KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT Regular Session Monday, November 25, 2013 9:00 a.m. Commissioners' Courtroom Kerr County Courthouse Kerrville, Texas Present: H.A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 BRUCE OEHLER, Commissioner Pct. 4 Absent: PAT TINLEY, Kerr County Judge 2 1 I N D E X November 25, 2013 2 PAGE 3 Commissioners' Comments 5 4 1.1 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on request to use the Kerr County 5 Courthouse Square for the Annual Cowboy Breakfast on January 10, 2014. 12 6 1.2 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 7 action on request from Kerr County Roller Derby to continue to use the Show Barn at 8 the Hill Country Youth Event Center for practices and events. 15 9 1.3 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 10 action to establish the County's application and approval process for 11 potential Emergency Medical System First Responders 15 12 1.4 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 13 action to approve Mary Krebs at Kerrville Police Department as an alternate AACOG 14 Criminal Justice Advisory Board member 34 15 1.5 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on request to remodel the meeting 16 Room and office area at the Extension Office with budgeted funds 35 17 1.6 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 18 action on audit agreement with The Spyglass Group, L.L.C. 37 19 1.7 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 20 action on authorizing maintenance supervisor to hire temporary part-time 21 worker 42 22 4.1 Pay Bills 43 4.2 Budget Amendments ---- 23 4.3 Late Bills ---- 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 44 24 25 3 1 I N D E X (Continued) November 25, 2013 2 PAGE 3 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee Assignments as per attachment 44 4 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department 5 Heads 48 6 7 Executive Session 8 1.8 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on Request for Proposal for 9 Emergency Medical Services (Executive Session) 51 10 11 ------- Adjourned 110 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 1 On Monday, November 25, 2013, at 9:00 a.m., 2 a regular meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners 3 Court was held in the Commissioners Courtroom, Kerr 4 County Courthouse, Kerrville, Texas, and the following 5 proceedings were had in open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good morning, 8 ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Commissioners Court. 9 It is November 25th, 2013, 9 a.m. We are in the 10 Commissioners Court. All four Commissioners are 11 present. Judge Tinley is still out, and when you have 12 an opportunity to have a word of prayer in our private 13 time, we'd ask you to lift our good County Judge up. 14 Commissioner Oehler. 15 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Okay. If you 16 would, join me in a word of prayer and the Pledge. 17 (Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance.) 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you very 19 much. You may be seated. 20 We want to welcome everyone to the 21 Commissioners Court, and if there's anyone in the room 22 amongst the citizens that has something they'd like to 23 bring to the Commissioners Court that's not an agenda 24 item, we'd ask you to come forward now and make your 25 presentation. 5 1 Seeing nobody, we're going to have comments 2 from the Commissioners Court. 3 Commissioner 2? 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Commissioner 2, 5 thank you. I appreciate that. Several things. I 6 mentioned the last court that the Kerrville South 7 Wastewater System was kind of marginal on getting 8 enough of the beneficiaries to hook up. That milestone 9 has been met. We've got all the people that we need. 10 We have the contractor on board. 11 We had a preconstruction meeting for that 12 project last week. So we're off and running. I think 13 that we've got a couple of little things that we need 14 to resolve on boring under trees and things like that, 15 but the contractor will get it completed, and he'll 16 meet the schedule. We'll be within budget. So that's 17 -- that's what I have right there. So that's it. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. 19 Thank you. 20 Commissioner Letz? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Couple of things. 22 Veterans Service Officer, we talked about that a little 23 bit at our last agenda, and I think it will be on our 24 next agenda to finalize a job description. I've 25 received a draft of it, or the Judge -- I don't know if 6 1 the rest of the Court did get it but -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- and I made a few 4 changes on that, some adjustments, but that will be on 5 our next agenda, and probably at that point I would 6 anticipate certain -- publish that so we can get that 7 moving down the road. 8 I brought that up largely because I've had 9 some calls about it, and there's people interested 10 about that, where we are on that. I'd kind of update 11 it from my standpoint. 12 Another one is Guadalupe-Blanco River 13 Authority, I received a letter from them. They were 14 mad at us. They were somewhat threatening to withdraw 15 from our regional planning grant, and they were mad 16 about our protest. Not real sure what caused the 17 letter, but -- well, I do know what caused the letter 18 about me. 19 But aside from that, I've talked to Bill 20 West, their general manager, and I think -- I told 21 him -- I said, you know, if they would just call us, 22 we'd be glad to meet with them on the protest, and I 23 thought we could get beyond that. I said they, you 24 know, need to talk to UGRA and the City of Kerrville as 25 well because we'll -- you know, my discussions will 7 1 only be related to the County. 2 And then on the regional planning grant, 3 they were upset that we wanted to study a pipeline from 4 Canyon Lake. I explained it to Mr. West. He still 5 doesn't like the fact that we're doing. We're probably 6 going to pull that out of the actual grant, but still 7 study it under the regional -- regional plan. 8 The reason for that is, it kind of gets very 9 confusing, but we obviously have an MOU with GBRA for 10 6,000-acre feet of water. That MOU kind of talks about 11 getting the water out in Kerr County through a 12 diversion upstream which would lower the amount of the 13 water. 14 They also have an agreement that we were not 15 aware of with Comal County which is very similar that 16 was signed right after the MOU with us, and Comal 17 County is upset that if, you know, we move our water 18 down to Canyon Lake, then they're worried it might 19 impact their water and all that stuff, and I think 20 we're -- it's premature to have a battle over this 21 right now. We don't even know if it makes sense to do 22 either one of them. 23 So we're still in a feasibility timeframe, 24 which -- and I talked to him, and I said, I don't see a 25 big problem. We want to continue to work with them on 8 1 the regional plan, and he seems okay with all that 2 so... 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So basically what 4 we did, we just reserved the rights to -- to leave it 5 open and to -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. Yeah. 7 We're just going to -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Protest it. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- push that -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- down, move it 12 down a little bit. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Another issue that 15 I -- you know, I've had a call or so about is campaign 16 signs. I think they've mostly been on vehicles from 17 various people in the -- that are running for office. 18 I don't know that we actually had a policy ever, but I 19 know in the past -- it was kind of unwritten anyway -- 20 that campaign signs were not allowed on the courthouse 21 square, were not encouraged, whatever the word would 22 be. 23 So I just bring that up as a -- I see 24 some -- there's some that are parked on the street, and 25 some are parked in the square, and I think we need to 9 1 be consistent, whatever that policy is. So I'll 2 probably put that on our next agenda so we can have a 3 -- and look at it. 4 Rob is shaking his head. Doesn't want us to 5 put it on the agenda. 6 MR. HENNEKE: I'll -- I'll visit with 7 you about that. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay, but, anyway, 9 in the past I will say it has not been done, and I 10 think that it should not be. It's -- that, to me, 11 makes sense. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can I translate 13 from Comfort talk to -- maybe y'all need to move your 14 cars on the outside of the courthouse square. 15 (Laughter.) 16 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: You think that's 17 what he meant? 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Pretty sure. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyway -- 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Comfort talk. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- that's all I 22 have. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good. 24 Commissioner Oehler? 25 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, I did have 10 1 a long visit with Gordon Morgan the other day about the 2 very thing that Jonathan is talking about. He had a 3 copy of that letter from GBRA and -- and, you know, 4 like I told him -- the same thing you said. You know, 5 let's don't get in a fight over this yet. There's 6 really not anything to fight about, but, anyway, he was 7 concerned that they were -- but he was also kind of 8 happy about that, so -- as he would be. Anyway, other 9 than that, let it rain. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. Thank 11 you, Commissioner Oehler. 12 I was -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You don't have 14 anything? 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I do. I 16 was here for the Christmas lighting function, whenever 17 that was, Saturday night, and it was fantastic. We've 18 participated in these things for 112 years now, and -- 19 but I'm finally getting excited in my old age about 20 this thing; and the new tree issue out here on the side 21 that turned out so fantastic, I'd love to see them do 22 the whole yard with that, and it's a neat thing. 23 It wasn't a huge crowd, but it was a pretty 24 good crowd. Lot of people out there, and good time was 25 had by all. Santa was here. 11 1 I have an award here, and what an honor it 2 is to be able to present this award. It's the 2013 3 County Tax Assessor/Collector of the Year. Diane 4 Bolin, the Kerr County Tax Assessor/Collector, is voted 5 by her peers as the outstanding tax assessor/collector 6 in the entire State of Texas -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wow. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- and so... 9 (Applause.) 10 (Photograph taken.) 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 12 Congratulations. Proud of you. Proud of you. Thank 13 you. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Outstanding. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We've had a loss 16 of part of the Kerr County family. Judge Burney from 17 Center Point. She was a JP down there for how long? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I couldn't tell 19 you. Two -- two terms? Three terms? 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Long time. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Three, I think. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Three terms. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: A long time, but 24 more importantly than that, her -- her and her 25 husband's family were founders of this county and have 12 1 been here for absolutely ever, and there's services -- 2 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: They were 3 yesterday. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They were 5 yesterday, so don't try to go today because they're not 6 having them today. 7 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Right. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- well, 9 thank you, Rusty, for reminding me of that. Anything 10 else we want to -- at this point? 11 Well, let's get into our agenda. We'll 12 start with Item 1 is where we should start. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Anybody going to 14 come forward? 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Item 1 is 18 consider, discuss, take appropriate action on the 19 request to use the Kerr County Courthouse Square for 20 the Annual Cowboy Breakfast on January the 10th, 2014. 21 Is -- you're not Kristan Weaver. Believe 22 me. 23 (Laughter.) 24 MR. TALARICO: No, I'm not. I'm not. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Keep dreaming 13 1 like that, Pal. 2 MR. TALARICO: I don't know that I 3 really want to do that, but thank you, Commissioner. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Would you give 5 your name and address for the record, please. 6 MR. TALARICO: Jeff Talarico, and you 7 want my home address? 102 Spring Hill Drive, 8 Kerrville, Texas. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's good 10 enough. Thank you, sir. 11 MR. TALARICO: You're welcome. 12 We'd like to know if the Hill Country 13 District Junior Livestock Association, along with the 14 Kerrville Area Chamber of Commerce can use the 15 courthouse grounds again for our Annual Cowboy 16 Breakfast, and I know that most of you take part in it 17 every year. We'd love to have you back. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move and approve. 19 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Got a motion and 21 second. All in favor, please say aye. 22 (All four Commissioners responded 23 affirmatively.) 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: None opposed. 25 Done deal. 14 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: January 10th. 2 MR. TALARICO: Boy, that was easy. 3 Yeah, January 10th, Friday. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: January 10 at -- 5 MR. TALARICO: It's going to be good. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- about what 7 time in the morning do you think? 8 MR. TALARICO: For you, four o'clock. 9 (Laughter.) 10 MR. TALARICO: No. We actually might 11 be starting things a little earlier this year. It 12 depends on a special guest that we're trying to get. 13 We're trying to get Cleto Rodriguez from WOAI, and if 14 they can get them out here with their film crew, we'd 15 like to sure do some of the milk -- or, yeah, milking 16 of goats and maybe the cow chip a little bit before 17 seven. That way it gets on the San Antonio news, so 18 we'll see if we get that. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Super. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 21 MR. TALARICO: All right. Thank you, 22 guys. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you very 24 much. Looking forward to it -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, 15 1 Kristan. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- sort of. 3 MR. TALARICO: Thanks, Tom. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Item 2, 5 consider, discuss, take appropriate action on request 6 from the Kerr County Roller Derby to continue to use 7 the show barn at the Hill Country Youth Event Center 8 for practice and events. Leslie Jones, Ms. Jones in 9 the room? This is two meetings in a row. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They're going 11 around and around. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Item No. 1.3, 13 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 14 establish the County's application and approval process 15 for potential emergency medical system first 16 responders. 17 Commissioner Moser? 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Buster. 19 Let me -- let me address this with three different 20 areas. Number one, I want to talk about the situation 21 and the problem and where we are in this. I'm not 22 going to promote or request any action but just for 23 discussion. 24 Our emergency medical services outside the 25 city, as we all know, is managed by the City itself 16 1 through their emergency medical services, their 2 interlocal agreement. Currently we have 16 first 3 responders that have been selected, trained, and 4 certified by the EMS Coordinator of the City, but we 5 have three county residents spread around the county 6 who want to become first responders, and the City has 7 requested the County approve the first responder 8 candidates. 9 In the past, the first responders have been 10 known by the EMS Coordinator, and he says yea verily. 11 So that's the way we have our 16 EMS first responders, 12 and I think part of our situation is, is that we should 13 have as many first responders as practical. When I say 14 "practical," that is being -- staying within our 15 budget, staying within the needs that we have. 16 So with that situation, what's the problem? 17 The problem is the County does not have a criteria or a 18 process for approving candidates, so the City is set -- 19 sent us a correspondence saying, Please advise us what 20 your process is for that. I've sent a message back to 21 them. Said, We will use our County standards to 22 screen, do background checks on the applicants, and 23 send them forward to you, and we'll manage that process 24 and is that sufficient, and essentially they said yes. 25 So what they're asking for is a formal 17 1 process by with which to screen the -- the applicants, 2 potential applicants. Dawn at HR, Rob from County 3 Attorney's and myself met. Buster was -- had a 4 conflict at that time, and we looked at the process to 5 determine what should we do within the County to -- to 6 approve the applicants. 7 And the way it is in the County right now, 8 department heads do the -- do the screening for 9 potentials. We don't have a department that this falls 10 under. I tried to get Rusty to do this, and I think he 11 objected pretty quickly. He said, No, I don't want to 12 do it. 13 So part -- and -- and it was put on the 14 table, and I think it's a good suggestion, and that is 15 to have the volunteer fire departments approve the 16 people that would like to be first responders because 17 usually the volunteer fire departments know the people 18 in their areas, okay, know the individuals, know their 19 background and capability, and let them do that. 20 So I contacted the -- the chief or the -- 21 the president of the -- all the fire chiefs within the 22 county and asked them if they would -- if the volunteer 23 fire departments would be acceptable to providing that 24 screening capability. They -- they are in the process 25 of responding. 18 1 So the question is if some of the volunteer 2 fire departments say, Yea verily, we'll do it, but some 3 say they won't, then that still leaves us with an issue 4 of how to do it. 5 So we're -- we're -- this is to provide the 6 status. We've got one more step, and we'll get the 7 response from the volunteer fire department chiefs 8 hopefully this week, and I'll bring it back to the 9 Court at the next -- next Court session after we meet 10 again with -- with the committee that we have, 11 including Buster, and say, Here's the way we recommend 12 we go forward with this. So this is just a status. 13 The thing that's -- that's important and 14 critical about this is we have people that want to be 15 medical first responders, and they're not in the 16 program, and if something were to happen today or 17 tomorrow or something where we could have helped 18 somebody, if we would have had a first responder there 19 sooner, then I think that -- I think that that would 20 not be good. 21 So we're trying to move forward on this as 22 quickly as possible. So that's the status. No -- no 23 action requested. So just a follow-up on that. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I've got a 25 question -- 19 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- a question 3 and a couple of comments. It seems to me that this is 4 kind of a major change from someone selecting or 5 okaying a -- an applicant to be a first responder to 6 we've got this full-blown, looks like numerous steps to 7 me for a person to become a first responder, and to me, 8 a change from our old way to this way means to me that 9 something has happened in a negative way that we're 10 trying to correct an issue or a problem, and I can't 11 figure out where -- where the problem is. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think -- I don't 13 believe that there's -- as the way I understand it, I 14 don't believe there's been a change. I think any time 15 applicants in the past have -- have come forward, they 16 have been known by the EMS staff, EMS Coordinator, and 17 they know that they -- that they would be acceptable 18 for the program. There's some other people that they 19 don't know, okay, and they simply would like to say, 20 These are people that the County has chosen to be in 21 the program, and we would just like the County 22 endorsement that these applicants should be put in the 23 formalized training and certification program. So I 24 don't think there -- I don't think there's a 25 difference. 20 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think there's 3 just -- the only difference is some of the candidates 4 they don't know. Okay? So that's all I ask. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Well, let 6 me just say this: There's -- there's one young man 7 sitting in the back of the room -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Uh-huh. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- that has a 10 desire and has written you and I numerous letters and 11 he's attended meetings and kind of beaten on the door 12 pretty hard. I know him. I -- I know his family. I 13 know his mama. I've known -- watched him grown up. 14 I've known him since he was a little kid. He's a good 15 guy. 16 I think if we can get a criminal background 17 on him, he should sign up and be in there today. He 18 doesn't have to go over to the City and do anything. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, he has to be 20 certified to be -- he has to -- he has to -- what it 21 does is if Tim -- if we say yea verily. Now, part of 22 the process would be whatever we do, the candidates 23 come to Commissioners Court and we say yea verily. 24 Okay? So we could do that, you know, with this agenda 25 item today. Okay? We could say yea verily. Let's -- 21 1 Tim should be part of the program. Send the name over 2 to the EMS Coordinator who -- who we have the agreement 3 to -- to certify and train, then Tim would be part of 4 the program. So we can do that. Okay? 5 And we -- we took that as a way to do it, 6 why do we have to go through volunteer fire departments 7 to screen these people or something. You happen to 8 know Tim. Okay? I know one of the other guys out in 9 The Wilderness. So we could just say, Bring the guys 10 to Commissioners Court. We say yea verily. Pass that 11 over to the City and we're done. Okay, and they 12 take it from there. 13 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Why is the City 14 not -- why is the City objecting to taking them on? 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They're not 16 objecting to taking them on. They're just saying who 17 are they. 18 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, why don't 19 they ask? I mean, that's so simple. That's 20 ridiculous. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well -- 22 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: So now we're 23 going to -- we're not medical people. We may know 24 these folks, but if they have the training to be a 25 first responder, why is there a rift between getting -- 22 1 why aren't they being certified? Why aren't they being 2 approved for the program? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They just want to 4 know that this is the person the County wants. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I want anyone that 6 wants to do it. 7 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Okay. So 9 let's just -- let's just circumvent this thing and say 10 anybody that we want, let's bring it to the 11 Commissioners Court, say yea verily. This is who we 12 want to have. I don't disagree with that. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So all we're going 14 to do is just get a name and say okay? 15 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: You're in the 16 program. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's it. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And on the 19 background checks and all that, I mean, we don't ask 20 employees to go through background checks. Why should 21 we ask a volunteer to go through background checks? 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We do. 23 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We do ask 24 employees. 25 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The new hires do. 23 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: New hires? 2 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: New employees all 3 do background. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It was even 5 discussed, you know, should we do on somebody -- 6 somebody's providing this service, you know, if that 7 critical, should they have a drug test. That's a 8 question. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess my -- I 10 guess where I'm going with the question is, okay, we do 11 a background check. What do we do with it? If 12 somebody had a DUI 20 years ago, does that mean they 13 can't be a first responder? We don't have a policy -- 14 as soon as you do a -- as soon as we have a -- start 15 checking, then we've got to have a policy as to what we 16 do. As soon as we have a policy, then I can see the 17 next step, that they're considered County employees. 18 Then we have insurance, and all of a sudden it's cost 19 us a bunch of money. 20 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I don't -- 22 it seems like it's a slippery slope to me to go down 23 for a program that's working very well right now. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But the thing 25 is -- here's -- here's the thing. We have a program 24 1 that's working very well. We have people that want to 2 be in the program, Tim for existence -- for example. 3 Okay? And we've got other people in the program. So 4 all the -- all the EMS Coordinator is asking is, is 5 this the person that the County wants in the program. 6 That's it. Simple. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But I don't know 8 that. He's the -- that person is in the best, you 9 know, position to know if this person is going to be a 10 good person. I have no know idea. I don't know Tim. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There's -- 12 there's -- 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think. Do 14 I know you, Tim? 15 TIM: No. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There's two steps. 17 Once the person goes into the EMS program, then they 18 do the training and they do the certification. All 19 they're saying is when you -- is this a person that you 20 want us to put in the program, pure and simple. They 21 don't do the background check. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But how do I know? 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: How do you know 24 what? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If I want them to 25 1 be in the program. I don't know these people. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, that's the 3 same thing the EMS Coordinator is saying, is how do we 4 know that you want this person. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But he can ask 6 questions. He's in a position -- he knows the -- you 7 know, he can meet the persons and talk to them. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They don't -- they 9 don't want that responsibility. They want the County 10 to say, This is a person we want in the program. 11 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Oh, Lord. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's where -- 13 that's where it sits. 14 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Ridiculous. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask a 16 question. Rusty, what do you look for when you do a 17 criminal background check? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, first off, 19 on anything that is not criminal-justice related, I 20 cannot do a background check is the problem. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm not asking 22 you to. I'm asking you what do you look for when you 23 do one. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, that's for 25 what their criminal history is, period, to see what 26 1 they've been involved in, moral turpitude. Take it -- 2 TCLEOSE -- 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And to see if 4 there's any warrants for them or wanted? 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Warrants, 6 anything, but, like, TCLEOSE requirements are if -- if 7 a person has had a DWI, he can't be a peace officer, a 8 licensed peace officer in the State of Texas for at 9 least ten years after the very first DWI. Okay? So 10 there's a lot of that, and if you look at jurors, they 11 can't sit on a jury if they've had any crimes of moral 12 turpitude, you know, such as hot check, theft, anything 13 like that they can't. 14 So there's -- there's -- it just depends. I 15 mean, like Buster -- I mean, like Jonathan would say is 16 you'd have to come up with what are your limits going 17 to be. You know, I felt what we talked about the other 18 day that, you know, the fire department volunteers are 19 the best ones to recommend, but reality is, the 20 Coordinator is the one that's going to interview these 21 people and ought to decide whether or not they should 22 be part of the program. Whoever your EMS Coordinator 23 is should handle it, and I think y'all are paying one 24 for that purpose. 25 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: I'm like Jon. If 27 1 -- whoever wants to be one needs to get down there and 2 get interviewed, and if they get -- if they're 3 qualified, let them do it. I mean, there doesn't need 4 to be anything in the way of that. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we're paying 6 the Coordinator. I mean -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Paying the 8 Coordinator to train and certify. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So all they're 11 saying is -- you know, is -- is this the person that 12 the County wants to have providing medical services -- 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But -- 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- and that's -- 15 that's it. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But there's no way 17 for me to know that, and if we start going through an 18 interview process, all of a sudden they become County 19 employees. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So they -- 21 no, not necessarily. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Start getting into 23 a lot of things. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well -- and so put 25 yourself in the spot of the EMS Coordinator. What is 28 1 the -- what is his criteria? Do we just want to rely 2 on him? 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Say yes? 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yes. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that it? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's what I want 8 to do. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That's why we 11 have him. We're not qualified for that. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Not qualified to 13 train them and certify them, yeah, for sure. 14 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The Coordinator's 15 job should be, and the way I always understood it, is 16 running the first responder program. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: It's not just 19 training. It's running the program. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's what 21 they do. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And if you're 23 running the program, you select who is part of that 24 program. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. I mean, 29 1 we're -- this Court -- I on this Court anyway am not in 2 a position to know that. If we want to rely on the 3 volunteer fire departments, that's fine. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But, you know, I 6 don't think that makes sense either because if a new 7 person moves into the community they don't know, so 8 that person can't be a first responder because then no 9 one knows them? I mean, it -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Somebody -- some 11 -- well, do you just let anybody? Say that somebody 12 doesn't have the -- 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. We let the EMS 14 Coordinator talk to the person. He knows the questions 15 to ask. He knows -- you know, let him make decisions, 16 what he's being paid to run the program. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He's just -- all 18 they're doing -- they're being paid to certify and -- 19 and execute the program. You're right, Rusty. That's 20 exactly what they're paid to do. 21 So all they're saying is screen the 22 candidate that you want us to do. We can say anybody. 23 We can respond to them and say anybody that wants to be 24 it is there. Okay? And that -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a motion 30 1 anyone -- that anyone that the EMS Coordinator wants on 2 the program is on the program. That's my motion. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion 4 on the table. Is there a second? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wait. What's the 6 motion? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyone he wants. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Anyone who wants 9 to be on the program? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. Anyone the EMS 11 Coordinator picks is on the program. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. No. He 13 doesn't want to pick them. He wants -- 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, he's our 15 Coordinator. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He wants the 17 County -- he wants the County to -- 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, anyway, 19 that's my motion. That was my motion, and it was 20 seconded. 21 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Yeah. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And it was 24 seconded. Any further discussion? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And what if -- 31 1 what if he -- what if the EMS Coordinator -- here's the 2 situation. What if the EMS Coordinator says, I'm not 3 going to choose the person? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, then maybe we 5 need to look at how we do the EMS program. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's where 7 it is -- that's where it is right now. We've got three 8 people that want to be first responders, and what 9 they're saying is, are these people that you want to be 10 first responders, to be put in the program, trained and 11 certified. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know. I 13 don't know. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, he doesn't 15 know either. He's asking the County to -- to -- to say 16 so. 17 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: That sounds like 18 there's more coordinator problem than anything else 19 here. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't think so. 21 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, then why is 22 he not just letting people join up if they're qualified 23 to get on the list? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He doesn't want 25 that responsibility. 32 1 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, how has it 2 happened up to this point? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Because he's known 4 the people. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Oh, bull. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I bet he has not 7 known everyone in that program. 8 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: There is no way. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, he said, so 10 I don't think he'd be lying. 11 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Well, that's 12 bull, like a lot of other things around here. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Y'all want to 15 make another run at this next meeting or do you want to 16 deal with your -- 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm ready to vote. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Tell me 19 what your motion is. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: My motion is to 21 refer candidates to the EMS Coordinator to make the 22 decision on hiring them or admitted into the program 23 'cause they're not hiring them. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I'll agree 25 with that. Referred candidates, okay, that's all -- 33 1 that's all they're asking. Refer the candidates. 2 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Any of them that 3 want to. There's no names associated with it. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Refer any 5 candidate -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- to the EMS 7 Coordinator. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And we have a 10 motion and a second. All in favor, please raise your 11 right hand. 12 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's a 14 unanimous -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- vote. Man. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. Tim -- 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Shorten next -- 19 next agenda. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm still not 21 sure what you're supposed to do, but good luck to you. 22 Go out there and save some lives, Man. 23 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Which means if 24 he's interested, he can go over there and tell him 25 Well, the Court said anybody that wants to can. 34 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There you go. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Item 4, 3 consider, discuss, take appropriate action to approve 4 Mary Krebs at the Kerrville Police Department as an 5 alternate AACOG Criminal Justice Advisory Board member. 6 Sheriff Hierholzer? 7 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: All this is is a 8 replacement -- Lieutenant -- or Captain Winling had 9 been the alternative. Bill Hill with my department is 10 the person, and then his alternate was Lieu -- or 11 Captain Winling. Captain Winling has since retired 12 from the police department, so they talked to the Chief 13 about it and Bill Hill and who would they like to have 14 on that board as Captain Winling's replacement would be 15 Mary Krebs. 16 She's a lieutenant with the police 17 department. I think it's a great choice. She's, you 18 know, a very good, competent person. At this point I 19 think Judge Tinley just writes them a letter or 20 something, Buster, that makes that official and then 21 she's on it. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. Okay. 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: When he gets back, 24 but it is approved by this Court. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: If it's 35 1 approved, we'll take care of that, sir. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval of 3 appointing Mary Krebs to be the alternate to the -- 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion 6 and a second. All in favor, raise your right hand. 7 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Unanimous for. 9 So we'll get Jody to deal with that and get going with 10 it. 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Okay. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Thank you. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Item 1.5, 15 consider, discuss, take appropriate action on request 16 to remodel the meeting room and office area at the 17 Extension Office with budgeted funds. 18 Mr. Walston? 19 MR. WALSTON: Good morning. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Now, Roy knows 21 how to do this thing. He walks in with an invitation 22 for us to have lunch and then he comes in here. I like 23 it. 24 (Laughter.) 25 MR. WALSTON: Well, we are having a 36 1 lunch on -- we've got scheduled for December 5th that 2 hopefully y'all are able to make, and that's our 3 annual -- annual meeting where we do our interpretation 4 for all of y'all. So we hope y'all are able to come 5 eat lunch with us. 6 In this agenda item, what I've -- what I've 7 asked for is just for your approval, and the funds have 8 been budgeted, for some remodelling on our meeting room 9 and then also in our office. Basically that is 10 replacing the Formica on the countertops in the meeting 11 room on -- on the bar and the kitchen area, and then 12 also in the secretary's office area, putting in some 13 cabinet space and some windows where we can lock that 14 area off. 15 So -- and what we have approved for the 16 budget, I don't have exactly, but it's 11,000 -- 17 eleven, five, something like that so... 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Are you doing it 19 with our maintenance staff doing it or are you going to 20 use contractors? 21 MR. WALSTON: No. We're -- we're 22 getting a contractor in. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. I move 24 approval. 25 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 37 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have a motion 2 and second for approval of 1.5. Any further 3 discussion? All in favor, raise your right hand. 4 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's a unanimous 6 vote yes. 7 MR. WALSTON: Thank you, gentlemen. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, 9 Mr. Walston. 10 Let's see, 9:30. 1.6, consider, discuss, 11 and take appropriate action on audit agreement with 12 The Spyglass Group, L.L.C. 13 Mr. Lower? Good to see you again, sir. 14 Thank you for being here. 15 MR. LOWER: Thanks for having me again. 16 Good morning. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good morning. 18 MR. LOWER: So, yes, I was here about 19 last -- last month around this time. At that point in 20 time I believe it was told I needed to talk to 21 Mr. Trollinger as well as the Auditor and get the 22 agreement put through to the County Attorney. Since 23 then I have taken care of all those. I'm not sure if 24 Mr. Trollinger is here. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's here. 38 1 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Right behind you. 2 MR. LOWER: Hi. Nice to meet you. 3 MR. TROLLINGER: I've reviewed the -- 4 The Spyglass Company and what they do and what they 5 have done in other places and talked to Mr. Lower here, 6 and I agree. It's Judge Tinley's project to -- to go 7 in and look at each one of these phone lines and see if 8 we've got another -- even if it's, like, a $20 thing 9 and we knock that off that bill -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Uh-huh. 11 MR. TROLLINGER: -- if we stay after 12 those little things and stay as frugal as we can, I 13 think it's -- it's the right thing to do, and really 14 it's just cost us a little bit of time to go and review 15 it. So let's let this young man go through it with a 16 fine-tooth comb and go through our phone bills and see 17 what he can find. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And, the 19 Auditor, do you -- would you like to make a comment? 20 MS. HARGIS: No. Other than handing 21 him the bills, I haven't really spoken with him. So I 22 -- I've been through some of these in the past. 23 Sometimes they're good; sometimes they're not, but, you 24 know, it's worth the effort. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 39 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't think 2 there's a downside, is there, to this -- this thing? 3 MR. LOWER: Not to me. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Jon or anybody? 5 MR. LOWER: No. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: County Attorney, 7 you have a comment? 8 MR. HENNEKE: You know, I've reviewed 9 the agreement and revised it to the form that's okay. 10 You know, these SALT agreements, you know, they haven't 11 really done them with any local governments in Texas 12 yet. That's what you said -- 13 MR. LOWER: Yeah. 14 MR. HENNEKE: -- last meeting. I mean, 15 these are savings with which we're entitled to if we 16 would just identify them. I don't know if y'all want 17 to see how it works with other governmental entities 18 or, you know, be the guinea pig here in Texas, but, you 19 know, the agreement -- I've cleaned up the agreement to 20 where the form of it is okay. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I move that we 23 accept the -- the agreement as presented with Spyglass 24 to see if we can save some money in the county with our 25 telecommunication system. 40 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. 2 Motion? Second -- is there a second? 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I second. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Any further 5 discussion at this table? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just the only 7 comment, if you'd wait till after the first of the year 8 to do this. I mean, I just think -- we have -- we're 9 busy and end of the year, and lots of things going on, 10 and I just -- you know, 'cause I think it's going to 11 take a little bit of time. I'd just rather for us, you 12 know -- I don't think it will be much of a problem if 13 we don't -- 14 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Start January 1. 15 MR. LOWER: Yeah. So the project would 16 start January 1? 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 18 MR. LOWER: Okay. One thing, our 19 agreement, I do have administrative work we do on our 20 own part just putting through our system. I can pick 21 up the bills after -- and that's in the LOA, the letter 22 of authorization, pick that up after January 1st. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 24 MR. LOWER: Is there any way I can get 25 that agreement in so I can put it through our system? 41 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sure. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 3 MR. LOWER: I'm not sure -- is Judge 4 Tinley -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's fine. We 6 can get -- he can sign -- execute. We can still 7 execute documents. 8 MR. LOWER: Okay. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's not a 10 problem. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 12 MR. LOWER: Okay. Great. So I'll get 13 that, and then, Jeannie, should I work with you to get 14 the bills after January 1st? 15 MS. HARGIS: (Indicated.) 16 MR. LOWER: Okay. So we can talk after 17 this maybe and set up a time? 18 MS. HARGIS: That'd be good. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. 20 MR. LOWER: Great. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 22 MR. LOWER: Thank you. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. Thank 24 you. Hope you find something, I think. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion 42 1 and second. What did you say, Rusty? 2 Is there any further discussion? All in 3 favor, please raise your right hand. 4 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It's a unanimous 6 vote for. Thank you. 7 1.7, consider, discuss, take appropriate 8 action on authorizing maintenance supervisor to hire 9 temporary part-time worker. Do you want to take that 10 in executive session? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's up to y'all. 12 The situation is there's a -- he has it as budgeted as 13 a part-time worker in his budget, and he's out of town 14 today, so I'm handling this for him. 15 He's going to be down an employee for a 16 while, and with the stock show coming on and other 17 things, I just think we need to hire for about, I 18 think, a six-week period or two months -- probably two 19 months, through December, January, those two months to 20 authorize him to hire a part-time worker for that 21 period. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Would this 23 person be -- have a background check? 24 Thank you, sir. 25 MR. LOWER: Thank you. 43 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But I make a motion 2 to authorize the maintenance department to hire a 3 part-time worker for the months of December and January 4 and use our budgeted funds. 5 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion 7 and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor, 8 raise your right hand. 9 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Unanimous pass. 11 1.8, that is an executive session item. 12 Let's go to number 4, Section IV. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move to pay the 14 bills. 15 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a motion 17 and a second to pay the bills. All in favor, please 18 raise your right hand. 19 (All four Commissioners raised hands.) 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Motion passes. 21 Bills will be paid. Uh-oh. Wait a second. I see some 22 notes here. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Uh-oh. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, never mind. 25 Is there any budget amendments? 44 1 MS. HARGIS: No, sir. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No budget 3 amendments. 4 Late bills? 5 MS. HARGIS: No, sir. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No late bills. 7 Monthly reports? 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move that we 9 accept the monthly reports. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The monthly 11 reports are the Kerr County Treasurer, JP No. 1, and 12 the Kerr County Animal Services, a motion to approve as 13 presented. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Motion -- 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. 16 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Second. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We have a 18 second. All in favor, please say aye. 19 (All four Commissioners responded 20 affirmatively.) 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let's see here. 22 Stand by. 23 Information Agenda, Section V, reports from 24 the Commissioners/Liaison Committee Assignments as per 25 attachment. 45 1 Commissioner Oehler? 2 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Stock show stuff 3 is starting to get set up here very shortly. They're 4 going to -- I've got the request to get the sand hauled 5 in by Road & Bridge which they always do for the show 6 barn and hog barn. We'll do it a little different this 7 year and make it easier, and guess we can drive trucks 8 in the building now and dump. We don't have to 9 transfer it from outside to inside. Save a lot of 10 time. Anyway that's about it. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Thank 12 you, sir. 13 Mr. Moser? 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Nothing. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mr. Letz? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just an update on 17 the Little League and our agreement out there. Those 18 that have been out there may have noticed that our 19 maintenance department has been doing quite a bit of 20 work on cleaning up areas along the creek and cleaning 21 up the overall property. I've gone over a lot of the 22 stuff with Tim out there. 23 We're in the -- the County Attorney and I 24 are in the process of, I guess, finalizing a license 25 agreement form that will -- I think is going to work 46 1 best. It's going to -- basically it's modeled after 2 the agreement that the City of San Antonio and Bexar 3 County have with the McAllister Park Little League. 4 They have a very lengthy agreement with the -- not 5 lengthy, a very thorough agreement that addresses a lot 6 of things, and it really fits our situation almost 7 identical to what they have and did. So we're working 8 on that a little bit. 9 I visited with Blake Caraway about this, and 10 he knows where are. We're just finalizing a few forms. 11 Once we get an agreement that they're happy with and 12 we're happy -- I'm happy with, I'll bring it to the 13 Court, but it basically will be a -- a five-year deal, 14 renewable for multiple times. So it will be a long 15 term, approximately, but it's about every five years we 16 have a check so we don't get into the kind of situation 17 we got in this year and that work with the Little 18 League will be the -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And so will they 20 be the coordinator for all the use? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They will be the 22 coordinator with other -- with some stipulations. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But they have to do 25 certain things and funds. 47 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, you know, I 3 think it's going to be a good agreement. I think it's 4 going to allow them to go forward with some potential 5 expansion -- 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- things they'd 8 like to do. Have to figure out how we're going to get 9 the other property, but I know K.I.S.D. has some 10 property right next door that's really unusable. It's 11 in a floodplain. They have no plans for that property, 12 and our Road & Bridge Department has some property that 13 we're using over there that is being used, but there 14 may be another alternative where that can be. So there 15 is some land in that area. 16 So, anyway -- but it's moving along. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That cleanup looks 18 fantastic from the road. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Lets people see 21 the facilities out there. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You can see it -- 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- and, you know, 25 the idea is to kind of make it into a true park. 48 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You know, and it 3 should have probably been cleaned up long ago. It's 4 just grown up with brush, so we'll just clean up the 5 rest of it, but that's kind of where that is, and 6 hopefully it will be on our next agenda. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good. Anything 9 else? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's it. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Reports from 12 elected officials and department heads? No political 13 speeches. 14 DISTRICT CLERK: No, sir. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: John? 16 MR. TROLLINGER: No, sir. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Tax 18 Assessor/Collector? No. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Number one. 20 COMMISSIONER OEHLER: Auditor? 21 MS. HARGIS: Yes. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: State champion. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Number one, yeah, 24 state champion. 25 MS. HARGIS: We received as you -- I 49 1 don't know if you recall about three years the TAC 2 started doing an appraisal of all the properties for 3 the different entities so that we would have that as a 4 preappraisal. This is the third year. Every three 5 years they do that. 6 We received a new appraisal. Some of the 7 values went down, and I've done a spreadsheet because I 8 want the Court to decide whether or not that's a good 9 thing for us to reduce our insurance on some of these 10 buildings. So we've prepared a spreadsheet. I didn't 11 get it on the agenda. I'd like for y'all to review it 12 and put it on the agenda for next time. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. 14 Thank you. Is that it, Ms. Auditor? 15 MS. HARGIS: Yes. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you very 17 much. 18 Sheriff? 19 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: It was a pretty 20 busy weekend. Thank goodness we didn't have the ice 21 that they were predicting, but Friday night the 22 officers worked about 14 accidents along the 23 interstate; Saturday morning, another seven. 24 One thing I do want to give kudos to is 25 Mountain Home Volunteer Fire Department. They came out 50 1 and helped us greatly trying to get traffic slowed down 2 and that while TxDOT could get some bridges iced(sic). 3 So I really appreciate their assistance. 4 The jail population is staying about 130, 5 still with about 22 females. That's where we're at. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. 7 County Attorney? 8 MR. HENNEKE: Happy Thanksgiving. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Same to you. 10 You know, Thanksgiving is my favorite 11 holiday, even -- even before Christmas 'cause we -- we 12 have so many things to be thankful for, every one of us 13 do, and I think that we need to leave here and promote 14 a -- a grateful spirit for everything that we have, and 15 I appreciate your saying that. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I thought you liked 17 it 'cause of the food. 18 (Laughter.) 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And the food. I 20 mean, I have these pecans pies floating around in my 21 mind. 22 Okay. I think that just about does her, 23 doesn't it? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Except for one 25 item. 51 1 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Except for your 2 executive session. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did the roller 4 derby folks ever show? 5 You mean other than that? Except for the 6 1.8? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Executive -- 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. Yeah. 9 We're going in executive session, but that's all for 10 the open session stuff, wasn't it? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. We'll 13 recess the Commissioners Court at this time, and it is 14 9:44, and we'll go into executive session to deal with 15 -- consider, discuss, take appropriate action on the 16 request for proposals for emergency medical services 17 which is introduced by Rob Henneke and Commissioner 18 Baldwin. 19 (Recess at 9:44 a.m. to 9:53 a.m.) 20 (The open session was closed at 9:53 a.m. and an executive session was held, the transcript of which is contained in a separate document.) - - - - - - - - - - 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The 12 Commissioners Court is now back in regular session 13 after being in executive session on Item 8. Is there 14 any action to be taken on Item 8? Hearing none, is 15 there any further business to come before this Court? 16 You guys, are y'all in our meeting? 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Different meeting. 18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Different meeting. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Different 20 meeting? 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good. Could you 23 hold it down back there? 24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 110 1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Blame it on Gene. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. After 3 watching A&M play or showing up at the game Saturday, 4 boy. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They didn't play. 6 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's Brown, 7 Texas' coach was over there visiting, getting advice on 8 his offense or defense. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Guy is horrible. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Did you hire him? 11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were talking 12 about him. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I wish they would. 14 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, they talked 15 about giving Sumlin a ticket to UCLA(sic). 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This meeting is 17 over. 18 (Court adjourned at 11:47 a.m.) 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 111 1 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE 2 THE STATE OF TEXAS ) 3 COUNTY OF KENDALL ) 4 I, Lisa C. Greenwalt, Certified Shorthand 5 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, do hereby 6 certify that the above and foregoing contains a true 7 and correct transcription of all portions of the 8 proceedings which occurred in open court and executive 9 session which were reported by me. 10 WITNESS MY OFFICIAL HAND this the _______ day of 11 ____________________, 2013. 12 13 ___________________________ Lisa C. Greenwalt, CSR 6067 14 Expiration Date: 12/31/2015 Greenwalt Court Reporting 15 245 Waring-Welfare Road Boerne, Texas 78006-7926 16 (830) 537-4223 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25