r.. 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT Special Session Monday, August 27, 2001 6:30 p.m. Commissioners' Courtroom Kerr County Courthouse Kerrville, Texas PRESENT: FREDERICK L. HENNEKE, Kerr County Judge H.A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 LARRY GRIFFIN, Commissioner Pct. 4 z 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ,-. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ~-. 25 T N (l F X August 27, 2001 --- Visitor's Input .................................. --- Commissioners Comments ........................... .... . 1.1 Pay Bills ........~ 7~~'?4?..... ............. 1.2 Budget Amendments ~.~.~.~J.~~.c~.~~~.~ ............. 1 .3 Late Bills ........4?.~c~4~y. -. ~.7.~~~ ............ . 1.9 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports ..~.7;~1.o....... PAGE 3 10 13 14 30 34 2.1 Approve form of volunteer fire contracts, authorize County Judge to sign same .... ~.~.a~.~.... 35 2.2 Letter of Credit, Falling Water Subdivision c~ 7s~~~ 41 2.3 Final Revision of Plat, Lots 176, 177, 178, & 179 of Spicer Ranch III .......~ ~~~~........... 44 2.4 Approve name changes for privatel maintained roads in Precincts 1 & 4 .......~.~~~.~"........... 45 2.5 Advertisement for Notice of Public Hearing to eliminate duplicate road names, set ublic ~ ~~......... hearing date for same ..........r~ 7. 46 2.6 Step and grade for first assistant auditor oZ7~l.la. 48 2.7 Reclassification of job title or increase in step/grade for senior accounting clerk ..~7~1.~... 55 2.8 Request from J. P.4 to purchase capital outla ~ Q ~°?~ '. item & transfer money to proper line item . 66 2.9 Discuss enforcement of Manufactured Home Rental Community ordinance as it applies to Wayne Barney property ..........................:~ 7 ~1~........ 73 2.10 Approve resolution to make formal application for membership in West Texas County Judges and Commissioners Association .........??.~°t.`?0........ 78 2.11 Establish Water Conservation Program as outlined, incorporate Rainwater Harvesting Incentive program as Phase I .... ~ts~.'a55~.~i~a...... 80 2.12 Ratify request for contested case hearing in San Marcos River Foundation application for Guadalupe River water rights ...... ~7 dal........ 92 2.13 Approve order authorizing publication of Notice of Intention to Issue Kerr County, Texas, ............... Certificates of Obligation "~~°~~'~...... 106 --- Adjourned ....................................... 118 --- Reporter's Certificate .......................... 119 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 6:30 p.m., a special meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court: P R O C E E D I N G S JUDGE HENNEKE: Good evening, everyone. It's 6:30 on Monday, August 27th, Year 2001. We will call to order this regular special session of the Kerr County Commissioners Court. Commissioner Baldwin, I believe you have the honors this evening. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I do. If y'all would stand and pray with me, please, and then when we finish, we'll do the pledge of allegiance. (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you, Commissioner. At this time, any citizen wishing to address the Court on an item not listed on the regular agenda may come forth and do so. Any citizens who would like to address the Court on an item not listed on the regular agenda? Yes, sir? MR. LAFLAIR: Good evening. My name is IIrent Laflair. This is addressed to Commissioner Griffin. Sir, I live out on Voges Lane off of Blue Ridge. I've been out there for three months now and have not been able to get any mail delivered. I've gone to the Postmaster. He said he 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 has spoken to you on this matter, something to the effect that the mailboxes out there aren't are on private property and all the mailboxes have to be moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'm not aware -- the Post Office Department, you say? MR. LAFLAIR: Yes, sir. Mr. Hanson told me this himself. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: MR. LAFLAIR: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: the -- Is this on Blue Ridge? Franklin, you met with MR. JOHNSTON: I talked to someone. I think the property owner was talking about -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think they worked out an accommodation for the location of all those mailboxes. I think that's been done. MR. JOHNSTON: I don't know if it's done, but I think they worked out a deal to move them to the County right-of-way. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes, they did. MR. LAFLAIR: The problem is, nobody seems to know where the right-of-way is there out there. I've been out there going on four months now; I have not gotten any mail. My mail is in limbo between the Ingram post office and the Kerrville post office. And, basically, what I'm 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 being told in a roundabout manner is, if you really want your mail, you'll rent a P.O. box so that you know you're getting it. Well, as far as I'm concerned, that's federal extortion. I should be able to get my mail. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think we have an accommodation on the -- on the positioning of all of those mailboxes, have we not? MR. JOHNSTON: That's what I've been told, yeah. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. And 911, I think -- MR. SANDLIN: I had a conversation with him on some other things -- with Mr. Hanson last Thursday, and my understanding was one of the -- and I'm not -- I don't know who all the property owners are, but one -- the question where the mailbox was, he was going to move them to accommodate the mail carrier. MR. LAFLAIR: Nothing's been done yet. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. MR. LAFLAIR: Nothing has been done yet. And in the meantime, I can't get my mail. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Probably need to close the loop with the Yost Office Department, just make sure that they know where your box is going to be. MR. LAFLAIR: They won't even issue me a 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 rural route address out there. I talked to Mr. Hanson about 4:30 this afternoon on the phone and I asked him if he could come in here himself tonight, with me, and he said no, that he had other plans. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I'll talk to him and see what we can work out. MR. LAFLAIR: Thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure. JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else who would like to address the Commission on an item not on the agenda? Yes, Ms. Pruneda? MS. PRUNEDA: Thank you. Good evening. Thank you for your service. I'm here to request some clarification of the septic rules. I applied last week to transfer a license, and received from U.G.R.A. the process which I should go by, and paid my $150 fee. And, I had a few questions, and U.G.R.A. faxed me a piece of paper. I believe, Commissioner Griffin, you've read that now, or I read part of it to you. They -- they explained to me that you authorized -- that you authored this piece of information, but I noticed that it was not signed by the Judge, and I brought it up here to the Judge Friday morning. He said he, I don't believe, was familiar with this. Is that correct, Judge Henneke? JUDGE HENNEKE: The piece of paper you showed 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 me, I'd never seen before. MS. PRUNEDA: Correct, it had not been signed by you. And, after further questioning U.G.R.A., they said, well, this was their interpretation of an item that you authored, and so we've been back and forth several times. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. MS. PRUNEDA: My question is, who has the authority and what is the rule? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The rule, in the case of the property that you're talking about, will be handled as a licensed property, since it was licensed in '95. And if Stuart Barron, the Designated Representative, has not called you back yet, I'm sure he will -- MS. PRUNEDA: He did. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- call you back tomorrow, 'cause I just talked to him. MS. PRUNEDA: He was most accommodating. The -- what I couldn't seem to get around was, I was told by U.G.R.A. -- I mean, she was very helpful and very informative, but I couldn't get -- she told me that the septic was licensed in '85. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: No, licensed in '95, apparently. MS. PRUNEDA: Right. That's my system. And that's what I told her, and she said no, the original 8 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 license was '85. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The original license was, or the original installation or something. MS. PRUNEDA: And if there was a significant improvement to the system since that time... yada, yada, yada, and if it had been pumped. And I have my manifest and all of the paperwork that they required, but I still paid my $150 fee, and then I had to schedule a pumper and pay his service fee, which will happen at closing on Friday, to come out. And Mr. Barron did not require that -- the system to be pumped, so I'm still paying another fee on top of the $150 fee. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I just talked with Stuart Barron this afternoon. MS. PRUNEDA: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And I think we had that all worked out, but I will close the loop again. MS. PRUNEDA: I know you're going to follow up on it. It's just, as a consumer -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right. MS. PRUNEDA: -- it's confusing, and if there's not a -- if there's not a definite rule that has been signed or mandated -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: There is. MS. PRUNEDA: There is? Where is that rule? 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 2_` COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That rule is in a court order that -- we can get you a copy of that. MS. PRUNEDA: Okay. So, then, this -- this form -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's a further interpretation of those orders. MS. PRUNEDA: And that's what Stuart explained to me. He said, you know, I think this is what it says, but it's not been signed. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, it's not going to be signed. And I explained that to him. JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. This is not an agenda item; we can't take any action on this. MS. PRUNEDA: I understand. JUDGE HENNEKE: What I need is -- is for you all to work this out outside of here. MS. PRUNEDA: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I'll follow up on it with Stuart again, but it should be taken care of now. At least that's what I'm told. M5. PRUNEDA: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'll have to find out in the morning. MS. PRUNEDA: I'll call Mr. -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But I talked to him 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 l~ 2C 21 2~ 2; 2~ 2` about 4:30 this afternoon. MS. PRUNEDA: And, like I said, it's not just for myself. It's for anyone else that has to go through -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I understand. MS. PRUNEDA: -- this. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. Anyone else who -- any citizen who would like to address the Court on an item not listed on the regular agenda? Do we have anyone else who would like to address the Court on an item not listed on the regular agenda? Seeing none, we'll turn to the Commissioners' comments. Let's start with Commissioner Baldwin. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. Tivy Antlers. Tivy football had a big scrimmage last Saturday, did real well against Cedar Park. This Thursday, we go to Killeen, Texas. I don't know why they don't schedule something up around Dallas so we can travel a little bit. But, Thursday they'll go to Killeen, and Killeen's a big-time school, high-ranked, so we'll find out this Thursday what kind of Tivy Antlers we have. But, they looked really good last Saturday, and we're real proud of them. I wanted to remind everyone that September the lst, most of the new legislative laws go into effect, and there's all kinds; alcohol containers in a vehicle, kids under 12 11 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 riding in the rear of a pickup, and the fines quadruple on some of those things. So, you know, if you're wondering about some of it, you may want to get on the Internet and find out about it, 'cause they go into effect September 1, most of them do. How dedicated this Commissioners Court is. The Dallas Cowboys are playing right now. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You call what they do playing? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, which brings up my next point. I'd heard on the way over here that the NFL has offered Fort Worth a team, and they turned it down; said no, if they got one, Dallas would want one. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's all my comments for tonight, Judge. Thank you. JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Williams? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's pretty hard to top. I'm not going Lo even try to top it, except to say we've been blessed with rain throughout Precinct 2, and the burn ban's off, for those who didn't have their box of matches in their hip pocket early this morning. And, before we meet and see you again, we will have the traditional Labor Day holiday. I wish each and every -- each of you a safe and sane holiday. 12 1 2 3 4 5 ~ 6 ~ 7 ` 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I was going to say, they looked like -- like smoke signals going out in Precinct 4 this morning. One thing I did -- would like to bring up is that I was by the 911 office, and as a member of the 911 liaison of the Court, I was presented with some video tapes for the Court, and will leave those here. This is of the Sheppard Rees fire there that was put together. Also, there's a couple copies here for the media, if you'd like to have them. 'That's all. JUDGE HENNEKE: Okav. The burn ban has been lifted, but I would remind everyone that it has been lifted on a precinct-by-precinct basis, and I believe for a definitive time. The burn ban is in effect county-wide through September 25th; however, it has been lifted in each precinct by the Commissioner, but it has not been lifted totally, county-wide. So, if you're going to burn, be sure you check on the web site or with the burn ban hotline to make sure that the burn ban has not been reimposed in your particular precinct. The other thing I'll note is that we were blessed today with a visit from Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Anthony Principi from Washington. He was in San 13 1 ~... 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .-. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Antonio to address the American Legion National Convention, came to Kerrville specifically for the purpose of getting a briefing on the Kerrville V.A. facility, and also to tour the facility. It was my pleasure to go out and be part of the group that conducted a briefing, and I'm very hopeful that, by virtue of his attention to Kerrville, that that means we will continue to get the attention of Washington and continue to enjoy the funding and support which we need in order to keep that facility alive and a viable part of our community. With that, let's pay some bills. Tommy? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Judge, if I might just mention, I think in all four precincts, the burn ban expires at 7 o'clock Wednesday morning, unless further extended, so we might want to pass that word to everybody, too. JUDGE HENNEKE: Does anyone have any questions or comments about the bills as presented by the Auditor? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Move we pay the bills. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve payment of the bills as recommended and presented by the Auditor. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1S 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget Amendment Number 1 relates to Maintenance. MR. TOMLINSON: This is a request from Glenn Holekamp to transfer $700 from Leasehold Improvements to the Telephone line item in his department. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that we approve Budget Amendment Request Number 1 for Maintenance. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 2 relates to J.Y. Number 4. MR. TOMLINSON: This amendment is a result of a need to pay utilities for Precinct 4 Justice of the Peace. We're transferring $1,000 from Major Repairs in the Maintenance Department to Utilities in the J.P. 4 office. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 2 for J.P. Number 4. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 3 is for Juvenile Probation. MR. TOMLINSON: We have a -- we have a bill for $578.48. No funds in Alternate Housing in the Juvenile Probation budget. The last two amendments we've done, we've taken that money from the Radio line item in the Sheriff's Office. JUDGE HENNEKE: Tommy, is there any excess in the salary line item under that budget, since we had a vacancy for three months? MR. TOMLINSON: No, not -- not enough to -- to amount to anything. JUDGE HENNEKE: We don't have $578 in that one? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, we might have had $578, but I didn't look at it that close. JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. It seems to me like we 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 should have possibly enough to cover that, since we were down a Juvenile Probation Officer for three months. MR. TOMLINSON: We may have already used it, but I'm not sure. I'll have to look. COMMISSIONER LETZ: First choice would be to take it out of that salary item. If not, take it out of the Radio. JUDGE HENNEKE: Is that a motion? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. DODGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 3 for Juvenile Probation, with the funds to come first from any excess salary funds for the Juvenile Probation Department, and second from the Radio Project in the Sheriff's budget. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 4 is also from J.P. Number 4. MR. TOMLINSON: It's Number 1. JUDGE HENNEKE: Excuse me, Number 1. Sorry, 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 Bill. MR. TOMLINSON: Vance Elliott. His request is to transfer $10.10 from his Postage line item to Part-Time Salaries. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that we approve Budget Amendment Request Number 4 for J.P. Number 1. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 5 is for the Ag Extension Service. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. We have a need to transfer funds into the Extension Service line item for utilities, and we're asking to transfer $1,280.83 from Major Repairs from the Ag Barn to the Utilities line item in the Extension Service. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner LeLz, that we approve 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Budget Amendment Request Number 5 for the Agricultural Extension Service. Tommy, is that enough money to go the rest of the fiscal year? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, it is. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 6 is for the 198th District Court. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This is for the Jury Fund for the 198th court. We have -- we have a request to transfer $50 from Miscellaneous to the Court Interpreter's line item in that Jury Fund. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 6 for the 198th District Court. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 7 is for the 216th District Court. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This is also for the Jury Fund, and it's for the 216th court. The request is to transfer $107.25 from Board for Jurors, $82.50 into the Court Interpreters line item, and $22.75 into Operating Supplies. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commis sioner Griffin , second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 7 for the 216th District Court. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, sam e sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 8 is for the Law Library. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. I have a bill for $880.50. It's for West -- West Group, West Law charges that we need to pay out of surplus funds in the Law Library. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Do we have to declare an -- 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Emergency. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, I think we do. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Does that come out of that special fund of theirs? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, it does. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's just that it's not budgeted. Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 8 for the Law Library, declare an emergency, and take the funds from the line item specifically for County Law Library. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, I know Linda isn't here, but do we have any control over when they send these things? JUDGE HENNEKE: I agree with you, Commissioner. We've had one of these every meeting for about the last six meetings. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, when they come, I can't really refuse them, but -- I guess I could refuse them, but the -- it seems that there would be something from West Publishing which could give us some kind of idea ahead of time what they're going to send. But -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Frustration noted. Any 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 z1 further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. Motion carries. Item Number 9, again, is for the 216th District Court. MR. TOMLINSON: This is a -- a request from the 216th court to transfer $6,547.50 from Court-Appointed Attorneys in -- out of the 198th court into Court-Appointed Attorneys line item in the 216th court. Also, there is a need to transfer $40,230.89 into Special Trials in the 198th court -- I mean in the 216th court. We have $25,741.23 in Special Trials in the 198th court, leaving a balance of $19,989.66 that needs to come from some other source. We -- we have the choice of declaring an emergency and increasing the budget, or taking it out of -- also from the Radio line item. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Motion to take it from the Radio line item. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is this for the Reichenau trial? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve i 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 22 Budget Amendment Request Number 9 for the 216th District Court, and we transfer $25,741.23 from the Radio Equipment -- Radio Project line item in the Sheriff's Department to Special Trials -- MR. TOMLINSON: No, 14 thousand -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Fourteen thousand? MR. TOMLINSON: $14,989.66. JUDGE HENNEKE: Transfer $14,489.66 from the Radio Project to Special Trials. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question on that, Tommy. Is that the -- kind of the final tally on that trial, what it cost the County? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, I know we have a bill from Kendall County, for sure. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That we haven't received yet? MR. TOMLINSON: We have received. So, I -- I hope that's it. I think that's it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is almost $50,000. MR. TOMLINSON: Very expensive, a hung jury. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So the public is aware what these trials cost the County. JUDGE HENNEKE: Absolutely. Budget Amendment Request number 10 is for County Court at Law. MR. TOMLINSON: I have a bill for $1,365 for court-appointed attorneys for County Court at Law. The balance in this fund is -- I mean, in that account is zero. We're requesting a transfer of $1,365 from the Court-Appointed Attorneys line item out of County Court to transfer into County Court at Law. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 10 for County Court at Law. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) DODGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) DODGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 11 is for the District Clerk. MR. TOMLINSON: This request is from the District Clerk to transfer enough funds out of Photocopy Expense, which will be $500 for the remainder of the year 29 1 b 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 I1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 for office supplies. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 11 for the District Clerk. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget Amendment Request Number 12 is for the Road and Bridge Department. MR. TOMLINSON: This is -- this amendment is a request from Road and Bridge which anticipates the utilities for the remainder of the year, and this request is to transfer $1,424 from the Insurance line item for vehicles, into Utilities. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 12 for Road and Bridge 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 zs Department. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 13 is Nondepartmental. MR. TOMLINSON: This request is -- is from the County Clerk to transfer $2,49s from Nondepartmental Capital Outlay into Nondepartmental Computer Software, and it's a bill from -- paying a bill for $2,495 to The Software Group, and it's -- it was a budgeted item, but it was budgeted in -- in the Capital Outlay, and really it's a reclassification for -- to reclassify the expense. And, what it is, it's a remote access license for -- for another user to use our system, is what it's for. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 13 for Nondepartmental. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. MS. ALFORD: Judge, it has a late bill. Do you need to issue a hand check for it? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, I do have a hand check that I need a -- I need a hand check for. It's a late bill, and it's dated July the 2Sth. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I amend my motion to include a hand check. JUDGE HENNEKE: Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER LETZ: So second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion is amended as to include the issuance of a hand check in the amount of $2,495 to Software Group. Any further questions or comments? If not, all iri favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 19 is for Court Collections Department. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This request is to transfer $176.83 from Conferences to Telephone line item for Court Collections. This also anticipates the remainder of the year. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 14 for the Court Collections Department. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Request Number 15 comes from the County Jail. MR. TOMLINSON: This request is from the Sheriff's Office to transfer $2,792.94 from Radio Equipment line item in the Sheriff's budget, $1,466.39 to Prisoner Transfer in the jail, $218.79 for Prisoner Medical in the jail, $118.75 into Jail Uniforms, $63.01 to Computer Supplies in the Sheriff's Office, $180.24 into Lease Copier in the Sheriff's Office, $745.81 into Vehicle Repairs and Maintenance in the Sheriff's Office. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 15 for the County Jail. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 16 is for Commissioners Court. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This request is from Commissioner Griffin to transfer $116.85 from Professional Services into Conferences for the Commissioners Court. I also -- I have attached to this a late bill that I want -- I am requesting a hand check for. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 16 for Commissioners Court and authorize issuance of a hand check in the amount of -- MR. TOMLINSON: $254.54. JUDGE HENNEKE: -- $254.54, payable to Commissioner Griffin. Any further questions or comments? If not -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question. Question on just this overall line item. Did we -- and Thea can probably answer. Did we go to more conferences this year? I mean, Commissioner Baldwin's conference -- a lot of it was 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 paid by the state association, and we're over budget, and I haven't submitted a bill for me going to the conference, so we're going to be way over before long. I -- I'm just wondering why we're so far over our budget in conferences for Commissioners Court. MS. SOVIL: Didn't budget the full 36. MS. NEMEC: Y'all are spending too much when you go. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you, Barbara. Take that -- take her name down. (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the answer really would be the overall expenses have gone up. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We might -- when we go through our final budget, we might look at that and make sure -- I know we adjusted it, but we're going to be -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Didn't we get a little bit less this time because we knew Commissioner Baldwin's was picked up through the South Texas -- (Discussion off the record.) MS. SOVIL: See? It's normally 36. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 17 is for the County Jail. MR. TOMLINSON: This is a request to transfer $555 from Capital Outlay in Nondepartmental to Computer Hardware in the jail, and it's to replace a printer in the jail. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve Budget Amendment Request Number 17 for the County Jail. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Do we have any more late bills, Tommy? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. The first one is payable to Perry Cortese in the amount of $700. Its for an ad litem attorney fee. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1~ 2C 2] 2~ 2; 2' 2' JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $700 payable to Perry Cortese for attorney ad litem fees. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. MR. TOMLINSON: The next one is to Back 40 Supply. It's for $2,815 for a utility trailer for the Ag Barn. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $2,815 payable to Back 40 Supply. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. The next one is to The 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 2` Home Center. It's for $850. It's for materials for the Juvenile Probation Department construction. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $850 payable to The Home Center. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. The next one is to the -- payable to the South Texas J.P. and Constables Association. It's for $150. It's for the registration for J.P. 1 and his clerk. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $150 payable to the order of South Texas J.Y. and Constables Association for J.P. 1. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. The next one is to the Holiday Inn Sunspree for $357.08 for lodging for two individuals at the J.P. and Constables Association training. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Third. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $357.08 payable to Holiday Inn for J.P. 1 conference expenses. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carried. MR. TOMLINSON: The last one is to Vance Elliott for $35.75, and it's for reimbursement for travel to the conference. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve a late bill and hand check in the amount of $35.75 payable to the order of Vance Elliott for reimbursement for travel expenses. Any further questions or comments? If not -- I guess not -- all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: We do not have any minutes to approve. At this time, I would entertain a motion to approve and accept the monthly reports as presented. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve and accept the monthly reports as presented. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay. 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2F COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That must have set a record. JUDGE HENNEKE: No, we're a long way from a record, I think. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Up in the 20's. JUDGE HENNEKE: Turning to the consideration agenda, the first item for consideration is Item Number 1, consider and discuss approval of the form of volunteer fire department contracts and authorize the County Judge to sign same when presented with a contract signed by a volunteer fire department. Commissioner Griffin. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Actually, Mr. Lucas will present the contract to us. MR. LUCAS: Gentlemen, I believe that y'all have looked over this contract. Out of my 13-month tenure, I've never seen a contract negotiated to such a degree, and suffice to it say, it's a good contract, legally and perhaps even policy-wise. The second page contains the boilerplate legal issues. We kept them to a minimum, as we did with what I call the "policy provisions" on the first page. We made the document as succinct as possible, and also readable to all non-lawyers, so it was a plus with that. Like I said, this went through extensive negotiations, and from what I've understood -- what I understand, the Hunt Volunteer Fire Department has -- their Board of Directors 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 has checked off on it, as has their general counsel. That was done through Commissioner Griffin, I believe, over the last couple of weeks. There's nothing in here that, you know, we can't do. In other words, everything's legal. There's nothing onerous about the provisions, and I'll just entertain any questions you may have. JUDGE HENNEKE: Anyone have any questions of Mr. Lucas? Commissioners? COMMISSIONER LETZ: One question, and I'm -- it jumped out at me. The primary fire response area, that's defined in Chapter 352 as to what that actually is? The primary response area? MR. LUCAS: Well, no, that's -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: It isn't? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Not in 352. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, is it defined somewhere? MR. LUCAS: No, it's not at all. The -- all 352 authorizes us to do is to contract with a volunteer fire department, period. And, those type -- the decisions that I think you're referring to are solely up to that fire department. Our authority ends once we contract, so -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think the question, though, is who defines the primary area. I think that's done in the charter, is it not, Dutch? 37 1 ,.-. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ,.-, 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,•-. 25 MR. HINTZE: Yes, sir. But there still is the question about the statement that we submitted as a result of the 31 July workshop, that when the contract was drafted originally -- remember, it said that the fire departments were responsible for Kerr County, and then we discussed that at the workshop and said, you know, that really wasn't workable because it wasn't the way the system operated. And I sent in -- I acknowledged that during the workshop, that I'd take a crack at submitting an input that would cover that, and I sent it in. But, in going back through the contracts all the way back to 1996, they all have the same statement in there, the identical statement, even through the contract of this year. And, it says the department shall, considering the department's commitment to its own area, provide backup emergency fire services to the other areas of the county as requested. I think that says it all, and I respectfully recommend that that statement be included in this contract in Paragraph 2. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: However -- we took your letter, Dutch, and I presented that to the County Attorney's office, and in the scrubdown of all of what we could do legally and -- illegally or whatever, the decision was that we had no authority to say how one department relates to another. Help me with that, Travis. MR. LUCAS: That's right. No, it's that 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2~ simple. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's how we were advised, and that's the reason it's not in there. And, as we said at the workshop, we'd take a look at it, and we did, again, and it just didn't survive the scrutiny that, this time, the County Attorney's office gave to the contract. It probably should not have been in there before. That's -- that was the problem. MR. LUCAS: Yeah, I think that's correct. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It just shouldn't have been in the contract before, because there's no authority for the Court to enter into that kind of agreement. That's where we stand. COMMISSIONER LETZ: With that said, then, if it's not a defined definition legally, why just say within the response area of Kerr County? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: No, the P.F.R.A. -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- is defined in the -- in the fire department's charter, what their area is. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I understand. In all of them? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: In all of them, and that's what we're doing, is we're -- in each case, we are contracting with them to provide -- 'cause that's what the 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 2` statute allows you to do. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Is to provide service in that area. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. My last question, and then I'll -- is that preposition correct after the parentheses? Should it be "to" Kerr County or "of" Kerr County? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Fire protection services "to" Kerr County. COMMISSIONER LETZ: To Kerr County? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Provide fire protection services to Kerr County. I think that's right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any other questions or comments from the Commissioners? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: My only comment is, you said that you had written it where non-attorneys could read it. MR. LUCAS: I hope. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Back in the good old days, there were more of us than y'all back then. MR. LUCAS: Right. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No longer. So you can 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1~ 2C 21 2~ 2. 2~ 2` write it any way you want to. MR. LUCAS: Right, I guess so. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good piece of work, counselor. Thank you. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Short and succinct. Every draft got shorter. JUDGE HENNEKE: That's right. Good work. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any final discussion? JUDGE HENNEKE: Anything else? Any other comments? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'll make a motion that we approve the form of the volunteer fire department contracts and authorize County Judge to sign them as they are presented, signed by the volunteer fire departments. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve the form of volunteer fire department contracts as presented, and authorize County Judge to sign same when presented with contract executed by volunteer fire department. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (NO response.) 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 2, consider Letter of Credit issued for Falling Waters Subdivision. Franklin? MR. JGHNSTON: This came about as a result of a phone call we received from, I guess, someone looking at the property in Falling Water; they said that the road was not complete and the Letter of Credit is about to expire, so I went back and looked at it. That was one question I had. And they said, "Why do you have a Letter of Credit for maintenance and not for construction of the roads?" I said, "Well, better go back and look." How it turned out, when we approved that -- that plat revision, we received a -- a fax as part of the backup; didn't have the actual Letter of Credit. The fax stated the conditions and said for the purpose of construction of additional roadways in Falling Water Subdivision. Then, on the day we approved the plat revision, we received the actual Letter of Credit, and it says "for maintenance of roads, streets, and alleyways in Falling Water Subdivision." So, somewhere there's a miscommunication there. And, we looked in the Subdivision Rules, and the term was also not correct. It says that the term should be for a 3-year period, and this was only for a 1-year period. So, we're asking for a revision of the Letter of Credit. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is it -- I mean, have we 92 .-. 1 2 3 9 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 -- has the developer -- I mean, is the Letter of Credit ready? We just have to approve it? Or are we authorizing you to tell him he needs to do it? MR. JOHNSTON: I think the latter. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Latter. I'll make a motion that we authorize Road and Bridge to contact Dale Crenwelge, the developer, and work out the details of a Letter of Credit. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. MR. JOHNSTON: I think the actual language in the Subdivision Rules says that Letters of Credit will be approved by the County Attorney and then, you know, submitted to the Court. And we've been relying on faxes and such. I guess in the future, we need to actually get that letter before we put the item on the agenda. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Probably a good idea. JUDGE HENNEKE: When is our first meeting in October? AUDIENCE: The 9th. JUDGE HENNEKE: It's the 9th. MS. SOVIL: The 5th is on a Friday. JUDGE HENNEKE: The 8th is a holiday. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's correct. MS. SOVIL: Right. 93 r 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. I certainly agree with your motion. What I'm trying to do is set up a time frame if, for some reason, we don't have the revised Letter of Credit for approval on the 9th, that we still have time to draw on the existing Letter of Credit before it expires at close of business on the 10th. MR. JOHNSTON: Expires on the 10th. JUDGE HENNEKE: Correct. MR. JOHNSTON: The next day. JUDGE HENNEKE: I'm just checking the time line here. We have time in order to let it run out. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That would certainly encourage you to work it out before our second meeting in September. MR. JOHNSTON: Get it in the proper format. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We have time to wait. If we don't have it, I would tell Mr. Crenwelge we need to get this in order by the second meeting of September, whatever date that falls on. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court authorize Franklin Johnston to notify Mr. Crenwelge of the need to replace existing Letter of Credit Number 08005 for Falling Water Subdivision with a Letter of Credit conforming to the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations. Any further 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 3, consider and approve final revision of plat for Lots 176, 177, 178, and 179 of Spicer Ranch. Commissioner Williams, I believe this is yours, isn't it? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't think so. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's in my precinct. JUDGE HENNEKE: Sorry, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Go ahead, Franklin. MR. JOHNSTON: This item, we had a couple things that we wanted them to look at on the preliminary, which they have completed. They put the lot numbers in sequence with the old existing plat. He marked where all the residences were; there's just one. And, they do not have their own wells; they're on a public water system. And, I believe it's to the satisfaction of U.G.R.A. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any questions or comments? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we approve the final revision of plat for Lots 176, 177, 178, and 179 of Spicer Ranch III. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve the final revision of plat for Lots 176, 177, 178, and 179 of Spicer Ranch, Roman numeral III. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Moving right along, Item Number 4, consider and approve name changes for privately maintained roads in Precinct 1 and 4 in accordance in the 911 guidelines. Truby? MS. HARDIN: We have a total of eight road names, seven in Precinct 4 and one in Precinct 1. And, if you'll notice on the new form, it shows the effective date to be October the 11th. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'll move that we approve the name changes as submitted, privately maintained roads in Precinct 1 and 4, in accordance with the 911 guidelines as presented. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin that the Court approve the name changes for privately maintained roads in 46 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 l7 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Precinct 1 and 4 as presented, in accordance with the 911 guidelines. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Next item is Number 5, consider authorizing advertisement for Notice of Public Hearings to eliminate duplicated names for County-maintained roads in accordance with 911 guidelines, and set the public hearing date for the same. Once again, Truby. MS. HARDIN: We discussed this at the last Commissioners Court date, and we changed the date to October 9th, and we added a few roads. Precinct 2 has -- I mean, Precinct 1 has two roads. Precinct 2, one. Precinct 3 has two, and Precinct 4 has 18. On this ad here, I'd like to make two corrections. Down on Sleepy Hollow, the country lane, it needs a geo-region of "West" on the end of those two names. And I would like to add Belfield. It is the official name for Rustic Hill, but is known by all the citizens out there as Rustic Hills, so we'd like to do that to clean up, and it would be to Rustic Hill Road Southwest. JUDGE HENNEKE: From -- what is it now? 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. HARDIN: Belfield, B-e-1-f-i-e-1-d. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: To Rustic Wills West? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Rustic Hills is really the real name, isn't it? MS. HARDIN: No, sir. The official name is Belfield, but it is commonly known as Rustic Hill. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. MS. HARDIN: And it's also known by 911 as Rustic Hill. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The road signs have always said Rustic Hills, but on the plat done in 1864, it says Belfield. MS. HARDIN: And on the road list. Do we need -- we don't need to read all these names off, do we? JUDGE HENNEKE: No. Do I have a motion to authorize publication of the names and set the public hearing for October 9th, Year 2001, at 10 a.m.? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court authorize advertisement of public hearing to eliminate duplicated names for County-maintained roads in accordance with 911 guidelines and set a public hearing for 10 o'clock a.m. on Tuesday, October 9, Year 2001, in the Commissioners 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Courtroom here in the Kerr County Courthouse. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay. Next item is Item Number 6, consider and discuss the step and grade designation for the first assistant auditor. Mr. Tomlinson. MR. TOMLINSON: I didn't furnish any backup to the Court, as the Treasurer or Personnel Director for the County is actually going to furnish the backup. My request is based on the fact that my first assistant essentially has the same -- the same general duties as the chief deputy in other departments in -- in the courthouse. I -- I have discussed this situation with -- with my boss, and he -- he joins me in -- in requesting that we make this -- that the Court allow this change from -- in changing the grade from a grade of 17 to a 19. And he emphasizes, and I also concur, that since -- since I am part-time, and that it's -- it's important that we -- we have a pay level that we can -- that we can pay a very qualified individual. In most counties in the state, in auditors' offices, the first assistant auditor -- in a lot of cases, a degree in accounting is 99 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 required. And, this is especially -- this job becomes more and more complex all the time. With GASB 34 down the line, I'm -- I have to spend -- I'm going to have to spend almost 75, 80 percent of my time in making that happen, and I -- I just -- that's just my request. And, if you have any questions about -- about the -- from the Treasurer, she's here to answer that. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We talked -- go ahead. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No, you go ahead. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How much money are we talking about between the 17 and 19? MR. TOMLINSON: The difference is $3,325. However, the net of that is -- is $1,825. Currently, my first assistant is -- manages and operates the phone system. That -- that job is being handed over to our communications person effective October 1st. We have -- we have paid my first assistant approximately $1,450 for that service, so the net of that is one thousand -- approximately $1,850. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And you're not asking for it to happen until -- be effective until October 1? MR. TOMLINSON: October 1. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Talking about the new budget year? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. JUDGE HENNEKE: Barbara? 50 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. NEMEC: Really, this should have been done last year. And, in case you're wondering why it wasn't done last year when we had Nash and Associates -- Nash and Company here doing the reclassifications, the survey job descriptions, the two employees in the auditor's office -- he was running behind and they were out in the hall waiting for him, to be seen. They waited 45 minutes and weren't able to see him, so they never were interviewed. And I truly believe that, had they been interviewed, they certainly would have put an accounts payable and a first assistant at the same level. The first assistant needs to know all of our jobs; she audits all of our offices, so I feel that she's real worthy of that salary. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Unless I misread the packet we got from -- that had the Nash -- Mr. Nash's comments, there was three of them that were submitted; this was one of the ones, and he rejected all of them. MS. NEMEC: He rejected all of them. Let me say this; that he and I talked on the phone, to let him know what was coming through his desk, and when we talked about each individual position that was coming through his desk for him to look at, he immediately agreed with me on this one that we're discussing. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I thought -- MS. NEMEC: It was not until -- then he asked 1 ~., 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 for backup. I just sent what I had, which was the job description. We had done two different job descriptions, because they only had one job description, which the -- you know, accounts payable, audits, dah-dah-dah-dah. Well, the employees in that office, not both of them audit, not both of the do accounts payable, so we had to do two different job descriptions. Well, he was in agreement that the first assistant should be moved up. Once he got the information, he called me back and he said, just so that I can have a backup, make sure that I get a letter from your Auditor requesting this. Well, Tommy was pretty aggravated about the whole situation since last year, and his letter indicated that, so it was after he received Tommy's letter that he rejected that particular one. MR. TOMLINSON: I made the man mad. MS. NEMEC: He made him mad. And, I can not honest and sends this honest letter, and it was after that that he said no. COMMISSIONER LETZ the whole process, I heard a lot of complaints about Mr. Nash and how that process went. And, by reading his response and the sarcasm that I read in his e-mails, I would 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 52 never recommend hiring that man again for anything. It was absolutely ridiculous. MS. NEMEC: You don't make him mad, yeah. COMMISSIONER LETZ: He put in the e-mails back to -- I guess they're addressed to you, but they're -- all three of them. And, I mean, I read through those things. I was, like, "Where's this guy coming from?" I mean -- MS. NEMEC: He does not like to be questioned. He does not like to be questioned. COMMISSIONER LETZ: It seemed to me that he rejected some -- all three because someone in Kerr County was challenging his decision. MR. TOMLINSON: That's what I did; I challenged his decision. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyway -- MS. NEMEC: Exactly. So, that's how that happened. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And to add to that just a little bit, just -- as I understand it, the Court has the final authority, not Mr. Nash. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I agree. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That was my understanding. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And, I don't know; at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 53 some point I think we'll quit calling him, right? I mean, at some point -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. MS. NEMEC: Our year is up. We had a year contract with him, and so when these three came up, that they wanted their titles to be looked at, their pay to be looked at, we had to refer them to him because we had a year contract. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: He's giving us a recommendation. MS. NEMEC: However -- right. As of August, our year is up. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think we can -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Certainly not follow his recommendation. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: In the future, yeah. Okay. JODGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or comments'? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm in agreement with the Auditor. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Was that a motion? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we approve the -- whatever the step and grade is, 17 -- MS. NEMEC: 19/6. 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Nineteen -- from 17 what? MS. NEMEC: I'm sorry, from -- a 17/6 to a 19/6. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do I hear a second? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve reclassification of the first assistant auditor's position from a Grade 17 to a Grade 19 and authorize reclassification of the existing assistant county auditor from a 17/6 to a 19/6. Any further questions -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Effective? JUDGE HENNEKE: Effective October 1st, Year 2001. Thank you, Bill. Any further questions or comments? JUDGE RAGSDALE: If they're talking about Mindy here, this County would be in horrible, horrible, horrible shape if we made that woman mad enough to quit. She is much more qualified than probably what we deserve, and sure has kept a lot of elected officials -- I won't mention any names -- out of a lot of trouble. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That is true. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any other comments? Franklin? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 55 MR. JOHNSTON: There were three people, I think, and one of them's not on the agenda this time, but if there's some way we can address that also? The -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Not today. Can't be done today. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Put it back on the agenda. JUDGE HENNEKE: If there's no further questions or comments, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Next item is Item Number 7, which is consider and discuss approval of reclassification of job title or increase in step/grade for the accounting clerk in the County Clerk's office. Jannett? MS. PIEPER: Gentlemen, if y'all will remember, I think I'm the very first one that upset Mr. Nash extremely when I questioned him, so I'm here to try to get my senior accounting clerk reclassified as an administrative clerk. All of y'all know, just like Mindy does all of the accounting, my senior accounting clerk does all of my accounting for all 15 departments, and then some. In addition to bookkeeping, she assists my chief deputy and supervises personnel with required recordkeeping, and all 56 1 ~. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 different kind of functions. I have, as backup, what happened prior to the Nash study, and then what happened after the Nash study with her. And, she's had to go through a whole year being over one administrator, making less money than that person now. At one point they were all 15's; however, after the Nash study, the administrators -- of course, their titles were changed to administrators, and they got bumped up to 17's, except for her. And, in the process of all the Nash study, I had to fight him tremendously, because he wanted to take one of my deputy clerks and bump her up to an administrative clerk on one of them that didn't deserve it, so I had to fight two battles with him. And, during the appeal process, I was more worried about my probate deputy getting bumped up to a -- an administrative clerk, that she did not deserve that position, and in reading my bookkeeper's duties and job descriptions, it has all of her bookkeeping skills in there that she does, plus it also lists the administrative duties. So, therefore, i failed to appeal that one. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Jannett, which -- who among these ladies are in your supervisory hierarchy? MS. PIEPER: It lists -- it goes down. My first one is my chief deputy. My second-in-command is the senior accounting clerk, and that's the one we're talking about. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 57 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Anyone else? MS. PIEPER: And then after that, it just goes straight down the list. I'm not listing names, because we're not in Executive Session. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. I, too, read the Nash report on Ms. Tuck's response to Mr. Nash, which I thought left a lot to be desired. The opening paragraph, he concurred that there was -- there were deserving -- that Ms. Tuck was deserving of this improvement, and then he went on and argued himself out of it during the remainder of his -- of his dissertation, over e-mail. I'm glad we're not paying for that stuff any more. So, anything else we need to know about, Barbara? MS. NEMEC: No. The only thing is that I was looking here through his study that he did last year. It says to recognize more complexity on some desks, we also recommend the designation "senior" in a few instances. So, in here he does -- he does address that there is more complexity in -- in her job. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess -- it doesn't make sense to me -- I mean, and certainly every elected official has the right and obligation to organize their department. It doesn't make sense. If Jannett's choice is to have this position -- or the person in that position be basically the number three person, that person should be 58 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 15 20 21 22 23 24 25 paid accordingly, I mean, and -- you know, and as long as they're doing the work, it just doesn't make sense to me, the way it's set up. MS. PIEPER: When my staff and I talked about the titles, you know -- because I know within the counties they all want to stay uniform. So, one of the quotes that was made by my senior accounting clerk was, "I don't care what I'm paid, as long as I get the money for doing the job that I am doing." And, so, I understand that there's not an administrative bookkeeper, per se, in the personnel records for that title, so if we could at least get her salary up to where it should be, I would be satisfied with that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is your preference to change the step -- change the grade or change the step and grade'? MS. PIEPER: The -- JUDGE HENNEKE: The step. MS. PIEPER: The step. Well, no. No, sir. No, the step and the grade. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Both? MS. PIEPER: In order for her to be equal, she needs to be raised to a 15/10, if we don't change her title. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And if we change the title, then it goes to a 17/6? 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. PIEPER: 17/6. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That would be your first preference; is that correct? MS. PIEPER: That would be my first preference. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Total impact is $586? MS. PIEPER: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What's the total impact to the budget? $586? JUDGE HENNEKE: The job description that the Court approved last year, which I am looking at right now -- MS. PIEPER: Mm-hmm. JUDGE HENNEKE: -- does not have any supervisory responsibilities in it. MS. PIEPER: They should be there. JUDGE HENNEKE: I'm talking about the one that was approved last year and which is in effect right now. I know you've marked up one which includes supervisory responsibility, but her job description right now has no supervisory responsibility in it. MS. PIEPER: None of my job descriptions in my office are accurate, and you and I spoke about that, because I was under the impression from you that, because my deputy clerk in the front of my office does not do anything that the deputy in the back of my office does, you had 60 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 implied that the Nash Company was going to do them individual. JUDGE HENNEKE: I don't know whether I implied that or thought that. That was a long time ago; I've slept since then, so I don't remember that. The point is, you're trying to base the increase to a 17 on supervisory responsibility. It's not reflected in her job description. Now, it may be that her job description is inaccurate, but these job descriptions were negotiated and adopted by the Court less than a year ago. MS. PIEPER: Right. JUDGE HENNEKE: So how can they be so changed from a year ago? MS. PIEPER: Because none of them in my office are accurate. But -- JODGE HENNEKE: Well, I mean, that's -- MS. PIEPER: Each deputy clerk, each administrative assistant, each one of them do different things in the office. So, I feel like I'm kind of losing the battle on that. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Is there such a thing as a senior administrative accounting clerk -- a senior administrative clerk? MS. PIEPER: Not that I'm aware of. Barbara? MS. NEMEC: No. 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: To raise it, you change it to basically -- if we do change it to a 17, it becomes an administrative accounting clerk? MS. PIEPER: Right. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And -- couple questions, Jannett. Did -- did Nash not look at any of your job descriptions? JUDGE HENNEKE: He prepared it, the ones that we -- MS. PIEPER: I requested to speak to him five different times. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What I'm getting at -- I understand that, 'cause you and I spoke and you told me that. But, in the process, did he not -- did he not -- MS. PIEPER: He did. I marked -- I marked -- we were sent our job descriptions. I marked them all up, I sent them back to him, and I got basically the same thing he had sent me the first time. So -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So he ignored them? MS. PIEPER: Right. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Didn't want to approve them, but you did mark them up and sent them? MS. PIEPER: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, in effect, are you asking us tonight, in addition to moving this particular 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 person up to an administrative accounting clerk or improving the grade so that the -- MS. PIEPER: Or changing the step and the grade to a 15/10. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The job description be changed as well, or not? MS. PIEPER: I would need to get my other job description for y'all to approve that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But not tonight. MS. PIEPER: No, because I don't have it with me. MS. NEMEC: The thing that y'all need to think about, too, is that if you're going to make this a 15/10 rather than a 17/6, what you need to stop to think is, when that -- when that job -- when that person is no longer in that job, is that job going to be worth a 15/1 or a 17/1? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. MS. NEMEC: So, when you -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, I'm not sure it should be. I mean, and Jannett does a good job, and I'm not arguing with her to be obstreperous, but look at her whole department. Counting Jannett, she has 15 people in her department, and if we make this change, then there's going to be five supervisors out of 15 people. Jannett -- actually, six; Jannett and her chief deputy and four 63 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 administrative clerks. COMMISSIONER LETZ: But, by the same token, though, if Jannett chooses to have a senior accounting clerk be the third most responsible person of that -- running that office, there needs to be a way to get that person to a salary level -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, I -- MS. PIEPER: There are times that me and my chief deputy are out of the office together; early voting, schools, just taking care of the clerking business. So, when she and I are out of the office, somebody else needs to be in charge. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We've come across the same situation as a result of the Nash review of all of our jobs, most recently with the Sheriff. And, he upgraded the department significantly, which it needed to be, and we approved that, only to find out 10 months later the chief deputy is making more money than the Sheriff. That doesn't wash. I don't think it washes in any department. I think there ought to be a clear, distinct disparity between those in supervisory responsibility and those who are being supervised. I've always believed that, and I'm not going to stop believing it tonight. MS. NEMEC: We didn't find out 10 months later, though, in that case. The Sheriff knew when that 69 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 happened that he was making less money than his chief deputy, and he chose not to ask for a higher salary at that time. So, I do have to defend Nash in that way. It wasn't -- we were aware of it. The Sheriff was aware of it, and he chose to keep it that way. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I do agree with the Judge on the point that I think it's -- at some point, we need -- do need to look at the number of employees in the department and number of supervisors in the department. And, I mean, you can't end up with all supervisors. I mean, that doesn't work, either. I'm not sure where that line is. I think that's one thing that -- but it's a little bit of a separate issue, to me, on this particular case. I mean, if the individual -- the senior accounting clerk is going to be the number three person in the office, I think that person needs to be raised to a 17. Now, there may be a few -- a second part of this that says, Jannett, you have too many supervisors. You need to relook at your overall classification. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's a different subject. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Different subject. MS. PIEPER: But I have a lot more departments than most -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm not saying -- 65 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. PIEPER: -- than most offices here. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's a different issue than we're talking about tonight. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Barbara, are the dollars the same, 15/10 and 17/6? MS. NEMEC: No, sir -- oh, I'm sorry. 15/10 and 17/6? MS. PIEPER: Yes. MS. NEMEC: Okay, a 15/10 is $24,755. 17/6 is $24,754. MS. PIEPER: One dollar more. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Close enough. MS. NEMEC: And -- and there's two more steps after a 10, so that's going to lock that individual into two more steps and that's it. Because the Court last year chose not to go further than a 12, so that's another thing to consider. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I would like to suggest that, Jannett, you come back with a -- a job description that fits so that the Court can take a look at that, but in the meantime I'm going to move that we do a reclassification for this position to a 17/6. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. DODGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the position 66 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 of senior accounting clerk in the County Clerk's office be reclassified from a 15/6 to a 17/6. MS. PIEPER: Thank you, gentlemen. MS. NEMEC: I'm sorry, Commissioner Williams, what was that statement you made about -- she should come back with what? JUDGE HENNEKE: Job description. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Revision of the job description. MS. NEMEC: Updated to a supervisory position. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: With her responsibilities. MS. NEMEC: Effective October 1? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Effective October 1. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay. Number 8, Mr. Ragsdale, permission to purchase an item as Capital Outlay and transfer the money necessary to the proper line item. JUDGE RAGSDALE: Actually, two -- three items 67 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 within that, if you'll let me discuss them. One is the fact that, since I prepared my budget, I've had another printer bite the dust. These are -- these are the worst printers -- I bought Epson for a reason; I thought that they would be up to the task, and they've not been. They're wide-carriage printers, because 2 have a need for a wide-carriage printer, so I bought two of them in case one of them died. I still have a wide-carriage printer that I can still use for narrow paper. But, what has happened is, apparently there's some defect with this particular model. The mother board in them has -- and one of them, while they were under warranty, died four times. They told us this time -- the printer costs $450 -- they'd charge us $325 to replace the mother board. That's a waste of money. I would just rather -- I've been working with the Auditor's office and -- what's the fellow's name that does the computer -- the guru? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Shaun. JUDGE RAGSDALE: Shaun. My understanding is -- is, for $900, we should be able to replace both of those printers without me asking for an emergency expenditure; just transfer from my Dockets and Forms line item to Capital Outlay. I can't remember what number that is. I think maybe -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's in here. JUDGE RAGSDALE: Is it on that sheet there? 68 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 That's one item. Then the other item that I need to address, since I have some funds in there, is all of the law enforcement in this county now, or almost all of them, are using video cameras now. I have no way to allow them to use that evidence in my court, so I need a VC player and TV to be mounted in my courtroom. It's about $500. JUDGE HENNEKE: $550. JUDGE RAGSDALE: $550. That might -- then the last item would be a chair for my clerk. I don't want to get him bucked out and -- and go through that thing again. Actually, he's using a chair that belongs to me and not to the County, but it's becoming fatigued, and I would like about $400 to get a good, safe chair for him, and replace my own personal item. COMMISSIONER GRIE'FIN: Is all of that coming out of Dockets and Forms? JUDGE RAGSDALE: No, sir. Some of that is coming out of Conference. I wasn't able to go to legislative update and some other things that I needed to go to. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Everything was okay until you hit the $400 chair. Seems like a lot for a chair. I haven't bought chairs recently, but just like -- JUDGE RAGSDALE: Well, the last one I bought was about $350. I mean, if I can find one that's safe 69 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and -- and will be durable for less, I won't spend the money, but I didn't want to ask -- you know, with freight included, I didn't want to ask for less than what I would need. JUDGE HENNEKE: The problem we have, Bill, is that the only item that's posted is the $550 transfer. JUDGE RAGSDALE: That's the only one I gave you backup for. Actually, I -- I don't mind delaying for a couple weeks the -- the other two items. It's just that I was appearing here today, and those things came up in the interim. I -- I asked -- actually, I thought maybe that the Auditor was going to bring up the -- the printers, but he hadn't yet, and so I decided, since I was here anyway, and the item -- line item was -- verbiage was loose enough that I thought maybe I could go ahead and take care of all of it at one time, rather than take up your time and my time again. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, the posting -- other than the lack of the last word, "item" instead of "items," plural. But, I mean, it is pretty broad. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It looks broad enough to do it, to me. JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. I'm not going to argue. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm not sure this is 70 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1~ 2C 2] 2~ 2; 2~ 2' English, but -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Can we phrase a budget amendment or whatever to do all of that? I think that's the only thing we don't have here. I think the -- if the -- the agenda item is okay, we just need to get those numbers out of where they're coming from and where they are they going. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I agree. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Why don't -- why don't we take no action on this and let's handle it as a budget amendment next time, and just do all of them? JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, it can't be just a budget amendment, because the VCR and the TV were not listed on the Capital Outlay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's right. JUDGE HENNEKE: What we can do today is -- if we want to, is amend Judge Ragsdale's Capital Outlay to authorize purchase of a VCR and television, and do it all as a budget amendment next -- and chair, and do it all as a budget amendment next time, or we can go ahead and -- and do whatever you want to do. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let's do it all, be done with it. I'd make a motion that we do it, but I don't know if I can figure out how to say all that. JUDGE HENNEKE: Do we have good numbers? Is 71 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 it $900 for the printers, Tommy? Do you know how much? MR. TOMLINSON: I'm sorry? JUDGE HENNEKE: Do we know how much the printers are for the J.P.'s court? MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know. Is Shaun here? JUDGE RAGSDALE: He was. I thought he was staying; all of a sudden I turned around, and he had disappeared. MR. TOMLINSON: I didn't check the printers, so I don't know. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Didn't Shaun -- Shaun said $900? JUDGE RAGSDALE: That's what Mindy told me last week. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Is that that same kind of printer you replaced in mine? JUDGE HENNEKE: How much for a chair? $400? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Four. JUDGE HENNEKE: Make the motion. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. JUDGE HENNEKE: Do we have a second? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court authorize the amendment to J.P. Ragsdale's Precinct 4 budget to authorize 72 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 purchase of a VCR and television and chair for his court, and that the Court authorize a transfer of $550 from Dockets and Forms, as well as $900 and $400 from a combination of Dockets and Forms and Conference and Travel for the purchase of the television, the VCR, a chair for the clerk, and two printers. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS that? Hear, hear. Where'd you get all JUDGE HENNEKE: I made them up as I went along. JUDGE RAGSDALE: That's why he's the County Judge. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any questions or comments? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I know that. JUDGE HENNEKE: If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. JUDGE RAGSDALE: Thank you. JUDGE HENNEKE: The time has come. Let's take a break and return promptly at 8 o'clock. (Recess taken from 7:52 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.) 73 1 .-. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .-.. 25 DODGE HENNEKE: Okay. Let's resume this property, and instruct the County Attorney to proceed to enforce the ordinance. Commissioner Baldwin, I believe this is in your precinct; is that correct? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, it is. I'm just going to make a comment and then turn it over to -- Franklin, I guess you're carrying the ball on this thing? It says here in this letter from Franklin -- it says "Buster and I meet with..." I mean, okay. Okay, we did. We did -- we did meet with Mr. Barney -- it's a mobile home park out on Ranchero Road -- several months ago, and talked -- told him specifically how this Manufactured Home Rental Community program works, sent him a copy of it. And I met with him, and then Franklin and I met with him, and his -- his deal at that time was, he was getting a little financial problem there and he wanted to know if he could park some of his mobile homes on his property to satisfy some kind of bank deal. And, I told him I didn't have any problem with that at all; he can do whatever he wants to on his own property, in my opinion, but when he got down to the roads and the O.S.S.F. program, then he needs to start complying with 74 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 rules and regulations. So, he has put in -- there's a couple of -- two or three mobile homes out there that don't even have windows in them. And, take it from there before I get angry and start saying some things. MR. JOHNSTON: Well, I just know it's -- from the road, it looks like the entire area is filled up with mobile homes all of a sudden. We still don't have that development plan, so I just -- that's why I brought it to your attention. JUDGE HENNEKE: Is there any indication that he's renting these at this time? Or -- MR. JOHNSTON: I don't know. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I try not to look up there. I don't know what he's doing, but he's put in roads without authorization. I mean, just by the photographs, I see at least one car which appears to be a resident-type car. I mean, it's parked in the driveway. MR. JOHNSTON: This was during the day. I don't know if -- you know, people -- people could have been gone or -- I don't know if they're -- you can tell if they're hooked up or not. JUDGE HENNEKE: Let's be clear. To me, he's in violation, by the pictures. It's not just one or two. We're talking about -- MR. JOHNSTON: Probably a dozen of them. ~s 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: There's about 11, I think. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Eleven in this one picture. MR. BROWN: Is there a street address for that piece of property? JUDGE HENNEKE: Thirteen -- MR. JOHNSTON: That may be his residence. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: What is the location on that? Or -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's at the corner of Ranchero and Machon. A new county road, Machon Road. It's the old Baldwin Mobile Home Park. No, no relation. MR. BROWN: I'll check and see if there's any O.S.S.F. violations. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: What can we do here? Do we just authorize the County Attorney to take a look at it? Or -- MR. LUCAS: Really, there's about three things. You can enjoin them. We can sue for damages for any kind of construction that we have to do to remedy the situation. We can also file a Class B misdemeanor, criminal case. What's interesting is that I have this guy as a chief witness for the State in about three weeks, and -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You'll be in a 76 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 position to have a heart-to-heart talk with him. MR. LUCAS: -- my strategy is going to somehow... (Laughter.) (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: I suggest we instruct the County Attorney's office to investigate the situation and report back to us the appropriate action. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And, this looks pretty far along, so we need -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Report back to us at our next meeting, which is September the 10th. MR. LUCAS: You bet. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And I would think that the rules and regulations clearly say that the County Engineer needs to go and inspect construction of roads, et cetera, et cetera. Yes or no? MR. JOHNSTON: Yeah, that's part of the thing; I think we're supposed to do an inspection. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And some of it's been paved -- I mean, he's a long ways along. MR. JOHNSTON: Next time I write it, I'll try to get the grammar correct. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'd appreciate that. Thank you. 77 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. We're done with that one. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do we need a motion to do that, or is he just going to go do it? JUDGE HENNEKE: We might -- MR. LUCAS: Y'all may -- of course, you know, it's a criminal action -- well, let me just give that to you. The actual enforcement in the Subdivision Rules says, at the request of the Commissioners Court, the County Attorney for the county may file an action in a court of competent jurisdiction to enjoin or recover damages, if we need to undertake any construction. But, if we, you know, decide to do a Class B misdemeanor, then, you know, of course, we have that authority and prosecutorial discretion ourselves. JUDGE HENNEKE: I don't think a motion is required to ask him to investigate and report back to us. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All right. We're not actually saying go charge at this moment. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is there any advantage to having it on record that -- I mean, to get the trail or -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's kind of what I was thinking, too. Sort of sets the stage, doesn't it? JUDGE HENNEKE: Fire away. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. 78 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 2. 29 2_` COMMISSIONER LETZ: What are you moving? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Authorizing the County Attorney to investigate the -- hold on -- investigate the possible manufactured home rental community on Ranchero Road. That's enough. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court instruct the County Attorney's office to investigate the possible manufactured home rental community on the Wayne Barney property on Ranchero Road and report back to the Commissioners Court with the recommendation at our next regularly scheduled meeting, which is September 10th. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number 10, consider and discuss approving the resolution to make formal application for membership in the West Texas County Judges and Commissioners Association. Commissioner Baldwin. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, Judge. I asked Commissioner Williams to please put together a resolution requesting the West Texas Judges and 79 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1°. 2C 21 2L 2. 2~ 2` Commissioners Association to accept our County into their membership, and he put together this resolution for us. And, Commissioner Williams, thank you very much; a job well done. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You're welcome. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It -- it's because of, as he states here, communities of interest and similar problems, we're more related to the west Texas people than -- than we are the south Texas people. And, just like Region J, when we put it together, it was just -- we just had more things in common with those people west of us than we did south of us. So, I'm requesting that you approve this resolution requesting formal application for membership to the West Texas Association. And, the court order in here -- or in the -- somewhere, it says that the County Judge is going to send it. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The last "Resolved." COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. County Judge is authorized to forward a copy of this resolution. But if you will allow me to do that, I will fax it to Judge Field out in west Texas tomorrow. He's expecting it. So -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Is that a motion? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we approve the resolution. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I enthusiastically -- 80 enthusiastically second that motion. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Third. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, enthusiastically seconded by Commissioner Griffin, and thirded by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve the resolution to make formal application for membership in the West Texas County Judges and Commissioners Association. Any further questions or comments? COMMISSIONER LETZ: It all happened because we all went to Beaumont and Pappadeaux. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Find a Pappadeaux in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 lE li lE 1~ 2C 2: 2: 2: 2 2 San Antonio. (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) (Discussion off the record.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Next item is Item Number 11, consider and discuss establishing a Kerr County Water Conservation Program and incorporating a Rainwater E Harvesting Incentive Program as Phase I of the new program. i Commissioner Williams. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,~-~ 25 81 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This is the second iteration of this, as you know. And, the first one, we -- when we threw it out, we had a public hearing and it attracted a goodly number of folks who gave us some pretty good insight and asked some pretty good questions about it, but particularly were enthusiastic about the concept. Picked up on the question that was raised by Commissioner Letz with regard to how K.C.A.D. might go about establishing the -- and confirming the formula that we had in the prior offering, and the response that we got back that day in the public hearing from Mr. Coates was not encouraging. And, after talking to each of you on other occasions about a method and manner in which to do this, I decided to try it a different way. First we would establish a Kerr County Water Conservation Program, and that's sketched out on the first page of the background material. And, it's -- you know, it's not rocket science, as they say, Larry, but very simple, straightforward, and talks about the types of -- of water conservation programs the Court could enact if it wished to do so at some later date, or take some away if they wished to do so. The second part, then, headed under "Rainwater Harvesting Benefits and Qualification Criteria," changes completely the incentive that we had previously talked about. In this proposal, what we would do would be 1 .-~ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .-. 25 82 to encourage rainwater harvesting, and to do so, offer a $1 tax credit for every $10 invested in rainwater harvesting equipment, up to a maximum of $1,000 or the limit of the taxpayer's county tax obligation, whichever is lesser. So, for example, if a -- a property owner decided to invest $5,000 in a rainwater cachement system -- harvesting system, that individual could qualify -- after the system is inspected to meet our minimum criteria and certified by one of the two agencies we're proposing do this for us, that person would be eligible for a $500 tax credit in the ensuing year after he -- the installation was installed and certified. If that individual only owed the county $467 in county taxes, that would be the limit of the credit that that individual would get. So, it goes up to one-for-ten all the way up to a potential of $10,000, or $1,000, but it's capped really at the limit of the taxpayer's obligation to the County. It cannot ever be greater than that. The criteria for the system itself is explained, and it's the same basic criteria we had before; that it had to be a minimum of -- had to have an application for the harvesting equipment be made through either the U.G.R.A. or Headwaters, and you'll notice in my packet, I -- I provided you copies of correspondence I sent to both Headwaters and the U.G.R.A. asking them to consider this. And, there would be no fee for an application. The 1 .-. 2 3 9 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .--. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,..~ 25 83 individual would simply make the application, and what we're asking the agencies to do would be to handle that application, and when the equipment is installed, be the agency that inspects it and certifies it back to Kerr County as having met the basic minimum criteria, which is 2,500 gallons minimum, sunlight-restrictive design and construction to prevent algae growth, and inspect-proofing of the storage system would be required. All the benefits are the same as we outlined them before. The two letters to the agencies are there, and then there's an application blank, which gives all the pertinent information, and the individual would fill it out and submit it to either Headwaters or U.G.R.A. This leaves room for other incentive programs to be developed and designed. In talking with Commissioner Letz, we talked about the potential for other things to happen, some as simple as low-flow toilets being installed and replacing some of the older models. We haven't put an incentive in for that; I'm just starting with rainwater, but that's another incentive program that can be added. Commissioner Letz said to me that there may be possibilities in the future for developing other incentive programs for cedar eradication or perhaps other things as well, but we have not designed those yet. This establishes a program and sets off step one being the rainwater harvesting. So, it's before 1 .-. 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .-. 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,.-. 25 84 you. I'd welcome any suggestions, any comments, any additions or subtractions or -- or where we are here. COMMISSIONER LETZ: A couple of comments that I have, and I think it -- I'm still a little hesitant to be 100 percent -- you know, I think it's a good idea. I like the idea of Kerr County having something to do with water conservation. I'm just -- my, I guess, caution is what the budget impact will be, and how we can determine what -- if we get into cedar eradication and other things, the costs get far more than we're talking about here, and then how do you start saying, well, we're going to, you know, support rainwater harvesting, but we're not going to support something that doesn't do as much good for saving water. And you get into a -- I just have a philosophical issue that I'm wrestling with on that, so I'll leave that aside and just make some more detailed comments. On the page styled "Kerr County Water Conservation Program," I think it's probably easier for me to get with Commissioner Williams later. I would like the justification for that. I don't like hinging it on prior -- I can't even say it -- Priority Groundwater Management Area, PGMA. I think that the -- you know, that should be part of the thing, of the -- to mention that we're in a PGMA, but just to say that we're in it, therefore we need to do a water conservation program to benefit the citizens, I -- I 85 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 just don't like the way that sounds. I'm not -- you know, I think that water conservation makes sense. We're in an area where we need to be cognizant of the amount of water we're using, but that wording bothers me a little bit, that one paragraph. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We can play with that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: On the second page, I believe the actual program, your second dot, it's a -- designate both U.G.R.A. and Headwaters as places where people can pick up the applications -- or where the public can pick up the applications for participation, kind of using their agencies. To me, it would be a lot easier to pick one or the other. I don't know -- I don't have any preference on which one. I think it's confusing to the public to have two. You know, I can just see someone picking up one here, giving it to the other one, and just the recordkeeping on where they are. To me, it should just be at one or the other. Again, I don't have -- really have any preference on which one that we go through. And, the last comment that I have is on the qualification part of it. I think we need to develop more specific criteria. It's -- and I'm looking at this. It's -- well, if we have homemade systems or we're talking about actual cost or -- I mean, lots of things as to how we 1 ,-. 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .~ 25 86 come up with the -- you know, the -- what the amount of the credit's going to be. And, you have here do a firm bid or -- I was looking at the application -- a firm bid or a detailed cost estimate. Now, that may be fine to have that on the application, but I think we're not going to do anything until we get an actual expenditure, so that can be hinged back to that. But, I think we need to be real, you know, careful that we have -- are very specific in what the -- you know, the criteria are. And, I said that was the last thing, but I do have one other, and I forgot what it was already. I'm getting old. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: When you say specific criteria, for example, would you go as far as saying Schedule 40 PVC must be used throughout, or -- because, you know, really, if you're going to have a system that lasts for a while, you may have to get into that kind of detail. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I've never -- I don't know that much about rainwater harvesting systems. I know a lot about irrigation systems; I know a lot about ranch systems, but, you know, I don't -- I've never installed one. I've never used one. So -- but I would think that there are certain components that you need to make sure are present, and some are listed here, as in tank size. Now, I don't know if tank construction needs to be designated. I don't know if 87 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 piping, if the delivery system of how it gets from the storage tank to the house, how it's going to be utilized. I just think that some of that needs to be specified. Those are my -- oh, I know. My final concern, at some point it needs to get to the County Attorney's office. I know there is some authority in Senate Bill 2 for this. I think we really need to make sure -- I haven't looked at that language specifically; I looked at the summary. We need to make sure what authority we have. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I asked the County Attorney to take a look at it. MR. LUCAS: Yeah, he did that a couple weeks ago. It -- and it's just not completed yet. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. But it's something we need to do before we get -- you know, those are kind of the -- you know, I'm not -- I'm certainly not against it. I'm trying to think of where we're going and where it's going to lead down the road. And, when we look at the budget concerns that we're currently going through and worried about, this is a budget issue, even though it won't have an impact in the 2001/2002 budget. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Based on the tax credits, the way you're phasing it in. It's just -- there will be an impact on the budget to some degree the following year, and 88 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 it's a -- some of these Certificates of Obligation that we currently have and are looking at, we're going to be in a very tight budget situation, I think, for probably the next five to seven years, and it's just -- you know, I don't think this is a huge impact, I don't think, but I'm wondering, you know, is it wise to give credits when we're having problems -- even having vague discussions of raising taxes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Which I understand that. But, if we're -- if we are of a mind to encourage water conservation, then I think we have to step up to the plate and do it, one way or the other. COMMISSIONER LETG: And I share that sentiment. I'm just -- there are two sides of it. I just haven't decided which side I'm coming down on yet. But -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Definitely. My question about the qualifications are that we don't want to over-engineer this so that the people who are out there doing it themselves don't have the ability to access the credit. I mean, someone who goes to the trouble to put in a 2,500-gallon concrete tank and just run the gutters from the drainpipes down into the tank, if they have the appropriate algae suppression and insect controls, do they have to put PVC pipe between the gutter and the -- and the tank? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: My question -- because 89 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you can run that to its logical conclusion; you can -- you could spec it right out of the possibility of wanting to do it. JUDGE HENNEKE: Rather than detail the components, I think you'd have to have a -- perhaps a tighter definition of what the result is. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. And I agree, 'cause I think the -- I mean, I certainly don't want to be in a position where we're making a career or a job for someone, and the only way they can get the system is to hire someone to -- you know, to develop a little business in the county, which I'm not opposed to developing a business, but I don't think we should be basically subsidizing it indirectly. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I think there are some things we have to guard against, in terms of design. There are those, I'm sure, out there who would dig a 4-foot hole at the end of a downspout and line it with a piece of black plastic and tell you that's a water cachement system. And probably, under the nuisance definition, that would apply, but it certainly wouldn't qualify for any kind of a tax credit consideration. So, I know we have to be careful about that, and any safeguards that need to be built in to be sure that we're not doing that. And then the other issue, there are some out there that already exist. And, to 90 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 what extent is there a grandfathering? Should there be a grandfathering? To what extent would we want to consider that? So, that -- that's one aspect. I got it in front of you again because I thought it deserved a second look. we've retooled it considerably; we've gone away from where we were before to where it is now, and if it needs some more fine-tuning, we can certainly do that, too. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it certainly -- it's -- you know, it's going in the right direction from the -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Great improvement over the -- and I think once we get a legal reading on it and maybe flesh out some of the ideas, I think we're -- I think it's looking pretty good. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I really -- I like the fact that the Court is looking at water conservation as an issue, something that we're promoting, 'cause I think water conservation is good in all scenarios. I mean, either in a drought, not in a drought, whether you're in Kerr County or east Texas, I think there's no reason not to conserve water. So, I like that part of it. I'm just trying to think of the long-term ramifications of a program like this. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I think -- I agree with almost everything that's been said here, and of 91 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 •~- 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 course, Letz -- once again, if I let him talk first, he steals my only thunder. But, you know, I -- I agree with everything that's been said, but I just -- I personally -- I think that we're going at it a little bit backwards. I think that -- I think that we need to establish those areas that we might consider giving a tax break on, like cedar eradication, ponds and rainwater harvesting and those kind of things, and put together that list, those things that we would consider for abatement, and go from -- go from Lhat way. 'Cause I -- I really and truly think that we're going to get in a storm if we adopt this program and we're going to give this much abatement. And then the cedar eradication program kind of -- that's what you were referring to a while ago, Jon. I mean, I don't see how you're going to be able to do that; I just really don't. But, I personally -- I think that if we can come up with a list of those things that we would consider and go from that direction, make the list, and then those things that we can address. I find it -- I find it humorous; I was digging through the minutes that they provided from -- she provided from last Tuesday, and we had this long discussion in Yiere about the possibility of raising taxes, and six days later we're talking about giving it away. And -- and I -- I know that's funny. But, again, it was very -- very serious, too. We got to be careful of what we're doing here. And I know 92 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you're not talking about a great deal of money, and there's not a great deal of people out there doing that. But, again, the drops fill up the bucket. How many providers for those kind of systems are in this county? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I know for certain there's one, but there are several in other areas like San Antonio; there's several -- there's some going up toward Austin, Dripping Springs, and there's one I know particularly in Kerrville. And, you know -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Could you tell me who that is? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Golden Eagle. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Golden Eagle? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm, Landscape. Okay, we'll retool it again. DODGE HENNEKE: All right, very good. Next item is Item Number 12, consider and discuss ratifying a request for contested case hearing in the San Marcos River Foundation application for Guadalupe River water rights. I asked Mr. Brown to be here today to brief us a little more fully on this issue. Because of the time constraints, I went ahead and sent a letter on behalf of the County requesting the contested hearing. So, Jim, if you would step up and give us the impact of this request by San Marcos River Foundation? 93 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 r-. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,.-. 25 MR. BROWN: For the record, my name is Jim Brown; I'm General Manager of the Upper Guadalupe River Authority. Just -- if I might take just a -- just a tiny bit of personal privilege up front, Commissioner Baldwin, you were talking about going up to Killeen and playing football this weekend. I tell a story on Tommy Tomlinson's Fighting Hamilton Bulldogs. In 1963, the Fighting Hornets, of which I was somewhat a part of, was way out front in the district, and the guys over at Killeen -- and Lampasas was behind us. Killeen was number three, and Hamilton was on the bottom that year. But, Killeen decided that they were going to come after Lampasas, and reported that one of their -- their quarterback, I believe, performed in a rodeo that summer, and which he got paid an entry fee and got a little money out of it. And our running back, our main back, was in that same rodeo, and we thought we were going to get by without getting caught, and then Lampasas then turned on Gatesville, and we got kicked out. And then Hamilton Bulldogs found that one of the Killeen linemen had played in a tennis match that summer, which he had been paid a fee and received a cash award, so Hamilton Bulldogs ended up winning the district in 1963, and only won one ball game in the entire year. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's our Auditor. 94 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. BROWN: But I have to confess, when I was a senior in high school, Tommy was in the -- in the 8th grade. A little difference there. But -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Those were the Fighting Gatesville Hornets. MR. BROWN: The Fighting Hornets, as you well know. The -- the Waco News Tribune was about the only newspaper that ever covered anything. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Whoever covered it was always late getting the story, too. MR. BROWN: Well, we only had one phone line between Gatesville and Waco. On the serious side of why I'm in here tonight -- I don't know how much background, Judge, you want me to go into on this. JUDGE HENNEKE: I think I provided each of the Commissioners with a copy of the letter you provided with the agenda backup. I think it would be useful to have a quick overview for the benefit of the public, in particular. MR. BROWN: Okay. Well, let me break this down, I think, into three parts. First we'll talk about the history of this whole process. The San Marcos River Foundation, which is a not-for-profit environmental group located in/around San Marcos area, has applied for a permit for 1.3 billion acre feet of water a year to maintain a 95 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 stream flow in the Guadalupe River near Gonzales, and again down near Tivoli, in order to meet some -- some previous ecosystem requirements. The 1.3 billion is based on a 60-year average monthly flow in the Guadalupe River in these particular areas. Well, Lord knows, in the last 60 years, there's been a lot of things changed on -- on the Guadalupe and the San Marcos River. So, that -- that is an issue that -- that I think most of us are concerned about. And we're talking about -- we're talking about a flow through the run of the river permit of 380 billion gallons of water annually, just to maintain that -- that old, historic 60-year-old stream flow. S.M.R.F. has indicated that if they're granted this permit, that they will share with the Texas Parks and Wildlife a SO percent interest in -- a 50 percent undivided interest in that permit, which -- which allows then for Parks and Wildlife and -- and S.M.R.F. to have their hands on some additional water in the basin other than -- than the water that -- that Parks and Wildlife would commit, then, to the water bank. The water bank is -- is an organization created by the Legislature in 1977 -- I mean '97, I'm sorry, where -- where water rights can be held by the Texas Water Development Board for future use. But, within the Texas Water Bank, there's an organization called the Texas Water Trust, and the Texas Water Trust is that 96 1 ~.- 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 r 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,.-~ 25 entity in the state of Texas where, if water is transferred into that trust, it's pretty well there in perpetuity. We would assume, although S.M.R.F. has not indicated this, that -- that the 50 percent undivided interest in this permit that's going into the water bank -- or would go into Parks and Wildlife, will probably end up in the water bank. The -- what this really does to -- to those of us up in Kerr County and the Hill Country -- even the president of the S.M.R. F. stated in a news release two weeks ago that the Guadalupe River is overadjudicated. In other words, there is more permits allocated for the waters in the river than we actually have water in the river to satisfy those permits. But, having said that, she goes on to say that -- that it's S.M.R.F.'s intent to seal as much of that water up as they can. What this -- what this does -- if this permit is issued, it has a seniority date of June 2000. That means that any future water permit granted in Kerr County -- you have a reservation in for 5,000 acre feet of water with -- with G.B.R.A. We have -- we have a permit with G.B.R.A. which has an older date that would be senior to this. But, we're also -- U.G.R.A.'s looking at two additional allocations from G.B.R.A., at 2,000 acre feet each, to meet our future growth needs in Kerr County. Those permits will obviously not be issued until somewhere around -- probably around 2015 or 2018, at least the first. 97 1 „-~ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ~-. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .- 25 So, that means that the S.M.R.F. permit then would have priority over our permit. Now, if the flow of the river is such that they can't maintain the 350 billion gallons of water annually -- and, by the way, this is -- there's a real complicated formula that says during certain months, the releases must be X, and at other months it must be Y. But, what happens is that -- that if there is a condition in the river where canyon must be -- must release water in order to -- to make up the delta in that permit, then -- then, obviously, that permit would take seniority over -- over the future permits for Kerrville and Kerr County and U.G.R.A. But, that's a real concern for -- for U.G.R.A., as we plan to develop our water systems on out in the public. It also not only affects Kerr County, U.G.R.A., and the City of Kerrville, but also affects the City of Blanco, the City of Boerne, Fair Oaks, and other Hill Country communities who have some reservation for water out of the Guadalupe Basin. Those permits have yet to be issued, and they certainly would be -- they certainly would be junior to the S.M.R.F. permit. At this point, it appears that there will be several groups who will call for a contested hearing on this permit. The reason for the contested hearing is that the permittee, or the applicant, at that point then must put on 98 1 2 ,--. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .-. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 20 expert testimony to show and to satisfy that there is an adequate supply in the river to meet their permit and any other future permit that -- that might be issued. Part of that argument is, well, the latter permits are for -- are for human needs; the S.M.R.F. permit obviously is for the flora and fauna needs of the Guadalupe basin. There are no rules today that would establish which one of those permits would receive any sort of priority consideration, other than the fact the date of the permit. L'. G.R.A. believes that -- along with, I think, every other river authority in the state of Texas, that S.M.R.F. is establishing a dangerous precedent which could affect every river authority and its available water in the state of Texas. So, I think the river authorities, although they do not have -- I'm not sure they could show that they have a stakeholder interest in this fight, as with those of us who are -- are within the Guadalupe Basin, they are at least interested in -- in funding, I believe, a -- an all-out court press on the -- the application during the -- during the contested hearing. To give you some idea of where S.M.R.F. is on this, they have filed the permit; apparently borrowed $25,000 from someone to pay the permit fee, because now S.M.R.F. is out on the streets trying to raise 25 grand to replace the -- the money that they used to apply for the permit. Now, contested hearings -- you know, I'll put this 99 1 ,^ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 2? 29 2` in some perspective so that the local folks here can understand this. Contested hearings can be extremely expensive, or -- or if the request for evidence is not so great, they -- they probably look maybe at $50,000 or maybe $100,000. But, U.G.R.A.'s share of the court costs for the contested hearing on the -- on the U.G.R.A. ASR well in Kerrville was $895,000, just in legal fees, and T.N.R.C.C. obviously had other legal fees that were involved in that issue. So, since I sent the letter to the Judge and to the Court, to give you a brief update, the Texas water Conservation Association has indicated that they will -- they will try to seek status -- party status in the hearing. The City of Kerrville, I understand, last week joined the -- the Texas Water Conservation Association. The City of Victoria has joined. There are going to be some other folks who will line up behind the Texas Water Conservation Association. The big -- all of the river authorities in the state of Texas and the groundwater districts and irrigation districts and other water districts, all are members of the Texas Water Conservation Association, so it looks like that the T.W.C.A. will be the -- the driving force to pull together the funds that will be required to contest this hearing. I would encourage Kerr County to join U.G.R.A. and the City of Kerrville in making it known that -- that you 100 1 2 .~-, 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ' 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1~ 2C 2l 2~ 2; 2' ~. 2. have serious doubts about this permit and what this permit The other issue that I want to touch on real quickly is that -- that T.N.R.C.C. has already approved the form of this permit, and without this -- without this contested hearing, under the T.N.R.C.C. rules, the Executive Director could, in the morning, sign this permit. So, the thing that -- I think that concerns some of us, and we discussed it in the Region J meeting the other day, is that -- is that T.N.R.C.C. has not looked at Region J or Region L's plans. And, both of our plans depend on future water out of the Guadalupe River to meet the water balancing that's required out of Senate Bill 1. So, there's a lot of issues out there. There's one other issue I want to share with you that I forgot when I wrote the letter. Last year, during the debate on Senate Bill 2, there was an effort to put in in-stream use permits in -- in all the rivers in the state of Texas, and both the House and the Senate Natural Resources Committees took that out of Senate Bill 2, with the agreement with the environmentalists that they would hold -- in the interim between the two biannual sessions, that they would hold public hearings and gather information as to the benefit or lack of benefit from in-stream permits. So, there's some political issues out there that -- that I •^- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 101 think that will occur. I think that the first thing we have to do now is we have to slow this permit down in order for all of us to take a look at it, and for all of us to -- to -- those of us who can get standing to testify on behalf of our communities and what this permit could do to our water availability. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Couple questions, Jim. MR. BROWN: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did the Blancos and Boernes join in the protest? MR. BROWN: I don't know that they have or not. I know that -- I know that Blanco and -- Blanco, Fair Oaks Ranch, and Bulverde are all -- were seeking to get into this process. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. I'm sure that they have. Is S.M.R.F.'s -- their primary issue is the flora and the fauna protection? MR. BROWN: Yes, sir. This is all based on a report that the Texas Parks and Wildlife folks did about three, four years ago about what they would like to see occur in the -- in the estuaries down at the end of the river, and these folks have picked that up, and I think that they are carrying Lhe banner, if you will. Parks and Wildlife can't get out front on a deal like this. So, I think most of us -- a little paranoia may be involved, but I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 102 think most of us assume that what S.M.R.F. has done is picked up the banner for Parks and Wildlife. And, the other issue -- the other issue that we'll touch on very briefly, and then I'll sit down, is that during the time when there's extra water in the river, there's run of the river, and these guys have sewed up the entire appropriations of the river. That means that S.M.R.F, and Parks and Wildlife will get in the business of selling water out of the river, yet we wouldn't be eligible to take any of it. And -- and the law is not clear as to what they could do with that water if they had additional waters in the river over and above the normal flows. And, so, I think several of us are concerned that we've got some people who would be totally unregulated by the two water entities in the state of Texas, would be out in the water market business and be -- you know, it's that kind of a situation. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Jim, who makes the decision on granting status of the various towns or agencies who are requesting standing in this proceeding'? Who makes that decision? MR. BROWN: That's the -- the office of the Administrative Judge -- someone help me with that title. State Office -- MR. LUCAS: State Office of Administrative Hearings. 103 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. BROWN: State Office of Administrative Hearings, S.O.L.A. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: In the normal flow of things, how -- if a hearing is granted, a contested hearing, about when would you think that might happen? Could happen? MR. BROWN: I think -- I think the first step would be for the Administrative Judge to decide who has standing. And, I -- I think he's going to have to go through all those hearings. Then, I think after he determines that, then at that point they will then honor the petitions or the requests for the hearings. I would say we're looking at something -- probably late fall before we actually -- before the Administrative Law Judge weeds through all of the applications. I'm sure everybody that's in the water business in the state of Texas went ahead with this. This obviously is -- as I stated in my letter to you, this -- this forces governmental entities to start looking at groundwater resources again, as opposed to river surface water resources, if they're not available. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have no comment. I deal enough with this. I've talked to Jim about it. MR. BROWN: Well, I -- I burned out about 30 minutes of our Region J meeting the other day ranting and raving about all this, but -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: When I go to Austin, I'll 104 r 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 hear about it again. So -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I'm opposed to anybody that thinks flowers and weeds are more important than human beings, I can tell you that real quick. JUDGE HENNEKE: What I'm seeking here tonight with this agenda item is for the Court to ratify -- approve the letter which I sent. And I sent the letter at Mr. Brown's request, one, because I think it's important that there be more time to study this issue, and second, because the time deadline for a reply was Monday -- last Monday. So -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'll make a motion that we ratify the -- the sending of the letter by the Judge. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court ratify and approve the letter sent by the County Judge to the T.N.R.C.C. requesting the contested rate hearing on the San Marcos River Foundation application. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Rate hearing? JUDGE HENNEKE: Contested hearing. Contested hearing. COMMISSIONER LETZ: My only comment is that there's a -- it's scary because there's so many things like 105 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that that are going on in Austin right now. There's this -- I mean, it's just mind-boggling what's going on. It's hard to keep track of it all. I appreciate Jim and U.G.R.A., and Cameron also -- he isn't involved in this one, but I get e-mails from Jim and Cameron on a pretty regular basis about things that -- MR. BROWN: If I might, real quickly, had it not been for Commissioner Letz and his position as Chairman of Region J -- T.W.D.B. was up there setting up the stakeholders committees -- stakeholders group to look at those -- the water in the state of Texas, and no one in Region J was even a part of that. And, I understand there were other regions that were totally overlooked. And these guys are supposed to be sitting up there deciding what to do with the future state water plan, and they left a lot of us out. I think we're -- we're their planning groups; they didn't even invite us to the party. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That was handled. MR. BROWN: I understand, sir. I take my hat off to you. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any other questions or comments on the motion? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 106 (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: The last item for consideration, Item Number 13, as amended, consider and discuss an order authorizing County Judge and the County staff and professional advisers to proceed with and take all actions deemed necessary to issue public property financial contractual obligations for the purpose of financing the new radio communications system. Tom Spurgeon from the firm of McCall, Parkhurst, and Horton is here to give us a real quick rundown on what this is and why we need it. Tom? MR. SPURGEON: Judge, this will be quick. A couple weeks ago, Bob was here -- we were both here, and talking about really a couple different ways that you could finance the radio system, and we pretty much had settled on looking at doing a Certificate of Obligation issue. There's a real difficulty in using C.O.'s for counties -- well, really, for either cities or counties. But, in order to issue a C.O. that is solely for cash, you may have to have a revenue pledge that we can pledge to that, even though we're going to actually secure this with taxes. As a practical matter, counties have very limited amounts of revenue sources that you're able to pledge for debt. You do have a couple sources that -- that you do collect taxes for or collect revenues for, but they're not pledgeable for this purpose, because this is a -- a system that is strictly 1 ~,,, 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 .- 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .-. 25 107 personal property. There is a -- there's another financing vehicle called public property finance contractual obligations. In fact, it's essentially just like a Certificate of Obligation. It's an ad valorem tax pledge transaction that will trade the same way that a general obligation bond would for the County. You're not losing anything in terms of your security behind the transaction, et cetera. It's just simply a different financing vehicle that we are recommending that you look to at this point. So, instead of doing Certificates of Obligation, we're recommending that you all would be considering an issue of what's called public property financing contractual obligations. We would -- the order tonight would just be authorizing, essentially, the County staff and Bob's firm and my firm to bring forward all the other documentation, put together the official statement, et cetera, to bring forward to you on the 24th of September the actual sale of the C.O.'s themselves, or the contractual obligations, and that's really what the nature of all this is about. we don't quite know a -- a firm amount that you're looking for on the radio system. I think there have been some numbers that have been bounced about a little bit, but we will need to know that at some point, or very quickly, in order to kind of finalize some of the documents that will go out in 108 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the public market. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Aren't we going to need the number so we know what the payback is? It affects the upcoming budget. MR. SPURGEON: Yes. All those -- exactly. And Bob, I know, talked about those things in general a couple weeks ago on what that impact would be a little bit, but we still do need to know the type of system you're on, how much money you want to borrow to buy that system, et cetera. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Tom, if we approve this tonight -- and I understood you to say September 24th you will be back in here. For what? To do what? MR. SPURGEON: Actually, the sale of the contractual obligations. I mean, we would bring to you a recommendation, final interest rates, final terms of the C.0.'s. We use that same term just for -- but that's a different animal. So, it will be final action in which the Court then would be approving the sale of the -- of the contractual obligations to -- I believe Bob is recommending the First Southwest Company be the underwriter of the bonds, but they would sell the bonds or the -- the contractual obligations, and then you would receive your proceeds about the middle part of October to be able to use to finance and purchase the system. 1 ,.~ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ,~ 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 109 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, you're expecting us, on September 24th, to actually vote for approval of those bonds? MR. SPURGEON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: At what point are we going to know what we're voting on? I mean, how much money are we talking about? Is this going to be a secret up until September 24th? JUDGE HENNEKE: Sheriff, do you want to -- SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I'll address that as -- was to go ahead and start the negotiations for the best and final offer from Dailey Wells. Our first meeting on that will be Wednesday morning. In talking about some of the -- each of those bidders had some discrepancies -- or not discrepancies. Deficiencies. And those negotiations start first thing Wednesday morning. Travis is planning on being present, along with the County Attorney and myself, so if it goes on farther, that we can correct -- we can answer all those and get into the actual contract negotiations that Travis will be part of on the amounts and everything. That's when we're going to have it. The other thing -- and, hopefully -- Trott has told us, and Daily Wells is aware of it, that we want to -- we are trying to get to a price lockdown on everything that Trott's going to do to see if it 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 110 actually does end up being the best and final, or if we need to go to one of the other vendors, you know, as the Court had approved. But, definitely before -- originally, it was even by almost the 1st of September, and I think that may be pushed back just a little bit, but by -- for sure, I think we had a date of the 17th of September for the final thing to be all in place, as far as knowing what the cost was going to be, to where it can come back to the Court. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Sheriff -- JUDGE HENNEKE: It has to be before that. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I think that's the date you had given them originally. JUDGE HENNEKE: 13th. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I don't remember, but it was plenty of time to have everything figured in. JUDGE HENNEKE: I think it was the 13th. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Sheriff, just playing devil's advocate here for a second, what if, through negotiations, you are unable to correct the deficiencies in the bid that you're -- with the company that you're working with in the direct negotiations now? And -- and/or the correction of those deficiencies raises the bid price to such an extent that we're not certain that's the way we want to go, and we have to entertain these same negotiations with Bidder Number 2 or Bidder Number 3 or Bidder Number A, B, 1 ,~ 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .~-~ 25 111 and C, however you want to categorize them? I guess the thrust of my question is, how are we going to get that done by September 24th so we've nailed down a price, we nail down the interest rate, we nail down what we know to be the payback for the ensuing budget, and so we can act with some modicum of intelligence? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The way we're getting that done is by setting those meetings, with the first one being Wednesday morning, with the County Attorney's office being directly involved, and with a commitment from all sides to get the best that we can do before then. If those -- and with Trott being the consultants for the County, and being hired, if they feel that that does not fit within, you know, the guidelines of what the County had put out with the RFP, with everything else, unfortunately, at that point, okay -- and this is a serious risk because of the public safety factor of it, you know - - I would have to come back to this Court myself and say we need to wait, and the whole thing gets put off another year. COMMISSIONER LETZ: My -- SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Which I wouldn't want to do. Now, the other thing -- one thing that I would like to also bring up, I have -- and I know that Tommy had planned, in this next budget, some funds that we thought were going to be needed for -- the maintenance and lease fees for the 112 1 .-~ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ,-~ 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ,~ 25 first year. But one thing I'm wondering, before we take those out, since we've -- we talked, and in talking with Trott today, even figured out that's not needed until the final price on this -- is for grants to also help pay for the system. Now, whatever these obligation-type deals are, I hope that if we can apply for a grant, you know, we can put that to the paying back, if we receive those grants, of this total cost. The other thing in that, with the funds, before it gets totally cut out of the deal, any of these type of grants that we have found so far have a matching amount. So, I don't know -- you know, you've got to have money to apply for money, just about the way it is. But no, we definitely intend on having this thing done. It's just way too -- too important. This Court, even before I became Sheriff, started working on this project three years ago. And -- and, you know, I can show y'all some -- some video tapes of officers in situations where it's a miracle this County hasn't had an officer killed because of it. And, it is the type of situation where I think us, I think Trott, I think the County Attorney's office, are going to do everything we can do to get the best system that we can possibly get at the best price we can get it, and meet all the Court's deadlines that need to be met for this budget 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 zs 113 season. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't -- I don't see -- if we don't have the final answer to -- the 24th, I don't see how we can meet those deadlines. JUDGE HENNEKE: We can't by the 24th, but the 24th is the deadline that we have to authorize the sale of the obligation. We've got to have the final number by -- I think it was the 13th, somewhere in the neighborhood of the 13th of September, in order to meet the time frame -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: For the budget. JUDGE HENNEKE: -- to have the budget hearings, pass the tax rate, and approve the budget. And I went over that in great detail with the Trott people, and I am told that the Trott people have gone over that with Daily Wells, and Daily Wells people have said no problem, we can do that. We -- you know, we're in this time crunch; we don't have any choice. You know, we -- and it's kind of an interesting dilemma. We extended the time for the bids by two months, which we knew at the time when we talked about it, it was going to put us in a real budget time crunch. But, in that two -- in that two-month period, Daily Wells came in. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. JUDGE HENNEKE: So, had we not extended the -- time frame, we would not be in a position to 114 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 T 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 negotiate with the preferred vendor, according to the three bids that were -- that were received. So, it's kind of a catch-22. So, now that we've done this exercise, we have ourselves in a period where we are really scrambling to make up for lost time, and pushing as hard as we can on all fronts in order to get the information we need in order to go forward. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And, according to Daily after they walked out of the courtroom, Trott had told them we really -- and that the Judge really wanted this done, and we needed some final deals; get the deficiencies taken care of, get a final price, get the contract pretty well where the County Attorney can look at and County Judge can talk about by the 1st of September. So, once this meeting starts Wednesday morning, okay -- although we've got Commissioners Court Wednesday afternoon, which I'll be back for and the County Attorney himself, but Travis is staying up there to work on that part of it. Now, it may go on through Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday; I don't know. But, Daily Wells and Trott and us have all agreed that this thing has to be done immediately, but we have to have everybody's attorneys involved to get the best that we can get. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, my only concern 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 115 or hesitancy right now is our language on the agenda, and I'm sure that you're going to be able to explain it to me so that I'll feel better about it, but it says to authorize the Judge, staff, and professional advisers to proceed with and take all action deemed necessary to issue those obligations for the purpose -- and it just -- I don't know. Maybe I just have a -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, the -- you make a good point, Commissioner. And what's really missing in this is the last step, which is we have to raise our hands and say yes. MR. SPURGEON: Yes. JUDGE HENNEKE: We issue it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I understand that. That's the reason I asked the question. JUDGE HENNEKE: That's what it says, and the resolution actually says take all actions necessary to plan, develop, and implement a program to issue a series -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That sounds a lot better. JUDGE HENNEKE: Does not give anyone the authority to actually issue them until we come back before the Court for final approval. Is that right, Tom? MR. SPURGEON: That's absolutely right, yes. Comes back to you for final approval, certainly. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 116 JUDGE HENNEKE: But in order to keep ourselves in the game, we have to do this tonight. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I had the same concern. That's the reason I read it again, until I found the "to implement," that last paragraph. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: On Page 2 of the document, Judge, where it talks about that we passed and approved by the Court, this date, in regular meeting, should that not be "special meeting"? MR. SPURGEON: It should be, right. That was my error, that we'll change that to -- I guess, Judge, I'm -- I've been hearing you refer to this as a special regular meeting tonight. JUDGE HENNEKE: It's a regular special meeting. MR. SPURGEON: Regular special meeting. One of those two ways I'm hearing that, so it's a -- and I understand the distinction. I mean, this is a regular meeting of your -- JUDGE HENNEKE: This -- it's a special meeting. The regular meeting is the first one. MR. SPURGEON: But you regularly meet. JUDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, we meet regularly, but it's a special meeting. MR. SPURGEON: And part of the distinction 117 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that's important for that is that, as you well know, counties cannot levy a tax except at a regular meeting. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's right. MR. SPURGEON: But there is an exception that you are allowed to levy a tax, and you will be, quote, levying a tax on the 24th in terms of obligating the County to be levying a tax for these contractual obligations, but you will be doing that at a meeting that is regularly scheduled. And, there's a provision in the law that says so long as you regularly meet, you're allowed to -- on a particular day of the month, and you do apparently meet the second and fourth Mondays, and you're allowed to do anything at that meeting that you can do at a regular meeting. So, there's a -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You two lawyers take it outside. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I wasn't confused before; I'm confused now. MR. SPURGEON: I'm sorry, didn't mean to do that. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. JUDGE HENNEKE: Go for it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You need a motion? JUDGE HENNEKE: We need a motion to adopt the order. 118 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved. No, we -- I'll make a motion that we -- let me see that. What's the other one? COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's got that one. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'll make a motion that we -- that we authorize the County Judge and County staff and professional advisers to proceed with all actions required to issue public property finance contractual obligations to finance the new radio communications system. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court authorize the aforesaid order. Any further questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. At long last, we are adjourned. I'll remind every one of our meeting at 1:30 Wednesday afternoon. (Commissioners Court adjourned at 9:04 p.m.) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 119 STATE OF TEXAS COONTY OF KERR The above and foregoing is a true and complete transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 31st day of August, 2001. JANNETT~!PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk BY: ___-~_ ~(~---- Kathy Banik Deputy County Clerk Certified Shorthand Reporter ORDER NO. 27186 Cl-AIMS AND AC:000hJTS On this the 27th day of R~ag~ast, 2001 came to be considered by the Ca~_irt var^io~as Commissioners' pr^ecincts, which said Claims and Rcco~-rots are: 10--C,ener•al for• 387, 458.41, 11-J~_ir^y for^ $31.75, 1~,-Road R Bridge Additional Registration fee for 315, 480. 3c, 14--Fire Protection for- 35,'7'50.20, 15--Road and Rr•idge for^ 317,3E-,7.86, 18-Cn~anty Law Li6r^ar•y for• 37~E.50, ;?7-J,-~venile Intensive F'r•ogr•am-Sate Aid F~_ind for 3~0?,.00, 50-Indigent Health Care for^ 312,303.62, 64-Lake Ingram Road District Bond F'r•oceeds for^ 35,230.15, 70-F'er•manent Improvement for' 34,473.85, 76-S~-ivenile Detention Facility for^ 31.26,83-State Funded - 216th District Rttorney for 31,039.21,86--State Funded - 216t:h District Probation for 32,.;88.44, 87-State F~-ended - Community Cor•r-ections for• 327,475.35, TOTAL CASH REG!UIRED FOR ALL FURIDS IS: 3181,,.,:,1.32. Upon motion made by Gommissioner• Gr^iffin, seconded by Commissioners Baldwin, the Co.-ir^t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to pay said Claims and Rcco~ants. ORDER N0. 271Ei7 BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE MAINTENRNCE DEF'RRTMENT On this the 27th day of Ai_iyust 200i, ~_ipon motion made 6y Commissioner Williams, seconded 6y Commissioner Griffin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•ansfer• 8700. ON from Line Item No. 1N-510-470 Leasehold Improvements to Line Item No. 1~-S1Q~-420 Telephone in the Maintenance Department. ORDER NQ. '_7188 BUDGET AMENDMENT IN JUSTICE QF THE F'ERCE #4 RND THE MRINTENANCE DEPARTMENT Dn this the c7th day of A~ag~ast E~01, upon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded 6y Commissioner Baldwin, the Co~_ir-t ~_inanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, to tr-ansfer• 51,00~.~0 from Line Item No. 14~--51~-550 Major Repairs to Line Item No. 1~-458-44~ Utilities in J~_istice of the peace #4 and the Maintenance Department. DRDER ND. 27189 PUDGET RMENDMENT IN JUVENILE F~RDPRTION Dn this the 27th day of R~_ig~_ist 20VJ1, upon motion made by Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner- Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer 5578.48 first to come from Salaries Line Item No. 10-57~b-1?,k7 in J~_ivenile Probation, then to come from the Radio F'r-oject Line Item in the F:err• County Sheriff's Department. ORDER Nq. c719~ BUDGET RMENDMENT IN JUSTICE OF THE F'ERCE GCT. #1 On this the c7th day of Rugust '.0~1, upon motion made 6y Commissioner- Let z, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Cour-t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-~-0, to tr-ansfer- 'b1~.1~ from Line Item No. 1~-455-3~9 Postage to 1_ine Item No. 1Q~-455-1~8 F'ar-t-Time in the Justice of the F'eace Pct. #i. ORGER N0. ^c7191 RUDGF_T RMENDMENT IN THE AG EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE AG DARN FACILITIES Cn this the 7th day of A~_ig~ast ~~~1, i_tpon motion made by Commissianer^ Williams, seconded 6y Commissioner Letz, the Co~_ir-t unanimously appr^oved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•ansfer- $1,c80.8,5 from Line Item No. 1~-GE8-~5~ Major Repair^s to Line Item No. is-6E5-44Q~ Utilities in the Ag Extension Ser-vice and the Ag 8ar-n Facilities. ORDER NO. c719~' BUDGET RMENDMENT IN THE 198TH DISTRICT COURT - JURY FUND On this the ~-7th day of Aiagiast~@@1, upon motion made by Commissianer• Let<, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-@-@, to +.r•ansfer• ~5@.@@ from Line Item No. 11-4?,6-499 Misr_ellaneous to Line Item No. 11-436-496 Coi_irt Inter•preter• in the 198th District Court - Jury Hand. ORDER N0. c'7i93 RUDOET AMENDMENT IN THE ~1ETH DISTRICT COURT - JURY FUND 1 On this the 7th day of A~agiast 54~~1, upon motion made by r Commissioner- 6r•iffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the ~ Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-~, to transfer ~ E106.c5 from Line Item No. li-4.;J-JJVj Roard of Jiar•or•s with ~ ~Ei2.5N to Line Item No. 11-435-496 Court Interpreter and with X53.?C to Line Item No. 1~-435-331 Operating Supplies in the 16th District Court -- Jury Fund. ORDER N0. 07194 PUDGET RMENDMENT IN LAW LIPRRRY On this the 07th day of Aiag~ast 0001, upon motion made 6y Commissioner Lets, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Cour^t unanimously appr^oved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to transfer ~880.5~ from Fiand 18 Surplus Funds to Line Item No. 10-ESO-59a Rooks in Law Library. ORDER NO. 07195 BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE 016TH DISTRICT COURT On this the 07th day of A~ag~-1st '001, capon motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Co.-{r•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q-0, to tr•ansfer• $05,741.03 from Line Item N0. 10--436-417 Special Trials to Line Item No. 10-435-417 Special Trials and to transfer- $14,489.66 from Line Item No. 10-560-410 Radio Eq~-iipment to Line Item Nn. 10-435-417 Special Trials in the 016th District Co~ar•t and to tr•ansfer• 86,547.50 fr•oin Line Item No. 1~-436-400 Coy-irt Appointed Rttor•ney to Line Item No. ^ 10-435--400 Co~art Appointed Attorney in the '016th District Coi_ir-t. ORDER N0. 07196 BUDGET RMENDMENT IN 'iHE COUNTY COURT RT LRW RND THE COUNTY COURT On this the 07th day of Rug~ast 00G1, upon motion made by Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer 81,.;65.00 from Line Item No. iVJ-406--40'0 Court Rppointed Rttor-neys to Line Item No. 10-407-400 to Co~ar-t Rppointed Rttorneys in Coi..rnty Court at Law and the Coi_mty Coi.u^t. ORDER N0. X7197 PUDGET pMENDNENT IN THE DISTRICT CLERk: On this the 7th day of August c~u~l, upon motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Coiar~t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer X500.00 from Line Item No. 10-45~-311 Rhotocopy Supplies to Line Item No. 10--450-310 Office S~_ipplies in the District Clerk's office. DRDER N0. '7198 BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE ROAD AND RRID6E DEPARTMENT Dn this the ^c7th day of Rug~_ist c001, upon motion made by Commissioner l_etz, seconded by Commissioner^ 6r^iffin, the Court ~_inanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer S1,4c4.00 fr^om Line Stem No. 15-E11-480 Ins~_irance-Vehicles to Line Item No. 15-E00-440 Utilities in the Road and Fridge Depar^t ment. ORDER N0. 27133 PUDGET AMENDMENT IN NONDEF'ARTMENTRL. - CAp'ITRL OUTLAY AND NONDEGARTMENTAL - COMGUTER SOFTWARE AND LATE RILL On this the 27th day of August 2001, upon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded 6y Commissioner Let z, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer $2,435.00 from Line Item No. 10-403-562 Nondepar•tmental -Computer- Software to Lirre Item No. 10-409-570 Nondepar•tinental Capital Outlay in Nondepartmental and approval of late bill to The Software Group in the amount of ^ $2,495.00. The County Treasurer and County Auditor are hereby author-iced to write a hand check in 'the amount of $2,435.00 to The Software Group. ORDER NO. c7c0fn BUDGET RNENDNENT IN THE COURT COLLECTIONS On this the 27th day of A~agiast 2001, upon motion made by Commissionc:r• Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Co~ar•t unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer ~17E.8G from Line Item N0. 1Q~-4'29-485 Conferences and Search pr•ogr•am to Line Item No. 10-425-420 Telephone in Coi_trt Collections. ORDER N0. ~_720i. PUI)C~ET RMENDMENT IN THE COUNTY JRIL RND THE ,S'HERIFF'S DEF'RRTMENT On this the 7th day of A~..tg~.ist c001, upon motion made by Commissioner- Let z, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Co~_ir•t unanimo~_isly approved by a vote of 4-0-~, to transfer Sc,79~.94 from Line Item No. 10-560--410 Radio Equipment to the following Line Items, Line Item No. 10-560-454 Vehicle Repairs and Maintenance in the amni_int of 8745.II1, Line Item No. 10-560-46i Lease Copier- in the amount of 8180.4, Line Item No. 10'-560-565 Comp~ater• Supplies in the amo~_int of 86:).01, Line ^ Item No. 10-SiL-315 Jail Uniforms in the amo~_int of 8118.75, Line Item No. 10-51'~-333 F'r•i:,oner• Medical in the amo~_int of 8:.18.74, Line Item No. 10-Sic-.:i.iJ F'r•isoner• Transfer- in the amo~_int of 81, 466. 39 in the County Jail and the Sheri Pf' s Department. ORDER N0. G7~~c: BUDGET AMENDMENT IN COMMISSIONERS' COURT RND LRTE BILL On this the '7th day of Aiag~ast c:001, upon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•ansfer• ~116.8.°i from Line Item No. 10-401-486 F'r-ofessional Services to Line Item No. 10-401-48i Conferences in the Commissioners Court and approve late bill in the amount of X254.54 to Commissioners Richard L.. "Lar•r•y" Griffin. The County Auditor ^ and County Tr•eas~ar•er• ar•e hereby a~athor•i~e to write a hand check in the amount of $254.54 made payable to Richard L. "Lar•r•y" Griffin. ORDER N0. 27'c~3 EIUDGF_T RMENDMENT IN THE= COUNTY JRIL RND NON DEF'RRTMENTAL On this the :.7th day of R~ag~_ist c~01, ~.xpon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Co~ar•t unanimotasly approved by a vote of 4-@-Q~, to tr•ansfer• ASSJ. ~Q~ from Line Item No. 10-409-570 Capital 0~_i L-lay to Lirie Item No. 10-Sic-561 Computer Hardware in the Co~_inty Jail and Non Depar•~tmen'tal. ORDER N0. :7c@~r RF'PRO'JAL OF LATE PILL TO FERRY D. CORTESE On this the 7th day o'F A~ag~ast ~@@l, capon motion made by Commissioner Let:, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Court ~ananimo~asly approved by a vote of 4-@-@, to pay late bill in the amount of S7@@.@@ from Line Item No. 1@--435-4@c to F'ewry D. Cortese for attorney ad litem fee. The Coi_mty Treasurer and County A'aditor- are hereby authorized to write a hand check in the amount of $70@.@@ made payable to Ferry D. Cortese. ORDER N0. '57505 AP'P'ROVAL OF LATE PILL TO PACK 40 SUP'P'LY On this the .=:71:h day of A~..ig~_ist 5001, ~_ipon motion made by Commissioner Lets, seconded by Cammis.ioner• Williams, the Co~ar•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to pay late bill in the amount of $5,8i5.0~D from Line Item No. 10-6E6-57~ to Rack 40 S~_ipply for• a 50~i Utility Trailer. The Co~_inty Treasurer and County A~_tditor are hereby ai_itharized +.o write a hand check in the amoi.int of $~:,815.~~ made payable to Rack 40 S'-~PP1. y. ORDER N0. 27c06 RF'F'ROVRL OF LRTE RILL TO 'fHE HOME CENTER On this the c7th day of Rug~_tst 'EO~D1, upon motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Cnurt unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q-Q~, to pay CClate bill in the amount of ~850.0G~ from Line Item NO. 7~-Ei7J-JVC to The Flame Center for req~_tired deposit on materials for S~avenile F'r•obation Department for• construction. The County Treasurer and County Ruditor• ar-~e hereby authorized to write a hand check in +,he amount of X850.00 made payable to The Home Center. ORDER N0. c7~07 RpF'ROVRL OF LRTE PILL TO SOUTH TEXRS JF' RND CONSTABLES RSSOCIATION On this the :7th day of R~ag~ast 2OOi, upon motion made by Cnmmissioner~ Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Ca~.irt unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to pay late 6i11 i.n the amount of $150.0 from I._ine Item No. 1~-455-4f35 to the South Texas JF' and Constables Rssociation for Registration for JF' and Clerk for Rnn~aal conference and training seminar-. ORDER N0. ~7~08 AP'P'ROVAL OF LATE RILL TO HOL.II)AY INN SLINSF'REE On this the C7th day of August 20411, upon motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-@, to pay late bill in the amount of `6357.08 from Line Item No. 10-455-485 to the Holiday Inn S~anspr-ee for' lodging costs For- two individuals attending the South Texas ,IF' and Constable Assn. The Coi.mty Auditor and County Treasurer are hereby authorize to wr-ite a hand check in the amount of X357.08 made payable to Holiday Inn Sunspress. ORDER N0. 'c7c09 APF'ROVRL OF L_RTE RILL TO VANCE ELLIOTT On this the :.7th day of A~ag~_ist OOQ~1, upon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Paldwin, the Co~.tr-t unanimously appr-oved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, to pay late bill in the amount of ~.iJ.7J from Line Item No. 10-455-4d5 to Vance Elliott far- r-eimb~_trsed travel expense to attend So~_ith Texas JF' and Constable Assn. The County Auditor and County Treas~_trer are hereby a~_ithori_e to write a hand check in the amoi_int of ~.'rJ.7J made payable to Vance Elliott. ORDER NQ. c7^cl@ RF~PROVE RND RCCEGT NONTHI_Y RF_pORTS On this the c7tl-i day of Rugus+, ?Q~Wl, upon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Co~ar•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to accept the following r•epnr^ts and direct that they be filed with the County Clerk for future audit: W. R. Hier•hol~er•, Sher^iff Civil July ~~Q1 Report Linda Uecker^, District Cler^k July ^cQ~01 Report ORDER N0. c7i_11 APPROVAL OF FARM FOR VOLLIN"PEER FIRE DEPARTMENT CC7NTRACT On this the '7th day of August c001, upon motion made 6y Commissioner Griffin, seconded 6y Commissioner Let z, the Court unanimously appr-oved by a vote of 4-0-0, of the form 'For Volunteer- Fire Department Contract and authorize the County Judge to sign same when presented with a contract signed by a Volunteer Fire Department. ORDER N0. ~7c1c RF'F'ROVRL ~F A NEW LF_TTER OF CREDIT ISSUED FOR FRLL.ING WRTER SUPDIVISION Cn this the :7th day of Ruyust cN~l, upon motion made by Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner- Griffin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, authorize Fr-ank Johnston to notify NT•. Cr•enwelge of the need to replace existing Letter of Credit Number X8005 for• Falling Water- Subdivision with a Letter of Credit conforming to the requirements of Subdivision Regulations . ORDER N0. '7213 AP'P'ROVAL OF FINAL REVISION OF FLAT FOR LOTS 176, 177, 178 8 179 SF'ICER RRNCH III On this the ..7th day of August ,'_'001, ~_~pon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Co~_ir~t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, of the final revision of plat for- Lots 176, 177, 178, R 179 Spicer Ranch III. ORDER N0. '07014 A1='F'ROVRL OF NAME CI-iAN6ES FOR PRIVATELY MAIIUTAINED RORDS IN F'RECT. #i R #4 On this the 07th day of Riag~_ist c:001, ~l.pon motion made by Commissioner Gr-iffin, seconded 6y Commissioner Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, of name changes for• privately maintained roads in F'rect. #1 R #4 in accordance with 9ii G~_iidelines, with effective date of October il, 0001. The Ro<~ds are as follows: Existing Road Name 089E W Lower- Ree Caves Rd S Main St. W Moore Ln. W F'ark Circle Rd W Hollow Rd. W Wren Ln N 0910 Name change S~.immer Dreams Rd W Pct. #4 Ree Hive Rd SW F'ct. #4 Yo~_~th Ranch Rd tJ Pct. #4 Ingram Industrial Rlvd W F'ct. #4 Hideaway Cir• W F'et. #4 Chital Ridge W F'r_t. #4 Jack F'arks Ln N F'ct. #4 Rueb Rd S F'ct. #1 ORDER NO. c7ci5 RF'F'ROVRL OF RDVERTISEMENT FOR NOTICE OF F'IJPLIC HEARING TO ELIMINRTE DLIF'LICRTE NRMES FOR COUNTY MRINTRINED RORDS On this the c7th day of Aug~.ist '@@1, upon motion made by Commissioner ~r~iffin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Co~_irt ~.rnanimously approved by a vote of 4-@-@, authorize ~adver~tisement a p~_iblic hearing to eliminate d~_iplicated names for Co~_inty-maintained r°oads in accordance with 911 gi_iidelines and set a public hearing on October- 9, '~@@i at i@ R.M. in the Kerr Coi_mty Commissioners' Courtroom . ~^". ORDER N0. '~7c1E AGF'ROVAI_ OF STEF' flND GRRDE OF FIRST flSSISTRNT flUDITOR On this the E7th day of fl~ag~ast '~~01, ~_~pon motion made by Commissioner Aaldwin, seconcied by Comniissioner• Let z, the Co~ar•t unanimously appr-oved 6y a vote of 4-0-tD, of reclassification of first assistant ai!ditor• position fr-om a Grade 17 to a Grade 19 and a~_ithorie reclassification of the existing assistant county auditor from a 17J6 to a 19/E effective October 1, ~0~1. ORDER N0. 27'17 AGGROVRL OF RECLRSSIFICAI"ION FOR ACCOUNTING CLERK IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE On this the c7th day of Augi_~st '~~Q~1, upon motion made by Commissioner- Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Co~_ir-t unanimously appr-oved by a vote of 4-0-4~, of position of senior- accounting Clerk in the County Clerk's office be reclassified from 15/6 to a 17/6 effective October 1, X001. DRDER N0. 27218 RF'F'RDVRL TO RMEND CAPITRL OUTLAY IN JUSTICE OF THE F'ERCE F'CT. #4 On this the 27th day of A~ay~ast 2001, upon motion made by Commissioner Let z, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Court unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-Q~-0, to amend capital o~_itlay in J~_istice of the F'eace F'ct. #/+, with the following: a VCR, TV, 2 F'r~inters, and a chair, to transfer ~9~2.56 from Line Item No. 10-458-485 Conference<.~ and to transfer- S'347.44 from Docket and Forms to Line Item No.10-458-570 Capital Outlay. .^ .r..~ ORDER N0. ~7c19 APPROVAL TO INSTRUCT COUNTY RTTORNEY TO INVESTIGATE ENFORCEMENT DF MANUFACTURED HOME RENTAL COMMUNITIES On this the c7th day of Rug~_tst c001, ~_ipon motion made by Commissioner- Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner- Lets, the Co~_ir•t unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, to instri_ict the County Attorney's office to investigate the possible man~_~fact~_ir•ed home rental comm~_inity on the Wayne Barney property on Ranchero Road and r•epor•t back to the Commissioners Court with the recommendation at our- next reg~_ilar-ly scheduled meeting, which is September 00, 'EVJD1. ORDER NO. ',_7'G~_'0 RGGROVE RESOLUTION TO MRF:E FORMRL RP'P'LICRTION FOR MEMBERSHIP' IN THE WEST TEXRS COUNTY JUDGES RND COMMISSIONERS RSSN. On this the '7th day of R~ay~ast c0~1, upon motion made by Commissioner Raldwi.n, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Co~_irt ~.~nanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, r-esol~ation to make formal application for membership to the West Texas Co~_inty Judges and Commissioners Rssoci.ation. ORDER N0. c72'~1 RE'P'ROVE RRTIFYING REG!UEST FOR CONTESTED CRSE HERRING IN SRN MRRCOS RIVER FOUNDRTION RGF'LICRTION FOR GURDRL_UGE RIVER WRTER RIGHTS On this the c7th day of R~ag~ast X001, upon motion made 6y Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Coui^i. ~_manimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, ratify and approve the letter sent by the Co~_~nty Judye to the T. N. R. C. C. requesting the contested rate hearing on San Marcos River Fn~andation Replication. ORDER N0. ^c 72~'c RF'PROVRL OF ORDER RUTI-iORIZING F'UBLICRTION OF NOTICE OF INTENTION TD ISSUE N.ERR COUNTY, TEXRS, CERTIFICRTES ^F OBLIGRTION On this the 'G7th day of Rugust :'0Q~1, capon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Cammissioner• Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-a-0, to author-ize the County Judge and the County's Staff and professional advisers to proceed with all actions r•eyuired to issue p~a6lic pr•oper•ty finance contractual obligations to finance the new radio communications system.