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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Special Session
Monday, June 25, 2001
9:00 a.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas

PRESENT: FREDERICK L. HENNEKE, Kerr County Judge
H.A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2
JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
LARRY GRIFFIN, Commissioner Pct. 4
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1.3	Late Bills /V"~7~`~r	13
1.9	Approve and Accept Monthly Reports
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2.3	Discuss Child Welfare Services fund	16
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2.6	Substitutions on Capital Outlay schedule for the	
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	Falling Water Subdivision, Precinct 3 ~ ' ~ ~ ~	49
2.10	Final revision of plat, Falling Water (above)	51
2.11	PUBLIC HEARING - Revision of plat for Lots 1, 17,	
	18, 19, 21, 22, 44 & common area, Cypress Springs	
	Springs Estates, Phase I	53
2.12	Revision of plat, Cypress Springs Estates (above)	53
2.7	PUBLIC HEARING - finalize adoption of Closed	
	Landfill Inventory for Kerr County
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On Monday, June 25, 2001, at 9:00 a.m, a special meeting
of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the
Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville,
Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court:
P R O C E E D I N G S
JUDGE HENNEKE: It's 9 o'clock in the morning
on June 25th, Year 2001. We will call to order this regular
special meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court.
Commissioner Williams, I believe you have the honors this
morning.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you. Rise,
join me in a word of prayer.
(Prayer and pledge of allegiance.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: At this time, any citizen
wishing to address the Court on an item not listed on the
regular agenda may come forward and do so. Is there anyone
in the audience who would like to address the Court on an
item not listed on the regular agenda? Seeing none, we'll
move on to the Commissioners' comments. Commissioner
Williams?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't have anything
this morning, Judge. We'll just let it flow, in due course.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Commissioner Letz?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Likewise, I really don't
have anything. The comments I have I think will be
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addressed during specific items on the agenda.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Commissioner Griffin?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, it's good to be
back after a nice vacation. I notice that while I was gone,
it got awfully dry. It was fine when I left, so I don't
know what -- what more I could have done. But -- so,
anyway, I had a great vacation, and it's good to be back.
Always good to get home.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Commissioner Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't have a thing.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We're on a roll this morning.
I will remind everyone that our next meeting is Friday, July
the 6th, at 9 o'clock in the morning. Cutoff for agenda
items will be Monday at noon -- Monday, the 2nd, I guess it
is, at noon. We'll have to post the agenda Monday
afternoon. There will be no exceptions to that. Depending
on whether or not the Auditor's office is able to process
some bills, we may have to have a special session to pay
bills, probably on -- perhaps on the 13th. Hopefully, we
can address that on the 6th. Okay. Let's move to the
approval agenda. We have some bills. Anyone have any
questions or comments regarding the bills as presented and
recommended by the Auditor?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move we pay the bills.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Commissioners Court
approve payment of the bills as recommended and presented by
the Auditor. Any further questions or comments? If not,
all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget
amendments. First budget amendment is for Road and Bridge.
MR. TOMLINSON: This is a request from --
from Leonard Odom to transfer $4,610 from Crew Salaries,
$3,312 to Overtime and $1,298 to Part-Time Salaries.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sure, I've got a
question. How -- how could we possibly have $4,600 left in
your Crew Salaries?
MR. TOMLINSON: I think that he -- I mean, I
think there's some he didn't replace immediately. I'm --
I'm not sure. I'm thinking that's what it is, but I know
there's -- I know there's -- there's quite a bit of money
left in Crew Salaries.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, we have -- and
why do we have overtime? Have we had a flood?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Maybe the Hermann
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MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know. I didn't -- I
didn't talk to Leonard about this.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, if they were
here, I've got lots of questions about it. I know you're
the wrong person to ask, Tommy. I didn't mean to badger
you.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: They'll probably be in
later on. Franklin, I'm sure, will be here for the --
MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah, he'll probably know.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I'd like to
know, you know, how -- how did we get this far off in the
budget process and in part-time salaries and overtime?
There hasn't been anything big going on, unless Commissioner
Letz' bridge.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's the County's bridge.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'd like -- I really
would like to know. I'd like for them to explain to the
public of Kerr County how their dollars are being spent.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We can hold this and
readdress it later in the process, if that's the desire of
the Court. Let's go to Number 2, which is from the County
Jail and Sheriff's Department.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. The first part of it
is for the jail. It's to transfer $1,823.87 from Overtime
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to Prisoner Medical, and we do have a bill currently for
that for $1,826. Also -- and for the -- for the Sheriff's
Office, their request to transfer $3,421.34 from Radio
Equipment line item to Vehicle Repairs and Maintenance.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissioner Letz,
seconded by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 2 for the County Jail and
the Sheriff's Department. Any further questions or
comments?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Question.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Sir?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Does that Radio
Equipment line item -- is this going -- does this in any way
impact our ability to move -- keep moving forward with that
program?
JUDGE HENNEKE: No, it does not.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Because we're taking
money out of that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: At this time, it does not.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Because we have ample funds
in there to complete the RFP process, and we'll have to
address the actual purchase of the equipment subsequently.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it does affect
it, though, from the standpoint of -- I mean, we're taking
money that's budgeted for one item and transferring it, so
it will have a future impact, because that money's not going
back into the budget. We're not quite as far along as we
thought we'd be on that.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's what I thought,
but I just didn't recall.
JUDGE HENNEKE: It doesn't have an immediate
impact, but it does have a long-term impact. Any further
questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget
Amendment Number 3 is for J.P. 3.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This is a request from
Judge Tench to transfer $400 from Postage to his Part-Time
Salary.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Do you know the -- I
guess, the reason for it? I mean, it's a pretty big --
MR. TOMLINSON: I know that what he uses it
for is to -- is to pay a substitute when his clerk is out.
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I do -- I believe that she was -- I know she had a problem
when her house burned. I know she was out --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
MR. TOMLINSON: -- some then. And, I know
she probably has a vacation coming, so my -- I don't know
this for sure, but my -- my assumption is that he needs this
additional for her vacation.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissioner
Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, that the Court
approve Budget Amendment Request Number 3 for J.P. 3. Any
further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise
your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget
Amendment Request Number 4 relates to Nondepartmental,
County-Sponsored Activity, and Road and Bridge.
MR. TOMLINSON: We have a bill from Texas
Association of Counties, $27,662.75 for worker's comp. Our
total after -- after our audit, our total premium for -- for
the year is $110,651. We've paid it all except this
$27,662. In the General Fund, in -- in Worker's Comp,
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there's -- there's only $2,302 remaining, and in Road and
Bridge, we already overspent that by $4,749. So, in order
to -- to shift funds to pay this, I'm recommending that we
take $10,217 out of the Appraisal District contract; we
overbudgeted by that amount, by the $10,000, and $9,727 from
Nondepartmental Contingency. That will take care of -- of
the General Fund part of this. And, for the Road and Bridge
part of it, I'm recommending that we take $7,425.34 from
Capital Outlay, which is the amount that remains, and
everything being purchased for that, and, $7,323.60 from
Crew Salaries.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Will that leave enough in
Crew Salaries to get us through the year?
MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, it will.
JUDGE HENNEKE: How did we get so far off on
Workman's Comp and the KCAD contract? I mean, KCAD
contract, I thought, was a number provided by the Appraisal
District.
MR. TOMLINSON: There is a timing factor in
that. We pay -- we pay behind a quarter, and we've already
paid four quarters, and so we don't have another payment due
until October.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay.
MR. TOMLINSON: And, as far -- and the budget
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new budget, so that's -- that's the reason for over.
DODGE HENNEKE; And the workman's comp
premium?
MR. TOMLINSON: Well, the -- we pay worker's
comp for the first three-quarters based on -- on the prior
year. And, so, you know, there's a lot of things that
happen between -- between years, and one is volume, and the
other's experience. And -- and some -- sometimes there's
changes in -- in the rate that is applied to the -- to
different types of employees. And, I have -- I have the
audit in front of me, and our -- our total contribution
before any modifier or -- underwriting modifier or expense
modifier and our discounts -- and our property discount was
$216,355. So, when you -- when you take -- so, all of our
modifiers to our base premium is about 53 percent. So --
and, actually, we're only paying, in hard dollars, the
$110,000.
JUDGE HENNEKE: So, for the -- for purposes
of next year's budget, we ought to work off the 110 instead
of 48,2?
MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. Correct.
DODGE HENNEKE: Okay. Any other questions or
comments?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That was going to be
my question, too, was how does this affect the next budget
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planning cycle so we don't end up having this happen again?
Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Seems to apply to the
KCAD contract. How do we avoid a double whammy on that one,
on the next quarter?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think there's -- I
mean, my experience with Appraisal District, having served
on those boards, is their budget comes later and our payment
is based on their budget, so it's hard to project what their
budget's going to be exactly. I guess we could ask, you
know, for a best guess, what their budget's going to be.
Isn't that correct, Tommy? We base it --
MR. TOMLINSON: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, it's a -- we can
ask for a -- an estimate, but I don't know that they're
going to -- until their board approves their budget, it's
hard for to us know exactly what that amount's going to be.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think what we have
to do is budget assuming that the same situation is going to
occur again. We have to budget on that basis.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: If we don't, we end up
with this.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. I think you can
probably assume -- if you look historically, they're going
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to have 3 or 9 percent increase in their budget, so we ought
to -- maybe 10 perr_ent. You know, we need to just build in
a -- something into our budget.
MR. TOMLINSON: That's probably what we did.
That's the reason we had more money in there than what
actually is --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Do we have a motion?
So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that we approve Budget
Amendment Request Number 4. Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Do we have
any late bills, Tommy? At this time, I'd entertain a motion
to approve and accept the monthly reports as presented.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve
and accept the monthly reports as presented. Any further
questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
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(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JQDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
DODGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. All right.
Let's move to the consideration agenda. The first item we
have is the presentation of award for the Kerr County
Collections program. Good morning.
MR. LEHMAN: Good morning, Judge,
Commissioners. My name is Jim Lehman. I'm with the State
Office of Court Administration. That office, at least twice
a year, gives an award to deserving counties for their
efforts in court collections. It's an honor and a privilege
for me to be here this morning to present this award to Kerr
County and to your Collections Department. I recently read
an article about a man who climbed Mt. Everest, and when he
was interviewed after the climb, the unique thing about this
gentleman is that he's blind, and his quote was, "It doesn't
take sight to climb mountains, just vision." I think Kerr
County's had that vision, and it's reflected in your
Collections Department, and I applaud each of you for taking
a bold step in handling something that most counties would
rather not deal with. Your department is one of the best in
the state. It's a model for other counties to emulate, and
I'd like to congratulate each of you and your Collections
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Manager, Russ Duncan. Thank you.
(Applause.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Wait a minute, you've got to
get the photo. Got to get the photo.
(Discussion off the record.)
MR. DUNCAN: Judge, thank you. And, really,
Jim said it. If it weren't for Commissioners Court and our
County Judge, I couldn't exist, because without your
support, I'd just die on the vine. I appreciate it. Thank
you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We appreciate all the work
you and Brad have done with the Collections Department here.
The revenues reflect the hard work and dedication and the
importance of the program, and we sincerely appreciate your
efforts on behalf of Kerr County.
MR. DUNCAN: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Jim, thank you again for
coming by this morning.
MR. LEHMAN: My pleasure.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Jim, did you know that
I have Mr. Duncan on our program down at Beaumont?
MR. DUNCAN: He's going to be there, too.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, he did tell you
that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. Next item for

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consideration is Item Number 2, consider and discuss a bill
for outstanding contract labor incurred by the Kerr County
Child Services Board. I don't see Mr. Pickens, Commissioner
Baldwin. Are you going the run with this now, or put it
off?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, if you don't
mind, I'd like to, because I voted not to pay the thing, so
it would be a moot point if they're not here to argue. So,
if you don't mind -- and I guess the next couple of them.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Next one will be Item Number
3, which is consider and discuss Child Welfare Services
fund. Do you want to take that one, or --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We can do that one.
Can't we? The president of the board phoned me and asked me
about a particular fund that is collected here. You know,
any time you go and serve on a jury panel in the District
Courts -- I don't know about the rest of the courts, but
upstairs, you're handed a little form that gives you an
option of agencies that you can donate your 5 bucks a day,
or whatever it is -- $5 a day to, and one of them is the
Crime Victim's Compensation fund, and the other is the Child
Welfare Services fund. And, he had called me about that and
we -- we dealt with it at this table a couple of years ago,
and I -- but I could not find anything in the minutes about
it. But, nevertheless, the form that they hand out upstairs
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says that a juror can donate the -- fill out the form and
donate the money, and then that fund is -- the Treasurer
takes that fund and sends it to Austin, and then Austin
disburses it out through the State, and we've probably
received about 16 or 17 cents a year back from the thing.
But, that is incorrect. We've found new law that says that
the -- that that money can be -- stay right here in the
county and go into the -- go into the county budget here in
Kerr County. Mrs. Treasurer, would you like to make a
comment?
MS. NEMEC: Does the Commissioners Court have
to pass an order to that effect?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, it does not.
MS. NEMEC: It does not?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, ma'am. It says
the County Treasurer shall do that.
MS. NEMEC: Okay. So, when the jurors donate
their money, then instead of sending that to the state, I
can just keep it. I haven't seen that law.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You have now.
MS. NEMEC: I'll just make a copy of it.
That's great.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm sorry. I thought
I got it from you. I didn't get that from you?
MS. NEMEC: No, I think you got it from

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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. So, that --
that would answer his question. If we're not doing that at
this time, we obviously will soon be doing that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the difference is the
form they're using now says that the money is sent to Austin
for Child Welfare Services Board, and the new law says the
money will be retained in Kerr County.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's correct.
JUDGE HENNEKE: In a segregated fund for the
Child Welfare Services Board, which probably would prompt
more people to donate their funds if they thought it was
done locally.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So true.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And the way I read
this, the crime victims -- crime fund does still go to
Austin.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It probably does.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So, the form's got to
say one in one case and -- one way in one case and one way
in the other.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, when we do see the
Child Welfare Board people, we can say yes, that that fund
may not have been building here in Kerr County, but it will.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Barbara or Tommy, do we need
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an order to set out a fund for that? I mean, do we need to
do -- since money will be retained locally, do you need
something from Commissioners Court to set up a fund for
Child Welfare Services Board, or do they just go
automatically into that line item?
MR. TOMLINSON: I think we need to maybe set
up a budget.
	MS. NEMEC: It says here in a fund	
establish	ed by the County to be used by the Child	Welfare
Board in	a manner authorized by the Commissioners	Court.
	COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I assu	med that
that was	the line item in the budget.	
	JUDGE HENNEKE: I would assume so,	too.
	MR. TOMLINSON: We'd have to have a	revenue
line item	specifically for that, and -- and then t	he money
would go	into the line item where we expend moneys	for --
for the -	- for the board. Or -- unless the money	goes
directly	to the board. But, I --	
	JUDGE HENNEKE: No, it goes into a	fund for
use by th	e board, for the authorized purposes.	
	COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So, we need	to
establish	a revenue fund? Do we need an order for	that?
	MR. TOMLINSON: I don't think so.	
	JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Well, let's	--
	MS. NDMEC: Where am I going to put	the money
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when it comes in?
MR. TOMLINSON: That's what we'll do. We'll
establish a revenue line item.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The Court doesn't.
Tommy's just going to establish the fund.
MS. NEMEC: Okay.
MR. TOMLINSON: We'll do that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's a good change.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is a good change.
And, if the word -- like you said, Fred, it the word was to
happen to yet out, maybe more people would donate to that --
to that fund.
JUDGE HENNEKE: And Child Welfare Services
Board is -- funds are used to provide services and benefits
to children wlio wouldn't otherwise --
MR. TOMLINSON: There is more --
JUDGE HENNEKE: Such as birthday presents
and --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We're going to talk
about that later
DODGE HENNEKE: -- graduation gifts and caps
and gowns and things like that. Okay.
MR. TOMLINSON: I think that probably -- I
don't know what the law says; I haven't seen it, but I think
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not you wanted to -- to go ahead and budget what we have
budgeted for that service, or -- or you budget additional
money for that service.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the problem with that
is, until we have some track record of how much money will
be donated to that fund, we don't have any revenue.
MR. TOMLINSON: It will be difficult the
first year to do that, so you'd have to --
JUDGE HENNEKE: My suggestion --
MR. TOMLINSON: During the year, you would
have to amend the budget by whatever amount that is.
JUDGE HENNEKE: The first year, we'll
probably just let it ride the way we've done it before, see
what kind of funds we accumulate in that fund, and then
we'll --
MS. NEMEC: It does say on here that the
Court would have to authorize the manner in which the funds
would be used, so if we get a bill and the Court doesn't
approve of it, then we don't have to give them the money.
So, it's entirely up to y'all.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Anything else? Do you
want to do Number 4, Commissioner, on the board members?
COMMISSIONER EALDWIN: No. They're
definitely not here. No, we were hoping that some of them
would come in, and -- and so that we could recognize them,
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JUDGE HENNEKE: We'll come back to it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Let's go to Item Number 5,
which is consider and discuss approval of the form of
interlocal contract for Kerrville State Hospital hearings
and setting of the fees therein provided. Jannett?
M5. PIEPER: Morning, gentlemen. Basically,
the Judge stated what it is. This is just our normal
procedure that we need to go through to approve the contract
for the hearings at the State Hospital. To my knowledge,
nothing has changed, other than just the -- the dates.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Fee structure's the
same?
MS. PIEPER: Fee structure's the same. I
talked to the Sheriff, and he's not due to go up until maybe
next year. He'll look at it then.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court
approve the form of the interlocal contract for Kerville
State Hospital hearings and the fee described therein.
Commissioner, does your motion include authorizing the
County Judge to sign contract?
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN:
too.
It does include that.
And the second does,
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The -- this has been run
through the County Attorney at a prior time? I think it's
the same form.
JUDGE HENNEKE: It was last year. It was
done by -- actually, redone by the County Attorney's office
a year ago.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
MS. PIE PER: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. The next item, Item
Number 6, consider and discuss substitution on the Capital
Outlay schedule for the Hill Country Youth Exhibition Center
budget. Mr. Holekamp.
MR. HOLEKAMP: Morning. What we've done is,
due to some changes and some breakdowns in our -- some of
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year's budget, we've had some unexpected breakdowns, so what
I've proposed to do here is to substitute some items that we
budgeted for, some that we really do need. One of them, the
trailer, that is to be able to haul the skid steer loader
that we got in this year's budget to different work sites.
That's got heavy enough axles to accomplish that. And then
the rotary cutter is a replacement shredder for the parks
and other areas that we need done. And then the weedeaters,
we -- we've had a rash of problems with weedeaters dying,
and not being able to revive them. So --
JUDGE HENNEKE: Questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Could you put in a
couple of extra dollars and buy some light bulbs for our
court, for the honorable Commissioners Courtroom?
MR. HOLEKAMP: They are out again.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move the approval of
the substitution request for Hi11 Country Youth Exhibit
Center's Capital Outlay items as presented.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court
approve the substitution request for Hill Country Youth
Exhibition Center Capital Outlay items as presented.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I do have a quick
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question. Glenn, in the deleted items, the tiller.
MR. HOLEKAMP: Yes, sir?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Was that -- were you
going to use that for the arena floor?
MR. HOLEKAMP: Yeah -- yes, sir, it was for
the roping boxes and that sort of thing, where you just --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, so, what will you
do?
MR. HOLEKAMP: What we're doing is, we use
trustees to dig it up with picks.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, that's better.
Good. Yeah, I like that, okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question I had is on the
-- the shredder.
MR. HOLEKAMP: Yes, sir?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Seems like a high price.
MR. HOLEKAMP: That's a 7-footer bush-hog.
It does seem high. We -- we had a cheaper one this last --
Lwo years ago, I guess it is now, and it has constantly --
we're welding on it constantly to keep it together. So, we
we~ii_ to the heavier duty one to -- and that was the prices
that we received on the 7-footer. Now, I can -- before we
spend this money, I will go out and solicit several
different prices. This was just a -- we got -- one price
was 11 -- I mean $2,100, and the other price was $2,040, so
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Another thing you
might -- they've come out with, for the skid steer, some
shredder attachments that go on the front that, in park
settings, really work well. I mean, I think you need this
shredder as well, but just in the future, you may look at
that.
MR. HOLEKAMP: Yes, I --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Already looked at it?
MR. HOLEKAMP: It's nice and expensive.
So -- but yes, it would -- very, very good idea, yes.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries.
MR. HOLEKAMP: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We're going to skip to Item
Number 13, because the ensuing items involve public hearings
which are scheduled for 10 o'clock, so we'll go ahead. Item
Number 13 is consider and discuss approving and adopting the
Kerr County On-Site Sewage Facility program procedures for
real estate transfers and authorize County Judge to sign
same on a specified date. Commissioner Griffin.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. As the Court
will recall, we have a pending new court order on O.S.S.F.,
that it now includes a -- a Section 10, which would cover
real estate transfer inspections. However, the Court -- we
had decided that we would not sign that to implement it
until such time as we had the procedures that would be
followed in conducting those inspections. Over the last
several weeks, I have worked this draft. I think it answers
our questions. If it doesn't, I would remind the Court also
that this is our document. We don't have to get T.N.R.C.C.
approval. If we want to change it at any time in the
future, we can put it on the agenda to change it. I think
we'll probably work with the D.R., the Designated
Representative, in seeing how this works, and if there's
anything that needs to be added or modified that's in this
-- in these procedures, we would do that without having
to -- of course, then to modify our court order. It will
stay as it is.
I'm satisfied that this answers the mail,
that it does what we want it to do and provides enough
guidance to the D.R. and enough information to the public
that they can be handed this document and have a good idea
of what's going to occur. We don't completely tie the
D.R.'s hands, because, as we all know, every situation is a
little different, so that we've tried to put enough
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flexibility in -- into this that -- that those kind of
contingencies can be met, if there's a specific case, but
we've also tried to say we won't be any more invasive with
real estate transfer inspections than we have to be to
protect public health and not create nuisance -- or not let
nuisances continue to occur. So, I'm ready to make a
motion. There is one amendment -- I didn't catch this. I
was -- there is one slight amendment that I will make that
has to do with fees, but that's a technical amendment, and
that's the only thing I would change on this. And I'm ready
to make a motion whenever.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The typo -- oh, no,
this is your backup. But, I tell you, what I want to
commend you on is just this one sentence where the typo is,
and what grabbed my thoughts. "We don't want to go to
unnecessary extremes in the inspection process." To me --
to me, that lifted a cloud off my thinking. It made me feel
better about the whole thing. We don't want to qo to any
extremes to the taxpaying public. And, you need to add a --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And our D.R. is
committed to that, as well; that we're here to enforce state
I law, the T.N.R.C.C. rule, and our court order, and that
we're here in this process protecting public health and
seeing that nuisances aren't created, which is exactly --
and all the law allows us to do, as a matter of fact. We're
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not going to go beyond that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: What -- go ahead.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just had a couple
more little things, Jon, then I'll let you have it. In the
procedures, itself --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- here, these papers
right here. Now, they are the -- anyone that comes in for
transfer receives this information?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. That is -- now,
I haven't worked out all the details.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I understand.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, when they get
that, yes, I foresee that anyone would have this handed to
them, and it they've got questions, they can ask it of the
D.R.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And they're going to
be able to read the sentence, "The Kerr County Commissioners
Court strongly recommends that when acquiring property with
an O.S.S.F., the acquiring party should insist that the
system meets standards."
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We recommend. And, if
I were buying property --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Absolutely.
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age -- what we're saying here is we can't make you do that,
but if I'm acquiring property, I'm going to say, "You go out
there," and I'm going to say to the seller, for example, "I
want a fully licensed, all-up system that I'm not going to
have to fiddle with for the next 25 years."
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's the way it
should be. This should not be a government looking over
people's shoulders reminding them that they need to go get
their property inspected.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's right.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, I'm glad you put
that in there. I thank you for that.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Just a couple little
minor tweaks, Larry. On C.3, you've got a closed pren. I
think you may have intended it to be a parentheses. That
starts, "from paragraph 2) above," and closed pren's there.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: No, that's just the
designation; that's the form of that number 2 paragraph, is
2) .
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The other is on the
second page, D, the second paragraph.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Under D, yeah, there's
a little extra space there.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No, the line that
begins, "as-built drawings" on the second paragraph out,
"must be prepared to visually locate the tanks and all
elements" -- of the disposal?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: "Of." Yeah, there's a
typo there. All elements of the disposal system.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question I have is, what
happens if someone doesn't do this? I mean, what if someone
goes and sells their property and just -- I mean, either
through not -- knowledge-wise, knows that they should do it
and just don't do it, or just aren't aware of it, or -- I
mean, how is the -- a seller or a buyer to know this and get
this document"? How are they going to know to even ask for
it? What happens if they don't ask for it?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Probably a two- or
three-part answer here, but let me take a swing at it.
Number one is, we would hope that, through education, that
people -- and particularly real estate -- the real estate
broker community, who, by the way, are the ones who really
favor this kind of a process, we would hope that they would
become involved in it. Now, in some cases where you have a
private sale, that may or may not occur. I would hope that
we get great publicity for this through our media, which --
this is the way the process is going to work. Failing that,
and i£ someone doesn't do it, then the County's hands at
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least are clean. If someone acquires property and then,
immediately thereafter, has a failed system, for example, we
have said that that property should have been -- that
O.S.S.F, should have been inspected. And -- and, in that
case, it's a -- it's a caveat emptor; I mean, it's a buyer
beware. However, at the same time, there should have been
an inspection made, and so the -- that the -- it's obvious
that whoever owns that property, whoever -- at this point,
then, whoever wants to operate that system is going to have
to bear the expense of either repairing or replacing. So,
ttial's about as far as we can go, I think, with almost any
court order. Whatever that -- where there is a -- all we
cair do is say who is responsible. You know, what happens
is, somebody's going to have to repair or replace the
system.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I -- you know,
I'm pleased with this. 1 mean, I think it works. It does
the things I think we're trying to do to get real estate
transfers in the system inspected, but we're not using a
heavy-handed approach, and basically it's encouraging it to
be done.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Judge, I did not
include on today's agenda item -- Judge Henneke had made a
suggestion back when we discussed the last court order that
after this is implemented, that we will have a -- a workshop
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znvironment where people can come and ask questions of us
about how would this work in certain cases, if the real
estate community nas questions, if anyone in the process has
questions, and I think we ought to consider doing that.
But, the big hammer that we have here and what I like about
this approach is that we can change this document until we
get it right. You know, we can -- if there's something
we've missed, if there's something that we need to address,
we can do that, and we can do it as quickly as the next time
the Court can meet. So, it's not a thing that we're waiting
until wz get T.N.R.c.C. or anyone else involved in the
process. Now, let me also say, before going any farther,
that you notice that the agenda item says to sign on a
specified date, because the date this gets signed, the Judge
will also sigi, the court order that actually goes with it,
and that's the date that will become effective, so that we
have time to get the word out and so that there are no
questions about when it became effective for any legal or
other purposes. And, particularly for the enforcement of
the inspection rule, I'm going to propose in the -- in the
motion that we make that effective date -- the date that the
Judge signs this would be July the 1st. And, here and
forever more, everybody would know that it was July the lst
when this process or procedure was implemented.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Does this still go to
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: No. This is it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: On that point, on the
effective date, what has to be -- I mean, at what point in
the real estate sale process, like, if there's -- is it any
closing after that date?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's closing after
that date.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm just -- and I'm -- I
think closing is the date you'd have to tie it to. I'm just
wondering if that really isn't being a little bit difficult
to have -- if someone has a scheduled closing, I mean,
basically it's a 30-day period you're working in. If the
closing's already set for the first -- basically, up to 30
days from now, I think it's going to be a little bit
unreasonable for us -- you know, "You have to go and do this
inspection on your system."
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think what we should
do there is make it effective July the lst, but we can also
let our real estate community know if there are closings
that are scheduled that have already been scheduled -- not
scheduled after July the 1st, but if there are closings that
are already scheduled, we can handle those by -- either by
variance or by procedure. We can -- we can instruct our
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that. I don't see there's any reason that we have to be
hard and fast on that, because this is our rule.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I would suggest that we
consider saying that it's effective July 1st for all
transactions -- for all contracts entered into on or after
July 1st.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I really think, from what
Jonathan's pointing out, we're going to have a train wreck
here.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: 'Cause if someone's got a
closing on the 5th of July, and on the 1st of July we impose
a real estate inspection requirement, we're going to have
requests for variances out the kazoo. So, I would suggest
that we -- that we make it for contracts which are entered
into on or after July 1st. Mr. Brown, do you have a
comment?
MR. BROWN: Thank you, Judge Henneke. For
the record, Jim Brown, General Manager of Upper Guadalupe
River Authority. Stuart's had a death in his family and
he's not going to be able to be with us this morning. I
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real estate contracts entered into on or after July 1,
because right now, Stuart's scheduling is running two to two
and a half weeks out, so it's just that much activity going
on in the community. So, I mean, we could jump through some
hoops, but if we had a bunch of closings on July 1st, I
don't think we could serve the public.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; Good enough.
JUDGE HENNEKE: So, we might -- if we wanted
to tweak it even closer, we could say it would be effective
July lst for contracts -- effective July lst for all
contracts entered into on or after July 1st, but also
effective August lst for all transactions, regardless of the
date of contract. What that does is, if you've got somebody
who's got a 90-day closing, delayed close, you pick those
up, but you basically have a 30-day window in there which,
if your deal is already struck, you have 30 days to close
it. If you don't get it closed in 30 days, then you know 30
days in advance that you're going to have to have it
inspected.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's fine. August 1st
was the date that I had in my mind.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That would be D-day,
regardless of what's passed.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Exactly. Do you have the
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. In the -- in
Paragraph C -- no, I'm sorry, paragraph -- yes, Paragraph
C.l on Page 1, where it says "The transfer process
always begins," that sentence ends, "make application for
the transfer and paying the necessary fees as shown on the
attached schedule." And, I missed that, because I -- we
don't have a schedule attached to this. We have fees that
are currently set, and the whole schedule -- the whole
spectrum of fees for all of the services that we have, not
just -- not just real estate transfers, need to be looked at
separately. So, I would like to make a motion that we amend
that sentence to read, "The transfer process always begins
with the applicant or applicant's agent contacting the
offices of the Kerr County O.S.S.F. Designated
Representative (DR) to make application for transfer and
paying the necessary fees as set by the Kerr County
Commissioners Court." As set by the Kerr County
Commissioners Court.
DODGE HENNEKE: Do I have a second to that
motion?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
DODGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissi~uer
Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court
amend Paragraph C.l, final phrase, Lo delete "shown on the
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attached schedule," and to add "set by the Kerr County
Commissioners Court." Any questions or comments? If not,
all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
~! JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Judge, do I need a
motion to that -- take care of that typo?
JUDGE HENNEKE: No, I don't think so. Do I
have a motion to adopt the procedures?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. I'd like to make
a motion that the procedures be adopted, and -- and the
Judge authorized to sign same on July 1st, 2001, to be
effective for all contracts entered into after that date,
and for all transactions, this would become effective as of
August 1st, 2001.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissioner
Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin -- I mean
Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve the Kerr
County On-Site Sewage Facility program procedures for real
estate transfers, with an effective date of July 1st for all
contracts entered into on or after July 1st, and effective
date for all transactions on transfers of August 1st of the
year 2001, and authorize County Judge to sign same, as well
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as the amendment to the current O.S.S.F. order, on July lst.
Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor,
raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Well-done.
MR. BROWN: Zf I may just -- one more,
please? Again, for the record, Jim Brown. I'd like for the
Court and the public to know that this product that you've
just approved this morning is a product that wes developed
while Commissioner Griffin was traveling for two weeks, and
I suspect it was almost daily that the Commissioner and I
were e-mailing each other back and forth. So, while he was
out of the country traveling, the business of Kerr County
was -- was at hand and at heart, and today's -- today's
product is a byproduct of that commitment, and I think the
public needs to know that the Court commits itself to
various agendas and timelines, and the Court stays with it.
And that's a compliment.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. We appreciate
that.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Thacik you. Thank
goodness for e-mail.
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we'll take Item 14, which is consider and discuss approval
of the contract for construction management services for the
lower level construction for Juvenile Probation facilities.
Commissioner Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. Mr.
Longnecker? There he is.
MR. LONGNECKER: Keith Longnecker, for the
record. You have in front of you, I believe, a copy of the
contract that was prepared by the County Attorney, along
with a set of drawings. The drawings are the completed
preliminary drawings for the lower level of the courthouse,
which include the Juvenile Probation Department, the
Treasurer's offices, and the remodeled area for the County
Attorney and Hot Check Department. That's -- the large
sheet shows the entire lower level and the smaller sheets
are the individual departments for the -- and this pretty
well completes the preliminary that was assigned to me in
the contract, to develop the studies for the lower level.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any questions or comments
regarding --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I just want to know
how much more space is being added to the County Attorney`s
from what it is existing. I'm looking at --
MR. LONGNECKER: It adds another 270 square
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under the previous contract. We take that out and it adds
another 23 and a ha if feet, and then we're going to move the
present entrance door out several feet to include a seating
area, and that -- and then simply by rearranging, we can
make everything more efficient. And, this has already been
looked at, and I'm working with Helena in their department
down there, and she likes it very well. Tkie way it works is
the front part, the Hot Check Department, and the reception
area can all be easily covered by three or four different
people, and they can work well together. Then, on the other
hand, there's some privacy area in the files, in the copy
area, that they have not been able to have from people just
walking in, and they can't function sometimes because people
come in and they get tied up in conversations with people
from the public. So, they wanted a little more privacy in
that area, and we've accomplished that with this plan.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I have one other
question, Judge. Either Mr. Longnecker or Mr. Holekamp can
answer it. I see areas in the entire footprint here that
are labeled unassigned, but I don't see any areas -- I do
see one -- only one area labeled for storage. Is that
sufficient for storage?
MR. LONGNECKER
At this time. That's --
I've been talking to the folks that handle the Christmas
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their decorations/equipment into that storage area, and it's
more than large enough to handle all of their storage. And,
I'm sure Mr. Holekamp would be able to use it for other
items as well for storage, and at this point that's all
there is. The unassigned area -- if we need more storage,
it could be developed within unassigned areas.
DODGE HENNEKE: Questions or comments? Looks
]ike a good --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Looks good.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- good plan to me. The item
-- the item today is on the construction management
contract. Does anyone have any questions or comments on the
construction management services agreement which is in the
packet? This is -- this was actually presented to us about
a month ago, along with the architectural services contract.
Then we took action on the architectural services contract
at that time.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: My only question is of
Mr. Longnecker. Now, after today, if we get this document
approved, then we will really focus on Juvenile Probation's
office space --
MR. LONGNECKER: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- downstairs, and
we're not going to focus on anything else at this time.
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think that the actual construction will begin?
MR. LONGNECKER; Well, at present, I have the
construction documents for this area, for just the Juvenile
Probation, nearly complete. I'm waiting for Lux Engineering
to provide me with a mechanical and electrical plan.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: When will he have that
in?
MR. LONGNECKER: This week. It will be here
early this week, I hope.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Early this week.
MR. LONGNECKER: And I hope this week also to
apply to the City for a permit, for a building permit to go
ahead and -- and proceed with it. In the meantime, the area
can be -- it's full of all kinds of materials right now that
can be cleared out, and we can start the partition layout
even this week, Later this week. I've set up a desk --
Glenn Holekamp's been kind enough to allow me to have a dPSk
down in the Maintenance office, which is where I'll be
camped out for the project, and I'll be using that telephone
or my cell telephone, and perhaps I'll even want another
pager to get notified. Before, I presented this little
budget sheet here when we first went into the contract for
the architectural services. It's still pretty much the
same. I'm coming out with $60,018 as the total budget,
which is what we have been working with all along. I'd also
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like to be able to order the long-lead items, such as the
doors and door frames. They need to be here when the stud
partitions are put up, because they are installed at the
same time the studs for the partitions go in. And, that --
that will give us a chance to move through. Acid, of course,
how fast we go is going to depend entirely on how much help
we get from prisoners. We have --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: When are you going to
-- Lux is going to have his report in and you're going to
apply with the City early this week. When are you having a
meeting with Mr. Holekamp and the Sheriff's Office --
MR. LONGNECKER: We have a meeting --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- about having the
prisoners --
MR. LONGNECKER: As soon as we can get that.
This week, I hope. Isn't that right, Glenn?
MR. HOLEKAMP: We're making an attempt to get
it done. The Sheriff's going to be out of town, I think,
starting Wednesday, but the latest would be Monday morning.
Next Monday morning would be the latest.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Next Monday morning.
MR. LONGNECKER: Like I say, we have a
foreman, Mr. Hank Lacey, who was with Stoddard Construction
while he was here. He still wants to be here, and -- and
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with prisoners to see to it that the daily work is done.
And, then I will be here, of course, every day myself, but
not the full 8-hour day. It requires for somecne to be
working with them. I have several other questions here to
the -- to the Court, and that is on pricing. Bo we want to
work -- Glenn has offered to buy materials through purchase
orders through his Maintenance Department and keep separate
accounts on it, if that's all right with the Commission, or
1 can offer this to different suppliers, such as M.G.,
Foxworth, and T.J. Moore or McCoy's, to give us prices on
that. I intend to shop for all those materials myself,
and -- and see who can give us the best price on that in
order to stay within the budget. Now, is there a
requirement of any kind that I get separate prices or -- or
it at least three prices for these items? Nothing -- T don't
expect anything to be over $3,000 or $4,000 at a time.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Travis?
MR. LUCAS: You don't have to, you know, have
the competitive bidding, obviously, because you're not over
that $25,000 --
MR. LONGNECKER: That's right.
MR. LUCAS: -- limit.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But the total cost of the
project is over $25,000.
MR. LUCAS: Yeah, right.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: I think --
MR. LUCAS: You've got to look at it per
service, I guess.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think, you know, for
prudence and because it is the public's money, that you need
to get at least three quotes for anything that's over, you
know, $1,000.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Most of the companies --
I mean, lumber companies, you know, all your materials, they
prefer -- you probably get the best price if you can give --
if they're bidding everything at once, essentially,
MR. LONGNECKER: I could do that, In other
words, I've got to -- in other words, I'll offer the
sheetrock, the metal studs, the doors in one package, and
then maybe all of the door hardware and that sort of thing,
and then the carpet and the paint and the finish work in
another.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
MR. LONGNECKER: And work it out in that
manner. Then, of course, they could -- would you want them
to bill the County directly and let the County pay for it,
or do you want to take it through purchase orders with
Maintenance? Does it make a difference?
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I don't either.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Either way, it's going to
come to the Court for approval. Might be easier, from
Tommy's point of view, if they billed the County directly so
that we could keep --
MR. TOMLINSON: Be nice if they were
separate.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, keep the accounts
separate. I think that might be a better way to do it.
MR. LONGNECKER: I will be getting bids or
prices from different contractors. We need a licensed
electrician to handle the electrical work, as well as the
H.V.A.C. work, so I will be inviting -- hopefully, if I can
find three contractors that will give us a price, then
we'll -- we'll work those that way, and I would like to qet
started as soon as I have the contract.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I would Like that,
too. Lux and the City, Holekamp and the Sheriff. And, if
the Sheriff leaves Wednesday and you don't get to him until
Monday, that's -- that's another full week. You really need
to deal with the Sheriff on this thing, because there is
a --
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Because there is a --
you know, there's a problem, just certain types of prisoners
that can come over here and do work, and he has to be very
careful in his selection, and there's a process that he goes
through. So, I would -- I would want to urge you to get
with the -- and do that as quickly as possible so we can get
started, and not be way, way behind before you start. What
is your starting date to drive a nail?
MR. LONGNECKER: To drive a nail is just as
soon as the City issues a permit, which should be probably
next week.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. Thank you.
MR. LONGNECKER: Mm-hmm.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Anything else, Keith? If
not, we need to move on.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we approve
the agreement for construction management services, and
authorize the Kerr County Judge to sign it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Third.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Fourth.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Baldwin, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court
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and authorize County Judge to sign same. Any further
questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries.
MR. LONGNECKER: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. We need to go back and
pick up on public hearings. We'll take up item -- is anyone
here from AACOG?
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. We'll go to Item
Number 9, which is a public hearing concerning revision of
plat, Lots 97, 98, 100, 101, 117B, 117C, 117D, 119C, and
119D for Falling Waters, Precinct 3. At this time, we'll
recess this Kerr County Commissioners Court meeting and open
the public hearing on the revision of plat for Falling
Waters in Precinct 3.
(The regular Commissioners Court meeting was
closed at 10:03 a.m., and a public hearing
was held in open court, as follows:)
P U B L I C H E A R I N G
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is there any member of the
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public who would like to address the Court on the issue of
revision of plat, Lots 97, 98, 100, 101, 117B, 117C, 117D,
119C, and 119D, for Falling Waters, Precinct 3?
MS. PIEPER: This was hand-delivered to my
office prior to court starting this morning.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All right. The County Clerk
has handed me a letter. It is from Bryan J. Lindner,
L-i-n-d-n-e-r, DVM, and Dana Lindner. It says, We are lot
owners in the Falling Waters subdivision. We purchased a
lot from the former owner a few years ago. We decided not
to build and are trying to sell our lot. Mr. Crenwelye
bought the remaining lots from Mr. Musgrave and took over
the Falling Water office, resulting in a whole new set of
restrictions we never agreed to. We have our property
listed with a realtor, but Mr. Crenwelge does rr~t allow for
sale signs. He has also placed a stop sign at the gate that
requires all visitors to go through his office. This also
prevents anyone who visits Falling Waters from knowing our
property is for sale. The letter asks for objections to his
request to reconfigure his property lines. Our only
objection is that anything that will enhance this property
will only make it harder, for those of us with original
lots, to sell. We urge you to consider our request.
Is there any other public testimony regarding
the revision of plat for Falling Waters, Precinct 3? If
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not, we'll close the public hearing and go to Agenda Ttem
2.10, which is to consider and discuss approval of the final
revision of plat for Falling Waters, Precinct 3.
(The public hearing was concluded at 10:05
a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court
meeting was reopened.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Jonathan?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval of the
final revision of Lots 97, 98, 100, 101, 117B, 117C, 117D,
119C and 119D. I'm assuming this needs an order, Franklin.
MR. JOHNSTON: One of the loose ends on the
routing slip the County Clerk's office signed, it says, "We
still need a tax certificate for final approval." I'm
wondering if the County Clerk should not sign these until
they get all that paperwork here.
MS. PIEPER: We cannot file them in, by law,
without the tax certificate.
MR. JOHNSTON: Right. Can you wait until you
sign off on it, so -- we don't get a copy of that
certificate; we don't really know for sure if they do it or
not. They put a note here saying they do not have it.
MS. PIEPER: Yes, I can. If that's the
Court's pleasure, I can do it that way.
MR. JOHNSTON: Until they sign it, that means
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: In this case, can we
make -- can we go ahead and approve it, authorize signature
contingent upon the tax certificate being received?
MR. CRENWELGE: Just a matter of picking them
up in Kendall County. Just a matter of -- yeah.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second the motion.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve the
final revision of plat, Lots 97, 98, 100, 101, 11/S, 1170,
117 D, 119C, and 119D for Falling Water, Precinct 3, and
authorize County Judge to sign same upon receipt of tax
certificates for, I guess, Kerr County and Kendall County?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct.
MR. CRENWELGE: Yeah, two different appraisal
districts.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Any further questions
or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign,
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. I guess
we'll hold that mylar until we have the tax certificates,
and if you bring it to me, I'll sign it at that time. Next
we'll take up Item Number 11, which is a public hearing
considering the revision of plat, Lots 1, 17, 18, 19, 21,
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22, 44, and common areas for Cypress Springs Estates, Phase
I, in Precinct 4. We'll recess this meeting of the Kerr
County Commissioners Court and open the public hearing on
that revision.
(The regular Commissioners Court meeting was
closed at 10:07 a.m., and a public hearing
was held in open court, as follows:)
P U B L I C H E A R I N G
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is there anyone here in the
public who'd like to address the Court on the issue of
revision of plat, Lots 1, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 44, and common
area for Cypress Springs Estates, Phase I, in Precinct 4 of
Kerr County? Once again, is there any member of the public
who'd like to address the Court regarding the revision of
plat for Cypress Springs Estates, Phase I, Precinct 4?
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Seeing and hearing none, we
will close the public hearing and reconvene this meeting of
the Kerr County Commissioners Court.
(The public hearing was concluded at 10:08
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meeting was reopened.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: The item for consideration is
Item Number 12, consider and discuss the approval oI the
final revision of plat, Lots 1, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 44, and
common area for Cypress Springs Estates, Phase I, in
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Precinct 4. Commissioner Griffin?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. Again, this is a
little bit like the last one. It's been before the Court
several times. All of the checklists -- I know this is
signed off on. Everything in order, Franklin?
MR. JOHNSTON: Three little -- little items.
Same -- same tax certificate thing was signed off on the
checklist, that they did not have that.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Oh, okay.
MR. JOHNSTON: You notice in your packet on
the additional hookups for the water system --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
MR. JOHNSTON: -- we requested a letter from
T.N.R.C.C. stating how many hookups they actually had on
that subdivision. We got a letter from Aqua Source, not
from T.N.R.C.C. I don't know if you accept that in lieu of.
I think --
JUDGE HENNEKE: I believe the rules call for
a letter from T.N.R.C.C.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sure it does.
MR. JOHN ST ON: He really doesn't have that.
It's just written in on the side here.
MR. CRENWELGE: I can get that letter from
T.N.R.C.C. It just -- I'm trying to find it.
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letter from Security State Bank saying they're thinking
about issuing a Letter of Credit to build new roads, but we
actually haven't seen the Letter of Credit yet. I don't
think it's issued yet.
MR. CRENWELGE: Well, it was approved at the
loan committee, but the attorney in Kerrville was supposed
to have it prepared today, and I haven't seen it yet.
MR. JOHNSTON: So, those are the loose ends.
MR. CRENWELGE: So, if you will just approve
it subject to those --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: What can we do there?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Those are some fairly
substantial gaps. We've got to hold this until we have --
some of those things are taken care of.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. I hate to put
it off again, but we've got to have the T.N.R.C.C. letter.
MR. JOHNSTON: I think we have a net of four
more hookups in Phase I.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Does the letter exist
from T.N.R.C.C.?
MR. CRENWELGE: I called Aqua Source. I
didn't have in it in my file, and I asked Aqua Source if
they had it. They faxed this to me last week, and I didn't
know I needed the actual T.N.R.C.C. letter. I thought this
was fine until Franklin passed the list to me this morning.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd say we agree to hold
it, but if you can get all three of those things, we'll be
here late today, at least till probably 3 o'clock. If you
can run them down by 3:00, we can act this afternoon.
MR. CRENWELGE: Okay. I'll try and get it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, there is a
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go get the tax certificates.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The T.N.R.C.C. is just
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MR. CRENWELGE: Yeah, it's a form letter in
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They can fax it over
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Should be able to fax
it.
MR. CRENWELGE: I should find it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Or e-mail.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: They can scan it in
and e-mail it.
MR, CRENWELGE: I can fax you the T.N.R.C.C.
letter.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We can approve it
pending delivery of the tax certificates, just like we did
the last one, but the T.N.R.C.C. and the Letter of Credit
things, those are in black letters; we've got to have them
to approve it in the first place. So, if the Letter of
Credit -- do you think the Letter of Credit is available
today?
MR. CRENWELGE: They're supposed to be
draftinq it today. The law firm in Kerrville says they'll
be drafting trie Letter of Credit. It was approved in loan
committee last Thursday.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: If it's not here, we can
do it next meeting.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But let's see if we
could defer it, and just make sure we don't adjourn
without -- when we get through this morning, and get it back
to us as quick as you can. If we can -- we're still here
this afternoon --
MR. CRENWELGE: Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- we can do it today.
MR. CRENWELGE: Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRlr'FIN: On these two items.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All right. Thank you. I see
the Iolks from AACOG have arrived, so we'll go back to Item
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2.7 and have a public hearing to finalize the adoption of
the Closed Landfill Inventory for Kerr County. At this
time, we will recess this meeting of the Kerr County
Commissioners Court and open a public hearing on the issue
of the Closed Landfill Inventory for Kerr County.
(The regular Commissioners Court meeting was
closed at 10:12 a.m., and a public hearing
was held in open court, as follows:)
P U B L I C H E A R I N G
MS. ZANNARAS: Good morning.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Good morning.
MS. ZANNARAS: As we stated last week at the
public meeting, we have been looking over --
JODGE HENNEKE: Would you give your name for
the court reporter, please?
MS. ZANNARAS: I'm sorry. I'm Georgia
Zannaras, and I'm the Solid Waste Coordinator from Alamo
Area Council of Governments, and we have been charged by the
State, under state statute, to complete a study that was
started by Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission on
the closed landfill sites located in Kerr County. We held a
public meeting last week. We made the one change that was
brought to our attention, and we had not received any
further new -- new data. So, what we're going to ask this
morning is for you all to accept this as the inventory
for -- for Kerr County, and it will then become a part of
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the regional plan, the new regional plan that will be
adopted when it's completed next spring.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's --
MS. ZANNARAS: I drew up a resolution that
you may look at.
JUDGE HENNEKE: This is a public hearing.
MS. ZANNARAS: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is there any member of the
public who'd like to address the Court on the issue of the
landfill inventory?
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Once again, is there any
member of the public who'd like to address the Court on the
issue of the Closed Landfill Inventory? If not, we'll close
the public hearing and reconvene the meeting of the Kerr
County Commissioners Court.
(The public hearing was concluded at 10:14
a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court
meeting was reopened.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Do you have a resolution for
us?
MS. ZANNARAS: Yes, I have a resolution.
It's a sample that we drew up that says that -- the final --
concluding, Be it resolved that Kerr County Commissioners
Court accepts the inventory as mandated by the Texas
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Legislature and as conducted and compiled by Southwest Texas
State University and the Alamo Area Council of Governments
as complete to the best and most current data and
information available and made known. It's a long
resolution. If you'd like for me to read it all --
JUDGE HENNEKE: No, we do not. Does anyone
have any questions or comments regarding the Closed Landfill
Inventory? I will say, for the record, that Chuck Brecher,
who was previously the Solid Waste enforcement officer, did
most of the work. He actually went out and visited each of
the sites, participated in the public meeting that we had on
the 12th, and was the one who has been most instrumental in
identifying closed solid waste landfill sites. Could 1 have
the resolution? Thank you. Do I have a motion to adopt the
resolution?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Are you satisfied with
the resolution?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Yes.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second,
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I haven't seen it.
MS. SOVIL: Judge, do we have a copy of the
inventory to file with our records?
MS. ZANNARAS: We will provide you with a
copy to file for your records, and you you'll also get final
copies after -- as part of the adopted plan.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: This was the pre-copy
that -- yeah, this is the one that we --
JUDGE HENNEKE: Those materials are the ones
that have been circulated and the ones that were reviewed
during the public hearing.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I gust went through
those somewhere.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Doesn't say much. I
mean, there's one sentence that just disclaims it all,
because it says no claims are made as to accuracy or
completeness of the data. I mean, but it -- we're required
by the legislative law, I guess.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Jon, this is AACOG;
this is government. It doesn't have to make sense.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think we had a motion from
Commissioner Griffin. Did we have a second?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court
approve the resolution accepting the inventory of closed
landfill sites in Kerr County. Any further questions or
comments?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And authorize County
Judge --
JUDGE HENNEKE: Authorize County Judge to
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sign same. Any further questions or comments? If not, all
in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Thank you.
Commissioner Baldwin, do you have some of your people here
now? Do you want to --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is this it? Where is
the president of the board?
AUDIENCE: He's at work. He couldn't get
off.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Which ones are
mine?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Two and four. At this time,
we'll qo back and reconsider Item Number 2, consider and
discuss the outstanding bill for contract labor incurred by
Kerr County Child Services Board.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. You
remember about a month ago, this bill came up in our regular
set of bills, and Hawk-eye Henneke spotted it and questioned
it, so we held it out, and he and I visited and decided that
we just simply wouldn't -- wouldn't pay it; didn't feel like
that it was a part of our commitment to the Child Services
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some cutback in state employees over there, and their
casework, and -- and they feel like that the County should
pay for that salary. As Judge Henneke stated, and 1 agree,
that that is not the -- that is not the function for
Commissioners Court and the tax money that we -- that we
expend toward that program.	We	had -	- Thea and	the
Auditor's office and myself	met	with	a couple of	the board
members several months ago and made an agreement -- made a
list of the things that -- that we thought the County should
pay for, and Fred listed them out earlier. There's some --
some medical bills, after all the federal and state programs
are exhausted, that maybe we might pick up something there.
Caps and gowns, birthday gifts, a bus ticket home, you know,
those kinds of things that are directly related to the
child, itself. And this, in my opinion, has -- we're payitiy
a state employee's salary here, in my opinion, but we'll
certainly let the Welfare Board argue that case, if you'd
like. And, that's where we are. They've requested to bring
the bill back and let's take another look at it.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Morning.
MS. COWELL: Thank you for letting me speak.
I'm Sherry Cowell. I'm an ex-employee with C.P.S. of 22
years standing; I just retired in April. And, if you
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haven't approved our new members, hopefully I'm a new member
of the Child Services Board.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's next.
MS. COWELL: I don't know whether I've -- I'm
approved or not, but that's why I'm here. As an employee
with C.P.S, for 23 years, I worked with numerous child
service boards. I've worked with the three county boards
here, Kendall, Kerr, and Gillespie, for several years. I've
been here 18 years doing child services with C.P.S. In
other counties, child service boards do help with state --
with those kind of expenses. And, in Nueces County, in
fact, one whole unit of child welfare workers are funded by
the County. In another county I worked -- and they also
fund supplies for that unit. In another county that I've
worked with from time to time, on a special project like
this one that we approved, the County did -- the County
Welfare Board did pay for those limited expenses.
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three clerical staff and could not -- and could not fill
those positions. What was happening was, the Child Welfare
workers were having to take some of their time to do
clerical duties already. For example, you cannot get into
our office without someone being there, because it's a
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previous problems we had with some very hostile clients.
So, we have to have somebody up there all the time opening
that door for people and monitoring traffic, et cetera, and
Child Welfare workers were already having to do that, taking
time away from their caseloads and their children and the
people that they serve. And we just felt like, with their
other duties, that had to happen; we had to have some cases
taken care of, and that had to happen.
And then we either -- we either -- they came
to us -- to the board asking for help, because if the board
wouldn't approve this short-term project, then Child Welfare
workers were going to have to step up to the plate again and
spend more hours taking care of those things, because there
was nobody else to do it. So, that's why the board thought
that they, in good conscience, could approve that expense,
because our manual says that we can. So, that's why we
approved that. I say "they" approved the expense; I wasn't
a board member at that time, but I was at the meeting. And
we're talking about $226.
COMMISSZONER GRIFFIN: Question. Is there
any reason that you know of -- and perhaps you may, because
you say you were at the meeting. Is there any reason the
board elected not to come to Commissioners Court to get the
expenditure approved beforehand? Because that -- see,
that's the way we have to work, is that we -- we budget --
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or if we haven't budgeted for something, we have to approve
that expenditure, not after the fact, but before the fact.
MS. COWELL: And I understand that, but the
reason the board didn't do that, they didn't know that they
had to. They thought they had the -- the authority to
approve an expenditure like that as an extension, because we
-- because of the budget that we have. They didn't realize
that they had to, that they needed to. So, that's another
reason I wanted to address the Commissioners Court today, is
we really need a clarification on how the process works,
'cause obviously we're not clear about that.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, the short answer
to that is that if there is any expenditure the County i~
being asked to fund, if it wasn't done in the budget
process, it has to be done by amendment to the budget before
the expenditure is made.
MS. COWELL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And that's kind of
things we can do, notwithstanding the merits of this
particular incident -- incidence -- circumstance. But, that
didn't occur here, so now we're in this ex post facto
approval. I`m not sure -- can we do that legally, Travis?
MR. LUCAS: I think that you stated the law
perfectly on that. And also, you know, with the Family
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question, but it leaves the discretion to y'all, 'cause
there's no doubt -- I know that some counties fund in that
manner, but there are equally, I think, a lot of counties
that --
MS. COWELL: That don't.
MR. LUCAS: -- that don't.
MS. COWELL: Right.
MR. LUCAS: And that target more things for
traditional -- you know, birthday gifts.
MS. COWELL: Right.
MR. LUCAS: Bus passes, whatever we have.
Bus tickets, things like that. And --
MS. COWELL: Well, I think that the problem
was, like I said, we didn't realize that we needed to do
that. So, its my understanding, then -- and please correct
me if I'm wrong -- then the things that y'all have outlined
on your list, those are things that we can approve without
coming to the Court for individual -- for -- okay. So, if
it's not on the list, then if we have something else that we
feel like is -- is worthy, we need to come to you first?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Correct.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's the short
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MS. COWELL: Okay. Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALllWIN: That's basically it.
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MS. COWELL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's a state employee.
I'm not in favor of paying a state employee.
MS. COWELL: Well, except that she's not a
state employee. She wasn't hired by the state to do this.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I know, but it's
filling in for what the state should be doing, is -- is the
key.
MS. COWELL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Does the board have
any -- does the board have any budget dollars that it can
reprogram to pay the $78?
MS. COWELL: Well, actually, it's $226.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: $226. Does the board
have funds -- state funds or otherwise that can be --
MS. COWELL: We have come up with the funds
to get her paid, because we made the commitment, so we made
sure she got paid.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Where is the $226?
All I see is $78.
MS. COWELL: Because that was the first bill
that was submitted, and then she came and did some --
some -- finished up that project.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, she did more?
MS. COWELL: Yes, sir.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think this is one of
those cases where -- this is where we are. I mean, we -- I
don't think we can do it, even if we desperately wanted to.
I'm just throwing that out for thought. I'm not sure we can
do it if we --
JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, I think -- I think we
are in a position where we're not going to be able to take
action on this.
MS. COWELL: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Y'all understand the process
now a bit better. If you think you're going to need funds
for clerical services and in future budgets, you need to
include them in the beginning and let us take a look at
them. Unless they're authorized, you'll have to come back.
MS. COWELL: This was an emergency situation,
'cause the State didn't know that they were in such a
funding crunch either. Could I ask another question? And
this may not be the appropriate time. I also want -- since
we're talking about Child Welfare Board business, I also
want to ask about the question of jury fees,
JUDGE HENNEKE: That was taken up earlier,
MS. COWELL: I'm sorry, I missed that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We've already addressed that
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MS. COWELL: Thank you.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Thank you, Sherry.
Next item is Item Number 4, consider and discuss approving
board members for the Child Welfare Services Board.
Provided was a list of the recommended board members. Does
anyone have any questions or comments regarding this list'
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have some comments.
I have some nice things to say about them, as -- as we all
do. We serve on boards and committees all across this --
throughout Kerr County, and all of them are needed and
great -- great boards and committees, but I have -- I have
never seen a board of directors that does more for the
bottom line of our community than this board of directors.
They're never recognized. They're not high profile. You
don't hear about the Child Welfare Services Board. You
never hear about them. You wouldn't even know about them if
you weren't serving as a Commissioner, but they do things
that no one else does, and that's take care of a special
group of young people. And, I`11 give you an example.
Several years ago, I was the Santa Claus for the Christmas
party. And --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: There is a
resemblance.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Ho, ho, ho. And, I
was a witness to some interesting young people. And, to
give you an example, one was a 13-year-old girl that was
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unable to speak because of some bad things that had happened
in her life. These people take care of that kind of human
being, so that we don't have to. They do it, and they do it
day after day after day. And, I just wanted to say I thank
you guys for doing that, and -- and I appreciate it.
Here's the list of the Board of Directors
that the president has provided me, and I'd like to read
them, if I may, just real quick. Bobby Pickens, Dwight
Sadler, Renate Harris, Birqit Woodrum, Alice McDaniel, Wendy
Danford, Dawn Goldthorn, Randall Fernette, Edith Javens,
Sharon Thompson, Shirley Davis, Gradene Wright, Michaelle
Wheeler, Rex Emerson, and Sherry Coldwell. And, I'd like to
offer this list as the Board of Directors for the
Commissioners Court to approve for the year.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Third.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Baldwin, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court
approve the Board of Directors of Child Welfare Services
Board, as presented to the Court. Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.}
JUDGE HENNEKE: A11 opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank yuu all.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, guys.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Appreciate you. At this
time, let's take a recess, reconvene at 10:45.
(Recess taken from 10:31 a.m. to 10:45 a.m.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. It's quarter till
11:00. We'll reconvene the special session of the Kerr
County Commissioners Court. Next item for consideration is
Item Number 15, consider and discuss setting a public
hearing on proposed redistricting plan for Kerr County and
for Commissioners' precincts for -- should be 4 o'clock p.m.
on Monday, July 23, Year 2001. We just need to move forward
with getting our plan done so we can get it off to tYie
Department of Justice. We had a workshop on it. Only two
of the members of the Court were able to attend because it
was called kind of at the last minute, and there were some
practical suggestions made, particularly by the Tax
Assessor's office and County Clerk's, regarding election
precincts and ultimately Commissioners' precincts. Anybody
have any questions or comments about scheduling a public
hearing?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Scheduling a public
hearing certainly needs to be done, but I -- the -- by
chance, on the date of the last workshop, I was in Austin
and spent the afternoon with Bob Heath going through the
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process with them in some detail, and I mentioned it, I
think, three times in our meeting. I think you thought T
was joking, trying to get across -- but I was serious; what
they really need to do is load up their computer and come
down here, spend a day with us. I think we can solve all
the problems and really get a lot done in a relatively short
period of time. I worked -- there's a couple areas in my
precinct where they -- one where we touched Commissioner
Baldwin's precinct over in the eastern part of his acid
western part of my precinct that I recommended an
adjustment, and there's a couple -- quite a few between
Commissioner Williams and myself, adjusting that, and we
were able to get a whole lot done. I have copies of those
changes, and they're kind of saved in a separate file, if
everyone agrees to it. But, it really is helpful and I'm
encouraged, you know. Commissioners, especially if they
have time -- if we can't get them to come down here -- it
may be a difficulty in the software and computer, you know,
size that they may need to have down here. I don't know how
all that works.
MS. RECTOR: Jonathan, we're going to Austin
next week to meet with them, and we would be more than happy
to take any information up there with us trial might -- might
help with the boundaries.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: When are you going,
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MS. RECTOR: Next Thursday.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Not this coming
Thursday?
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The following Thursday.
JUDGE HENNEKE
No, not this coming Thursday.
The 5th of July is when
you're --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I might be interested
in joining you on that trip. Commissioner Letz and I talked
again this morning about a couple areas in the Precinct 2
and 3 area that might require some adjustment, but I can't
go until after I've had a talk and looked at some maps that
J.P. 2 has that she wants me to look at.
MS. RECTOR: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But, save me a seat.
I may want to qo with you.
MS. RECTOR: Okay, that'll be fine.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just, you know, how they
do it up there, they -- you basically sit down with their
programmer and go through the computer -- they'll pull it
up. Every time you say, "How about if we move the census
block though this precinct?" they'll move it, and it
recalculates every precinct instantly so you can see if
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you're going through the process. And they're, in my mind,
incredibly patient. I mean, they put up with me for two
hours, and I was moving here and moving there and jumping
around and doing this, and they never yelled at me. They
even offered me a Coke, you know.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Didn't kick you out.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Didn't kick you out.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyway, it's really a
great opportunity to go up there and work with it, and it is
a -- a time where we can really make a lot of changes. And,
there are a lot of problem areas in the county, and they
just -- they don't -- they are doing their best, but they
just don't know where people live and exactly where the
streets go and how people move around, and it really takes
us to be up there in person to help.
MS. RECTOR: That's why we felt ~t would be
beneficial for us to go up there, since we're so familiar
with all the streets and highways.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just -- my final word on
this is that I've been -- and my whole goal is to try to
keep neighborhoods together, communities together, and use
major roads, if at all possible, as boundaries. There's --
the biggest problem area that I have I wasn't able to fix,
because it is a difficult one, is there's power lines that
are currently used as boundaries between Precinct 2 and 3.
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And, if you look at the map, there's actually three sets of
power lines out there. I have no idea which lines is the
boundary. If we could use roads, it sure does make it a lot
simpler. And, then also make sure that roads aren't cut,
the end of a road; put it in one precinct so they don't have
to drive all the way out and back around. I mean, and it's
not easy. They certainly -- I don't know if it's a
requirement or not, but they certainly want to make sure --
or try to make sure that we follow census blocks, because
there's a calculation; makes it a lot easier, But I don't
know if you have to do that, actually. I mean, there is --
we got approval between Buster's and Larry's out there in
the Turtle Creek area. That was -- I think we split a block
out there, and it was approved by the Justice Department, so
I think it can be done to not use census blocks, but it
makes it more difficult.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's true.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So, we're -- we still
need to set this.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: To keep to our schedule, to
get our preclearance, we're going to have to have a public
hearing on the 23rd of July.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is this the --
COMMISSIONER. GRIFFIN: And, it's 4 o'clock?
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DODGE HENNEKE: Right, 4 o'clock.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, the hearing will
be to present the final plan?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Correct. And then we will
take action on it immediately thereafter, if we're -- we're
of a mind to. So, with that, they can go ahead and prepare
the submission for the Justice Department.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are y'all saying
4 o'clock?
JUDGE HENNEKE: 4 o'clock. 4 o'clock, not --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Not like what's
written on here, 2 o'clock.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Right. It should be 4:00.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It's correct on the
list, but not on the -- I'll so move the public healing on
the proposed redistricting plan for Kerr County --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: -- at 9 o'clock
Monday, July 23rd.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Curt set
a public hearing on the proposed redistricting plan for Kerr
County for the Commissioners' precincts at 4 o'clock vii
Monday, July 23rd, Year 2001. Any further questions or
comments? Yes, Jannett?
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MS. PIEPER: Who's supposed to put it in the
newspaper for the public hearing?
JUDGE HENNEKE: We do.
MS. PIEPER: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Judge, if I might
inject a question, did we -- when we had the County Engineer
here, did we --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, we didn't.
COMMISSIONER GRIE'r'IN: -- talk about that --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We sure did not. I'm
sorry. The -- well, we can go back and just approve the
thing, and then I can get with them privately and find out
what I want to know, unless y'all have some major questions?
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think you expressed all of
our concerns about --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- you know, some fairly
significant shifts in budget.
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talking about that, there was another one later on, but it
totals up to $12,000. That is a lot of money to have left
over from crew salaries.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Must have been short --
either they hired at a lower level or they were -- went
without a person for a while.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: If you recall, I think
back in the budget process, when we set that budget, the
idea was for Road and Bridge -- is they were going t~ put
together another crew. And, I think what happened was --
was that they couldn't get a whole crew together until later
in the budget year, I mean, it didn't happen October 1st,
and it probably happened sometime later, because they didn't
hire people until they knew they could have a whole crew.
So, they created a new crew, and I think that's probably
what the problem is.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And that's probably
true, except for the part that they take the money out of
that, but were giving it to part-time salaries. And, that
just kind of disturbed me just a little bit.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, acid that's the
question that -- that second question is, what's the
part-time work tor?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are we shifting the
policy some or what'?
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Excess of overtime,
as well.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The other thing, you
asked about a flood. We did have a flood, a big flood. It
was in October -- or, I mean, November. And, that's -- and
it could be they ran -- they used the money then. I don't
know if that's the reason.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I heard it rained a
couple days ago. I missed it somewhere.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Didn't rain around here.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it could be that he
used a lot more then. Maybe that's why he's low on those
items; I don't know.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Do we want to go ahead
and approve it? I think that's my question.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Probably so. But, you
know -- I don't know.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, we're --
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I want to geL my
questions answered.
MR. TOMLINSON: I do know that -- that we
have to -- there's overtime to pay. I know that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
MR. TOMLINSON: So, we have to -- the money
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Let's go back then and call
up Budget Amendment Request Number I for Road and Bridge
Department, which is the agenda item we've been discussing,
for purposes of the record. At this time, would anyone like
to move approval of that budget amendment, reluctantly?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we
approve.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissioner
Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, that the Court
approve, with reservations, Budget Amendment Request Number
1 from the Road and Bridge Department. Any further
questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay.
Moving right along, the next item is Item Number 16, which
is consider and discuss a workshop on the form of volunteer
fire department contract. This is something Commissioner
Griffin and I have discussed. If y'all may recall, there's
been some question raised regarding the form of volunteer
fire department contracts, particularly from one anonymous
volunteer fire department out in Precinct 4.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't have any
problems with mine. It's only at that end.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I don't know whether we want
to have a workshop or not. We can put it on the agenda
simply so we can discuss it, whether we want to bring back
the form volunteer fire department contract, approve it as
we did -- just did for the State Hospital contracts, or
whether we want to set a forum for volunteer fire
departments to come in and talk about the contract, or we
could have a talk about funding mechanisms as well if we
wanted to. What's the desire of the Court?
~ COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think it would be
good to bring the representatives of the fire companies in
and talk about it. There are some significant changes, and
one of them, I know, particularly affects the one out iii Elm
Pass, and it's going change the method in which they do
business and fund their insurance. And, it also covers the
issue I raised when they were here about not having life
insurance to cover the death -- accidental death of a fire
person. So, I think it would be important to bring them in
and talk about it.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Also, Travis, I think
you and I talked about this some time ago. I think we could
probably simplify the form of the contract considerably.
It's -- I think it was built like a dirt dauber's hest, sort
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of; got added to, and sometimes you need to zero-base it and
start over again.
MR. LUCAS: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And I think maybe what
-- and maybe we don't -- I know we've got to get this done
before budget time, but I'm thinking maybe we need to take a
swing at simplifying the contract form, addressing some of
the issues that have been raised.
MR. LUCAS: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Some of them that have
been raised.
MR. LUCAS: David has been working on that,
and I think also been in discussions with people like, you
know, Dutch and those fellows out at Hunt and Mountain Home
and --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And, I think when we
have that, we can go ahead and perhaps set a date for the
workshop, but I think we need the new form to present so we
don't go through the old form and just rehash old issues.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I -- in order to mitigate
some of the criticism, I've already sent out the old form of
the contract to each of the volunteer fire departments and
said, "If you have any problems regarding the form, please
let us know." So, the old form is already out there. I
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: What I'm saying is
that if we've got -- we've got some comments, and what I'm
saying is, at the workshop, we would present -- that would
be the time that we would present the new form, a modified
form, and hopefully simplified to some degree, and say,
"Here's what we're working to now," based on the comments
that we've heard and -- and a review of the whole thing,
anyway. 'Cause I know that -- that -- that David Motley was
working on that since last year, and I don't know where it
stands today, but -- but it was -- he was working on the
form of the contract. So, I would tie it to that, if we
can.
MR. TOMLINSON: A lot of the language in that
old contract was to meet -- a lot of it was to satisfy the
fire departments, themselves, especially the part that was
related to the County's payment or reimbursement to the fire
department. And, the reason we`re -- we require -- it's
just not a -- the reason we require them to submit bills to
us is that a large percent of -- of the volunteer fire
department's funding comes from private sources.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
MR. TOMLINSON: And a lot of the Lire
departments do not want the County to audit those funds,
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was their business. So, in order to get around that, we
would require them to submit bills and we would pay the
bills, and not to pay -- not to pay a lump sum. If we paid
a lump sum, then I would think we'd have to audit --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
MR. TOMLINSON: -- their --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I know pari of the
comment has been, at least from the Hunt Fire Department,
for example, that -- that we -- we have access t~ all of
their financial records, and -- which essentially is an
audit function, right?
MR. TOMLINSON: Well, we -- that -- I
don't -- we require them to submit the bills, and that's our
audit function, is to know what -- what the expenditure's
for.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. That's the
reason I'm saying --
MR. TOMLINSON: There are departments out
there that don't want us to have privy to their -- to the
expenditures that they -- that they make with moneys that
are from private sources.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I understand. So --
but, for example, on Page 1 of the current form of the
contract, it says that the Department shall keep financial
records according to generally accepted accounting
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principles, and all books and records of the department
shall be open for inspection during normal business hours to
any member of the public, the Kerr County Auditor, and sucYi
persons as may be given such authority by the County,
including members of the Department Advisory Board.
Question: Is that required, or isn't it? I don't know.
But that's the reason I'm saying we need to review t}ie
current form. If we've got something in there like that,
and this other procedure that you're talking about where we
just pay the bills, where that's not necessary to be in the
contract, then we ought to take it out.
MR. TOMLINSON: Right. I just --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: To satisfy it.
MR. TOMLINSON: I just remember that there
was some discussion about -- about that part of it.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right, okay.
MS. SOVIL: I think the language Ton¢uy`s
talking about is in the old contract. It wasn't this one.
MR. TOMLINSON: Oh, it's not?
MS. SOVIL: No, it's the old contract where
they had to submit their bills for reimbursement.
MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We -- this contract, we
have access to all their financial records.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Clearly.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I just think we need
to take a good look at that, review it, get it the way we
want, present that in a workshop to the fire departments,
and say, "How's this one?"
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Isn't there -- I mean, it
would seem to me that it would be simpler if we could just
have them sign, like, an affidavit that the funds are used
for -- list some of the items that they need to use the
funds on, then submit that back to us when they request
payment.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think the way it
works now, that we don't give them lump sum payments. We're
not doing that --
MR. TOMLINSON: No.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- today. We pay
their bill. If they submit an insurance bill, for example,
we pay it, until they get -- or whatever it is, up to their
limit. So, S mean, that's the way it's working now. We're
not paying them the lump sum at the first of the fiscal
year, anythinq of that sort.
MR. TOMLINSON: That's the way we pay them
now.
MS. SOVIL: But, it could, the way the
contract's written.
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MR. TOMLINSON: It could.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It could, the way the
contract's written, but we're not doing that. That's what
I'm saying.
JUDGE HENNEKE: But that's at their choice.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: What's that?
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's their choice.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Except in one
department, which will go unnamed, they would like to have
it and then have us go away and never be seen again. You
know, that -- they just want the money.
JUDGE HENNEKE: The discussion we've had
before --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So that won't work,
either.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- is that we're providing
public funds for the operation of their enterprise. Public
has a right to know the money -- how the money's spent and
how that enterprise acquires the money. And, if they don't
want to be subject to that level of scrutiny, they don't
have to accept the public funds, which is what one
department has chosen --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- to do. And, I feel fairly
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I agree.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That money needs to be
accounted for, and the enterprise needs to be accountable.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Besides that, they're
a 501(c)(3).
MR. LUCAS: Exactly.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: A 501(c){3) has to
have its records available to any member of the public. I
mean, that's not even an issue. I mean, Lhat thing -- that
issue, you can forget about, as far as I'm concerned. But,
I still think that the contract form is more complicated
than it needs to be, this current one, and that we can
simplify it. That`s all I'm saying.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Anyone have a date for a
workshop, if that's the consensus of the Court?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I agree, I don't see the
point of having a workshop until we have a new form, really,
and I don't know when that's going to be. I think it's good
to do it, but I think we should continue through the budget
process the way we are and tell the fire departments we're
working on a new form and we'll have a workshop when it's
ready. I think it's premature.
COMMISSIONER GRIr'FIN: I think that's fair.
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's fine.
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and we'll just try to get a form out that the members of the
Court can look at, and -- including me.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think our goal should
be to have it, obviously, in place prior to October 1st.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. We'll just bring that
back at such time as we have a new form of contract. That's
fine. Item 17, consider and discuss the imposition of a
burn ban in Kerr County. I placed this on the agenda mainly
so we can just talk about where we are and some other
concerns regarding burns. Thea pulled up this morning the
Keech-Byrum Drought Index as of June 21st, which shows us
one category below the recommended burn ban category. We're
in the light green, and the yellow is what is -- is
recommended for burn ban. However, that doesn't always
reflect the conditions in the county, so I think -- this is
on here so we can talk about it, discuss it, take any action
if we'd like to, or wait until next meeting, which is July
6th. Or, of course, if we have to, we can deal with it on
an emergency basis. Any thoughts or comments?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I had two inches of rain
over the weekend.
JUDGE HENNEKE: You must have left the
sprinkler system on.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We had a great rain.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He must have a
pipeline straight up.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think that we are in a
situation where we probably should do a burn ban, as much as
I hate these things, as everyone knows. The -- especially
with the 4th of July coming up, I think we'd be -- I don't
know how we -- I forget how we address fireworks during the
burn ban, but it is extremely dry and there's a fair amount
of fuel on the ground in a lot of parts of the county.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And it's drying out
very quickly, too, because the humidity is low,
temperature's high.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Another thing, and this
is just recently. Seems like the weather pattern may
change. We've got very strong winds for the summer. That
makes it even worse from a fire fighting standpoint.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I would -- I would
like -- based on what I've gotten from the fire departments
in my precinct, I think we probably ought to impose a burn
ban. And, if there's a way you can suspend it -- I mean, if
you did have a great rain in your precinct or something, you
can -- you can suspend it under our procedure, if necessary,
but I think it's time.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Since we --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Particularly with 4th
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Since we don't have the
Forest Service -- through the Keech-Byrum Index, we don't
have that situation yet, we would have to do one under our
authority, which includes the way we've done it in the past.
The way the court orders read, the ability of any
Commissioner to lift the ban for a stated period of time, if
that's the --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I couldn't hear
everything you said. It can be precinct by precinct?
JUDGE HENNEKE: The ban is county-wide, but
it can be lifted by a Commissioner in any one precinct.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see.
JUDGE HENNEKE: For a specific period of
time, the way we did it --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- earlier last year.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Last time.
JUDGE HENNEKE: So, if that's the -- the form
of order is the first one in the packet.
COMMISSIONER GR1E'FIN: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Which includes, in the second
order paragraph, the ability of the Commissioner to suspend
the order for a specified period. And, you all probably
still have the forms that you used when we did this before.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right. And I talked
with Shaun, by the way. We're going to try to get that
portion of the -- it's on my personal web site right now.
We got those pages, and people do look at them, but we'll
try to get that switched over as quickly as we can to the
County web site, so it's also online. I'll make the motion
that we impose a 90-day burn ban, effective immediately.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court impose
a burn ban in Kerr County, effective immediately, for 90
days from the date of adoption. Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay. Next
item is Item Number 18, consider and discuss approval of the
budget workshop schedule contained in your packets. If we
approve the schedule, we'll ask the Court to give the Judge
the authority to move any hearings around or accommodate the
needs of department heads or elected officials.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sheriff Hierholzer,
before he had to leave, passed that to me, but he has asked
for such a change because of his absence.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. That's just what we'xe
talking about.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I move that we approve
the schedule and give the Judge the authority to make
adjustments to it as necessary.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second that motion.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court
approve the budget workshop schedule as presented acid give
to the County Judge the authority to revise the schedule as
necessary to accommodate the needs of the department heads
or elected officials. Any further questions or comments?
If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: I will send this schedule to
the elected officials and department heads later tomorrow
and ask them to get back to me right away if they have any
changes. Final item for this morning is consider and
discuss the approval of the T.C.D.P. contract, Number
721075, and authorize the County Judge to sign the same.
This is the contract related to the half-a-million-dollar
grant from the Department for sewer services at Kerrville
South. I'm handing out to each of the members of the Court
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a copy of the first page of the memo from David Motley
regarding this contract, which I received just prior to
court. Mr. Motley's memo expresses some concern about the
indemnity provision of the contract. I don't disagree with
his admonition, but I probably can tell you that we're riot
going to get the grant without signing a contract with the
indemnity in it, So, I think it's kind of an esoteric legal
issue. So --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, it says here on
Page 4, and I've -- I've turned to Page 4, Now what?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, that reference
is incorrect. I read it also.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This reference has to
do with Section 10 under Independent Contractor a~ the
bottom of Paqe 4, I believe, and goes over onto Page 5.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's the only place
I saw it. What is the mechanism, Judge, for setting up this
sinking fund?
JUDGE HENNEKE: It's a budget item. You
place tax money into it. It sits there in case it's
necessary.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, given -- given
that even though we sign the contract now and Legin the --
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the discussions which you and I had scheduled for this week
with U.G.R.A. for interlocal agreement, the possibility of
work actually beginning before the budget year -- new budget
year is rather remote. So, that would mean if we have to do
a sinking fund, we have plenty of time in which to think
about how to do that in the new budget year. Is that
correct?
JUDGE HENNEKE: Yes. Travis, do you have any
comments on the indemnity issue?
MR. LUCAS: Yes. This is the first I've ever
seen of the contract or anything like that, but have we
tried to contact their legal department, whoever drafted
this, and, you know, just explain that --
JUDGE HENNEKE: It does not appear that we
have, from David's memo.
MR. LUCAS: Okay. A lot of times -- and I've
seen in some of the state contracts we've entered into with
-- you know, with the State, obviously, we'll see this, and,
you know, they just kind of, you know, blow iL off. So, a
Lot of times their lawyers -- their legal division already
know this, that by county government law, constitutional
law, we can't adhere to this unless we have the sinking fund
or float bonds or things like that. But, a lot of times
I've just brought this up -- we've brought this up and, you
know, just remind them. They go, "Oh, yeah, that's right,"
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and just strike it.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What was the last
thing you said?
MR. LUCAS: They'll strike it. Their
attorneys will say, "Oh, yeah, that's right. Let's just
strike that out." I don't know if we -- you have -- I just
don't know where we are in the process of this. Do you
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JODGE HENNEKE: I'm sure we haven't contacted
them. My -- my suggestion -- request would be to go ahead
and authorize approval of the contract and signature,
subject to the discussion with the Department on this
indemnity issue,
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Williams, that tYie Court
approve the T.C.D.P. contract, Number 721075, and authorize
County Judge to sign same, subject to discussions with Texas
Department of Housing and Community Affairs regarding the
indemnity provision. Any further questions or comments? If
not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. I'm told by
Mr. Lucas that we have a brief Executive Session. After the
Executive Session, we will recess until this afternoon, when
we have a workshop, and we also may have that plat come back
before us. So, at this time, the Kerr County Commissioners
Court will go into Executive Session for consultation with
regard to pending litigation.
(The open session was closed at 11:16 a.m.,
and an Executive Session was held, the
transcript of which is contained in a
separate document.)
(Commissioners Court was in recess from
approximately 11:20 a.m. until 2 p.m.,
when a workshop was held, the transcript of
which is contained in a separate document.)
(Workshop concluded at 3:12 p.m.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: We'll now reconvene the
regular special session of the Kerr County Commissioners
Court. We will return to agenda item -- Agenda Item 12,
consider and discuss approval of final revision of plat,
Lots 1, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 44, and the common areas for
Cypress Springs Estates, Phase I, in Precinct 4.
Commissioner Griffin?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. I have in my
possession a Letter of Credit, the T.N.R.C.C. report, and
both tax certificates for the -- for the plat revision
that's -- that's in question, and I would move that we
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approve the revision of plat as submitted.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve
the final revision of plat, Lots 1, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 44,
and common areas for Cypress Springs Estates, Phase 1,
Precinct 4.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And authorize County
Judge to sign same.
JUDGE HENNEKE: And authorize County Judge to
sign same, thank you. Any further questions or comments?
If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. If we have
no other business, the Kerr County special Commissioners
Court meeting is adjourned.
(Commissioners Court adjourned at 3:19 p.m.)
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STATE OF TEXAS
COONTY OF KERR
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as
County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County,
Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 28th day of June, 2001.
JANNETT PIE PER, Kerr County Clerk
Kathy Bani Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
ORDER N0. c7078
CLRIMS RND RCCOUNTS
On this the 85th day of June 8~D~1, came to 6e considered by
the Court various Commissioners' precincts, which said Claims
and Accounts are:
10-General for^ 8100,046.60, 11-Jury for^ 8898.0, 13-Road A
Rr-idge Rdditional Registration Fee for• 88,887.57, 15- Road 8
Bridge for 850,711.68, 88-Flood Control for- 8661.78,
28-Juvenile State Rid Fund for• 8175.00, 50-Indigent Health
Care of 8874.49, E4-Lake Ingr^am Estate Road District Rond
F'r^ocess for 886, 9,8.64, 70-F'er^m anent Impr^ovement far 8898.50,
,.-. 76-Juvenile Detention Facility for^ 88,886.89, B3-State Funded
- 816th Distr^ict Attor^ney for^ 889.88, 86-State Funded - 816th
District F'r^a bat ion fOY^ 81,:,SS.oS, B7-State Funded - Community
Corrections for^ 83,864.44, Total Cash required for• RLL FIINDS
is 8190,596.70.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Lets, seconded by
Commissioner Baldwin, the Co~ar^t unanimously approved by a vote
of 4-0-0, payment of said Recounts as r^e commended by the
County Ruditor•.

ORDER N0. c7Q~7G
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN COUNTY JRIL
AND THE SHERIFF'S DEF'RRTMENT
On this the c5th day of June 201, upon motion made 6y
Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@, to transfer
$1,8c3.87 from Line Item No. 1~-Slc-lic Overtime to Line Item
No. 1Q~-Sic-?„_,3 F'risoner• Medical and to transfer- 5,;,4c1.34 from
Line Item No. 1Q~-S6~-41~ Radio Equipment to Line Item No.
1~-SEG-4S4 Vehicle Repair R Maintenance in the County Jail and
in the Sheriff's Department.
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ORDER ND. E7Q~74
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN
JUSTICE DF F'EACE F'CT. #3
On this the c5th day of J~_ine EQ~~1, upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the
Co~.irt unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer
~40~.00 from Line Item No. 10-457-309 Postage to Line Item No.
10-457-108 Fart-time Salary in Justice of the F'eace F'ct. #3.
ORDER N0. 27075
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN NON DEF'ARTMENTRL
AND COUNTY SF'DNSORED ACTIVITY
AND THE ROAD RND BRIDGE DEF~RRTMENT
On this the 25th day of J~_~ne 2001, upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•ansfer^
810,217.00 fr^om Line Item No, i0-660-471 KCRD Contract,
and to tr^ansfer• 89,727.50 from Line Item No. 10-409-571
Contingency to Line Item No. 10-409-204 Worker^s Compensation
and to transfer 82,739.66 fr^om Line Item No. 15-611-111 Cr^ew
Salaries and to tr^ansfer 87,425.34 from Lien Item No.
10-611-570 Capitai Outlay to Line Item No. 15-611-204 Workers
Compensation in Non Depar^t mental, Co~_inty Sponsored Rctivity
and Road and Bridge Depar^tment.

ORDER N0. E7Z~7E
RF'PRDVRL OF MOMTHI._Y REPORTS
Dn this c5th day of June cDVJl, capon motion made 6y
Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, to accept the
following r•epor•ts and direct that they be filed with the
County Clerk for fut~.tre audit:
Jannett Pieper, County Clerk
General - May c~01 Report
Trust - May 20D1 Report
`~ Vance Elliot - Justice of F'eace F'ct. #1
May 201 Report
Linda Uecker - District Clerk
May ~0~1 Report
ORDER N0. E7Q~77
RF'F'ROVRL OF INTERLOCRL CONTRRCT
FOR N.ERRVILLE STRTE HOSF~ITAL HERRINGS
RND SETTING FEES
On this the ~Sth day of Ji_tne, ~a0i upon motion made
by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin,
the Co~_ir•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, the
interlocal contract for N.er•rville State Hospital Hearing and
setting of fees therein provided and a~.~thor•ize Co~_inty Judge to
sign same.
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ORDER N0. '27Q~78
RF'F'ROVRL OF SUBSTITUTIONS ON THE
CAPITAL OUTCRY SCHEDULE FOR THE
HILL COUNTRY YOUTH EXHIBIT CENTER
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On this the 25th day of June, 2~~1 ~.ipon motion made
by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin,
the Court unanimously appr-oved 6y a vote of 4-0-@, the
substitutions on the capital outlay sched~_ile for the Hill
Country Yo~_ith Exhibit Center as follows:
ITEMS TO DELETE
F'ORTRPLE WELDER 82154. Q~0
TILLER FOR TRACTOR 8i4Q~~D.4~0
WATER TANF: FDR TRUCI: $^cOJDD.00
TOTRL 855541. ~~
ITEM REQUESTED
HERVY DUTY TRRILER 42810.Q~0
ROTRRY CUTTER (SHREDDER)$2040.00
2 WEEDERTERS W/PLRDES ~ 700.Na
TOTRL L5554~. ~~
ORDER N0. c707'3
pF'F'ROVAL OF N.ERR CDUNTY
ON-BYTE SEWAGE FACILITY PROGRAM
PROCEDURES RS RMENDED
On this the 5th day of June ~~0i, ixpon motion made by
Commissioner Gr^iffin, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the
Co+_+r^t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, the Ker^r
County On-Site Sewage Facility Pr~oyr^am F'rocedur^es and to
amend F'aragr^ah C. 1, final phr^ase, to delete "shown on the
attached schedule, " and to add "set by the Ker^r^ Co+.~nty
Commissioners Court.
ORDER N0. X7080
ADOF'TIN6 RULES OF
KERR COUNTY, TEXAS FOR
ON-SITE SEWRGE FACILITIES'
On this the S5th day of J~_~ne 201, upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the
Co~_ir•t unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-@, to adopt the Y.er•r
County On-Site Sewage Facility (OSSF7 F'r•ogr•am F'r•ocedur•es
for• real estate tr•ansfer•s, with an effective date of J~_ily 1,
~~01 far all contracts entered into on or' after J~_ily 1, 2Q~S1,
and effective date for• all transactions on transfers of August
1, 2Q~01 and a~.ithor•ize the County Judge to sign same, as well
^ as the amendment to the current 0. S. S. F. or•der•.
ORDER N0. X7001
AP'P'ROVAL OF CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION
MANRGEMENT SERVICES
FOR LOWER LEVEL CONSTRUCTION OF JUVENILE P'ROBRTION
FRCILITIES
On this the CSth day of June EQ~01, ~.ipon motion made by
Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@, the contract
for construction management services for Lower Level
Construction of Juvenile probation Facilities and a~athor•ize
the County Judge to sign same.
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ORDER N0. c708:_
AF'F'ROVRL OF FINRL REVISION OF FREEING WATER
LOTS 97, 98, i00, 101, 1178, 117C, 117D, 119C AND 119D
On this the c5th day of J~_~ne X001, i_ipon motion made by
Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Co~_ir^t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, the final r^evision
of Falling We+ter•s lots '37, 9f3, 100, i01, 117B, 117C, 119C, and
i19D in Fir^ecinct ~ contingent on Tax Certificate being filed.
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ORDER N0. c7083
RF'F'ROVRL OF FINRL RDOF'TION OF CLOSED LRNDFILL INVENTORY
FOR KERR COUNTY
On this the E5th day of J~.ine, ~Q~Q~1 upon motion made 6y
Commissioner Gr-iffin, seconded by Commissioner Paldwin, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-Q, the final
adoption of closed Landfill Inventory for Kerr County and
authorize County Judge to sign resol~_ttion accepting the
inventory.
ORDER M0. 27@84
AP'P'ROVAL OF RORRD MEMPERS FOR THE
CHILD WELFRRE SERVICES BOARD
On this the 25th day of J~_ine 2@@1, upon motion made 6y
Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-@-@, the board
members for the Child Welfare Services Board are as follows:
Robby Pickens, President
Dwight Sadler
Renate Harris
Birgit Woodr~_tm
Alice McDaniel
Wendy Danford
Dawn Goldthorn
Randell Fernett
.^ Edith Javens
Sharon Thompson
Shirley Davis
Gradene Weight
Michelle Wright
Rex Emerson
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ORDER N0. c7085
RF'PROVAL TO SET F'UPLIC HEARING
DN P'ROP'OSED REDISTRICTING PLAN FOR KERR COUNTY
On this the c5th day of June, 201 i_ipon motion made by
Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to set p~_iblic
hearing on proposed redistricting plan for• N,err• County for•
Commissioners Precincts for 4:00 F'. N. on Monday, ,7 ~_ily c,,,
c001.
ORDER N0. c74~86
PUDGET RMENDMENT IN RORD RND FRIDGE DEF'RRTMENT
On this the cSth day of June, X001 capon motion made by
Commissioner Paldwin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Court
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-@-0, to transfer
54,610.0 from Line Item No. 15-611-111 Crew Salaries with
Si,."_'98.0Q to Line Item No. 15-611-1Q~8 F'ar't-Time Salaries and
with 53,:,ic.~Q~ to Line Item Na. 15-611-iic Overtime in the
Road and Pr•idge Department.
ORDER N0, c7~87
RF'F'ROVRL OF BURN BRN
FOR N,ERR COUNTY
On this the ESth day of June, '~@O1 upon motion made by
Comrtiissioner• Gr•iFfin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Co~ar•t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, of the Burn Ban for'
f<err• County, Texas for• 90 days to be effective immediately.
ORDER N0. 'c7088
RpF'ROVAL OF BUDGET WORI:SHCP SCHEDULE
On this the ~Sth day of J~_~ne, c001 upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded 6y Commissioner- Baldwin, the
Court unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, of Budget
Workshop Schedule.
ORDER NO. E7~89
Af-'PROVAL OF TEXRS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT F'ROORAM
NO. 7c1075
On this the ESth day of J~_ine E001, ~.~pon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@, of the Texas
Community Development Program No. 721Q~75 between Kerr County
and Texas Department of Ho~_tsi.ng and Commi_inity Affairs and
authorize the Co~_inty Ji_idge to sign same subject to discuss
with the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs.
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AG'PROVRL OF FINAL REVISION OF PLRT
FOR CYPRESS SPRINGS ESTATES GHRSE I
LOTS 1, i7, 18, i'3, 21, 22, 44
RND COMMON RREA
On this the 25th day of June 2x01 ~_ipon motion made by
Cnmmissioner^ Gr^iffin, seconded by Commissinner^ Letz, the Court
unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, the final r^evision
plat of Cy pr^ess Spr^ings Estates F'hase I in Precinct 4 and
author^ize County J~_idge to sign same.