D ~I ~ d ~rl ~! ~ 1•~~ COMMISSIONERS' COURT AGENDA REQUEST PLEASE FURNISH ONE ORIGINAL AND TEN COPIES OF THIS REQUEST AND DOCUMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COURT. MADE BY• Leonard Odom Jr. MEETING DATE: January 14 2008 OFFICE: Road & Bride TIME PREFERRED: SUBJECT• (PLEASE BE 5PECIFIC)• Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for a variance to the road rate •of grade for Calle Poco Road in Vistas Grande Subdivision, Pct. 2 EXECUTIVE SESSION REQUESTED: (PLEASE STATE REASON) NAME OF PERSON ADDRESSING THE COURT• Leonard Odom/Kevin Spra~~in ESTIMATED LENGTH OF PRESENTATION: 10 minutes IF PERSONNEL MATTER -NAME OF EMPLOYEE: Time for submitting this request for Court to assure that the matter is posted in accordance with Title 5, Chapter 551 and 552, government Code, is a follows: Meeting scheduled for Mondays: 5:00 P.M. previous Tuesday THIS REQUEST RECEIVED BY: THIS REQUEST RECEIVED ON: All Agenda Requests will be screened by the County Judge's Office to determine if adequate information has been prepared for the Court's formal consideration and action at time of Court Meetings. Your cooperation will be appreciated and contribute towards your request being addressed at the earliest opportunity. See Agenda Request Rule Adopted by Commissioners' Court. reg2 r'tB 0 y~ ~~ oo~~ ~~„~ Kerr County Road & Bridge 4010 San Antonio Hwy Kerrville, Texas 78028 TO: COMMISSIONERS COURT FROM: LEONARD ODOM DATE: January 8, 2008 RE: Variance to Rate-of--Grade for Ca11e Poco Road in Vistas Grande Subdivision, Pct. 2 The developers of Vistas Grande Subdivision received approval of a Preliminary Plat October 8, 2007 with a variance to building set back on lot adjacent to Calle Poco (short street) Road. It was discussed at that time that the City would be imposing their rules and inspecting the road. The City of Kerrville's rules say 10% to 15% grades are acceptable. Ours are no more than 12%. Enclosed in your packet you will find a letter from the City Fire Marshall that states they approve, but note: "the fire apparatus that our department has makes it difficult to travel on roadways when grades are more than 10%. Please make note of this on future projects." Wayne Wells reviewed the plans and he states that if the Engineer from the City of Kerrville approves this grade, he would be inclined to require the road be paved with "trap rock." He also points out that this steep grade could present a major problem with traction. As more work is done in the ETJ, we will find differences in the two entities rules and my belief is that the most stringent should apply. Since this road is to be County maintained, I am hesitant to accept a 15% grade on this 500 ft. road; and I would ask the developer's engineer, Kevin Spraggin, if there is an engineering reason why this subdivision could not be designed to have a road that meets Kerr County Specifications. Th vistas grande road J1.1~ YORDENBAUM ENGINEERING,INC. GV1L • STRUCTURAL • ENVIRONIdENTAL MEMORANDUM Vartienbaum Engineering, Inc. 507 D East Highway Fredericksburg, TX 78624 Phone: (830) 997-4744 Fax: {830} 997-8987 Kenvi[le Phone: {830) 895-7440 Fax: (830} 895-7441 To: Leonazd Odem, Jr., Road Administrator; Kerr County Road ~ Brtdge From: Kevin Spraggins, P.E.; VEI Fax: (830) 89fi-8481 Date: 1/2t08 RE: Vistas Grande VEI JOB # 07090 We are requesting a variance to the road rate of grade ordinance for Kerr County. We are requesting a road grade of 15%. Grade has been approved by City of Kerrviile. Attached is the approval setter from the City of Kerrville Fire Marshal, a plan 8~ profiie drawing of the proposed roadway, and the plat of the subdivision. R~DOCT.23 X07 ~~~~C~ ~~~ - KERRVILLE, TEXAS October~2, 2007 - Vordertbaum EngineelYng, Inc - . . 507 D EastH';ghway - . - Fred~ricksbi~rg, texas 78b~4 ]Leis ~adway Ciades for Vistas Grande •~t~t>~ ~,ppro~ed wifti Comments . - . ~`o Whom It May Concern, ~ . _ ,A,review of tt~e submitted pleas and do_ cum-e~nts has berms conducted by the i~:emille Fire hg's Office. The submitted glans and documents are approved by the Keaviile Fire ;;:._ ildarshal's Office. Any--additional notes ar documentation required is noted in the '~:ter =`T foIlowing: ~' F ~~~ .ty . . ~~ - ; .u . 1. Far futa?te refer~lQe -b~. Wlthiil the Cl lunifs of Kerrville and iYs- ET3, In - =s'"`-:~:~- - the Internationa`L Fire_Code Sec_ lion 5U~.2.7 and $ppendix D, DI03.2, references _s: _ "`" `- of stree~s..~ he "IFC states grades shall -nvt exceed 10'la. ;= . " ~- - ~ - - - - ~ 'fie fire apparatus-that our department bas makes it difficult to travel on roadwa~rs ' , s when grades arc- more than 10°l0. Please make note of tins on future projects. ' While every effort has been made to make a complete and comprehensive review of tbie submitte~`.Flatis and documents, any omission and/or deletions in this plan review di~ea -..~-- nbt r~~lie:~p. the •contractors, architects, engineers, or dther individuals involved in this - ~~e~t.~o~n_their responsibility to fully comply with the applicable codes, regulations - ~ ; ;.If Y can be of further assistance please contact ate weekdays at 830-257- - ~t t~dssmith~kerrville.org. I Io0$ forward to working with you on the ~lYi. - 'I`ed SSnith - . Deputy Fire"Marshal - . - -- . . . . ~. ., . .. - FIRE/EMS DEPARTMEfYT 87 CORONADO DRNE • I~RR1!{LLE. TEXAS 78028 • 830!257-8444 • FAX 8301257-8455 TO: Len Odem, Kerr County Subdivision Administrator FROM: L. Wayne Wells, P.E. DATE: January 6, 2008 SUBJECT: Review of Vista Grande Construction Documents I have reviewed the construction plan and profile drawings that you provided on December 18, 2007. I found no problems that were addressed by the Kerr County Subdivision Rules and Regulations, except for the 15% grade on the proposed roadway. However, it is my understanding that a variance will be requested for this item. If, as the Engineer has stated, the City of Kerrville will approve this grade, I would be inclined to recommend approval of the variance request. I would also require that the roadway be paved with "trap rock" as a condition for the variance approval. As you are well aware, the steep grade could present a problem in icy weather and the pavement surface can play a major role in traction. Also, this surfacing will reduce aggregate removal under traffic loadings. If you have any questions or require further information regarding this matter, please contact me. 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