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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Special Session
Thursday, December 4, 2003
1:00 p.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas
OPEN HEALTH INSURANCE BIDS
PRESENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge
H.A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 V
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 ~
ABSENT: JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
DAVE NICHOLSON, Commissioner Pct. 4
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On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 1:00 p.m., a special
meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the
Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville,
Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court:
P R O C E E D I N G S
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. It's a bit after 1 p.m.
I'll call to order the special Commissioners Court meeting
scheduled for this date, Thursday, December 4th, at 1 p.m.
Only item on the agenda is to open health insurance bids and
refer for review and evaluation.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: One, two, three,
four, five, six, looks like.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The "Honorable" Pat
Tinley. Who would that be? Oh, I see. We each get one.
You're Bill Williams.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS:
wonderful? Gosh, one with my name on
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN:
JUDGE TINLEY: We have
one is from Finley and Associates.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS:
volumes. Man, they're wonderful. An
Honor, is?
Oh, is that
it.
Judge.
in hand -- the first
I like these bound
d the second one, Your
JUDGE TINLEY: Second one we have is from
GreenTree Administrators, Inc.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Did you get this one?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Don't worry, it won't
JUDGE TINLEY: Next one is from Benefit
Planners. You'd think it was Christmastime, wouldn't you,
the way they're busting in.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This will give us
some practice for Christmas.
JUDGE TINLEY: The next one is presented by
Ray Rothwell, Employee Benefit Administrators, Inc., and
Bryan Finley. Next one is from the Texas Association of
Counties Health and Employee Benefits Pool. And the last
one is from Wallace and Associates, Insurance and Benefit
Consultants. That appears to be all of them. Ms. Alford?
MS. ALFORD: Yes, sir?
JUDGE TINLEY: These are all that were
submitted on a timely basis?
MS. ALFORD: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Those are all that we have.
Do I hear a motion that these be referred to the Auditor and
Personnel-slash-benefits specialist for review and
evaluation?
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think I'll second
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JUDGE TINLEY: All right. Motion made and
seconded that the proposals as submitted be referred to the
Auditor and Treasurer/Personnel benefits officer for review
and evaluation. Any further discussion? All in favor of
the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion does carry.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, before you
adjourn this court, I have a -- I have an issue I'd like to
bring up. It doesn't require any action; I just need to
kind of run something by you. Are you ready to do that, or
are you going to have discussion about this?
JUDGE TINLEY: Well, I don't know that we can
have any discussion about this. We wouldn't know what we
were discussing at this point, since we just opened it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is true.
JUDGE TINLEY: The only thing that I would
mention in connection with this business, because of the
time constraints that we're under, it may well be necessary
that we have to have a special meeting to consider the
review and award of the health insurance contract bid before
our meeting on the 22nd. We have a meeting this coming
Monday on the 8th, and it's obviously not on the agenda for
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then, but because of the -- because of the timeliness, we
may have to have a special -- special meeting for that
purpose, so I just wanted to mention that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir, I think
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Judge -- before you
do that, Buster, might it not be good for the record for the
folks who are in attendance to identify themselves and their
connection, just so we know who they are? Since we've
already opened the bids.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's start back here.
MR. FINLEY: Sir? I'm sorry?
JUDGE TINLEY: If you'll identify yourself
for the record so that we know that you're here and --
MR. FINLEY: I'm Bryan Finley. We submitted
bids in conjunction with E.B.A., with GreenTree, and with
TAC.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. And you, sir?
MR. KARLSKIN: I'm Brian Karlskin. I'm a
representative with Blue Cross and Blue Shield, as well as
with TAC.
JUDGE TINLEY: All right.
MS. KOLODZEY: My name is Kelly Kalodzey.
I'm with the Texas Association of Counties.
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MS. TAYLOR: And I'm Rhonda Taylor with
Taylor Insurance, and I submitted the bid and -- with the
Blue Cross/Blue Shield, and also under Bryan Finley, I
believe. Both of us submitted the same bid.
JUDGE TINLEY: Al] right. Sir?
MR. WALLACE: I'm Don Wallace with Wallace
and Associates from Seguin.
JUDGE TINLEY: All right.
MR. WALLACE: We submitted Mutual of Omaha,
Benefit Planners, and group administrators for your health.
We submitted some separate life quotes and some separate
dental quotes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you.
MR. WALLACE: Appreciate the opportunity.
JUDGE TINLEY: You bet you. We appreciate
you being here.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You're next.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is going to be
exciting for these folks, I know. We have -- we have -- or
I have dropped the ball on our annual Christmas party. I
know. I know, Bill. We try not to spend over --
MR. FINLEY: Can the rest of us leave, Judge?
Pardon me.
JUDGE TTNLEY: We may want to draft you to
pick up the ball.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah, maybe we're
going to throw the ball to you. Hang on a minute.
MR. WALLACE: Take up a collection.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So --
JUDGE TINLEY: This guy's been to one of
these rodeos before, I can tell. He said the magic word.
Pass the hat.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He wants to get out
before we say, "Buy the brisket, Brian."
MR. FINLEY: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We only need $300.
No, that's not true. Historically, the Commissioners Court
has pitched in $25 or $30 each to buy -- purchase meat, and
someone from the community would cook the meat for us. And
I'm not sure that we have cookers any more, so --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I can get you a
cooker.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, would you like
to pursue that avenue? I don't remember -- was it $25,
Thea, that we all pitched in?
MS. SOVIL: It's according to how much the
meat cost.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: How many briskets in
the past have we bought? That's the key.
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MS. SOVIL: We haven't done briskets in a
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Hams, briskets,
elephants. What -- how many -- what do we need?
MS. SOVIL: Well, I don't -- I figure half a
pound per person.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I agree with that.
And when we serve 125 --
MS. SOVIL: I look at the poundage, you know.
I'd get at least 50 pounds of meat, maybe 60.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, I still don't know
what to say, other than each one of us need to kick in $20,
$25, I guess, to purchase some meat. You think you'll find
a cooker?
COMMISSIONER WILLTAMS: I'll check this
afternoon and let you know real quick.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That would be good. I
like that route. That's the simplest route. We had kicked
around yesterday about running down to San Antonio trying to
purchase some hams and those kinds of things, but it got
real confusing for me.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm not interested in
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Briskets would be
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that kind of thing. So -- and then the day -- if you
remember, we normally close down the 24th at noon, or most
offices close down the 24th at noon, and that would be a
good day to have our luncheon downstairs, like, start
serving at 11:00, and, you know, each person around the
courthouse bring some kind of a dish to add to it, and we
start serving about 11:00, and then get through a little
after 12:00, and each elected official does what he wants
to. I'm going home, but, you know, whatever everybody wants
to do.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll probably already
be gone, but your plan sounds good.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I mean, just kind of
nod or something. I'm not looking for any --
JUDGE TINLEY: I'm confident that if
Commissioner Williams can find you a cooker, that you can
pick up and carry the ball from there, as long as you get
the funding.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's correct.
JUDGE TINLEY: I think the only -- what we
need to do is the members of this Court need to just create
a kitty to provide the funding, and whatever's required,
we're on the hook for it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You're on.
JUDGE TINLEY: And then, of course, the side
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dishes are provided by the employees, and they've always
managed to figure out how to do that themselves. But you're
going to need to let them know kind of what your thinking
is.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, really, my
question is, is the date -- is the date okay? And how we
want to do this meat thing, you know, if we want to -- and I
think that's a great plan.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Let me see if I can
line up a cook this afternoon, or in the morning at the
latest. Then we can determine how much we need to purchase
and whatever.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Isn't that the day
that the Judge hands out the pins? The awards and all?
JUDGE TINLEY: Service awards.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah, service awards.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We need to make sure
that that's done and in place as well.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Are we doing --
JUDGE TINLEY: You seem to bring that up --
are you kind of angling for one of those? Is that the deal?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I haven't gotten one
in a while; seems like it's my turn, you know. This
gold-watching, dead turkey stuff is getting old.
JUDGE TINLEY: We've got the turkey lined up.
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	COMMISSIONER	WILLIAMS:	Have	we always	done
it on	-- on Christmas Eve?	Or do we	do it	a day befo	re?
	MS. SOVIL:	The day --	no, w	e've done	it the
day b	efore we get off.				
	COMMISSIONER	WILLIAMS:	The	day before	we get
off,	which would mean here	what, the	23rd?		
	MS. SOVIL:	No, this y	ear it	would be	the
24th,	'cause we're off on t	he 25th an	d the	26th.	
	COMMISSIONER	WILLIAMS:	All	right.	
	COMMISSIONER	BALDWIN:	So the 24th is	the --
	MS. ALFORD:	We have a	half	day on the	24th,
too.
MS. SOVIL: Not officially.
MS. ALFORD: Yes.
MS. SOVIL: No, it's not in the --
MS. ALFORD:
MS. SOVIL:
COMMISSIONER
unofficially, we're going t
COMMISSIONER
you think that will work?
Yes, it is.
-- budget book.
WILLIAMS: Bottom line,
~ have a Christmas party, right?
BALDWIN: Yeah, whatever. So,
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Sure.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We're going to move
forward.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll check on it and
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let you know.
JUDGE TINLEY: I designated you as an
additional liaison responsible for official parties,
including Christmas.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: God, success finally.
I finally get a big one.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything further? We'll stand
adjourned.
(Commissioners Court adjourned at 1:14 p.m.)
STATE OF TEXAS ~
COUNTY OF KERR I
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as
County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County,
Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 4th day of December,
2003.
JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk
Kathy Ban, Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
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ORDER N0.28438
OPEN AND ACCEPT BIDS
HEALTH INSURANCE BIDS
On this the 4~` day of December, 2003 upon motion made by Commissioner
Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Court unanimously
approved by a vote of 2-0-0, to accept health insurance bids and that the
proposals as submitted be referred to the Auditor and Treasurer/Personnel benefits
officer for review and evaluation.