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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Special Session
Monday, February 27, 2006
9:00 a.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas
PRESENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge
H A."BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, CommissionerPCt. 2
JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
DAVE NICHOLSON, Commissioner Pct. 4

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February 27, 2006
-- Commissioners' Comments
1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on
funding request from Kerr County Sesquicentennial
Celebration
1.2 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
authorize Commissioners' Court to participate as
a body in Sesquicentennial Parade, April 8, 2006
1.3 Consideration/approval of Resolution supporting
application for renewal of Grant from Governor's
office for funding for Special Prosecutor for
Violent Crimes Against Women
1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
allow Road & Bridge to advertise for bid on
Town Creek Crossing improvements
1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on
Kerr County Organization Development Survey
1.6 Consider/approve appointment of Mr. Ben Alves to
unexpired 2-year term as Commissioner on Kerr
County ESD #2 Board of Commissioners
1.7 Set Public Hearing on Kerr County Subdivision
Rules and Regulations and Water Availability
Requirements
1.8 Consider/discuss appointment of David Billeiter
to the Kerr County Child Service Board
1.9 Order authorizing County to enter into financing
lease with Banc of America Leasing & Capital, LLC,
for purpose of financing the acquisition of computer
hardware & software from The Software Group
4.1 Pay Bills
4.2 Budget Amendments
4.3 Late Bills
4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports
5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee
Assignments
5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads
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On Monday, February 27, 2005, at 9:00 a.m., a special
meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the
Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, Kerrville,
Texas, and the following proceedings were had in open court:
P R O C E E D I N G S
JUDGE TINLEY: Let me call to order this regularly
scheduled meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court
scheduled for this date and time, Monday, February the 27th,
2006, at 9 a.m. It is that time now. Commissioner Letz?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Would everyone please stand and
join me in a moment of prayer followed by the pledge?
(Prayer and pledge of allegiance.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. At this time, if there's
any member of the audience or the public that wishes to be
heard on any matter that is not a listed agenda item, why,
you're free to come forward at this time. If you wish to be
heard on an agenda item, we would prefer that you fill out
participation form. They're located at the back of the room.
It's not essential, but it helps me to make sure that I don't
miss you when we get to that item, or hopefully it helps me
make sure that I don't. But if anybody has any comments or
anything they'd like to offer on anything that is not a listed
agenda item, you're free to come forward at this time and tell
us what's on your mind.
(No response.)
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JUDGE TINLEY: I see no one moving this direction,
so we'll move on. Commissioner 3, what do you have for us
this morning?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not much. We rer_eived
four-tenths of an inch in most of the eastern part of the
county, which is a little bit of a help. That was followed by
80-degree weather and sunshine, so all that evaporated up
within hours. We had one fire over the weekend I'm aware of
in my precinct due to the burn ban being lifted; therefore,
the burn ban's back on and will be on all week. I think
that's all I have.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner 4?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: There was a lot of burning
Saturday and Sunday, smoke all up and down the North Fork and
South Fork, and a lot of interesting burning. It just always
surprises me what an important issue it is to a lot of people.
I'd lifted the burn ban until 5 o'clock tomorrow. That's a
little bit risky. We got something over a half an inch
generally out there, and it's still muddy, but with a little
bit of wind and sunshine, grass tends to dry out pretty fast,
so I'm hoping people will be safe.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Y'all have mud?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: First time I've seen it
since last summer.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We can all load up, go out
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there and look at it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything further? Thank you.
Commissioner 1?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. I just want to
remind everyone that on March 17th at 10 o'clock out on the
courthouse, we'll have that blood drive that we had planned
on, and encourage everyone to attend that and give if you can.
Also, a hallelujah to the Lady Antlers of Tivy High School.
Basketball team is going to be in the state tournament next
week, and that means that they are one of four teams left in
the entire state of Texas, and that is an incredible feet in
itself. So, Superdome's a nice place to be this time of year.
That's all.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Commissioner 2?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Commissioner of Precinct 2
is just like Precinct 3 and others; no burning right now,
although we had a couple changes this past week. And there
were some fires in the area, but I didn't hear anything got
out of control. But it's business as usual right now, no
burning.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything further?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay, thank you. Let's move on with
the agenda. We've got a fairly short agenda today, and first
item on the agenda is to consider, discuss, and take
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appropriate action on a funding request from the Kerr County
Sesquicentennial Celebration to assist in sesquicentennial
activities. This was a matter that Mr. Joe Herring, Jr.,
pretty extensive activities that he's got planned.
Mr. Herring?
MR. HERRING: My names Joe Herring. I reside here
in Kerrville, 431 Meadow Ridge. I'm assisted by Brian Bondy,
the president of the Chamber of Commerce. Gentlemen, we have
pass out a little card that'll be in the Kerrville Telephone
Company bills this -- this next month. And then I have some
posters I'm going to pass out; ask that if y'all could find a
home for these posters, I'd appreciate that. When you have an
event like this, with entertainment like this and venues like
this, and you want it to be free for all the citizens, it
costs some money. We have been very successful in our
y'all an opportunity to be a sponsor as well. I've already
graciously put your logo here on our poster as a sponsor,
hoping that you'll be positive and generous with me today.
Let met briefly run over what we're planning.
Friday, April 7th, Governor Rick Perry will be here at the
courthouse to proclaim Kerr County Days in Texas and start off
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our event. We're also going to recognize all of the senior
citizens, 90 -- 90 years old and older, here that day from all
the communities across the county. In 1955, they recognized
the eldest native citizen of each community. Because the
world has changed a little bit, I think we're just going to
recognize anybody who's over 90 from any community within Kerr
County. They don't have to be native; just have to be a
resident or citizen of Kerr County. That evening, Friday
evening, we're goinq to have an event which celebrates not
only the -- celebrates not only musically, but in other ways,
our -- the different cultures that have made up our history.
We have some Indian dancers. The Mt. Olive Baptist Church
choir will be here, a mariachi band, an oom-pah band, and
special guest, country and western singer Darrell McCall.
Then, Saturday, we have a big parade. I hope y'all
will be in the parade. I haven't seen an application yet from
you guys, but I hope y'all get in there and are at least
represented in that parade. Sue Steele is the chair of that
event -- I'm sorry, the Friday night event is chaired by Linda
Somerville. Then Saturday evening, we have a big birthday
bash in the park. you'll note at 4 p.m., we have opening
ceremonies. I hope that some of you will be available to make
remarks at the openinq ceremonies. And then several other
bands, ending up with Gary P. Nunn, and then at dark-30,
fireworks provided by H.E.B. Grocery Company. Sunday will be
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a heritage memorial service at 3 p.m. at the Schreiner Dietert
Chapel Auditorium, and the Schreiner University choir will be
singing, and the featured speaker will be Dr. Sam Dunkin. Can
I answer any questions about the event or the request that
we've made?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Joe, do you know -- I had
seen in the paper, and I may have misread it, but I reported
to the Court that the applications for the parade, I thought I
read February 15th was the due date.
MR. HERRING: No, the due date will be right before
the parade, about April 5. You still have time.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I talked with Sue Steele,
who's the chairman for Saturday night, and indicated to her
that we had an item on our agenda to talk about it. And if
the Court agrees to the sense of the item, I'll be in touch
with her after court today.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: And there's some ancillary
things going on at the same time. Friday -- I'm sorry,
Thursday, there will be a style show, the annual Springtime
Splendor of the Chamber. And then the Museum of Western Art,
what used to be the Cowboy Artist's Museum, has a special
exhibit for children which will offer a reduced ticket all
weekend for adults, and children are free, to see what life
was like in the mid-1800's. The Riverside Nature Center will
have a special Saturday. The Kerr County Historical
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Commission will have living history displays at the Union
Church also Saturday, and Friday. And then Saturday night is
also the ?0th annual Hill Country Charity Ball. So, a lot's
going on. What we try to do, and what they did in 1956, is a
lot of things were going all at one time under the umbrella of
the sesquicentennial celebration.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Joe, is your funding
MR. HERRING: We have found that there are things,
when I go to donors and ask them to support this, that they
are readily willing to support, but there are other things
that also cost money that people probably don't want to have
their name associated with, that are still very necessary.
One that comes to mind are port-a-pottys. No one really wants
to sponsor the port-a-pottys.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You want the Court to
associate with port-a-pottys?
MR. HERRING: No, I don't necessarily want to put
your name on the port-a-pottys, and yet I still want to
provide those for our citizens for that event. So, yes, there
are some event -- there are some costs that are associated
with the event which it's hard to get a major underwriter to
say, "Oh, yeah, put my name on that." So -- and the City of
Kerrville has done the same thing. The City is waiving all
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fees, all permits. They're paying for all salary costs of all
their street crews, the fire crew. The police department will
be used in the parade and security of all events. So, I mean,
there are some things that governments can do that really will
help. And what we were hoping is that -- yeah, y'all have
given your blessing to this, but we'd like you to also be a
sponsor as well. And, honestly, a lot of people, when I
approach them to be a sponsor, they say, "Well, what's the
County doing?" And I've said you've been very supportive, but
a financial commitment would be nice, too.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: I move we approve the
request for $2,500.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second it, but I certainly
have some questions.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded to approve
the agenda item to provide financial assistance in the amount
of $2,500 to assist with r_osts of the sesquicentennial
activities. Any questions or discussion?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. $2,500. Are we
talking about $2,500 cash, or are we talking about $2,500
worth of in-kind services, or what -- what were you thinking?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: My --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Your name's on the agenda.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yes, sir. The request that came to
me was that because most of these are -- are being -- all of
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these events are being held inside the city of Kerrville, City
of Kerrville is providing in-kind assistance. They've run
some numbers on it, and I think that number runs upwards of
$7,500, doesn't it?
MR. HERRING: That's a fairly conservative estimate
of their contribution.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah. And, so, the request to us is
-- is a cash request at this point.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Now, I want to follow that up
with a question. Can we use public money for such things?
MR. EMERSON: Public money for a public celebration?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm.
MR. EMERSON: I don't think there's a problem with
that, as far as I know.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I double-second it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is there a particular line
item that somebody wishes that it be taken from?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's a good question.
MR. HERRING: I think it comes completely out of
Precinct 2, from what I've... (Laughter.)
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Road and Bridge fund.
MR. HERRING: We appreciate -- and also, any
feedback you have on it, we just -- you know, we're not at the
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: I'm really impressed with
the organization of this.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Me, too.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: It's a large and complex
project, and I don't know what I expected, but it's being done
very, very well.
MR. HERRING: That's Brian Bondy's responsibility.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: All of you involved in it,
my hat's off to you.
MR. HERRING: Thank you. I think it's going to be a
fun event. I notice the Ingram Chamber -- I'm sorry, the West
Kerr County Chamber recently had their annual Chamber banquet,
and they celebrated 150 years, so it's all over the county.
It's a nice thinq. In May, I'm hearing rumors that the phone
book will feature a sesquicentennial theme, so -- in
Kerrville.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's figure out where the money's
going to come from, gentlemen.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is there anything in the
Commissioners Court --
JUDGE TINLEY: Contingency?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: -- Contingency fund?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm afraid that we've just about
-- my recollection is we've about depleted most of our
contingency-type funds.
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COMMISSIONER. NICHOLSON: What about Parks?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There is some Parks money,
but I think it's committed to the bridge connecting the two
park pieces together.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rusty isn't here this morning.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Where's Rusty?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Get some of his.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We need Rusty. Where's
Rusty?
JUDGE TINLEY: His officers are going to be relieved
of some -- possibly some of the security function, the
overflow security function, and that may have been the point
of your question, I suspect.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It was.
JUDGE TINLEY: I suspect that it was. But he's
probably the principal beneficiary of -- of it beinq cash
rather than in-kind, I would suspect. I don't know what
remains in the --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Why don't we --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Check with the Auditor, see
if we can --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: During the Auditor's section, we
can find out where that money can come from. See if Rusty has
some available from one of his salary line items. At this
point in the year, we're...
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JUDGE TINLEY: Subject to a determination of --
merely a determination, but only that, are there any other
questions or comments on the motion?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Not on the motion. I wanted
to say that you have -- you really have some great
entertainment, Mr. Bondy. Some really good entertainment.
This Darrell McCall guy, I don't know; he's -- he's kind of
faded into the background the last few years, but what a
great, great entertainer. He has a voice like Ray Price, and
he does "Frisky Liver."
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That bombed out, didn't it?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think -- like "Whiskey
River"?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: "Whiskey River," only his is
"Frisky Liver."
JUDGE TINLEY: We'll give you another shot at that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, I'll bring that back
after lunch.
MR. HERRING: He may take requests.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's hard to be funny in here
any more.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Especially at 9:00 in the
morning.
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what line item the funds are going to be taken from, all in
favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry.
MR. HERRING: I do hope to see y'all at some of the
events, all of the public events. Bring a lawn chair. It's
probably going to be a little crowded. And I think it's going
to be a good thing. Also, because all our events are outside,
we almost virtually guarantee rain for that weekend.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Be careful.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mr. Herring, we appreciate all your
~ ettorts.
MR. HERRING: You're welcome.
JUDGE TINLEY: And the efforts of the Chamber. And
I keep seeing lots of things several times a week of the work
that you're doing on this thing, and as Commissioner Nicholson
said, y'all are really grabbing hold of this thing and really
getting it up and running, and we appreciate it.
MR. HERRING: Be a lot of fun. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Joe, one last thing. Are these
intended to go out to our precincts, or to put in the
courthouse, or where do you --
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some more. Brian has those.
MR. BONDY: A whole bunch of them.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'd like to have a couple
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I would put two in Comfort.
Even though it's not -- it's adjoining the county; a lot of
the residents live there. Then we can put some in the
courthouse as well.
MR. HERRING: Yeah, that'd be fine. And you can get
as many as you need. We want to get the word out. Obviously,
putting them in the phone bill thing will help, but only if
you have a Y.errville telephone, so -- we asked the other
telephone people. They can't do inserts. We've tried to get
it everywhere. It's -- it's a little logistically hard to get
the word out to everyone, so the posters will really help, if
you can distribute it. Thank you, guys.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Appreciate your efforts.
Let's go to the next item on the agenda; consider, discuss,
and take appropriate action to authorise Commissioners Court
to participate as a body in the Sesquicentennial Parade on
Saturday, April the 8th, 2006. Commissioner Williams?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I had a chanr_e meeting with
Mr. Bondy at the -- at Mindy Wendele's office -- Main Street
office, and he advised me that City Council was, in fact,
doing a float and will all be present on the float, and asked
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Mindy if any Commissioners, individual, or the Judge or
anybody representing Kerr County had applied for -- filed an
application for the parade, and she said no, nobody yet. And,
so, it dawned on me that we should be there. After all, it
is our celebration. And if the City Council's going to be
en masse on a float, why can't Commissioners be en masse
somewhere in that parade? So --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before the City Council, is what
you're saying?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh, absolutely. Since it's
our parade, our celebration, right. So the question, then, is
what do we need? Do we walk? Do we ride? Do we take a snow
sleigh, or what do we do? I did know at one time of a
refurbished 1939 dairy truck that I knew who did it and I knew
where it was, so I went to see that gentleman, and it no
longer exists; he has sold it. But -- but he did have a 1922
T Model Ford police patrol wagon in vintage condition.
Commissioner Baldwin has seen these; I'll show these to you.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Commissioner Baldwin's been
in the back of it before. (Laughter.)
JUDGE TINLEY: A paddy wagon, I believe.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It's called a paddy wagon,
exactly. And he also has a 1927 Chevrolet tourinq car, and
he'd be willing to make -- we talked about that being
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available, but we need to talk about how that would happen, if
the Court's going to be a part of that. That has a driver,
which will be the gentleman who owns this, and his name is Lee
Wildman. He lives in your precinct, Commissioner. And he
restores cars -- a cabinetmaker by trade, and he restores
these things beautifully. If we were of a mind to use that
vehicle, there's space on the side that says -- where a sign
needs to be placed that says, "Kerr County Commissioners
Court." Mr. Wildman would drive the vehicle, and there would
be a member of this Court sitting next to the driver. There
are big handles on the side and big running boards, and two
members of the Court could either run alongside or grab on
those handles and ride the running board. And the back the
doors swing open, and there's a stair there -- metal stair,
and two Commissioners could sit in the back with the door
open. Commissioner, now, that's one way you could do that
using that vehicle. if that was not an appropriate approach,
perhaps he could find someone else to drive both of his
vehicles in the -- in the parade. And the other is a touring
car, and the touring car only holds four. So, you know, the
idea is to be in the parade, and there's a couple suggestions.
If anybody else has a better suggestion, bring it out.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think the key at the moment is
to probably vote to be able to allow us to be, as a body, in
the parade, and I think then we can figure out the best way to
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accomplish that. There are quite a few different size
trailers, tractors, things like that in the Comfort area that
are used extensively in parades, and some of them have
trailers. I'm thinking that an old, vintage tractor with a
vintage trailer behind it may be another alternative, but I
think really the best thing to do is to -- let's vote, and I
make a motion to --
MS. UECKER: I think you ought to ride bicycles.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, does it have to be posted?
Is that the -- how do we allow ourselves to be in the parade?
Do we post a meeting? Do you just authorize us to be -- I
mean, I think --
MR. EMERSON: You've just got to post it to be
there. You're not going to be conducting any officia] county
business, but --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We11, I don't know that we need
I a motion.
MR. EMERSON; -- just to cover your tail.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll just post a meeting on
the -- of course, it won't be in the courthouse.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: The posted notice will be
the Commissioners Court participating in the SesquLcentennial
Parade.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. Just -- we'll post that,
and let's get -- and I'll make a few phone calls and see what
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-- and we'll look at various other avenues to get into the
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: I like that approach.
We're probably also all going to be present when the
governor's here on April the 7th. Do we need to take care of
that also?
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we should probably post
each of these events. Each of these events, just post it and
just have them all listed at one time.
COMMISSIONER WILL7AMS: Right, because we're going
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: I just think celebration of
events, April 7th through 9th, any and all.
JUDGE TINLEY: We can list them all separately.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We just list them all on one
agenda, one listing.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: So, your motion is that we --
Commissioners Court participate in a Sesquicentennial Parade
on April the 8th, 006, details to be worked out later?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. And we'll post all
events for the Court to be able to attend all of them if we so
choose.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: That needs a second? I
second.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Commissioner Baldwin
I seconded.
JUDGE TINLEY: Did you?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Whatever.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I thought you did. I'm
sorry.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I did.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Sorry I didn't catch it.
Motion made and seconded for the Commissioners Court to
participate in the Sesquicentennial Parade on April 8th, 2006,
the details to be confirmed later, and that all the
sesquicentennial events be posted for participation by members
of Commissioners Court. Any question or discussion?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just --
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: One question. How are we
going to bring this -- make the decision about the parade
equipment?
JUDGE TINLEY: I think each Commissioner -- every
member of the Court ought to have an opportunity to put
something in the mix, and then we'll collectively decide which
way to qo.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Pt our next meeting, we can
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON; Okay.
COMMISSIONEP, BALDWIN: I just wanted to make the
comment that, you know, I had previously talked about going
off on my own, in my own vehicle to ride in, and that's
because I want to haul my wife with me, and still want to do
that,
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON; That'll work.
JUDGE TINLEY: And --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, so, if we go that route
or, you know, if we all bring our wives, I think maybe these
vehicles could be a little bit small.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There are a couple other
options. Couple other options to go along with this line.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But the flatbed trailer is
the way to go. I can -- I can see putting a rocking chair on
that thing and rocking, with Gary P. Nunn.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we can just, you know, come
up with different ideas, think about it. I'll try to find out
what's available in my precinct; others can do likewise.
COMMLSSIONER WILLIAMS: If we approve the motion,
I'll notify Sue Steele we will be in the parade. That's what
she needs to know.
JUDGE TINLEY: I think that's the important thing,
you know, that we'll participate in it and work it out later.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: And one more --
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before the City.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll tell her --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But she --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll tell her that
privately.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Actually, see, the governor's
not going be in the parade, so I can see a fire truck and
maybe the Sheriff.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: No.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But right in there somewhere
is us. No fire chiefs, no commode cleaners, none of that
stuff. Us.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I get the message.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Well, I've said this a
whole bunch of times already, so -- now, are we bringing back
the mechanics of floats next meeting?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll bring back some mire
options in addition to these, and anybody else who has
options, bring them back.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, next meeting.
JUDGE TINLEY: I think we've got at least two
meetings to --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- to hash around on that. If the
entries are not going to close until early April, immediately
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before the event, we'll have plenty of time to work out the
details.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Riqht, but I think we do need to
commit to the --
JUDGE TINLEY: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- person doing it, whoever's
going to be supplying the equipment, whatever it is.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: If they want to go elsewhere.
MS. UECKER: You know, the Neunhoffers do have those
vintage vehicles.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I understand Julius is going
to be in the parade with a vehicle, but I don't know what.
I've got a call in to him, too.
MS. DECKER: Okay, good.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: To find out what it is he's
planning to do. But the Judge maybe could ride alongside with
Julius; I don't know. A lot of options.
MS. UECKER: Yeah, there you go.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And the Historical
Commission needs to be represented. Maybe that's what Julius
is doing there; I don't know. I'll find out.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any further question or discussion on
the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising
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your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
DODGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to
the next item, consider and approval of resolution supporting
an application for the renewal of grant from the governor's
office for funding for special prosecutor for Violent Crimes
Against Women, sometimes commonly referred to as V.A.W.A.
MR. EMERSON: Correct. And I'm filling in for
Ms. Bailey today; she's currently upstairs in district court.
There is not any imposed cost increase to the County above
what the ~~urrent grant was. And although I do not have her
report in front of me, I know the last statistics page I saw,
her numbers were about 15 to 20 percent above what was
proposed in the initial grant, and growing. So, I know from
my perspective, and my understanding is from both District
Attorneys' perspective, the position's been very fruitful.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval of the agenda
item.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. The last report was
very good.
DODGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of the agenda item. Any question or discussion? All in favor
of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
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(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to
Item 4; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to
allow Road and Bridge to advertise for bids on Town Creek
Crossing improvements.
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. When TexDOT funded the Hermann
Sons Bridge, they waived $110,485 to be paid by Kerr County if
Kerr County agreed to commit those funds elsewhere for
drainage and bridge purposes. At that time, we committed to
use these funds to upgrade two locations on Town Creek. Hearn
Engineering has done the engineering bid package. At this
time, we are asking the Court to allow us to go out for bids
on construction for the first Town Creek Crossing. I'm open
for any questions.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just wanted to make a
comment about it. Here's another time that Leonard and -- and
his crew is out in front of the game. The -- the Holdsworth
Loop issue is coming in that area, and there is going to be,
in my mind, quite a bit more traffic thrown on Town Creek
Road. He's preparing for that, and we're going to be out in
front of that thing. And when would -- when would the -- the
job be finished?
MR. ODOM: Well, if we -- if we start, it's about 90
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probably going to go with it; that it could be at 50 days to
70 days in there that -- from the time we start. What we need
now, the only thing we're waiting on is to get the commitment
for construction easement on both sides of it. And once I get
that, then the packet will be out for bid and we'll set the
Gate explicitly for that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, we're way out in front of
the Holdsworth Road --
MR. ODOM: So, sometime this summer -- to answer
your question, sometime this summer, we start.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, my hat's off to Road and
Bridge Department for being able to see down the road and --
or see down the bridge.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Over the bridge.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Over the bridge and down the
dale. So, I move for approval -- let's see here -- approve
Road and Bridge Department to advertise for bid on Town Creek
Crossing improvements.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JQDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of the agenda item. Any question or discussion on the motion?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Two different crossings,
right?
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. At this -- what we're trying
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to do, we'll see where we're -- once we get this bid, we'll
know what the money situation is, and then we'll go out for
the engineering on the other one and we'll address that as we
go along. But I need to spend that 110,000. We feel like
that will be used up either with this project, and the other
engineering may go in and we'll address it in a year or two.
We tiad three years from the time of completion to do this, and
that's what we're trying to stay ahead of the game.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions or comments? All
in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does ~~arry.
COMMISSIONEP. LETZ: Judge, before -- I think maybe I
can ask this. Is there a match or a similar requirement on
the highway bridge? Or the city --
MR. ODOM: No, they went 100 percent. I don't
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
MR. ODOM: That was 100 percent. We had to
contribute nothing on that one.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. I know --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Give any right-of-way?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, a long time ago.
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MR. ODOM: Long time ago. We did buy some
right-of-way; I think it was from Dr. Lewis, I believe. Or --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We condemned it, actually.
MR. ODOM: Yeah. But that's been three, four years
ago, maybe, in that process.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Longer, I think. But, anyway...
JUDGE TINLEY: I think the last condemnation portion
just got concluded last year or year before last.
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: Over -- it's on the segment between
Junction Highway and Turtle Creek Road.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY": Okay, thank you.
MR. ODOM: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's go to the next item; consider,
i discuss, and take appropriate action on Kerr County
Organization Development Survey. Which one of you gentlemen
wants to run with this?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Well, I think what we have
here is, in our last meeting, I showed you a copy of a survey
form that me and Commissioner Letz developed. We weren't very ',
specific about how we would proceed, so we thought it'd be
good to get it back on the agenda so that we can raise any
concerns or issues about it and go forward. What we're trying
to do here, of ~~ourse, is to gather some information that
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would be useful to us in our -- the so-called off-season
meetings we committed to that look at the ways we organize our
work and how we accomplish it, to see if there's ways to do it
better. So, that's -- that's what this is about. ~'
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the other view, I think, to
add one more point, was that the -- the, I think, intent of
the Court has been that the Court wants this done, and we felt
that it should come out under a court order, as opposed to two
Commissioners, and to let the other department heads and
elected officials understand this is something the Court as a
whole is requesting prior to this year's budget process.
JUDGE TINLEY: You had something?
MR. EMERSON: Just one quick comment. And I didn't
know this was coming out, but about a month ago, based on
comments in court, I requested from the Texas Association of
Counties a publication that they have that specifically
addresses the organizational constitutional duties of the
offices, and I've not received that yet. We called last week
and checked, and it's -- supposedly, it's on the way.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. This -- you know, and I'm
aware that there's -- that, to me, is a component of it. But
I think the -- the missing part of that is the man hours it
takes to do -- to do that fun~~tion, as to how much -- I mean,
you know, I see Linda here, so I'll pick on Linda. You know,
how many of her employees are required to do her
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constitutional duties versus the few other things that she
does, such as passports, which is a minimal thing -- or maybe
it's not minimal. But just trying to get an idea as to what
the constitutional duties require versus what other functions
require, and how much time we're spending county-wide on
things that we don't have to do by the Constitution. So, it's
just kind of a -- and it's not -- I wouldn't -- Dave and I
were looking at this. It's going to be -- it's somewhat
subjective, I think, when we get this back, because, I mean,
people aren't that regimented in their job assignments. I
mean, you don't have this person doing this, this, and this,
so it's going to be a little bit of an estimation. That's why
we're relying on the expertise of other elected officials and
department heads as to kind of give us an idea of how much
time is being required to do each of the functions in their
office.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: All department heads and all
elected officials?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: (Nodded.)
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of the agenda item to be distributed to the -- the
Organizational Development Survey to be distributed to all
elected officials and department heads for response as
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indicated. Any question or discussion on the motion?
MS. UECKER: Yeah. I -- looking at the survey, it
would almost make sense to -- if you want to do this, that
each separate employee is going to have to complete a survey
on their own, because I don't think one person can do it all.
You know, if you're looking for 100 percent of hours, you
know, accountable hours for, in my case, seven employees, then
I think what you're going to need is to have each employee do
a survey, just like we did for the Nash study.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Why can't the department
heads provide it to each employee, and then pull it all
together into one report?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't disagree with that at
all, Linda, but I think I'm uncomfortable asking your
employees to do something. And I think I want to give it to
you, and then you can either -- and each department head or
elected official can do it as they want. I think that -- you
know, I --
MS. UECKER: You know, I don't have any problem
doing it. Now, there is a book about that thick that's called
a District Clerk's Manual that lists all of that. It doesn't
say what that -- what the hours are.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think -- yeah.
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: This doesn't have to be
very precise.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We're talking -- yeah.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: We just want to get a good
estimate, like -- first, we want to learn what we do. We
don't -- none of the five of us have a complete understanding
of all the work that's done in the county, so we want to learn
what we do, and then just some estimate about who does it and
how much man hours it takes. Precision is not important.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, we -- I mean, I don't
know how -- you said there's a book this thick for your -- for
your office. Clearly, I don't expect you to go by every
little item and say, "This takes .3 hours per week, and this
takes .1 hour." We're talking about -- you know, lump things
together in as large of categories as you can, but still be
meaningful.
MS. UECKEF.: Okay. Well --
JUDGE TINLEY: You're suggesting that maybe we need
to extend the deadline to allow for a little bit more time?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That can be --
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Sure.
MS. UECR:ER: Yeah. Because, you know, I -- I've
got -- I've qot so much that overlaps that almost everybody
does almost everything.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mm-hmm.
MS. UECKER: And it just depends on -- on the needs
and who's available and, you know, what's going on. And I'm
trying to think how I can assign hours to --
COMMISSIONEP. NICHOLSON: See, when -- let me give
you an example. And, again, I know not very much about what's
done. I would think in terms of big buckets. If I were in
the Tax Collector/Assessor's office, one item might be collect
license plate fees or whatever that is.
MS. UECKER: So, you want it very general.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Four people, 90 hours a
week, and that's as detailed as I need to know there. And I
didn't mean, you know, fill out this form, keep all that.
Just --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And more specific to your
office, like, how much time do -- working with the district
courts? To me, that's one item. I don't care what they're
doing as much. You know, it's more that these man hours are
assigned to the district courts. These are assigned to
keeping track of all the different trusts and things that you
have to keep track of and all that kind of stuff.
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spends with 198th and how much with 216th?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not really.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just lump all that --
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not really. They're district
courts. I mean, and whether -- and that's the -- you know,
that's the issue to me, as to how much time is going to that
one job funr_tion, which is courts.
JUDGE TINLEY: With that explanation, what does that
do for you on the -- on the response time?
MS. DECKER: Well, considering some -- a lot of
other obligations I have between now and then, I would like,
you know, a little more time.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: March 20th? No problem.
MS. DECKER: I know Jannett's doing an election; I
don't know what that does for her.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can do it, you know, March --
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: That's good.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: March 20th is good. Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Work for you?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MS. PIEPER: May I ask what the survey's supposed to
show y'all? I mean, we -- every several years, we qo through
some kind of survey. All it does is take up our time.
i Nothing comes out of it.
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budget time. We get requests all the time as to what's going
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questions.
MS. PIEPER: Well, if you want this very general,
it's not going to give you enough information anyway.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it does.
MS. PIEPER: Seems like if you just take a trip to
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm in your office.
MS. PIEPER: -- that would help.
COMMISSIONEP. WILLIAMS: Won't hurt anything.
MS. PIEPER: Right.
' JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions or comments on
the motion?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: If you choose -- anyone who
chooses not to do it, that tells us something, too. So, if
you don't --
MS. PIEPER: I'll do it, but I don't -- I mean, it's
going to be general, because I have elections.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions or comments? All
in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
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Item E, if we might; consider and approve the appointment of
Mr. Ben Alves of Mountain Home to an unexpired two-year term
as a Commissioner on the Kerr County Emergency Service
District Number 2 Board of Commissioners, vacancy created by
the resignation of Mr. F.C. Henson. Mr. Nicholson?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Mr. Alves comes recommended
to us by a number of residents in the Mountain Home area. He
lives off Highway 41, retired businessman. He and his wife
are very active in -- in giving back to the community. And
from all the reports I have, he'll be a good and valuable
member of the -- of the ESD, and he'll probably be able to
help put things back on the track that they need to be on, so
I move that we approve Mr. Ben Alves.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of the agenda item to appoint Mr. Ben Alves of Mountain Home
to an unexpired two-year term as a Commissioner on the Kerr
County Emergency Service District Number 2 Board of
Commissioners. Any question or discussion? All in favor of
the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to
the next item, set a public hearing on Kerr County Subdivision
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Rules and Requlations and Water Availability Requirements.
Commissioner Letz?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: As the backup showed, the -- due
to unexpected circumstances, the notice was never posted for
the public hearing, so we need to reset the public hearing and
qet it posted properly.
JODGE TINLEY: Does that require 30 days?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's what -- I don't believe
it requires any notice. I think we've always given it 30
days. If -- if there's no problem, I'd like to go with our
next Commissioners Court meeting. I think the -- many of the
public that are aware were planning to be here today, 'cause
they knew about it, and I said, "No, we're not going to do it
today because of the posting." But I think we can probably
do -- a two-week posting on it should be adequate, as long as
we get it in the paper this week.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: There is -- is quite a bit
of interest in it, and that's good. I hope people show up and
help us make the right decision.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, to me, another two weeks
certainly doesn't hurt anything, so I would make a motion that
we set the public hearing for Monday, March 13th, at --
Monday, March 13th, at 1:30.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Second.
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hearing for both the Subdivision Rules and Regulations and
Water Availability.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Who's going to post it this
time -- advertise it?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Kathy will make sure it gets
posted. Correct?
MS. MITCHELL: Usually the Clerk's office does that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
MS. MITCHELL: But I will make sure that --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Get with Jannett, make sure it
gets posted.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you a question.
You may have just -- probably did just answer it, but isn't
all notices done by the County Clerk's office?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Road and Bridge does theirs, the
street names and those, I believe. And that's where the
confusion came on this one, because it's a --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, water availability is a
long ways from a street name. I mean --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Subdivision Rules.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- I don't see the confusion,
why it was confused, but I'm kind of with Commissioner
Williams here. Who is going to do it?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: County Clerk.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you.
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JUDGE TINLEY: Any further question or comment on
the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising
your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to
the next item; consider, discuss, and appointment of David
Billeiter to the Kerr County Child Services Board.
Commissioner Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. We're adding
another person of integrity to this board, and when we get
this board up and running the way we want to, everybody in
town is going to want to know now we did it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: They'll be on the board.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. I guess I'll have to
get on the board.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: They'll all be on the board.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Have to wait till next
election time before I get on it, but --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, that's why we have -- so,
there's a vacancy we're filling?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes. There's a vacancy we're
filling, yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And I probably -- maybe we
have a couple more to go. But, anyway, David's a good guy and
a perfect person for this thing. Good fit. I move that we
approve David Billeiter as a member of the Kerr County Child
Service Board.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JODGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for the
appointment of David Billeiter to the Kerr County Child
Services Board. Any question or discussion on the motion?
All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right
hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: A11 opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. We'll go to
Item 9, order authorizing the County to enter into a financing
lease with Bank of America Leasing and Capital, L.L.C., for
purpose of financing the acquisition of certain computer
hardware and software from The Software Group, a division of
Tyler Technologies, Inc., and authorizing the County Judge to
approve and execute the final form of a Master Equipment
Lease/Purchase Agreement with Banc of America Leasing and
Capital, L.L.C., and all of the documents deemed necessary
related thereto, and approving other matters related to such
lease financing. I put this on the agenda so we could
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conclude with the purchase or lease, whichever, the
transaction on the upgrade of the computer hardware and
software system that the Court had approved. As the Court
will recall, it's $1,030,000. It will be paid over a
five-year term, interest rate or factor of 4.015 percent.
County Attorney has --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Four point what, Judge?
JUDGE TINLEY: 4.015. Speaking from memory, but I'm
i pretty sure that's correct. I've got a pretty good grasp of
those numbers.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: 4.015.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm. Mr. Emerson?
MR. EMERSON: Yes, sir. i
JUDGE TINLEY: You've had an opportunity to review
the documents?
MR. EMERSON: Yes, sir, reviewed the documents. It
appears to be standard language pursuant to bank records. And
based on the amount of exposure on this being over a million
dollars, I did take the documents and forward them to a
private attorney who's experienced in banking matters and
asked them to back me up. And they took a look at the
documents and were comfortable with them also.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fantastic.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: First amortization payment
is due when? Budget year?
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JUDGE TINLEY: It's '07. February or March, '07, I
believe, somewhere in that range.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, this gets paid off in '012?
JUDGE TINLEY: '11.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: '17?
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm, five-year.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, okay. There was -- only
question I have, just -- I didn't go back and check. I know
it refers at one point in here to a date in -- of a January
10th meeting, a vote that we took, a record vote we took. Is
that date correct in here? 'Cause I don't recall taking a
rer_ord vote on this in January. Somewhere back in here. T
should have highlighted it, but I was feeding Gus at the time
and didn't have a pen.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Poor Gus.
JUDGE TINLEY: A legitimate excuse.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Seemed like my recollection, it
was towards the back.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, while y'all are doing
that, should we get the Auditor in here to --
JUDGE TINLEY: That -- yeah. We're fixing to get --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- talk about several things?
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Attachment G, Page 1.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Attachment G.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: About this far back. It refers
to a January 10th -- and I'm sure -- I presume someone checked
that, but I just...
JUDGE TINLEY: Necessarily, that date would need to
be changed to reflect the current date.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That should be today's date?
JUDGE TINLEY: I believe so, yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. I wasn't sure if it
was -- the date was -- needed to be changed, or if we did a
vote back then that --
DODGE TINLEY: No, that's the -- that's the agenda
i item that's posted for today where that matter was considered.
7'm not certain why we got the January 10th --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Change that to today's date?
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah. That`ll be -- that'll be
modified to today's date necessarily, yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. i
MS. WILLIAMS: Morning.
(Discussion off the record.)
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Spent the whole weekend on
it, huh? I'm impressed.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Got to do something at 5 o'clock
in the morning, sitting in front of the fireplace with Gus.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He read all this stuff.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, right.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Absolutely.
JUDGE TINLEY: You obviously didn't catch --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The other typo?
JUDGE TINLEY: -- the one which is on -- let me see
where it is. Maybe you did and you're just laying back. On
Attachment A of Schedule A, Number 1, Lessee's Acceptance
Certificate. Schedule A, Attachment A, Page 1.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't see it.
JUDGE TINLEY: On about Page 6, I guess. County
Clerk's just joined my family.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, yes. Jannett Pieper Tinley.
JUDGE TINLEY: I don't have a motion yet, do I?
MS. THOMPSON: No.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval, with a couple of
corrections we noted.
I COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: aecond.
~ JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded, with the
proviso that any typos or date corrections be made. Any
question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Does any
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member of the Court have any item to be considered in closed
or executive session? Let's move to the approval agenda.
First item is payment of the bills.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I have one question.
7n the bills, on Page 3, 216th District Court. I see all
these attorneys, you know, and you see one bill here for
2,000, and a lot of them are 350, and maybe a 900, and, you
know, there's many here. But there's one for $25,000.
JUDGE TINLEY: I noted that also, Commissioner. I
hope that's a typo.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's not?
MS. WILLIAMS: No. This is on a capital murder
case, and it was on an appeal.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that the --
MS. WILLIAMS: Ramiro Hernandez,
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I can't remember which --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that supposed to impress
somebody, that -- his name or something? I mean, I don't get
it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: What was -- what --
MS, WILLIAMS: If I remember correctly, this is the
one that the murder was committed -- the rancher. I cannot
think cf the gentleman's name.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Lich.
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JUDGE TINLEY: Lich.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The Lich murder.
MS. WILLIAMS: It happened back in '97.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But he was -- he was in Mexico
for a while; they got him extradited back.
MS. WILLIAMS: I believe so.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I believe it was the Lich trial.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, is the 25 grand --
would that be from day one to -- all the way through the
completion of it?
JUDGE TINLEY: No, that would have been for
appellate work only. I think the trial counsel would have
been paid, and then in an indigent case, the normal procedure
is -- and I assume that was followed in this case,
Commissioner -- is that once the trial portion of it is
completed, there's a mandatory appeal on any death sentences,
anyway, to the Court of Criminal Appeals. And there's a
separate appointment for the attorney to handle it on appeal,
and apparently Richard Langhorn was designated by the Court to
do that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: There's not a death -- this
isn't a death sentence, because I don't believe the
extradition --
MS. WILLIAMS: I think his was.
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extradition process.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: One final question. Is this
a local attorney?
JUDGE TINLEY: No, sir, he's out of San Antonio.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: San Antonio, Texas.
JUDGE TINLEY: Or he was. As far as I know, he
I still is.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I suggest you can expect
some more bills.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Is this the final amount for the
appeal, or do we know? Ms. Williams?
MS. WILLIAMS: I don't really know. I'd have to
look at that bill. I do believe, when I looked at it the
other day, it was -- his actual bill was more than the 25,000,
but this was, like, a cap that he had put on it, or that
someone had put on it, and that was all he was billing us for.
But I don't believe it stated in there that was the final
billing.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Shouldn't this come out of
Special Trials? Being a --
MS. WILLIAMS: I asked that same question to
Mr. Tomlinson, and he said that if we put it under Special
Trials, we cannot try to recoup some of this cost. If we pay
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it out of Court-Appointed Attorneys fees, there is a form, I
believe, that we can send to the State on capital murder cases
where we can try to recoup some of this expense.
JUDGE TINLEY: Also, it would make a difference when
we report our indigent defense --
MS. WILLIAMS: Exactly.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- numbers, and if we don't reach a
certain threshold level of was whatever it was six, seven
years ago or something, --
MS. WILLIAMS: Correct.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- we're not eligible for additional
grant funds out of the -- out of the additional pool, I guess
is probably the right way to put it.
MS. WILLIAMS: Right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, then, shouldn't -- to me,
I mean, it still should come out of the Special Trials fund, I
but maybe transfer into this one. That's the purpose of
Special Trials, is generally capital murder trials. That's
why we have the fund; we know these are coming up. So, it
seems that the dollars should -- from a budget standpoint,
should come out of Special Trials, even if they get
transferred into the proper line item at the time.
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order for us to report the funds under the indigent defense,
it has to be paid out of the Court-Appointed Attorney line
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm saying we should, I think --
then why do we even have Special Trials? I guess my point is,
if we have to pay for capital murder trials out of this line
item, and most of them are indigent, then why do we even have
the Special Trials fund?
MS. WILLIAMS: I think the Special Trials fund, if I
understand, is to cover any special trials that might occur
during the budget year.
JUDGE TINLEY: I see where you're coming from,
Commissioner. This is probably not something that you would
ordinarily consider coming out of regular Court-appointed
attorneys. It may be necessary that, later on in the year, we
keep this in the back of our mind; we may have to transfer
some from Sper_ial Trials.
MS, WILLIAMS: And then, at that point, we could do I
that.
JUDGE TINLEY: Over to Indigent Defense. But -- but
your point is well-made, that this is not something that you
normally anticipate as a regular Court-appointed attorney.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 'Cause we --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If that's the case, then we
have to keep track of all these trials as they work their way
through the appeal process.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we do that anyway. I
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think -- I mean, I think Mr. Ramirez' defense is -- aye could
probably go back and pick up every invoice we've paid for
that, and every other person. But I just think that it's just
~I a matter of how we budget it. It seems that we've always
budgeted Special Trials for capital murder trials. You know,
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MS. WILLIAMS: Right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Move we pay the bills.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN; Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for -- to
pay the bills. The election equipment on Page 1, this is the
base cost of the equipment? It doesn't include any training?
MS. WILLIAIS: I believe it's just the equipment.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Let's see what else we got
here. On Page 5, Jail Maintenance, about $4,800 there. Is
that the rubber room, or is that something else? Remember the
rubber room that got tore up?
MS. WILLIAMS: Oh, no, sir. This is -- if I am
remembering right, they are doing some remodeling out there to
set up an area for the task force. They're taking up the
carpet and putting down tile.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is this for the task force,
or is this for the distance learning?
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MS. WILLIAMS: What I understood was for the task
force, that they were going to be setting up a room for the
task force. Because this -- this particular bill to
Mr. Crider is the one you're talking about.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm.
MS. WILLIAMS: This is strictly just the labor
charge of taking up the old carpet, repairing the floor,
laying down the tile. There is another bill that will be
coming, probably -- maybe next court date, for the actual
materials, and it's right in and around this same amount.
JUDGE TINLEY: How much t he are we putting down out
there?
MS. WILLIAMS: A fairly large room, is what I
understood.
JUDGE TINLEY: I would surmise that, based upon
almost $5,000, if we're talking about labor only, and another
5,000 for -- for materials.
MS. WILLIAMS: Right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's a question for the Sheriff,
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Anything further? A11 in
favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand,
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: A11 opposed, same sign.
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JUD,E TINLEY: The motion does carry, Budget
amendments. Budget Amendment Request Number 1.
MS. WILLIAMS: Okay. What we would like to do, we
are constantly gettinq revenues in from the Road and Bridge
Department, either for signs that they make for individuals or
for culverts that they have installed for individuals, the
surplus property that I believe they were allowed to sell at a
previous court meeting. We need to set up revenue line items
to record these funds coming in, instead of -- at the present
time, they're going back against the expenditure line items,
and our outside auditors are telling us that's really a no-no;
we shouldn't do that. When you do that, you misstate what
you've a~~tually spent during the budget year. So, what I'm
asking the Court's permission to do with this budget amendment
~~ is set up revenue line items to record those revenues coming
in, and then once every quarter, come in and let you know this
is the amount of money that we've brought in. We need to
increase this revenue line item, and on the same side,
increase the expenditure line item so that they can use those
funds in this year's budget. i
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line items, as opposed to going into the general fund? II
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actually do these jobs.
COMMISSIONEP. LETZ: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And they're already
accounted for in that line item.
MS. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir, mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. I agree.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of Budget Amendment Request Number 1. Any further question or
discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising
your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget
Amendment Request Number 2.
MS. WILLIAMS: We have received another bill for the
Detention Facility for food expense. And, as I explained last
meeting, we're basically out of money. So, what I need to get
the Court's approval to do is to allow us to move $ 79.56 out
of Group Insurance up to the Food line item in order to pay
this bill to H.E.B, for food charges, and we also need
approval for a late bill. We need to get this paid before a
certain date, and it won't -- won't be done before our next
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mindy, we've talked about
this and related items, you and I.
MS. WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And it seemed to me, this is
-- what we're doing today is nothing more than a bandaid on
this particular Line item.
MS. WILLIAMS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What do we know about what
we need to get us to the point -- at least to the six months
review of our budget on this thing? What is necessary?
MS. WILLIAMS: Right off the top of my head, L'm
going to say anywhere between $8,000 and $10,000 a month, and ~I
that is just a rough guess. I believe at the last court
meeting, the printcut I had showed one month we'd spent over
11,000. The next month it was, like, close to nine, and I
think the third month was maybe around six or seven. It looks
like the food costs are going down a little bit, but we never
I' know for sure until we get the statements in as to what we're
actual]y going to be spending.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If we're showing a negative
for food nn this budget item at this point in time, you're
telling the Court that there is nothing in that account, or
nothing for this particular month in that account?
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Which?
COMMISSIONER LETZ; Nothing in the account.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Nothing, period?
MS. WILLIAMS: Nothing left in that line item. We
have totally used the $30,000 that was budgeted.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, if we don't do
something, tomorrow we get hungry?
MS. WILLIAMS: Well, they -- they're Still buying.
They're still charging --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I understand.
MS. WILLIAMS: -- without a problem. But when we
get the bills in, we`re not going to be able to pay them if we
don't ...
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval of this agenda
item, but I have a comment.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I'll second it, but
we've got to have more discussion.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of Budget Amendment Request Number 2. Any questions or
comments?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess my comment is, I think
we need to get this one done so we can get H.E.B. paid, but I
think we need to have Ms. Harris come at our next meeting and
explain, one, why we're so far off on this budget, and get a
projection for what it will be. I -- it seems, you know,
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doing the quick math in my head, she's spending an awful lot
of money on food. I guess a part of that question is, why are
we shopping at H.E.B.? That's not -- I mean, I like H.E,B.,
but there's Sysco and other people that are a lot more --
MS. WILLIAMS: I think a lot of times, the reason
they're going to H.E.B. is they may have not received
something on their order trom one of the other vendors --
providers, and it's something that they need. Most of it is
-- is just everyday stuff.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I guess that goes to my --
I have a planning issue with that. Every time -- the same as
I have with Maintenance when they run into Gibsons. T mean, I
love Gibsons too, but it's taking -- with the man hours it
takes us to do the shopping, the cost of this -- of that item,
whether it's H.E.B, or Gibsons or any other, is astronomical,
'cause it takes man hours to go buy this stuff. You take an
hour -- you take an hour of an employee's time, plus a little
bit of money, I mean, it gets ridiculous. All departments
need to plan better on what they need from a supply
standpoint.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think -- I have no problem
with Ms. Harris coming in and explaining to us; I think that's
appropriate, but I think we're going to find out that we're --
we're negative in the food line item because we had the T.Y.C.
kids there for so long, and that pulled down her food line
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total bills at the six-month marker against what the Court
approved?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: T.Y.C. can't account for this.
COMMISSIONEk WILLIAMS: We'll find out. But the
overriding issue to me is, where do we stand on the overall --
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Your point's well made, Commissioner.
We need a good, solid update of -- of where we are at the
half-year level, as -- as we had intended to do anyway.
MS. WILLIAMS: I might mention, like the bills that
we paid in October, which is the beginning of our budget year,
those are actually September invoices, so we`re always paying
the previous month the next month.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I would appreciate,
Ms. Williams, when we do a six-months update -- and I assume
we'll do that at the second meeting in March; just my
assumption -- that we also have a line on outstanding accounts
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MS. WILLIAMS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So the Court has some feel
for what money is in the conduit coming in that hasn't arrived
here yet.
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COMMISSIONEP, LETZ: And I think that's a valid point
about the carry-over from September, but it also -- at the end
of the year, we don't pay for September. We pay for September
the following budget year, and it's -- I mean --
MS. WILLIAMS: A lot -- if the bills are turned in
on time, we can encumber them back to the previous year.
There have been a number of bills, as you know, that we
haven't been able to do that with because they came in late,
after we had already finished our encumbrances.
COMMISSIGNER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: I have a motion and a second for
approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 2. Any furtner
question cr comment? All in favor of the motion, signify by
raising your right hand. ~
(The motion carried by unanimous vote,)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign,
(NO response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget
Amendment Request Number 3.
MS, WILLIAMS: Okay. On this one, we have an order
to pay an investigator on a district court case out of the
198th District Court, and we have basically bottomed out that
line item. I've already talked to Becky Henderson in Judge
Ables' and Judge Prohl's office and asked if it would be all
right for us to move the necessary funds that we need in order
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to pay this bill out of 215th District Court Court-Appointed
Services line item and put it into the 198th District Court,
and they have approved that, so I just need the Court's
approval on the budget amendment.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Second.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Legal -- legal services,
basically?
MS. WILLIAMS: Yes. It was for investigative
services on a district court case.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of Budget Amendment Request Number 3. Any question or
discussion?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Question. I'm thinking
about the whole process of district court expenses; indigent,
attorney's fees, those kind of things. Who's accountable
for -- for certifying that the costs are reasonable and the
expenditures were made, and who signs off on these things?
JUDGE TINLEY: District Judges.
I, COMMISSIONER LETZ: The judges.
JUDGE TINLEY: Or in the rase of County Court at
Law, the judge there, or in the case of my courts, I sign off
on them, approve them, i
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But as far as overall
picture, you're accountable to the public, believe me.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Believe me.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other question or comment?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Got the responsibility, but
not the authority?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Correcto.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Thank you, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: All in favor of the motion, signify
by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Do we have
any further budget amendments?
MS. WILLIAMS: No, sir, that's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Late bills?
MS. WILLIAMS: No, sir, not today.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, you want to ask her,
on the sesquicentennial issue that we had earlier, if she
would find that two and a half million dollars for us?
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. I appreciate that. I
know she can do that very quickly. You've got $2,500 that we
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have approved to assist in sesquicentennial activities, and
you have the magic number of where we're going to take that
money from.
MS. WILLIAMS: Oh, boy. Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Auditor's salaries?
MS. WILLIAMS: One, two, three, four, five.
JUDGE TINLEY: Five-way split?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Five-way split.
MS. WILLIAMS: 2,500?
JUDGE TINLEY: 2,500 a pop.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, that ain't going to
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MS. WILLIAMS: I will check and see what I can find.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you.
MS. WILLIAMS: You're welcome.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you ma'am.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mindy? Before you -- are you
going to --
MS. WILLIAMS: Sure.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Are you going to find that right
now?
MS. WILLIAMS: I can go back and check right now.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay, and then come back.
Reason is, I suspect they're going to want. that check pretty
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Like, yesterday.
MS. WILLIAMS: And is it 2,500 even?
JODGE TINLEY: Even, yeah.
MS. WILLIAMS: Let me go see.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Who's it going to be made to?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Chamber of Commerce, I
I think.
JUDGE TINLEY: Kerr County Sesquicentennial --
they've got an actual title of that outfit. Kerr County
Sesquicentennial Celebration is the actual --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's it. But they'll probably
be coming soon for that, so we`ll be around a little bit.
MS. WILLIAMS: I'll check right now. Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, ma'am. I -- I have before
me monthly reports, a report from Justice of the Peace,
Precinct Number 1. Do I hear a motion that that report be
approved as submitted?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Hear, hear.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
of the Justice of the Peace, Precinct 1 report as submitted.
Any question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TIYdLEY: All opposed, same sign.
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JUDGE TISdLEY: The motion does carry. Any further
reports? Do we have any reports from any of the Commissioners
on their committee or liaison assignments? Number 1?
COMMISSIONEF. BALDWIN: Judge, I did want to report
I that the -- the EMS issue is coming the end of March, the last
meeting in March. And I have their report in print in my
office, and a copy for each of you, and I want to get that to
you as soon as you will receive it so you can start looking at
it. And Dr. Morgan has volunteered to meet with you
individually to brief you on the whole thing, because I can't.
It's against the law for me to meet with y'all. And, so, I
would recommend that you do that, because it's kind of an
interesting thing, and you're going to have a lot of
questions, I hope. I did. I still do. So, that's all.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Commissioner 2?
COMMISSIONER WILLlAMS: Kerr County's request for
funding from the Resource Recovery Committee for surveillance
equipment for Solid Waste purposes has passed over hurdle
number one, is recommended that it pass out of hurdle number
two, and it will go to a board for final approval next
Wednesday. 16,000-something for surveillance equipment.
JUDGE TINLEY: So far, so good.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So far, so good.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That will be, I think, a big
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If we can make it work.
Last time, for some reason, we couldn't make the stuff work,
but we got everything.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Cameras watching cameras?
JUDGE TINLEY: Any -- anything further,
Commissioner? Commissioner 3?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: On the airport, next week, week
after next, the bids are due in on the terminal project, so we
will find out if we got -- I think we can, after next --
anyway, within the next 10 days, I think the bids are due in,
so we'll find out where we're going with that project.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You did notice in the paper,
didn't you, Commissioner, that the City Manager's
reconstruction of his staff puts the Airport Director under i
Ms. Wendele's supervision?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN; Say that again? I didn't
hear that, I'm sure. The airport comes under Ms. Wendele?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. He's done some
restructuring of his staff and so forth, and the Airport
Director will report not directly to him, as he had in the
past, but he'll report to him through Ms. Wendele as a part of
her assigned responsibilities.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Very interesting. That's
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I agree.
JUDGE TIIQLEY: Anything further, Commissioner 3?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: No.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner 4?
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: Commissioner Number 1 and I
met with the five employees of Animal Control for about an
hour and a half for the purpose of -- purposes of examining
our work out there, what we're doing right and how to make
sure we continue to do that, and also to find ways to change
and improve. And we did this based on a concept that if you
want to know how a job should be done, ask the people who do
it. And it was a pretty encouraging meeting. What we found
is that a lot of things are going well. The numbers reflect
that. The adoptions are up, euthanasias are down. Some other
metrics that we have suggest that over the last couple years,
we're -- and thanks to the citizens who are cooperating by
taking better care of their pets, we're doing a better job of
animal control. We also found some areas where our processes
and procedures weren't -- weren't quite as smooth as they
should be, and found some ways that we can make some changes,
and all five of the employees committed to being a part of the
change process. So, it was a -- I felt real]y good about it.
We -- we got good people out there that care about doing good
work, and I'm very much encouraged.
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Another meeting with the Library Board, and, again,
I'm -- I'm encouraged that they're the right people working on
the right issues. And the ner.t thing you'll see on that is,
in our next meeting, I'll bring -- the bylaws that they've
approved, in accordance with our contract with the City,
require approval by this body as well as the City's. I'll put
that on the next agenda for --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sounds like that's working.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: So far, it's working. If
we can -- we can do a good job at recommending a budget, then
we'll know it works.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I do have one -- one other
note that might be of interest to Commissioner 4, Judge. Like
you, we appeared before the Kerr Leadership group, and it's --
I guess they do that monthly. And my task this time was to
draw the distinction between county government and city
government, and that's pretty easy to do when we get down to
it. But when it came to Q and A time, one lady asked me about
the Animal Control shelter, and her question had to do with
whether or not we were going to continue our euthanization
policy. Which came, you know, totally out of the blue.
Doesn't have anything to do with the distinction between
county government and city government, but my answer to her
was that -- that since we had received the funding to expand
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the facility, that would perhaps give owners and others who
wish to adopt a pet a longer opportunity. Maybe that will
just -- won't be quite as extensive as it has in the past, but
we had no change in policy, on how we do things.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: I think all of you know
this as well as I do. It's pretty easy, when you get an
animal in there, to make a determination about whether or not
that animal is going to be adopted. There's some -- some are
marginal, but all in all, it's pretty easy. If we've got a
good animal, we'll keep it a long time. And one of the things
we found we're doing right is, we're shopping that animal
around, and it's -- and that's working. We're getting
others -- private organizations to help us get our work done.
So, yeah, that'll help a little bit, give us a little more
flexibility, But if you get a -- a bad animal in there, it's
not -- keeping it an extra few days is not going to help
anything.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I suspect the point of that
question was more as to how you do the euthanasia.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Exactly.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: As opposed to the euthanizing.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, it had to do with the
fact that San Antonio changed the method by which it
euthanized.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. And I think your answer
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was still correct; there's no change in our policy at this
time. You might ask Janie what the cost of -- I guess we've
tried that.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLSON: It's a big difference in
cost. I did learn -- I didn't know this -- that we do have
the capability to use the injection, and we do that. If we
get an animal in that's in really bad shape, it shouldn't have
to wait until the next time we do the traditional euthanasia.
We have the capability and the means to dispose of the animal
using the injection.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else? The Leadership Kerr
County that Commissioner Williams referred to, I appeared on a
panel before the -- before that group later on in that same
day with City Manager Paul Hofmann, and they had some very,
very interesting questions. Some very, very timely questions.
And I think we were scheduled to -- to be there for maybe 40
minutes, 45 minutes, and I think we went something over an
hour, but there was -- there were some very, very interesting
questions, and very appropriate under the circumstances. It
was -- it was a challenging appearance. It certainly was --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Astute group of folks.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I spoke with them several months
ago on water issues, but I think this group has the most
questions and the most insight, and seems to be more engaged
in the whole process than probably any group that I recall. I II
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something like that to that group, but it's a very, very good
group, and they're true -- you know, I think it's -- the true
purpose of that whole program, this group exemplifies.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There's no question, they're
a very astute group of people. I used, as a resource to get
the discussion underway, a -- about a 12-minute video prepared
by Texas Association of Counties, which goes through the --
the basic services that are provided, mandatory services that
are provided by counties. And that really, then, does set out
the distinction between county government and city government,
and you can expound on that. And it was -- I went over my
time, too, Judge.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other reports? Reports from
elected officials/department heads? Yes, sir?
MR. EMERSON: Just advising the Court that I
received by certified mail sometime the end of last week, when
I was gone to the Juvenile Law Conference, that the -- in the
Kerr County vs. E.B.A. lawsuit, the County has been
countersued by Union Labor Life. And I'll be happy to put it
on the agenda and talk about it in executive session next time
if the Court wants more details.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rex, since you brought it up, I
received several questions in the past month about this
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lawsuit and where we stand on it. How -- is it possible for
us to do a -- I mean, obviously, we don't want to go into
detail; that needs to be handled in executive session. But
can we do an update as to where we are on this whole thing for
the public?
MR. EMERSON: Sure, in very generic terms.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Generic. But talking about, you
know -- yeah, it's generic, but as specific as you feel
comfortable. And I'd like to err on being -- a lot of this
stuff is all up in the courtroom anyway, these filings back
and forth. Obviously, you know better what needs to be done.
But, you know, at our next agenda, maybe we can put this on
there just to give the public an update as to where we are on
this process.
MR. EMERSON: Sure.
DODGE TINLEY: Okay. Thank you, sir.
MR. EMERSON: You're welcome.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other reports from elected
officials? Department heads? Ms. Williams?
MS. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir. Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: And the quest for $2,500 resulted in
I what?
MS. WILLIAMS: I believe that we will probably be
able to move $1,500 out of Line Item 10-409-204, which is --
get the terminology right -- the Worker's Comp line item in
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Nondepartmental. Move an additional $1,000 out of 10-409-207,
which is the TAC Unemployment Insurance line item in
Nondepartmental, and I'd like to move this over under
County-Sponsored. We'll have to create a new line item, and I
would like to make that Line Item 10-660-499, and we'll call
it Kerr County Sesquicentennial Celebration, and we'll put the
$2,500 there. And I just need something in writing as to who
we're supposed to make the check payable to.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It'll be in the court order, I
think. Wouldn't that be sufficient?
MS. WILLIAMS: That will work, mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval
based upon the information furnished by the Auditor. Any
question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify
by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Thank you,
Ms. Williams.
MS. WILLIAMS: You're welcome.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thanks, Mindy.
MS. WILLIAMS: You're welcome.
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JUDGE TINLEY: The court order should reflect that
it be payable to the Kerr County Sesquicentennial Celebration,
as specified in the letter from that organization. Any other
business?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We have some additional posters
here that Mr. Bondy dropped off, and I'll set them out by
Kathy's desk, and pick them up and take them to the precincts,
I guess, is where they're supposed to go.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else? Hearing nothing
further, we will stand adjourned.
(Commissioners Court adjourned at 10:25 a.m.)
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STATE OF TEXAS
COONTY OF KERR I
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my
capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court
of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place
heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 1st day of
March, 2006.
JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk
BY: G ______ _____
Kath-~nik, Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
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ORDER NO.29573
FUNDING REQUEST FROM KERR COUNTY SESQUICENTENNIAL
CELEBRATION
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Nicholson seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The
Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the request to provide financial assistance in the amount of
$2,500.00, to assist with the costs of the Sesquicentennial activities, subject
to a determination of which line items the funds should be taken from.
ORDER NO. 29574
COMMISSIONERS' COURT TO PARTICIPATE AS A BODY IN
SESQUICENTENNIAL PARADE
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Participate in the Sesquicentennial Parade, Saturday, April 8, 2006, the
details to be confirmed later, and that all the Sesquicentennial events be
posted for participation by members of the Commissioners' Court.
ORDER NO.29575
RESOLUTION SUPPORTING APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL OF
GRANT FROM GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR FUNDING FOR SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR FOR VIOLET CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the Resolution supporting application for renewal of Grant from
Governor's Office for funding for Special Prosecutor for Violent Crimes
Against Women.
ORDER NO.29576
ALLOW ROAD & BRIDGE TO ADVERTISE FOR BID ON TOWN
CREEK CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The
Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve Road & Bridge to advertise for bids on the Town Creek Crossing
Improvements.
ORDER NO. 29577
DISCUSS KERR COUNTY ORGANIZATION DEVELOPMENT
SURVEY
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the distribution of the Kerr County Organization Development
Survey to all elected officials and department heads for response as
indicated, to be returned to the Commissioners' Court by March 20, 2006.
ORDER NO.29578
APPOINT MR. BEN ALVES OF MOUNTAIN HOME TO THE KERB
COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT #2 BOARD OF
COMMISSIONERS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Nicholson, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The
Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the appointment of Mr. Ben Alves of Mountain Home to an
unexpired two-year term as a Commissioner on the Kerr County Emergency
Service District #2 Board of Commissioners.
ORDER NO. 29579
SET PUBLIC HEARING ON KERB COUNTY SUBDIVISION RULES
AND REGULATIONS AND WATER AVAILABILITY
REQUIREMENTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Nicholson. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Set a public hearing for Monday, March 13, 2006 at 1:30 p.m. on the Kerr
County Subdivision Rules and Regulations and Water Availability
Requirements.
ORDER NO. 29580
APPOINT DAVID BILLEITER TO THE KERB COUNTY CHILD
SERVICE BOARD
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Letz. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the appointment of David Billeiter to the Kerr County Child
Service Board.
..._ ORDER NO.29581
ORDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY TO ENTER INTO A
FINANCING LEASE WITH BANC OF AMERICA LEASING &
CAPITAL, LLC, FOR THE ACQUISITION OF COMPUTER
HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FROM SOFTWARE GROUP
DIVISION OF TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Nicholson. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the County entering into a financing lease with Banc of America
Leasing & Capital, LLC, for the purpose of financing the acquisition of
certain computer hardware and software from the Software Group Division
..- of Tyler Technologies, Inc. and authorize County Judge to approve and
execute the final form of a Master Equipment Lease/Purchase Agreement
with Banc of America Leasing & Capital, LLC, and all other documents
deemed necessary related thereto, and approving other matters related to
such lease financing, with the proviso that any typos or date corrections be
made.
ORDER NO. 29582
CLAIMS AND ACCOUNTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, came to be considered
by the Court various Commissioners Precincts, which said Claims and
Accounts are:
Accounts Expense
10-General	$	377,717.60
15-Road & Bridge	$	40,263.62
50-Indigent Health Care	$	32,024.60
70-Permanent Improvement	$	8,447.67
76-Juvenile Detention Facility	$	8,821.31
81-District Administration	$	224.00
TOTAL
$ 467,498.80
Upon motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner
Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to pay the claims
and accounts.
ORDER NO. 29583
BUDGET AMENDMENT
ROAD & BRIDGE
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to transfer the following expense
codes:
Expense Code Description
15-350-500	Surplus Sales
15-350-520*	Culvert Pipe Proceeds
15-350-540*	Street Signs Proceeds
15-611-457	Signs/Traffic Control
15-611-552	Asphalts, Oils, Emulsion
15-611-554	Culvert Pipe & Bridges
Amendment
Increase/QDecrease
+ $300.00#
+ $1,786.90
+ $710.75
+ $710.75
+ $300.00#
+ $1,786.90
#-Proceeds received from sale of scrap surplus equipment.
*-New revenue line items established to recognize funds received from
public for culvert installations & signs sold.
ORDER NO.29584
BUDGET AMENDMENT
LATE BILL
JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to transfer the following expense
codes:
Expense Code Description
76-572-332 Food
76-572-202 Grouplnsurance
Amendment
Increase/()Decrease
+ $279.66
- ($279.66)
ORDER NO.29585
BUDGET AMENDMENT
198TH DISTRICT COURT
216TH DISTRICT COURT
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams and
Nicholson, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to transfer the
following expense codes:
Expense Code Description
10-436-401 Court Appt'd Services
10-435-401 Court Appt'd Services
Amendment
Increase/QDecrease
+ $532.07
- ($532.07)
ORDER NO. 29586
MONTHLY REPORTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 the following monthly reports:
J.P. # 1
ORDER NO. 29587
BUDGET AMENDMENT
COUNTY SPONSORED
NON-DEPARTMENTAL

Came to be heard this the 27th day of February, 2006, with a motion made
by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to issue a check to the Kerr County
Sesquicentennial Celebration as specified in the letter from that
organization, and to transfer the following expense codes:
Expense Code Description
10-660-499 Kerr Co Sesquicentennial
10-409-204 Workers Compensation
10-409-207 TAC Unemployment Ins.
Amendment
Increase/()Decrease
+ $2,500.00
($1, 500.00)
($1,000.00)