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KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT
Special Session
Monday, April 27, 2009
9:00 a.m.
Commissioners' Courtroom
Kerr County Courthouse
Kerrville, Texas
PRESENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge
H.A."BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1
WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2
JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3
BRUCE OEHLER, Commissioner Pct. 4
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I N D E X
April 27, 2009
--- Commissioners' Comments
1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
change Indigent Health Care Coordinator position
from a 14.1 to an 18.1 on the county's step and
grade salary schedule effective May 1, 2009
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make appropriate changes as needed to the Kerr
County Wild Animal Ordinance
1.3 Presentation of County Treasurer's monthly
report for March 2009 to Commissioners' Court
for examination and acceptance
1.4 Acknowledge receipt of quarterly investment
report from Patterson and Associates for quarter
ending 3-31-09
1.5 Consider/discuss and approve amending Court
Order 31256 for extension of depository contract
between Security State Bank and Kerr County to
include funds under LGC Chapter 117
1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action
regarding presentation of Kerr County 6-month
financials for FY '09
1.10 Public Hearing for final revision of plat for
Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates,
Lot 128 and 129, Precinct 4
1.7 Presentation to review insurance expense for
fiscal year '08-'09
1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on
approval of audit reports for Kerr County
Justices of the Peace, Precincts 1 through 4
1.9 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on
annual audit of Chapter 19 Voter Registrar funds
for October 1, 2007 through February 28, 2009
1.11 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for
acceptance of the Final Revision of Plat for
Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates,
Lots 128 and 129, Precinct 4
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April 27, 2009
1.12 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
release Western Surety Bond #70271788 and accept
the CNA Surety Bond #0601 70271788, Precinct 4
1.13 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
release Letter of Credit for Ranches of Sunset
Ridge and accept a maintenance bond for a year to
finish remainder of items. to be completed, Pct. 3
1.14 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding
changing positions in the position schedule within
Road and Bridge
1.15 Open bids for courthouse windows and distribute
to appropriate personnel for review and
recommendations
1.16 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
establish confidentiality agreements between
Information Technology and offices served by
Kerr County IT
1.17 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
submit a "2009 TRRN Certification Letter" to
AACOG in order to be eligible for any 2009
Homeland Security grants; allow County Judge
to sign same
1.18 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to
change date for employee evaluations from May 25,
2009 at 1:30 p.m. to May 26, 2009 at 1:30 p.m.
1.19 Six-month review of Juvenile Detention Center
4.1 Pay Bills
4.2 Budget Amendments
4.3 Late Bills
4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports
5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee
Assignments
5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads
Adjourned
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On Monday, April 27, 2009, at 9:00 a.m., a special
meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in
the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse,
Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in
open court:
P R O C E E D I N G S
JUDGE TINLEY: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
Let me call to order this regular meeting of the Kerr County
Commissioners Court posted and scheduled for this time and
date, Monday, April 27, 2009, at 9 a.m. It is that time now.
Commissioner Letz?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Would everyone please stand and
join me in a moment of prayer, followed by the pledge.
(Prayer and pledge of allegiance.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Please be seated. At
this time, if there's any member of the audience or the
public that wishes to be heard on any matter that is not a
listed agenda item, feel free to come forward at this time
and tell us what's on your mind. If you wish to be heard on
an agenda item, we would prefer that you fill out a
participation form located at the back of the room. It's not
essential that you do that. It helps me insofar as knowing
that there's someone that wishes to be heard so that when we
do get to that item, I can see that you're recognized.
However, if you wish to be heard on an agenda item and you've
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not filled out a participation form, that's all right, too.
Just get my attention in some manner and I'll see that you
have the opportunity to be heard. But right now, if there's
any member of the audience or the public that wishes to be
heard on any matter that is not a listed agenda item, feel
free to come forward at this time. Seeing no one coming
forward, we will move on with our agenda. Commissioner Letz?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: A couple things this morning.
I think the last time we were here, I was getting ready to go
meet with some environmentalists and give a talk. I made it
out alive. (Laughter.) Actually, had quite a bit of fun
giving a little bit of guff and taking it from Ken Kramer,
who's the head of Sierra Club, and a few others. It's
amazing; they just don't think too far out of the box, pretty
narrow focus. They kind of look at you with glazed eyes when
you bring up something that they don't understand, like power
transmission lines crossing the hill country because of wind
power. It was a very interesting experience; had a good
time.
A brief update on the legislation we've been
working on in Austin. The bill has come out of committee.
It's now in calendars. It was changed; not real, real happy
with the changes made. Not real happy with most of the
legislators, including our own, though Harvey has said he is
going to support the bill. Then he goes around and does some
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other things. So, anyway, it's kind of up in the air as to
where all that's going. If it -- from Harvey's perspective,
if it doesn't get out of calendars within a week, 10 days at
most, it's dead. So -- and calendars -- that whole thing up
there is so weird to me. Calendars, you think that they
would, you know, take action on it. I mean, the way they do
it, I guess, they can do nothing, which kills the bill, and
so they have to be proactive. And they're -- all of the
members of the Calendars Committee are urban, so none of them
have a real strong reason to care about this bill. So,
unless somebody puts pressure on someone to do it, any one of
them can kill it. So, that's kind of a -- if it ever gets to
the Senate, we'll see what happens there.
And then last Saturday -- well, this past Saturday,
the 25th, Center Point community had their 100th anniversary
of the schoolhouse and the founding of that community, and
for those that are interested in it, -- Irene was there, I
know -- here's a book they put together. Very interesting.
The -- it's a series of articles, stories, memories from
primarily people in that area. If you look at the directory,
you'd think you're in Germany, but Julius Neunhoffer family,
they have a story in here. Pieper family, Holekamp family,
Wiedenfelds, Schladoers, Schellhase, Halbecker. So, it's a
bunch of the people that are both prominent in Kerr County
and Kendall County in the Kerrville and Comfort area, so it's
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kind of an interesting book and stories. Well-attended,
all-day event, good German lunch. As a representative, I was
there, Constable Garza was there, Judge Mitchell was there;
maybe some others came later. But, anyway, had a real good
time. They put a lot of work into it. It turned out very
nice. That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Oehler?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, first thing, we have
had -- in my area last night, at least, we had some rain. We
had almost eight-tenths, which is very welcome. Sorry you
didn't get that much, Jon, but, you know, I guess that's the
way it goes. The other thing is, this last week I attended a
-- I guess it's the Hill Country chapter of the Prescribed
Burn Association, and went through about a -- oh, I think
there was about almost three hours worth of talking and going
over the Kerr Wildlife area where they had done some burning,
and showed the results and showed -- told about a lot of
things that they take into consideration when they do those
burns. And not to -- I think, for the most part, they did an
outstanding job. And Bill Armstrong was there to kind of
help the new kid on the block along and giving him guidance
on how to do the burning.
And -- and then I guess the other thing is, been
around the bridge projects a couple times in the last two
weeks up around Highway 39, and there's three of them going
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at one time. And the two Smith crossings are just about
~ ready to backfill and open up both lanes, and Panther Creek
is -- one lane is finished, and they're going to start
transferring that traffic over pretty soon and work on the
other half. I believe we have two projects that are getting
bid. I believe it's in -- what, October was in June, and I
believe it's this month to be let in July, and it will be
started first of September, that being the Lone Star Crossing
right by River Bend Ranch, and the other one being Mayhew,
which is the first one you come to in the North Fork after
you leave Hunt, which is one of the most critical ones that
stays flooded the longest. So, those projects are set to be
-- be let. They're going to be bid this month, let in July,
and start September. That's a little bit about what I'm
doing. That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Commissioner Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir, I have a couple of
things. I wanted to remind you guys that this Friday at
10:30, we have a workshop, I don't know, in here somewhere in
the courthouse. The Assistant D.A. from Williamson County is
to come -- is coming over to make a presentation on the
direct file system, which is a pretty cool thing, I think. I
have been -- last couple of weeks, have been going to the
courts and observing them, and watching the jail population
do its little thing, and really fascinating and interesting.
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If you remember, about this time a year ago, we had in the
neighborhood of 180 prisoners in our jail. One day this last
week, we got it down to 117. So, what's going -- you know,
it's neat to see the District Judges both going out to the
jail and functioning out there in that courtroom, and -- and,
you know, the -- we can get five or six people out of there,
and they'd go arrest seven or eight, but it's just -- that's
just the way the thing works. But this direct file thing
should -- in my mind, you know, it'll reduce the numbers even
further, and I can see it where it's going to help maintain
those numbers. And if you remember, really, the reason that
we're all putting -- putting any effort -- putting forth
effort in this thing is we want to reduce the number of
prisoners, as opposed to spending taxpayers' money on a new
jail, so everybody is really bending over backwards to get
this thing done, and I'm -- the District Judges, both D.A.'s,
everybody's working very, very hard to get this thing done,
and I appreciate them a lot.
I want to remind you also, May 14th we're going to
have dinner on the grounds out here. You'd be amazed at some
of the folks that have stopped me and are excited about --
some of the old-timers are coming in to be a part of that,
and I've gotten e-mails from people all over the state, and
it's really kind of interesting, and I'm pretty excited about
it. I understand there's going to be a hell of a band. And
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I don't cuss, but there's going to be a hell of a band out
there. So, you may want to have, from 12:00 to 1:00, dinner
on the grounds, Thursday, May 14th. I got a report from my
little boy down on the border Thursday morning at 5:30.
Right across the river from him, the police chief that had
been there for six days was assassinated at 5 o'clock
Thursday morning. So, he sleeps with two handguns and a
shotgun, much like the County Judge here. (Laughter.) And
-- but we've added a --
JUDGE TINLEY: I'll tell my wife that you called
her one of those names. (Laughter.)
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: She's the handgun? But he's
added -- added a machine gun to his arsenal now. So, I mean,
he carries a machine gun everywhere he goes, and that's
pretty sad, and dang dangerous. So, as his daddy, I'm
ordering him to come home. Somebody else can protect the
borders. That's it. That's all I've got to say about that.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Williams?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Wish I had good news, but
what I have is a piece of -- I need to advise the Court about
what happened in your absence, Judge, at the Juvenile
Detention Facility. We blew a boiler out there in the old
building, and Mr. Tim called me bright and early one morning
in your absence to tell me about it. Doesn't seem to be such
a monumental occasion, except that that provides the hot
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water to the washing machines, takes cares of the clothes for
the kids in the other facility, so we had a little problem.
Tim told me that to fix the old boiler -- he'll have more
details for you here in a second -- would be somewhere like
-- or to replace it, I should say, would be something like a
$30,000 to $40,000 expenditure, so we opted quickly to find
another solution. Mr. Tim, do you want to come up here and
tell the Court what the other solution is and how much money
you saved out of your budget by doing that?
JUDGE TINLEY: I notice you mention his budget.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: County Attorney's shaking his
head.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No?
MR. EMERSON: No.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Under my report?
MR. EMERSON: No. You're more than welcome to talk
about it, but you can't drag him in and get into a
discussion.
COMMISSIONER
MR. BOLLIER:
COMMISSIONER
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clothing situation and
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WILLIAMS: Sit down, Tim.
Yes, sir, County Attorney.
WILLIAMS: The solution, gentlemen,
washing machines to take care of the
installed them in the newer facility,
less than $30,000 to $40,000 for a
s, now we have clean clothes for the
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kids in the Juvenile Detention Facility. We have an old
building with a busted boiler, which someday we'll have to
take -- pay attention to. But you may remember that the only
reason that boiler stayed fired all the time was to take care
of the clothes washing situation in the newer facility, so
now we've corrected that; we were forced to correct that.
And when it comes time to talk about what to do with the old
facility, we'll talk about what to do with the boiler. Is
that okay, Mr. County Attorney?
MR. EMERSON: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: I was at the West Texas County
Judges and Commissioners Association conference the majority
of last week, 118 counties represented by that group.
Attendance was pretty significant. The report I heard was
that there were 450, which, when you stop and consider
that -- that with five commissioners and five members of the
court from each county, you're talking about what, 590 folks,
I guess, so that's a pretty good sampling of those folks. We
got the opportunity to learn about some new issues and some
new problems and what's going on at the Legislature. There's
some good things pending, probably most of which won't get
enacted. There's some bad things pending, which hopefully
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that one goes. But all in all, it was a pretty good
conference, and well-attended. Let's get on with our agenda.
First item on the agenda is to consider, discuss,
step and grade salary schedule effective May 1, 2009, with
funds to cover the change coming from unexpended Fiscal Year
2009 Indigent Health Care budget, Line Item 50-641-106.
Hospital inpatient, which had 78 percent of the funds
remaining at the end of March 2009. Budget impact for the
current budget year will be $2,830. Ms. Lavender?
MS. LAVENDER: On a personal note, I want to thank
the Judge and Commissioner Oehler for coming to the Habitat
groundbreaking too. I'm sorry the rest of you didn't get
there, but thank you guys for coming and representing the
county. When we started this program last September and
hired someone for the position, we really were kind of in the
dark about what the responsibilities would be and how much
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work there would be. And she did not ask me to come do this;
I' I did this on my own. But I feel like this lady that we
hired came to us with exceptional credentials and background,
and her learning curve was about as short as I've ever seen
with anyone coming into a position that was new. And as
you've been watching all year, the cost of the Indigent
Health program has been greatly reduced, significantly
reduced. As of this morning, we have 39 people, and that
includes the jail population on indigent health care. She
has worked with them to -- some of the long-term ones that we
had on there, to move them over to Social Security, where
they both have insurance and supplemental income benefits.
And she's worked with Jennifer Knoulton, the Wesley nurse out
at First Methodist Church, to get our diabetic clients into
II counseling and diet help, and to get them help with their
diabetic supplies. So, she's worked real hard to get this
program up, running, and where it needs to be, and compared
to others in the courthouse who have similar
responsibilities, I feel like this is a justifiable increase
in her pay grade and salary, and I would ask to you approve
it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is it normal to jump four
steps like that?
MS. LAVENDER: I don't know.
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MS. LAVENDER: I don't know about pay grade and
salary stuff. You'd have so ask Eva about that. I think
when we started this thing, we really didn't know where it
was going to fall into the pay grade scale, and I think we
needed six months to look at it. And we've looked at it for
six months, and I would let Eva speak to that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good.
MS. HYDE: I went back to the notes when y'all
discussed it --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Use the mic, please.
MS. HYDE: I went back to the notes when y'all
first discussed the position, and one of the things that was
discussed is we don't know what this person is going to do or
be capable of, but we want to bring them in where everybody
else is. And then it was supposed to be reevaluated, looked
at throughout the year to see, and after six months, see if
there was anything there. So, that's kind of why it's being
brought back to the Court. No, sir, it's not in the budget.
I think that was part two of your question, Commissioner
Baldwin. No?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No.
MS. HYDE: Okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It would be mine, but...
MS. HYDE: So, that's kind of where it's at.
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is it normal to step from 14
MS. HYDE: It's a brand new position, so there was
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Has anybody stepped from 14
MS. HYDE: There's been some, yeah.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Four steps?
MS. HYDE: There's been some that's gone more than
JUDGE TINLEY: Ms. Hyde, based on your assessment
of what the job description has come to entail and
responsibilities of that particular position, do you feel
like 18.1 is an appropriate pay grade classification for that
position, given those considerations?
MS. HYDE: Rosa? One thing that we had talked
about was a 17 or an 18, so, you know, I'm kind of a
'tweener, because it's not in the budget, and I know one
person is going to say something about it not being in the
budget. But between a 17 or 18, because she'll also get her
longevity in October, which will take her up.
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would reevaluate. That makes sense. I'm glad we said that.
At least we're not totally outside what we normally do. I'm
like Buster, though; it seems like it's an awful big jump,
and I really -- the problem I have with these things is we
need to really look at job descriptions and make sure the job
description -- you know, people need to get paid based on
what they're doing. I believe in that. But we tend to look
at money and then create jobs descriptions to -- to fit that.
And that's where I have a little bit of concern. I think
18.1 seems a little bit on the high side to me on this.
MS. HYDE: Most of them are 17's, if you look at
the job descriptions, and I think that's where you two were
going. Most of them are 17's. And then you have your chief
deputies that are 19's, and, like, court coordinators are
19's. So, this one's kind of a 'tweener. Is she considered
a court coordinator type responsibility because of all the
moneys and things that she's dealing with, and the decrees
and the job responsibilities? 'Cause there's little or no
direction. This is a brand-new thing. Or is it more a 17,
right below where we look at a chief deputy, where this is
the next logical step that they would go in the -- in the
positions? And then, you know, at a later date, maybe you'd
look at a 17 -- an 18 or a 19, depending on what -- what pans
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think the -- at this point,
17 fits better, because Rosa is there from the standpoint of
a -- of a supervisor. I'm not real sure if that makes sense
long-term, not that I want to put you out of a job.
MS. LAVENDER: Well, you're not paying me to do it
anyway, so it doesn't matter.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it's kind of -- you know, I
think we were kind of feeling our way. Down the road, it may
make sense to increase it, but I think 17, because there is
some supervision and guidance.
MS. LAVENDER: But it's unpaid. If you remember, I
didn't get any increase in salary to do this.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it's goodwill.
MS. LAVENDER: I know, it's 'cause I have a big
heart.
JUDGE TINLEY: Ms. Lavender, the -- it's my
understanding that that employee is -- in addition to
handling the eligibility and those sorts of things that were
anticipated to be done in that job, is also filing for
reimbursements.
MS. LAVENDER: Correct.
JUDGE TINLEY: For those that end up on, for
example, Social Security Disability.
MS. LAVENDER: Correct.
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are they netted out against the cost, or do they go into a
separate -- a separate kitty over here on the side? I guess
my question is the 8 percent --
MS. WILLIAMS: A lot depends on the date that that
service was paid on. If it was a prior-year expense, it does
not go back into that eligibility line item. If it is a
current-year expense, we put it back in there, because areas
-- if they weren't covered, we wouldn't have paid it anyway.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Would it be a fair statement
that most of these reimbursements are going to cover
something prior to this fiscal year, the --
MS. LAVENDER: I can't answer that.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MS. WILLIAMS: It's kind of fifty-fifty, Judge.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MS. WILLIAMS: We can't really tell until we know
what date the service was actually paid for. Anything with
October 1 is current. Anything prior to that is --
JUDGE TINLEY: How far back do these reimbursement
claims -- how far back do we go against Social Security
Disability? What's --
MS. WILLIAMS: I think they can go back as far as
six or seven months, or even maybe a year.
MS. LAVENDER: Yeah. When we first took over the
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that hadn't been paid or had been paid and not asked for
reimbursement, she has worked those very conscientiously and
caught up with all of that. The paperwork with this program
was far more than I ever thought it would be for one person
to handle, and just the -- the walk-in clientele. Because in
my situation, most of the time people make an appointment
with me. In her situation, she has a lot of -- of just
walk-in clientele, and a lot of times they stay quite a while
and are very challenging to deal with. But if you feel like
17.1 is appropriate, then I'm sure she's going to be grateful
for whatever we do. But I do think 14.1 is way below where
she belongs in the -- in the system.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: When does longevity kick
in?
MS. LAVENDER: She will be here a year on the 20th
of October, and so I'm not sure whether it kicks in -- at
what point -- I'm not on the pay grade step, and so I'm not
real familiar with how that works.
MS. HYDE: Second payroll in October.
MS. LAVENDER: Second pay period in October is when
the longevity would kick in.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Being there is --
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I do agree, we ought to pay
people for what job they're doing. I have no problem with
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funded this -- this year, and the program is well spent. The
money's well spent for what we're getting out of it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: On the other hand, though,
you have people that have been working here a long time, and
I feel like we've got to be fair to everybody else. We
shouldn't promote too much at one time, and reevaluate these
things at budget time. I'm not -- I'm not opposed to giving,
you know, some increase because of her responsibilities and
what her job entails. That's fine, after a review at six
months. But I can't see jumping that high within a budget
year, taking money from -- just because funds are unexpended
doesn't mean we need to find a way to spend them.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: My inclination would be
more along the lines -- I don't disagree with you -- more
along the lines of a 16, but with a step in grade coming in
October, which takes it to a 17. I appreciate the good work
that -- that the employee is doing.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think take it to a 16.2.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 16.2 would be fine. 16.2
would be just fine, and then step and grade takes them up
another notch a few months later.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: 16.1 now, and the annual thing
kicks -- would kick it up to either a -- just adds a -- from
25 d a l to a 2 at that point.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We could take it to a 2
now, in my opinion.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't like to take it to a 2
now; I'd rather leave it at a 1, because it's a -- it's
supposed to be a start -- an entry level.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: All right.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, in all of our
brilliance that we said that we were going to reevaluate this
position in six months, I think if we were really sincere
about that, we would have provided something in the budget to
take care of this issue that we're dealing with today. But
in reality, we're not that smart.
MS. LAVENDER: Well, and the budget was done long
before this was done, also.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- but someone make a
motion; I'm ready to do this thing. Light a candle.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I will move that the
Indigent Health Care Coordinator position be increased
I~ effective May 1 from a 14.1 to a 16.1 on the county step and
grade salary schedule.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: We have a motion and second.
', Question or discussion on that motion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
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JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry.
MS. LAVENDER: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: She does a terrific job and
she's a neat employee.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No doubt.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rosa, I think we do need to
look at this again.
MS. LAVENDER: When we do the budget, right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll look at the job
description.
MS. LAVENDER: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's move to Item 2; consider,
discuss, take appropriate action to make appropriate changes
as needed to the Kerr County Wild Animal Ordinance.
Commissioner Oehler?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, I put this on. I was
supposed to have done it last meeting and I didn't get it
done, and I apologize to Ms. Crenshaw and the others that are
affected by not getting that done. This is a choice, I
think, that could be argued any way, either one way or the
other, one side or the other. I've visited with Rex, and
he's given me some guidance as far as what we can and can't
do with this. I think it would be all of our desire to
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restrict more -- more so in areas of high population than we
would in areas like, say, ranches that were 500 or 1,000
acres. Unfortunately, we can't do that. We can't restrict
it that way. We either have -- we restrict it county-wide;
doesn't matter, you know, where the animals may or may not be
located. This is the only way we can -- we can deal with
this order. I know Ms. Crenshaw wants to speak on this, and
I know that the law that's on the books now, you know, gives
guidelines, specific guidelines of what -- what you can and
can't do, or what you must do in order to be able to house
one of these types of animals that's listed. Those -- those
are fairly restrictive in what you can do and what you must
do to be able to keep them. My concern about passing
something new or more restrictive, I guess, is kind -- it's
kind of like what we're seeing going on in our federal
government and our state government nowadays. We're getting
-- we're getting more laws and more laws and we lose more
rights and more rights each and every day. And it seems that
we should have done a better job of enforcing what was there
to begin with.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Brilliant.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: If we had done that, this
more than likely would not have happened.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I agree.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So I feel like we need to
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take some responsibility for that. On the other hand, we
know that our population is growing. Our subdivisions are --
you know, they're getting -- there are getting to be more
everywhere. You're having the larger tracts being broken up
into smaller residential areas. And the other side of that
is, I don't believe I want to live next door to somebody that
has one of these things, even if they were following all the
rules. So, you know, I think you can argue this either way.
And -- but I do know that we are getting more populated, and
as time goes on, you know, I believe that we probably ought
to do something about this, and we may ought to do something
about it today. Anyway, Ms. Crenshaw? Would you like to...
MS. CRENSHAW: I don't have much more to say this
time than what I said before, but I do not think these --
these animals are pets. I mean, I don't care what you say.
You wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning with one of them in
the yard with you, and you don't believe it's a pet. The --
we're very fortunate that it happened at the time it did,
because on that road -- there are children walking on that
road all the time, elderly people on the road all the time,
and if they'd have met that cat, what would have happened?
If the school bus had been there at that time, what would
have happened? And -- you know, and I don't think that the
enforcement of the -- of what she was supposed to have had up
there was enforced completely at that time. She had gone
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up -- as far as I know, she has redone everything up there.
If she was complying with the law completely, why did she
have to redo everything up there? And you don't go up there.
You got trespassing signs all over everywhere, and she will
enforce it, so you don't know what's going on. But I would
appreciate the fact that you would consider it, because like
I said, it's a -- it's certainly a traumatizing thing in the
morning to wake up with all that going on, and nobody was
ever notified. As I said, I'm the only Crenshaw in the phone
book, but they didn't call and tell us that the tiger was
out. Nothing was done to notify us. I woke up in the
morning; looked like every house -- every light in my house
was on, because I had all kind of law enforcement out in the
front with all their lights into my house, flashing lights
going on, everything. I didn't know what was going on.
Fortunately, my son-in-law was with the volunteer fire
department. He has a scanner, and he called me and told me
that the tiger was out, and stay away from the windows and
the doors. And, like I said, I think we're just very
fortunate that it happened at the time it did, and nobody was
hurt from it. But it can happen again very easily.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, Ms. Crenshaw.
existing order, is there a requirement that we hold a public
hearing to give notice of the hearing, et cetera?
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MR. EMERSON: There is, Judge, but I think the
Court's already held a public hearing. If I'm not mistaken,
it was six weeks ago, maybe?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah.
MR. EMERSON: Which nobody showed up to speak at
that time.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: They didn't, and it was my
fault that Ms. Crenshaw didn't get a call, so I have to
apologize for that, but we did hold a public hearing.
JUDGE TINLEY: My concern was there wasn't a
specific proposed change or new order that was laid out
for -- for the public's consideration. I think that's my
concern.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And it's still not.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's correct, Judge.
There was nothing.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We could -- we could propose
one, and then if you want to have a public hearing, I have no
objection to doing -- however is the right way, correct way
to do it. But my understanding, we could do this with a
public hearing and amend it at will.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Seems to me that if we're
going to do a public hearing, we need to tell -- advise the
public exactly what part of this order we're going to change,
and to what extent.
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COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Right.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So that they can digest the
language and make a decision as to whether or not they wish
to come and be supportive or against it. And we haven't done
that. We had what we called a public hearing, but we didn't
have any proposed language. And I -- you know, I think your
comments earlier, Commissioner, were good. We have an order
on the books, and to some extent, it would appear that we
haven't enforced what we already have. And it seems to me
that we -- we try hard not to do this, but whether it's
commissioners court or any other governmental agency, we tend
to pile law on top of law on top of law on the same topic,
and first thing you know, you got a stack of laws and nobody
knows what's what, and you don't get anything enforced. So,
if we're going to make a change, I'd like to let the public
know exactly what it is and give them the proper notification
so that they can come and express themselves.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah, no objection to that
whatsoever. I think it's only fair and right to do so. And
if I were to propose a change, it would be to -- to
grandfather the ones that are already here, and legally
housed according to the state regulations, and then ban any
further animals like that to reside in the county. None
could come in after that.
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suggestion? If we're going to make a change in this
particular court order in the section on dangerous wild
animals, then -- and if there's any deficiency in the area
with respect to impoundment right now, we need to examine
that and make it stronger in terms of what we expect of our
Animal Control people and what we expect of impoundment.
Instead of just saying, "Well, go out and enforce what you
got," let's take a look at it.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: Would it be appropriate for there to
be specific -- a specific change or changes to be proposed
and then brought to the Court requesting a public hearing on
those specific -- that specific change or changes?
MR. EMERSON: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Would that be the appropriate
procedure?
MR. EMERSON: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That could be done.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Be more than happy to do so.
!, JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
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~I can have a -- set a ublic hearin and then -- then decide
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the changes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Exactly, sure. First you need to
get the changes crafted that are going to be proposed, and
then bring --
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: The County Attorney and I
will work on that.
JUDGE TINLEY: Good enough. Anything further on
I that?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Not that I know of.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's move to Item 3; consider -- a
presentation of the County Treasurer's monthly report from
March 2009 to Commissioners Court. Report's for the Court's
examination and acceptance. Ms. Williams?
MS. WILLIAMS: Good morning. Okay. I believe each
of y'all should have a copy of my March Treasurer's report,
and if there are any questions, I will do my best to answer
them.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any questions for Ms. Williams on
the March 2009 monthly report?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move we accept the monthly
report as presented.
i COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
~i JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded as
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favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
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(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. We'll go to
Item 4; acknowledge receipt of the quarterly investment
report from Patterson and Associates for the quarter ending
3-31-09. Again, Ms. Williams.
MS. WILLIAMS: Okay. I did present a copy of the
quarterly investment report to Jody for the Court's --
perusal, I guess, best as I can come up with. If there are
any questions -- I mean, it's kind of self-explanatory.
Everything is just kind of in the toilet right now.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: In the tank.
MS. WILLIAMS: Yeah, that too.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move we accept the quarterly
report as presented.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded to accept
the quarterly investment report. Question or discussion on
the motion? All in favor of the motion, signify by raising
your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That means we're not making
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JUDGE TINLEY: You're right, Jon, we're not making
~ much money. But --
MS. WILLIAMS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Better than losing money.
JUDGE TINLEY: That's right. We'll go to Item 5;
consider, discuss, and approve amending Court Order 31256 for
the extension of depository contract between Security State
Bank and Kerr County to include the funds under Local
Government Code Chapter 117. Ms. Pieper?
MS. PIEPER: Gentlemen, last week when this was
presented, it just stated that -- for the Chapter 116, which
I believe is the Treasurer's funds, but I would also like to
include the County and District Clerk funds under Chapter
117.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
approval. Question or discussion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. We'll move
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regarding presentation of the Kerr County six-month
financials for fiscal year '09. Ms. Mabry?
MS. HARGIS: Actually, it's me. We're going to put
it up on the screen for y'all. You got a PDF of it. It's
very large, so I thought we'd put it up like we did the
budget and go through any questions, if any of you have any
particular questions that you want to address.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Can you turn that thing,
John, a little bit? Is this on our computer also?
MS. HARGIS: It should be. We've got a PDF of it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: A PDF that you can't read.
MS. HARGIS: You can go in Incode, just like we
have before, and we can show you how to do that if you'd
like, 'cause I think it would be easier.
(Low-voice discussion off the record.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Appears that we got problems coming
on our Court-appointed attorneys and Court-appointed services
in the County Court at Law.
MS. HARGIS: Mm-hmm.
JUDGE TINLEY: And 216th. 198th looks okay for
now.
MS. HARGIS: Right.
JUDGE TINLEY: That's what I'm reading.
MS. HARGIS: Yeah, the 216th, because of them
trying to clear the docket, I think we've had more
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Court-appointed attorneys to try clear the docket. I think
this is part of them trying to clear the docket, so we're
seeing these expenses for the attorneys sooner than we had
before. And having spoken with the D.A. for the 216th, he
expected those to be pretty high, even in the month of April,
because they had an awful lot of trials that went for several
hours in March, and so, therefore, you know, we're going to
end up having a problem there. We tried to budget as high as
we could in those areas, based on prior year. But I think --
we have a new judge, and we didn't really know what he was
going to do at this stage of the game, and he's trying to do
what -- what I think y'all asked him to do. And that's
always one of our -- our -- and I've only been here -- this
is my second year to go through this, but from what I can
see, that's always an area that we tend to have a little bit
of problems with. The civil Court-appointed attorney, we're
at 42 percent. And the Court-appointed at 402, we're at
30 percent, Judge? Yeah, we only have 30 percent left in
that line item. We should be at 50 percent on most of your
line items. If you're -- if you're at -- if you're over
50 percent, like 55, 60, then we're in good shape. If you're
under 50 percent, that's where -- so we're actually -- we
really don't have but 30 percent left in that line item, and
I don't know what the bills are going to be for this month
and whether it's going to eat into that. I'm sure that it
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Which page are you on on
the screen up there?
MS. HARGIS: Page 18.
MS. MABRY: 18.
JUDGE TINLEY: Actually, you should actually be
more than 50 percent because of the way they accrue. We
won't get the bills for the first six months until on into
the seventh month.
MS. HARGIS: That's what I --
JUDGE TINLEY: Maybe even a little bit after, so --
MS. HARGIS: That's what I mentioned. The bills
for March have not come in yet, so really, you're looking at
five months here for those particular bills. We probably
have about two more months there, and -- and then we might --
we're going to have to discuss how we're going to do that.
In the 198th, again, you're okay; you're at 53 percent and
69 percent, so those are -- those are running okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But the 216th, anyway,
Court-appointed services is under, and there's a fair amount
of money there. So --
MS. HARGIS: We could use that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, that's not going to get
us to the end of the year necessarily, but at least there's
something internally in that one budget.
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MS. HARGIS: Well, and we haven't used anything for
the Special District Judge. I think -- I know Judge Ables
has been here quite a bit. I don't know if he's charging.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There's something in the
bill list today, is there not?
JUDGE TINLEY: Mm-hmm, there is.
MS. HARGIS: So --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right.
MS. HARGIS: But he has been here a lot. In fact,
I've seen him more now than I did before.
JUDGE TINLEY: Do you know who handles the 6th
Administrative District assignments fund for judges? Do
I You --
MS. HARGIS: No, I haven't -- no, I have no
jurisdiction over that. It's my understanding that his staff
on that is -- Judge Ables is over the 6th District. Becky
Henderson does clerical work, and Tommy, my predecessor, does
the accounting work for that, so I have no knowledge of that.
JUDGE TINLEY: 'Cause I know there's some funding
available for the 6th Administrative Region.
MS. HARGIS: Which they divide up. And I think
he's been, you know, trying to use some of that, but they
it have to divide that amongst the region, and I think Becky
II talked about that during the budget period. It's like
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JUDGE TINLEY: I'd be interested to know what --
what Kerr County has utilized from that fund, and what's
available there.
MS. HARGIS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think -- I think it was
said that some of that's going to be available for our jail
issue, visiting judge in our jail issue as well.
JUDGE TINLEY: That's part of the reason I --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- I'd like to have the benefit of
that information.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: I knew there was a fund for -- the
Legislature quit just carte blanche funding visiting judges.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Right.
JUDGE TINLEY: And they created a pool within each
administrative district or region, and Judge Ables has
control over that, but he tries to allocate it out. I was
not aware of the total amount of when it got used, if it got
used, how much got used, how much we use or how much we might
realistically have available on a pro rata basis. That's the
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'd like to see it as well.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah.
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MS. HARGIS: Okay. I made a note of that; I will
get that information to y'all.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MS. HARGIS: And, again, we talked about the 198th.
If you're trying to see what fund you are in, it's in the
upper left-hand corner under where it says General Fund.
Then right under that is the name of the -- of the particular
department. Most of the departments are fine. The -- the
one that -- and Rusty's not here, but one of his areas is the
overtime line item that we talked about, in lieu of paying
them comp time. So, we may have to go back to a little bit
of comp time towards the end of the year on his situation,
because he is going to go over that, and we are moving that
around. His meals and the food have become a little bit of a
problem on that.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What page are you on now?
MS. HARGIS: Um --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: 36.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 36?
MS. HARGIS: Right. Right now, he's okay. We
moved some money around with some budget amendments last
time, but we are watching that.
i COMMISSIONER LETZ: Prisoner medical is
substantially under budget. Is that largely due to the
indigent health care work we're doing?
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MS. HARGIS: No, it's because of that contract that
~ we have, remember?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh.
MS. HARGIS: And that is really saving us a lot of
money. And we're only six months into it, but so far, so
good. Yes, the indigent health care is helping there,
because we're not putting them on. The big thing is the
drugs. Remember, that was part of the problem, and they
dispense the drugs through that company, and so that's saving
us quite a bit of money.
JUDGE TINLEY: The prisoner medical, Line Item 333,
is for the excess that we're obligated for over and above the
contract, according to my understanding.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
MS. HARGIS: Yeah. We had some -- remember, there
was a deductible kind of like our insurance, and we had to --
we had -- you know, if we go over that, then we have to pay
the difference.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I think it would be
appropriate -- I'd like -- if we're six months into this
particular program, I think it would be appropriate to have a
little report on that, to have a discussion about that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: Are you talking about the new
program at the jail, the contract?
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: Health care?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think, 'cause that's some
interesting stuff there.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Big dollars, too.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Big dollars.
MS. HARGIS: Yeah, it was 240,000.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, that's a drop in the
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MS. HARGIS: It's much better than -- it's much
better than it has been so far. So, again, Rusty tells me
he's very pleased with it, and we haven't had any
conversations, you know, that -- that warranted that he was
concerned about excess funds in that particular line item.
JUDGE TINLEY: He's pleased with the administration
of it and how they're performing out there?
MS. HARGIS: So far. He may have some other things
that he would like to share with y'all. We only talk about
the money side of it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I wasn't exactly
asking him to give us a report; I'd rather have you do it.
If we can keep him out of here, it would be --
MS. HARGIS: Because I talk fast? I think most of
the other	departments	are -- are being	very frugal.	The one
thing that	I think is	-- is becoming a	problem for	some of
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them is that we cut back -- most everybody cut back on their
travel and their conferences, and that is becoming a real
problem, because several them have new people. They need to
go to the conferences; some of them need them for their
licenses and so forth, and so when they cut back, they
weren't thinking. So -- and in this next budget period, in
their notes, I think they need to look at all the
conferences, how many people that they need to send, how many
need to be licensed and so forth. The other area that I
would like to see maybe a change on, and it kind of came up
when we did the certification for the folks in the Animal
Control, is I believe that's a good program, but we need to
budget somehow for that, especially like in the jail and in
the Sheriff's Department. We have, I think, 15 people who
are eligible, maybe, and only two have gone. But we could
have had all 15. So, we -- we need to kind of maybe do an
average and budget that money so that if they do go, we have
it available. Because we can't just put it in their line
item, 'cause we don't know if they're going to go, and that
inflates his budget. But we need maybe -- it's my
understanding years ago, you had a line item for
certification pay, and I think that would be better than
budgeting for them going, and then they don't go.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Can't we put that under
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MS. HARGIS: We could.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: One pool of money?
MS. HARGIS: We could.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That way it's a lot easier.
MS. HARGIS: Okay, but I do think it needs to be
JUDGE TINLEY: Ms. Hargis, on training and -- and
obtaining these certifications, there are more and more of
those types of programs --
MS. HARGIS: Yes.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- that are available online, or
they're available via interactive video teleconferencing.
That's another one of the advantages to having a good,
full-blown video teleconferencing hookup where you can save
some money and create some efficiency. I think we need to
seriously consider looking at that. There are more and more
employers in the private sector that are doing things that
way. There are more and more in the government sector. I
think you'll find that the Extension Service is going to it
pretty heavily now with -- with video teleconferencing. So,
you know, if you can avoid the travel, if you can avoid the
lodging cost, you can avoid the meal cost, those are the
things that run it through the roof.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm.
JUDGE TINLEY: A lot of times, the -- the
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registration or buy-in is considerably reduced also for those
kinds of events, and -- and you can create a lot of
efficiencies with that, and we need to look at that a whole
lot stronger, in my opinion.
MS. HARGIS: Well, we have -- well, there's not
that many folks on Incode, but those of us that are on
Incode, we bought that $1,000-a-year student training, and
those of us that are on Incode, and my staff especially,
we're going to those webinars, and I'm having them listen to
those in between when, you know, they finish their work
and -- and so that they understand the different ones. And
that's working out really well. Eva's department, Mindy, all
of us are using that now. I don't know -- I'm not
knowledgeable on the training seminars, of whether they're on
webcast from the other departments. We'd have to find that
out. But, you know, I think that's something to be looked
I at.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I can tell you this; that if
I can meet the standards of the state sitting in this room,
I'm here. I'm not going anywhere else ever again if we can
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I do that.
MS. HARGIS: The only other department that -- that
we need to look at, and you're going to get a report from him
anyway, but that is the Juvenile Detention Center. And I
want to kind of talk about that one, because I'm not as
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concerned as I probably would be otherwise. In the Juvenile
Detention Center, we have been at capacity pretty much now,
and because of that, when we budgeted for food and for
housing them, we didn't budget for 100 percent occupancy.
However, we've been at 100 percent occupancy -- is Kevin
here? Kevin? He's not here yet? -- pretty much the whole
month of March and into April, so he's going to run out of
food money probably in the next two months. However, he is
also at about 75 percent of the revenue for the year already
through the month of March. So, what -- what I suggest we do
is that we will have enough revenue there that we did not
budget for that we can budget for and then put that back in
our food line item, so we'll be fine. He's way ahead on the
revenue because of having that many -- we had -- we had a lot
of Kerrville kids, but the last couple of weeks we had, like,
12 from other counties. And so, you know, that's bringing in
a lot of money. And we also pay ourselves, so he's way ahead
on his money in that regard, so I think we'll be fine. So,
if you looked at his, but he is going to run out of money for
food and other areas. I'm very disappointed, personally,
that we have that particular problem. I wish we didn't have
that many kids in there, but we do.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: May I ask a question,
Ms. Hargis, aside from the juvenile side of it? I understand
what you're talking about. I'm looking at the Sheriff's
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budget. I'm looking at particularly the line item on vehicle
gas and oil, and I see that as a result of what's taken place
in the marketplace, the Sheriff's expenditure on vehicle gas
and oil is -- he still has 77 percent of his budget
remaining, which means that he's 27 -- about 27 percent over
where he should be at this time of the year. The question
is, is that pretty well the case in other departments where
we got fuel?
MS. HARGIS: Pretty much. Keep in mind, though, we
only have five months. That's another five-month issue.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay.
MS. HARGIS: We had --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Road and Bridge has
76 percent left.
MS. HARGIS: The only problem with Road and Bridge,
we don't want to get too anxious with them, is that -- and
Leonard is here. He uses a lot of gas in the summer months
doing -- doing the repaving.
JUDGE TINLEY: Sealcoat.
MS. HARGIS: So his is not as much of a good
picture, where the other departments, I think we have a
little bit better -- but keep in mind you're running one
month behind, 'cause we didn't get the March bill yet, so
those are going to be more -- closer, but they still are
over. Remember, we used -- we were conservative and we
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actually brought it down, and so we're doing fine, but it is
also coming up. So, it fluctuates, but I would suggest we
hold onto that, and that's -- that's something that we can
use towards the end of, say, the last quarter.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I understand. I just
wanted to know across the board.
MS. HARGIS: I'm using that where I feel
', comfortable using it, but Road and Bridge is not one where we
want to look at it right now.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
MS. HARGIS: But that is also an area that we can
use. But because of some of the other line items being tight
in his, I'm not real -- again, Rusty's thinking he may go to
some comp time on that. Other than -- you know, other than
that, I think, again, we're doing really well for the first
six months. I'm pleased. We've had to move a little bit of
money around, but I think, all in all, we're doing well.
There's Kevin; I'm sure he'll talk about his situation.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Jeannie, before you leave, I'm
on Page 69.
MS. HARGIS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Capital Projects, 2008. Are
those -- just help me understand that, what I'm looking at.
MS. HARGIS: Let me get to Page 69.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: 69.
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MS. HARGIS: I don't have a Page 69. Are you in
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, I'm in Fund 16.
MS. HARGIS: Okay. Mine are numbered -- because of
the different funds, they start over again. Okay. This is a
non-budgeted fund. This is a capital fund that you budgeted
when you began the fund. This is where we have the Ag Barn
and the windows, and we haven't spent the money there yet.
We also have some money left for our computer work, but
this -- this is your -- the loan that we got, that we have
had no activity in that so far other than putting actual
walls in the Ag Barn and so forth, and then doing the front
lawn. So, we're coming in under in a lot of those areas. I
wanted to make sure that we had all the bills in for six
months so that we can look at those and see, you know,
where -- where we have extra money. We have interest income
we might be able to use in some areas, and I have some
suggestions with that, but I wanted to see what the windows
came in at first, to see -- that's our big-ticket item. The
other big-ticket item is the Ag Barn.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Where are windows on this one?
MS. HARGIS: The windows are under the courthouse.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: In that thirty --
MS. HARGIS: That 16-675-563. And, again, there's
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no budget in here, because you don't make a -- you made the
original budget and that's it, so it doesn't show up on this
statement.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But -- okay, on the courthouse,
on 563 --
THE WITNESS: Mm-hmm. We spent so far,
year-to-date, $34,040.81.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's on the electrical and
all the courthouse yard stuff?
MS. HARGIS: We're way under on that. Remember, we
had about 100,000 set aside for that. Tim has done an
excellent job on keeping all of the things that he had way
under budget, and we've even paved the road out here.
MR. BOLLIER: Mm-hmm.
MS. HARGIS: And so we're doing really well with
those funds, and we are earning --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: If you can call that paving.
MS. HARGIS: Not a lot -- huh?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: If you could call that
~ paving.
MR. BOLLIER: Splattering. Splattering,
Commissioner.
JUDGE TINLEY: Sealcoating.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Where's the -- I guess when we
did that project, we set aside --
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MS. HARGIS: 100,000.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- 500,000 for the Ag Barn
project. Where's that money in here? Where do I see that
sum?
MS. HARGIS: It's not going to show up in this
budget. I'll have to run you the original.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. I guess that's my
question, was why it wasn't --
MS. HARGIS: Yeah. It's not, because it's -- it's
a one-time budgeted situation, and you don't -- it's --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's there. These are things
that we're actively spending right now; we know how much it's
going to be.
MS. HARGIS: Right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right.
MS. HARGIS: So, a capital budget is different from
your regular, and keeps rolling, so you have -- you budget it
one time.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any more questions on the six-month
financials?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Looks good.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, ma'am. We appreciate it.
Let's go to our 10 o'clock item at this time. I will recess
the Commissioners Court meeting and I will open a public
hearing for the final revision of plat for Vistas Escondidas
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(The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed
at 10:01 a.m., and a public hearing was held in
open court, as follows:)
P U B L I C H E A R I N G
JUDGE TINLEY: Is there any member of the public
that wishes to be heard with regard to the final revision of
the plat for Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates,
Lots 128 and 129, located in Precinct 4? Seeing no one
coming forward, I will close the public hearing for the final
revision of plat for Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs
Estates, Lots 128 and 129.
(The public hearing was concluded at 10:01 a.m.,
and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was
reopened.)
JUDGE TINLEY: And I will reconvene the
Commissioners Court meeting, and let's go to Item 7, if we
might. Presentation to review the insurance expense for
fiscal year '08-'09. Ms. Mabry? Ms. Hargis?
MS. HARGIS: Judge, before we go to that one, I'm
sorry, there is a point that I need to bring up on -- on the
budget that -- on the annual financials.
JUDGE TINLEY: Are we back on Item 6?
MS. HARGIS: Item 6. First of all, I wanted to
report to you that we did receive kind of a bonus from the
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.state of Texas. We had got a sales tax -- one-time sales tax
amount of $106,340. There was a $22 million airplane sold at
the airport, and we were the recipient of that -- of those
sales tax. We do have a letter from the State. Okay. The
other thing -- so that kind of increases, and we weren't
running that far behind, so if we did, that kind of takes us
over. The other thing that I was asked to remind you about
is the budget that we have on the airport, and that -- the
new one that is being submitted to us is probably 100,000
more or 120,000 more than we had last year.
JUDGE TINLEY: Total?
MS. HARGIS: Total.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
MS. HARGIS: And -- and we have been asked for some
additional funds out of this year's finances for $200,000, so
I just wanted the Court to be aware of that. I haven't
heard -- but if you don't have copies of the budget that were
submitted on the airport from last year, I would suggest that
y'all review that. What we -- you know, we said we would do
with the City on that, both in the Animal Control -- you
know, we take over 100 percent of that this year, so there's
quite a bit of, you know, extra cost there that we need to
review. So, I did not have a chance to make a copy of all
this for y'all, but I will get it to you so you can review
that.
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We did -- going back to Item 7, we did a little
Power Point presentation for you to try to explain the health
insurance to the best of our knowledge. We have used not
only the data that we collect in the financial statements,
but also Ms. Hyde and Ms. Williams have prepared kind of a
cumulative spreadsheet as well as a fiscal year-end
spreadsheet. We've kind of used that as a background. So,
if you'll kind of go with me, this is the -- you know, how
the money moves in the group insurance plan. Originally,
Ms. Hyde had asked for us to budget in a range of 275
employees; however, we don't have that many employees, so we
didn't budget but -- and then the insurance agent also gave
us another parameter, which was the ceiling that he wanted us
to use. In other words, the upper amount of money that they
felt we would use was 2,213,383. The floor, or the minimum
amount that they thought we would use, was 1,847,352. The
amount we chose to budget was 1,834,306.
We based this -- we had 264.5 active employees, and
at the time that we budgeted, we had 240 employees that were
actually on the roll. And rather than budget an additional
400,000, which would have been another penny and a half, I
used the 240, and then opted to use the money that we had in
the health reserve, which I had talked with Gary Looney, our
insurance agent at the time. The premiums and claims -- our
budget includes what we take from the employees' paychecks.
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What we budget is based on that employee. We get additional
funds from dependent coverage, retiree payments, stop loss
reimbursements, and COBRA payments. Now, the significance of
that, I would like to -- to kind of stay -- when we had the
floor of a million, eight, Mr. Looney explained to me that
when he uses the floor for us to budget, that he anticipates
we will get that additional revenue to bring us up pretty
close to the ceiling, and that's the reason why he doesn't
suggest that we -- or didn't suggest this year that we budget
the ceiling. So, that's the reason why we budget the floor,
and then we use the money we get for dependent care coverage
and these other items to get to the -- to the ceiling.
Here are the current numbers. We've spent
$1,207,464.85 for the claims. The fixed costs, that's what
we pay to the carrier to do our work, 193,453.70, for a total
of 1,400,918.55. That's what we have spent through the
middle of April. We actually twicked this and actually knew
what we spent through that time period. The budget, again,
doesn't account for the dependents coverage of 136,348.50.
$20,070 was received from retiree payments. Employee leaves
of 322.50, COBRA of 1,557.15, and due to Eva's outstanding
work there, we have received back on our claims $261,055.38,
for a total that we actually spent out of our budget,
981,585.02. Now, we're guessing for the rest of the year --
and Eva and I spoke a little bit about this. We've actually
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spent 981. The budgeted amount so far through the middle of
April was 993, so we're a little bit under, not a lot. We
have a few more items that we -- we do pay out. We have a
little bit of interest income. We've transferred out $960
for COBRA, so it actually brings us to a total of 980,399.91.
We project that we will be at 1,809,969.09 as far as the
budget is concerned. This is the budgeted amount. This is
the projected amount and the difference. It's not a lot, but
it is under budget. In addition to that 24,000, the first
two months of the year, we tried actually transferring money
that was from positions not filled, and so we have a balance
in our reserve account of 102,704; that's actual cash sitting
there that we need to spend. So, we have $127,041 over and
above our budget to spend for insurance.
JUDGE TINLEY: You -- for positions that weren't
filled, but for which there were --
MS. HARGIS: Budgeted funds.
JUDGE TINLEY: -- funds allocated in a budget for
I, health care costs for employees, you just slid that over into
a reserve account?
MS. HARGIS: We did. We sent it over to a reserve
account. You actually have a Fund 11 in your financials
today, and that Fund 11 is a health reserve account. It was
a -- very much of an accounting nightmare for the three of
us, and -- and was very difficult to monitor, so we're going
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to try to come up with a different way of perhaps doing
something like that this next year. Because the only way
that the money is moved out of the budget line items is
through a -- an employee actually sitting in that seat and
actually being paid a salary. Otherwise, the budgeted money
remains in the line item. So, between Eva and Mindy and. I,
we have some suggestions that we'll bring up at the current
budget as to ways we might get around that this year.
We are proposed to stay in budget, but that's a big
crystal ball. I don't know if we're going to have some more
really big claims. The trend that I've looked at is -- and
Commissioner Williams actually brought this up, I guess, a
couple of months ago; that at one point in time you did put
money into insurance, and I looked back, and in 2003-2004,
you actually did go over by $283,000, and it worked itself
down. And so there's a fluctuation on the insurance. What
we find is, we're on a calendar year for the insurance, so
what happens is October, November, and December, everybody
rushes to the doctor to get those claims done. In addition
to that, we had some really high claims in those months. It
is traditionally, from what I can see -- 'cause these books
only go back to 2003-2004. The trend in the summer is down.
Every year that I look at it, there's very -- the claims go
down significantly during the summer months. People are
traveling; you know, they don't want to go to the doctor.
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picks back up again in September, because they know that it's
going to -- their calendar year's going to end, and kids go
back to school. I can't guarantee that we aren't going to
have another person have a major illness, and that's --
that's a big crystal ball. You know, in the --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But even --
MS. HARGIS: Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- with major illness, it still
is $40,000 or 50,000.
MS. HARGIS: No, we went to 70,000.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: 70,000?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Stop loss of 70?
MS. HARGIS: We did, so that is actually
significantly increased.
MS. WILLIAMS: Sixty.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sixty?
MS. HARGIS: 60,000. I can't hear you. Even on
the phone, I have a hard time hearing. 60,000. So, that's
an additional 10,000 that we picked up on every claim. And
we have had about four or five major claims, so that means we
have $50,000 of that we wouldn't have had last year.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
MS. HARGIS: So that's something we might want to
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what you will with it, is that we form a committee that we
didn't have last year of myself and Mindy and the Judge; we
meet with the insurance agent and come up with other, you
know, variables to present, perhaps, ways of putting it on
the books from different types of policies. Because we may
be coming to the point where it's cheaper for us -- and she
knows more about insurance than I do -- for to us buy a
policy that just pays a premium rather than take a stop loss.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: I like your wording on that,
but I think it needs to be a workshop. The whole Court needs
to be present for it. Insurance is such a big-ticket item
that I think we all need to be involved in that one.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I would prefer a workshop
I on it .
MS. HARGIS: But we definitely --
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But on those topics right
there, talk about what you mean.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What options are available.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: What other options, other than
I what we have.
MS. HARGIS: Well, and what the cost is, and get
the preliminary -- we had a visitor. (Laughter.) What we --
what we need to deal with. I mean, Commissioner Oehler's
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right, this is a very big-ticket item, and it's something we
need to be very concerned about. And I hope that this has
helped some. I -- I would like to see it better than it is.
But I'm concerned that we're going to go over, even
totally -- totally, as far as all claims are concerned, we
probably will go over the ceiling. And there's -- you know,
there's really not any way I can predict that. Some years
you have good years, like the year before we didn't have but
one or two, and -- and so we were fine. We still have --
but, you know, we have to -- my biggest problem last year was
we were giving huge raises; we were already going up
significantly on the tax rate. So --
(A dog entered the courtroom.)
MS. HARGIS: I looked and I saw him, and I went,
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: He's coming to check on his
I health care.
MS. HARGIS: Wanted to know how his health care was
doing. (Laughter.) Y'all didn't see it, did you?
(Discussion off the record.)
MS. HARGIS: They have health insurance for animals
now; a lot of people are getting it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any possibility we could get a -- a
totally employee-funded supplemental for vet services added
to our -- to our grocery list?
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MS. HARGIS: Anything you want, I'm sure we can
supplement.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Definitely need a stop loss.
MS. HARGIS: So...
JUDGE TINLEY: Any -- any questions for Ms. Hargis
or Ms. Mabry on the presentation?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Given the imponderables of
health insurance each year and the unknowns, I think for a
six-month report, this is pretty good.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you, ma'am. We appreciate
that. Let's move to Item 8; consider, discuss, and take
appropriate action on approval of audit reports for Kerr
County Justice of the Peace Precincts 1 through 4.
MS. MABRY: Good morning. I conducted the audits
of J.P.'s 1 through 4. The audit period is last fiscal year,
so it ended 9-30-08. Just a few items. They all did really,
really well and were very welcoming to me, and I do
appreciate their cooperation with everything. There were a
few issues. Most of them were corrected immediately, such as
security of cash funds. It's just a few internal control
issues that were -- that were corrected immediately. There
were very few clerical errors, very few major issues, and all
of these things were either corrected then or will be
corrected by the next audit period.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any questions on the audit reports
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for the J.P.'s? Thank you, ma'am. We appreciate your
report.
MS. MABRY: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: Oh, you got a question?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, I like them. They're good.
I like the way -- the format of the report.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's move, then, to Item 9;
consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on the annual
audit of Chapter 19 Voter Registration funds for the period
October 1, 2007 through February 28th, 2009. Ms. Hargis?
MS. HARGIS: This is one of the -- of the first
audits that we were doing on Diane's office, because she has
several different departments under her authority.
(Commissioner Baldwin left the courtroom.)
MS. HARGIS: This particular one is Voter
Registration funds that she receives to offset some of her
voter registration costs. And I have given you a background
on this, because I don't know that you've seen this before,
and the scope of the work and what we did. We found
everything to be pretty much in order. We made a few
suggestions for the future, to be even more organized than
they already were. I found the internal control to be -- to
be very good, and I'm looking forward to working with them
again on the next one, which will be the vehicle side of her
department. Any questions?
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JUDGE TINLEY: Is there a need for us to actually
approve this report?
MS. HARGIS: No. This -- as you can see, and I do
want -- and Diane wants me to be sure to point out to you,
this particular fund, voter registration, is under her
purview and is under her direction and her budgeting, and you
have no authority over that. But I do feel that you needed
to know that it was being taken care, of as well as the
taxpayers, so that's the only reason we audited it.
JUDGE TINLEY: So, it's presented as an
informational item?
MS. HARGIS: That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Thank you. Any questions for
~ Ms. Hargis on that matter?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No, thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's proceed to Item 11, if we
might; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for
acceptance of the final revision of plat for Vistas
Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates, Lots 128 and 129, and
located in Precinct 4.
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: Mr. Odom?
MR. ODOM: Thank you, Judge. Mr. Nelson owns Lots
128 and 129 and desires to combine these lots into one lot,
128R. This revision of plat, again, is in Precinct 4. At
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this time, we ask the Court to accept the final revision of
plat for Lots 128 and 129 Vistas Escondidas de Cypress
Springs Estates.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So moved.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
approval of the agenda item. Question or discussion? All in
favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. We'll move
to Item 12; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to
release the Western Surety Bond Number 70271788, and accept
the C.N.A. Surety Bond Number 0601-70271788. I'm puzzled as
to why the same number follows the C.N.A. surety prefix.
MS. HOFFER: I don't know; that's how it was
I written.
MR. ODOM: I'm not sure. I don't know.
MS. HOFFER: I don't know. That's how it was
written on the paperwork.
JUDGE TINLEY: Actually, the C.N.A. number is 0601?
MS. HOFFER: Yeah. I don't know if they did the
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MR. ODOM: To the first.
MS. HOFFER: -- the first one. I don't know, but
that shows how it was written.
MR. ODOM: Megan Manor is a subdivision that was
platted in the '80's but never built until a couple of years
ago. Kevin Spraggins did the engineering for Vordenbaum for
Nava Development, Limited. They would like for Misty Lane to
be a County-maintained road. Wayne Wells did an inspection
February the 25th of '08 and noted five deficiencies. These
items have to have been completed to county specs as of March
the 26th of '09.
(Commissioner Baldwin returned to the courtroom.)
MR. ODOM: At this time, we ask the Court to
release the Western Surety maintenance bond and accept a
C.N.A. security bond for $25,086. This new security bond
would be good until March the 26th of 2010.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's sufficient to cover
the work that remains?
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
approval. Question or discussion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
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JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Let's move
to Item 13; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to
release the Letter of Credit for Ranches of Sunset Ridge, and
accept a maintenance bond for a year to finish the remainder
of items to be completed, same located in Precinct 3.
I Mr. Odom?
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir. The Ranches of Sunset Ridge
have a Letter of Credit Number 221, for $313,735 that expired
on the 26th of March of this year. Wayne did a maintenance
inspection on January the 14th of '09. He noted several
deficiencies. We are asking the Court to release the
original letter of credit and accept the maintenance bond
5050114 for $88,681.28. Maintenance bond would be good for
one year and would expire on April the 15th, 2010. At this
time, we ask the Court to release the Letter of Credit 221
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Is this the subdivision on
the end of Wilson Creek Road?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes.
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approval. Question or discussion on the motion? Mr. Odom?
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir?
JUDGE TINLEY: Are there some deficiencies that
need to be accomplished on the original requirements for the
subdivision?
MR. ODOM: That is correct.
JUDGE TINLEY: Is that the reason for the
I maintenance --
THE WITNESS: That's right, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: As to those items that are going to
-- that should have been completed before the maintenance
bond was put in place, then, you're not going to get a
one-year maintenance bond on those items, but some period
less than.
MR. ODOM: It will be -- if they accomplish what
they are -- the deficiencies, then we will go out and we'll
take a look at and release that bond, and we will accept it
for maintenance. But we've come to the Court. These people
have drug their feet. They haven't done the deficiencies
that were brought out, and so we're trying to get grass --
one of the problems is 50 percent grass during the drought.
They didn't get anything, and we're just not -- there's some
other deficiencies too with each one, but this is something
that's come up. They've had an opportunity. We -- this is a
way to try to address this, or we will not accept it for
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maintenance; I'll come back to the Court.
JUDGE TINLEY: But a maintenance bond -- and
correct me if my understanding is not correct. We take a
one-year maintenance bond when all the requirements are
completed to insure that they've been done properly, and that
one-year maintenance bond gives us the comfort zone that if
anything goes wrong within this initial one-year period after
completion, we can call on the contractor, and if the
contractor doesn't do it, or the developer, we can then call
on the surety -- on the bond.
MR. ODOM: Right, sir.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. So, if we take a maintenance
bond beginning today, the original requirements are not done
until, let's say, two months from now. We're only getting
ten months protection back on the maintenance bond as to
those items, correct?
MR. ODOM: Correct.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct, but in this situation,
the deficiencies are not structural to the road, I don't
think.
MR. ODOM: No, they're not structural.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: The deficiencies are lack of
grass on the right-of-way and --
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
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MR. ODOM: Grooming, not structural. The
infrastructure itself is well intact. It's just some other
minor things that need to be addressed. We've come to the
Court at this point. We've gone to the bonding company and
all, and the developer, whatever, has drug their feet, and we
just -- we gave an ultimatum; today was the day, and we got
our maintenance bond to that or we would not accept it for
maintenance. It was very simple to me.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The maintenance bond does
run for one full year?
MR. ODOM: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
MR. ODOM: But if they get it complete, then we'll
go inspect it. At that point, then we'll come to the Court
and release it.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just like you do on all
maintenance bonds.
MR. ODOM: Just like all maintenance things. If
'~, they don't do it -- and I would say by the lst of September
on all of them. They've had more than ample time to get the
grass started, and if they don't do it, then it -- certainly,
we have that year, but I'll come to the Court probably in
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay, you cleared up the issue in my
September.
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(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. We'l1 go to
Item 14; to consider, discuss, and take appropriate action
regarding changing positions within the position schedule
within Road and Bridge.
MS. HYDE: Mr. Odom came to me and asked me to help
him with this. It's real simple. We want to -- we want to
change a 14-1 to a 17-1; that's in Line Item 15-600-105, and
then flip it, a 17 to a 14-1 in 15-611-111, so that he can
redo his peoples.
JUDGE TINLEY: There's no budgetary impact?
MS. HYDE: No, sir.
MR. ODOM: No.
MS. HYDE: There's just a change in position, and
we would have to move it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: What are the -- what are the
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not people, just positions.
MR. ODOM: Not people. I can't talk people. What
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I have is a person in 600 in the office that I originally set
up for a 17-1 before it was hired. When the budget came out,
I had a 14-1 instead of the 17-1, and I had the 17-1 in the
611 budget. And I didn't hire all the slots that I had; they
were 14-1 slots, beginners, or someone that was starting with
our maintenance program. So, I filled the 611, and I still
have the money for the 14. I had to hire the 14 -- or she
was hired while I was out --
MS. HYDE: Sick.
MR. ODOM: -- sick.
JUDGE TINLEY: So, what you're doing is moving from
your administration to your -- to your maintenance budget.
You're switching employees.
MR. ODOM: That's -- that's right.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Switching positions.
MR. ODOM: Positions.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah.
MS. HYDE: That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Positions, not employees.
MR. ODOM: And the money is there. There's no
j budget impact at all; it's there.
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department. It's a management decision.
MR. ODOM: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
approval. Question or discussion on the motion?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is an internal decision,
and there's no budget impact to this year's budget, but it
will impact them from now on.
COMMISSIONER
COMMISSIONER
COMMISSIONER
a 14 went to a 17, and
COMMISSIONER
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figure it out.
LETZ: Not next year.
BALDWIN: Sure.
LETZ: 'Cause he got rid of -- went
a 17 went to a 14.
WILLIAMS: Right.
BALDWIN: Just try and watch.
LETZ: Yeah.
Resident soothsayer, do we have?
BALDWIN: Yes, sir.
WILLIAMS: He's got six months to
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Any further question or
discussion on the motion? All in favor of the motion,
signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Gentlemen,
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are we close enough to 10:30? Yes. I'm going to say we're
at 10:30 now, right on schedule, as we always are, and we'll
go to Item 15 and open the bids for courthouse windows and
distribute to appropriate personnel for review and
(Commissioner Williams left the courtroom.)
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Here you go, Judge.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay, first bid that we have is
Dwayne Chessman, d/b/a Wildwood Designs. Base bid,
stipulated sum, 244,935. Alternate 1, deduct 4,750.00.
Additionals, overhead and profit, 20 percent.
Next bid that we have is from Foxworth-Galbraith.
Stipulated sum, $234,400. Alternate 1, deduct 10,000. Bid
time, 60 calendar days. Overhead and profit, an additional
20 percent.
(Commissioner Williams returned to the courtroom.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The third bid that we have is from
White Construction. Stipulated sum, $420,220. Alternate 1,
deduct 7,500. Bid time, 180 calendar days. Additional
overhead and profit, 20 percent.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move we accept the bids and
refer them to Maintenance -- and, Judge, y'all were the two
that did this, didn't you? Weren't you and Tim --
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah, and -- and Peter Lewis
assisted with the specs and -- and some of the bidding
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's -- I'll refer it to you
two. If y'all want, you can bring in whoever you want;
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: I have a motion and a second as
indicated. Question or discussion on the motion? All in
favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign. That motion
does carry. Mr. Trolinger, I get the impression that yours
may be a matter of some length. Yes or no?
MR. TROLINGER: No. This is just to kick off the
I matter.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Let's quickly go to Item 16
before our recess; consider, discuss, and take appropriate
action to establish confidentiality agreements between
Information Technology and the offices served by Kerr County
Information Technology. Mr. Trolinger.
MR. TROLINGER: Thank you, Judge. There have been
some issues recently that -- that bring this to light. The
Sheriff has asked me to -- to explore a confidentiality
agreement with each office I.T., Information Technology,
serves. I'd like guidance from the Court on how to proceed.
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Technology policy, but the guidance that I need is the
wording. Should we go to the extreme where we have the FBI's
step-by-step, item-by-item callout of the issues? Or do we
have a more broad, lowest common denominator agreement,
something that might apply to Environmental Health that would
apply to all the offices?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: John, did you -- you said
that the Sheriff requested this?
MR. TROLINGER: I went to the Sheriff and talked to
him a little bit about it, and he brought this up.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So you asked him to request
it, then. So, why would you want confidentiality agreements?
Tell me. Give me a reason.
MR. TROLINGER: Well, we've got criminal justice
information system which applies to a lot of the offices, and
that -- and that's a pretty good agreement that's in place
now, but I feel that I need to assure individual office
holders and department heads that the information that we
hold and access is confidential. We don't -- you know,
Information Technology takes that very seriously, that --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Like -- like the County
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What does that -- what does
that assure, if you're faced with a court order to -- to
provide information?
MR. TROLINGER: I don't understand.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What are you assuring in
that confidentiality agreement if you are faced with a court
order or a -- a law enforcement agency above and beyond the
Sheriff that's coming in looking for information?
MR. TROLINGER: I don't know.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Where does that place you?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess --
MR. TROLINGER: I don't know. That's -- that's why
I need help on actually drafting the agreement, to address
those concerns.
JUDGE TINLEY: Have you -- have you discussed this
at any length with the County Attorney?
MR. TROLINGER: Not specifically, no. But
definitely, you know, the County Attorney would be involved
-- I could see the County Attorney being involved, if it's
the Court's pleasure.
JUDGE TINLEY: I could too.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That's a good start.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess my question -- I don't
understand why we need agreements between departments. I
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mean, we make policy. If it's the policy that we don't share
the information, we don't share the information.
MR. TROLINGER: Okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's a termination type, you
know, violation to me if you do. And I think, to me, that's
the -- I mean, I don't want to get into a situation where
we're having contracts between departments.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's where my thinking was
going.
MR. TROLINGER: I see.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: To me, this is -- you just --
we need to assure other departments that everyone's, you
know, keeping this information confidential. We need to
change our -- add it to our overall policy, to me, and then
-- and make it -- depends on if it's serious enough. If
they're in violation, automatic termination or something.
Or, you know, probably don't want "automatic," but
termination.
I~~ COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What does the I.T. policy
currently say with respect to confidentiality of data?
MR. TROLINGER: Good question. It's -- it's vague.
It does not specifically address the subject.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If it's vague, then let's
strengthen it rather than get into this interdepartmental
agreement type situation.
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MR. TROLINGER: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah, that would be one of the
considerations, I would think, when you sit down and go over
this entire subject matter with the County Attorney. You
know, maybe the conclusion is we -- we may need to amend our
~ policy and forget about the agreement, or we may need both.
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from the County Attorney and tell him what you see are the
issues, and let him start getting his teeth into it. Come
back with a recommendation, and then bring it back to us.
MR. TROLINGER: Good. I will do that. I agree,
the I.T. policy can be strengthened, and hopefully some type
of sign-off that -- I.T. policy currently is not required to
be implemented. It's up to the department head or the office
head to implement the policy, and that might need -- that
might need strengthening also.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think the I.T. policy, once
it's adopted by the Court, every department's obligated to
follow it.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Right.
MR. TROLINGER: Okay, very good.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Exactly. It becomes the
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MR. TROLINGER: Very good. That answers that.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I phrase it that way
because there are some departments, such as the D.A.'s,
that -- you know, or Adult Probation, some of these other
departments that I'm not sure -- I mean, they're not under
~ our authority, but they do use our money. And if they use
our money, they're going to follow our policy, in my mind.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You got it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Also, after you visit with Rex,
!~ you need to make sure this is coordinated, I think, through
Eva, because this is -- I.T. policy is part of our overall
~~, policy.
MS. HYDE: I.T. policy was approved on June 14th of
III 2004. And y'all will get a chance to look at it today,
L because you've got to get updates, and that's one of the
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ticker by it that we need to review it, and is it really what
we want? Because we're not really -- is it really what you
I want?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, certainly, our personnel
policy needs to refer to our I.T. policy, if it's not part of
it. I mean, they certainly need to refer to each other --
MS. HYDE: It's in there.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- that way.
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know if there are violations, and we're serious about people
violating it, that -- it's tied to that, 'cause that's what
the employees sign.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions, comments for
Mr. Trolinger at this point? Let's be in recess for about 15
minutes.
(Recess taken from 10:38 a.m. to 10:56 a.m.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay, let's come back to order, if
we might, from our recess. We'll move to Item 17; consider,
discuss, and take appropriate action to submit a 2009 TRRN
certification letter to AACOG in order to be eligible for any
2009 Homeland Security grants and allow County Judge to sign
same.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved.
'~ COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second.
I~, JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
I approval. Question or discussion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion carries.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's patience.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's move to Item 18; consider,
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discuss, and take appropriate action to change the date for
employee evaluations from May 25, 2009, at 1:30 p.m., to the
following day, May the 26th, 2009, at 1:30 p.m. Commissioner
Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, thank you very much.
It's my understanding that May 25th is a holiday, so I don't
think we'll be here to do our duties and represent the great
taxpayers of Kerr County on that particular day. So, we're
going to have to -- and that's a regular meeting day, too,
~ isn't it?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes.
', COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, it is.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So we're going to move --
move it to Tuesday, May 26th, at 1:30, the evaluations of our
employees.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for
~ approval. Question or discussion? All in favor of the
motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: That motion does carry. Let's go to
Item 19, six-month review of the Juvenile Detention Center.
Mr. Stanton?
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MR. STANTON: Good morning. I understand I missed
the County Auditor's presentation, but --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Were you here?
MR. STANTON: No, sir.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, you missed it, then.
MR. STANTON: I walked in right at the tail of it.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I guess you'd like one too,
being as you're going to do this.
MR. STANTON: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Have we changed the court
date also? Court date also to the 26th?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, I can't do everything
for y'all.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: One for the clerk.
MR. STANTON: Basically, what you're looking at is
a breakdown of the -- our monthly totals for each month. As
far as the revenue is concerned. Comparing the '07 to '08,
the '07 -- what we did in '07-'08 is in the green columns.
And the white columns, '08-'09, is what we've done so far
this year. Right now, we're 27.81 percent ahead of where we
were at last year as far as on the billable days, and also on
the juveniles, we're about 27.86 above where we were at last
year as far as the number of kids that we're dealing with.
So far this year, we've billed out $235,260 to all the
counties that we contract with for services. And if we keep
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going at the -- if we keep going at the rate that we're
going, the number down at the very bottom, the 470,520,
that's without counting April into it. In April, this
current month, the current -- yeah, April, that we're
currently in, it looks like we're going to bill out right at
$65,000 for the month of April, which will increase our
projected totals to around $514,525 in revenue. And I know
the big question is always, well, how much is Kerr County
paying and how much is the other counties paying? And this
is a breakdown of that.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Pretty good assumption on
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Kevin, let me ask a
question. How much is Kerr County paying and how much is the
other counties paying?
MR. STANTON: So far this year, Kerr County has
paid in $181,890. They've detained 213 juveniles, at a total
of 2,021 days. The surrounding contracting counties that
we've dealt with has -- has paid in $53,280.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Have we even increased the
number of contracts in the last year?
MR. STANTON: We have, sir. Yes, we have. We've
increased the number of contracts, and we've also increased
the number of -- of kids that we're getting from the other
counties. Right now, this morning, when I left the facility,
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we had 24 kids in the facility..
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that max?
MR. STANTON: Twenty-five is the max. We had 24
this morning. We've averaged -- for the month of April,
we've averaged 24 kids a day in the facility, and it's been
about a 60/40 split as far as Kerr County and the surrounding
counties for this past month. So, we are seeing a big
increase in the amount of juveniles we're receiving from
other counties. In fact, we got a phone call this morning.
I think Uvalde's taking a kid out and bringing a kid in;
they're just swapping spaces, 'cause they don't want to lose
their space. So --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you a question.
As I look at the John Deere -- I can't get my mind off John
Deere tractors when I look at this thing. But you -- you
started your comments by, "If we keep going like we're going
today," then all these numbers are going to happen. And
we're operating at the max, basically. So, you think -- you
think that we're going to keep going with the 24 and 25
number?
MR. STANTON: No, sir. No.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You don't think that at all?
MR. STANTON: The numbers that you're looking at
and the projected estimates are based on if you took the
first seven months that we've dealt with and divided that,
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and then -- and then spread it out over the rest of the year,
that gives us an average of about 14 or 15 kids per day.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see, okay.
MR. STANTON: Out there. So, the projected revenue
that we're looking at, the $514,000, is -- is based on about
a 14- or 15-kid average.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, you know, I've always
been kind of curious; I know that -- well, I won't go there,
but is there a -- is there a seasonal thing with juveniles
and them getting into trouble? I mean, like, in the
summertime, are they sliding down Ingram Dam and smoking more
dope or what?
MR. STANTON: Well, if you look at the -- the John
Deere sheet, it --
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
MR. STANTON: If you look at '07-'08, and the
months are out to the side, and you can kind of look at that.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
MR. STANTON: During June, July -- summer months,
it kind of decreases a little bit.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Decreases a little bit?
MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. We go down a little bit
during the summertime, and we go down a little bit toward the
end of December and beginning of January, around
Christmastime we don't have quite as many kids. But, you
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know, the funny part -- and we -- we have stayed really --
and October of this year was a really big month, and then
March and April, these last two months, have really been.
We've never -- we've never billed out -- if you look on the
sheet, we've never billed out over $50,000 in a month, and
we're going to have back-to-back months of over $50,000
billables in the next two months. So, you know, hopefully
it'll stay high and like it is. It's a good thing and a bad
thing. I mean, we got more kids getting in trouble, but
it's -- our population's staying up.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: How's your employment
situation, your J.D.O.'s? Are you okay?
MR. STANTON: Everything's fine. We haven't --
we've lost one employee, I believe, this year, and we've
replaced him. It might have been last year, end of last
year.
JUDGE TINLEY: That's -- that's absolutely super.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's a miracle.
MR. STANTON: Yeah. We've got --
JUDGE TINLEY: That's always been a tough
proposition for you. It's pretty high stress.
MR. STANTON: We've got a really great group of
people out there right now, and they're really dedicated to
the kids and really work hard with the kids and stuff. One
of the T.J.P.C. -- I know we love talking about them. One of
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their mandates this next year, come September 1st, is that it
-- and this is not a big deal, but we have to report -- I
have to report to the governing board once quarterly, so I'll
be coming more than often -- more often than I have been, at
least once every three months to report. And they've got an
outline of different things like how many escape attempts
we've had, how many assaults on staff, those types of things,
that list of what we have to report to the governing board,
so I'll be preparing those.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Who is the governing board?
MR. STANTON: You are.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I am?
MR. STANTON: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That's scary.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Whew.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We're in trouble.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Man.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. Scaring you?
MR. STANTON: And last, but not least -- and this
is just something for you guys -- it's a breakdown of the
counties. It's a breakdown of how many kids we've gotten
from each county, what -- what's projected for rest of the
year. The total detention days, the males, females, how many
felony referrals we've got. We've seen about a -- oh, about
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year, about a 31 percent increase in misdemeanor referrals
over the past year's -- last year, and then if you look at
the bottom, that's just a breakdown by county of how many
kids we've received, billable days, and how much we've billed
out for those counties.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is anybody -- any of these
counties slow to pay?
MR. STANTON: Maverick County was, but we haven't
really received too many kids from Maverick County any more.
That was the -- that was the one county that we were having
problems with, but we -- we've only received, I think, two
kids from them so far this year.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's Eagle Pass, Texas?
MR. STANTON: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Uvalde seems to be a
frequent user of your services.
MR. STANTON: Yes, sir, we get a lot of kids from
Uvalde. Kendall County is increasing a little bit so far
this year. Llano. Llano's -- Llano's increased by over
200 percent from what they were last year.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other questions for Mr. Stanton?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, no, not from him, but
for you, probably. If -- the reason for my question of
counties not paying, wouldn't that be like if -- if we were
going to start feeling a financial crunch in Texas,
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wouldn`t -- wouldn't this possibly be one of the areas that
you might see it? 'That -- a county paying a little late, at
least, that kind of thing?
JUDGE TINLEY: Well, we've had that -- we've had
that issue in some other context where we have performed
services for other counties, and I know there's one fairly
recent instance where the County Attorney got into a dialogue
with -- with the Maverick County officials.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm.
JUDGE TINLEY: Because of some difficulties. And
they've had a tough time, you know. They built a jail down
there, and based upon what they thought the feds had
represented that they were going to fill that thing up and it
was going to be a financial bonanza, and it hasn't turned out
that way. But, yeah, that -- and the other thing that you
see, this seasonal thing that you see in the summertime,
where -- where the usage of the detention facilities drops
off, is -- a couple reasons. Number one, the kids are out of
school, so you don't have truancy issues, one of the
components. Plus they're getting later on in their budget
year and they're starting to run out of money.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay.
JUDGE TINLEY: And -- and because of financial
considerations, they don't -- they don't detain children. I
mean, we see that. Kevin's aware of it. He -- it's
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something you see almost every year. Start of a new budget
year, fresh money, fresh state money that comes in, then they
start ratcheting back up. And it goes down at Christmastime.
Typical.
MR. STANTON: Yes, sir. As far as the expenditure
side of our budget and how that's going, we're right at
50 percent, from what I understand. So, we -- you know, we
should be even a little ahead of that, but because of the
number of kids that we've had in the facility, we've had to
increase our -- the amount of food we've had to purchase and
that kind of stuff. But I'm hoping that it balances out in
the end and we're able to stay within the -- in our
expenditure side of the budget also. I hope that we can do
that. The only thing that's going on out at the facility
that -- that some of you might be aware of and some don't, we
had a boiler issue in the old building that has -- has
decided it didn't want to work any more. You know, we're
going to have to look for guidance from the Court as to what
we want to do with that, whether or not we need to replace
that boiler in the old building, or whether we don't want to.
Tim told me that -- told me that it was going to be right at
$30,000 to replace that boiler in the old building. We did
get -- the only reason we use the old building is for washing
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Thursday and Friday of last week, and the only issue we're
having with that is that we're still trying to figure out how
to vent the dryers correctly as far as getting them outside.
But I think we're going to work on that today and tomorrow,
and we'll get that taken care of.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There's no other purpose
for which that boiler was used in the old building now, with
it being shut down?
MR. STANTON: Right. It was just for the hot water
we were using for washing the clothing.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We may want to wait and see
what shakes out in Austin with something like that.
JUDGE TINLEY: That would be my thinking.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good to see this thing
stabilized, Kevin. Thank you.
MR. STANTON: Thank you. I mean, we just take the
kids we get in from the counties, and so we're just -- we're
lucky that we're able to do that. But we've gotten a lot of
good comments as far as from other counties as far as us
being able to -- we've started helping the other counties as
far as with -- with physicals and dental appointments and
psychological assessments and those types of things, and they
seem to be really -- that seems to be a big draw for a lot of
counties, especially out-of-counties, because they have to
come and travel all the way here and pick their kid up and
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take them back for their appointments and those types of
things, where we'll be able to transport them to our doctors
and then we just bill the counties for those services. So,
that's -- that seems to be a really big help to a lot of
counties, and I think that's only one of reasons they seem to
come back to us.
JUDGE TINLEY: Other transportation, what are we
doing there?
MR. STANTON: As far as?
JUDGE TINLEY: Are we transporting children? Are
we going to pick up children, or --
MR. STANTON: No, sir. No, they bring -- they
bring them to us. The only transports we do for other
counties is -- is to and from doctor's appointments, and
those are local doctor's appointments and dental
appointments, yes, sir. The only other transport we do is
for Kerr County, itself, and we bring the kids to and back
and forth from court.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any more questions for Mr. Stanton?
Good job, Kevin. Thank you.
MR. STANTON: Thank you.
JUDGE TINLEY: We appreciate it. Let's move to
Section 4 of the agenda, if we could, please. Payment of the
bills.
25 ~ COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move we pay the bills.
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded for payment
of the bills. Any question or discussion on the motion?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I have one question of the
Auditor, if you know. Page 17, under Indigent Health Care,
I'm just curious as to what the circumstances might be where
we would be doing hospital outpatient at the Hill Country
Memorial Hospital for $6,000 on indigent health care, as
opposed to maybe doing that here. That's my question.
MS. HARGIS: I can't answer that. I don't know
that we -- if they send them somewhere from here, they
transport them to another hospital, we end up paying, 'cause
we do --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Mindy's got her hand up.
MS. WILLIAMS: There have been instances where it
may be an emergency situation that the -- the individual is
qualified for indigent health care; they're closest to that
hospital and they can't transport them over here, so they
just take them over there.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
MS. HARGIS: But there's also procedures that we
don't do here, and they'll transport them to another
hospital.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
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in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Do we have
any budget amendments?
MS. HARGIS: No.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any late bills?
MS. HARGIS: No.
3. Do I hear a motion that those reports be approved as
presented?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second.
JUDGE TINLEY: Motion made and seconded that the
indicated reports be approved as presented. Question or
discussion on the motion? All in favor, of the motion,
', signify by raising your right hand.
(The motion carried by unanimous vote.)
JUDGE TINLEY: All opposed, same sign.
(No response.)
' JUDGE TINLEY: The motion does carry. Section 5 of
the agenda, reports from Commissioners in connection with
their liaison/committee assignments. Commissioner Letz?
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comment earlier that was accurate about the budget going up
next year, which increases our share. The main reason or
component of that -- and I think there's really two, but the
biggest one is they wrestled quite a bit at the last meeting
about a reserve fund that they want to start building up.
That would then take the City and the County out of the
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routine type grants that we do have them coming on board
almost every year, that that funding is built into the budget
so they can start buying -- I can't remember the extent, but
the reserve fund built up so they that they can anticipate a
little bit more into the future. And the other thing --
component going up, I believe they are recommending an
increase to the salary of the --
JUDGE TINLEY: Manager.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- Manager, which is
appropriate based on, you know, the information that I'm
aware of, what they agreed to come on at.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I agree with that.
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received a little.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: But that's kind of the main
one. And the other item that we talked about, I think you're
all aware of the acceleration of the Phase 2 of the
drainage-slash-runway project. Well, that is coming in, and
we're all aware that that's an unexpected $200,000 request.
The -- it's a 95/5 grant, as opposed to a 90/10 that we were
anticipating. We were anticipating having to spend 300,000,
400,000 next year, so while it's unexpected, it's half of
what we thought it was going to be long-term. Doesn't change
what -- you know, where the funding has to come from. But
those are just a little bit of update on those two items.
MS. HARGIS: The management contract?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Management contract is the
same, I think, isn't it?
MS. HARGIS: But they renewed it.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: They renewed it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, renewed the management --
the contract with the City, and it was no change in the
amount, but --
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: But they're going to review
it again more seriously this year.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. They took out --
certain items were removed from it. You know, it doesn't --
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right.
MS. HARGIS: No, the amount stayed the same,
251,000. That stayed the same.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Oehler?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Just a little bit. Ag Barn,
I don't know if anybody's been out there lately, but all the
indoor arena panels have been repainted. We had somebody
that kind of got into a situation and they needed to do some
community service, and painted all of that indoor arena. It
looks good, a lot of painting around the outside. And I
believe that Tim's new maintenance shop is pretty well
complete that's in the old horse barn, with -- including the
cage for some for his tools and things that he can lock up
and leave it, try to keep people from stealing. And, of
course, I continue to work with Animal Control on a regular
basis on various things that go on. And that's about it.
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JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Baldwin?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just have one comment,
Judge. The Historical Commission -- I saw the whining going
back and forth amongst that group last week of, should the
County do the maintenance of the building and all that? And,
of course, I agree. We own the darned thing; we should be
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taking care of it. But Dr. Luther hasn't seen fit to come to
mention anything to me yet, but he's spoken to everybody in
the great state of Texas about it, and now I see that he's
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, we own the building; I
think we need to take care of it, and I also think that we
need to screen who uses the facility as well. And we'll get
back -- get this back on the table here pretty quick, as soon
as the doctor and I have a visit.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Working on your liaison
duties there, are you?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, sharpening things up,
baby.
JUDGE TINLEY: Anything else?
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do you want to trade?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No, thank you.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You got -- you don't have
the library any more; you got room.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No, I'm still on there.
Whether I want to be or not.
JUDGE TINLEY: Commissioner Williams?
i COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't have a lot, Judge,
but I just happened to notice a little missile from TAC here,
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that Senate Bill 700 by Senator Patrick, the revenue cap
bill, automatic rollback elections, is on the Senate intent
calendar for today, even as we speak, right at this moment.
F.Y.I.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Has the House done anything
with that, or is it Senate first?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Senate first, I think.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think Senate's doing it
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And so if they pass it out
of there, it'll do the same thing, go to the House?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Go to the House.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Committees and all that
stuff.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Nothing on AACOG, Judge.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: One other -- someone brought up
about the airport -- the library. I just thought it was an
interesting bit of information on the -- Mr. Luther's
comments on the old bowling alley, which I didn't know it was
an old bowling alley. I don't know if y'all read that. He
was asked by Councilman Gross to do an evaluation of the
historical significance of the old private Schreiner -- the
old building between the historical library and the -- what's
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JUDGE TINLEY: History Center.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: History Center.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: That was interesting, but it
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Herring's article. It was a different perspective. I mean,
we're removed from the library a whole lot, at our own
choice, and where they're going with a lot of that. I'm
glad, but it isn't all roses over there still.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I could give you more
information on the library, but I'll leave that for now.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Have you seen the grand
plan?
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yes, sir. I was there the
I day they presented it. What do you want to know about it?
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COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Looks like about $10 million.
They have a million from H.E.B.
JUDGE TINLEY: I think the million was initially
for the purpose of doing the planning, and maybe
administrative portion of the fundraising, but not beyond
that.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: It's not gone beyond that.
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be on the original group to start hatching that thing, and I
believe at the very first meeting, I indicated that I thought
the former mayor, Mr. Joe Herring, Jr., would be somebody
that should be brought in, and I don't know to what degree
that was acted on or not acted on. Obviously, he feels like
he has some input on it, because he -- he volunteered it.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: We need to pass that plan
around -- or put it on our agenda before we talk about it too
much more and Rex tells us to be quiet.
JUDGE TINLEY: Okay. Any elected officials have
any reports?
MR. EMERSON: I'll go. Very briefly, just, number
one, we have a couple of TV's and DVD players that are going
to be available if another department would like to use them.
Because of the change in technology for law enforcement,
we're essentially going to be moving to a laptop with a flat
screen for looking at all of our law enforcement videos, so
that will free up some TV's and DVD players. And an A.G.
opinion that was hot off the press, sitting on the fax
machine in the break, talks about the definition of "audit"
that we sent off for to try to take the pressure off the
Auditor performing outside audits, and it looks like they
have come back and said that in light of the Texas State
Board of Public Accountancy's view of the Occupations Code, a
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the audits under the Health and Safety Code. So, that frees
up all the CPA's that are auditors to do that without
MS. HARGIS: Just a brief --
JUDGE TINLEY: Auditor?
MS. HARGIS: -- brief -- I've been working with the
Windstream telephone company to determine how many
connections we have in the building and how we might improve
our system, or redo our system, and they're supposed to come
back and give me some kind of a report, which should be ready
by your next meeting. As you know, our voicemail situation
went out this last week, but we also have no more
connections. I mean, we have no more lines to hook up
anybody. And I'm sure you're aware that Constable, Precinct
1, has no land line. He uses his cell phone. He gave up his
land line for Indigent Health Care, because we needed that.
So, we're talking to them about that. There's some options
that we can use, so I just wanted y'all to be aware of it.
And this all came about due to the fact that they kind of
messed up our billing royally, and they're working on that as
well.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other department heads? Speak
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Get her a megaphone.
MS. HYDE: Be nice.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What did you do, kill a
tree?
MS. HYDE: They have your names on them.
JUDGE TINLEY: Let's see. Judge Tinley. Here's
Judge Tinley's.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh, I'm sorry.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Commissioner Williams.
'~ Merry Christmas.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you.
MS. HYDE: Number 1.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: No ribbon?
MS. HYDE: Inside of it is the -- is the policy
books. And I say "books" because I don't know what you guys
want to look at. One of them on the front says it's got
edits and strike-outs and all, and the other one is broken up
into what we've kind of agreed to do, and then the two that
are passed by court order, which was the I.T. in 2004 --
that's the only reason why I know that date -- and then the
FMLA that was passed on the 12th of February. So, if you
guys could give me a little direction on -- I know, Buster,
you helped, and so did you, Bill, when you guys were kind of
talking side by side. And I don't think the computer was
doing real well; it's kind of hard to compare sometimes, at
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least for me. But this way you can have side-by-sides. But
we're almost done. We've only got really four sections,
'cause we can probably combine one. And the biggest thing in
that is going to be the sick pay and the vacation pay.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: For the benefit of the
Court, Ms. Hyde and I met to discuss employee evaluation
strategies and forms and formulas and so forth, and I asked
where we stood with the policy book. We had a couple
workshops, and we got to a certain point and we stopped, and
so it's probably time for to us pick that thing up and finish
it, put it to bed, and that's the reason for the big packet.
MS. HYDE: In the packet there should be a
III one-pager that tells you, like, kind of what's passed, what's
not. Looks like that. And that wa it made it real sim le,
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'cause that first one was like pages and pages that y'all had
to go through of changes. That's it.
JUDGE TINLEY: Other than giving a homework
assignment, do you have any other -- anything else you want
~, to pass on?
MS. HYDE: You've gotten through Phase 2 of the
shots for the Hep A and Hep B, and so we're on the downhill
stretch. We've only got one more to go.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Under these two that are both
in 2/13's, what's -- what's --
MS. HYDE: Down there at the bottom on that front
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COMMISSIONER LETZ: It says Revised 2/12.
MS. HYDE: The other one. The other one.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: This one here.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: This one has scratch-outs and
stuff in it. What's this one do?
MS. HYDE: That first section with the -- with the
wonderful seal of Kerr County on it, those are the ones that
have been tentatively approved or passed by court order. The
second set that still has a lot of gray and stuff in it,
that's the ones that we haven't gotten really finished yet.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, we need to get -- so we
should focus probably on this part at our next meeting, or
meeting after, probably, next meeting.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Or if necessary, set -- be
prepared to set a workshop date to finish it out.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: To finish this one, and then
when we get that, then we'll get the final one we can go
through.
MS. HYDE: If you want, you can look at the I.T.
policy too. It probably -- like you said, it's included in
both of them.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay.
MS. HYDE: I went ahead and typed it up.
COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right.
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COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you about the
shots right quick. Has -- what do we -- we have two rounds
of shots?
MS. HYDE: Three.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Three rounds of shots.
MS. HYDE: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And like -- people like our
Collections people do that, and police officers do that, and
we don't do that. I mean, we could, I guess. But does
everybody participate in that?
MS. HYDE: No, sir. When we got the money, it
was -- first it was because we were concerned about the
money. I was only given $13,000, which was primarily for law
enforcement, Juvenile Probation, and the Juvenile Detention
Center. And then the next level was people like Collections,
the J.P.'s, people that directly dealt with high-risk
individuals. And so, that's how it kind of -- if we want to,
we can add -- next year we could add the rest if we want to.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And so that's all we're
dealing with as far as -- as giving shots, is our people?
COMMISSIONER LETZ: These are rabies shots we're
talking about?
MS. HYDE: We've got -- Adult Probation is doing
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And you -- and you
coordinate all that too for them?
MS. HYDE: Yes, sir, with the Sheriff and his
folks, and then with the different department heads. The
first two shots were the ones that were critical, 'cause they
could only -- they had to be exactly 30 days apart, which
that's the trip, trying -- trying to get that done. 'Cause
they wanted three days to get them, where they could get
them. But if you do it Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday,
which is what most of them wanted, that made the 30 days
going into Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Well, that didn't
go over real well, so we had to really work together on what
they could and couldn't do. This third shot, final shot, we
can do that within four to six months, so we have a
two-month, 60 -- you know, 60-day period.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are we doing -- we're in the
second round right now?
MS. HYDE: We've already had both the first two.
We'll hit the third round and we'll start these shots
probably in June, based on what they want. And they can go
any time within the 60-day period, so it makes it a whole lot
easier for everybody.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Have you had yours?
(Mr. Emerson shook his head negatively.)
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COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are you going to?
MR. EMERSON: Hopefully, I'm on next year's round.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Do you have any contingency
plans for swine flu in the event that our employee group --
MS. HYDE: The C.D.C. hasn't even come out with
what the contingency plan is yet. They know they're supposed
to come out with some stuff this afternoon. They normally do
their stuff late in the day. That way, if there's any
discussions, people have to wait until tomorrow. So, right
now we have nothing. To be just honest, there is nothing.
JUDGE TINLEY: I contacted the Texas Department of
Health and made that inquiry, if there were any plans on
~I contingencies in place or being thought of or proposed and
being staffed locally for that particular situation. I
notice that I had a call back from them. Obviously, I
haven't been able to --
MS. HYDE: Texas Department of Health, like I said,
even Friday, they were talking. If they do staff up, they're
going to be staffing in San Antonio, the bigger areas to
start with. And my response was, Guadalupe County's not too
far away. So -- it's not.
JUDGE TINLEY: I saw a news -- I believe it was a
newspaper report where they'd already given some guidance to
Guadalupe County because of the Cibolo situation. But I was
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more concerned about what this local office had for this
particular area.
MS. HYDE: I know they're looking right now at how
they can purchase enough to get it in here quick enough.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Judge? Ray Buck wants to
I talk.
MR. BUCK: Oh?
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Do you bring us greetings
from the U.G.R.A.?
MR. BUCK: Well, I guess the old political adage --
I brought you rain. Because I get blamed for everything
else, might as well take credit for something good.
COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Come more often.
JUDGE TINLEY: Yeah. Appreciate it, Ray.
MR. BUCK: You're welcome.
JUDGE TINLEY: Any other department heads? Elected
officials? Going once, going twice. We're adjourned.
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STATE OF TEXAS ~
COUNTY OF KERR ~
The above and foregoing is a true and complete
transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as
County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County,
Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth.
DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 1st day of May, 2009.
JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk
BY : __ a~L~ ___ ___
Kathy anik, Deputy County Clerk
Certified Shorthand Reporter
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INDIGENT HEALTH CARE COORDINATOR
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Williams, seconded by Commissioner Oehler, the Court unanimously approved by a vote
of 4-0-0 to:
Approve changing the Indigent Health Care Coordinator position from a 14/1 to a 16/1 on
the County's Step and Grade Salary Schedule effective May 1, 2009, with the funds to
come from unexpended FY 2009 Indigent Health Care Budget line item 50-641-106,
Hospital In-Patient.
ORDER NO. 31275
KERR COUNTY TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR MARCH, 2009
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Accept the Kerr County Treasurer's Monthly Report for March, 2009.
ORDER NO. 31276
QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR QUARTER ENDING MARCH 31, 2009
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Accept the Quarterly Investment Report from Patterson and Associates, as presented, for
the quarter ending March 31, 2009.
ORDER NO.31277
DEPOSITORY CONTRACT WITH SECURITY STATE BANK AND TRUST
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Approve amending Court Order No. 31256, for the extension of Depository Contract
between Security State Bank and Trust and Kerr County, to include the County and
District Clerk funds under LGC Chapter 117.
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FINAL REVISION OF PLAT FOR VISTAS ESCONDIDAS DE CYPRESS SPRINGS
ESTATES
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Oehler, seconded by Commissioners Letz/Williams, the Court unanimously approved by
a vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve the Final Revision of Plat for Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates,
Lots 128 and 129, located in Precinct 4.
ORDER NO. 31279
RELEASE WESTERN SURETY BOND #70271788 AND ACCEPT CAN SURETY
BOND #0601 70271788 FOR MEGAN MANOR
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Williams, seconded by Commissioner Oehler, the Court unanimously approved by a vote
of 4-0-0 to:
Approve releasing the Western Surety Bond #70271788 in the amount of $25,086.00, and
accept the CNA Surety Bond #0601 70271788 for $25,086.00, which will be effective
until March 26, 2010, for Megan Manor, located in Precinct 4.
ORDER NO. 31280
RELEASE LETTER OF CREDIT FOR RANCHES OF SUNSET RIDGE AND
ACCEPT MAINTENANCE BOND
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Oehler, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Approve releasing the Letter of Credit #221 for $313,735.00 for Ranches of Sunset Ridge
and accept a Maintenance Bond #5050114 in the amount of $88,681.28 for one year, to
expire on April 15, 2010, to finish the remainder of the items to be completed, located in
Precinct 3.
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POSITION SCHEDULE FOR ROAD & BRIDGE DEPARTMENT
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Approve changing the positions within the Position Schedule within the Road & Bridge
Department:
Change a 14/1 to a 17/1, Line Item 15-600-105, and change a 17/1 to a 14/1, Line Item
15-611-111, switching positions from the Administration to the Maintenance Budget.
ORDER NO. 31282
BIDS FOR COURTHOUSE WINDOWS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Oehler, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Accept bids for the Courthouse Windows from:
Dwain Cheeseman, dba Wildwood Designs, Base bid stipulated sum, $244,935; Alternate
1, deduct $4,750.00; Additionals, overhead and profit, 20%.
Foxworth Galbraith, stipulated sum $234,400.00; Alternate 1, deduct $10,000; Bid time
60 calendar days; overhead and profit an additiona120%.
White Construction Company, stipulated sum $420,220.00; Alternate 1, deduct $7,500;
bid time 180 calendar days; additional overhead and profit 20%.
And refer to the Maintenance Director and Judge Tinley for review and recommendation.
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2009 TRRN CERTIFICATION LETTER TO AACOG FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR 2009
HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Williams, the Court unanimously approved by a
vote of 4-0-0 to:
Approve submitting a "2009 TRRN Certification Letter" to AACOG in order to be
eligible for any 2009 Homeland Security Grants, and allow County Judge to sign same.
ORDER NO. 31284
EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Approve changing the date for Employee Evaluations from May 25, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. to
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 1:30 p.m.
ORDER NO. 31285
CLAIMS AND ACCOUNTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, came to be considered by the Court
various Commissioners Precincts, which said Claims and Accounts are:
Accounts Expense
10-General	$	197,751.04
14-Fire Protection	$	22,494.77
15-Road & Bridge	$	36,293.55
16-2008 Capital Projects	$	7,250.84
18-County Law Library	$	4,715.74
19-Public Library	$	33,333.33
21-Title IV-E	$	171.10
27-Juv Intensive Prog-State	$	5,000.00
28-Records Mgmt & Preserv.	$	1,443.26
37-Center Point Wastewater	$	3,719.00
50-Indigent Health Care	$	40,022.67
76-Juv Detention Facility	$	10,033.59
77-Leose Funds	$	168.65
83-216th District Attorney	$	2,489.68
TOTAL $ 364,887.22
Upon motion made by Commissioner Williams, seconded by Commissioner Letz, the
Court unanimously approved by vote of 4-0-0 to pay the claims and accounts.
ORDER NO. 31286
MONTHLY REPORTS
Came to be heard this the 27th day of April, 2009, with a motion made by Commissioner
Letz, seconded by Commissioner Oehler, the Court unanimously approved by a vote of
4-0-0 to:
Approve the Monthly Reports from:
District Clerk
Constable Pct #3