redraw it for our next meeting.
JUDGE HENNEKE: My preference would be for to us
approve what's presented to us on the actual plat. I think
it's a good suggestion to consider for a concept approval.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. All right. We can --
you know, I don't know if we need a motion on that, 'cause
it's not -- but, just conceptually, I there's think there's a
consensus of the Court to have it redrawn as Phase I and
Phase TI and bring 3t back at our next meeting.
HR. JOHNSTON: And Lots 7, 8, 9, and 10 would be
Phase II7
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right• Lt would be easement --
with the easement.
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MR. JOHNSTON: And the easement's across 6 to serve
7?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Designate that as an easement.
The roads will be local roads. Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All [fight, thank you.
MR. HAVMANN: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. Nice to see
you. Judge, do you want to go back to that 10 o'clock
matter?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is he here?
(Discussion off the record.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is Mx. Bethel in the eouztxoom now?
MR. BETHEL: Yes, six.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All right. Thank you, Buster,
We'll then go to Item 11, which is consider and discuss a tax
exemption vn a xecozded Texas Historical Landmark at 905
water Street. Mr. Bethel has come to us requesting that we
consider his property for a tax exemption. Mx. Bethel?
MR. BETHEL: Yes. I've pretty well laid out the
details in the lettez there and the request. If there's any
additional questions or any additional information I can
pzovide, I'd be happy to do that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Mr. Bethel, are you asking for a
total exemption or --
MR. BETHEL: Yes, sir, I am. Yes, sir.
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Submit six (copies of Plat and Drainage Study to the Kerr County Engineer, for
Review Thirty (30) days prior to Commissioner's Court Date.** One will be forwazded
immediately to the Commissioner of the Precinct in which the Preliminary Plat or
Preliminary Replat Lies.
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Date
2. Submit one (1) Copy of Preliminary Plat to County Clerk and arrange for payment of fees
per err County Subdivision Rules & Regulations.
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Fee Amount Paid $ I J ~ Qe Received by: ~ "~ ] ~ ~ ~~ 1`'~
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Review Thirty (30) days prior to Commissioner's Court Date.** One will be forwazded
immediately to the Commissioner of the Precinct in which the Preliminary Plat or
Preliminary Replat Lies.
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2. Submit one (1) Copy of Preliminary Plat to County Clerk and arrange for payment of fees
per err County Subdivision Rules & Regulations.
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Date
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