1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT Special Session Monday, May 22, 2006 9:00 a.m. Commissioners' Courtroom Kerr County Courthouse Kerrville, Texas PRESENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge H A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 ABSENT: DAVE NICHOLSON, Commissioner Pct. 4 1~ 1 Q 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 z I N D E X May 22, 2006 --- Commissioners' Comments 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for preliminary plat of Live Springs Ranch, Pct. 4 1.2 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on request of Texas Cooperative Extension Service to fill County Extension Agent FCS position with appointment of Jody Osteen 1.3 Consideration and approval to request annexation of identified airport property into city limits 1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on the modified OS-06 KCJF County Budget 1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to extend KCJF Comp Time Policy 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on the Texas VINE annual maintenance grant contract 1.9 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for purchase of laptop computer with wireless capabilities for field work 1.10 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to correct Court Order 29671 to Creekwood V instead of Creekwood II, Pct. 2 1.11 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for preliminary plat of Ranger Park, Precinct 2 1.12 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for preliminary plat of Lasso Ranch, Precinct 3 1.13 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to set a public hearing for revision of plat of Lots 13 & 14 of Cypress Springs, Phase I, Precinct 4 1.7 Public Hearing for Revision of Lot 60 of Wood Trails Ranch, Precinct 4 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to award bid for Town Creek Improvements, Precinct 1 & 3 PAGE 5 9 11 15 18 34 36 37 40 41 49 51 53 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 I N D E X (Continued) May 22, 2006 PAGE 1.14 Considerjdiscuss, take appropriate action to approve final plat of 707 Ranch, Precinct 4 65 1.15 Considerldiscuss, take appropriate action to review preparation of payroll and other personnel) human resources functions for Kerr County 67 4.1 Pay Bills 73 4.2 Budget Amendments 7g 4.3 Late Bi11s -- 4,4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 98 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee Assignments 99 --- Adjourned 105 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ~-- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 4 On Monday, May 22, 2006, at 9:00 a.m., a special meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the JUDGE TINLEY: Let me call to order this regularly scheduled meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court posted for this date and time, Monday, May the 22nd, 2006, at 9 a.m. We're privileged to have with us this morning one of our county designees to the Library Advisory Board, and my good friend, Pastor Al Schultz, and I'd ask him to please come forward and give us our opening prayer. MR. SCHULTZ: Thank you for the privilege. (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. At this time, if there's any member of the public or the audience that wishes to be heard on any matter that is not a listed agenda item, you're free to come forward at this time and tell us what's on your mind. If you wish to be heard on what's a listed agenda item, we'd ask that you fill out a participation form. They can be found at the back of the room. It's not absolutely essential, but it helps me to hopefully not miss you when we get to that item. But if -- if you wish to be heard on anything that is not a listed agenda item, come forward at this time; we'll be happy to entertain you. Seeing no one coming forward, we'll 5-21-06 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 move on. Commissioner 1, what do you have for us today? COMMISSIONER BAZBWIN: Well, thank you, Judge. As we move through the day, I will say some nice things and some positive things as we go along, but I'm going to start with a couple of negatives that I'm a little bit angry about. Number one, I've had -- I've had numerous phone calls and several people visit me in my office in regards to this Commissioners I Court not doing their job as far as elected officials in the courthouse. They want us to fire the County Treasurer. And I've talked till I'm blue in the face about it, that we do not have that authority. I just wish there was some way that we could convince folks that what our authority -- where our authority starts and where it ends, by law. I'm not sure that's going to get done, unless I put on it the agenda for next time and ask the County Attorney to make a presentation on it, which is a total waste of time. But I'm just -- you know, we, as a body, are kind of getting beat up out there over this thing, and it's just lack of knowledge on their part. I started to say total ignorance, but I don't talk that I way. But it just is -- just angers me that we can't -- that people can't think for themselves and look into issues. And, no, we don't have -- the people -- that's the good thing about county government, is that the people make the decisions who serves here and who doesn't. That's the beauty of county government. s-zz-oh 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And I'm off that one; now I'm on my next one. I have -- I heard on the news this morning that our good local friends, the Dixie Chicks, are at it again. They are -- let's see. The original statement was they were ashamed that the president was from Texas, and this morning, he really needs to be removed and run off. Well, I'm calling for a boycott of the Dixie Chicks. I ask everybody not to buy one more piece of their maggot-infested junk they call music. And I understand a couple of them live in the beautiful Texas hill country; they're our neighbors. And I -- I would rather not see them driving on the streets of Kerr County. So, that's it. That's all. JUDGE TINLEY: Anybody out there want to fess up to winding him up like an eight-day clock this morning? (Laughter.) MR. HARVEY: I'll just throw an "amen" on it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, Les. Thank you ~ very much. JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Williams, what do you have for us? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I just want to -- if you'd like to organize a picket, we'll just picket their ranch. I just want to remind everybody that, believe it or not, we're coming up on the end of May, and the end of May means Texas State Arts and Crafts Fair for four days over the Memorial Day s-zz-oh 1 '° 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ~°- 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ""` 2 4 25 7 you haven't attended that fair, you need to, for a lot of reasons. First of all, it brings the finest artists in the state of Texas together at one time for the entire Memorial Day weekend, with their goods and their crafts and their art, and it's a really, really fine exposition of Texas art. Plus the fact you get to see the arts and crafts park, which is River Star Park. It's county property which has been and the foundation, and those people have worked very hard now for three or four years to get that property to the state that it is right now, and when all those tents qo up this week and all the flags start flying, it really takes on a -- a tremendous atmosphere. So, I invite y'all to participate. The economics of it are also extra for Kerr County and the City of Kerrville, as every hotel in this town will be booked and people spend the weekend here and spend their money here, both at the fair and they spend it in town. So, do your piece and support it. Go out, take a look at it. It's on county property, and we're proud of it. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't have a whole lot, but, you know, I'll follow up on both of these two briefly before I get to what my one comment was going to be. Related to that, I think it's just -- to add one more thing on the Arts and s-zz-oa 1 ""° 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1G -- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 '"` 2 4 25 8 Crafts Fair, it shows -- it's probably one of the best, if not the best, example of a three-way partnership on that. The City of Kerrville has participated and helped fund some of that and been, you know, very positive in that. Obviously, it's a county property, and then it's a private entity that put it ali together, so it's -- it just shows when the City, the County, and then a private enterprise get together, really good things can happen. I think it's a model of what we can do with ideas. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Exactly. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We need to note that your -- the Dixie Chicks, the ones that do live nearby, they're in Bandera County. Xou all might want to know, they're not in Kerr County. (Laughter.) Just past the -- before you aet to Medina, between the boy's home and the -- and town of Medina, so right where -- I think it's 337 that turns off is where their -- their property is, if y'all want to take a look at it. And I think, on a good note, I had -- aside from being a little bit under the weather for the last week, but I'm i finally over that, I believe. Sam turned two Saturday, and we had a little family get-together and had a great time out at the ranch, and I think he's beginning to understand material possessions, 'cause he has a whole bunch of them now, and was very protective of them from his friends. That's it. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Let's get on with the 5- 2 2 U b 9 1 "' 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 -w- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 •" 2 9 25 business at hand. First item on the agenda is to consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the preliminary plat of Live Springs Ranch located in Precinct 4. MR. ODOM: Good morning. JUDGE TINLEY: Morning, sir. MR. ODOM: What you have before you is what was ~ presented before for the concept plan. You have a portion of Live Springs is in our county, about 19 lots, and that the remainder of the 60 lots, so about 60 percent, is in Gillespie County, and probably 40 percent is probably in our county. But 19 lots. They're larger lots, above 20 acres, and that's a good project, and I present it to you. And I'm open for any questions, but I recommend that the Court accept the preliminary plat. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a comment. Commissioner Nicholson is out of town today, and I did meet with the developer and Len a little bit about this. I just want to go over it on a little bit of the mindset of our new rules. There's a little bit more subjectivity being built into the rules as to road standards, as to what type of road. And the roads here, I would recommend, as they have on the plat, to do them as local roads. There are other subdivisions that will be similar in size that I may recommend get collector roads, and there's some reasoning as to long-term future development and use of the road. Based on interstate s-zz-o6 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 ]8 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to location, lack of access, and large property owners, it's very, very unlikely that anyone would ever come back to the Court -- or, actually, I think it's private roads -- would come back to the developer or subdivision and try to add more lots to any of these roads. For that reason, I think local roads are adequate. I might say that if there was a piece of property beyond this that had a good likelihood of being developed, I probably would not have that opinion. I think our new rules have -- I just wanted to bring that up, because -- so people begin to understand that we're looking not just at what the subdivision traffic is going to be; it's what the area's traffic is going to be and what may happen down the road. Little bit, you know, different way of looking at things. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: "Down the road." Did you hear that? COMMISSIONER LETZ: You heard that? So, anyway, I think it looks like a really good development. MR. ODOM: Good development. And it is private roads; it won't be County-maintained. You have a gated community, and as the Commissioner says, they don't have access to I-10, and it's a private road, and that would be between the owners to allow anything to come in there. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. s-zz-o~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 11 COMMISSIONER. WILLIAMS: Whoever moved it -- I'll move it. Whatever. JUDGE TINLEY: I have a motion to approve the preliminary plat of Live Springs Ranch located in Precinct 4. Any question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of that motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to Item 2, if we might. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on the request of the Texas Cooperative Extension Service to fill the County Extension Agent, Family and Consumer Sciences position for Kerr County with the appointment of Jody Osteen. We have Cheryl Mapston with us today. She is -- I believe her title is District Director or District Manager, or -- MS. MAPSTON: Administrator. JUDGE TINLEY: -- Administrator of the Texas Cooperative Extension Service out of Uvalde that serves this area, and I believe she has Ms. Osteen with her, and I'll turn it over to you. MS. MAPSTON: Yes. Thank you, Judge, Commissioners. It's a pleasure to be here this morning, and to introduce to you our applicant for the position of County Extension Agent -<<-06 1 G 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 12 for Family and Consumer Sciences, and I'd like to tell you a little bit about her at this time. This is Ms. Jody Osteen, and Jody -- her educational background includes a Bachelor's degree in home economics from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. And she is also currently working on -- or she already has some hours towards her Master's degree in Family and Consumer Sciences, and she will be able to finish that online -- MS. OSTEEN: Yes. MS. MAPSTON: -- at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln. And, so, we're really pleased that she's well on her way to her Master's degree. She has 13 years of teaching experience. She taught in San Felipe Consolidated Independent School District for 13 and a half years, where she taught high school home economics classes, which included family and consumer science. She was the FCCLA, which is the Family Career Community Leadership of America program, which was formerly FHA, and she also was the coordinator of a teen parenting program, which included education to teen parents, as well as their parents at home. So, that was a very intensive program that takes lots of time and lots of energy working with new teen parents. She is a former 4-H member in Nebraska; a truly corn club member, I guess, when you talk about the state of Nebraska. And then, here in Texas, she's -- she served as 4-H volunteer leader in Val Verde s-zz-o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 13 County, where she worked with the Food and Nutrition project, and then did some things with the County Extension Agent there in Val Verde. She'11 be joining Roy and Laurinda as an integral part of the Kerr County team, where she'll be -- her -- one of her main focuses will be diet, nutrition, and health, which will include diabetes education. We plan to look at doing the "Do well, Be Well with Diabetes" plan -- program, which is a 12-part series that Jody will go and be trained in and then come back and coordinate that for the county. And she'll also be working in the youth program with the 4-H Food, Nutrition, Clothing and Textiles and Consumer Education program, plus supporting the EEA groups and other groups within the community. So, she'll be planning and implementing, evaluating, and interpreting Extension programs here in the county. And so, this morning, I would like to recommend to the Court the appointment of Jody Osteen as County Extension Agent for Family and Consumer Sciences at the currently budgeted salary level, effective July 15th of 2006. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Jody, we're fixing to vote to approve or disapprove you, and I have one question. MS. OSTEEN: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are you a Dixie Chicks fan? (Laughter.) MS. OSTEEN: I am not. I know the answer to that s zz oe 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 14 one. I am not. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we approve this agenda request. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll second that. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the appointment of Jody Osteen as the County Extension Agent-Family/Consumer Science position. Any question or discussion? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Effective what date again? JUDGE TINLEY: July 15. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: July 15. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Only question is, I'm a little uneasy as to how you're going to get along with a bunch of Aggies, coming from the University of Nebraska, but you'll have to deal with that yourself. (Laughter.) MS. OSTEEN: I think I can handle it, thank you. JUDGE TINLEY: I indicated to Ms. Osteen that we had two major demographic segments that it looked like she was going to be concentrating on. One dealt with the youth, the 4-Hers, as you and I have talked about considerably, Commissioner Letz, and the other end of the spectrum is the seniors, and I was particularly pleased to hear about the wellness and diabetes and nutritional-type programs that are going to be put in place, 'cause I think those are two very, very important areas of effort that need to be -- need to be s-z~-o6 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 G 2 23 24 25 pushed in that position. Any other questions or comments? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You don't have one of those corncob hats you wear, do you? MS. OSTEEN: No. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good. MS. OSTEEN: I don't, thank you, no. JUDGE TINLEY: Any -- MS. OSTEEN: If I go to a Husker game, I might wear one; I don't know. JUDGE TINLEY: If you were in a large crowd of them and they were looking very menacing at you, you might wear it? MS. OSTEEN: I would slip it on, yes. JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions or comments? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: Motion does carry. Thank you very much. MS. OSTEEN: Thank you. MS. MAPSTON: Thank you, Judge. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Let's get on to the next item, Item Number 3, consideration/approval to request the annexation of identified airport property into the Kerrville city limits. We have Mr. Dave Pearce, Airport Manager, City s-zz-oe 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 of Kerrville, here with us today. Good morning, sir. MR. PEARCE: Good morning, Judge Tinley and members of the Court. What you have before you, and I think what best depicts it, is we did a JPEG photo there with some outlines to show the areas that are not annexed into the city that are airport -- jointly airport County/City owned. What this is, is kind of some housecleaning. We have had a number of land purchases over the last three years, starting in 2003, and up to most recently to the west, and right now this will just annex those properties that are jointly owned into the city limits. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Approval to do what, though? I'm not sure what we're -- MR. PEARCE: We -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- what we're voting on. MR. PEARCE: Mr. Baldwin, what we need to do is, the owners need to petition for the annexation into the city limits. So, both the Commissioners Court and the City Council members need to petition to have that annexed in, as owners. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: As owners of the property. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And it's only the -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, it's already owned by us. JUDGE TINLEY: Yes. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see what you're saying. s-zz oh 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And it's -- it's specifically the three properties -- the three tracts, I should say, that are on here. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll second the motion. I have -- I do have a question, though. On this Exhibit A, Dave, those two properties that are identified right at the -- at the curve of Highway 27, those are -- those are properties that we own, but they're -- they're in the flight path; is that right? MR. PEARCE: Yes, sir. We -- we actually purchased some properties, and other properties were -- we had avigation easements, which are just buying air, basically. And the avigation easements we could not annex in without the individual properties making that request. But those are -- those are ones that were in the flight path, and that was a 90/10 purchase. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And for the benefit of the Court, the other one up at the top, at the north side, is the property that -- that's the piece -- the parcel that was part of the property swap with KEDF; is that correct? MR. PEARCE: No, sir. No, sir, that property was purchased outright at 90/10 for the expansion -- or the relocation of the road and expansion in that area. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I got you. Okay, thank you. s-z~-on 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE TINLEY: We have a motion and a second. Any further question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Thank you very much, Mr. Pearce. MR. PEARCE: Thank you, i JUDGE TINLEY: The next item on the agenda is to consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on the modified ~ ~ 'O5-'06 Kerr County Juvenile Facility county budget. Mr. Stanton? I i MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. Good morning. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Morning. MR. STANTON: You should have in your packets a copy of the -- the proposed budget -- or the proposed outline of the budget that I was asked to put together a few weeks ago. If you have any questions about it, I'll be happy to try to answer it for you. The first -- the first column, the current budget as of 4-28-06 is what the -- what was in the budget as of that date. The next column over is what was in the budget added to what we're going to need to make it through, and the next -- the gray column is what is the surplus in that item. The ones in the parentheses, such as the -- the Food line item ~c-oE 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 19 and down, that is what we're going to need to make it through rest of the year. That's what we've had to add into the budget. So, coming out, we should have a surplus/deficit of about $257,000. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Against what was originally budgeted for the juvenile facility? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir, the original budget. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Which means we budgeted about a $288,000 deficit. That means we have reduced that deficit by a significant amount. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good. JUDGE TINLEY: Well, let's examine if we, in fact, reduced that deficit. The $288,000 deficit was a projected deficit for an entire year's operation. ~ COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Correct? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: The deficit that you are presenting today ~s for approximately a six-month period; is that correct? MR. STANTON: No, sir. The deficit in the gray I column in the middle is for the total budget year. ~I JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. 5-22-06 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 20 MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, the difference between 257 and 288 -- or you're reducing the 288 by 257; is that correct? i MR. STANTON: Well, the 288 -- from what I i understand, the 288 figure was a negative 288,000. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Exactly. MR. STANTON: There is a positive 200 -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I know, so you're reducing the negative by 257. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The -- let me make sure I understand your columns. The first column is the current budget -- MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- that was approved. The second column is how you want the budget line item to be out there? MR. STANTON: Well, what the second column is, is if you take what was spent up through the beginning of the budget cycle through May 1st -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Riqht. MR. STANTON: -- then you add in what we're going to need to make it through the rest of the year, yes, sir. -a2_oc 1 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Then you give the deficit. Okay. JUDGE TINLEY: Several weeY,s ago, you presented us with a 12-bed preadjudicated budget for the remainder of the 2006 budget year. Do you recall that? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: And in that -- in that budget, which was actually for the remainder of this year, you indicated that estimated revenues were $169,190. Do you recall that? MR. STANTON: I don't -- T didn't bring a copy of that with me, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Well, I'm looking at one, and you indicated that the total expenditures for the remaining budget were $383,587. ~ MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. If you -- yes, sir. I JUDGE TINLEY: From an operational standpoint, would you agree with me that for the remaining period indicated on that budget, that during that remaining approximately six-month period, there would be a loss generated of something over $219,000? MR. STANTON: I wouldn't know the -- I don't know, I sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Well, if expenses are 383,587, and revenues for that same period are 164,190, whatever the difference is would be the amount of loss, correct? s-~z-ob 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Now, the new budget which you have presented to us shows that for the same period, you made some adjustments, and the estimated total expenditures are down ~ ~ slightly to 369,663 for the remaining approximately six months; is that correct? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: For that same period of time, you're showing estimated revenues of $102,256; is that correct? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Which is almost $62,000 less than the estimated revenue which you gave us a few weeks ago; is that correct? 164,190? MR. STANTON: If -- yes, sir, if you -- yeah. JUDGE TINLEY: The difference between this new one that you've presented to us, between actual revenue and -- and expenditures for the indicated period, shows a negative of 267,4, roughly. MR. STANTON: Okay. Are the accounts receivables the same in both budgets? JUDGE TINLEY: No, the accounts receivables, of course, don't enter into operations for the indicated period. I'm looking at income and expenditures. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, I don't have the -- I 5-22-06 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 didn't bring that. I'm trying to follow, and I'm not sure what you're saying. I mean, what -- JUDGE TINLEY: I think what I'm saying is that it looks to me like that the -- the increase of deficit operations is about approximately $48,000 more than what we were given a few weeks ago, when you strictly look at -- at income and expenditures. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Would that be because one is predicated on 12 beds and the estimate is predicated on 16? JUDGE TINLEY: Actually, the 12-bed shows a greater degree of income than the 16, and you would think that the income would be higher on the 16 than on the 12. But the 12-bed income was 164; the 16-bed was 102. MR. STANTON: Well, I know that that's the difference of how y'all are looking at the two different budgets. They're both 16 beds. They're both based on 16 beds. It was just a grammatical error on the 12 and 16. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. MR. STANTON: The estimated revenue for -- from 4/06 to 9/06 was based on the income that we've received from the counties based on -- for the rest of -- remainder of the budget cycle. Ms. Williams and I sat down and tried to calculate the best we could a projected revenue for the remainder of the budget year. JUDGE TINLEY: Bottom line is that apparently the 5-22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 24 revenue estimates that were initially given several weeks ago I I appear to be significantly higher than what they should have ~ been. MR. TOMLINSON: Kevin -- MR. STANTON: I'm trying to remember what -- MR. EMERSON: I don't have the old budget. MR. STANTON: You don't have the old budget? Can I look at that one, sir? JUDGE TINLEY: Sure. MR. STANTON: Thank you very much. JUDGE TINLEY: That's the earlier estimate upon which the transition was made several weeks ago, correct? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: And that shows revenues of 164,000 during the remaining six-month period. MR. STANTON: And I -- Ms. Williams helped me do I this. JUDGE TINLEY: Now, down towards the bottom, iP I you'll just look at estimated revenue -- I it MR. STANTON: Yes, sir, I see what you mean. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. 164. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: That was the initial estimate, and now that's down to 102,250, roughly. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. 5-_~-U6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2L 23 24 ~5 25 JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. That seems to be the major difference of about $62,000 in the going-south direction. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Tommy had his hand up, Judge. MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know what's in the first -- first number, but part of it could be the -- that in the first number, you estimated some revenue from the school lunch program, and since then, that has changed and you're not -- the school has taken that over. We're not -- in the last estimate, we knew that we weren't going to get that any more, and that could amount to 2,000 or 3,000 a month. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. MR. TOMLINSON: So, that could be part of it, the difference. JUDGE TINLEY: What's the school lunch program revenue item? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, I thought -- I'm just -- I'm guessing right now. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. MR. TOMLINSON: That in the first estimate, that the school lunch program revenue could have been in that first number. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Do we know how much that was? 5-2_'-Oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 MR. TOMLINSON: It's been approximately, what, $2,500, 53,000 a month? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah. So, for six months -- JUDGE TIN LEY: Okay. MR. TOMLIN5ON: That's part of it -- could be part of the difference. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: A large part. MR. TOMLINSON: I don't know that for sure. JUDGE TINLEY: Could be $15,000, then. Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The number -- how many beds are occupied right now? MR. STANTON: Nine -- eight, I'm sorry. We lost one this morning. Eight. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the projected was running, like -- wasn't it, like, seven? It was seven to nine, eight that -- MR. STANTON: Yes, the average is seven to eight, eight to nine kids. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the billing rates haven't changed? MR. STANTON: No, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, is the revenue number based totally on occupancy? MR. STANTON: The revenue numbers -- the projected s-~t-oe 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 revenue numbers are based totally on taking the average that we've gotten each month from the County previous to this, and -- and expanding it out over the rest of the budget cycle. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Seems that the -- but we bill at -- you're billing at eighty -- MR. STANTON: Three dollars a day. COMMISSIONER LETZ: $83 a day? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: If you take $83 times 180 days, plus or minus a few days, times seven or eight, -- MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- what does that give us? I mean, I think it's a -- it's a better way to look at the revenue, is to estimate our occupancy, the daily income or loss. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right. Do we still have some accounts receivable coming in from other counties? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The accounts receivable, I'm like the Judge; that will balance itself out during the course of the budget. The Auditor will carry, you know, the account for that. JUDGE TINLEY: The 102 is based, apparently, pretty close to about seven. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. Should be somewhere -- 5-2?-Ob 28 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE TINLEY: Best I can figure, I show seven at 180 days at 104,5. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, that could be -- the difference could be -- I mean, you know, I don't know how they were calculated, whether they're going by occupancy or the revenue coming in, but to me, I mean, a better way to do it on this one, or future ones for that matter, is based on our occupancy of seven or eight, whatever it's going to be, times the number of days. As opposed to looking at our -- MR. TOMLINSON: You got to remember, in this analysis, that -- that the $288,000 in taxes is in that total revenue. That's part of the total revenue. So -- so, if you eliminate the tax out of that total revenue, then you're still short on an annual basis of approximately the 288,000. JUDGE TINLEY: It's going to be at least that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. MR. TOMLINSON: Yeah. So, I was hearing a while ago that -- that the loss was down to 37,000 or 97,000. COMMISSIONER LETZ: 288 plus 37. MR. TOMLINSON: So, that's what I'm hearing, so, okay, I just wanted to make that clear. JUDGE TINLEY: Well, the new numbers as I've calculated them here on the new modified budget as presented, the difference between estimated expenditures and estimated operational revenues show to be, for that six-month period, s_„_oF 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 22 23 24 25 29 267,400, roughly. That's the operating loss, as I've calculated it, in rough figures. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 267? JUDGE TINLEY: 267,4 for the indicated six-month period. Any other questions or comments? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I've got one. Out of the eight kids we have out there -- clients that we have out there today, how many of them are Kerr County? MR. STANTON: All eight. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: All of them? So, when we're talking about an income of $102,000, in reality, to me, the reality is -- is that this money moves from one area of the courthouse out to your place, back to another area of the courthouse. MR. STANTON: Probably about 85 percent of it, yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just an old boy that grew up out in Hunt, not real smart, but I just don't see how you can figure that as income. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's all I have to say. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval of the revised budget as presented. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval 5-22 06 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 of the revised budget as presented. Any questions or discussion? A11 in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign, (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Thank you, Mr. Stanton. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I guess a final comment. I mean, and I don't know; it seems that the big change here was on the revenue side. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think we need to amend the budget as we're going on the revenue side. If expenditures vary, which they haven't substantially varied, I think we need to -- obviously, that needs to be brought back to us. Revenue is -- is dependent more on the judges than anything you do. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Or -- and the youth, actually. You know, what's happening in the community, since they're Kerr County kids out there now. So, if the expenditure side starts varying beyond these numbers, I think we need to have a budget amendment, but from the revenue side, I think that can -- really gets caught up at the end. s-~z-oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ~5 31 MR, STANTON: Well, I know that later in the afternoon, they're going to -- or later this morning, they've got some budget requests that they're going to be presenting, and they're having to move some of the excess funds out of 572-104 down to some maintenance line items and things like that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I did have one question about that, but I can save that question till later, or just direct it to you now. I think there was a large medical expense, I believe, in one of them? MR, STANTON: Yes, sir. It was an out-of-county kid, I believe. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's what I wanted to know. An out-of-county kid, that's reimbursable to the County? MR, STANTON: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: In response to your concern, Commissioner Letz, the -- the modified budget has expenditures reduced from the earlier estimate by almost $14,000, so the estimates of expenditures on the modified budget are down by about $14,000 from the original budget presented a few weeks ago. MR. STANTON: The budget that was presented a few weeks ago -- just to clarify, the budget that was -- we now have some solid salary figures that we can go by. Before, we s-zz-oE 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 32 were projecting; we didn't know who was going to be staying and who was going to be going, so that had a lot to -- being able to pinpoint it. One other thing, before we leave this and go on with the budget, is that we've been -- and this could affect the budget down the road, is that we've been receiving requests from some of our -- some of the counties down on the coast, wanting to know if we're still going to be able to assist them in hurricane evacuation type situations. And one of the counties, Nueces County, we currently have a contract with for short-term detention. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: At $83 a day? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We need to amend that contract. They need to pay full price. MR. STANTON: And they -- I just received a phone call, I guess last -- last Thursday or Friday, and they're wanting to know if we're still going to be able to do that. So, I guess that's something that we need to put on the agenda to discuss at a later time, but that could have an effect on the budget. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess -- you know, and just -- I think we do need to put it on the agenda to discuss, but I think we end up in a situation -- I don't see how we -- we're certainly not going to increase our staffing just because of a hurricane evacuation, so -- s-zz-o~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 33 MR. STANTON: Well, both counties that I've talked to have -- they're bringing their own staff. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We need to -- yeah. I think, i when you put it back on the agenda, let us look at what -- we're also not going to lose any money. MR. STANTON: No, I agree. And they -- and I explained to them that we were running a 24-bed facility now, but that we still had the other building that could be made available if -- if they brought their own staff to staff that with, possible. But I told them that was something that we would need to discuss with the Commissioners Court. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think we need to take a look at what to recommend as a per diem rate, too. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. Well, they're contracted with us at $83 a day. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The contract's going to have to be changed. We're not going to lose money. MR, STANTON: No, I understand. But if we're not having to pay for the staff, I don't believe we'd be losing money. JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah, there would be a material difference if they're providing staffing for their own residents. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir, JUDGE TINLEY: That's an interesting concept. _-__-o~ 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It sure is. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It's a good concept. JUDGE TINLEY: Talking about payroll just getting stabilized, I think that brings us right down to the next item. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to extend the Kerr County Juvenile Facility comp time policy. MR. STANTON: I`d like to present y'all with -- this is a new updated version of what y'all have. There was one error in the original one that we corrected. There was one person that their comp time had got left off. JUDGE TINLEY: As I recall, the previous action by the Court extended the comp time rollover through the end of June, if I'm not mistaken. Through June? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. I' MR. STANTON: That's my understanding. JUDGE TINLEY: And -- MR. STANTON: We're coming up on that date, and I was just wondering how you want -- or how the Commissioners Court wanted to go about extending it or -- or paying it off. Those are the numbers that we're looking at, the ones you have in your hand is approximately what it would cost to -- to pay it off. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Do you think, if we gave you one more month, is there a -- can you substantially reduce these, s-z2-oc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 35 do you think? MR. STANTON: I doubt we'd be able to substantially reduce it. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Why not till the end of the budget year? Would that help? MR. STANTON: I believe it would help. I mean, I've got people scheduled to take off as much as I can. When our numbers go down, we've been letting people go, just as long as we stay in ratio. We're doing everything we can as far as cutting the numbers down. The one thing we have to keep in mind -- or that I have to keep in mind is that every time I let somebody take vacation or comp time off, I have to -- for staffing ratios, I have to pull in a part-timer, and that -- that brings that line item up and this one down. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, the number's been reduced a lot from where it was originally. It was around 28,000, I believe, originally, down to 11. I'd like to try and reduce it. I'd rather try to get -- if we have to write some checks towards the end of the year and be done with it, rather than rushing at the very end, so I don't mind extending it maybe to August 31st. I'd hate to go to September 30th, because we have so much going on that last month trying to do comp time and budgets and all that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay, August 31st is good. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a motion that we s-~z-oF 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 extend the comp time -- what's the -- we extend the time to allow the comp time to be taken care of or reduced out of the Kerr County Juvenile Detention Facility until -- till August 31st, -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll second. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- 2006. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded as indicated. Any question or discussion on the motion? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just one quick question. MR. STANTON: Yes, sir? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: These 19 folks here on this list are presently employed? MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you. JUDGE TINLEY: Any further question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. MR. STANTON: Thank you very much. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Let's go to Item 6; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on the Texas VINE annual maintenance grant contract for Fiscal Year 2006. s-zz-oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 37 Sheriff Hierholzer? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is just a renewal. This contract hasn't, and I don't expect that it ever costs us anything. The Attorney General's office pays for it. What it is, is victim notification, where people can sign up on the I computer and get notified instantly of any act or change in status, court date, get released on bond. And, in fact, we just had their computer go down, and they replaced it Friday. COMMISSIONER LETZ: No cost to the County? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No cost to the County. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval to extend the VINE grant application. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the agenda item. Any question or discussion? All in favor of that motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Here's the one that -- two or three copies. JUDGE TINLEY: Let's go to Item 9, if we might. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the purchase of a laptop computer with wireless capability for s-zz-o6 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 field work. Mr. Odom? MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. Thank you, Judge. We would like to use the remainder of our budgeted funds in Capital Outlays to purchase a laptop computer with wireless capabilities to use in the field. I see a head shaking over there. We have 1327, and we would like to use that for the capability, when we go out on complaints, to be able to identify property, find out who the owner is, or if there is a maintenance deal, maybe to contact those people. It's difficult to come back in and start talking about which piece of property again. So, sometimes we have addresses; we can do that. Also, with floodplain, to identify on the floodplain map if there's a complaint, that we can identify property owners and try to get hold of them. COMMISSIONER LETZ: My head shake is not against getting it; my head shake is against getting it now. If it's something you need, I think you should put it in next year's budget. And the reason, Leonard, is that most departments underspend a little bit on their capital outlay, and my feeling is that we should -- is we're approving items as much as -- probably more than money. The item, we may save a little bit there, but if we allow you to spend yours to zero, we're going to get every other department coming in here wanting to spend theirs to zero buying something. I think it's a bad precedent, so I think put it on next year's budget; _,-22-06 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39 I'll support it. MR. ODOM: I would have to modify that. I did -- we tried to pick up two; one for next budget year, and we thought we might be able to do this one. So, I guess when I talk to the Judge and the Court, we'll see where I can come up with money. Money for next time is pretty tight, trying to make it work. It was -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Where would you put this computer, anyhow? Which -- MR. ODOM: I would have it in my truck. Or if I send -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You'd have it in your truck? MR. ODOM: Basically, yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The -- I'm with Commissioner Letz, only I'm going to add to it that the words, "we have some money left over; let's run out there and spend it," is -- let's don't say that in public. MR. ODOM: Well, if I said that, I apologize. Wrong use of the English language. I have excess money that I have had savings in capital outlays, that I was very expedient and very professional where I saved money. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that close? COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He went into his typical Aggie defensive mode. JODGE TINLEY: Mr. Odom's trying to tell you, 5-22-U6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 40 Commissioner Baldwin, that he's been very, very frugal in his scheduled -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I understand. JUDGE TINLEY: -- capital outlay items, and he's been able to achieve significant savings; he wants to continue to do that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think we understand him. MR. ODOM: And it means 99 percent was right on, so you've got about 1 percent of my Capital Outlay budget. Very frugal. We squeezed dimes out of dollars. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Congratulations on your I frugality. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right, congratulations. MR. ODOM: Seems like -- JUDGE TINLEY: Mr. Odom, I think that's all you're going to get out of this item today. Congratulations. MR. ODOM: I think -- next item, yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Let's move, if we might, to Item 10; consider, discuss and take appropriate action to correct Court Order Number 29671 to Creekwood, Roman numeral V, instead of Creekwood, Roman numeral II, located in Precinct 2. MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. Last time, Lot 25 of Twin Springs II is adjacent to both Creekwood II and Creekwood V. On May the 8th, we thought it was being added to Creekwood II; however, it's to be added to Creekwood V. This error was s-zz-oe 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 found before the publications for the public hearing; therefore, we ask that you amend Court Order Number 29671 to read Creekwood V, Volume 7, Page 160. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This does not affect the notifications that we -- the Court asked to you send out? MR. ODOM: No. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Correct? MR. ODOM: Correct. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll so move. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the agenda item as indicated. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. I (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move to Item 11; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the preliminary plat of Ranger Park, located in Precinct 2. MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. This was before you once before as a concept plan. This was the business park in Center Point. What you have before you looks fine, and I would ask the Court that they would accept it as the preliminary plat. s-zz-oe 92 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This -- this memorializes all of the points that the Court made with respect to the division of the property and the road and the cul-de-sac and the setbacks and so forth; is that correct? MR. ODOM: That's correct, sir. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I would move approval. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the agenda item. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mr. Voelkel had his hand up. MR. VOELKEL: Before y'all vote on that, Ms. Cunningham is here with us today. Can we get some direction as to the preliminary plat approval before we move on with the final plat and construction of the road? Could you just go over it one more time? I was not here for that concept plan. The requirements for the road, itself. You'll notice on there that we've got a 50-foot right-of-way, and I understand that was one of the considerations, and a 10-foot setback as opposed to a 20 just was another consideration. As far as the construction of the road, country lane, local road, whatever y'all discussed. If we could just go over that one more time? MR. ODOM: That was 20-foot pavement. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. MR. ODOM: And 8 inches of base. s-zz o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 43 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right. MR. ODOM: We upgraded it because it was a commercial. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes, it was upgraded because of commercial. MR. ODOM: That's right. JUDGE TINLEY: Because of traffic. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I was also -- I was not present at that concept plan, and I think, Ms. Cunningham, my preference would be to do a 60-foot right-of-way, zero setback. Just because I think the setback is not -- I'm much more inclined to give up on the setback rather than the right-of-way. The net effect doesn't change anything, but I believe that this is how the concept plan was approved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It is. It's consistent with the concept plan. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just my comment. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I might ask the question, is there any problem with going to the 60-foot and eliminating a i setback? MS. CUNNINGHAM: I don't know. I just have to go back and Look at it, I guess. I thought that we had, you know, discussed that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We had. And what -- the motion was consistent with what we had talked about approving 5-22-Oh 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 L1 22 23 24 25 the concept plan, but we're just raising the question. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know how it would change anything, other than it changes -- what it does, it reduces the lot sizes to slightly less than an acre, but I don't -- in a commercial development, from our standpoint, it doesn't make any difference. I mean, I don't know that 1 acre is a magic number. There's no meaning from an industrial development standpoint, according to our rules. Going with a -- a 50-foot right-of-way is a departure from our rules, and I think it's a bad precedent. You know, I will say, at the same time, I've said that commercial developments are different, and, you know, I don't think it's a precedent necessarily for our residential. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think that was the whole key to it, Commissioner, that it was not precedent-setting for residential, and that our experience in the commercial development area is modest at best. MR. ODOM: Yes, this is only the second development. So, we got the cul-de-sac with a turn-around down there. We felt like the truck traffic wouldn't be that much up in there, and that was discussed, and so that was the reason we did it. We felt like we could turn around and we would not have -- it's not a through situation, and it's a private road, I believe. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll go along with it. Just -- s-zz-os 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ~0 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't want to tell the lady one thing and then come along later and tell her something else. That's ridiculous to do that. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't either. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But I don't recall -- I recall talking about the base, the thickness of the base and the width of the driving surface and those kinds of things, but I don't remember what the numbers were. Are they -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What Leonard represented is correct. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that what it is? MR, ODOM: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And it's heavier because of i the truck traffic. MR. ODOM: Truck traffic. Instead of 6 inches, we went to 8 inches of base, and the cul-de-sac at the end. We had a 20-foot pavement, so we wouldn't have edging on the thing. We modified the 60 to a 50 because we had the 10-foot setback. It just squeezed her -- the acreage she's got is -- it squeezes the business park. But, then again, the rules say this is -- when we go to a business park, it's at y'all's discretion. JUDGE TINLEY: And that's the consensus that you just -- what you just mentioned was the consensus that we indicated to her in the previous meeting. s-„ of 46 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. ODOM: That's correct. JUDGE TINLEY: I think that's what we need to go with. That's what we told her. MR. ODOM: 1 would recommend that you accept what we have. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What else, Voelkel? MR. VOELKEL: One other question. With our new rules now, the road needs to be engineered plan profile. I'm making sure -- that's what y'all would like for this road? MR. ODOM: The rules say if it's less than 3, or 20 acres or greater. But this is a business park. You know, we were talking about this. It's sort of flat, and we talked about it last week, whether we would go with the detailed study or not. So, we felt like that was probably -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'm sorry. I missed your question, Lee. MR. VOELKEL: My understanding with the new rules, Commissioner, is that the road has to be engineered, and it has to do what the engineers call plan profiles, which is a design for the road. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh. MR. VOELKEL: My question was, is that what we need to do to get this road approved? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, again, was the engineering design planning issue on the table when we 5-22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1S 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 47 approved it the first time? MR. ODOM: This came under the old rules, is what we were looking at. I II COMMISSIONER SALDWIN: That's where I'm at, then. !! Whatever we approved the Eirst time. MR. ODOM: And I would say that that's flat. I do believe that you need the 2- and 5-year, if there's any cross on that, but as far as the major drainage plan, I think we decided that we were not going to do that. It was small and it was isolated there, but we do need to look at the 2- and 5-year if have you cross. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's my recollection. MR. ODOM: And we were doing it under the old rules, because we hadn't had anything affirmative as far as the Court accepting the new rules at that time. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Two -- two comments on that. On Lee's question, I think because of the -- I mean, I think it's -- plan profiles, being an industrial park, it's kind of exempted from -- our standard rules just don't apply. But probably, based on the terrain here and the way it's been laid out, I don't have a problem with not having engineered roads. Other side of that, though, is, as Commissioner Baldwin commented, the fact that concept plans are not intended to set out all of our exact requirements, and should never do so. Concept plans are to give us an idea of what a developer is s ~2 06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ZO 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 L1 22 23 24 25 48 trying to do. And because a comment is made at a concept plan, I don't think the Court is bound by it. And I wasn't here at that meeting; I don't know how it was said, if it was said that way. Concept plans are not -- usually, we don't even vote on concept plans. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I agree with you 100 percent. I just -- you know, I just think when we -- when they left here the last time, it was kind of a -- it was kind of, "This is what you need to do, and we'll see you when you" -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- "come back." Of course, ttie real question is about this Dixie Chick thing. Are any of y'all involved in this subdivision Dixie Chick buyers? MR. ODOM: I heard Mr. Voelkel was datinq one of them. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. MR. ODOM: That's just rumor. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This subdivision is over. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. What action do we need to take, gentlemen? COMMISSIONER WTLLTAMS: Ready for a vote. JUDGE TINLEY: Do we have a motion and a second? Okay. Any further question or discussion on the motion? COMMISSIONER WTLLIAMS: Do we have a motion? MS. THOMPSON: We have a motion and second. s-z2-oF 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2 S JUDGE TINLEY: Any further questions on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right I I i hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Thank you. Let's move to Item 12; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the preliminary plat of Lasso Ranch located in Precinct 3. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll just make a brief comment. This is up in the far -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Go ahead. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm the Commissioner of Precinct 13. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, is this the one that's up in your neighborhood? COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. ~ COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's in my precinct, but no, this is up in -- this is in the far -- far, far northeastern corner of the county, kind of real near Gillespie County, and this is the -- MR. ODOM: Off Hasenwinkel -- or Bear Creek. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And it is -- even though it 5-22-06 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 refers to the owner as 210 Blanco Ranch L.P., that is actually Mr. Dale Crenwelge at Crenwelge Development. As I understand, it's going to be -- looks like a good development, from what I can see. Large tracts. I believe it's going to be a county road. Correct, Len? Or is it private road? MR. ODOM: Private. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: How do you get there? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Go up Hasenwinkel Road, which comes off Cypress Creek Road. It con -- Hasenwinkel continues all the way up to Highway 16. MR. ODOM: Yeah. This is exempt from a drainage plan, because you're over 20 acres; however, it still will need the 2- and 5-year there. And it's a good project, large acreage, and Hasenwinkel's a developing area. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. MR. ODOM: A lot of raw land out that way. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The only real, I guess, comment that I have -- and I presume that name went through -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 9-1-1. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- 9-1-1? To me, if you're i going to call it a loop, it should be a loop, and I don't see this road as being anything but a dead-end. MR. VOELKEL: We talked to Mr. Crenwelge; he's going to get the name -- the word "Loop" removed; it's just going to be Dally Road. s-za-oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ~l 22 23 24 25 51 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Da11y Road, okay. And it's just going to be -- is this going to be private roads? MR. ODOM: Yes, private roads. In Note Number 5, it says it right there at the bottom, the road will be a private road, not maintained by Kerr County. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm just picking up on the language here. This is pretty cool. Lasso. Dally. Need to have a "Pigging String." This is pretty cool. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval. COMMISSIONER WILLlAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the agenda item, preliminary plat. Any question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY": All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Let's move quickly to Item 13. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to set a public hearing for revision of plat of Lots 13 and 14 of Cypress Springs, Phase I, as set forth in Volume 7, Page 12, Plat Records, and located in Precinct 4. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The request is, Judge, for June 26th at 10 a.m. in the backup here. -zz-uH 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 52 MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. This is moving a lot line, and it involves 19 and 13, and it's .08 acres. By moving that line, it is decreasing 19 and increasing 13 by eight-hundredths of an acre. That's all it is, and I ask that the Court go ahead -- MR. VOELKEL: Just another comment, just for information. Both of those lots already have residences on them. Both of those lots have already been permitted with septics. There is a water system. Both of them are served by that water system. These two individuals that own the lots just basically want to square it up, and that's the reason for changing the line. And they will both participate on the plat as owners and agreeing to do so. JUDGE TINLEY: And you're asking for a public hearing on this matter for June the 26th this year at 10 a.m.? MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded to set a public hearing for June the 26th, 2006, at 10 a.m. for revision of plat of Lots 13 and 14 of Cypress Springs, Phase I, as set forth in Volume 7, Page 12, Plat Records. Any question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 5-22-06 53 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. At this time, I will recess the Commissioners Court meeting, and I will open a public hearing for the revision of Lot 60 of Wood Trails Ranch, as set forth in Volume 4, Page 98, Plat Records of Kerr County, and located in Precinct 4. {The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10:03 a.m., and a public hearing was held in open court, as follows:) P U B L I C H E A R I N G JUDGE TINLEY: Is there any member of the public that wishes to be heard with regard to the revision of Lot 60 of Wood Trails Ranch, as set forth in Volume 4, Page 98, Plat Records, located in Precinct 4? Yes, ma'am? MS. SUMMERLIN: Mary Ellen Summerlin. JUDGE TINLEY: Come forward, please. We'll be happy I to hear what you have to say. MS. SUMMERLIN: Three of us are here from Headwaters, and I'd like you to hear from Gene first. Would that be all right? JUDGE TINLEY: That'd be fine. MS. SUMMERLIN: Gene Williams. MR. WILLIAMS: I'm Gene Williams, General Manager of Headwaters Groundwater ConservatLon District. I spoke to the Court previously on this matter, and to Mr. Voelkel. I would s-za-oE 1 "" 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 -- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 "'"' 2 4 25 59 like to point out, I sent Commissioner Letz an e-mail this last week on a situation the same as what we're dealing with here, which is after the fact. It's after a property has been split. The realtor says the new prospective buyer wants to buy the property, but yet doesn't want to share the well along with a neighbor, so he chooses to want to drill his own well on 2.12 acres, and then in the future, split that lot off and put an office on the 2.12 acres and sell the house, which would require another well. So, the main issue that I would II like to point out to the Commissioners is to urge you to I consider replatting the same as new plats in respect to water availability, the water availability issue of 5 acres per well. I understand you intend to put the language on the plat to prohibit the drilling of individual wells on lots that are split off, On this property in question, I don't believe that would be enforceab]e. Once the property exchanges hands down the road and owners come to Headwaters, and that would be their only source of water for their house, would be to drill a well, I don't believe we could deny that. Aiso, our current Headwaters rules state that no well may be drilled on a tract of land less than 5 acres that was divided and/or platted after June 10th of 2002. And I would also like to point out that a shared well is not a community well. I think Chapter 5-'2-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 55 require that to be a community well if it serves more than one lot, which would go through T.C.E.Q. and become a public water supply well, because it would be required to come up to public drinking water standards. So, that would be the position of Headwaters, that we issue permits to drill wells on 5 acres or more. We can't control what happens after the fact on the property. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me make sure I heard what you said. We have -- we were going -- we were requesting to be put on the plat that you cannot drill a well on this lot in the future. MR. WILLIAMS: Correct. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And then that property changes hands to a new owner, and then they come to you and say, "We want a well," regardless of what Commissioners Court says. And you -- you cannot deny them a well at that point? MR. WILLIAMS: If -- if the existing owner that owns the well on the property that was sharing a well cuts their water off, for whatever reason -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm. MR. WILLIAMS: -- no, sir, I don't believe we can. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, how can we? COMMISSIONER LETZ: I -- I'd like to refer this -- and I think it really -- it's a public hearing. Before we qet into a dialogue, I think it needs to be referred to the County 5-2^-06 56 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Attorney, because I disagree that you can't deny it. I think you have to enforce the rule, the laws of the state and the county. And if we put it on a plat, by god, that's the law, the way I look at it. Maybe I've always looked at these plats wrong, but I think you're enforcing the law of the county. MR. VOELKEL: Just like anything on a plat; unless you revise that plat, it's still enforceable. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I think -- I mean, but the -- to answer, I think the County Attorney needs to give me some guidance on that as to is it a flat law of the state of Texas? Or is -- bottom line, I mean, is it enforceable by other entities? And that's, I think, what you need to find out. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I wasn't jumping on you; I was just trying to clarify. MR. WILLIAMS: The scenario I'm making is the owner of the well cuts the other lots off. They have a home on the lot with no other source of water than to drill a well. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. JUDGE TINLEY: It's your understanding of the law that is applicable to Headwaters, if a homeowner who's living there, domestic use, is in that position, that you cannot deny them the right to drill a well? That's what you're telling us? MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, sir. s-'z-oE 1 °"` 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 -- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 "' 2 4 25 57 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I'm not going to try to get into it with Headwaters, but to the County Attorney, though, there was an issue that was brought up there about community wells, shared wells. And I really don't know that, but I'd like the County Attorney to look at it from our standpoint, water availability, what our ability and authority is in that area, because it's -- evidently, I didn't know there was ever a difference. I thought it was the same if it was less than 15 connections. JUDGE TINLEY: Ms. Summerlin, Dr. Morgan, do either of you desire to be heard further on this issue? MS. SUMMERLIN: Just briefly, sir. MR. MORGAN: Gordon Morgan, member of Headwaters Board. I think we're probably dealing more with a concept than, you know, with an individual situation just here, I think the concept being that we want to have availability of water. We feel confident that we can if we have 5 acres of households closer than -- within the 5 acres, then we're beginning to encroach upon the availability in the future of water for their usage. If -- and that is kind of the concept that we're operating on, which, you know, we worked together to have the 5 acres, to come up with that as a guideline that we can all go by that will protect the future availability as well as service and provide water for the people that need it 5_^^-oF 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 58 at this point in time. So, along with the idea of the concept, if at all possible, we at Headwaters can feel I confident we can freely allow people to have wells on 5 acres I II of land, as long as they use it for the purposes they desire. II On the other hand, if we start making smaller ~~ subdivisions of land than 5 acres, then we're going to get into more rules, more regulations, more individual permitting rather than across-the-board, always fair, always equitab]e, and try to keep it that way. That is really our desire. And, as you all had stated in 2002, you all wanted 5 acres, we want 5 acres. And that is where I, as an individual board member, would like to lake a stand. It's not going to please everyone. But also, if we break it down and make it in smaller acreages, it's certainly not going to please everyone, because everyone will be coming in and asking for an exception, asking for their own particular problems to be solved, and that makes it hard on everyone. So, we would prefer going by the rules, as we have. Our new rules state -- and are designed to go along with the County's rules, that there will not be a lot size less than 5 acres. We consider replats -- as the manager, Gene, said, we consider replats as platting. And, therefore, since 2002, we would prefer to keep all of them at 5 acres. Thank you. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, sir. Ms. Summerlin? MS. SUMMERLIN: My name is Mary Ellen Summerlin. -2^_-06 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 59 I'm the President of the Headwaters Board, and I'm just here to reunderline what Gordon said, and to confirm that although the Headwaters Board has not taken formal action on this position in an open meeting, I know from our rules workshop, and I have doublechecked with all the members over the weekend i that this is our unanimous consensus position, and that we really recommend and urge you to take it very seriously; that if we'll stick to the 5-acre rule, we can all feel pretty safe. But if we start cutting down to smaller and smaller size lots, and then people have a fight and the shared well is no longer shared, and they come to us with a house and a family and a lot that's got no water, we're going to be -- our concern is that we're going to be caught between what the plat says and what Chapter 36 says, which is that if somebody's got the necessity for domestic use, we're pretty much stuck. And then we end up with all these little wells all over the county, and pretty soon maybe they are interfering with each other. We want to avoid getting into a situation where one neighbor's well makes the other one have to be lowered or drilled deeper. It's just too expensive. Let's just -- let's just be tight from the start, instead of having to scramble at the end and try to come up with something that's fair and equitable for everybody. That`s just what we urge you to consider. Thank you very much. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, ma'am. Is there any other s ~z-o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2G 23 24 25 60 member of the public that wishes to be heard with respect to the revision of Lot 60 of Wood Trails Ranch, as indicated in Volume 4, Page 98, Plat Records, and located in Precinct 4? Seeing no one else seeking to be recognized, I will close the public hearing, and I will reconvene the Commissioners Court meeting. (The public hearing was concluded at 10:14 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was reopened.) JUDGE TINLEY: We have a timed item for 10 o'clock, being Item 8. MR. VOELKEL: Excuse me, Judge. I'm sorry. I thought we were going to discuss this after the public hearing. Can we discuss it some more after the public hearing? JUDGE TINLEY: It's not shown as an agenda item, so -- MR. VOELKEL: As far -- I guess as far as some direction on what -- what we need to do, can this be approved or can this not be approved? Or what -- where do we go from here? JUDGE TINLEY: We're going to have to get it back before us as an agenda item. And I -- the only -- the only indication I can give you, Mr. Voelkel, is that it appears that, from the Court's standpoint, we've kind of laid it off 5 22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 61 into the County Attorney's lap at this point, and I suspect we're going to -- we're going to defer doing anything definitive until such time as we get some response from him. And then, based on what we get from him, we'll go forward on that basis. But we don't have an agenda item that we can go forward on at this point. Okay, sir? MR. VOELKEL: Okay. ~~ JUDGE TINLEY: The timed item for 10 o'clock, an additional timed item, Item 8, is to consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to award a bid for the Town Creek Improvements in Precinct 1 and Precinct 3. MS. SUMMERLIN: Judge Tinley? JUDGE TINLEY: Yes, ma'am? MS. SUMMERLIN: May I be recognized for just a minute? I'm afraid I may have misspoken when I was talking to y'all. I think the fact that I said I "polled" the members of the board would put me in violation of the Open Meetings Act. I think that it is legal for me to have visited with -- individually with members of the board. I did not -- I spoke to another board member, who had spoken to another board member. In no way did we vote on any kind of thing over the phone over the weekend. That's -- I just want to make that clear. JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, ma'am. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Whew. 5 22-06 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. What do you have for us, I Mr. Odom? MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. I would like for the Court to consider awarding our Town Creek project in Precinct 1 and 3 -- basically, the splitting line's right along in there -- to Allen Keller and Company, and to authorize the Judge to sign the notice of award. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second, with the direction that most of the money get spent in Precinct 3. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Nay, can't be done. It just cannot be done. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of the awarding of bid to -- on the Town Creek Improvements to Allen Keller Company in accordance with the recommendation of the consulting engineer and Mr. Odom. Any question or discussion? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question. What's the timeline for the project, Leonard? MR. ODOM: It is 90 days. We think that it will start by 60 days, construction, so that's calendar days, so we're hoping if we start sometime in August, maybe before school hits, we'll have it opened by September 1st, we ought to have it, if not sooner. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This is work that's required -~~-06 63 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 because of the Holdsworth Drive cut-across; is that right? MR. ODOM: That is the concept, is to use that. But what it was, was an offset from the Highway Department at Hermann Sons. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I understand that, but the necessity to do it -- MR. ODOM: The necessity is to do that for that Holdsworth right there, sir. COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's really more the development coming into the Holdsworth area, anticipated by Holdsworth. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: He said it really more correctly. It's not because that road is coming through there; that didn't affect us. We've been talking about this long before that road -- MR. ODOM: Long before. There's a lot of raw land. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We're upgrading County-owned ~ property. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before the development hits. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Before the development hits. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think that's a great idea. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. And you won't find many commissioners courts that get out in front of the game. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Absolutely. MR. ODOM: Oh, well, y'all are out in front of it. SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Is that why most of it's in 3? 5-2"~-Ov 64 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, most of it is not in 3; just a tiny part of it is in 3. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: None goes to 2, right? JUDGE TINLEY: Anybody have any other discussion that's germane to the motion? Any other questions or comments on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move, if we might, to Item -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, I have a quick question that I neglected to ask on that. Leonard, as I recall, it was, like, 100 something -- MR. ODOM: 110,000. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- on Hermann Sons there, something -- 81,000. MR. ODOM: This is 81 plus the engineering that we've done, and what I'm going to be doing is presenting to the Court for y'all's review the engineering hydrology to be done on the other end down there by Old Harper Road, and we'll see where that takes us. And then the next budget year, we'll see if we hit it. But we ought to hit the 110 pretty close by the time we get the hydrology done on the next structure down 5-^^<2-G6 65 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 there. COMMISSIONER LETZ: We just need -- I just want to make sure that we track it closely to make sure that we don't end up in violation of the -- MR. ODOM: No, sir. I had three years from the time that that was complete, so we're -- we were a year ahead before it was complete. Last year we looked at hydrology on it; now we're out for bid. We'll look at hydrology on the other portion down by Old Harper Road, and then we'll see where we're at. We ought to hit the 110 and hit the agreement we made with the State, and then we'll look at next budget year to complete that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. I just want to make sure -- we don't want to get in violation of the State, and all of a sudden get a million-dollar bridge from Hermann Sons -- MR. ODOM: Not interested in that. I think y'all would ask me to leave to go to retirement, I think. JUDGE TINLEY: You're very perceptive. Okay. Let's move to Item 14. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to approve the final plat of 707 Ranch located in Precinct 4. MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. We had this before at concept, and then it was an alternate plat; it was raw land. What we're doing is dividing this up, and I ask the Court to accept 5-22-06 66 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 this as a final in Precinct 4. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Tell me again -- oh, it's out there off of Goat Creek? MR. ODOM: It is off Shalako, sir. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Shalako. MR. ODOM: Yes, sir, up there at High Point. JUDGE TINLEY: High Point. MR. ODOM: By High Point right there. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I remember it now. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. Remember, we were talking about horse trailers going up and down the road. MR. ODOM: It was a private road; still be a private road. We were talking about a cul-de-sac, whether we needed it or not. There's a turnaround down below down there, but we're hitting the 200-foot frontage up here in front, so it works. Lot 2 has no intentions to be built on, other than no obstruction. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion and second to approve the final plat of 707 Ranch located in Precinct 4. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. 5 2 2- 0 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 67 (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: Why don't we take this opportunity to take our mid-morning break. We'll come back in about 15, 20 minutes. (Recess taken from 10:21 a.m, to 10:43 a.m.) JUDGE TINLEY: Let's come back to order. We were in recess for 15, 20 minutes, and we'll move now to Item 15; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to review preparation of payroll and other personnel-slash-human resources functions for Kerr County. Commissioner Letz? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. I put this on the agenda based on our last meeting. We -- there was some discussion at that meeting about contacting the private sector and seeing if there are firms that can do this, and if they would give us a proposal. And during that discussion, the question came up, can we legally do that? Can we outsource this portion of it? I asked the County Attorney to look into it. I know I, and I believe everyone on the Court, received comments, and I'll turn it over to the County Attorney to summarize it, but as I read it, yes, we can do that, in his opinion. And, so, Rex, is that -- MR. EMERSON: That's an excellent summary. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Excellent summary, yes. That being said, I'd like to do it; I'd like to go out and just see 5-22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 -- 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 68 what is available. I'm not saying we're definitely -- this is to -- it's kind of the first step, in my opinion. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What you're talking about is soliciting requests for proposals to prepare a payroll, county-wide -- not just department-wide, county-wide payroll -- up to the point of turning it over for the Treasurer and the Auditor to confirm accuracy and disbursement of payment; is that correct? COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's correct. But I would also expand it to other human resources functions while we're doing it. I think the thing that really is -- the payroll function is one of the -- you know, I think is the first thing that I'd like to do; I think it's probably the most reasonable. But I'd also like to see what the private sector can do for some human resources -- some of the insurance stuff, possibly. I don't know what's out there. I hear advertisements on the radio frequently about companies that do this type of thing, and I'd like to see what they really have to offer. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I was in visits with a couple of people over the weekend in regard to this, and a fellow that knows about this kind of stuff highly recommended -- recommended that we do it. It seemed to me 5-Z2 06 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 69 that the law says that the County, or particularly the County Treasurer, is responsible for disbursement of checks, and that the private sector can do everything else, prepare everything, get the check back in here for the Treasurer's signature, and the Treasurer disburses it and everybody's needs are met, and can be done a lot -- very quickly and cheaply. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I'll just make a comment; I see the Treasurer here. The Treasurer called me, I guess, Friday -- you called me Friday? -- and said she supports us doing this. I mean, this is not -- just so the public's aware, we're not in a fight with the Treasurer's office. She thinks it's a good idea to go out and find out what's out there in the private sector. If it's a better way to do it, let's do it. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We11, that's good. And I -- ' as you know, I noted the last time that I thought that we II should take a look at the whole human resources package. There's a lot that takes place within the realm of human resources. The question in my mind is, is our employee group large enough to sustain that as a separate entity? And what would we -- what would be embodied in that in a new job? So, I'd like to take a look at all of it. COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I -- you know, I guess the biggest question I have on this is -- is, you know, how we go about soliciting -- s-zz-o6 ~o 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 L G 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Have to develop an RFP. COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- the proposals. I mean, I think this is also -- I would think this qualifies as professional services. Does it? I mean, we're talking about an accounting-type function, which would be a professional type service, and I think human resources in general could be professional services. That being -- and assuming that, I'm looking for a nod or a shake of the head of the County Attorney. If it -- if it is a professional service, then I think we need to probably go out and solicit from as many i companies as we can. And the reason I think that way is better, I think we can look locally and look in the San Antonio area as well. I hate to just do a -- put it out to the public to find it, because the public may not find it. I just want to make sure that we do get some feedback, and the feedback may be that none of them want to do it, which would tell us something. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We've got to identify the scope of services we're lookinq for. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. Correct. I think we need to identify the scope of services, and then I think probably have the court coordinator contact the -- do a little bit of research and find the number of people and get that scope of services to them. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, the fellow I was 5- L ~- O h 71 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 dealing with is a C.P.A. guy, and he was -- seemed to be very well-versed in this thing and understood it, and rattled off, like, five or six different companies that, you know, just -- I you know, it's just like it wasn't a big deal. You go out there and show -- so I think all that stuff's going to be easy to do. We probably need to -- maybe we can use him to ask him, you know, who these companies are to get the information to. But -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Who's "him"? JUDGE TINLEY: Sounds like we've identified our lead member of the Court here. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That did it. They've really made me mad now. JUDGE TINLEY: Is that what you heard? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sure. I have no problems at all with that approach. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, I'll get him in touch with you today. Today. That's how fast -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh, that's a slick move there, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, thank you. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we probably need to get a little bit of -- our court coordinator needs -- not court coordinator; our member of the Court needs to also get with the Treasurer's office as well, 'cause I think there's, you s-~_-oh 72 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 know, information there as to what specifically they -- I mean, how things are coming in right now, which are going to be part of the question. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I think if we're looking, we also have to look -- we have to look in terms of payroll-slash-and/or human resources as a whole package. They have to identify the scope of their services in that case. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right, I think we need to -- I would agree, we need to identify the scope of services, which is payroll, state filings, federal filings, you know. I mean, you can -- you know, the personnel function, the insurance function. I mean, there's a whole list. I don't know where you draw that line. But I think you try and get as much information up front as you can on the scope of services. Then you -- once we select a company, if we get to that point, then we try to narrow it down on some of, you know, the things, how we do it with our internal organization. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'm sure glad Commissioner Baldwin volunteered to do that. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I did not, but I'll volunteer you to do that. I'll work with you, Bill. I'll help you all I can. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I appreciate it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, at our next meeting, we'll 5-_'2-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 73 have it back on the agenda, hopefully, or maybe the meeting after that, probably. JUDGE TINLEY: Anything further on that particular agenda item? We got some general direction there. Does any member of the Court have anything to offer that needs to be considered in executive or closed session? Okay, we will move on from there. Let's move on to our approval agenda. Payment of the bills. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I'd like to make a motion that we pay our bills. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll second the motion. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded to pay the bills. Any question or discussion? Mr. Auditor, I've got some questions here. MR. TOMLINSON: Okay. JUDGE TINLEY: Under Commissioners Court, tell me a little bit more about this $10,000 payment, Columbia Casualty. Is that our deductible? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Okay, I thought that's what that was. MR. TOMLINSON: That was the -- that's actually -- do you remember last meeting, we had a -- a budget amendment? JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm. MR. TOMLINSON: That amendment was to handle this 5 <<-or, 74 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 payment. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Okay, let's go to Page 7, if you wouldn't mind. There's a payment there showing to Grimes for an obvious transport of a -- of a deceased. Looks like it's being charged to a copier lease. MR. TOMLINSON: That's -- we'll research that. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Misspelled Letz, too. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But they did not misspell the deceased's name; that's how you spell his name. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think Loetz is spelled probably correctly, differently. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Lease copier. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Page 23, the V.A.W.A. prosecutor. Is that individual prohibited from any outside practice? MR. EMERSON: You mean civil practice on the side? JUDGE TINLEY: Any kind of practice other than the V.A.W.A, duties. COMMISSIONER LETZ: What is V.A.W.A.? JUDGE TINLEY: Violence against women. MR. EMERSON: I don't recall seeing that in the grant. Now, the V.A.W.A. grant's obviously written as a full-time position, but I don't recall seeing anything in the grant prohibiting them from performing some other function. I 5-'2-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2L 23 24 25 ~s just have to look at the grant. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. well, I note there that there's -- the Supreme Court dues for the V.A.W.A. prosecutor are included here, so the obvious reason for my question is, if there's a requirement that that individual be licensed, and if there's a further requirement that that individual's only job performance in a legal nature can be performed as that prosecutor, it certainly would be appropriate. If there's anything to be done outside, maybe not. MR. EMERSON: All I can say is, I don't know of -- of her doing anything outside. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. MR. EMERSON: I don't know what the restriction in the actual grant wording is. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. MR. TOMLINSON: These amounts to the -- to the prosecutor's office -- JUDGE TINLEY: Hmm? ~ MR. TOMLINSON: These amounts payable to the I prosecutor's office are as our cash -- part of our cash match for that. JUDGE TINLEY: The payment of the State Bar dues payable to the Supreme Court is part of our cash match? MR. TOMLINSON: No. No, the $3,666. JUDGE TINLEY: That's not what I'm talking about. _~-22-u~ 76 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ]4 15 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 I'm talking about the next entry. MR. TOMLINSON: Just for information, that's what -- that's what that's for, is for the cash match for this grant. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You know, let's stay on that just for a second. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: For the last 180 years that I know of, we've argued this point of the public paying our -- our memberships and our dues to be a part of the -- like our association. But you, as an attorney, I've always felt like that the public shouldn't be paying any of your dues to -- to keep your memberships going, your license going, you know, those kinds of things. I can -- you know, to me -- to me, that's a little bit different. And we -- JUDGE TINLEY: Well, I agree. I agree. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We've argued that a hundred times here. JUDGE TINLEY: Where -- Commissioner, where I see it, if -- if the position requires one to be a licensed attorney, and the position prohibits any activity in the legal sense outside of the elected or appointed position held, I -- I can see where it would be appropriate for the dues in this instance to be paid. If, however, number one, the position is not required to be a licensed attorney, or there's an opportunity for that individual who is licensed to have some s-??-o6 77 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 outside pursuit, then I don't think it should. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. JUDGE TINLEY: In my case, for instance, I -- my position does not require me to be a licensed attorney, so that -- that answers the question right there. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What about the situation, Judge, where the Bar Association dues are paid, and it falls in the category you're talking about where it's -- it's an elected judicial position? JUDGE TINLEY: If it's a full-time and there's a requirement of -- of -- that the individual be licensed, and there's no outside ability -- ability to do any outside work, I'd say it's appropriate. For example, the District Judges, Judge Brown, the County Attorney. He's under a position which prohibits outside practice, and he's required to be a licensed attorney, so it's appropriate under those circumstances; as I see it, on all of those circumstances. In mine, it's not. I pay my own. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I can't even go quite that far, actually. If you want to be an attorney, be an attorney. If you don't want to be a District Judge, don't be a District Judge. Don't expect -- it's like, you know, if there was some kind of licensing for -- and there kind of ~s, and the public pays for it -- for Commissioners, if there was a Licensing type thing, I choose to be a Commissioner and I need to pay s-zz-oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 L1 22 23 29 25 78 for my own license. I shouldn't expect the taxpayers to pay for my license, It's just -- it's just the way I see it. It's not -- I'm tired of arguing the thing. It's just -- 'cause I've never won it. (Laughter.) COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Doesn't look like you're going to today. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, I'm not going to today. Didn't expect to. I just -- you know, it's just a hell of a good fight. If you want to get into one, there's a good one. JUDGE TINLEY: Had a few extra minutes, so you thought you'd throw it out again, huh? Okay. Anything else? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's go to Budget Amendment Request Number 1. MR. TOMLINSON: Budget Amendment 1 was approved by the County Clerk to transfer $98.29 in the Elections Department from Ballot Expense to Election Supplies. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 1. Any question or 5-2'-06 79 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 2. MR. TOMLINSON: I'm requesting a transfer of $115 from the Telephone Access Fees in Nondepartmental to Liability Insurance. It's for coverage for the new D.P. equipment in relation to the new software. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I move it. JUDGE TINLEY: One of you. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I did. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 2. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget -~_-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 80 Amendment Request Number 3. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 3 is for Indigent Health Care. I have late bills attached to this. We need to transfer $618.75 from Eligible Expenses to Third-Party Administration line item. I have a bill -- the hand checks that I need are actually two to VeriClaims, Inc.; one for 5499.60, and the other one is for $119.15. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What is the time frame -- I mean, what -- maybe I can -- if I can think just a second, I'll get to my real question. We did this just a month or so ago, VeriClaims. You know, is this -- is this a regular thing? Why don't we know how much they're going to charge us? MR. TOMLINSON: It's based on the eligible expenses that we pay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: So we're spending more on indigent health than we budgeted; therefore, we're going to be spending more on VeriClaims. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN; So -- well, when we set the budget on what we think we're going to spend on indigent II health care, we set the budget on what VeriClaims is going to I i get? MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. It's 4 and a half percent. JUDGE TINLEY: Four and a half. 5-_'2-06 81 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. TOMLINSON: Four and a half percent of eligible ~ expenses. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is one of those areas that we contract out or send out -- MR. TOMLINSON: Right. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- for third party. Is this a good thing? MR. TOMLINSON: Well, we're currently looking at other ways to do it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, okay. MR. TOMLINSON: We're -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Cost less? MR. TOMLINSON: I think that, you know, we're -- we've seen evidence that there's -- there's a better way, and so we're exploring that -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. MR. TOMLINSON: -- possibility. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I want to ask a question, though, Tommy. If I'm looking at the budget and the budget balances, I'm seeing that we've already spent through May, or almost through May, $601,000. Is that correct? MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, my question is, is the 134 going to carry us for the next -- June, July, August, September -- four months? s-za-o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 82 MR. TOMLINSON: Probably not. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Probably not. MR. TUMLINSON: How -- it's the 8 percent rule. Actually, it ends in August, because of the State's -- the State's fiscal year ends in August. So, we -- the 8 percent rule, we -- well, we anticipate that we will not be beyond the 8 percent in August, so we think that the 134 will last us through that period. It'll be really close, but -- but I don't -- the person at VeriClaims -- the principals at VeriClaims, they were here about two weeks ago, and we -- we projected what we thought our -- our claims would be through August, and we don't feel like that we'll be there. So, as far as trying to obtain any -- any help from the State, I don't think that's in the forecast. JUDGE TINLEX: What is the 8 percent? What is that -- how much? MR. TOMLINSON: It's approximately -- JUDGE TINLEY: As against us? MR. TOMLINSON: It's approximately 800,000. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. So -- MR. TOMLINSON: Actually, it's 8 percent of your general tax levy, and that -- that tax levy is not only the ad valorem tax, but it's the sales tax that we -- we collect for the previous year. And, so, when you attach the 8 percent to the ad valorem tax plus the sales tax, it's a substantial s-zz-oc 83 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 amount. JUDGE TINLEY: And your -- your ballpark calculation is approximately 800,000? That's in eligible claims? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But we have to spend that before we go to the State fox any reimbursement? MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: And their budget year ends at the end of August, so that means school's out, doesn't it? MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. And you also have to wonder if the State has any money at that time, too. JUDGE TINLEY: That's a pro rata fund that you're sharing in, if I'm not mistaken. MR. TOMLINSON: That's correct, yes. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval, COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 3, and issuance of hand checks -- approval of late bills and issuance of hand checks to VeriClaims for $499.60, and $119.15. Any question or discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (NO response.) 5- „_n5 84 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move tc Budget Amendment Request Number 4. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 4 is for County Court at Law, approved by Judge Brown to transfer $5,074.05 from Court-Appointed Attorney line item to the Master Court Appointment line item. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. But what does that mean? JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded. MR. TOMLINSON: Well, the Master Court Appointment line item is -- is there for the purpose of -- of paying attorneys to represent juveniles in the -- no. No, it's -- JUDGE TINLEY: Parents. MR. TOMLINSON: -- parents in C.P.S. cases. COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is that new unfunded mandate. JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- MR. TOMLINSON: We established this Master Court Appointment line item to try to address that for this budget year. So, it's turned out to be as bad as we anticipated. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Actually worse. MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. s ~-05 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 85 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, yeah, our new unfunded mandate from our State Legislature so far has cost the taxpayers $40,000 this year. JUDGE TINLEY: Judge Brown had -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Just one. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, this is one unfunded I mandate. JUDGE TINLEY: Judge Brown had indicated a concern that maybe there were a disproportionate number of cases or dollar volume of attorney's fees that were being charged to his Master Court Appointments-slash-civil budget. Is -- tell me if that's a valid concern, or whether or not all these cases are just being dropped in his lap. MR. TOMLINSON: Well, my -- I understand that when those cases are filed, they're -- they're allocated by the District Clerk's office. JUDGE TINLEY: Random filing? MR. TOMLINSON: At random filing. And, so, it just depends on who's next, I think, in line. And I'm assuming that they share equally. That's really a District Clerk question. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, the County Judge -- County Court at Law Judge needs to visit with the District Clerk. JUDGE TINLEY: Well, he may just be getting a bad luck draw here, is what it looks like. s-zz-oF 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 ]5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 86 MR. TOMLINSON: That's what I -- Ili JUDGE TINLEY: 'Cause their accounts are still III pretty -- pretty flush, and his is down the tubes. I MR. TOMLINSON: Right. JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah. All in -- any other question or comments upon that motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: Motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 5. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 5 is for 216th District Court, and we're requesting a transfer of $10,200.88 from the Civil Court-Appointed Attorney line item, the one we just talked about, and $1,053.40 from Special Trials, with 11,179.28 to the Court-Appointed Attorney line item and $75 for Special Court Reporter. This -- and this amendment represents, I think, 71 different -- different invoices. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 5. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. s-2z-o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 87 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: Motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 6. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 6 is for the 198th District Court. We have a need to transfer 13,449.95 out of Special Trials, with 5,637.14 to Court-Appointed Services and 7,812.81 into Court-Appointed Attorney line item. Actually, this represents only one case. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. JUDGE TINLEY: One of you second. MS. THOMPSON: We just have a motion. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I moved. JUDGE TINLEY: Second? (Commissioner Williams raised his hand.} JUDGE TINLEY: Any question or discussion on the motion? i COMMISSIONER LETZ: On your education platform, I! Commissioner Baldwin, we need to educate the public how much i the judicial system of indigents cost this county as well. ~I JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah, those special trial line items I II that weren't utilized are fast being eaten up. I I COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Sounds that way. 5-zz-o6 88 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUDGE TINLEY: And the Court-appointed attorneys, Court-appointed services, they've long since been eaten up. Any other questions or comments? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 7. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 7 is for the County Jail. This is approved by the Sheriff to transfer $730.11 from Software Maintenance to Vehicle Maintenance. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number ~. Any question or discussion? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a quick question, Tommy. Software maintenance is going to be low throughout the county because of the new program, correct? MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. They -- we've actually paid only for approximately half a year, so the -- for the rest of the year, we will not be paying any more software maintenance. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mentioned last time, I mean, that's quickly being used as the slush fund for 2005-2006. s-2z o6 89 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 What's the chance -- what's the thought of the Court of moving all that money out of there, if we're not going to pay it, into one line item so it's not used as much, maybe? I guess you have to -- I mean, if people have to use it, they have to use it. But it just seems that as soon as we end up with a line item that has money in it, we start using it. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, if you got money left over at the end of the year, you need to spend it so it doesn't affect your next year's budget. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That seems to be the prevailing mentality. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just an observation. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I agree with you. MR. TOMLINSON: Well, it is an item that we need to remember when we do budget, but for, I think, some of the software, we -- we don't have any maintenance for a year, so we need to look at -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: You need to look pretty carefully at that. MR. TOMLINSON: -- carefully at our maintenance budget. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mr. Trolinger, are you hearing that? SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: He left. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, he left. s-.'z o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 90 MR. TOMLINSON: John, he's well aware of -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. MR. TOMLINSON; -- which ones we have to deal with. JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Baldwin, there's always the question, what would the Dixie Chicks do? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What would the Dixie Chicks do at a time like this? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Spend it, probably. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, they'd spend ~t. JUDGE TINLEY: Any other question or comments? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. ~ (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget I Amendment Request Number 8. I i MR. TOMLINSON; Okay. Number 8 is -- was approved by the Chief to transfer $203.90 from Attorney Ad Litem Fees to Transportation of Juveniles. COMMISSIONER LETZ: This -- this wasn't done -- oh, this is Juvenile Probation, nevermind. I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. But my question is, whose signature is that? MR. TOMLINSON; Jesse's. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Jesse Herrera? Okay. -_~-oE 91 1 2 3 9 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 8. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: A11 opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 9. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 9 is for Juvenile Detention. We have a need to transfer $311.08 from Detention Officers' Salaries to Residential Medical Expenses. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This -- would this be one that would be reimbursable back to the County? Or is it for one of our own kids? JUDGE TINLEY: It's reimbursable either way. It's just a question of whether it's a fresh pot or not a fresh pot. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. So moved. MR. TOMLINSON: I don't -- I can't tell by the name. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 9. Any question or s-z' oh 92 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2Z 23 24 25 discussion? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. Question is, how does this go with the -- the big blanket change we made this morning for Juvenile Detention Facility? I mean, we changed all these line items today, correct? I MR. TOMLINSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Under this? MR. TOMLINSON: Right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, are we amending this, or is I this -- MR. TOMLINSON: This is separate from that. COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's under here, though. Resident Medical is on -- on this one, isn't it? MR. TOMLINSON : It should be. COMMISSIONER LETZ: I see Resident Medical, 572 -333. 572-333. Yeah, I mean, Resident Medical is on here. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: How much is in the pot? COMMISSIONER LETZ: The revised should be 25,1. I guess I' m looking at -- we just revised it down this morn ing so we ca n amend it this afternoon. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is there enough in the pot to avoid this? COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before we changed it this morning, there was 22,547 in that line item. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What's left? 5-'2-06 1 G 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 93 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Now there's 25,183. MR. TOMLINSON: The budget balance, though, is zero. I mean, the original budget, what's left is zero. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, I see that. There was a negative balance on that one, okay. JUDGE TTNLEY: Any other questions or comments? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 10. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 10 is for Detention Maintenance. We need to transfer $1,341.98 from the Detention Facility budget out of Detention Officer line item, with $651.19 to Maintenance and Custodial, and $690.79 in Detention Repairs. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: On the Maintenance and Custodial, was that just to take us up to now? Or does that carry us through in that particular line item? Just current expense? MR. TOMLINSON: That's just current expenses. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. So moved. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval 5-22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 94 of Budget Amendment Request Number 10. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 11. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 11 is for Aq Extension. They have requested transfers of $2,000 from the Extension Agents' Salaries and $600 from Operating Equipment, to move 51,000 of that into the Agents' Travel line item, $1,000 into Reimbursed Travel, and $600 into Repairs and Maintenance. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Repairs and Maintenance, I was told, has to do with the splash area behind the sinks. MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS; Of the public room. Is that right? i MR. TOMLINSON: That's correct. i COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay. And the other part of I II that, if I understood correctly, has to do with the fact that fuel expenses have eaten them alive. MR. TOMLINSON: That's correct. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Unanticipated fuel expenses. MR. TOMLINSON: That's right. s-za-o6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 L 5 95 JUDGE TINLEY: Is that also in part as kind of a setup for the new F.C.S. agent coming on board, to make some allowance for' her expenses, maybe? MR. TOMLINSON: I didn't -- I don't think so. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That wasn't represented ~ by -- MR. TOMLINSON: I don't think so. I think it's just for additional fuel costs. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah, basically for himself and for Laurinda Boyd. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, you're talking about -- you're talking about $1,000 for them to travel on in the future. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, obviously, another $1,000 that they've already -- what -- where are they traveling? This is non-stock show time. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I can't answer specifically. i He just said there are several things that are still left on their calendar to go to and participate in which involve not I only transportation, but overnight expenses as well. So, I didn't press him for what they were. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The travel -- I mean, the travel -- I mean, overnight kind of throws me, unless there's some 5-22-06 96 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 kind of -- some of the 4-H competitions could still be going on, but I think most of it -- COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, all that's -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- is over at the end of the school year. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We`ve already done the state championship stuff. COMMISSIONER LETZ: The travel, I can see that, 'cause, I mean, I -- we don't have extension vehicles, do we? COMM7SSIONER WILLIAMS: No. JUDGE TINLEY: No. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So the travel around the county ~ would be -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Reimbursable. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just wondered. If you don't have a motion, I'd like to make one. JUDGE TINLEY: I don't think I have one. MS. THOMPSON: You don't have one. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we pay our bills. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Does that include Budget Amendment Request Number 11, bills that might be due under that? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. I have a motion for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 11. Any question or s z.-oe 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 97 discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 12. MR. TOMLINSON: Number 12 is for Road and Bridge. They requested a transfer of $372.20 from -- from Right-of-Way Surveying into Notices. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 12. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) I ~ JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Budget Amendment Request Number 13. MR. TOMLINSON: 13 is a request from the District Clerk to transfer 2,273.64 from the Deputy Clerk Salary line item into Overtime. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So moved. s >?-oE 98 1 L 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is there a reason? MR. TOMLINSON: She lost her chief deputy, and there was also that the -- they were -- the conversion of the new software. So, between those situations -- COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it was a -- there was an opening that necessitated the overtime? Okay, second. JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval of Budget Amendment Request Number 13. Any question or discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) DODGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Do we have any more budget amendments? MR. TOMLINSON: No. JUDGE TINLEY: Do we have any late bills, other than as indicated? MR. TOMLINSON: No. DODGE TINLEY: There is not. I have -- I've been presented with monthly reports from the Justice of the Peace, Precinct 3; County Clerk, General Fund; Justice of the Peace, Precinct 1; Justice of the Peace Court, Precinct 2 for April 2006; County Clerk, Trust Fund; and Road and Bridge Department. Do I hear a motion that these reports be approved 5-22-06 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 99 II as presented? I COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. III COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. III DODGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for approval II of the indicated reports as presented. Any question or II discussion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising i your right hand. (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. (No response.) JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Any member of the Court have anything to offer in connection with their committee or liaison assignments or otherwise with regard to matters that need to come to the Court's attention? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I want to ask Commissioner Williams if he would like to report to the Court about the -- the function that he's performing for the County in regards to those duties out of the Treasurer's office, maybe getting them outside -- COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You haven't even given me the number of the guy to call. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Damn, it's hard to get good help these days. I was just wondering maybe if you had something to tell us. We had a break. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. I will tell you, I'm s-z^_-o6 1 r 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 "` 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 A.. 2 4 25 100 still waiting on the number. I would like to just bring the Court up to date for just a second on the contract -- the Court's approved the draft contract for engineering services recommendation to approve the scope of work, and all that stuff was taken to the board meeting on Tuesday, So, I'm waiting for a final document for the County Judge to sign, in which case we'll release the scope of work for publication, solicit proposals. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Somewhat related to that, the Court -- unfortunately, one of my days of not feeling well last week, I was unable to go to Austin, but the Region J plan was presented to the Water Development Board. And normally, I would have presented that plan to the Water Development Board for final approval, and I sent a written comment to them, and the board -- the plan was approved. But the interesting part of that was that the -- several -- one thing they were interested in are the complaints that I've had all along about the population projections, which go into the demand side, and there was some discussion on the board about that. But the other item was from staff; there was a very positive feedback to me about the Center Point Wastewater Project going forward, and the Water Development Board is -- is truly behind that, and I think that's very good news for the county. That's the ~_„_oy 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 29 25 101 type of project they really are looking at. It fits in with the regional water plan; very important to them for funding, so I think that was all good news, that they're -- that seems to be working. The other item I had was -- I don't know if I need to put it on the agenda, or if we can just discuss it, but I'm bringing it up here. Budget's right around the corner, and I would like to look a little bit -- you know, I don't want to step on the Judge's toes. Traditionally, when the budget's been presented, we've had -- this has been this way ever since I've been a Commissioner; salaries are taken off the table. We kind of do all this figuring out until -- and at the last minute, salaries are brought in, and I think that's one of the reasons we've had a lot of problems, and I'd like the salaries brought in right at the beginning. I see no point in keeping salaries -- we have somewhat of a formula as to how we're going to do cost-of-living adjustments, COLA's. When I first got on the Court, it was a little bit arbitrary. Now we're tying it to an index. That index is available. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Published just a couple days ago. COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, I'd like to see the budget presented as a -- as a formal -- as a final budget. Obviously, we're not going to know the revenue picture maybe till after the budget's presented, but the proposal -- anyway, 5-~~-06 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 I9 20 21 22 23 24 25 102 item in our budget until after sometime -- we get into August. So, I don't know if we need to put it on the agenda, or if we need to have a workshop. It's just kind of an idea on how to -- you know, budget's right around the corner. We need to start looking at schedules and all that stuff. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't disagree with what you're saying, because we do, in fact, put a king's "X" on a huge item. But are you suggesting that elected officials/department heads crank in a COLA adjustment for the max of what may have been published by U.S. Department of Labor and Statistics, which right now is published at about 3.5 percent? Or something less, or what? COMMISSIONER LET2: I think we need to have it on our next agenda. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think you're right. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Figure out how to do this. Also, I think we need to set the budget workshop -- the workshops and get an idea as to where we are. And I think we need to bring up a feedback from the library and the airport. The airport is -- will be challenging, I think, this year for the Airport Board, and I think that -- you know, we'll discuss that a little bit more. But the preference is to do it as a 5-22-05 ]03 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1H 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 workshop item in the afternoon, or as an agenda item? Or does it make any difference? JUDGE TINLEY: I don't suppose it makes any difference. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. JUDGE TINLEY: Up front, it's not gong to be -- it's not going to be finalized, so I would think a workshop would be adequate. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think some -- let's get some guidance from a discussion. COMMISSIONER LETZ: Have a discussion a little bit. We do that pretty much this time of year, discuss kind of where we're going with the budget, how the process goes for the year. Okay, that's all I had. JUDGE TINLEY: Kind oĢ following up on what you mentioned, Commissioner, with regard to the library, I -- I received, end of last week, a notification that the -- the Library Advisory Board had, quote, unanimously approved by those present the draft budget as submitted by the Library Director. I received that notification, but the budget itse]f was not attached. I don't presume either one of -- any of y'all got a copy of that? I'm thinking that you probably didn't. I've passed along a note to our admin to ask that we get a copy of that, so we might take a look at it and see where we are there. I think I'd be interested in seeing it 5--`-„G 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 104 before that train gets too far down the track. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think the same applies, Judge, to emergency -- EMS. Are we going to be confronted with another major increase in that service line item? Do you know yet? ~ COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm not willing to talk about it in here, but pretty soon, you will start hearing about it. Speaking of that, I wanted to let everybody who may have seen I it in the newspaper about KPUB donating the defibrillators to the -- basically, to the First Responders group, and I can't remember how many there were; 8 or 10 or something. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 11 or 12. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 11 or 12, something like that. And those things -- they're making them so simple now that one of those may end up in the courthouse, by the way. They'd like to see one come into the courthouse and be stationed somewhere. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Be for us, if we had a heart attack. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: During budget time. COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: For the budget process. We could probably hang it from the lamp or up on the wall here somewhere. But I thought that was just kind of neat. This -- I think this is the third year in a row KPUB has made that s-zz-o6 1 L 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 105 donation, and that is a neat, neat donation. JUDGE TINLEY: Is that a cooperative project between KPUB and L.C.R.A.? Or ~s it KPUB only? COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, I think it's KPUB. JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I think it is, too, KPUB. COMMISSIONER $ALDWIN: Pretty neat. Pretty neat deal. JUDGE TINLEY: Any other member of the Court have anything to offer? Any elected officials have anything they II wish to offer this morning? Anything else? Going once, twice. We stand adjourned. I (Commissioners Court adjourned at 11:31 a.m.) s-zz-oe 106 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 19 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 STATE OF TEXAS COUNTY OF KERR The above and foregoing is a true and complete transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 25th day of May, 2006. JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk BY: __ __ y ____ ____ _ Kathy B nik, Deputy County Clerk Certified Shorthand Reporter 5-2^-06 ORDER NO.29691 PRELIMINARY PLAT OF LIVE SPRINGS RANCH, PCT. 4 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the Preliminary Plat of Live Springs Ranch, Pct. 4 ORDER NO.29692 TEXAS COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE TO FILL COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT-FAMILY & CONSUMER SCIENCES POSITION FOR KERR COUNTY WITH APPOINTMENT OF JODY OSTEEN Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the appointment of Jody Osteen as the County Extension Agent- Family & Consumer Sciences position effective July 15, 2006. ORDER NO. 29693 REQUEST ANNEXATION OF IDENTIFIED AIRPORT PROPERTY INTO KERRVILLE CITY LIMITS Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the request of annexation of identified airport property into the Kerrville City Limits. ORDER NO. 29694 DISCUSS MODIFIED OS-06 KCJF COUNTY BUDGET Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve revised budget as presented. ORDER NO. 29695 EXTEND KCJF COMP TIME POLICY Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Extend the time to allow the comp time to be taken care of, or reduced, out of the Kerr County Juvenile Detention Facility until August 31, 2006. ORDER NO.29696 DISCUSS TEXAS VINE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE GRANT CONTRACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the extension of the VINE Grant application. ORDER NO. 29697 CORRECT COURT ORDER #29671 TO CREEKWOOD V, INSTEAD OF CREEKWOOD II, PCT 2 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the amendment of Court Order #29671 to read Creekwood V, Vol 7, Page 160. ORDER NO. 29698 PRELIMINARY PLAT OF RANGER PARK, PCT. 2 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the Preliminary Plat of Ranger Park, located in Pct. 2. ORDER NO. 29699 PRELIMINARY PLAT OF LASSO RANCH, PCT. 3 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the Preliminary Plat of Lasso Ranch, located in Pct. 3. ORDER NO. 29700 SET PUBLIC HEARING FOR REVISION OF PLAT OF LOTS 13 & 14 OF CYPRESS SPRINGS, PHASE I, VOL 7, PAGE 12, PCT. 4 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Set a Public Hearing for June 26, 2006 at 10:00 a.m. for the Revision of Plat of Lots 13 & 14 of Cypress Springs, Phase I, Vol 7, Page 12, located in Pct. 4. ORDER NO.29701 AWARD BID FOR TOWN CREEK IMPROVEMENTS, PCT 1 & 3 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Letz. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Award bid on the Town Creek Improvements to Allen Keller & Company in accordance with the recommendation of the Consulting Engineer and Mr. Odom, and authorize County Judge to sign the Notice of Award. ORDER NO. 29702 FINAL PLAT OF 707 RANCH, PCT. 4 Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to: Approve the Final Plat of 707 Ranch, Pct. 4. ORDER NO. 29703 CLAIMS AND ACCOUNTS Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, came to be considered by the Court various Commissioners Precincts, which said Claims and Accounts are: Accounts Expense 10-General $ 143,653.05 15-Road & Bridge $ 32,184.36 18-County Law Library $ 3,206.99 26-JP Technology $ 158.00 50-Indigent Health Care $ 13,750.25 76-Juv Detention Facility $ 9,714.21 TOTAL $ 202,666.86 Upon motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to pay the claims and accounts. ORDER NO. 29704 BUDGET AMENDMENT ELECTION SERVICES Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description Amendment Increase/QDecrease 10-402-330 Election Supplies + $98.29 10-402-210 Ballot Expense - ($98.29) ORDER NO.29705 BUDGET AMENDMENT NON-DEPARTMENTAL Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-409-205 Insurance Liability Amendment Increase/()Decrease + $115.00 10-409-421 Telephone Access Fees - ($115.00) ORDER NO.29706 BUDGET AMENDMENT LATE BILL INDIGENT HEALTH CARE Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes and issue hand checks in the amounts of $$499.60 & $119.15 to Vericlaims, Inc. for May 10, 2006 and May 11, 2006 Fee on Paid Claims. Expense Code Description 50-641-486 Third Party Administration Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $618.75 50-641-200 Eligible Expense - ($618.75) ORDER NO.29707 BUDGET AMENDMENT COUNTY COURT @ LAW Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-427-403 Master Court Appointment Amendment Increase/()Decrease + $5,074.05 10-427-402 Court Appointed Attorney - ($5,074.05) ORDER NO. 29708 BUDGET AMENDMENT 216TH DISTRICT COURT Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Amendment Expense Code Description Increase/()Decrease ._ 10--435-402 Court Appointed Attorney + $11,179.28 10-435-494 Special Court Reporter + $75.00 10-435-417 Special Trials - ($1,053.40) 10-435-403 Civil Court Appointed Atty - ($10,200.88) ORDER NO. 29709 BUDGET AMENDMENT 198TH DISTRICT COURT Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-436-401 Court Appt'd Services 10-436-402 Court Appointed Attorney 10-436-417 Special Trials Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $5,637.14 + $7,812.81 - ($13,449.95) ORDER NO.29710 BUDGET AMENDMENT COUNTY JAIL Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-512-454 Vehicle Maintenance 10-512-563 Software Maintenance Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $730.11 - ($730.11) ORDER NO. 29711 BUDGET AMENDMENT JUVENILE PROBATION Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-570-335 Transportation of Juveniles Amendment Increase/()Decrease + $203.90 10-570-402 Attorney Ad Litem Fees - ($203.90) ORDER NO.29712 BUDGET AMENDMENT JUVENILE DETENTION Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioners Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 76-572-333 Resident Medical 76-572-104 Detention Officers Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $311.08 - ($311.08) ORDER NO.29713 BUDGET AMENDMENT DETENTION MAINTENANCE Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioners Letz, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-515-350 maintenance 8 Custodial 10-515-451 Detention Repairs 76-572-104 Detention Officers Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $651.19 + $690.79 - ($1,341.98) ORDER NO. 29714 BUDGET AMENDMENT AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION SERVICE Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioners Letz, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-665-426 Agent Travel 10-665-428 Reimbursed Travel *10-665-450 Repairs & Maintenance 10-665-102 Extension Agent Salaries 10-665-569 Operating Equipment Amendment Increase/QDecrease + $1,000.00 + $1,000.00 + $600.00 - ($2,000.00) - ($600.00) *-ESTABLISH NEW EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM. ORDER NO.29715 BUDGET AMENDMENT R&B ADMINISTRATION R&B Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioners Williams, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 15-600-430 Notices + 15-611-557 ROW Survey & Engineering - Amendment Increase/QDecrease $372.20 ($372.20) ORDER NO. 29716 BUDGET AMENDMENT DISTRICT CLERK Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioners Letz, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 to transfer the following expense codes: Expense Code Description 10-450-112 Overtime 10-450-104 Deputy Clerk Salary Amendment Increase/()Decrease + $2,273.64 - ($2,273.64) ORDER NO. 29717 MONTHLY REPORTS Came to be heard this the 22nd day of May, 2006, with a motion made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by vote of 3-0-0 the following monthly reports: JP #3 County Clerk -General Fund JP # 1 Justice of the Peace Court -Pct 2 for April, 2006 County Clerk -Trust Road & Bridge Department