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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Special Session
Friday, May 18, 2007
9:00 a.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas
PRESENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge
H A."BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2
JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
BRUCE OEHLER, Commissioner Pct. 4
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	I N D E X	
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1.1	Consider/discuss, take appropriate actions	
	to canvass the special Constitutional Amendment	
	election	3
1.2	Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on	
	nomination or recommendation of Kerrville-Kerr	
	County Joint Airport Board that Frederick Vogt	
	be appointed as a member of that board	4
1.3	Consider/discuss, take appropriate action	
	regarding reassignment of an existing Ag Barn	
	employee's duties to include work schedule,	
	work location, and consider appropriate salary	
	related to new duties (Executive Session)	9
3.1	Action as may be required on matters discussed	
	in executive session	10
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On Friday, May 18, 2007, at 9:00, a special meeting of
the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in the
JUDGE TINLEY: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
It is that time
Constitutional Amendment election. I have been provided with
general election held May 12, 2007. On the Constitutional
Amendment Proposition 1 of 1, the early voting, for -- for the
proposition, 1,054; against, 53. The results of the ballots
cast on election day: For the proposition, 802 votes;
against, 80 votes. The total cast for Proposition 1: For,
1,856 votes, or 93.31 percent; against, 133 votes,
6.69 percent. Apparently, there was one over-vote and three
under-votes cast in that election. I guess it would be in
order for -- here's copies for everybody, it appears; I'm
sorry. In order for there to be a motion that the results of
the May 12th, 2007 general election be canvassed and
officially approved.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded as
indicated. Any question or discussion on the motion? All in
favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Let's move
to the next item on the agenda. Consider, discuss, and take
appropriate action on the nomination or recommendation of
Kerrville/Kerr County Joint Airport Board that Frederick Vogt
be appointed as a member of that board. I put this on the
agenda so that the matter could be considered earlier than our
next regular meeting, and I'll turn it to either Commissioner
Williams or Commissioner Letz, whomever wishes to pick up the
ball and run with it at this point.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Judge, I put the -- Mr.
Vogt's application and his qualifications in support of his
appointment in front of the Court this morning. Let's see if
I could take just a moment to digest just exactly what it is
that the candidate we're recommending has been involved in
most of his life before he got to Kerr County -- Kerrville.
And his -- his qualifications are, indeed, overwhelming in
terms of his accomplishments throughout his -- essentially,
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his military career. Mr. Vogt is in the audience this
morning, and I would ask him to step to the podium, if you
could, and so we would have an opportunity to meet him, and
any questions that you might have before we put the question
to the Court.
MR. VOGT: Morning, Your Honor.
JUDGE TINLEY: Good morning, sir. Pleasure to have
you with us this morning. When did you come to the Kerrville
area?
MR. VOGT: The end of July, last week of July.
Middle of the heat wave.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MR. VOGT: Came to Kerrville, actually moved to
Tierra Linda. That's my home of residence right now.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MR. VOGT: We bought the home over a year ago,
though.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Any members of the Court have
any questions or discussion they'd like to engage in with Mr.
Vogt?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The only comment I'll make is
just that, you know, the only controversial possible negative
that I've ever heard about this candidate is that he lives in
Gillespie County, in Tierra Linda. The Airport Board is
not -- I don't think it's a significant issue. Clearly,
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he's -- he's involved in the community. He goes to church in
Kerrville, he shops in Kerrville, buys in Kerrville, and I
think we support the Tierra Linda Volunteer Fire Department.
I mean, it happens to be across the county line, but that's an
irrelevant reason, in my mind, not to support him. I think
he's by far qualified, and will do hopefully a great job. I
think he will.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'd like to add to that, you
know, we hear all levels of government talk about regional,
and I see that Mr. Vogt being -- living in another county just
enhances the regional type thinking. I mean, it's not a big
deal at all. I can't believe that that was a debate in any
way.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I agree with you. You know,
I think the qualifications that Mr. Vogt brings, if you take a
look at it carefully, not only was he a consultant in the
aviation business, but he was a director of aeronautics for
the Tennessee Department of Transportation. That's the
equivalent job as -- as Dave -- what's his name?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Fulton.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Fulton holds here in the
state of Texas, and we've had Mr. Fulton at our airport many,
many times, and he has been very, very supportive of
Kerrville's -- Kerr County's efforts to improve the airport.
Any comments you want to make to us?
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MR. VOGT: No. I certainly appreciate you
considering this appointment. It's irrelevant to me also. I
spend most of my time in Kerrville and Kerr County. I -- as a
matter of fact, I -- most people that live in Tierra Linda
think they're in Kerrville anyway. So, I've had a wide
experience in aviation, and I, too, when I was Director of
Aeronautics in Tennessee, dealt with it on a regional basis.
This is a gem of an airport. It's well managed. It's --
being a joint airport with Kerrville and Kerr County, it's
exactly where you want it to be. I'm just hoping that I can
add to that in this three years that -- if I'm appointed, I'll
add to that. I promise you that, and be very aggressive in
what I do. And I -- and I think with my background, I'll -- I
know what questions to ask and I know who to call. And I
appreciate your consideration.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'd move the appointment of
Mr. Vogt as Kerr County's appointment to the Airport Board.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded as
indicated. Any question or discussion?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a quick -- I was thinking
as a -- as to how you phrased that. I wonder if that's
correct.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, rephrase it for me,
Commissioner. The words got stuck on the way out or
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we're' approving the
nomination of the --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- Airport Board for the term as
currently held by Dr. John Davis, and he will be -- he's
coming off the board; didn't reapply. That will be in -- I
think the 1st of June is when it actually will be effective.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you for that
clarification.
JUDGE TINLEY: That was your motion, wasn't it?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Exactly. I would have said
it if my tongue hadn't got tied up.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any question or discussion? I think
there's no question but what the credentials and -- and the
experience that this gentleman has are just overwhelming and
extensive for anything related to aviation. It's just beyond
my comprehension why anybody wouldn't want to take advantage
of his willingness to serve in any capacity related to
aviation and get the benefit of all that experience and
expertise. Any further question or comment?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I'd just like to say that we
always look forward to taking advantage of the experience and
knowledge of some of the people that tend to move here and
retire here, and I really, really look forward to having him
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on the Airport Board.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I want to add one
thing. It -- it's not as important to me if the man even
knows what an airplane is, but he said the two magical things.
"I know what questions to ask, and I know who to call."
That's the two most important things in government.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(NO response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Thank you,
Mr. Vogt, for being here, --
MR. VOGT: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- being with us today. We wish you
the best. We'll now move to Item 3; consider, discuss, and
take appropriate action regarding reassignment of an existing
Ag Barn employee's duties to include work schedule, work
location, and consider appropriate salary related to new
duties. This was a holdover item from -- from our Monday
agenda. And, initially, I would ask if there is any
discussion or anything to be offered in the open or public
portion of the meeting concerning this agenda item before we
possibly move to executive or closed session.
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COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No.
JUDGE TINLEY: At this time, 9:12 a.m., we will go
out of public or open session to go into executive or closed
session.
(The open session was closed at 9:12 a.m., and an
executive session was held, the transcript of which
is contained in a separate document.)
JUDGE TINLEY: We're back in open or public session
at 10:45 a.m. Does any member of the Court have anything to
offer with respect to matters that were under discussion in
executive session?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, sir, I'll try to make a
stab at it. I'll make a motion that we reassign Alyce
Davidson to the Extension Office, where she'll be at a 14-3
level. That will -- that position will be -- 80 percent of
her time we expect to be with Extension; 20 percent of her
time will be at booking, or doing the booking for the Ag Barn
still. And for that work, a monthly stipend of $200.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I second the motion.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Booking for Ag Barn and
Union Church.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And Union Church. And -- and
the -- and, as working for Extension, Alyce will report to Roy
Walston as her supervisor.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second the motion.
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JUDGE TINLEY: I have a motion and second. Any
question or discussion on that motion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Do we have
any further business, gentlemen?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, let me ask you a
question now. What about clarity on the understanding with
everybody about who is in charge of the Ag Barn now?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Those two gentlemen are
going to take care of that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I think that'll be -- we can
make that designation in the next meeting, and between the
three of us -- well, not the three of us at the same time.
That would be an illegal meeting. (Laughter.) But we can --
JUDGE TINLEY: I've got Maintenance, they got the Ag
Barn, and we'll get that coordinated.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. I just think it needs
to be --
JUDGE TINLEY: Sure.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- clear.
MS. DAVIDSON: I need to know. I mean, do I still
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try to get someone to work after hours? What do we do? Just
leave y'all alone?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, we'll -- and we're going
to -- hopefully Roy's in his office today, and we'll go out
there and visit with him, and then we can all meet, have you
and Bruce and Roy sit down and make it real clear as to how
we're envisioning this working. You need to be in on that
discussion, obviously.
MS. DAVIDSON: Sure.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I believe the after-hours work
will be designated probably by Tim at the present time.
MS. DAVIDSON: Correct.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: And I would -- I would think
that you would report to Roy on Monday.
MS. DAVIDSON: Okay.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: And that today, you probably
can have time to get things -- your personal things out of the
Ag Barn office.
MS. DAVIDSON: Okay.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: And move forward. And
hopefully, it will be positive for all of us, you included.
Very positive.
MS. DAVIDSON: Correct.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We're looking forward to that.
And --
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MS. DAVIDSON: I'm sorry I disappointed you.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well --
JUDGE TINLEY: I don't think it's an issue of
disappointment, Alyce. I think, maybe, with trying to get
things where they're adjusted, sometimes you don't always get
the right fit the first time, and I see that's what maybe
happened here. Anything else?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: We'll stand adjourned.
(Commissioners Court adjourned at 10:99 a.m.)
STATE OF TEXAS
COUNTY OF KERR
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my
capacity as County Clerk of the Commissioners Court
of Kerr County, Texas, at the time and place
heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 18th day of
May, 2007.
JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk
BY: ---- ~__ ~ --
Kathy ik, Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
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CANVASS SPECIAL CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION
Came to be heard this the 18th day of May, 2007, with a motion made by
Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. The Court unanimously
approved by vote of 4-0-0:
That the results of the May 12, 2007 General Election by canvassed and officially
approved.
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NOMINATION FOR KERRVILLE-KERB COUNTY JOINT AIRPORT BOARD
Came to be heard this the 18th day of May, 2007, with a motion made by
Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz. The Court
unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the nomination of Frederick Vogt, as Kerr County's appointment, to the
Airport Board for the term as currently held by Dr. John Davis, effective June 1,
2007.
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REASSIGNMENT OF EXISTING AG BARN EMPLOYEE'S DUTIES
Came to be heard this the 18th day of May, 2007, with a motion made by
Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Oehler. The Court unanimously
approved by vote of 4-0-0 to:
Reassign Alyce Davidson to the Extension Office at a 14/3 level for 80% of her
time, reporting to Roy Walston as her Supervisor, and 20% of her time will be for
handling the Booking of the Ag Barn and Union Church with a monthly stipend of
$200.