1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Special Session 10 Thursday, December 27, 2007 11 9:00 a.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 PRESENT: H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 23 WILLIAM "BILL" WILLIAMS, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 24 BRUCE OEHLER, Commissioner Pct. 4 25 ABSENT: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge 2 1 I N D E X December 27, 2007 2 PAGE 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 3 adopt resolution or proclamation in support of Cowboy Breakfast and all local and area livestock 4 shows and activities & the Hill Country District Junior Livestock Show Association 3 5 1.1 Consider/discuss, approve moving the early 6 voting Location for 2008 March primary election and run-off, if any, to Hill Country Youth 7 Exhibit Center 4 8 1.2 Set public hearing for revision of plat for Lots 5A & 5B of Grotto Springs Ranches I, Pct. 3 6 9 1.3 Set public hearing for revision of plat for 10 Lots 14KR and 15, Falling Water, Pct. 3 7 11 1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to accept Letter of Credit #8014 for maintenance 12 of roads in Lasso Ranch Subdivision, Pct. 3 7 13 1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to authorize Human Resources Department to seek 14 application for open position of department head for Court Compliance Department 10 15 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 16 accept property, transfer property, and approve deeds to correct road easement on Holloman Road 13 17 1.7 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 18 suspending ban on order prohibiting the sale or use of restricted fireworks (i.e., skyrockets with 19 sticks and missiles with fins) in any portion of the unincorporated area of Kerr County 15 20 4.1 Pay Bills 17 21 4.2 Budget Amendments -- 4.3 Late Bills -- 22 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 20 23 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee Assignments 21 24 --- Adjourned 25 25 3 1 On Thursday, December 27, 2007, at 9:00 a.m., a special 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I want to call this 8 Commissioners Court meeting to order. It's 9 a.m., Thursday, 9 December 27th, 2007. Commissioners Court is here, minus the 10 County Judge, and we're in the Commissioners Courtroom in the 11 Kerr County Courthouse. Let's just jump into the agenda; I 12 mean, it's such a long -- 13 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: It is long. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- long agenda, I wanted to 15 go ahead and get into the thing, get started. And so I'm 16 going to call Item 1.8; consider, discuss, and take 17 appropriate action to adopt a resolution or proclamation in 18 support of the Cowboy Breakfast and all the local area 19 livestock shows and activities and Hill Country District 20 Livestock Show Association. Mr. Talarico? 21 MR. TALARICO: Good morning, Commissioners. I 22 believe you all have a copy of the proposed proclamation. If 23 you've had a chance to read it, that's -- you got it. I 24 mean, we put it together and we'd like that read the morning 25 of the Cowboy Breakfast, which is January 11th, on the 12-27-07 4 1 courthouse lawn right before the invocation, get everything 2 started. 3 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Resolution looks good. 4 Move adoption. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion and a second. All in 7 favor, please raise your right hand. 8 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Nobody opposed. 10 MR. TALARICO: Appreciate y'all. Have a happy new 11 year. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. 13 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: You too. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We'll go back to 1.1; 15 consider, and discuss, and approve moving the early voting 16 location for the 2008 March primary election and runoff, if 17 any, to the Hill Country Youth Exhibit Center. 18 MS. PIEPER: Gentlemen, can we change that to just 19 the primary election? Should we have a runoff, it would be 20 back down in our lower level of the courthouse. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Why are we changing it -- 22 any of it? 23 MS. PIEPER: Well, for the primary, the first 24 election, I just think that the election is going to be too 25 heavy to fit everyone down in the lower level. 12-27-07 5 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: What do you typically vote? 3 How many down there for early voting? 4 MS. PIEPER: For this election? 5 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Typically in a general 6 election or a general primary. 7 MS. PIEPER: We hit 1,000 easy, a day. I mean, 8 it'll go anywhere from 600-plus a day. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I don't have a problem; 10 the reason sounds logical to me. Just -- do you think 11 there's any problem on informing the public? 'Cause, I mean, 12 we've kind of started getting everyone used to coming down 13 here, and if we're changing it again -- 14 MS. PIEPER: Right. We're going to -- I'll ask the 15 media, plus we'll do advertising as well. 16 MS. BAILEY: I'm concerned about the posting, since 17 it's an election matter. Since we've posted it as moving 18 it -- moving both to one location, I'm not sure if we can 19 change it. 20 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I was curious about that, 21 yeah. If we set it up for the -- for the primary in one 22 location, that really would be confusing to move it for a 23 runoff, if we had a runoff. 24 MS. PIEPER: I can have both of them out there. 25 That's not a problem. 12-27-07 6 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You're saying that the 2 agenda item reads for both? 3 MS. BAILEY: I think if we're going to approve it, 4 we have to approve this agenda item, or repost it for 5 something else and approve that. 6 MS. PIEPER: I'd rather approve it as it reads, 7 then, 'cause I need to get preclearance from Washington. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We will entertain a motion. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Approval. Is there a 11 second? 12 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I second it. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: There's a motion and second. 14 Any further conversation about it? All in favor, please say 15 aye. 16 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, the right hand -- 18 raising the right hand was the first one. This was "aye." 19 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I need to pay attention, 20 okay. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. Okay, 1.2, set a 22 public hearing for revision of plat for Lots 5A and 5B of 23 Grotto Springs Ranches I, Volume 7, Page 287, Precinct 3. 24 Commissioner Letz? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Quick one. All we're doing is 12-27-07 7 1 setting a public hearing to combine two 25-acre tracts. Move 2 approval. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, what is the public 4 hearing date? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: January 28th at 10 a.m. 6 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 1/28. Second. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion and second. All in 8 favor, please say aye. 9 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. Motion carries. 11 1.3, set a public hearing for revision of plat for Lots 146KR 12 and 15 in Falling Water, Volume 6, Page 300 through 306, 13 Precinct 3. Commissioner Letz? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is the same thing, setting 15 a public hearing for revision of two lots. Set a public 16 hearing for 10:05 a.m. January 28th. Move approval. 17 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion and a second. All in 19 favor, please say aye. 20 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Approved. 1.4, consider, 22 discuss, and take appropriate action to accept Letter of 23 Credit Number 8014 for maintenance of roads in Lasso Ranch 24 Subdivision, Precinct 3. Commissioner Letz. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is one where the -- we 12-27-07 8 1 have a letter of credit in Lasso Ranch Subdivision that 2 expires today for the construction of the roads, and we need 3 to replace it with Letter of Credit Number 8014 that will 4 expire December 26th, 2008, for the amount of 72,000 for the 5 maintenance of the roads. Move approval. 6 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: For maintenance, not 7 construction? 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. Construction has 9 taken place. 10 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have a motion and a 12 second. I have a question. How did -- no, not how did, but 13 what would happen if we weren't meeting today? It's really a 14 question to Road and Bridge. Are they here? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't see them. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And I understand that they 17 chose not to be here because they didn't have any agenda 18 items on here. So -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't -- I think it's a good 20 question. I don't know. Certainly, it probably should have 21 been caught at the last meeting, in my opinion. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It should have been on the 23 last meeting, and get -- in case there was something wrong, 24 these people would have had time to -- 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Correct it. 12-27-07 9 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- correct it. But -- 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The other option -- I mean, the 3 other side of that, the County's at some risk of not 4 having -- if something were to happen and if the road was to 5 fall apart between the expiration of one letter of credit and 6 the new letter of credit being accepted, the letter of credit 7 wouldn't be in place, and the County would be liable for, you 8 know, any conditions of the road. And that is pretty -- 9 that's a, you know, remote possibility that could happen. 10 But to keep a continuous line, that's why it was put on the 11 agenda for today. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just don't want to 13 encourage Road and Bridge staying away when we're dealing 14 with some of their issues. I think they need -- somebody 15 needs to be here during these in case serious questions come 16 up. One -- one letter of credit is 100,000 and the other one 17 is 72. Is there some -- been some work done already? 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The road's built. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The road's completed? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is maintenance. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, we can drop it down -- 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- to a certain amount. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Any other questions? 12-27-07 10 1 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: This is a one-year letter 2 of credit, right? 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: All in favor, please say 5 aye. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion carries. 1.5, 8 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to authorize 9 Human Resources Department to seek application for open 10 position of department head for Court Compliance Department. 11 Commissioner Oehler? 12 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I put this on the agenda. It 13 came to my attention that we really need to go out and get 14 applications to fill Brad's position. Linda Uecker talked to 15 me the other day and said that, really, the collections are 16 really off and we do need another person in there, and that 17 we're actually losing money by not getting it done as quickly 18 as possible. So, I put on it the agenda to authorize the 19 Human Resource Department to seek applications for that open 20 position, and I move for the agenda item. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion and a second. Any 23 questions, besides mine? I have searched the world over, and 24 I can't find anybody that will say that we're losing money at 25 this time. But, definitely, the workload has built up to the 12-27-07 11 1 point to where he -- he's handling everything down there okay 2 right now, but it looks like, you know, you may be -- it may 3 be getting a little out of hand for him. Plus it's -- I 4 understand that -- you remember we used to collect for 198th 5 District, and they chose to go somewhere else and do 6 something else; I don't remember what, but I understand that 7 they are -- there's a possibility -- a large possibility that 8 they will be coming back real soon for us to collect for 9 them. So, I agree it needs to be filled. Now, let me ask 10 you a question, Mr. Oehler. Is -- this is -- we styled this, 11 the verbiage here, to replace the head of the department, 12 Brad's position. 13 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Exactly. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What if it's filled by the 15 fellow that's in there right now? What if -- 16 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We'd have to reconsider. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And then go back and then 18 fill his slot? 19 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We'd fill his slot. But I -- 20 you know, I think that there will be some applications that 21 might fill that -- the head position, but we'll see. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I understand there's 23 all kinds of people out there. 24 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Depends on what we get. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 12-27-07 12 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think, also -- 2 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Nothing would prevent the 3 number two person in that department, you know, from 4 applying. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, not at all. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And then the manager would be 8 under just general authority, able to hire that replacement 9 without having to come to the Court. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: With the slot in the budget. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. But I think that, at -- 12 probably at our next agenda, I'll probably put it on the 13 agenda to discuss this position a little bit. I think if 14 we're going to make any adjustments, changes in how 15 everything works, and what you're talking about, Commissioner 16 Baldwin, the 198th coming in, it's always a good time to look 17 at organizations when we're making personnel decisions. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- 19 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I agree. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I agree. And encouraging 21 some job descriptions. There is -- there is no such thing 22 down there. It's hard to -- like, when personnel people walk 23 in there, it's hard to tell what these people -- what they 24 do. You know, and they really don't handle money. But, 25 anyway, so we have a motion and a second for Item 1.5. All 12-27-07 13 1 in favor, please say aye. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Aye. Motion carries. 1.6, 4 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to accept 5 property, transfer property, and approve deeds to correct 6 road easement on Holloman Road. That would be under the 7 County Attorney's office. Ma'am, take your liberty with us. 8 MS. BAILEY: I don't have any of the documents in 9 my folder, so -- I believe Rex told me someone else had 10 those, but my understanding is that, basically, this is a 11 transfer that will make the actual documents match where the 12 road location is. It's a correction similar to ones that 13 we've done previously, and what we need is approval for that 14 transfer to go forward. And I understand that the paperwork 15 is prepared; it just needs to be executed. 16 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I have the paperwork; Rex 17 gave it to me. And I initiated this thing, actually, through 18 a man named Gene Moretich. What happened was the County 19 realigned the road some years ago, long before any of us were 20 in office. Even before Buster, I think, was in office. And 21 the right-of-way where the road is does not match the 22 property description. It puts the property line on one side 23 real close to the edge of the road, and on the other side 24 it's a long way away. And all this is, is both parties are 25 -- one's giving property, the other one's taking property, so 12-27-07 14 1 that we have the actual survey where the road runs. And 2 there's no money involved in the thing other than, you know, 3 doing the survey and Rex doing the paperwork. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That is fantastic. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So, you know, it's just a -- 6 it's just basically a realignment and putting it in proper 7 survey, rather than having it be off. And the property owner 8 wants to build a fence, and we didn't want his fence being 9 right up with the corner post next to our road. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mm-hmm. 11 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So, this was just a 12 give-and-take thing from both property owners to make it 13 work. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's a rarity that something 15 like this actually works. 16 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: It is; it's real rare. And 17 it's been going on for a long time. It was brought to my 18 attention several months ago. And this will cure the 19 problem. 20 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: So, we're ready to do it? 21 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We're ready to do it. I have 22 the deeds that Rex prepared; I need to take a notary out and 23 get him to sign the documents, and it'll be over finally. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And is that a motion? 25 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That's a motion. 12-27-07 15 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a second? 2 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Second. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion and second. 4 All in favor, please say aye. 5 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: None opposed. Motion 7 carries. 1.7, consider, discuss, and take appropriate action 8 on suspending ban on order prohibiting the sale or use of 9 restricted fireworks; i.e., skyrockets with sticks and 10 missiles with fins, in any portion of the unincorporated area 11 of Kerr County. Commissioner Letz? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I put this on the agenda, as we 13 discussed last time, to see if we're going to suspend the ban 14 we put in place. With the weather conditions, I'm not voting 15 for that, so the ban stays -- in my opinion, the ban stays in 16 place. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That would be Court Order 18 30657. We're just kind of approving -- so we're not taking 19 any action. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No action. 21 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We're withdrawing Number 7? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, we're withdrawing. No 23 action on it. No motion. 24 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Let me ask a question. Do we 25 have -- we don't -- does the County have or not have the 12-27-07 16 1 authority to suspend sale of all fireworks at some point? I 2 mean, we can't do it this year. I'm just -- just a question. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The Legislature -- 4 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Not just aerial. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The Legislature really limited 6 county authority in the last couple of sessions in that area. 7 We used to be able to do a lot more than we can now, as I 8 understand it. 9 MS. BAILEY: I'll ask Rex to look into that and 10 give you a memo. 11 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: They got a heck of a lobby, 12 fireworks people. 13 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I don't think that we have 14 the right to suspend sale of all fireworks. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think so. 16 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I don't think so either. 17 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: There's some misconception in 18 the community. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think this right here. 20 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: This is what I know that we 21 can do. And I don't -- you know, that's why I asked the 22 question. 23 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. 24 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Just to clarify with the 25 public what we have the authority to do and not do. 12-27-07 17 1 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, cities can do it 2 under municipal codes and their ordinances, but I don't think 3 we can. 4 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I don't think so either, but 5 I want to make sure the public understands that it's an 6 authority we do not have. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is all we can do. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I wouldn't vote for it 9 anyway, so that settled that. 10 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Okay. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do we need to go into 12 executive session for any reason anybody can think of? 13 Attorney, do you have anything to talk to us about in 14 private? No personnel matters. Let's pay bills. What do 15 you think? 16 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good idea. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The Judge left with me a 18 couple of questions. Page 5 of the bills, about halfway 19 down, First Insurance Agency, bonds and insurance. Something 20 to do with liability in the County Clerk's office, I think. 21 MS. HARGIS: His question was, was that an overlap 22 of coverage from TAC to us, or did we have professional -- 23 and Tommy is the one who drew up the policy, and was here the 24 day we actually did the check. I called TAC this morning; 25 they're not there. But he said it was not covered under our 12-27-07 18 1 current policy, nor is it a duplication. This is 2 professional liability insurance, very similar to what we 3 have for Rex. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. 5 MS. HARGIS: But we will hold it just to make sure, 6 until we know for sure with TAC. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Page 20, the second one 8 under Windstream for $139, and it's described as office 9 supplies. Should that not read telephone? 10 MS. HARGIS: I believe I saw this one. I think 11 they were buying -- actually buying some phones, because they 12 dropped one of the phones, or one of the phones -- they had 13 to replace it. I think there was more than one phone 14 involved, but I will look. It was not just paying of the 15 phone bill; it had to do with products. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. Okay. 17 MS. HARGIS: Telephones and such. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It was probably coded 19 correctly, then. That's all for Judge Tinley. Anybody else? 20 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I just have one, and it's 21 under -- on Page 34. 22 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Page 34? 23 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: It's under -- it's Constable 24 Precinct 2, and it comes under operating equipment, but then 25 it's uniform expense of $333.30. And there really isn't a 12-27-07 19 1 uniform line item in the budget for any of the constables 2 that I found. 3 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: There's not that I'm aware 4 of. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: And so I kind of question -- 6 if we're going to buy uniforms and furnish them, we need to 7 have a separate line item for that. Otherwise, I don't know 8 what we're really paying for. Operating equipment would just 9 seem like, you know, flashlights, billy clubs, handcuffs, you 10 know, guns, things that come under equipment. And I don't 11 think uniforms is equipment. 12 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, this particular 13 business, Sew What, that's kind of an embroidery place. 14 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Right. So, I don't 15 understand that one at all. 16 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Do we have the bill? Can 17 we check that and see what that is? 18 MS. HARGIS: Yeah. I'm sorry, I don't remember 19 this one. I remember looking at it, but I don't remember 20 exactly what it is, so let me look at this one. 21 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Why don't we pull it and 22 put it on next time? 23 MS. HARGIS: Okay. 24 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Find out what it is. 25 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That's fine with me. It just 12-27-07 20 1 doesn't seem quite right. The only one that's -- you know, 2 that I've seen that's -- 3 MS. HARGIS: I looked at all of them, but just 4 right now, I can't -- 5 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We'll pull that one out and 6 come back after you come up with an explanation. 7 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That's all I have. 8 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Move approval. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion and a 11 second to pay the bills. Except this one item? 12 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Correct. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: All in favor, please say 14 aye. 15 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Any opposed? Zero. Motion 17 carries. Any budget amendments? 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Here's reports. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Any budget amendments? 20 MS. HARGIS: No, sir. We'll have some next time. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Late bills? 22 MS. HARGIS: No, none. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have monthly reports. 24 Let's see here. We have reports from J.P. 4, J.P. 1, 25 District Clerk, and Environmental Health. Do I have a motion 12-27-07 21 1 to approve these as presented? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. 3 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion and second. All in 5 favor, please say aye. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No opposed. Motion carries. 8 Any reports from anybody? 9 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Nothing, other than we're 10 going to -- we have suspended the efforts to drain Ingram 11 Lake until next September. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. 13 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I was going to ask you 14 about that. 15 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We do not have time, if we 16 were to get the plug out right now, for it to drain and dry, 17 so we think it can be done -- 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Probably too cold. 19 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: The divers said it's really 20 cool down there. 21 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I'll bet it is. 22 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So we have another plan. But 23 we will come up, have that ready to go in September, and -- 24 just so everybody will know, and San Antonio news will leave 25 me alone and everybody else. It's kind of turned into a 12-27-07 22 1 comical thing. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It coincides maybe better with 3 also dam repairs, be able to do both at the same time. 4 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I think it will work better. 5 You know, it's best not to force an issue when you do not 6 have to. 7 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Particularly one like that. 8 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah. It's a -- and, 9 actually, it may work to where the same equipment and people 10 that may help us with that can sometime help us with draining 11 Flat Rock as well, if need be. 12 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: We're going to need help 13 out there. 14 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I think we -- this will -- 15 we're going to make it all work together, I hope. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Want to give the dams to the 17 City of Kerrville? 18 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Just the dams? We keep the 19 lake and give them the dam? 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 21 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We'll give the other one to 22 Ingram. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: City of Ingram. Anything 24 else? Good to have Commissioner Williams back with us. 25 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Good to be back. 12-27-07 23 1 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Very good. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good to be seen, isn't it? 3 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You bet you. 4 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Only other thing I have is -- 5 on my liaison duties is the Animal Control. They are doing 6 quite well with adoptions. They have gone on a statewide web 7 site, and there are people coming in here from all over the 8 state adopting pets. 9 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: You're kidding. 10 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: It's unbelievable. I don't 11 know -- Janie told me the other day that they hadn't had to 12 euthanize a dog in over three weeks. Pretty amazing. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is. 14 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So I think that's a good 15 report from that office; they're really working hard. 16 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Also has an engagement ring. 18 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I know she also has an 19 engagement ring. That's not part of my liaison duties, 20 though. That's between her and her boyfriend. 21 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I do want to say thanks to 22 Jody for keeping up with my -- helping me keep up with my 23 work and bringing things out for me to do. Thank you for the 24 care package from the Christmas -- from the Christmas 25 luncheon. The pork loin was excellent. Appreciate it very 12-27-07 24 1 much. 2 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We had a good crowd. 3 Everything was eaten. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you, Commissioner, for 5 cooking once again. 6 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: No problem. Anytime you can 7 feed 200 people for 300 bucks, it ain't bad. 8 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: That is excellent. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I finished mine up last 10 night; it was excellent. Very good. Anything else? 11 Anything from anybody? And so we're all going to the County 12 Auditor's home for New Year's Eve? Meet over there about 13 8:30? 14 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: 8:30 at the County 15 Auditor's home. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Dinner. 17 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Dinner and New Year's Eve 18 party. 19 MS. HARGIS: If we have potluck, we can have 20 dinner. 21 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: We weren't thinking about 22 potluck. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No. But -- 24 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thinking about a sit-down. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- we can do the potluck if 12-27-07 25 1 she furnishes the drinks. 2 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: All we need to know is, how 4 sturdy are your tables? When we start dancing on the tables, 5 will they hold Bruce and I? 6 MS. HARGIS: No, one of them will break, but the 7 other one will hold. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, well, what's one? We're 9 adjourned. For the year. 10 COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Thank you. 11 (Commissioners Court was adjourned at 9:30 a.m.) 12 - - - - - - - - - - 13 14 STATE OF TEXAS | 15 COUNTY OF KERR | 16 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 17 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 18 County Clerk of the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 19 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 20 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 27th day of December, 21 2007. 22 23 JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk 24 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 25 Certified Shorthand Reporter 12-27-07