1 3 4 5 h 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 22 23 24 25 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT Special Session Monday, December 2, 2002 1:30 p.m. Commissioners' Courtroom Kerr County Courthouse Kerrville, Texas PRESENT: FREDERICK L. HENNEKE, Kerr County Judge H.A."BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 LARRY GRIFFIN, Commissioner Pct. 4 ~v ~~ ~~~ V z 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 N D E X December 2, 2002 PAGE 1.1 Consider and discuss amending Dailey Wells contract to include replacing Dictaphone radio recorder .,~; 7b$C 3 1.2 Consider and discuss evaluations by DRG, Inc., of design/build team qualifications and take any actions required by such evaluations or applicable state law including, but without limitation, selection of design/build teams for interviews and time for such interviews ~ 7~~~ 9 --- Adjourned 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Q 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~~ L l 22 23 24 G5 3 On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 1:30 p.m., a special meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court: P R O C E E D I N G S DODGE HENNEKE: Good afternoon, everyone. It's 1:30 in the afternoon of Monday, December 2nd, Year 2002. I will call to order this special meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court. First item for discussion is Item Number 1, consider and discuss amending the Dailey Wells contract to include replacing the Dictaphone radio recorder. Sheriff Hierholzer. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Good afternoon. We have some recording equipment that we've had out there at the Sheriff's Office that records our -- all our radio traffic and incoming telephone calls and outgoing telephone calls from the dispatch center. That equipment's been with the department a number of years, and for the last several months we have been trying to keep it going, and we just have been unsuccessful to do so. We contacted Dictaphone about it, and they said they don't even make that one any more, and there wasn't much else we could do other than replace it, and they're the only ones that do it. To replace that piece of equipment su that we 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 2~ 23 ^ 24 25 could continue rewording all our radio and phone traffic, bring the total to $13,087. If we go with a 4-year, it's $1^,990, and if we go with a 3-year, it's $12,794. It would come with one year in that $11,038 fee. 7 dorr't have that kind of funds in my budget to be able to get that expensive a piece of equipment, so I was talking to Dailey Wells, since they're doing the radios and are nearing completion on that deal, and in talking to Richard Wells about it, he said that they could get it at the same price and everything and install it, put it in for us as part of this same contract that we hate on the -- on the radio system. And, asking where the funds would come from there, they had built in, in the detailed best and final offer, in the executive summary, second to last line, I believe it is a contingency fund. And what this fund covers, among other things, is some of the in-building amplifiers. If we had a problem with getting radio communication out of, like, the hospital or something, they were going to build in one of those in-buildings. But they said it should still leave, even if they had to dv that, plenty to cover this cost of the -- of this recorder. And that contingency fund amount was $65,000 built into that. ~_-.-u2 1 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Z4 25 5 He also stated that they were pretty well coming in under budget as -- as they're getting everything done as we speak, and so what I'm asking the Court to do is amend the Dailey Wells contract to include that piece of equipment in there to be installed at the Sheriff's Office at the same time. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: With the funds to be -- to come from the Contingency line item in the contract. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Including the 4-year maintenance contract? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes. COMMISSIONER BALllWIN: They agreed to take that out of that same -- SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, that will -- we're going to take that out, 'cause I think we're going to pay the purchase price, and they'll make sure it's all kept in there. It will all come out of that; we'll send them the bill. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What is the cost of a 4-year maintenance agreement? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The 4-year maintenance, if you do it for four years, it's $12,940 total, wiLti the piece cf equipment and the maintenance. If you do it for five years, it's $13,087. JUDGE HENNEKE: I think 5-year is what you're recommending. Correr_t, Sheriff? i_-~ ~~i~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~ -, Z3 24 ~5 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That's what I would recommend with this type of equipment. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You mentioned that -- your knowledge that the current communication project is coming in under budget. Do you have some feel for that? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes. We11, we've g~tteu -- we've paid them two or three payments so far. Each one, we've got a discounted price on top of the actual payment, that -- Laking another 10 percent, about $3,000 each payment for paying it on timc=. And the way they were talking, it's just duiug well. They haven't had any snags in it or anything that's cost them extra. They are expecting to be complete with the installation of the system by the 6th of this month, which is the end of this week. That's why I had to get this moved in on this special Commissioners Court meeting. And then from the 6th of this month Lo Lhe 16th of the month, they will be doing their testing to make sure we have the guaranteed coverage and that before we actually do a switch-over of the system on the 16th. The only other expense that was never figured into the cost, but I think I've even got it covered in our budget anyhow with new cars -- it's already being programmed -- is reprogramming our old radios for the new radio frequencies. That's running us about $20 a car. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any questions or comments? ~- - `- 1 2 9 5 F 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1y 20 zl 22 ~3 24 .'S COMMISSIONER BALDW [N: I do have a ~xuestion. Did I hear you say that we're going to pay for this and then bill to have it taken out of here? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Bill these people? Where does the initial money come from? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Out of that -- the bond stuff and everything that -- the contract with Dailey Wells. It's going to be amended to them. We'll order it and they'll pay the bill, is actually what it amounts to. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Certificate of obligation. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. COMMISSIONER GRIFF~N: I'd make a motion that we approve amending of the Dailey Wells contract to include the system as proposed in the package, with the 5-year maintenance contract, and authorize County Judge to sign any paperwork necessary to accomplish that. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And put in there, too, where -- where it actually comes from. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: It's coming from the contract dollars that are in the -- SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Certificate of Obligation contract dollars in the Dailey Wells radio system 1'-~-G~ 1 3 4 5 F 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 G 1 23 24 25 contract. Now, they -- the maintE=nance contract will actually be with Dictaphone. CUMMiSSlONER GRIFF:CN: Right. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Okay? Not with Gailey Wells. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Contingency line or something? JUDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, Contingency line item in the Dailey Wells contract. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's what I wanted. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Right. JUDGE HENNEKE: Second? COMMISSIONER BHLUWIN: I'll second that. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Griffin, second by Commissioner Baldwin, that the Court approve amending the Dailey Wells contract to include replacing the Dictaphone radio recorder and purchasing a 5-year maintenance contract at a total cost of $13,087, with the funds to come from the Contingency line item in the Dailey Wells contract, and authorize the County Judge to sign all documentation necessary to evidence the amendment. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good lord, did I say all that? JUDGE HENNEKE: You did a fine job, Commissioner. ~..-_-u. 9 1 2 3 9 5 b 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 l~ 16 17 18 19 20 21 G2 23 24 25 COMMISSIUNER GRIFFIN: Did a great job. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm a hardworking son of a gun. They need to reelect me. JUDGE HENNEKE: Any,/ questions or comments? IL not, all in favor, raise your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE HENNEKE: MoY.ion carries. Newt item for consideration is consider and discuss the evaluations by DRG, Inc., of Lhe design/build teams qualifications, take any actions required by such evaluations or applicable state law, including, but without limitation, selection of design/build teams for interviews and time for such interviews. I have handed out to each of you an evaluation I received trom DRG this morning. DRG has ranked the four Leams, from highest to lowest, as the r'aulkner Construction, Inc./J.M. Lowe Company and Quorum Architects team as number one. Number two, Huser Construction Company, Inc., and Alan E. Adler, Architect. Number three, STR Constructors, Limited, and number four, Biermann Construction Company, L.L.C., in association with J.F. Thompson, Inc. It is the recommendation of DRG Architects that Kerr County invite the three highest-ranked design/build teams to be interviewed and present more detailed information. 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1L 13 19 15 16 17 18 l~ 20 21 L2 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER. GRIFFIN: To DRG? I mean, that is presentations -- more detailed presentations t_o DRG? JUDGE HENNEKE: No, it's to the Commissioners Court. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: To us? JUDGE HENNEKE: It's to us. COMMISSIONER GRIFE'1N: Are they going to reevaluate their spreadsheet scores after that? In other words, is DRG going t~ play any role -- JUDGE HENNEKE: It says Commissioners Court will interview nu snore than five of the design/build teams. SO -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I see. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We're talking -- are wz talking about a regular Commissioners Court meeting, bringing all this in? JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, that's what we need to decide. I mean, we have a meeting scheduled for a week from *_oday, so my suyyestion would be that we schedule these interviews the afternoon of the 9th so that we -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: 'Phe -- JUDGE HENNEKE: But that's -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: taut they're also supposed -- well, interviews the 9th. When would the recommendation come back from DRG? The reason is 'cause 1 J - :. - i 11 1 3 4 J 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1J 16 17 18 19 20 21 ~~ 23 29 25 they're asking them to provide drawings also, and I don't think it's reasonable to ask any architectural firm to have drawiiiys in four days. JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, that may be pushing it sonic. It may be that we ought to look more to having the interviews on the 16th and then have a recommendation and make uur choice on the 23rd, which is our final scheduled meeting for this year. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think that's pushing it. I mean, I'm just thinking -- I mean, we're asking them Lo, you know, give us elevations and basic drawings, and I think that you need to give them, you know, some reasonable Lime to do that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But that's -- the drawinys, we are asking for them, but are they a part of the interview process? COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're part of the selection process. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Part of the ultimate selection process. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We ran interview them, but we can't, I mean, select. There needs to be -- they need to have time to do the drawings before or after the interview. The interview can be -- I don't have any problem with doing that maybe next week on the yth, but I -- 12 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 S 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 1`~ 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But you're right, they do need time to work it out. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And have drawings. 'Cause, I mean, I think the -- the reason for the pushing was to have the drawings basically by the lst of the year. And as soon as we -- and then make a selection about them so we can use the drawings with tkie team that we use. COMMISSIONER. WILLIAMS: Why would it be necessary to delay the interviews for a full weekt Why couldn't the interviews be scheduled within 72 hours? COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think Jonathan was saying that was a COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think that's -- I think you have to give them a little bit of time for that, too. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I think we need -- are there some parameters we can give them for that? In other words, you have 10 minutes, or you have -- JUDGE HENNEKE: It was in the Request for Qualifications. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay JUDGE HENNEKE: The whole process was outlined in the Request for Qualifications. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. JUDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, Phase II. Provide additional interview and to interview -- provide additional IJ ..-o. 13 1 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 infonnaLion regarding the following criteria: Proposed site plan, a floor plan, front elevation, proposed type of constxuctic~u -- I'm reading from Page 3 of 4. Anticipated schedule for design, feasibility of implementing the project, cost methodology, cost including any guaranteed maximum price. So, you know, I mean, I don't -- I don't see any reason t0 put the interviews past the 9th. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 1:30? 1 O'clock? 12:95? JUDGE HENNEKE: What's everyone's -- what's everyone else think? Commissioner Baldwin's ready to push the pedal to the medal. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 1:30. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess -- I mean, my hesitation is, what are we doing at the interview? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't know. If the law requires it, we'll do it, whatever it is. JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, I think the purpose of the interview, from my understanding -- maybe I ought to defer to Commissioner Williams, since he went to the seminar -- is for us to get a feel as to what these guys are pxupusiiiy Lo do. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right. JUDGE HENNEKE: For us to be comfortable with li-L-UJ 14 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 them as the ones who are doing th=s project. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's correct, and to ask the questions about the project and their -- and listen to their responses and so forth, so on. That's correct. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I'm comfortable with all four of them listed, that they can do the job. I just don't see the point in having them come down here so we can look at them for five minutes and not say anything. If it's going to be a constructive dialogue, that's fine, but -- JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, you know, the -- the answers to the questions that are here under Phase II, such as the type of construction, schedule, the cost methodology, the cost included in the guaranteed maximum price. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, to me, that's all basically written, and that shoulc be then given to DRG to evaluate. JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, we -- we can do it that way. If we want to contact the tep three teams and say provide us with this information by a date certain, and have the interviews a day or two after that, I don't have any problem with that. I think that's a fairly reasonable way to go about it. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We11, it specifies -- 1. _ u. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 15 this Number 2 tells you exactly wYiat you want them to expound upon. JUDGE HENNEKE: But I think Jonathan's point is -- which I think is a good one -- have them provide this information in advance so that DRG can have a look at it, and then, when we have the interview, we'll have the basis of URG's -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: And we could make an evaluation right after that. JUDGE HENNEKE: Is that correct, Jonathan? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think -- I mean, I have some really -- I really thought DRG would be here today, 'cause the questions I have are really as much to them. As an example, I don't -- on change orders, things of that nature, i mean, that regardless of who the person is, it's something we need to qet, in my mind, clearly worked out before we go real far. I don't know if you wait until after we try to negotiate a contract and do that, or it we do it -- bring that up now. I mean, 'cause that's -- from talking with Wayne Gondeck, it's still very -- because they're professionals, there's very little we can do in negotiations until -- and really discussion with them until we select the one we want to negotiate with. 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's why I'm saying when we interview them, like, I'd almost be scared to ask -- any question I'd have would be something that would really have to do with after we start negotiations. You know, and I can see some, yeu know, problems developing with one of them, potentially, things like change orders. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, the law is pretty specific about t1iaL. You've got to direct those to the person -- to the firm or group that you've selected, and you rani play their answers off against somebody else and get a better deal out of it. So, you know. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Kigrit. That's why I think, you know, I would like to have, if possible, Wayne Gonderk here at our nezct meeting, next Monday, to go over the process a little bit, or maybe talk to him one-on-one, if nobody else shares these concerns. Because I think, you know, it's -- the process is new to me and to the Court, and 7 just want to make sure we're proceeding properly. And if we're required to do an interview, that's fine, but if we're nnt, I don't know that it's going to be a requirement. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Well, I wonder if, by next week., if they could do just those things that are listed in the bullets. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1~ 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2U 21 22 23 29 25 17 COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: If can they have a proposed site and floor plan and a front elevation sketch, and then talk to those things and tell them that that's what it will be limited to. COMMTSSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I don't think, at this point, we can ask them questions, as a matter of fact. COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's what I was getting at, as to why we have an interview. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: We can't ask them questions. JUDGE HENNEKE: Why? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You can ask questions about these items that they're supposed to be prepared to respond to. JUDGE HENNEKE: Why don't we do this? Why don't we -- w}iy don't we contact the top three, ask them to provide us with this information by -- you know, within this week, and put it on the agenda for next Monday to have them -- more of a workshop discussion with Gondeck about the process, and at the same time, we can set the interview schedule. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think that's too quick. I think we need to ask them to provide this information and give them a date next week, you know. 1_ _-u^ 18 I 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ~l 22 23 24 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And then -- COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Maybe next Monday. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, it can be next Monday. I just think thar we're asking them to do a fair amount of work, and they have other responsibilities. I don't think we should expect them to drop everything they're doing and come up with a drawing in four days. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Could we -- could we couch a motion such that we could give the Judge the authority to work that date as soon as pcssible through -- with and through DRG? In other wcrds, get DRG's opinion on it. Can they -- 'cause they may know what these guys have already done, if anything, and have a feel for the schedule, rather than us trying to sit here and guess, can they do it by next Tuesday or next Wednesday or whatever. Just let the Judge work tkiat with DRG, and -- and with the idea that we do it as quickly as we can. JUDGE HENNEKE: Well, we can take -- take a 15-minute break and qo call. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think that's probably -- I mean, we can find out how long we should give them. JUDGE HENNEKE: Why don't we delegate Commissioner Williams and Commissioner Letz to go call 1_ ~-,i~ 19 1 2 3 4 G h 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 ~3 24 ~ J Wayne? An~i we'1i reconvene, if you guys are able to reach him, and you can provide us with -- I mean, if we all go in there, then we have to take Kathy with us. It gets crowded a little bit. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. JUDGE HENNEKE: Does that work? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think it's fantastic. J[iDGE HENNEKE: Let's take a recess. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Be back before 4 o'clock. JUDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, we'll be back -- if you guys -- we'll come back in at -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: 2:00? JUDGE HENNEKE: -- 2 o'clo~~k. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Okay. (Recess taken from 1:50 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.l JUDGE HENNEKE: We will reconvene this regular -- this special session of the Kerr County Commissioners Court, and we have a report from Commissioner Letz and Commissioner Williams on the their conversation with Mr. Gondeck. COMMISSIONER. WILLIAMS: We did that. We have had that. DRG will participate in the process. Based on 1 _ - ~ _ 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 lh 17 18 19 20 ~l 22 23 24 25 20 our discussions and whatever action we take today, they will invite the top three that they have rated to be here at a date we will Set for an interview process, and be prepared to make whatever presentations were highlighted in this Phase II, all these little notch marks there. And make their presentation, answer questions from us, answer questions from DRG, as long as it takes. And he says we should allow about an hour for each of them. They will stay -- DRG will stay with us. At the conclusion of the three, they'll be prepared to work with us as we try to find a solution to the question. COMMISSIONER LETZ: But the other -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Two weeks from now. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Two weeks is what he has pretty much told them -- or he talked with all four of them. That's the minimum amount of time they ~~ould do it in, and that's pushing them quite a bit. And then the other point, they present this at the interview, that information; that there's nothing turned in before that. They present it and go over it and have to address this information in the interview. It may or may not be furnished to us all in writing at the interview, but no one gets anything until that interview. So, that's the purpose of the interview, so they can give us this information, JUDGE HENNEKE: All right. i_ _ ~~~ 21 1 2 3 9 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 ly 20 21 22 ~3 ~4 ~'5 COMMISSIONER W1LL1P,M5: And our questions should be -- should be in regard to these things which they're -- they're supposed to address to the Court. So, if we want to talk about how they're going to build it, what they're going to build it with, what's the cost going to be, how they're going to able to phase it in, keep the place functioning, accommodate the Stock Show -- in other words, whatever questions arise, those are the questions we should direct based on these things. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Does -- I haven't read them. Does that include change orders? 'Cause I think Letz is on to something there. That's -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He talked about that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I talked to Wayne about that. He says we could ask their general policy, what it comes to and how they would handle it, but we cannot get into anywhere negotiating how they handle change orders. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sure. I understand that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can ask them what their policy is on it, how they handle change orders. They can tell us what they want. And then -- but whether we go with some sort of a change order or, you know, cost-plus, "X" percent, that's handled in the negotiation period. COMM1SS10NER BALLWCN: Will that be handled? x~-_- z zz 1 2 3 4 5 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 'Cause -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: It can be handled. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- I see that kind of as a loose end. We always end up in trouble with it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. He said -- Wayne says it can be handled -- explicitly put in the contract as to how those change orders will be handled. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He's suggesting the 17th, which meets his schedule, because he's goinq to be in Kerrville on the 17th. I think there's a juvenile meeting that morning, which you guys are doing the -- with him, the juvenile facility, and he's going to be here. He's suggesting 1 o'clock. ?EDGE HENNEKE: Yeah, it would have to be in the afternoon. COMMISSIONER LETZ: 1 o'clock? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Tuesday, the 17th. JODGE HENNEKE: I think what we'll -- let me make sure that I don't have anything. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We just do what we do. They'll send the letters out. rOMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: I have a question. What is the process after that? How long -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: That day. COMMISSIONER GRIFE'IN: That day we can make a '-- `_ _ ~3 1 2 J 4 5 E 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 decision? COMMISSIONER LETZ; If we want to. COMMISSIONER GRIP'NIN: If we want to. COMMISSIONER LETZ; He says we should be able to. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Should be. COMMISSIONER. LETZ: And he's also going to -- the big boxes of stuff that we received, he will send five of those copies back for us to each Iook at one, and prior to the -- COMMISSIONER BALDW.IN: And the actual decision is choosing one of these teams? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Nothing else? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Nothing else. We choose the team, and then you go on to the negotiation with that team. And then, if we can't make a deal with one, we go to the next, on down the line. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: But after we select the team, DRG does that negotiating for us, right? For the contract, and bring back to us. That's one of their responsibilities. Otherwise, what are we getting from them? JUDGE HENNEKE: To a large extent, but it's the Commissioners Court that has final say. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Sure. 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Q 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 JUDGE HENNEKE: One of the things that the negotiation resulted in is a guaranteed maximum price. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN: Right. JUDGE HENNEKE: So we walk away at the end of that process knowing exactly what it's going to take. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I would think -- well, that's another topic. We can talk. about it after that, where we go after the initial selection. JUDGE HENNEKE: So -- COMMISSIONER BALDW:CN: 17th. JUDGE HENNEKE: -- the 17th starting at 1 o'clock. Do we have a motion to invite the top three teams, as evaluated by URG, to interview, beginning at 1 o'clock en the 17th, alotting approximately an hour for each? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think the motion would be to invite DRG to invite them. They're doing the inviting. JUDGE HENNEKE: We invite them and DRG sends out the notice. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: H11 right, yeah. 17th, 1 o'clock. COMMISSIONER. GRlr'rIN: Second. Was that a motion? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Phat will be a i~-, _ 1 3 4 5 b 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 -~ 23 24 25 zs motion. JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion by Commissioner Williams, second by Commissioner Griffin, that the Commissioners Court invite the top three qualifying design/build teams to participate in interviews beginning at 1 o'clock p.m. on Tuesday, December 17, Year 2002, here in the Kerr County Commissioners Court, with the County Judge to instruct DRG Architects to make contact with the design/build teams regarding interviews and the information they are to submit at those interviews. Any questions or comments? All in favor, raise your right hand. (Commissioners Williams, Letz, and Griffin voted in favor of the motion.) DODGE HENNEKE: Opposed, same sign. (Commissioner Baldwin voted against the motion.) JUDGE HENNEKE: Motion carries. Anything else? Okay, we're adjourned. Thank you. (Commissioners Court adjourned at ~:09 p.m.) i_-~-;, 2ti 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 JQ 21 22 23 24 ~5 STATE OF TEXAS COUNTY OF KERR The above and foregoing is a true and complete transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 3rd day of December, 2002. JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk Kathy B~~, Deputy County Clerk Certified Shorthand Reporter 15-~-0 QRDER fIQ. 7138ih RMCND DRIt_G1' WELLS COIUTRRCT Muw on this the 2nd day of December, EN~Z~_•, upon motion made by Commissioner Griffin, seconded 6y Commissioner Baldwin, the Co~.+r~t +.+nanimously approved 6y a vote of 4-0-0, to amend the Dailey Wells contract to incl~_~de replacing the Dictaphone radio recorder and p+.erchasing a 5-year maintenance contract: at a total cost oP ~13,0E17, with the f~.mds to came from the Contingency line item in the Dailey Wells contract, and author'i~e the County .T~_+dge to sign all doc~_imentation necessary to evidence the amendment. CIRDER IVCJ. c7881 INTERVIEW TOF' THREE DESIGN/BUILD TEAMS TO F'ARTICIf='ATE IN INTERVIEWS DECEMBER 17, '~Q~E' On this the C:nd day of December, ~'0Q~1_, upon motion made 6y Coinmissioner~ Williams, seconded by Commissioner- Griffin, the Co~_rr~t approved by a vote of 3-1-1, with Commi.ssi.oner Baldwin opposing the motion, to invite the tap three q~_ralifyiny design/b~_rild teams to par^ticipate in interviews beginrriny at 1 o'clock p. m. on Tuesday, December 17, c0~c, here in the I:err Cor_mty Commissioners Co~.trt, with the County .7~_rdge to instri_ict DRG Architects to make contar_t with the design/build teams r•egardiny interviews and the informa'tian they are to submit at tho=_e interviews.