1 ~•°- 2 3 1 4 6 I 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 "~ 2 5 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT Regular Session Monday, April 8, 2002 9;00 a.m. Commissioners' Courtroom Kerr County Courthouse Kerrville, Texas PRESENT: H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LET2, Commissioner Pct. 3 LARRY GRIFFIN, Commissioner Pct. 4 ABSENT: FREDERICK L. HENNEKE, Kerr County Judge z 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 2I 22 23 24 25 I N U E X April 8, 2002 PRGE --- Visitors' Input q --- Commissioners Comments 5 1.1 Pay Bi11s lp~'~ 1 . 2 Budget Amendments ,~~ yGO,,~~~q/, ~~~y~~ ~"yr3, a7'-~9y, a~.,~Irai~~ 7 .3 Late Bills - ~~j..~~jg ~7yQ9 36 7.4 Read and Approve Minutes 3ga~7~~o 1.5 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 39;~'~~-01 2.1 r_onsider variance for depth of utility lines in Falling Water Subdivision, Precinct 3 39'L"f`~~ 2.2 Consider approval of cattle guard to be installed on Honey Creek Road 44~~~v 2.3 Consider/approve road name changes for privately maintained roads in Precincts 2, 3 & 4 47~1"fS'~~`f 2.7 Consider proclamation declaring April 8-12, 2002, as Environmental Crime Prevention Week 48a'j~"G~ 2.8 Consider approving social services contract with Sig Brothers/Big Sisters, authorize ratifying County Judge's signature SO:~~SD 2.6 Consider authorizing Grantworks to proceed with public hearing on April 17, 2002, at 7 p.m, to discuss County's participation in Texas Community Development Plan 57;,1?So 2.9 PUBLIC HEARING - consider requesting TexDOT to install signs designating by name crossings of the North & South Forks of Guadalupe River ~ ;~ 547 vi 2.5 Consider approving request to TexDOT to install signs designating North & South Fork crossings ~~5~ of Guadalupe River 60 s2'!5 G --- Adjourned 6g --- Reporter's Certificate 69 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2L 23 24 25 On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 9:00 a.m., a regular meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court: P R O C E E D I N G S COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; it's 9 o'clock on April the 8th, 2002, and we'll call to order this regular session of the Kerr County Commissioners Court. Commissioner Williams, you have the honors this morning. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I do, and I'd like to take this opportunity to present to Kerr County and to Commissioners Court, the City of Kerrville, the new minister for Zion Lutheran Church, our new pastor, the Reverend David C. Chancellor, who is here from the big city of Lufkin, by way of Odessa. REVEREND CHANCELLOR: By way of Odessa, Minnesota, Houston, Louisiana, Arizona, but I iuade it back into God`s country. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Reverend Chancellor wil] lead the invocation and I'll lead the pledge of allegiance. (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you. REVEREND CHANCELLOR: Thank you all. 4 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIGNEP, GRIFFIN: 1s there anyone here who would like to speak on a subject not on the published and posted agenda? Step forward. Please identify yourself for the record. MR. BEUCHLER: Karl Buechler, President of the Kerrville Chili and Barbecue Classic and Easter Fest. I just wanted to come back to the Court and thank them Lui the use of Flat Rock Park. And the event was well-accepted by the community. Everyone had a very good time. A lut of out-of-town people. We estimate -- we had two monitors going through the crowd -- that we had in the neighborhood of 2,000 people. We had close to 400 egg hunters. we had 7,000 eggs for them to hunt; it took them approximately 5 minutes to hunt those eggs. (Laughter.) MR. BEUCHLER: There was no instance reported whatsoever of anybody at the event either day, Friday or Saturday -- although the weather was bad that Friday -- that Friday night, we -- we was really worried about tYie participation, but -- some of the vendors didn't show up that was coming from far away, but we still had 25 vendors. Also, after -- we'll get our complete tally tomorrow from our Secretary/Treasurer, Tracy Nix. She's telling me we're going to be able to dcnate somewhere in the neighborhood between $2,000 and $3,000 to the Hill Country "souLfi Ranch. 5 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 So, next year, we're already starting Lo plan. This year we only had a couple of months to do this. Next -- we're having our first meeting for next year tomorrow night, and we wi1L have meetings every month up until next year's event. It will be bigger and better. And we'd just like to thank you for the electricity. It was -- it really did help. We had bands all day, we had all the award ceremonies. It just worked out perfect. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fantastic. MR. BEUCHLER: So we'd like to thank y'all, and next year we'll just do it again. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Thanks, Karl. Appreciate it. MS. NEMEC: Good job, Karl. (Applause.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak on any subject trot on the published and posted agenda? Seeing none, we'll move on to the Commissioners' comments. Commissioner Williams? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I want to give congratulations -- offer congratulations to Brittany Nemec, daughter of the County Treasurer, Barbara Nemec, who came in this morning to remind me that Brittany had won in the junior high -- Notre Dame Junior High district track meet, the 100-yard dash, the 400-meter relay, and 800-yard dash. 6 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ~4 2~ MS. NEMEC: First place, all three. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: First place, all three. Congratulations to Brittany. MS. NEMEC: I missed the county convention for this, guys, so it was worth it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: She's upstaging my son now. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It's just junior hiyh. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Still -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: No, but, you know, she's coming on. MS. NEMEC: Give me his time so we can work on that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Commissioner, I'd like to just add a word to Karl. Karl left, but I'm not sure who else from the Court was present at the -- at the CASA -- CASI event with the Easter egg hunt and so forth two weekends ago, but it really was a good event. And if I had one person come up to me, I must have had a dozen came up to me and suggest that that was a really neat use of Flat Rock Lake Park. The park fit the event. The event fit the park. People had a good time. I don't know of any untoward events or activities that took place. You know, maybe late in the ciiyht somebody had too much beer to drink, but that's -- I 7 .- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1~ 20 21 L[ 23 24 25 don't know about it if it happened. But it was really a good event. The kids had a great time, and it was well-stayed and well -- well-conducted. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Great. Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd like to echo what Commissioner Williams said. 1 had some friends in from out of town, from Houston, and they were staying at the -- whatever the Y.O. Ranch hotel is called now, and they went and they had a great time. In fact, they even had a better time -- I think one of them -- one of the little boys won a bicycle, so he was ecstatic about that. There was a lot of prizes; the eygs, as I understand, most of them had prizes in it. They won a total of a bicycle and two silver dollars with three kids, so they had a real good time; they said they'll come back next year. So, it's helping the hotels and everythiny else. The other comment I'd like to make is -- and we always Bear about the efforts going on in Afghanistan. And I'm sure we have more than one person in that effort right now, but I know there's one young man who is a graduate of Tivy last year, Michael Stebbins, real good friends of my nephew, good friends of our families, and he is in Afghanistan right now and has been for quite a while ~ now. And I`d just like to have all our prayers go to him 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and to his mother, Carla. Good -- good family. Doing a lot of hard work for us. That's it. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I would like to congratulate the Ingram Tom Moore girls and boys tennis teams that won the district championship, and so they're moving on. And also, the 7th grade girls won the district track championship. Now, that's an all-time -- that's a new one. You'11 hear more about that, Buster, so I'll keep that in front of you. And that's the only comment I have. Commissioner Baldwin? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Y'all mind if I talk about track? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS': No, why don't you talk about track? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This week is the 4A district track meet championships, and this is the -- this is the time that they've worked so hard to get to. And -- and at the district meet -- we have ours in Fredericksburg this year, and wkiat they do is, at -- out of each event, they'll take the first and second place, and then those two people go on to the regional meet, which is in Alamo Stadium in San Antonio. And then they take the first and second place out of that crowd that goes to the state meet in Austin. So, it's exciting times, particularly around my house. My soil is pretty calm. I've had a hard time the 9 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20 21 22 ~3 24 25 last couple of nays, but - - but it -- we're having a lot of fun. Aii~ther issue I wanted to bring, just -- it's food for thought. The 911 and the road-naming business, you know, we -- we're gettinq really close to doing everything that we are supposed to do as a Commissioners Court in the county. There's sue more little hurdle to get over, and that's the duplicate names that are -- of roads inside the city and out in the county, and that will be coming to us here pretty soon. And my -- I just -- my attitude -- I don't know huw y'all will handle it, but my attitude is that we should just do everything that we can to change ours. The City has made a choice of not to participate in the program, so I think that we just -- you know, instead of getting in any kind of fuss or contest with the City, I think that we should just take the bull by the horns and change the ones that we need to change out in the county and just move forward. I just wanted to bring that up, let you start thinking about it, what decision you want to make. God bless America. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: To some extent, we've already done that, Commissioner. There have been some already changed. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think a few have fallen into that category. 10 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALUWIN: So true. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Anything else? Okay, Tommy, let's pay some bills. MR. TOMLINSON: Any questions? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any questions or comments? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did you want to go first, being as you're number two? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The good Judge sent a note out last week with a couple of questions. I thought I would just ask his questions. On Page 2, in the jury section, fourth one down, Houston Dictating and Steno somebody for $308. Could you explain what that is, Tommy, please? MR. TOMLINSON: I'm not positive, but I think that's the maintenance on -- on the dictating machine for -- for a court reporter. I could look it up. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's -- the Stentura, I know, is one that we looked at in the catalog. Is that what that one is? Yeah, that is a machine that had some maintenance -- that's obviously had some maintenance done on it, but I don't know what it is, either. But I just remember that name when we were -- a couple years ago when we were looking at machines. 11 I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1~ 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think Thea has a comment. MS. SOVIL: We haven't paid for hers. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, it's for that one? MS. BAN1K: No, not for this one. MR. TOMLINSON: That's for -- that's for -- all the jury tunds are in one fund right now, so it could be for either one of the three courtrooms. I just noticed on this -- on this printed report that the -- that the vendor number -- that the invoice numbers are not on here, so I can't look it up right now. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The issue may be as to who pays Tor the machines. Because, I mean, we don't provide the machines. MS. SUVIL: Yes, we do. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We do provide all the machines? MS. SOVIL: Yes. MR. TOMLINSON: We pay for all of them. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do we pay the maintenance on this machine right here? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, we would. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: is that true, Kathy? MS. BANIK: It wasn't last year. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 't'hat needs to be 12 1 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ~4 25 changed or corrected. MR. TOMLINSON: We've done that. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Page 19, Indigent Health Care. It's a bill for $3,984 to San Angelo Medical Center. MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know -- I don't know who it's for. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I remember in past years, I've asked -- we've seen these before, and I can't remember the explanation, but it's tied back to Kerr County somehow. MR. TOMLINSON: Well, when we have -- when Kerr County residents are in a -- in a medical facility outside this county and they're indigent, we still -- they're still under that program, regardless of whether they get served. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If they're residents of Kerr County? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You can -- go ahead and yell about that, Jon. I see it boiling up in you. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm not going to say a word. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, it is wrong. It's a wrong thing, 'cause it -- I don't see -- now, of 13 1 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 ly 20 21 22 23 24 25 course, the state law drives this thing, but I don't see how you can prove your residence. I mean, you could have a residence anywhere. You know, we've fussed about this several times, but good luck. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it should say everyone who's a resident of Harris County. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, everybody who lives in Houston. That's all, Tommy. Thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any other questions? Do I hear a motion to approve the budget -- or the -- approve the payment of the bills? COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that the bills be paid as presented. Any further discussion or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN amendments. Motion passes. Budget MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. Number 1 is for my offir_e. I had to replace a computer in my office. I'm 14 1 3 4 5 E 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 asking for a transfer of $378.43 from Nondepartmental Mainframe Maintenance to Operating Equipment. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by -- MR. TOMLINSON: I'd like to comment on this. This is a brand-new coiuputer fur $378, except for the box. Shaun ordered a part -- all the parts from Altex Electronics out of San Antonio, put it toyeLhex in my office for this. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Question. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Does it work? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Let me just ask a quick question, Tommy, on this one. By the way, we have a motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz. How are we doing on mainframe maintenance these days? Its been pretty good, hasn't it? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, last -- in past years, we've -- we've budgeted funds in Nondepartmental Contingency for -- enough to -- to handle any replacements for data processing equipment. But, for -- we've used that line item completely up now because of -- because of the professional fees that we've had. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Oh, okay. MR. TOMLINSON: For attorney's fees, for 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ~5 cases relative to -- to past years' experiences in the jail, and those funds are gone. And that's the only place I had to find to -- I didn't have it in my budget, so that's the only place I had to move it from. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS; On a serious vein, Tommy, that's great if he can put together a computer for a third or less of the cost to purchase one. I guess that's what you're saying. If, for $378, he's put together a computer equivalent to something we have or we needed or wanted, saving the County, what, two-thirds of the cost or more? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's good. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's excellent. And when you have someone that's as qualified to do that kind of thing as Shaun is, you're probably going to get a good product, too. And you can maintain it; if you have a component fail, you can replace it. That will save -- that's a good savings. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's why we titled him the guru. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: That's the reason he's the guru. Okay. We have a motion and a second on Budget Amendment Number 1. Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. 16 r 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Ayes Amendment Number 2. MR. TOMLINSON: This one is Judge Tench in Precinct 3. It's a request Lrom Software Maintenance to his Part-Time COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sala secretary? have it. Budget a request from to transfer $150 Salary line item, ry for a MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, part-time. Someone to take his secretary's place when she's gone. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that Budget Amendment Number 2 be approved. Any further questions or comments? A11 in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONEF. GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Number 3. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 17 MR. TOMLINSON: Number 3 is for the District Clerk. She has requested a transfer of $87 from Microfilm Records to Maintenance Contracts, and this is -- this is to pay a contract for her -- for a Canon microfilm reader. COMMISSIONER WILLiAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Letz, that Budget Amendment Number 3 be approved. Any further questions or comments? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is this something that we overlooked in the budget process? MR. TOMLINSON: I think -- I think that the maintenance cuutract was -- was more than what she budgeted originally. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion's been seconded. All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Ayes have it. Number 9. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. Number 4 is from -- from the Sheriff. This is a request to transfer $841.10 from Deputy Salaries to Employee Medical Exams. I have -- I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 18 have me~~ical exams for four different people. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Was this just a -- MR. TOMLINSON: I can't -- the total for these four is $1,413.10. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: This is -- I'm sorry. Do we have a second? I'll second it. Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Griffin, that Budget Amendment Number 4 be approved. Is this a -- again, just a -- a budgetary shortfall? MR. TOMLINSON: I'm not sure who these people are, but I think they're new employees, and there has to be a - a psychological/medical exam for new employees in the Sheriff's Department. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sounds like that he's had a changeover larger than he anticipated. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think this is the second one of these we've seen. COMMISSIONER LETZ: But this is an item I think we aced to track for next year's budget, because I think, you know, we -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You can predict it. It's predictable. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. Turnover should 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 19 be predictable. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I have a motion and a second. Any further -- on Budget Amendment Number 4, any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right_ hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Budget Amendment Number 5. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 5 is for Commissioners Court, and it's -- the amendment is to pay a bill from Allison Bass Associates, and it's legal fees for -- for claimant Lori Ashley versus Kerr County. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Which case? MR. TOMLINSON: Lori Ashley. MS. SOVIL: E.E.O.C. MR. TOMLINSON: It's E.E.O.C., right. And I'm requesting that we transfer $2,318.78 from Contingency to Professional Services. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Williams - who made Lhe second? Was that you? Second by zo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Commissioner Letz, that Budget Amendment Number 5 be approved. Any further questions or comments? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I'd like a little more explanation on who is Lori Ashley and why the E.E.O.C., and -- is the public more aware of their money beinq spent here than I am? I mean, I don't know anything about it. MR. TOMLINSON: It's been an ongoing situation for a year, maybe two years. MS. SOVIL: Two. MR. TOMLINSON: Two years, I believe. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that a courthouse employee that -- MS. SOVIL: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- that someone fired because they're too old, or -- MS. NEMEC: No. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Y'all are not going to tell me, are you? MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know. MS. NEMEC: 1 have the information, if I'm allowed to do it in open court. I don't know. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think you can say who the -- I mean -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's just the public's 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 zI money. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I think the nature of the lawsuit, what they're alleging is public record anyway. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, the lawsuit's public record. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I wouldn't -- I mean -- MS. SOVIL: I don't think it ever got to the point of being a lawsuit. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What point did it get to? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, enough that the lawyers got their chunk out of it, that's for sure. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: it got someplace, for $2,300. MS. NEMEC: She filed a lawsuit, but we fought it, and that's what this money was for, but she was not terminated. MR. TOMLINSON: I need a hand check for this one also. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Maybe we ought to get an update at our next Commissioners Court meeting. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is this the final part of it? It is, okay. Thank you very much. 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1L 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 L 23 24 25 22 COMMISSIONER GR1P'F1N; This is the final -- MS. NEMEC: And we won, by the way. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is this not something we ought to talk about in Executive Session sometime, find out where we stand with litigation? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: finless we know for sure that this is -- that the matter has been closed and that this is the -- you know, if we know that this is a legitimate bill to close out the process, then we can deal with it in open court as a bill payment. I don't see any reason not to -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we can pay the bill, but I think tkie Commissioners want to see -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can go in Executive Session at the end of the day on this particular item. COMMISSIONER GRlr'FIN: Sure. COMMISSIONER LETZ: 'Cause it's not an agenda item. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Would you entertain amending your motion to include trie issuance of a hand check? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And second. We have a motion to approve Budget Amendment Number 5 and to issue -- 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 authorise issua~ice of a hand check for same. Any further questions or comments? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: A11 opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN Number 6. The ayes have it. MR. TOMLINSUN: Six is for Nondepartmental, and I left this open-ended since I can't find money to pay this. It's -- it's a bill from Texas Association of Counties, Workers Compensation Self-Insurance Fund. It's a total of $15,400, a,id it's the -- Barbara may help me on this, but I think it's -- yeah, the audit on our -- final bill on our audit for last year's payroll. Is that correct? MS. NEMEC: Mm-hmm. MR. TOMLINSUN: And, you know, we talked about workers comp, I think, at length in the budget process. We actually budgeted 40 percent increase this year over -- over the prior year, but it's -- it's still more than -- than the 40 percent. So, what we need in that budget line item, Nondepartmental, is $22,387.75. COMMISSIUNER GRIFFIN: And this is because the workers compensation premium was just a lot higher than was estimated, either by Texas Association of Counties or 24 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 1l 12 13 14 15 lh 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 us? MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah, the 40 percent was the number we got from -- from the association. That's what their estimate was, and I -- I think that's the number that we used for budget purposes. But this -- this part of it is -- is the audit on the payroll for the prior year, so our -- our payroll was -- was larger also than we -- you know, than we estimated the year before. You're -- when you budget, you're estimating what the -- what -- first of a11, what rate you're going to be at, and -- and then trying to determine what -- yuu know, what your -- what your payroll's going to be. COMMISSIONEx GRIFFIN: Right MR. TOMLINSON: So the only thing I knew to do is to declare aii emergency and take this from -- from Surplus Funds, but I've searched the General Fund budget from beginning to end, and I -- I just -- I just can't see anything that -- that I think won't be used. COMMISSIONEx GRIFFIN: Does Texas Association of Counties -- do they feel like their estimates for the following -- for next year will be -- MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know that we have one. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We don't have anythinq yet? 25 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ]3 14 ]5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. TOMLINSON: 1 don't think we do. COMMISSIONER LETZ: This -- you're saying this amount is for the audit of last year's payroll. Why was the payroll so much different than -- MR. TOMLINSON: Well, we had -- when we pay the quarterly premiums, we -- we pay based on an estimate of what -- isn't that correct, Barbara? MS. NEMEC: Mm-hmm. MR. TOMLINSON: For what our -- in other words, at the beginning of the year, we estimate what our -- what our payroll's going to be. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. MR. TOMLINSON: Hnd then -- then we pay our -- pay quarterly estimates, is what it amounts to. And then, once - once tl-,e year's over, then they come back and do an audit on -- of our payroll. COMMISSIONER LETZ: But -- MS. NEMEC: What happens is, at the beginning of the year, we estimate, okay? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. MS. NEMEC: Then you go through the -- during the budget process, you start adding employees and getting raises and stuff, so ghat payroll figure jumps up. So then at the end of the year, they do an audit on our payroll on how much it -- the actual payroll, not the estimate. We pay 1 L 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1L 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 -- they base our premiums quarterly on the estimated payroll, but then we start adding employees and giving raises, and at the end of the year they do an audit, and find that the payroll is actually more than what we estimated, so then that's what this is. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And is this on a calendar-year basis or on our budget-year basis? Their -- MS. NEMEC: Calendar year. So that's why it's hard to budget. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So that's our problem, basically, is that whenever we do a salary increase -- MS. NEMEC: Right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- effective October lst, or any kind of changes in the new budget, that's not taken into account. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, there's another factor, too. That's the rate, and the rate is based on experience, and where do we stand with the rate against the estimated payroll'1 Is the rate the same? Has it gone up or what? MR. 'IOMLINSON: I don't know. MS. NEMEC: The rate hasn't gone up very much. Our experience has been pretty good. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. MS. NEMEC: As far as experience, you know, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 27 LYie xaLe hasn't yurie up. But there's a lut of other factors that were involved this last time that caused the 40 percent, but that was over all -- every county felt that, not just us. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Tommy, I think I'll make a motion to declare an emergency and approve the $22,387.75. I Lkiink we need L~ l~uk at tkiis -- it's yoiny Lo be an ongoing budget item in our budget cycle every year. We're yoing to do some sort of salary adjustment in the budget process, which means that the prior year audit is going to be wiony. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: You can budget for and make additional payments based on our estimates. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I mean, thal -- Lkiey will let you do that. So, you know, you could project for -- just like -- just like paying estimated income taxes. You can -- you can make a higher payment based your own estimate, and that will adjust LkraL aL Lkie eiid of the year as well. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So that's what we -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll second the motion. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. We have a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 L 24 25 28 motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that we declare a budget emergency and approve Budget Amendment Number 6 to be paid from Surplus Funds. Any further discussion or questions? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Of course, I have a comment. Thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The 40 percent increase is way too much to begin with, and then for them to audit salary increases and a few new employees of the County, and then just charge us $2,000 to -- for that audit just seems to me extremely excessive, and I'm -- I'm going to do everything I can for us to take a look at every inch of our insurance and look at it in a real way. And I don't know it we'll -- if this particular Court right here wants to do that, but I think next year, I'll somehow twist some arms and we're going to get this done. This is our association that we're members of, that some of us have sat on the boards and et cetera and served them, and they turn around and do these kinds of things. And, to me, this is -- this is excessive. lt's not an everyday business deal. $22,000 is a hell of a lot of money for this kind of thing, and I am -- I'm really ticked off at them, and I'm -- I'm going to do everything I can to steer us away from TAC. And, you know, you guys get ready, 'cause I'm heading your 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 2S 24 25 29 way. MS. NEMEC: I want to say, some of -- some of this, I believe, is for the quarterly payment also; not all of it is for the audit increase. But I have that original bill in my office. I'll look at it and give you some more info on it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I share Commissioner Baldwin's concerns about insurance, and I have for a while. And we've tried to equalize -- at least get them all on the same year calendar year basis, which I think helps. And I think we've tried to, you know, take the best deal we -- we get, and that tends to usually be TAC up front. When TAC comes in with these increases after the fact, I think we need to take that into account. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The rates are actually dictated by the state, are they not? The rates are dictated by the state? MR. TOMLINSON: There's a base rate. COMM15510NER GRIFFIN: Yeah, base rate plus whatever your experience is. MR. TOMLINSON: Ylus your experience. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. And TAC, of course, passes that through to us. 1 mean, they're not tagging it on, but they're passing that through to us, and -- 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 G 1 22 23 24 25 30 MR. TOMLINSON: Y"ou have to remember that -- that in a pool for any governmental entity, if they're -- like -- like, TAC or the municipal league, they don't underwrite 100 percent of the risk. So, I know that in property coverage, TAC only maintains, like, 20 percent of their -- of the risk. So -- so we're -- we're subject to market fluctuati~us, just like Lhe private sector is. I know people that they're in commercial underwriting right now, and Lhey'xe -- and workers comp and liability, and they're having to go to their customers and say, you know, your bill is twice or Lhree limes what it was last year. And so, from what I -- from what I hear in the market, I think we're lucky to get 40 peicenL. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's a sad con¢nentary, Tommy. Please don't come in here and defend TAC to any me any more. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but it's still sad. That's sad. MR. TOMLINSON: I know. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And I really believe in my heart that -- that we can do better than TAC. I do. I know you defend them. You know, we've fought over this thing, but I'm not -- I don't want to listen to any more of it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: My final comment on it is that I pay it in the private sector as well as all of us pay 31 1 2 3 4 5 F 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 IJ 16 17 18 19 20 ?1 22 23 <4 G S it on the government side, and rates have gone up a lot, and a lot of it's due to lawsuits. I mean, you know, that's the problem Lhat comes through. Lawsuits against -- for everything, against everybody. It's -- we all have to pay mote and more. But I agree that, you know, we need to look at -- very carefully at our insurance coverage overall, because we spend a lot of money there. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's right. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can I second this, or is there -- COMMISSIONER GRIFh'1N: No, it's already seconded. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS second it? Dadgumit. Why would you want to COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We have a motion and a second. We have a motion and a second for budget item Number 6. Any further questions or comments? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Now, we just declared an emergency and went into the reserves of Kerr County to 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 t8 l0 20 21 22 23 29 25 pay insurance. T}lank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: To pay our workers comp. Number 7. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 7 is -- AUDIENCE: Commissioner Griffin, could you ask him to talk just a slight bit louder? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, our microphone's not working again. AUDIENCE: Okay, thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sorry about that. MR. TOMLINSON: Next amendment is for the 198th District Court. The request is to transfer $3,616.08 from Special Trials to Medical Assistance. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. MR. TOMLINSON: I have a -- I'm asking for a hand check to Stewart Davis' C.P.A. firm for $5,000. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, I want to re -- withdraw my motion. Stewart Davis is a C.P.A., and we're paying him medical assistance? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, that's -- it's for court -- iL's for court-appointed assistance, is really what it is. The title of that account is -- is misleading for that -- Lor that purpose. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Now you got me confused. 33 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 2z 23 24 ^^<5 COMMISSIONER BALllWIN: I am totally lost now. MR. TOMLINSON: Well, it's -- what it is, according to the bill -- to the court order, it's for the preparation -- in the help of preparation for a trial, And there's -- there's been two C.P.A. firms work on this case; one for the defense and one for the State. And this one that we have -- we have an order for today is for the assistance from this firm in the preparation of a case for the 198th court. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Why does it come out of Medical Assistance line itemt MR. TOMLINSON: 'Cause we don't have another line item Lhat -- we either have to come up with another line item and have it approved today, or pay it out of this. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Isn`t there -- is there -- I mean, I don't think it's right to put it under Medical Assistance. I mean, I don't know what other line item you could put it under, but -- or transfer the money Lxom Special Trials to. MR. TOMLINSON: You want to hold it and let me -- let me see what I can -- see what account number I can come up with? COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's just one of those things -- I'm just afraid if we get it in the wrong item, come budget time, all of a sudden we're going to be 34 1 2 3 9 J 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2J budyeLing money for something that's not appropriate. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right. COMMISSIUNER BALDWIN: I agree with that. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I would suggest we do that, Tommy, that we hold this one and -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- and see if there is a good pigeonhole to put it in, and if not, bring it back and we could create an account for that if we have to. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Today? MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah, I could do it today. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. Number 8, Tommy? MR. TOMLINSON: Number 8 is from the County Clerk. She has a request for $650 to be moved into her Microfilm Storage line item, $567 from Capital Outlay and $83 from Machine Repair. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER LE'1'L: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I have a motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Letz, that Budget Item Number 8 be approved as submitted. Any further comments or questions? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question. Do we pay that -- is that an annual fee we pay for microfilm storage? 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Or - MR. TOMLINSON: Yes, it is. It's a rental, actually. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just wanted to know, I mean, 'cause it -- it's a budgeting error. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any further comments or questions? A11 in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (N~ response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Number 9. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 9 is for the Lake Ingram Estates Road District. We need to transfer $970 from the Interest line item tc the Service Fees. And it's -- it's to pay -- there's an annual administration fee for -- to the Bank of New York, and this bank is our paying agent for -- for that debt. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that Budget Item Number 9 be approved as submitted. Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 24 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN late bills? I'he ayes have it. Any MR. TOMLINSON: I have two. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Two late bills to pay. MR. TOMLINSON: One is to Barbara Nemec for $130, and it's for reimbursement for registration for her clerk in the 30th Annual Treasurer's Seminar April the 1Sth through 18th. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, that the late bill in the amount of -- what was that, Tommy? MR. TOMLINSON: $130. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- $130 Tor attendance at the conference be paid. Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) CUMMISSIUNEK GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 1y ~0 21 22 23 29 2S 37 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. MR. TOMLINSON: Last one is to Buster Baldwin, $181.13 for -- it's to reimburse for travel expenses for the West Texas County Commissioners Association conference. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the late check be -- or late payment be approved for $181.13 to Commissioner Baldwin for travel to the West Texas conference. Any further comment or questions? COMMISSIONER LETZ: How is yours so much less than Commissioner Williams' and mine'? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Why is it so much less'? COMMISSIONER LETZ: We -- you stayed at the same hotel we did, the same mileage. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'll tell you later. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just watch the bills next month. 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have one question, Tommy. My -- our association fees didn't make it this round? (Mr. Tomlinson shook his head COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. I put in to pay our dues to the West Texas Association. You know, when we were in the South Texas, we paid $250 a year to be a member of that thing, and the West Texas Association is $50. Fifty dollars for a year. COMMISSIONER LETZ: All the more reason to be out west. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Absolutely. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Registration is cheaper, too. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm liking this more and more. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Do we have a motion to waive the reading of the minutes for the meetings of March 11th and March 25th and to approve the same? COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Williams, that we waive the reading of the minutes of Monday, March 11th meeting and 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39 Monday, March 2,th meeting of 2002, and approve those minutes. Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: A11 opposed, same sign. (N~ respuiise. ) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. All sight. Do I have a motion to accept the monthly -- approve and accept the monthly reports -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: As presented. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- as presented? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Se cond. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, se cond by Commissioner Letz, that we approve the -- and accept ttie monthly reports as submitted. Any further comments or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Okay. On to the consideration agenda. Item Number 1, consider variance for depth of utility lines in Falling 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2^ L 23 29 25 Water Subdivision, Prer_inct 3. Commissioner Letz and County Engineer. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll turn it over to Franklin, and if he has -- if I have any comments to add, I will. I've met with both Leonard and Dale Crenwelge about this. MR. JOHNSTON: We had a request from Dale Crenwelge in Falling Water Subdivision to change the depth of the utility lines Lrom 3 Loot Lo 2 and a hall Loot. I've -- I've been through Falling Water several times and I know on many places there's solid rock next to the roads. The roads are kind of built up over the rock. In areas that have solid rock, I wouldn't have any objection to 2 and a half foot. It's -- the pipes will be perfectly safe, like they're encased in concrete. I think it should be, you know, not a blanket variance, but as to conditions. If it's an area where they can dig full depth, I think they should, but if they have to rock saw solid rock, I wouldn't think 6 inches would affect it either way. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So, specifically, it's on the areas as designated on the -- MR. JOHNSTON: I think he has that designated, yes, on the map. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So, it would only apply -- the waiver would only apply to those areas? 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 5 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 L1 22 ~3 29 2~ 91 MR.. CRENWELGE: Just the areas where we're talking about on the diagram. MR. JOHNSTON: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Only the areas we're talking about on the diagram. MR. CRENWELGE: Yes. MR. JOHNS'1'ON: As to the -- the distance from the roadway, he requested to change zero to 4 feet from the property line to zero to ~ foot from the finished pavement surface. There, again, I thin Y, it should be on a case-by-case basis, 1 think what he's talking about is areas where there's fills and then the road slopes away, to get to the property line, they're out 20 foot below the road surface or something. MR. CRENWELGE: Right, just primarily up hills and down hills. You know, you have a 50-foot right-of-way, and we've cut the road pretty much 40 foot and we have banks on one side. We have either 16, 18, or 20 foot pavement, depending upon the road traffic, so we have -- you know, we have a lot of room right there to put it, you know, next to the pavement without going on the side of the -- huge banks on the side at the end of the right-of-way. MR, JOHNSTON: And then, there again, I think on a case-by-case basis. Some places, it's about the only 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ~5 42 place you can put it. In other places, you know, we should strive to put it away from the road, really for practical purposes. These aren't even county-maintained roads, but just for practical purposes, if a water tap is made or a water line breaks, it doesn't ruin big sections of the road. It's off the road. So -- COMMISSIONER LDTZ: A comment on the depth. And I've talked to Leonard about this, and we -- he is really recommending that we probably make that change permanent. He says Ter.DOT really has a 30-inch, on top of the pipes anyway, and he says we're a little bit more strict than TexDOT is. So, I think we probably should address that in the Subdivision Rules, but at this time, just -- I would just make a motion that we approve the variance as presented, L~Lh as to the depth and location in areas as designated on the attached plat only. MR. JOHNSTUN: These are the lines that we're talking about parallel to the road. I think that will be another issue; probably be the full depth. MR. CRENWELGE: Right. MR.. JOHNSTUN: That will be an area you can dig, anyway. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that -- that the 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ]6 ]7 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 variance be granted fur depth and location of the utility lines in Falling Water Subdivision as presented. Any further question or comments? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The muLion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: One other comment I might make on that. Central Texas has also -- utilities -- Electric Co-op has agreed to these same depths. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 30 inches? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. P9R. CRENWELGE: Hill Country Telephone and Aqua Source have all -- MR. JOHNSTON: All signed off on it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: As appropriate for this area? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They put everything in the same hole? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Here, they are. MR. CRENWELGE: Yep. MR. JOHNSTON: They all signed off on that, too? 44 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. CRENWELGE: Yeah. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Item Number 3, consider approval of cattle guard being installed on Honey Creek Road. This is in Precinct 4. This is the one that came before the Court previously. 't'here was a nonstandard design initially proposed that is now prepared to be the standard design that the County uses. Anything to add to that? 1 think your recommendation now is that we approve it? MR. JOHNSTON: Yeah. We went from a nonstandard design to twu standard designs put back-to-back, so I think we resolved the problem. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We're now down to one which will look just like the rest of them. So, I will make the motion that we appi~ve the installation of the cattle guard on Honey Creek Road as submitted. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: A motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that cattle guard to be installed on Honey Creek Road in accordance with the letter from Honey Creek Ranch be approved. Any further comment or question? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. Do we need to address that in our subdivision regs also? I mean, we're talking about a cattle guard here, and the subdivision 45 r 1 7 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 regs -- seems like you have to hire a couple of lawyers and three or four engineers and -- and lots of things, and we're talking about a cattle guard here, you know. Not talking about rocket science. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. The book just says -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Have you read that lately, Jon? COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, I have not. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's pretty detailed stuff there. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Might be able to simplify it somewhat. MR. JOHNSTON: There's some detailed previsions; however, they're -- for a standard 5-foot span, we have now an approved design for that. I think where it was getting complicated, if they wanted to increase that to an 8- or 10-foot span, -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. MR. JOHNSTON: -- that's where you have to have it re-engineered. But they're using our standard one and just putting two -- two of them next to each other. COMMISSIUNER BALDWIN: I'm glad it's working out. It certainly took -- you know, to me, because of that, because uL -- you know, and that may be the right thing to 96 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 1~ 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 24 25 do. I'm not saying it's not. But I think we need to revisit that because of that. You know, these guys have Leon jumping through hoops for a couple of months to put a damn cattle guard in. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How hard is that? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: If they'd come at us the first time with the standard design, I think it would -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Piece of cake"? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- have gone pretty easy. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it's a good time; we need Lo note those things. At the public hearing, we can make these minor adjustments. That should be a pretty minor adjustment. As to road depth, as well. MR. JOHNSTON: Yeah. In the -- in defense of wkiaL's in the book, it's really there for public safety. If someone comes up with some unusual design, it needs to meet some criteria. That's the criteria we have there. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. We have a motion and a second. A11 in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. 97 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (NO response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Item Number 3, consider and approve road name changes for privately maintained roads in Precincts 2, 3, and 9, in accordance with the 911 guidelines. I might add for the Court that I got a call from Truby Hardin just before the meeting started, and there was some question on the very last one on the list. On West Harley -- or -- yes, on Harley Drive that was proposed, and there was a question about it. We should drop that one from the list, she says, because it is in the city of Ingram; it's not in the county. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is, I agree. COMMISSIONER GR1Nr'1N: So -- so, 3011 t0 Harley, that last one on the list, we should drop. The rest we can approve, no problem. 't'hese are all privately maintained; they are not county-maintained roads. Do I have a motion? COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Second? Do I hear a second"? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Oh. Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the list submitted for approval of road name changes on 48 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ~l ~~ 23 24 25 pLivately maintained roads, as amended, be approved. Any further comment or question? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONEK GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Let's skip down to number -- 1 think -- let's see, let's do Number 7, consider and discuss proclamation to declare April 8th through the 12th as the Environmental Crime Prevention Week. This was one put on by Judge Henneke, and as you see in the backup material, this is a -- an initiative by T.N.R.C.C. to make the public and everyone aware that Texas has a very vigorous program of -- of addressing environmental crimes; that is, pollution of our natural environment. That there is a -- there is a real move to educate the public that those crimes can be -- can be prosecuted, and the perps brought to justice. And T.N.R.C.C. has declared April 8th through the 12th as Environmental Crime Prevention Week, and we are joining in this effort by this proclamation. And we would authorize the County Judge to sign same, by the way. Do I hear a motion? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 99 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~, L L 23 24 ~5 COMMISSIONEK WILLIAMS: Second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Williams, that -- that we approve and adopt the proclamation to declare April 8th through April 12th, 2002, as Environmental Crime Prevention Week and authorize the County Judge to sign same. Any further comment or question'? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge pro tem, sir? COMMISSIONER GR1P'r'IN: Yes? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I would also ask that Ms. Sovil be sure to send a copy of that court order to Eddie North, our local Solid Waste Coordinator. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good idea. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Good idea. I have a motion and a second. Any further comment or questions? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Also send a copy to T.N.R.C.C. so they remember to enforce these laws that they have on their books. CUMMISSIUNER BALDWIN: That's right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any further comment or questions'? if not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) CUMM1551UNER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) 50 1 3 4 S 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1S 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Maybe we can squeeze in Number 8. Consider and discuss approving social services contract between Kerr County and Big Brothers/Big Sisters, and authorize the ratifying of County Judge's signature. This is one that you'll recall that goes back to the opinion we were waiting on -- that we got, the opinion that we were awaiting on the support to these organizations. This is to tidy up that paperwork, and to go ahead and ratify the Judge's signature on that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'll second. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Letz, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that -- that the social services contract between Kerr County and Big Brothers/Big Sisters be approved, and that we authorize the ratification of the Judge's signature on same. Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: The ayes have it. Okay. I think Item Number -- Item Number 6 -- is that a fast one, Commissioner? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah, that's quick. 1 ~- 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 I1 12 .-, 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 .-. 25 51 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. Let's do Item proceed with a public hearing at 7 p.m, o~i April 17, 2002, to discuss the County's participation in the Texas Community Development Program during the coming year. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: As I noted in the background, we are at a point where we will soon be soliciting bids for certain elements of Phase I of the Kerrville South wastewater collection project, and it is timely that we consider moving forward, and in order to move forward and attempt to get a grant Lor continuation of the project, we would have to have 50 percent of the funds that were currently awarded obligated by May 16th, I believe -- May 13th. And we intend to try to have that bid so as to obligate those funds by the 13th of Lkie month. That means some fast work on our part, but the plans are drawn for the bypass of the Rolling Green wastewater classification on the Riverhill Country Club, and that will be sufficient to obligate up to 50 percent of the initial funds. having done that, we would now be eligible, then, to apply for continuing funding for the project, and L]iis - this court order would enable Grantworks to come in and notify the public of a hearing to be held at 7 p.m. ou April 17th, as sort of a performance thing or perfunctory thing. But they do conduct the public hearing at their expense at the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 L V 21 22 23 24 25 52 courthouse, and that makes us -- that's one of the steps necessary for applyinq for future funding. So, that's kind of the background. We'll be seeing mire of the plans and bid solicitations that will come before the Court here in a very short period of time. So, I would move our favorable consideration of allowing Grantworks to proceed with the public hearing at 7 p.m. on April 17th for Kerr County's continuing participation in the Texas Community Development Program. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'll second that motion, with a question. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the -- we authorize Grantworks to proceed with the public hearing at 7 p.m. on April 17th, 2002, to discuss the County's continuing participation in the Texas Community Development Program. Commissioner Baldwin? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: When we talk about Grantworks expanding and moving forward and doing these other things, are we talking about anything outside of the Ranchero Road project? COMMISSIONER W7LLIAMS: It is a continuation of the Ranchero Road project, and would essentially take us down to Loyal Valley towards the -- the mobile home park and so Eorth and so on. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 53 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: IL we could get our County Attorney -- where`d he go? If we could get him to answer our letter, we'd know that, wouldn't we? But we're not talking about anything outside of that Phase I project at this point? We're not talking about Center Point yet or anything? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN; Okay, thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; We have a motion and a second. Any further comment or questions? COMMISSIONER LETZ: General question. By reading the backup, it seems to me this is just a public hearing to receive what'? I mean -- COMMISSIONEF. WILL7AMS: Well, it's called for -- it's called for by the regulations, the T.C. D.H. -- whatever that is, Texas Community Development block grants. They have to conduct a public hearing, su that it's to perform -- really, conduct a public hearing. If anybody wants to know what the purpose is, they explain the purpose and so forth. So, it's just one of the requirements. COMMISSIONER LETZ: SuL it's just a public hearing to work with that state agency? I mean, if there's nothing -- if we don't have any plans as to what we're going to do, I don't see what you would -- why you would -- anyone would come to a public hearing. 59 1 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't know. The last one they conducted, no one came either. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a requirement? Any specific project information will be handled through either another hearing or Commissioners Court meeting? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Ukay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And the ayes have it. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. It is 10 o'clock on April the 8th, 2002. We'll recess the regular meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court and convene a public hearing regarding requesting TexDOT to install signs designating by name the crossings of the North and South Forks of the Guadalupe River on Highway 1340 and Highway 39. (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10 a.m., and a public hearing was held in open court, as follows:) P O B L I C H E A R I N G COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: This, you will recall, 55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is a -- is an issue that was raised by letter from ttie Schumacher sisters to name the Schumacher Crossing or have it -- and have a sign posted there. And, in discussivu with TexDOT, they recommended that if we would request them to do so, that they would install signs naming all ~f the crossings, and they gave us a list of what they considered at the time to be the most commonly used names for those crossings, and we wanted to set -- even though we didn't have to, we wanted to have a public hearing so that we could discuss other inputs on what some of those names might be. I da know that Commissioner Baldwin has had some contacts from -- as well as I have, from some of the old-timers, the old-time residents. And, Commissioner Ba]dwiu, before we get into *_he pure public hearing part of this, how about giving us a rundown on what you found? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, over the weekend I had a phone call from, of course, an old Lriend of my family's, and that particular family has been in Kerr County for over 100 years, and -- both the wife and Che husband's side of it; both of them have been over a hundred years. And they were all -- whole family have lived up on the North Fork of the Guadalupe, Highway 1340 for many, many, many, many years. And they called me over the weekend and told me what -- and it jogged some memory of my childhood, but told me what -- what the -- some of these crossiriys on our little 56 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 24 25 list that we have in our packets here, what the real names have been for a long, long time. And when we get down to -- yeL out of this public hearing and get down to the adoption part of this issue, I want to -- actually, I'd really like to amend it right now so that we will know, so we can have discussion, and if there's anyone in the audience that doesn't agree with me, they have the opportunity to throw things now. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think it would be -- without offering it as an amendment to the names, since none of tYiem have really been put up, you might go ahead and go through -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: -- the names you have. Ttieri we'll know what we're considering on the list. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: If we go, starting on the righthand side, Highway 1340, better known as the North Fork -- formerly a Kerr County road, by the way -- and go down the list to Number 9, it says McChesney Crossing. We want to change that to Benson. The Benson family has been out there for many, many years. The next one's okay. The following, Blue Haven Crossing, the original name of it is Graham, G-r-a-h-a-m, a family that's been out there forever and ever and ever. The next one, Quinn Crossing, there at B.E. Quinn's place, that's really known as Frederick, 57 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 F-r-e-d-e-r-i-c-k, and if you remember, that's the Friedrich family out of San Antonio, and that's really pre- Eddie Rickeubachex time. So -- you know, and I kind of remember some of those. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Isn't that name -- I think it's spelled as the German spelling, is it not, the Friedxi~h? IL's like Friedrich, but it's pronounced Frederick. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir, it is. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's F-x-i-e-d-r-i-c-h. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: F-r-i-e-d -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And so Quinn Crossing to Friedrich. Waldemar is fairly correct, and then Johnson, it's kuuwri as Lhe Hope, H-o-p-e, Crossing. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What's the background informaLiorr on that? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Confidential information. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Have to kill me if I find ouL? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: River Bend Crossing is Lone Star, because that was originally Lone Star Lodges many, many years ago. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Is that one word or 58 1 H 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 22 23 24 25 two? Do you know? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think that's two words. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, me too. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And then, of course, Stewart Crossing would be changed to Mayhew, M-a-y-h-e-w. That's another old name that's been here for many, many years. And I did not have anyone call me over the weekend and comment on the South Fork, so I -- I don't know. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I got the same input that you did on the names that -- that you've just discussed. And, as you say, it came from the -- a family that's been -- has lived on the North Fork for a hundred years. And I think our -- our view here should try to be to get them right, and there's no -- these were just names suggested by TexDOT that we started with. And let's get them right and try to stick with the -- with the -- with the historic names where we can. And so, with that, I think now we can really get into the public hearing part of it. I know that Mr. Crum -- MR. CRUM: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Mr. and Mrs. Crum are here. MR. CRUM: Good morning. My name is Bill Crum, and my wife Jane. We live at HC-l, Box 147-B in Hunt 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 on tk-ie North Fork. The comments that have just been made preempt a lot of what I'm going to say, but I thought I might just introduce myself to the Court and make one comment. I want to commend the Court and TexDOT for taking ltris action. I think it's a very -- very fine move. And I'm going to make a side note, that Mr. Tucker, in finishing what kids been now known as the Waldemar, and it may be changed, and the Quinn, on the coloring of the sidewalk or the side panels there, it's excellent. It was at one time a very psychedelic orange, and I think it's wonderful at the present time. I will not take any more of your time. The Blue Haven was what stuck in our particular mind as -- we wondered what that might entail. Phat's the -- we live about a mile northwest of that Blue Haven Crossing. And we suggested that maybe that there would be a better name than Blue Haven, unless it's a misprint and should have been Blue HeLOn, because we have a great blue heron that flies up and down there. We suggested maybe Rickenbacher or Scout, because of the camp right there. So, with those comments, I commend, again, the Court for its actions. Thank you. COMM1SSlUNER BALDWIN: Thank you very much. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Anyone else who would like to speak on this issue's if not, we'll -- do we adjourn or do we -- MS. SUVIL: Close. 60 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We'll close the public hearing, and we'll reconvene the regular session of the Kerr County Commissioners Court and discuss Item Number 5, which is to consider and discuss approving the name change -- or not name chanye~, the request of TexUOT to install signs naming the crossings as we discussed during the public hearing. (The public hearing was concluded at 10:08 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was reopened.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: from the Commissioners on this? COMMISSIONER LETZ: My that on Blue Haven, Commissioner Bald hear RickenL-acher oc Scout. Is there COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: historic name. Any further comment only comment would be ain said Graham and I a -- I mean -- Graham was the COMMISSIONER LETZ: Graham is before Rickenbacher? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Graham -- that Graham family, I mean, there's still some of them there. I have been there, you know, in three or four different lives, and some of them are still out there. So -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: As an editorial on 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 24 25 Rickenbacher, according to my grandfather, it's Mr. Rickenbacher who we have to thank for all of the Russian hogs we have in the country, 'cause he originally imported them from Europe. So, aside from being a World War I ace -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, if there are no further comments or questions by the Commissioners, do I hear a motion that we request of TexDOT the to install the signs, with the list as amended, on the North and South Forks of -- along Highways 1340 and 39? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Commissioner Griffin, I'd like to make that motion. MS. SOVIL: Would you reread the list? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No. The judge will. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, it will be the list as submitted for the public hearing, with -- these are all on the South Fork -- or, correction, North Fork. What was previously designated McChesney Crossing would become Benson Crossing, B-e-n-s-o-n; previously designated Blue Haven Crossing would be Graham Crossing, G-r-a-h-a-m; previously designated Quinn Crossing would become Friedrich Crossing, spelled F-r-i-e-d-r-i-c'h; previously designated Johnson Crossing would be designated the Hope Crossing, H-o-p-e; previously designated River Bend Crossing would be Lone Star Crossing, two words; and previously designated Stewart Crossing would be Mayhew, M-a-y-h-e-w, Crossing. 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 <5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Was there a second? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Yeah, we're waiting for a second, I think. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I'1] be glad to make the second, with a comment. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. Motion by Commissioner Baldwin, second by Commissioner Letz, Lhat -- that the list be approved and we request TexDOT, in accordance with this list, to make the designations. Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Maybe I shouldn't kiave made that second. Anyway, here's my comment; then we can decide. I'm wondering, since on the North Fork -- I mean, on the South Fork there were not changes, if it would not -- I hate to make these name changes more than one time -- if it wouldn't be better to not do another public hearing, but hold back a week to see if everyone is in agreement or, I mean, people from out west are comfortable with all these names. I have no problem with them, not living in tkie area, but TexDOT got a lot of the ones on the North Fork wrong historically. But we did -- but I suspect there may be some errors on the South Fork as well, COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I will -- I would say that let's go ahead and, on the condition that if -- we can always bring it back to the Court. I mean, we 63 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1J 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 can -- I would recommend we go ahead and get Ltie process started. Remember, this is a request to TexDOT. So, if we want to change the request, we can do that, and it's going to take a while for them to get all this done. COMMISSIONER LE'1'Z: Sure. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I'm sure there is going to -- kind of generalized public knowledge, not to slow the process down now, but if there are appropriate changes to be made at any time, even on some of these on the North Fork -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS; solicit a comment on the South Fork in of those crossings? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We made the public hearing notice, and had the public hearing. COMMISSIONER WILLIHMS: forthcoming? Commissioner, did we terms of the accuracy aho did we solicit? that's the reason we Nothitty was COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; Nothiny was forthcoming. We did get comment on the North Fork. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The word goL out there, but it was -- you know, and I think probably maybe it's best to go -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, it was well-covered by the media, the local newspapers and all, so 64 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I think the word got out. We just didn't get any comment on the South Fork, and we did on the North Fork. That doesn't mean we won't -- we may get comments on both, but I would recommend we go ahead and press on with the motion as -- as made and seconded. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any further comments or questions? If not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GF.IFFIN: A11 opposed, same sign. (No response.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN; The ayes have it. Okay. There being no further -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, we do have -- Tommy, have you got us an answer to the Budget Amendment Number 7? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. The account number was correct, and we -- we had changed the name of that account for the 216th court and failed to change it for the -- for the 198th. The change we made was -- was in anticipation of -- of the reporting for Senate Bill 7. You know, we felt like that we were going to have to segregate the court-appointed attorneys fees from all other appointed fees. So, what we did, we -- we had two accounts and we -- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 15 1? 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 55 we grouped all of -- all of the court-appuinted fees that were not attorney-related into this account, and so all the -- anything -- anything goes in that account except for attorney's fees. COMMISSIONEK GRIFFIN: So, it may be - MR. TOMLINSON: It could be a medical bill or it could be, as an example, this bill. WYiat we -- in the 216th court, we -- when we renamed it, we called it Court-Appointed Services, and that's the correct account number, but we just failed to change the one in the 198th. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, it's Court- Appointed -- MR. TOMLINSON: Services. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: -- Services. MR. TOMLINSON: But, Lor Senate Bi11 7, we -- we're just anticipating having to change -- having to report different activities, and we're especially concerned with having only the court-appointed attorneys in one line item by itself, COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. So, could we include the name change in the motion lu approve the budget amendment? MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Does that make sense? MS. SOVIL: 401? 66 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: So let's go back to Budget Amendment Number 7. Do I hear a motion for approval of that with the name change? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I move it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second it. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that Budget Amendment Number 7 to move money from Special Trials in the amount of $3,616.08 to expense code 10-336-901, which would be renamed Court-Appointed Services. MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. MS. SOVIL: Special Services. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Court-Appointed Special Services? MR. TOMLINSON: No, it says Court-Appointed Services, I believe it is. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Court-Appointed Services. MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Any further comment or questions? All in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) 67 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1S 16 1/ 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIUNEK GRlr'r'1N: Ukay. That concludes the open portion of our meeting. We do have a -- a closed session or closed meeting, Executive Session scheduled to discuss pending litigation with the County Attorney, so we will recess our regular session for now, and if we can reconfigure the room, we'll have a closed session. Discussion off the record.) (The open session was closed at 10:17 a.m., and an Executive Session was held, the transcript of which is contained in a separate document.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge pro tem? I actually had a question; it just popped in my -- COMM1SSlONER GRlr'N1N: we'll reconvene the open -- the regular session of Kerr County Commissioners Court. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are we reconvened? I had a question about one of the late bills. lt's just -- the thought popped in my mind, and I kind of ran through all the language back through my processor here, and it didn't -- didn't compute, and I have to ask the question. The late bill for the convention for the Treasurer's office, who -- what actual person -- see, you have a -- you have the elected official there, which is what I understood that the -- that person is actually going to the convention. Then you have some part-time people. Are we paying for 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2~ 23 24 25 68 part-time people to go? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's a good question. I -- I don't know the answer. I would suspect it's either the Treasurer or the person that's going to be appointed to fill Ada's position. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That could be. I just -- the thought popped in my mind, and I think that when -- you probably need to be careful. I don't even know the legalities. It just seemed like -- you know, common sense would say to me that we don't send part-time people to school. I mean, it just seems that way. I could be wrong. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I would share your sentiment, but I think it's probably up to each elected official, as long as it's legal, at their discretion, based on the way we've done our budgeting under that line item. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It sure could be. I just -- just a question popped in my mind. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. Since we've reconvened, I do need to say for the record that no action is required at this time as a result of the closed meeting, Executive Session. Anything else to come before the Court? We stand adjourned. (Commissioners Court adjourned at 10:40 a.m.) 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 69 STATE OF TEXAS COONTY OF KERR The above and foregoing is a true and complete transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 10th day of April, 2002. JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk BY: ___ _ __ 1 _ Kathy Ban k, Deputy County Clerk Certified Shorthand Reporter CL_AIt~iS AtJD ~'~i.'CUUtJ7S Un this the E3th day rf Apr•il ~?G70c:, came to be considerecl by the Court various Commissioners precincts, wh:i.ch said Caaims and Rcco~ants are: 1~--General for• X11=:C,E3ai3. l9; i.4--1="ir•e ~''r-otectior, for• ~ci,3:;;.=,.7~; lv-Road ~ Pridye for $49,113.13; if3-County Laa~ Library far 31/1..:iN; 19-Public Library for• 31,4',:,1.33; SQi-Indiyen~. Health Care f-'or 3;39, cr',c. CN; 70-Permanent Tmlarovement for 31, 90~. ~~Z~; E33-State Funded--cl6th Dist Attorney for 3`34.1.(33; E36-State Funded-'c1E,th Dist F'rob for 483S.0C; E17--State Funded-Community Car•rec6ions for 34,4~G.~1; TOTAL CRSH REG~UIRED FOR ALL F=UNDS ISc $c7?,^c79.53 Upor, motion made by C:ommissior,er• I_et~, sec,nr,deC1 by Commissioner Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0, to pay said accounts. ORDER N0.O7%~r9k PI.ID~ET RMENDMENT COI.INTY RLIDITOR NON DEF'(~RTMENTRL On this +.he 8th day of Rpril C.:k"1~E, upon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded 6y Commissioner t_et~, the Coy"irt i_inanimo~.tsly approved by a vote of 4-a-a, +.n tr•ansfer• 8378.43 from Line Item No.lk~-4k~9-SE4 Mainframe I*1~intenance to Line Item No. 10-49°,-~69 Operating Eq."~ipment. ORDER N0.~749]. BUDGET AMENDMENT JUSTICE OF F'E=RCE, F'C"f #3 On this the 8th day of Rpril ~@@~, upon motion made by Commissioner Let:, seconded by Commissioner- Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-@-@, to transfer 'b15@.@@ from Line Item No.l@-457-563 Software MainF.enance to Line Item Nc:~.i@-457-1@8 Fart-time Salary. RUDGF_T ANENDNENT DISTRICT CLERk On this the 8th day of April 00c, ~_~pon motion made by Commissioner Wi17.iams, seconded by Commissioner Let z, the Co~_irt unanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, to transfer 587.00 from Line Item No.10-450-41c Microfilm Record to Line Ttein No.iQ~-450-457 Naintenance Gantracts. ORDER IVO.c74~j.; ~;UD6ET RMENDNEI~I1 SHERIFF'S D'EF'(~Rl"NF_NT On this the 8th day of flpril '00c, ~.~pon motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Or-iffin, the Co~_irt unanimo~.rsly approved by a vote of 4-0-~, to transfer $841.ik'~ from Line Item No. 10-5F,0-104 Dep~_ities Salary to Line Item No. 10--560-~_'c0 Employee Medical Exams. ORDER NU.c7454 PUDBET AMENDMENT COMMISSIONERS' CULIRT NUN DEPARTMENTAL On this the 8th day of April 20Or, upon motion made by Commissioner- Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Co~.irt unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, to transfer ~~,.318.'78 frcrm Line Item No. 10-405-571 Contingency 'to Line Item No. 10-401-486 F'r•afessional Services, approve late 6i11 and a~_~thorize hand check. The Coi.mty Auditor and County Treasurer are hereby authorized to write a hand check in the amo~_int of :::,318.78 made payable to Allison, Bass & Associates. ORDER NO.c7~+95 FUDGE"f AMENDMENT NON DEPARTMENTAL Dn 'this the 8th day of April ~_00L, ~_ipon motion made by Commissioner Letz~ seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Co~_~r-t ~_inanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-@~ to declare an emergency and transfer ~~~=.,387.75 from F~_ind 10-S~_irpl~as to Line Item No. 10-4Q~9-~~4 Workers Compensation. .~-- OFrDEI? NCI. ~%49i=', ~uDCr_-r f-1MLNDMEN r COUNT'r CLE.RI', Qn this the t~th day of April ~~:00~, upon motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Let-, the Co~ar•t unanimously approved by a vote of 4-~-0, to 'transf'er 3650.00 with :6567.00 from Line Item No. 10-~+~~+--570 C:api.t-zl Outlay and 3E3~;.00 from Line Item No. 10--404--456 Machine Repairs to L1Y1e Item No. 10--404'-460 Micr•oFilm Stor•aye. ORDER N0. ~:'749/ BUDGET RMENDMENT LRKER INGRRM EST RED DIST 'O1 On this the 8th day of Rpr•il i?OQ~c, upon motion made by Comniissior7er• Let z, seconded by Commissioner Hal.dwin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-Q~, 'to tr•ansfer- ~47~.4~G from Line Item IVo.63-643-660 Interest 'to Line Item No.63-643-665 Service Fee, approve late brill and a~_ithorize hand check. The County R~aditor• and Co~_mty Trea~c~_rrer are hereby a~athori