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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Regular Session
Monday, September 10, 2001
9:00 a.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas
PRESENT: FREDERICK L. HENNEKE, Kerr County Judge
H.A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2
JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
LARRY GRIFFIN, Commissioner Pct. 4
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1.1	Pay Bills .2%.2c~7	8 272Z'l
1 . 2	Budget Amendments oZ'J~.tB ~ 2~~3~	8
1.3	Late Bills o17a.3y	__
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1.5	Approve and Accept Monthly Reports a'Ja.3$	17
2.1	Allowing scheduled projects done after Sept. 30	
	to be paid out of FY 2000/2001 budget /~fSG.$s%oh	17
2.2	Credit card for Kerr County Sheriff's Dept. 17%sewssr	.~g
2.3	Discuss 2001 LLEBG grant, set public hearing ~l'1a39	47
2.9	Allocation of residual funds from Lake Ingram	
	Estates Road District bond, adoption of tax rate	
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2.6	Set price for purchase of copies of proposed	
	budget from County Clerk ~7~5/.2	63
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On Monday, September 10, 2001, at 9 o'clock a.m., a regular
meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in
the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County CourChouse,
Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in
open court:
P R O C E E D I N G S
JUDGE HENNEKE: Good morning, everyone. It's
9 o'clock in the morning on Monday, September 10, Year 2001.
I will call to order this regular meeting of the Kerr County
Commissioners Court. Who has the honors this morning?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I believe I do.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All right. Commissioner
Williams?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Please join me in a
prayer and pledge of allegiance to the flag.
(Prayer and pledge of allegiance.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. At this time, any
citizen wishing to address the Court on an item not listed
on the regular agenda may come forth and do so. Is there
any citizen who would like to address the Court on an item
not listed on the regular agenda?
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: One more time, is there any
citizen in the courtroom who would like to address the Court
on an item not listed on the regular agenda? If not, we'll
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move into the Commissioners' comments, and we'll start with
Commissioner Williams.
- - -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSt I'-mgoing-to-yield-my -
time to Commissioner Baldwin, so he can give us all the
details about the Tivy come-from-behind victory on Friday
night.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I've got the
stats.
(Laughter.)
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, thank you. I
won't do that, but we won. We won. It was a come-from-
behind; it was pretty scary, but it was a fairly good ball
game, Jon. First game out. This next -- this coming
Thursday, we travel to Austin to play over there, so things
are going to get better and better as we go along. My only
other comment that I have is that tomorrow at 3 p.m., I
wanted to alert the courthouse family that State
Representative Kenn George will be coming through the
courthouse to say hello to everyone. I think he's a -- a
candidate for Land Commissioner, I believe. So, that's
3 o'clock tomorrow afternoon. And they have requested that
Commissioners Court be here, and I'm sure some of us will,
but they will go to -- from office to office, just to
introduce themselves and say hello. And, that's all I have.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. Commissioner
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Williams?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No comments.
JDDGE HENNEKE: Jonathan?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Only one thing. I'd just
like to welcome back to the courtroom today Gene Ritchie; I
saw him out in the hall and he's been absent for a long
time. He's a longtime court watcher, recovering from
surgery, I understand. Welcome back.
MR. RITCHIE: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Larry?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I just want to say
that everybody has done a great job, I think, of getting
trash piles burned, brush piles burned. And I think, if we
keep things up, we can look at perhaps lifting the burn ban
-- well, I guess we won't meet now until --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Monday.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- until the 24th, and
that's when it expires, but things are looking pretty good
out there. I've talked with the fire departments out in
Precinct 4, and I know that there are very few burn piles
still left. So, we've done very well in this area. That's
all, Judge.
JUDGE HENNEKE: As it should be. Along the
lines of what Commissioner Baldwin said, our new -- our new
prospective state senator, Troy Fraser, will be here on
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Wednesday morning. He'll be in the courthouse about a
little before 10:00. He'd like to meet with as many of the
Commissioners and other elected officials as possible.
There are -- at his request, we've extended an invitation to
members of the City Council and other elected officials and
community leaders to meet with Senator Fraser at about
10 o'clock, but he'll be here shortly before 10:00 to meet
with as many of the Commissioners as are available, as well
as other elected officials throughout the courthouse. So,
anyone who has the time, come down and say hello to our new
state senator, Senator Troy Fraser from Marble Falls. And,
I will remind everyone of our budget hearing a week from
today, starting at 10 o'clock. Ten o'clock is the public
hearing on the elected officials' salary increases; 10:30,
the hearing on the budget; and 11 o'clock, the hearing on
the tax rate. Those will be public hearings only. We will
not schedule any action on those. The action will be
scheduled at our regular meeting on September 24th. So,
anyone with any concerns, keep that in mind for next week.
Okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I do have one other
comment, and I almost forgot this; I spend so much time on
it. CPAC, which is the -- the City's long-range planning
I committee, which I represent the Court on, there is a town
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coming -- this is going to be kind of what's been done, kind
of from the beginning till now. Kind of a -- I guess a
checkpoint, from the City standpoint, with the community to
make sure that everyone's kind of going on track. We've had
-- we had a public -- or town forum kind of public meeting
in May, and a lot of -- received a lot of input, and this is
just kind of a check on that to make sure we're kind of
going in the direction of what those comments were, and it's
also a real good time to kind of see that direction.
There's plenty of time; it's going to be going on for
another nine months or so, that process. I was put on
the -- or as chair of the Transportation Subcommittee,
because it was felt, I guess, by the powers that be at the
City that that is probably the area where the County needs
to work the closest with the City. So, we're working on
that, looking at long-range routes and all of the traffic
patterns and development and all of that. But, it would be
a good time for anyone from the public or on the
~ Commissioners Court to come and get an idea of what's going
i on with long-range planning from the City.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: When is that?
~ COMMISSIONER LETZ: On the 18th of September.
3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What time?
~ COMMISSIONER LETZ: I believe it's at 6:30.
5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And where?
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: It will be at the
Peterson Middle School cafeteria.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do they provide
cigarettes or do we bring our own?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think you can bring
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Good reminder. Anything
else? Okay. If not, let's pay some bills. Tommy? Does
anyone have any questions or comments regarding the bills as
presented by the Auditor?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move we pay the
bills.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Baldwin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court
approve and authorize payment of the bills as presented by
the County Auditor. Any further questions or comments? If
3 not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
) (The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
~ JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
~ (No response.)
8 JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Budget
4 amendments. Budget Amendment Number 1 relates to J.P.
5 Number 4.
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MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This request is from
J.P. 4 to transfer $93.40 from Miscellaneous to Equipment
Repairs.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 1 for J.P. Number 4. Any
further questions or comments'? If not, all in favor, raise
your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 2 is
also for J.P. Number 4.
MR. TOMLINSON: This request is to transfer
$167.25 from Postage to Lease Copier. That's to pay for
three month's copier expense for remainder of the year.
This bill that we have here is for July, so we have August
and September left.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
1 Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve
5 Budget Amendment Request Number 2 for J.P. Number 4. Any
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You need a hand check
on that?
MR. TOMLINSON: I didn't ask for one.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 3 is
for the jail and the Sheriff's Department.
MR. TOMLINSON: This request is to transfer
the $6,332.29 from the Radio Equipment line item out of the
Sheriff's Office, $3,333.18 to Prisoner Medical in the jail,
$756.30 to Employee Medical Exams in the jail, $284.49 into
Vehicle Repairs and Maintenance for the Sheriff's Office,
$1,236.46 to Prisoner Transfer in the jail, $188.64 to
Computer Supplies in the Sheriff's Office, and 5131.34 in
Investigation Expenses for the Sheriff's Office, and $401.88
to Lease Copier for the Sheriff's Office.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second, with a
question.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
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approve Budget Amendment Request Number 3. Commissioner
Baldwin, you had a question?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes. Sheriff, the
employee medical exams, $756.30, are those -- what is it?
That can't be all new employees.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Anytime we have a new
employee, they have to go through psychological exams and
the physical and drug screening, things like that, and they
get over $300 apiece by the time you add those things
together. That's only two employees.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion Carries. Budget
Amendment Number 4 is for the County Court at Law and 216th
District Court jury funds.
MR. TOMLINSON: We have a need to transfer
$130.73 from the Jurors line item in 216th Court Jury Fund,
$100 to County Court at Law Special Court Reporter line
item, and $30.73 to Operating Supplies in the 216th District
Court Jury Fund.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: SeCOrid.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin,second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 4 for the County Court at
Law and 216th District Court Jury Funds. Any further
questions or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 5 is
for the 216th Adult Probation.
MR. TOMLINSON: We're requesting a transfer
of $968 from the D.O.E.P instructor, $850 to Utilities and
Maintenance and $118 to Telephone.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This is in
anticipation of another bill coming in on Utilities and
Maintenance?
MR. TOMLINSON: No. No, we -- we have a bill
to pay, I think. I'm not sure of that, but I -- I can find
that out for later. I'm not sure, Commissioner. I don't
have the bill attached to this. But, it doesn't say that
it's for the -- for the future, either. So, I'll find out
about that.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's fine.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion to approve?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 5 for the 216th Adult
Probation Department. Any further questions or comments?
If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(Commissioners Baldwin, Letz, and Griffin
voted in favor of the motion.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number
6 is for the Juvenile Probation and the Commissioners Court.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This amendment is to
fund a part-time salary for -- for the Juvenile Probation,
and it's to Contract Services for $780. Per the Judge --
the County Judge, we're transferring $780 from Professional
Services from the Commissioners Court line item.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Williams, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court
approve Budget Amendment Request Number 6 for Juvenile
Probation. Any questions or comments?
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes. What -- what
kind of a part-time employee?
JUDGE HENNEKE: The secretary for the
Juvenile Probation Department has had surgery and will be
out for four to six weeks. Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Number 7 is
for the District Clerk.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. The Clerk is -- has
requested a transfer of $2,000 from her Capital Outlay line
item for postage. I have attached to this a late bill
that -- that I'm requesting a hand check for $2,000 to U.S.
Postal Service.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 7 for the District Clerk and
authorize issuance of a hand check payable to the U.S.
Postmaster in the amount of $2,000. Any further questions
or comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
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JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. ItemNumber
8 is for the 216th District Court, County Court at Law, and
Sheriff's Department.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This request is to
transfer $9,948.25 from the Radio Equipment line item in the
Sheriff's Department. We need 5882.50 in Court-Appointed
Attorneys for the 216th Court, $2,603.25 for Special Trials,
also for the 216th Court, and $962.50 for Court-Appointed
Attorneys for County Court at Law.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court approve
Budget Amendment Request Number 8 for the 216th District
Court and the County Court at Law. Any further questions or
comments? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Item Number
9 is for Rabies and Animal Control.
MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. This amendment, per
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repairs and fuel -- fuel needs for the rest of the year, and
it is for $617.51. And, he's asking to transfer that from
his Capital Outlay line item.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Williams, second by Conunissioner Griffin, that the Court
approve Budget Amendment Request Number 9 for the Rabies and
Animal Control Department. Any questions or comments? If
not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Late bills?
At this time, I'd entertain a motion to waive reading and
approve the minutes of the August 13th, August 21st,
August 27th, and August 29th meetings of the Kerr County
Commissioners Court.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court
waive reading and approve the minutes of the August 13th,
August 21st, August 27th, and August 29th meetings of the
Kerr County Commissioners Court. Any questions or comments?
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If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. At this
time, I'd also entertain a motion to approve and accept the
monthly reporLS as presented.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court approve the
monthly reports -- accept and approve the monthly reports as
presented. Any questions or comments'? If not, all in
favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Okay.
Turning to the consideration agenda, the first item
actually, I believe, was -- was taken care of as a result of
our budget workshop, which was consider allowing scheduled
projects done after September 30th to be paid out of
2000/2001 budget. We cannot, by law, do that, but what we
will do is carry over the funds for it and move the projects
into next year's budget. is that everyone's understanding?
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. It was -- it was
going to be about $50,000, I understand, that would be added
to next year's budget in whatever the line item -- I guess
Emulsions is where most of it was coming out.
MS. HARDIN: We're down to $44,022. We oiled
Hermann Sons.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Are you saying there's
not enough money in the line item to complete this year -- I
mean, to complete it this year? Or we already bought all
the --
MS. HARDIN: No, we have enough money in the
line item now to complete the jobs, but with the rain, we're
not able to go in and do it.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But it's not $50,000;
it's $44,000 now, because of the --
MS. HARDIN: But we bought it Friday, and
then next week, weather permitting, we'll buy more.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Whatever the balance is, the
intent of the Court is to roll it over into next year's
budget. So, next item, Item Number 2, consider and discuss
obtaining a credit card for Kerr County Sheriff's
Department.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is a subject that's
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time. But, I have a little bit of a unique situation, in
that without a -- a totally department credit card out
there, I use my personal one, and that's for making hotel
reservations on trips, trying to get funds for the deputies
when they go on trips. I've got one this week going to
Illinois to pick up a prisoner. Or on all our schooling;
every time we have to make school reservations and all that,
it goes to my -- on my personal credit card.
I know that the Judge has an American Express
that we can apply for that's still on my personal credit,
and then the Court reimburses me for it. The problem with
that -- and not complaining so much about the way some
things work, but I know we've had two times in the last
year, on gasoline credit cards alone, where we got cut off
because a bill wasn't paid in time, okay, by the County. I
don't want my personal credit ruined or something if I can't
get reimbursement in time, and I don't think I have the
funds in my personal checking account, and I know my wife
doesn't appreciate it if we have to start paying, you know,
$500 and $600 bills out of our account and then wait to get
reimbursed. I really feel, because of the amount of
training, the amount of schools, and the amount of
transports that we have, that I need a Kerr County Sheriff's
Department credit card that the bill comes straight to the
County that's not on my personal credit line.
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JUDGE HENNEKE: That's a decision the Court
has said we're not going to do. We could always change our
minds. There is no problem with reimbursement if you
properly get your -- your invoices submitted as a result of
travel.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, our
JUDGE HENNEKE: With the American Express
card, when you -- when you charge something on it, the bill
doesn't come out for a couple weeks, and you have 30 days,
which is at least two courts, two court sessions, before the
bill is due.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I understand.
JUDGE HENNEKE: If someone charges something
on American Express and doesn't get reimbursed before they
have to pay the bill, that's because they have been lax in
submitting the request for reimbursement.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Our credit card bills,
especially, like, our gasoline bills, Judge, go in as soon
as we get them, okay? They're coded and they're sent over
here. I know at least two times this year Texaco cut us off
and we had to get the County Auditor to call them because of
late payment on bills. I can't afford to have my personal
credit ruined if it happens that way. I can't afford to pay
a $500 or $700 bill out of my pocket and wait for the County
to reimburse if they don't get the checks cut on time, or if
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the bill doesn't get processed in time. Due to the number
of -- of reservations and things like that we have, all
right, the only other way -- and it costs me extra money.
This last time I sent two officers to Houston, and the only
way we could do it was I got -- from the reservations we
made before the school started, 'cause we have to make those
reservations in advance, okay, then they send me the
reservation notice and I get reimbursed for that. But the
incidentals, once they got down there to the school, if they
had to call back and that, got put on that same hotel room,
and things like that. I had to pay for that out of my
pocket, because the bill had already been reimbursed, and
the school -- we make, you know, month-in-advance
reservations and that, and it's going through on my credit
cards. What I'm asking for -- and I'll be honest. The
other thing is, if I do it the way the Court has agreed,
okay, that I get a credit card, it's in my name; it's my
responsibility. Then you, as Judge, get a copy of my bill,
okay? Whether I have personal stuff on there or not. It's
my credit card.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You can't put
personal --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You can't put --
JUDGE HENNEKE: It's our policy you can't put
personal stuff on the card you get through the County's
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program.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, then, why should I
get a personal credit card if I can't, one, use it
personally, but yet it affects my credit if the County
doesn't pay it on time? Or if the bill doesn't get through
on time?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The whole idea of that
State-sponsored program for American -- that's under
contract with American Express is that employees can have
those cards, but they can only use them for official
business, period. Now, if you want another credit card from
American Express or anybody for your own personal use, of
course, you can do that. But I have -- like, in my case --
I suspect it's true of the others -- I have a Kerr County
corporate card that I can only use for Kerr County business.
And I have never -- I have never been billed -- in the two
years, three years that we've had that, I have never been
billed before I was reimbursed. And, you can always -- if
something happens that somebody gets sick or something and
can't come in and file a travel voucher or travel claim, we
can always -- we meet every two weeks, and we approve a lot
of late bills. If anybody gets -- and two weeks is never
going to get you in trouble with American Express. If we
get a late bill, I don't know why in the world we wouldn't
approve it if -- if it's not in the cycle for the -- for the
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printout, for the monthly payments. So -- so, I think there
is -- usually, the problem with people not being reimbursed
before they get the bill is because they didn't submit the
claim when they got back. I do it the day I get back. I've
never -- I've never gotten reimbursed after I got a bill.
Never.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, my problem is,
too, if you do it where it's not all on my personal one,
okay, and do it without having a corporate card for the
department -- which American Express can do -- can do it
that way, because they used to have one with the District
Attorney's office that was that way, okay? It's a corporate
card. If I do it on my personal one, either I have to have
it personally and charge for every employee I have going to
schools or making trips, okay, or if we do it for each
individual one, then I've got 80 employees that may end up
having to apply for cards.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, you know, I
don't know of any of the schools that we go to that we can't
prepay with a check from the Auditor's office. I mean, we
-- from the Treasurer's office. But, I mean, we can -- if
we know -- if we know that somebody's going to go to school,
we can always -- we can always prepay that.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We have.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: With cash.
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SHERIFF HIERHOLGER: We have been trying to
do that for the last year, okay?
COMMISSIONER GRlE'FIN: But -- I know you
can't do the hotel and all, but --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: You can't do the hotel,
which --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But, in this
connection, the hotel -- hotel reservation isn't applied to
your card until --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Until you check out.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Whether you check in
or you skip.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: They apply to mine,
'cause I sure get it on my next statement.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Not on American
Express. Usually that's based on credit, but not -- but
it's not on your bill until you check in.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But then the bottom
line -- and what else scares me, I have excellent credit,
all right? And I would hope the County does, too. But I
had an officer on a trip that stopped to fill up with gas,
okay, at Texaco, 'cause we do have Texaco cards that are
department cards; they're not on my personal one, and Texaco
rejected the card 'cause the account was closed 'cause they
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'cause it wasn't sent in time, whether the bill got lost in
the mail, I don't know, but I don't want my personal credit
ruined on something I have no control over.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I don't blame
you for that. But, the problem -- what I'm saying -- I'm
not arguing that point. I'm arguing the point that I don't
see that there is any way that you -- that anybody, for any
card, can't be reimbursed before the bill comes in. All you
got to do is submit the claim. And, if it requires a late
bill processing, we'll approve it. But -- you know, we
can -- Barbara?
MS. NEMEC: As far as the hotel, you can get
the -- a check for the hotel. We have people doing it all
the time, departments doing it all the time. You just need
to call the hotel, ask them how much it is per night, ask
them what the tax is going to be, figure out how many days
you're going to be there, turn it in to the Auditor's
office, and we will give those checks out before the
employee goes on the seminar. It's done all the time. And
as far as the problem that he says that he has, I realize he
has more employees than any of us do, but it's the same
problem we all have.
MR. TOMLINSON: Apparently, there is a little
difference between a gas card and -- and a credit card, in
that gas people -- gas credit cards don't give you as much
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time as -- as a credit card does. And, when -- if we have a
lot of people using the same company, like Texaco, we get a
bill from 'Pexaco, then we only have a limited amount of time
to -- to get those from whoever received the bill to us and
pay it. That's a little different than -- than a credit
card.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Just as a matter of
curiosity, Sheriff, how many gas cards do you have out among
your people?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: My transport guys are
the only ones that carry them. Transport and some of the
investigators.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The beauty of
American Express is you can purchase gas anywhere. You
don't have to worry about Texaco; you can buy it on American
Express card. County business, you can purchase it at any
station that has the automatic device on it. Any station,
probably.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I just -- you know, I
strongly feel that -- that, number one, with the number of
employees we have, the number of schools we go to, the
number of trips we make, especially on a lot of trips, you
know, that I would prefer to have one card that is a total
County corporate card through American Express, that I can
use to reserve all those reservations on, that we can use to
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pay for those meals when they go on those trips. We try and
give them an allowance for meals and things like that,
instead oT' having to use my personal, family dreait dard:
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But you don't use --
somewhere we're missing -- don't use your personal, family
credit card. Get a Kerr County credit card. It's under
your own credit, but --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: It's under my personal
credit.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's just for --
it's just for the payment of it. And we can --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: You can get an advance.
You can get a monthly advance, if you want.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. If you need it,
we could -- we can set that up to -- to prepay your bill. I
mean, it -- we haven't had to do that. I -- has anybody
here that uses the corporate card ever been billed before
you got reimbursed?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The problem is, I use
them a number of times every month.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The American Express
corporate card?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No, I use a different
one when I make reservations. We don't have any Kerr County
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credit cards, okay?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: One reason I'm not --
you know, I'm doing the same thing now, but I use my
personal credit card because, either way, I'm responsible
for that thing.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's a little
different --
SHERIFF HlERHOLZER: No matter what it
amounts to --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- little different in
the corporate card sense, because the corporate card, the
County stands behind. It's part of the state contract.
That -- and American Express knows they're going to get
paid, because it's under a contract. They know they're
going to get paid; the risk is small. They can have 25 days
from the -- from the date of closing until the bill is due.
Twenty-five days, that's two court meetings. If anybody
can't get a claim filed that fast, or we can't process a
prepayment to cover the bill, then, boy, we got a problem.
I mean, a real problem.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But if the bill gets
held up in the mail or the bill gets delayed for some
reason, okay, then who ends up paying all those interest
charges and whose credit does it affect? It doesn't affect
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the County's; it affects mine, my personal credit.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But, if -- if you get
a bill that you -- that you haven't been reimbursed for, all
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rusty, I mean, I
understand your -- you do have a lot more employees than
anybody else and you travel a lot, and I understand all
that, but if you could get the Kerr County -- the corporate
card from the County and it ever happened, I can assure you,
call American Express and they could undo your credit --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- if it was the County's
Express almost entirely as my personal card, and it's easier
for me that way; I don't use the County card. But, I mean,
everyone's saying you have two weeks. well, in reality, on
most charges you have almost two months, because you have 30
days after the bill to make -- or 45 days after you see the
bill to get the payment in. Then you have 25 days after you
charge it before you get a bill, and so you have anywhere
from 50 to 30 days to get reimbursement.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The one problem with
companies that I know that I've had experience with, where
they had a company card that the company has paid, is that
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there is no incentive for the employee to file a travel
claim. None. So, you end up running way, way behind,
because -- because, hey, the employee -- there's no skin off
the employee's nose. But the -- the employee's got to sit
down and fill out a travel voucher or whatever the process
is, but there's no incentive to do that.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The difference is that I
want one card, okay, so the employees don't carry cards.
Okay? And I want one card that is a department card that we
can use on those times, and then we have our own transport
vouchers the guys have to fill out if they're transporting.
You know, we can make the reservations through the school,
or can be paying the schools anywhere and things like that,
airline tickets. You know, all that has to be purchased, if
we're flying, way in advance to yet the best prices. And,
the -- for the trip and that, okay? And --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: As soon as the bill
comes in --
SHERIFF HfERHOLZER: -- then we've got all
the incidentals that has to be done, whether it be rooms,
whether -- or meals. You know, it may be meals for
prisoners, it may be meals for the officers at the schools
and things like that, that I'm having to pull funds out
of -- out of a seizure account and then try and get that
reimbursed, okay, before that comes due. I just -- I have a
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hard time understanding why a County government, who -- who
we run all these large budgets, why I should have to have my
person.a3 credit of -- me and my wife's personal credit at
risk to do things I have to do for the County government.
That's my concern.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You don't, Sheriff.
You really don't.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You don't have to --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: If that bill doesn't get
paid on time, okay -- we turn them in immediately, just like
we do our Texaco. Arid, I know now the Auditor's saying
different, but if it doesn't get paid on time, it is my
personal credit.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: A good example of
what Commissioner Griffin was saying a while ago was, we
just approved bills, and one particular individual in one
particular department turned in four months worth of
telephone bills. Four months worth. That's not the
County's fault, that's that individual's fault. It was paid
this morning, but there were four separate months worth of
bills.
MS. NEMEC: Judge, I understand what the
Sheriff is saying, and I completely agree with him. But
that is the policy, and if it's going to be a policy, it
needs to be for everyone. If we're going to change it, then
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it needs to be for us other departments also. But, a
solution to that is, you don't wait for the bill to come in.
You get your receipt, and --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: File it right then.
M5. NEMEC: -- you turn your receipts in and
you ask that they be -- that the check be paid -- payable to
American Express, so that when that bill does come in,
you've got the check right there. As soon as you get back
from the seminar, you turn in those receipts.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You don't have to wait
to get paid to file for the claim. You do that with your
receipt for the hotel.
MS. NEMEC: And, I agree with him. I
don't -- I have not applied for one of those cards, because
I'm -- I may as well just use my own. So, I understand, and
I don't like the policy, but there is a solution to it.
And, if we're going to change it for one department, we need
to go back and change it for all the others.
JUDGE HENNEKE: What we inherited when we
took over was, there was a Kerr County credit card, and it
got passed around. Somebody would come in and say, "I need
the credit card." "Here." And there was no reconciliation.
There was no -- there was no control. The bill came
straight to the County. No one knew what it was for. You
know, maybe they amassed some receipts, maybe they didn't,
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but it was just a credit card out there floating around the
employees, and that was unacceptable, which is why we went
to the current situation. The argument that you may not get
reimbursed in time and make a payment really is specious,
because that's a management issue. I mean, I went to the
TAC Post-Legislative Conference, turned in my receipts the
day I got back; I put the check in my drawer and I held the
check for 17 days before the bill came in. Which means I
had the check 42 days before the bill had to be paid. Now,
it's a little more difficult when you're operating an office
like yours, but you can put some controls on there. If
somebody goes out on a trip and they don't have receipts in
within three days, then --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The difference is.
your -- your card you have in your name is yours. Okay?
Mine, in my name, I will be giving to 80-some-odd employees
to go out and use -- that's on my personal credit -- and get
those bills. I can -- it's a control issue, too, you know.
I don't -- I don't think, Judge, that you would want to give
a personal credit card that's totally responsible for you,
okay, to 80 different people to go use.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Probably not. You have the
ability, as the department head, to authorize those people
to get a card in their own name if that's the way you want
to do it.
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: There's no limit to
the number of corporate cards.
JUDGE HENNEKE: It's not limited to the
department heads. It's up to the department head to
decide --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You're responsible for
it. All you got to do to get reimbursed is file the claim.
We can have as many cards -- it doesn't cost us anything;
that's the beauty of going under the state program. It
costs us nothing. We -- any employee that needs a card for
County business can have one. That's a judgment call.
That's a --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Now, which way -- my
only problem with that is, which way do you have more
control? One card throughout the county where the
department head or the elected official knows exactly what's
going on it, or 80 cards with 80 employees you're trying to
keep up with to make sure they're charging the right things?
JUDGE HENNEKE: The system you're proposing,
you don't know what goes on that card, 'cause that bill
comes directly to the County. It does not come through you.
If you have a bill that just says Kerr County, the bill
doesn't come to you; it comes to the County.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The mailing address on
the bill would determine where it would come to, where I
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approve the bill when it comes through to the Auditor.
JUDGE HENNEKE: So, then you're going to have
to keep track of what everyone does.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I do now, but it's on my
personal card.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, the --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I -- you know, I'm just
throwing this out. This isn't something that should take 30
minutes on the agenda. And if you approve it, fine; if you
don't, fine. That's what I'm concerned about.
JUDGE HENNEKE: The accountability is the
issue. If you can come up with a system where there is a
Kerr County Sheriff's Department card, where the bill comes
to the individual, they have to process the receipts and
they have to come up with the money if they don't process
the receipts, or if they've charged something that's not
authorized --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: How --
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- we will look at that.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: How will I know -- if I
have to go to --
JUDGE HENNEKE: That's the management issue.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: -- to the employees and
give them each a card, how will you really know, on those,
who's used what, what receipts I expect to come in? If I
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have one corporate card --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I can guarantee --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: -- for the County, I
gets. You know who everybody -- every one of us that has an
American Express corporate card for Kerr County, we can only
use it for Kerr County business. Every charge is -- that's
made is in the report that goes to the County Judge. We can
give you a copy of that just as easy. You can go right down
the list. You can see -- and it breaks it out by employee
name, that way, so you know exactly what they spent. If you
see trip to Vegas on there, you say, "Wait a minute, that's
improper." Even if you paid it, you cannot put that on your
corporate bill. I mean, companies do this, state government
does it, the feds do it, usually all with American Express
corporate cards, you know, because I think American Express
just figured out how to do it, and do it the easiest way.
And it works. And, there's no -- and you're now putting the
onus for accountability where it belongs, and that's with
the person that has that credit card. And that's where it
ought to be. That's just good management practice.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rusty, you said you're
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SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Five investigators that
I try to --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're the ones -- give
them the card and see if that works. It will be on their
own credit, you know. But, at the same time -- but they --
if you use a Kerr County card, though, or corporate card,
get -- this may not be clear. Only Kerr County business. I
mean, they're --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: By the way --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: None --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: If I might interrupt
for a second, by the way, every employee that gets issued
one of these cards under the state program gets a brochure.
It goes into great detail explaining all of that, that says
that this is only for official business. You cannot put
your personal stuff on there. If you want to do that, carry
another card, just like I do. And -- and I think most of us
do that, have those cards. But, your key people could
have -- your key people that need those cards could do it;
you wouldn't have to give it to all 80, necessarily. If you
want to continue using a Texaco card or whatever it is you
do for gasoline, that may be -- maybe that suffices for
that. But, for the problem you're trying to solve, I think
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-- and it shouldn't be on your card. That's -- I agree with
that part of it. It shouldn't be on yours. It ought to be
on the person who is responsible that has to be accountable.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Larry, can't that
American Express account be set up so that the Sheriff's
Department can have a kind of a subset of the -- of the one
that the Judge gets?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: ThaC would show the
Sheriff, Chief Deputy's, if you chose that, Chief Jailer,
and however many of the transport people you wanted. I
don't think you want to issue 80 cards, but you might want
to -- maybe 10, the Sheriff plus nine more, something like
that. And the sub bill comes in showing you what activity
was on these accounts.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You get a breakdown on
anybody -- they get the individual bill, but you could get a
breakdown on everybody that has your cards --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, without --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- every month.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: You know, and one thing
I'm totally against is giving 80-some-odd employees that
kind -- type of card. It would be a nightmare to keep up
with. But, with the schools and things like that that we go
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So, those employees -- you know, whether it -- whether I
apply for one of those corporate cards and have it put in my
name, all right, some employee is going to have to let
another employee use their card to charge stuff on.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Not if we -- not if we
prepay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Hotels, I mean, can be
prepaid easily. And the only thing, if they need cash for
meals, get an advance.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We can issue --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We pay tuition in
advance. We try and get the check for the hotel. You don't
know until the officer or the employee gets back from the
hotel what incidentals you have there.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, we can also draw
travel advance -- a travel advance. We can -- we can set
that up. That's not that hard to do. Companies and
governments do that, as well. I mean, that's another --
that's another way of doing it, and you have to just account
for what you spent when you get back. And, if there's a
balance due, you get paid; if there's a balance owed back by
the employee, the employee has to return the money. So --
well, there's several ways of skinning the cat, is all I'm
saying. We can look at all of those, but -- but I think to
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had our experience with -- with the unaccountability of
that.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: My only problem with the
way you're suggesting and the way y'all have adopted that it
be used is, unless we go to every employee that has one of
those cards, some employee is going to have to charge on
another employee's credit card. That could affect that
employee's credit if the County, for some reason -- whether
the bill gets lost in the mail or whatever it is, could
affect that person's personal credit, and I don't think
that's fair to the employees.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is there a -- Larry, with
the American Express, can you get an American Express card
without putting it on -- do you have to have an I.D. number
of some sort? Can it -- does it have to be an individual,
or can you put it on -- I mean, is it even possible for the
County to get a corporate American Express card?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Under the state
program, I don't think you can. You might be able to go
some other way. I don't think that state program allows
that. We would be --
MR. TOMLINSON: Under this corporate card,
the -- under the state system, I'm not so sure that -- that
any -- any payment problem associated with that goes against
the individual, anyway.
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MR. LUCAS: I don't think so either.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Its just they're
required to pay it. That's the only difference. I think
you're right. I think the next thing they do is go to
the -- to the corporate entity. If -- if the individual
doesn't pay, they'll collect it from the corporate entity.
But the way the program does work is that each individual,
once they are reimbursed, are required to pay -- make the
payment. That's all.
MR. TOMLINSON: I think they're -- Travis
bought this up to me personally just a minute ago, that --
and I -- and I think it was a fair argument against that. I
mean, if -- if an employee -- or any charge that the
employee makes in association with his employment, I
don't -- I don't think that the credit card company can ever
go against the individual or -- or have any -- any
consequences to his credit.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: American Express --
let me tell you how they work this. I mean, this is from --
this is all the way back to my federal days of doing it.
If, for example, you're out of the country and you can't get
reimbursed; you've run -- you're running up a bill, you're
on official travel, you can call them and say, "Hey, I got
-- I'm going to be gone and I won't get a bill and I don't
know when I'll get back." They'll say, "Fine, we'll tag
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that. Let us know when you get back." I mean, they will
bend over backwards to make sure that you're not going to
affect your credit, your personal credit or anybody's
credit, for that matter, because it is a broad program. It
is a -- it is a -- it is a huge program. And, they work
with corporations all the time and government entities doing
that. They're very used to handling it. They know people
travel a lot; some people travel a lot, can't get to their
mailbox to get the bills. But, they'll do almosC anything,
'cause they -- they know how to run the program.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, if what Travis and
Tommy are saying is correct, that it will not and cannot
affect an employee's personal credit, then that -- then this
whole subject may be moot to begin with, okay? My
problem -- my whole problem with the whole thing is
affecting an employee whose credit is borderline as it is,
when you have employees like that, jailers that don't get
paid much, and then, because of the County, getting their
credit even hurt worse. That's what I, you know, don't want
to do.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The only time that
could have a possible effect, Sheriff, would be if -- if an
employee used the American Express corporate card and made a
series of charges on it, filed those claims for
reimbursement, was reimbursed, and then didn't pay the bill.
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And, by the time all this tracked back, you're 60 and 90
days out, and then that employee is responsible. If Kerr
County went ahead and paid the bill, then that employee's
got a problem.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Of course, from the time
the charge is made, I think it's 30 days with the interest.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: No interest -- there's no
interest on American Express. It's 30 days from when you
receive the bill.
COMMISSIONER wILLIAMS: The month in which
you make the charge is all -- is totally grace. Then comes
the bill; you got another month.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's the reason we like
American Express, is 'cause there's no interest. If you pay
in time, you never pay interest on it.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's the reason the
State went with them. They wrote their contract, which we
ended up going with.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Barbara?
MS. NEMEC: I would like to see the County
make a policy -- and I'm one that also believes -- I do not
feel that our employees make enough money that, when they go
on seminars, to take their own money and pay for anything.
I would like to see a policy implemented that the employees
submit a bill for the registration before they go; they call
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the hotel, they get an amount that the hotel's going to cost
them, they submit a bill for that, so when they leave from
here, they have a registration check. They have a -- a
check to pay their -- their hotel, and that the Court
approve a policy of a travel advance of $200, and that
they -- we give them $200. They come back with the
receipts. I know it will be a little more work for our
office, but I certainly don't mind. They come back with
their receipts. If they don't -- they've only spent $175,
that's what their receipts are; then they give us $25, we
put it back into that line item.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: You can't do that now?
MS. NEMEC: A lot of counties do that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I thought we do that now.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You can't --
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think we have to adopt a
policy, and I would not be in favor of $200.
MS. NEMEC: Whatever the amount would be.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the state per diem
now is, what, $42 a day?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah -- well, depends
on --
SHERIFF' HIERHOLZER: I think you would have
to adopt it on a per diem -- per day, because some of hers
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one-day school, which you don't want to give them $200. But
then other ones I have, like the two fixing to leave here
this week to go to Illinois and pick up an inmate and bring
him back, that one could get expensive over a three-day
period of travel.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd be more in favor of a
department -- that tkie department head or elected official,
say, set the amount or approve the amount that's requested.
I mean --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Mm-hmm.
MS. NEMEC: There's accountability, in that
they'd have to bring back all the receipts, and --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure.
MS. NEMEC: -- whatever receipts they don't
bring back, whatever the total is, they need to give back
that money and I put it back into that line item.
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the Treasurer --
MS. NEMEC: A lot of counties --
JUDGE HENNEKE: I think the Treasurer just
volunteered to write the policy and bring it to us at our
next regularly scheduled meeting.
MS. NEMEC: I'll do it.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Another part of that
policy should be that the -- with that system, is that the
department head or elected official is responsible for the
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timely processing of both the request for the advance and
for processing of the claim afterwards.
MS. NEMEC: I'll work on something, if y'all
want me to.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, I think -- I have no
problem with that, but if employees start getting an advance
and waiting two or three months to reconcile it, yeah,
that's not acceptable. It has to reconcile -- I mean, I
don't know how you want to word it, but --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Five work days?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Our worst thing is
schools that come up that weren't -- you don't have advance
notice of the school.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We're talking about
when they come back, though.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Couple days to get this
resubmitted to the Treasurer. Otherwise --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: If you had a school come
up in two weeks -- 'cause we get a lot of notices about
schools about two weeks before they occur.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And you try and do that.
You don't have the cash on hand to give these people for
meals and things like that, okay, and the travel. So, what
do you do in that type of situation?
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COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Take it out of your
travel.
MS. NEMEC: You have two weeks before-they
occur?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: A lot of times we don't.
It just depends. Some, if they're big schools and that,
you'll get six months notice.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Sit down and talk it out with
Barbara and bring it back.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: All right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. All right. Did we
beat that one to death?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes, I hope.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Item Number 3, LLEBG Grant
2001 Public Hearing, consider and discuss awarding or
rejecting same.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: What this is, is
actually -- it probably could have been worded a little bit
better. We need to set a public hearing for the next LLEBG
grant. Last year it was in the amount of $11,000-something.
This year -- and some good ways, and other ways bad for --
fund-wise, is this year the Department of Justice, through
the U.C.R. report, has decided that the crime rate in Kerr
County, including the City of Kerrville and us, has gone
down. And, due to that, the funds have to now be split
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between City of Kerrville and Kerr County on that $11,000 --
or it amounts to $14,000, I think, this year. So, the
agreement with the Police Chief and with the -- with our
department, Kerr County has applied for $6,000 out of that
fund, and the Chief of Police is applying for the other
remaining amount of about $18,000 -- I mean $8,000. The
reason we came to that type of agreement is, he would like
to be able to put one of our computer terminals that hooks
into the County system over at the police department, and I
agreed with him 100 percent. It would save us a lot if they
pull up their own information, so that's why he's getting
the little bit extra on that, is to afford to do that for
him. But, we actually just need to set the public hearing
on this. We have our meeting with the representatives that
have to come in and give you the ideas of -- of what to
spend it on. It is an "equipment only" grant, and that
meeting is scheduled for this Friday.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Sheriff, are you
applying for the full 14, or only 6?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No, we're applying for
6, Kerrville Police Department is applying for the 8.
JUDGE HENNEKE: When do you want to have your
public hearing?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That's up to the Court.
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SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: There's a notice period,
same as any other public hearing.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thirty days?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yeah, whatever it is
y'all have to go through.
JUDGE HENNEKE: If it has to be 30 days, then
it's our second meeting in October, which will be the 22nd.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: 22nd of --
MS. SOVIL: Second meeting in October.
JUDGE HENNEKE: First meeting is the 9th,
which is not 30 days.
MS. SOVIL: No, the 22nd --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 22nd.
MS. SOVIL: -- is the second meeting.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Is that going to work within
the schedule?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That's fine.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. So, we need a motion
to set the public hearing on the LLEBG grant for the coming
fiscal year for Monday, October 22, at 10 o'clock a.m. here
in the courthouse.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Moved by Commissioner Letz,
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second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Court set the
public hearing on the LLEBG grant for 2001 for 10 o'clock
a.m, on Monday, October 22, Year 2001, here in the Kerr
County courthouse. Any other questions or comments? If
not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Thank you.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. Item Number 4,
consider and discuss allocation of residual funds from the
Lake Ingram Estates Road District bond and adoption of the
tax rate for the road district for tax year 2001.
Commissioner Griffin.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yes. As the Court is
aware, we -- we -- the roads in the Lake Ingram Estates Road
District have been finished. All costs have been paid.
There are $21,946 remaining of the bond funds, and that
savings, by the way, is a big kudo to Road and Bridge. They
were able to -- Len was able to find the materials locally
available right next to Lake Ingram Estates. Actually, most
of the material came from a property that's right next to
it, and, as a result, saved a lot of hauling charges for
getting base material in for the roads. There is nothing we
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nothing we can do with that except use it in the Lake Ingram
Estates Road District. And, since the road is now accepted
and in county maintenance, I've talked with Bob Henderson
and Tom Spurgeon, and they say that we can, indeed, move
that $21,996 into the bond sinking fund to use for the
first -- apply it towards the first year's payments.
So, I would first -- and I will make this
motion in a moment after I go through this, but I'll make a
motion that we transfer the $21,946 into the bond sinking
fund. In 2002, there are two payments due for a total of
$29,475, so there's not enough residual money that would go
into the sinking fund to make those first year's payments.
So, we do have to raise in that first year $7,529 to make up
the difference. In talking with our Tax Assessor/Collector,
cover any -- we've got very good collection experience in
the Lake Ingram Estates Road District. However, we'll put
just a little bit of cushion in there to make sure, in case
there's	someone	who	is	a	little	slow in	paying or	whatever,
that we	would -	- we'	d	be	able to	still	make those	payments.
So, we need to raise $8,000 in next -- for next year. The
certified net taxable value -- and you have -- I think the
members of the Court have that sheet in front of you -- for
all the properties in the Lake Ingram Estates Road District,
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are $1,744,136. To raise $8,000, then, we would have to set
a tax rate of 46 cents per hundred for the tax year 2001. I
will make motions on both of those, but are there any
questions or discussions beforehand?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What -- refresh our
memory. What was the total number -- amount of the bonds
issued?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: $225,000 --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- was the total bond
issue. There are two payments next year. One comes due in
February, and the other comes due in August, and they're
about split to reach the $29,475.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The rate will go up
substantially in the next couple --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, we also think
the certified taxable value is going to go up considerably.
There are several houses under construction up there now.
So, I would make the motion first that we -- I make a motion
that we transfer the $21,946 of residual funds from the bond
issue to the bond sinking fund.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Williams, that the Court
transfer $21,946 from the sale of the bonds for the Lake
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Ingram Estates Road District into the sinking fund for
repayment of the debt service by such bonds. Any further
questions cr comments? If not, all in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And, I'll make a
motion that we set the tax rate for tax year 2001 in the
Lake Ingram Estates Road District at 46 cents per hundred.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner
Griffin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the Court set the
tax rate for Fiscal Year 2002 for the Lake Ingram Estates
Road District for -- at 46 cents per $100. Paula, does this
have to be a record vote or anything?
MS. RECTOR: No, it does not.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. Any comments or
questions? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries.
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good program out there. Good solution.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Hope to get those
valuations up.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Next item is Item Number 5,
consider and discuss adopting an Order Prohibiting the
Keeping of Wild Animals, pursuant to Chapter 240, Local
Government Code, and creating a criminal penalty. This is
something that was discussed at the Texas Association of
Counties Post-Legislative Conference. Mr. Allison has sent
around to all the different courts the proposed order, as
well as a small summary of the statute. We have to keep in
mind that we -- if we don't prohibit dangerous, wild
animals, then we must regulate them. Which means the
Sheriff gets to go out and --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Huh-uh.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- tag them and bag them and
make sure they got enough room --
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Not the Sheriff.
JUDGE HENNEKE: -- in their cages, and --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: How many rhinoceroses
can you handle?
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Chimpanzees and whatever
else is on that list. Well, we have an Animal Control
Department. It would be up to them, not me.
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ago, I know the Court looked at this at length, and I
thought we did something on this. So we need to make sure
that -- we have until December, as I recall, to get
something done on this. We need to research and see what's
on the records. I'd hate to have multiple rules on the
records. Maybe we didn't do anything, but I remember it.
We discussed it at length. It was when someone shot a tiger
or a lion or something. Maybe it was a buffalo. Anyway,
there was --
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think, and then there was also one
COMMISSIONER LETZ:
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: About two years ago.
SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I don't know. Whatever
happened --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We need to look at that,
and then -- that's my main comment, I mean, to look at that
before we act on this. And, then --
JUDGE HENNEKE: I don't have any problem
tabling this and asking the Court Coordinator to do some
research.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: See where we are.
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SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Nope. Marc Allen,
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2 on I-10 at my ranch in west Texas, and got arrested by the
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q a -- he busted that all up. And, I mean, I guarantee you,
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, the other question
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~ COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Oh, I don't think we
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1~ something I think we need to know before we decide what
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2p said -- doesn't say we have to prohibit them. It just says
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22 I'd like to look at some of the bill analysis and that kind
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2 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Someone's going to have to go
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g capabilities.
9 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But I think we need to
10 get an estimate of what that is, of what kind of a program
11 we might have if we went that direction.
12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I hate to use the word
13 "self-funding," but I would think -- considering our
14 experience with O.S.S.F., but I think with permits, Z think
15 it could be -- I think anyone that wants these animals would
16 clearly understand that they have to pay for the -- a
17 self-funding permitting process.
18 JUDGE HENNEKE: If we're authorized to charge
lg a fee -- remember, we have to send out notices for revision
20 of plats that we thought we could charge a fee for, and we
21 found out we couldn't. And that comes to what, Jannett,
22 about $350 bucks a month? Approximately?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, anyway, I think we
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4 Someone has to go out and inspect. You get a license, you
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6 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I notice the
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8 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If we don't do one or
9 the other --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It says please contact
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12 probably ought to take a look and see how onerous all of
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14 JUDGE HENNEKE: As far as the list,
15 typically, we could probably add to the list if we wanted
16 to, if we wanted to justify it, but we cannot subtract from
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18 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And if we don't
19 prohibit by December 1, by default, then, we are in the
ZO regulating business? Is that the way you read it?
21 JUDGE HENNEKE: Exactly.
22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Could you not -- and
23 another question, I guess, really for Travis. If we decide
24 to go the regulating route, could you not, in the
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could still, I would think, prohibit under the regulation
most animals, and then allow permitting for several. I
mean, I don't know if that's true or not, but --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That might --
MR. LUCAS: Excuse me?
MR. CONNER: Don't prohibit any. Just put
accountability in their hands.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Identify yourself, please,
sir.
MR. CONNER: My name is Danny Conner. I'm
big on accountability, too, and not everybody needs a tiger.
They don't. But if they want one, they should be able to
have one, if they can provide for it adequately, build an
adequate exhibit or pen. I've worked in zoos, I've worked
in snake farms. Not everybody needs cobras and mambas. But
if they want one, this is Texas. This is America. They
should be able to have one, but they -- there should be
guidelines. There needs to be permits. There needs to be
licenses. And, if Joe Bob builds a -- a lion exhibit out of
goat wire, he's going to get charged a hundred bucks for
wasting their time to go out there, and then, you know, he's
going to have to build it again. He's going to keep
building it until it's done right, and he's only going to
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going Lo have it, this is the way it has to be. It has to
be 12 feet, it has to be so-and-so gauge steel. This is the
way it has to be. If you want it, do it that way. If you
don't want it --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Can't do it.
MR. CONNER: -- you don't have to have it. I
mean, that's accountability. Give them the choice. Give
them the option, but don't just say, "You can't have this."
Because I don't like handguns. I don't have one. 2 don't
need one. They're only good for killing people; that's the
only thing they're good for. I got a shotgun for protecting
my house. Much better weapon; I'll never miss. But I'm not
going to tell people they can't have shotguns. I don't need
alcohol. I don't drink. I've gone my whole life without
drinking. I don't need it. But, it's legal and I can't
tell people they can't have it. You know, some people like
this stuff. I know it seems foreign to some people, but let
them have it. Just make them accountable. I'm all for
accountability. I'm all for permits. I'm all for licenses.
And, if you need my expertise, I'll be more than happy to
tell you -- you know, I have a -- protocols from zoos, what
they need to have, what they need to make. I have no
problem at all contributing to that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Thank you. We may do that.
We'll look into it and bring it back some more. We have
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some time. I thought it was useful to bring it up, but I
don't think the Court should delude itself that permitting
is going to be an easy thing to do when you're talking about
this type of animals. If you're going to regulate it, then
you have the obligation to regulate it effectively, 'cause
otherwise your liability goes up exponentially. So, we're
talking about an inspection system and guidelines, as
Mr. Conner points out. So --
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think the thing that
may make it manageable may -- I don't know until we look at
it, but that would be the relatively small numbers of these
animals that I think are in the county that are on this
list. I think it's minuscule, and if -- if that's the case,
then it may be that we can manage it okay. But, we need to
look at that before we answer that question.
JUDGE HENNEKE: We'll bring it back. Next
item, Item Number 6, which is consider and discuss setting a
price for the purchase of copies of the budget from the
County Clerk. Jannett, do you have a recommendation for us
on this?
MS. PIEPER: Yes, sir. Most of the time,
they're set at $20.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sa moved.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Letz,
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of $20 per copy of the proposed budget to be obtained from
the County Clerk. Any comments?
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: My apologies to
Jannett, because she reminded me before our last meeting
that we needed to do that, and I forgot.
MS. PIEPER: You're forgiven.
JUDGE HENNEKE: All in favor, raise your
right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Tommy?
MR. TOMLINSON: I did check on the question
Commissioner Williams had about -- about the budget
amendment for Adult Probation. That $850 for Utilities and
Maintenance is for the remainder of the year.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: In which case, you
can record my vote as positive on that.
JUDGE HENNEKE: Anything else? We're
adjourned. See you next Monday.
(Commissioners Court adjourned at 10:15 a.m.)
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STATE OF TEXAS ~
COUNTY OF KERR ~
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as
County Clerk of Lhe Commissioners Court of Kerr County,
Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 12th day of September,
2001.
JANNETT PIE PER, Kerr County Clerk
Kathy Ba ik, Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
ORDER NU. c7cc-7
CLAIMS AND ACCOUNTS
On thi<.; the 10th day of September .='001, came to be considered by the
Cw_irt variai_is Canimissioners' precincts, which said Claims and Acco~_mts
are; 10-General far' ~1~4,f+':3J.J4, 11--Jury for ~39r.6`.7, 13--Road R
Bridge Additional F2egi.stration Fee 'For ~6,'_34'~.54, 14-Fire F'rotect:ion
far ~8, 990. 00, 1'S-Road R. Bridge far ~8 , 090...9, 1P.--I._aw Library for
X880.50, 19-P~_~blic Library far 429,c46.33, 50-Indigent Health Care for
~67C.8C, 70-f"~er-manent Improvement for' 53,473.66, 83-State Funded-16th
District Rttor^ney far $885.71, 86-State F~_incled-c16th Distr-ict
p'rabation for 5~',061.ia, 87-State F~_mded-Community Corrections for
5~:, 396. 56, TOTRL CASH REG?UIRED, ALL_ FIJNDS: 5..43, 530. 79.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner
Williams, the Co~.ir•t unanimoi_isly approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to
pay said accounts.
ORDER NG. ~_7cr8
PUI)GF_T AMENDNENT IN
JUSTICE OF THE F'EACE #4
On this the 10th day of September c001, capon motion made by
Commissioner Lets, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the
Court ~_tnanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•<_~nsfer• ~9U.40 from
Line Item No, 10-4~8-499 Miscellaneous to Line Item No. 10-%+58--4'~6
Ey~aipment Repairs in Justice of the F'eace #4.
OI;DER NCI. c7:'S9
PUDGET AMENDMENT IN
JUSTICE OF THE: F'ERCE #4
On this the 10th day of Septemer ?001, upon motion made by
Commissioner- Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let:, the Co~..ir•t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer- ~167.~_5
from tine Item No. 10-458-~09 F'ostaye to Line Item No. 10-458-461
Lease Copier- in the J~_~stice of the F'eace #4.
ORDER NCI. 27230
~- BUDGET RMENDMENT IN THE CCIUNTY SAIL
RND THE SHERIFF' S DEPARTMENT
On this the 10th day of September•~_001, upon motion made by
C;ammissioner• Williams, seconded by Commissioner- Palciwin,
the Co~ar•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer
$6,332.29 from Line Item No. 10-560-4i0 Rodin Equipment with $J9,JJ,~e18
to Line Item No. 10-512-333 Prisoner Medical, with $756.30 to Line
Item No. 10-512-220 Employee Medical Exams, with $'284.49 to Line
Item No. 10-560-454 Vehicle Repairs 8 Maintenance, with $l,'c'36.46 to
Line Item No. 10--51'~-335 Prisoner Transfer, with $188.64 to Line Item
No. 10-560-565 Computer Supplies, with $131.34 to Line Item No.
10-560-208 Investigation Expense, and with $401.88 to L-ine Item No.
,-. 10-560--461 Lease Copier in the Coy-mty Jail and Sheriff's Department.
ORDER ND. 27231
BUDGET RMENDMENT IN
COUNTY COURT RT LRW-JURY FUND
RND TtiE c16TFl DISTRICT CDURT--JURY FUND
Dn this the 10th day of September 2001, upon motion made by
Commissioner- Griffin, seconded by Commissioner- Letz~ the
Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer- 5130.73
from Line Item No. 11-435-49c J~ar~or~s with 5100.00 to Line Item No.
11-427-494 Special Court Reporter and with 530.73 to Line Item No.
11-435-331 Operating Supplies in the County Court at Law-Jury Fund and
the 216th District Coy-art-Jury F~-uid.
ORDER N0. ~7~='~~='
PUDGET RMENDMENT Inl THE
~:lEIH RDUL'f F'RORRTION
On this the 10th day of September ~00i, ~-{pnn motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the
Cn~-ir•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@, to tr-ansfer• $96B.00
fr•oin Line I+,ein No. 10--071-1~3 DOEF' Instructor with 385~.0~ to Line
Item No. 10-571-440 Utilities R Maintenance and with ~i1B.~0 to Line
Item No. 10--571-4E~ Telephone in the c1ETH Rdult F'r•o6ation.
ORDER N0. 07_33
PUDOET RMEIVDMF_NT IN THE JUVENILF_ F'ROPR'TION
RND IN COMMISSIONERS COURT
On this the 10th day of September 2001, ~_~pon motion made by
Commi=.esioner• Williams} seconded by Commissioner- Letz, the Court
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0,to tr-ansfer• ~678~.~VJ
from Line Item No. 10-401-48E Professional Services to Line Item No.
lQ~-J7~-JJ.S Contract Services in Juvenile Probation and in
Commissioners' Court.
ORDER M0. c:7~34
^ BUDGET RMEMDMEMT IM THE DIS"fRICT CL_L=.RK
RIVD L_RTE RILL
~n this the 10th day of Septemher 2001, i_~pon motion made by
Commissioner Let z, seconded by Cammissioner• Griffin, the
Co~ar•t ~_~nanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to tr•ansfer• Sc',000.0C~
from Line Item No. iQi--450--570 Capital Ou+, lay to i_ine Item Mo.
].V_~-450-309 postage in the District Clerk and approve late bill in the
amo~_mt of 52,000.00 to United States postal Service, 'fhe County
R~_iditar and the Coi_mty Treasurer are hereby a~.ithoried +,n write a hand
check in the amo~.tnt of ~;=',000.00 made payable to LJnited States postal
Service.
ORDF_R NIJ. G-(LJJ
BUDGET AMENDMENT IN 'THE
21ETH DISTRICT COURT RND IN THE
COUNTY COURT AT LRW AND
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
On this the 10th day of September- x_00]., upon a motion made by
Commissioner- Let z, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the
Co~ar-t unanimously appr-oved by a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer- ~4,448.2`~
from Line Item No. 10-SE0-4].0 Radio Eq~_iipment with X882.50 to Line
Item No. 10-4?;5-402 Coiir-t Appointed Attor-Hey, with ~2, EO.:(. G5 to Line
Item No. 10--4C.°,-417 Special Tr-ials, and wi+,h ~96'2.`°~0 to Line Item No.
10-427-402 Coi_ir-t Appointed Rttor-Heys i.n the 21Eth Distr-ict Cr?irr-t,
County Court at Law and the Sher-iff's Department.
ORDER NO. ~7~3E
PUDGET AMENDMENT IN
RRRIES R RNIMRL CONTROL
On this the 10th day of September c001, upon a motion made by
Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the
Coiar•ts unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-2, to tr•ansfer• $6i 7. v1
fr•oin Line Item No. 10•-E4'~-57G Capital Outlay to Line Item No.
15~-64c-331 Vehicle Gas, Oil K Maintenance in Rabies & Rnimal Control.
ORDER N0. c7c.37
APPROVE AND WRIVE RERDIIVG OF MINUTE,
Orr this the lath day of 5e ptember• c_Q1V.i1, upon motion made by
Commissioner Griffin, seconded by Commissioner Tialdwin, the Co~_ir•t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, to waive reading of the
min~_ites for the Reg~alar• Commissioners' Co~.irt Session on A~_tg~_ist 13,
c021; Special Commissioners' Co~_~rt Session on R~ag~ast ~1, X001; Special
Commissioners' Coi.ar•t Session on R~.tg~.ist c7, ..001; Special
Commissioners' Co~.~r•t Session on A~_tgust c9, X001.
ORDER N0. 27;:,8
RE'P'ROVE AND RCCEF'T MONTHLY REPORTS
On this the 1~th day of September 2~~1, upon motion made by
Commissioner L_et~, seconded by Commissioner 6r•iffin, the Co~ar•t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@, to accept the following
reports and direct that they be filed with the County Clerk for f~..tti_ire
a~_rdit:
W. R. Hier-holier-, Sheriff
Civil R~_ig~_ist 2041 Report
`~ Sha~_in Branham, Systems Administration
R~_ig~_ist 2001 Report
OI~DER N0. ~_7c39
PUPLIC HEARING
LLERG GRANT
On this the 10th day of September ~'00i., upon motion made by
Commissioner Let z, seconded 6y Commissioner Griffin, the Co~_ir^t
unanimously, by a vote of 4-0-0, set a R~.~blic Hearing for^'the L.LEBG
Gr^ant at 10:00 a. m. on ~ctober• 2~, c001, in the r:er^r• County
Commissioner^s' Cour^tr^oom.
oRnER No. ~~~-4~
RPPRDVAt_ OF ALt_DCR'f IOPJ DF
RESIDUAL_ FUNDS FROM THE
LAI'.E INGRAM ESTRTES RDRD DISTRICT EDND
On this the iQ~th day of September EN01, capon motion rtiade by
Commissioner 6r•iffin, secondecl by Commissioner Williams, the Court
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-Q~-0, the allocation of r•esid~aal
funds from the Lake Ingram Estates Road District bond issue in the
amount of X21,`364.00 to the bond sinking fund.
ORDER M0. ~-7:_41
AF'F'ROVRL OF TRX RRTE FOR FY E~01
FOR I_RY.E IM~RRM ESTRTES' RORD L)ISTRICT
On this the 1~th day of Sep'tember' c_0~1, i_ipon motion made 6y
Commissioner Griffin, seconded 6y C'ommissianer- Lets, the Co~.irt
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-a-0, the adoption of the tax rate
of 46 cents per S1Q~~.~O for the Lake Ingram Estates Road District for
tax year X001.
ORDER r~o. ~~~a
AF'PRDVE
COST/CHARGE FDR CDF'Y
2001/~_00~ KERB COUNTY PUDGET
Dn +,his the 10th day of Sep'temtaer 'x'001, ~_tpon motion made by
Commissioner Betz, seconded by Commissioner Griffin, the Co~_u•t
unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to charge 'the p~_iblic X'_0.00
for• an entire copy of the ~00i/'00c: lier•r County Budget.