ORDER NO. 30942 MOVING LOCATION OF HISTORICAL MARKER Came to be heard this the llt" day of August, 2008, with a motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioners Letz/Baldwin. 'The Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0 to: Agree with the request of the Historical Commission to work with TexDOT to effect the movement of the Camp Verde Marker from its vicinity located on the corner of 16 and 27 in City of Kerrville to a new location to be designated by TexDOT in the vicinity of the Camp Verde General Store. ~ 0 9y/ /~ ~ COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST <309 y~- ~ v~ y3 PLEASE FURNISH ONE ORIGINAL AND TEN (10) COPIES OF THIS REQUEST AND DOCUMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT MADE BY: Joseph Luther MEETING DATE: 11 Aug 08 OFFICE: Historical Commission TIME PREFERRED: 10:15 am SUBJECT: Movement of Historical Markers EXECUTIVE SESSION REQUESTED: (PLEASE STATE REASON) NAME OF PERSON ADDRESSING THE COURT: Joseph Luther, Chairman ESTIMATED LENGTH OF PRESENTATION: 15 minutes IF PERSONNEL MATTER -NAME OF EMPLOYEE: Time for submitting this request for Court to assure that the matter is posted in accordance with Title 5, Chapter 551 and 552, Government Code, is as follows: Meeting scheduled for Mondays: 5:00 PM previous Tuesday THIS REQUEST RECEIVED BY: THIS RQUEST RECEIVED ON: @ .M. All Agenda Requests will be screened by the County Judge's Office to determine if adequate information has been prepared for the Court's formal consideration and action at time of Court Meetings. Your cooperation will be appreciated and contribute towards your request being addressed at the earliest opportunity. See Agenda Request Rules Adopted by Commissioners' Court. Page 1 of 2 'ody Grinstead From: JOSEPH LUTHER [JLUTHER@stx.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:38 PM To: Jody Grinstead Cc: Michael A Coward; Dell Sheftall; Jeanie Archer Webb; Joe Luther; Julia Wendel Stehling (Scott Stehling); Julie Mostty Leonard; Sue Dyke Subject: 8.11 COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST Attachments: 8.11 COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST.doc; 8.11 #2 COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST.doc 7ody Grinstead, Court Coordinator Kerr County Commissioners' Court Hello Jody, Attached are two requests to be placed on the Commissioners" Court agenda on 11 August 2008. The f first is our annual budget request. We are still in process of compiling this document and I will be able to give you the requisite 10 copies of 'r budget document after our special meeting on 5 August. I do want to reserve a pot on this agenda at this time. The second request is for the Commissioners' Court approval of the movement of three existing Texas State Historical Monuments. Two of these movements will have some of fect on the County Courthouse grounds. 1. We are asking permission to have the existing 1936 historical marker - Cnmp Verde CSA -located at the northeast corner of Main and Sidney Baker - Courthouse grounds -moved to n site near the Camp Verde store. The actual site is on the excess TxDOT ROW between FM 480 and Verde Creek and Hwy 173. 2. We are also asking for the movement of the forlorn state historical marker regarding the establishment of Kerr County. We ask that this 1936 red granite marker be moved f rom its location out on Hwy 27 to the courthouse grounds and placed in a prominent site. 3. We will also be requesting the relocation of an existing marker in the TxDOT 08/05/2008 Page 2 of 2 picnic area in front of the Camp Verde General Store. This request seeks the :location of this marker to the site on higher ground -out of the f loodway - on the east side of Verde Creek -where the Cnmp Verde CSA marker will be located. There are documents which Judge Tinley and the Commissioners will need to approve before this action can, occur. Mike Coward, the TxDOT district engineer has already approved this action as it will involve TxDOT rights-of-way. A full packet - in 10 copies -will be forthcoming to your office within a week. I do want to reserve a spot on this agenda at this time. Thank you for your kind consideration and continued cooperation. Best regards, ~o~ Joseph Luther, ph.D• Chairman Kerr County Historical Commission iluther@stx.rr.Com http:l/www.co. kerr.tx. us/h istorica I/ osiosi2oog ~- CAMP VERDE C.S.A. MARKER RELOCATION REQUEST Marker Number: 682 Marker Title: Camp Verde, C.S.A. The Kerr County Historical Commission is asking permission to have the existing 1936 historical marker -Camp Verde CSA -moved to a site near the Camp Verde store. The current position, some 10 miles from Camp Verde, is at the northeast corner of Main and Sidney Baker and is poorly located next to a high volume highway and major arterial intersection. This marker is lost in the traffic fixtures at this location. The relocation site is in a park-like setting on the excess TxDOT ROW between FM 480 and Verde Creek and Hwy 173. TOPO! map printed on 07/25/08 from "EXISTING LOCATION.tpo" wGSSa 99°08.000' w z 0 0 0 m 0 0 0 m TN MN NA 1 IoNaL 0.0 0.5 1.0 rr~es 5,/~° r.T ,___.T,~ GEOGRAPHIC ' ' ~ ~~ ~ ~T ' 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 km 07/25/08 CURRENT LOCATION OF MARKER #682 DENOTED BY RED FLAG WG584 99°08.000' W TOPO! map printed on 07/25/08 from "NEW LOCATION.tpo" 99°07.000' W WGS84 99°06.000' W z 0 0 0 v ° O~ N z 0 0 0 v N 0 N TN MN NATIONAL o.o o.s i.o s~~° GECIGRAPHIC o.o o.s l.o ~ 1.5 ~, 07/25/os PROPOSED LOCATION OF MARKER #682 DENOTED BY RED FLAG RELOCATION SITE, LOOKING EAST FROM PICNIC GROUNDS. VERDE CREEK IS SHOWN. NOTE THE SITE IS OUT OF THE FLOODWAY. PUBLIC LANDS PARCELS CAMP VERDE CROSSROADS SITE OF PROPOSED HISTORIC ROADSIDE PARK TEXAS PARTISAN RANGERS, CSA Site of proposed Texas State Historic Roadside Park at Cnmp Verde. TEXAS CSA CAVALRY Camp Verde, C.S.A. Marker 682 Number: Marker Title: Camp Verde, C.S.A. Index Entry: Camp Verde, C.S.A. Address: City: Kerrville County: Kerr UTM Zone : 14 UTM Ensting: 486501 UTM 3324067 Northing: Subject Civil War; forts; military topics Codes: Year Marker 1963 Erected: Designations: Recorded Texas Historic Landmark Marker Courthouse grounds, SW corner Sidney Baker and Main Location: Streets, Kerrville Marker Size: Large red granite at courthouse Marker Text: Texas frontier regiment outpost was established 1862, southeast and near old U.S. Post Camp Verde. Part of Red River-Rio Grande line of posts a day's horseback ride apart. The troops furnished own guns, mounts, but often lacked food, clothing, supplies. Still, scouting parties, patrols effectively curbed Indian raids until war's end. Kerr County population was 585. County voted 76-57 for secession 1861. 75 men served in Confederate and state forces. Some sent to protect Texas Coast from Union invasion, some helped to defend frontier in this region, others fought on distant battlefields. 19 men from county served in Texas Union forces. Old U.S. Post Camp Verde was taken by C.S.A. troops Feb. 1861. The Confederates captured 80 camels and two Egyptian drivers with other U.S. property. These camels were used to haul cotton -life's blood of South - to Mexico swap for vital supplies, including salt from lakes north of Brownsville. During post dances ladies rode a camel "Old Major" around the parade grounds. 600 Union soldiers captured leaving Texas early in Civil War were confined in prison canyon southwest of the camp. 3 cliffs, described ns "very difficult to ascend" surrounded the prison wren. Prisoners, held from Aug. 1861 until sometime in 1862, were allowed to build shocks and get adequate exercise with little risk of escape. One Union prisoner performed ns ventriloquist at post dance, scaring ladies with unseen pig sounds. 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