1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Special Session 10 Monday, October 27, 2014 11 9:00 a.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 25 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 2 1 I N D E X October 27, 2014 2 PAGE 3 --- Commissioners' Comments 5 4 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for final approval regarding final alternate plat 5 for Paradocs Retreat, Precinct 4 7 6 1.2 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to accept preliminary revision of plat for Lots 5 7 and 6, Saddlewood Estates; set a public hearing 8 8 1.3 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to go out for annual bids for road base, cold mix, 9 aggregate, emulsion oil, & corrugated metal pipe 14 10 1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to rescind Court Order #33782 and request final 11 approval regarding naming currently unnamed private road Estes Park Lane E., Precinct 2 16 12 1.5 Presentation on Leadership Kerr County program 17 13 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 14 proposal from Kustom Karpets, Inc. for new flooring for 2nd floor of the courthouse 21 15 1.7 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 16 accept Sheriff’s Office Equitable Sharing Agreement and Certification Report 24 17 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 18 swear in James “Charlie” Hicks as Constable, Precinct 2 26 19 1.9 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 20 request to use Flat Rock Lake Park for soccer tournaments/practices 30 21 1.29 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 22 approve 2015 resolution for Indigent Defense Grant program; authorize County Judge to sign 46 23 1.30 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 24 Change Proposal Numbers 12, 18, and 19 for Hill Country Youth Exhibit Center 47 25 3 1 I N D E X (Continued) October 27, 2014 2 PAGE 1.31 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for 3 Court to accept Richard Mosty’s request to cancel Las Colinas Subdivision, Pct. 2, and set a public 4 hearing for Monday, November 24, 2014, at 9 a.m. 50 5 1.10 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on reappointing Donald Oehler to a two-year term 6 on the Kerr County Emergency Services District No. 1 (ESD #1) 53 7 1.13 Public Hearing regarding Kerrville South 8 Wastewater System, Phase 5 54 9 1.14 Discussion regarding Read 2 Win - free library cards 57 10 1.11 Discussion regarding proposal from Hill Country 11 M.H.D.D. Centers for a juvenile mental health court 68 12 1.12 Consider/discuss, take appropriation action on 13 interlocal agreement with City regarding the Kerrville South Wastewater System, Phase 5 72 14 1.15 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 15 regarding update of Center Point/East Kerr County Wastewater project 75 16 1.16 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 17 regarding abandoning unimproved road at Front Street & River Road in Precinct 2 -- 18 1.17 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 19 approve contract for Event Hall sound system at Hill Country Youth Event Center 79 20 1.18 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 21 landscape plan of Hill Country Youth Event Center 80 22 1.19 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on declaring old propane heaters in indoor arena at 23 Hill Country Youth Event Center as surplus items 87 24 1.21 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding relocation of the flagpole at Hill 25 Country Youth Event Center 88 4 1 I N D E X (Continued) October 27, 2014 2 PAGE 1.20 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 3 revised estimate for waterproofing indoor arena wall adjacent to Event Hall at HCYEC 90 4 1.22 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 5 regarding update of construction at Hill Country Youth Event Center and related issues 92 6 1.23 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 7 approve 2015 Resolution for Indigent Defense Grant program; authorize County Judge to sign 94 8 1.24 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 9 enter into bank consulting agreement with Patterson & Associates for Kerr County’s 2015 10 Bank Depository RFP; allow County Judge to sign 94 11 1.25 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for approval of lease agreement with Wells Fargo Bank 12 for Road and Bridge budgeted capital purchases 96 13 1.26 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve contract with Castle Lake Volunteer Fire 14 Department; allow County Judge to sign same 98 15 1.27 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on request from HPN Books to write a letter of 16 support for a book they intend to publish titled "Historic Kerrville/Kerr County" 98 17 1.28 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 18 regarding salary for Records Management officer in County Clerk’s Office. (Executive Session) -- 19 3.1 Action as may be required on matters discussed 20 in Executive Session --- 21 4.1 Pay Bills 100 4.2 Budget Amendments --- 22 4.3 Late Bills --- 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 100 23 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee 24 Assignments 101 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads 102 25 --- Adjourned 103 5 1 On Monday, October 27, 2014, at 9:00 a.m., a special 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 JUDGE POLLARD: It is October 27, 2014, and it's 8 9 a.m. by that clock up there, not mine, and Kerr County 9 Commissioners Court is declared in session. Commissioner 10 Moser is up today for purposes of the -- 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Stand and pray with me, if you 12 will, and remain standing for the pledge. 13 (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. The first item on the agenda 16 is the visitors' input. Is there anybody that has anything 17 they would like to address the Commissioners Court for from 18 the audience? There being none, we'll go to the next one. 19 This is Commissioners' reports and comments. We'll start 20 with Commissioner 1. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, sir, I don't have 22 anything this week. Thank you. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I pass. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. I pass, too. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a brief comment. A lot of 10-27-14 6 1 activity going on at the Hill Country Youth Event Center 2 grounds this weekend with the county fair, well attended. 3 There was a few complaints about -- 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Parking. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- parking and all that stuff, 6 and construction. But overall, everyone, I think, 7 understood. But I was there quite a bit yesterday, good part 8 of yesterday, and it was -- everyone is really excited about 9 what we've done out there, talking about the old barn and the 10 new construction, moving the outdoor arena, the whole thing 11 that we have accomplished out there. A lot of people -- a 12 lot of compliments from people from Kerr County and 13 surrounding counties that were there for the livestock part, 14 which is good news. Everyone is excited to see when it's all 15 complete. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, I ran into a guy at the gun 17 show in Fredericksburg that was a promoter for gun shows, and 18 he told me that he was -- he went and looked at what was 19 done -- is being done out there, and he was really impressed, 20 and he's planning to put on a big gun show. They're doing a 21 lot of advertising in San Antonio, and it's going to be 22 primarily, "Come to the Hill Country. Come to the Hill 23 Country." So, it's going over well. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the report from the fair 25 people that I talked to, the directors that were out there, 10-27-14 7 1 they had a very good crowd. They were concerned about some 2 attendance of having to -- things were kind of spread out a 3 little bit. But overall, I think they were -- actually, some 4 of the best attendance was at the dance and the evening 5 events after the rodeo that they've had, so they were very, 6 very excited about the whole facility, and can't wait for 7 next year when it's even more available. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I too attended the fair, and 9 very good attendance. I'd like to remind everybody that this 10 Friday night at the Divide School, their wild game dinner 11 kickoff starting about 4 o'clock, I believe, Friday there at 12 the school. And then on a more somber note, west Kerr 13 County, and especially the youth camps in Kerr County, lost 14 an icon last week; that was Carl Hawkins passed away. We 15 need to remember to keep all of his family in our prayers. 16 And I believe services are Wednesday morning at Notre Dame. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, thank you very much. 18 We'll go to Item 1.1 on the agenda; consider, discuss, and 19 take appropriate action for the Court's final approval 20 regarding final alternate plat for Paradocs Retreat, Volume 21 698, Page 71, and Volume 1759, Page 584, Precinct 4. Leonard 22 Odom and Charlie Hastings. By the way, for those that 23 haven't noticed it, these are two doctors that own this 24 subdivision, and you get the name, "pair of docs." Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sounds like a trombone 10-27-14 8 1 player to me. (Laughter.) 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Go ahead, Charlie. 3 MR. HASTINGS: Dr. Dan Bacon and Georgia Bacon own 4 Lot 1, and Tarrytown Ventures own Lot 2 of this tract, and in 5 October of 2009, Dr. Bacon sold Lot 2 to Tarrytown Ventures 6 without platting the property. He's here today to take it 7 through the alternative plat process to make it formal. 8 We're asking for a Commissioners Court final approval 9 regarding the final alternate plat for Paradocs Retreat, 10 Volume 698, Page 71, and Volume 1759, Page 584. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I just want to comment. When 12 Dr. Bacon found out he needed to plat this property, he 13 immediately went to work, and has worked with Environmental 14 Health and Road and Bridge, and therefore, I move for 15 approval as stated in the agenda item. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded for 18 final approval for that plat for Paradocs Retreat be 19 approved. Is there any further discussion? There being 20 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 21 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 23 thank you. And let's go to Item 1.2; consider, discuss, and 24 take appropriate action for the Court to accept the 25 preliminary revision of plat for Lots 5 and 6 of Saddlewood 10-27-14 9 1 Estates, Lot 2, Volume 6, Page 319, and set a public hearing, 2 Precinct 1. Leonard Odom and Charlie Hastings. 3 MR. HASTINGS: Douglas and Kathleen Matey own Lots 4 5 and 6 of Saddlewood Estates, Block 2. The Mateys would 5 like to alter the center line lot between Lots 5 and 6. 6 That's what this plat will do. The property falls within the 7 ETJ of the city of Kerrville. The City of Kerrville allows 8 the amended plat process when altering center lot lines 9 between lots that are owned by the same individual. However, 10 Kerr County only allows the amended plat process when there 11 is a mistake on the plat, and there are no mistakes, so this 12 plat will need to go through the revision of plat process, 13 along with the public hearing. The current lots are Lot 5, 14 3.58 acres, and Lot 6, 4.45 acres. The proposed change will 15 have a Lot 5A at 4.13 acres, and Lot 6A at 3.90 acres. This 16 is just kind of a swap. At this time, we're asking the Court 17 to set a public hearing for Monday, December 8th, 2014, at 18 9 a.m., for the revision of plat for Lots 5 and 6 of 19 Saddlewood Estates, Block 2, Volume 6, Page 319. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I got a question for 21 Commissioner Letz. The City, if they -- the way I read this, 22 the way I understand it is if you -- if someone owns both 23 pieces of property and they want to move the center line one 24 way or the other, the City says that's okay, you don't have 25 to go through a long, drawn-out process. Which, in my mind, 10-27-14 10 1 that's the correct way to do it. Why is it that we -- it 2 causes us to go through another platting process? 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The state law is different for 4 municipalities and counties. We've -- I've looked at it, and 5 we're going to -- are working on revising our subdivision 6 rules. We'll get a County Attorney opinion on how "and" is 7 interpreted in the municipal code. The way we've generally 8 done it, if you have an "and," you have to do both, or meet 9 both qualifications. Therefore, the County doesn't have the 10 authority to do what the City does. That's the reason. It's 11 not that we've chosen this; it's just that the state law 12 doesn't allow us to do it this way. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's a pretty good reason. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So -- but, you know, there's at 15 least one person in the room that -- that would like us to 16 interpret that provision a little bit differently, and 17 probably more than one. 18 MR. VOELKEL: At least one. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: At least one, maybe two. And, 20 you know, it's -- there was a change several years ago to 21 state law to allow us to do a correction, and it didn't -- we 22 weren't even allowed to do a correction without going through 23 this whole process again previously, but I think 24 Representative Hilderbran got some law changed in -- 25 JUDGE POLLARD: They wanted to build something over 10-27-14 11 1 that line, some kind of structure? Is that it? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, they're just modifying 3 the boundary, is what they're doing. 4 MR. VOELKEL: On this, yeah. They own -- and, 5 actually, the state law doesn't have to be that they own both 6 lots. Two owners of those two lots can do that as an amended 7 plat if they agree. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 9 MR. VOELKEL: And they bought those two lots, built 10 a house -- or they bought a house that was already built, I 11 think, and it's -- the property line is closer to that. If 12 you look at on the plat, I've shown where the location of the 13 house is, and how they've cleared a spot for the house on Lot 14 6, and it kind of puts it in the middle. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: What -- 16 MR. VOELKEL: And it doesn't create a -- two 17 smaller lots. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's too bad that we can't 19 do that. I'm with -- 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But if that's the law, that's 22 the law. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't know about two 24 owners, though. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Doesn't make any difference. 10-27-14 12 1 They're just adjusting a lot line. The law doesn't require 2 it to be one property owner; it can be two different property 3 owners. If they can agree to adjust the property line, it 4 doesn't require platting in the city. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I would think if there 6 were two property owners, though, that you would want 7 platting just to keep a record of it. 8 MR. VOELKEL: Oh, they're not talking about not 9 platting it. They're talking about an amended plat as 10 opposed to revision of plat. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see you've been on the 12 dark side. 13 MR. VOELKEL: I have been; I live there. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You get back over here and 15 stay over here. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll note that the -- and we 17 have done this before. Our verbiage is different on these 18 plats. We both have to approve it, and we're fine with 19 accepting the city's language on the plat. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: How far do they want to -- how far 21 is the line going to move, distance-wise? 22 MR. VOELKEL: I don't remember. If you look at the 23 plat, it kind of just centers up the line between the house 24 and the new house. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He's got the before and after. 10-27-14 13 1 I think this is just a smaller map. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: A straight line, not a zig-zag. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is the way it was, and 4 that's the way they want to do it. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: What is that distance? 6 MR. VOELKEL: I think it's only 40, 50 feet. I'm 7 just guessing; I can't remember. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 50 feet? 9 MR. VOELKEL: I think 40 or 50 feet. The back 10 corner's not moving; it's just tweaking it out and bending it 11 so that it kind of separates the houses. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I move that we set a 13 public hearing December the 8th at 9 a.m. on this -- on this 14 agenda item. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we set 17 a public hearing on this agenda item. Is there any further 18 discussion? There being none, those in favor, signify by 19 raising your right hand. 20 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 21 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Commissioner -- or Charlie, is 23 there a date and time for that public hearing? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, December 8th, 9 a.m. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, okay. 10-27-14 14 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: December 8th, 9 a.m. Isn't 2 that what you said, Charlie? 3 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay then. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Now we'll go to Item 1.3 on 6 the agenda; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 7 go out for annual bids for road base, cold mix, aggregate, 8 emulsion oil, and corrugated metal pipe. Leonard Odom and 9 Charlie Hastings. 10 MR. HASTINGS: Yes. Judge and Commissioners, we're 11 asking permission to advertise for bid and accept bids, and 12 bring them back to you to be opened on December 8th at 13 9:10 a.m. And at that time, we'd like for the Court to award 14 the bids for road base material, cold mix, black base, trap 15 rock aggregate, asphalt, emulsion oil, and corrugated metal 16 pipe. We do this annually. We do it at this time annually, 17 because now is the time to get the best prices for next year. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's the same specs as last 19 year? 20 MR. HASTINGS: The same specifications as last 21 year. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that -- the trap rock 23 that's used, if I'm using the right term, is that the larger 24 aggregate? 25 MR. HASTINGS: Well, we get it in two different 10-27-14 15 1 grades, Grade 5 and Grade 3. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that -- give me some 3 dimensions on Grade 5 and Grade 3. 4 MR. HASTINGS: The -- Kelly, do you know offhand 5 what the size of Grade 5 is? 6 MS. HOFFER: I'd say one is probably -- the larger 7 one is probably anywhere from a half inch up to five-eighths, 8 and then the small rock is going to be down to likely about 9 three-eighths. We usually put the larger rock down -- the 10 numbers work the opposite. The smaller the number, the 11 larger the rock. Three is going to be the first one down, 12 and then you're going to put your five down for just a little 13 bit quieter sound when you're traveling down the road. 14 MR. HASTINGS: It will interlock the big -- 15 MS. HOFFER: It's a lot louder with the larger 16 rock. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But this gives you the 18 capability to do either? 19 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, okay. 21 MR. HASTINGS: Depending. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Some people really hate the 23 sound and all the noise of the larger aggregate, but you got 24 the capability. 25 MS. HOFFER: The 5 takes care of that. 10-27-14 16 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I move for approval 2 of the agenda item. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 5 approval of this agenda item, for -- to go out for bids on 6 this. Any further discussion? There being none, those in 7 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 8 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 9 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. All right, 10 1.4; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 11 rescind Court Order Number 33782 and request the Court's 12 final approval regarding naming currently unnamed private 13 road Estes Park Lane East, Precinct 2. Leonard Odom and 14 Charlie Hastings. 15 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. We are asking the Court 16 to rescind Court Order Number 33782, which would have set a 17 public hearing, and for the Court to give their final 18 approval regarding naming this private road Estes Park Lane. 19 We brought this forward to you a couple weeks ago on October 20 the 14th to set that public hearing. Since then, we've had 21 more information brought to our attention. Mark Del Toro 22 from the Kerr 911 office did some more research, and he said 23 that the files that we had from KCAD at the time were 24 incorrect; that the property owners, whoever made this 25 request, also own the property that fronts on the road, and 10-27-14 17 1 they own both pieces, so there's no need to have a public 2 hearing any more at this time. That's what we're asking. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So you're asking for approval 4 of this change? 5 MR. HASTINGS: To approve the name of the street to 6 Estes Park; it's a private road now, and to rescind Court 7 Order Number 33782. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second? All right. Is 11 there any further discussion? There being none, those in 12 favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. 13 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 15 1.5, presentation on Leadership Kerr County program. Tracy 16 Soldan and Harold Dean. Good morning, sir. 17 MS. DEAN: Morning, Judge, Commissioners. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm willing to bet that 19 you're Harold Dean. 20 MS. DEAN: You got that right. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: He had a 50 percent chance. 22 MS. DEAN: He did, didn't he? (Laughter.) Well, 23 at least we got something right today, didn't we? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. 25 MS. DEAN: First of all, I'd like to thank the 10-27-14 18 1 Court for approving and allowing one of your -- your 2 employees to go through the program. I'm not sure in the 3 past if you've had any that have passed through the 4 leadership program, but Tracy is one of our current members. 5 I'm sure there's -- I mean, in this room there's probably 6 some alumni, since this has been going 30 years. And you see 7 there under how this was formed -- I imagine most of you 8 remember Sy Ragsdale. I remember him very well. He allowed 9 my son to go to camp out there at Camp Stewart for 11 years, 10 so I knew him very well. I didn't know he started this 11 program until I got here, though. But this program is -- is 12 created to help bring people into the fold of volunteering, 13 to be part of commissions, boards, run for office, even. 14 Some do. Most all of your programs have been around for 15 quite some time. 16 In the mid-'80's is when the leadership program 17 started. They were started by Chambers of Commerce, and they 18 continue today operating under the auspices of your Chamber 19 of Commerce. Some of them have taken a life of their own and 20 become a 501(c)(3), and they have continued on with processes 21 that -- that we can't continue on with. But this one here 22 has been involved in the community for 30 years. It's a 23 great program. There's over 400-plus alumni that have gone 24 through the class. That's an eight -- eight-month class, 25 with a retreat overnight to get the 24 people that go through 10-27-14 19 1 the program really used to being -- working together in an 2 environment where they -- they can help each other solve 3 problems and create good things for the community that they 4 live in. I've been involved with four; this is my fourth 5 leadership program. I went through the leadership program 6 myself in 1984 in Brazos County, and most of them are the 7 same. There are a few differences between the types of 8 classes that are held, but all in all, we try to cover every 9 aspect of the community, how the community works, from state 10 government to county government to federal government to 11 local City Council government, so they know how they all 12 intertwine, how they work together. And they do. They have 13 to, in a lot of ways. 14 And then, of course, you know, on the aspect of 15 personal relationships, they learn about 20-some-odd other 16 people that -- that would become their friends that they 17 might not ever have known before. So, the programs are good 18 programs; most all of your communities of any size have one. 19 I'd recommend to you that you keep trying to allow an 20 employee of the county to go through, if they so choose to. 21 We seek out people every year. We choose 24 around August, 22 and the program starts in September with an overnight 23 retreat, and then we have one class per month for eight 24 months. And you can see in your information here, I put the 25 subject matter that that class will go through this year. 10-27-14 20 1 The classes change a little bit in topic from year to year, 2 depending on what's important in the community. Some things 3 do change; not a lot, but some. We try to cover everything, 4 that aspect of -- I'd call it the nuts and bolts of how a 5 community works. 6 Also, I gave you one sample of a class called 7 environmental session. You can see what we cover. It's 8 almost a full day. We start at 9 a.m., and we finish around 9 4:00. Sometimes there's a -- a tour of something. I think 10 this year, they'll be touring a lot of different businesses 11 in town along with the City, County, and they'll also go to 12 Austin this year. That will be quite enlightening for them, 13 since it will be a legislative year in Austin. And we 14 encourage the elected officials to go with us. We -- we rent 15 a bus. Anybody that would like to that's an elected official 16 can go with us on that trip. Some of us break off and go -- 17 through our governmental affairs committee, Ward Jones, we'll 18 break off and go to our senators, federal offices. We'll 19 touch base with all of them while we're there in Austin while 20 the class does other things. So, I'll be glad to answer any 21 questions you might have about the leadership program of Kerr 22 County. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sounds good. Thank you, 24 everyone. You're here in November, aren't you? 25 MS. DEAN: That's correct. 10-27-14 21 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: What's the cost? How is it 2 funded? 3 MS. DEAN: We charge $700 for each person to go 4 through the program, and that allows us to do everything we 5 do for them during the class days, inclusive of food, 6 inclusive of rental, if we need a rental, staff time, 7 paperwork, you name it. So, there's not a lot of -- of 8 additional revenue left over after the program is done. And 9 then, of course, they do graduate with some sort of a 10 recognition plaque or something. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I just think this is an 12 excellent tool for teaching in the area, and I applaud you 13 for what y'all are doing, and thank you. 14 MS. DEAN: Thanks, Bob. Appreciate that. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Very good. 16 MS. DEAN: Thanks, Judge. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, sir. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, we'll go to Item 1.6; 20 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on proposal 21 from Kustom Karpets, Inc., for new flooring for the second 22 floor of the courthouse. Tim? 23 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. This is not -- this has 24 nothing to do with restoration. This is the money that we 25 have set aside to do some flooring on the second floor, up 10-27-14 22 1 around the District Judges and down the hallways and stuff. 2 I decided to bring this to Court and get the Commissioners' 3 approval. I would like to do the hallways in the foyer area 4 in front of the elevator and the area around that goes behind 5 the glass doors. I would like to do that area first, since 6 that is the most visible each and every day. And when we get 7 time -- when we do have the money and the time to do the 8 courtrooms, I have been asked to please put carpet back in 9 those rooms for the acoustics -- you know, for the sound in 10 there and stuff. And I believe that y'all do have a bid 11 there from Kustom Karpets somewhere. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. we do. 13 MR. BOLLIER: And this is the tile. This is 14 plank -- this is Durham plank. This is what we're going to 15 go to; this is what it's going to look like. That's the 16 color we're going to use. I just want to get the approval of 17 the Court before -- 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Turn it around, show the audience 19 too. 20 MR. BOLLIER: Oh, it's good, ain't it? (Laughter.) 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Tim, is that the kind that 22 clips together? 23 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. It's -- actually, it tells 24 you. It's seven and a half -- it's 7 inches wide and 25 40 inches long, so it will look like a wood floor when it's 10-27-14 23 1 all said and done. It is very easy to maintain; I do not 2 have to wax and do all that kind of stuff. All I have to do 3 is wet mop it, dry mop it with a -- with -- you know, with a 4 push broom, stuff like that. It will be real easy; it will 5 be maintainable. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This has to come to 7 Commissioners Court? 8 MR. BOLLIER: No, it did not. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: He elected to do that. 10 MR. BOLLIER: I elected to do so, because I wanted 11 to make sure everybody agreed on this color. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Which area? You're doing 13 everything? 14 MR. BOLLIER: Not the courtrooms for now. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not the courtrooms. So, the 16 foyer area, but down the halls, you're going all the way down 17 the halls and around the -- 18 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- offices? 20 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. That's another reason why 21 I brought it here. The Commissioner wanted me to go another 22 route. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Have the District Judges looked at 24 it? 25 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 10-27-14 24 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They like it? 3 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's good. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It makes sense in the high-traffic 6 area, especially where the clients meet with the lawyers at 7 that table. Man, there's all kinds of stuff that got spilled 8 there, and the carpet's torn and frayed and stained. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 10 MR. BOLLIER: Duct-taped. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: This should wear against that 12 public use a lot better. 13 MR. BOLLIER: This is just, more than anything, 14 Commissioner Moser, to make sure that everybody was on board 15 with Tim. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Tim. 18 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 1.7; consider, discuss, 20 and take appropriate action to accept the Sheriff's Office 21 Equitable Sharing Agreement and Certificate report -- 22 Certification Report. James Robles. 23 MS. HARGIS: I'll stand in for him. This is a 24 grant that we approve every year, and we have to have the 25 Court approve the certification to apply for the grant. 10-27-14 25 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Is there any discussion 2 of it? If not, I'll entertain a motion. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Where is it? I missed it 4 somewhere. 5 MS. HARGIS: I gave it to Jody. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Can you just describe it to us, 7 Jeannie? 8 MS. HARGIS: To be honest with you, it's an 9 equitable sharing plan with the federal government. If there 10 is a federal case, and we get the opportunity to be a -- you 11 know, we're -- we receive part of that case, it's an 12 equitable sharing plan. We received one a couple of years 13 ago out of San Antonio; there was a federal lawsuit, and 14 there was restitution to Kerr County, and in order for us to 15 accept that, we'd have to sign off on this agreement with the 16 federal government. It's kind of like the forfeiture funds 17 that we do with the attorneys. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: It's really up to the federal 19 government as to whether or not we get it, and we got to -- 20 we have to accept it. 21 MS. HARGIS: Yes. We don't get it very often. 22 Since I've been here, I think we've gotten it twice. There 23 has to be a case, but in order for us to receive it -- which 24 it's kind of like an interlocal agreement, except it's called 25 equitable sharing with the federal government. 10-27-14 26 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Has the County Attorney 2 reviewed the agreement? 3 MS. HARGIS: No. 4 MS. STEBBINS: No, I haven't reviewed it. 5 MS. HARGIS: It's just the certification sheet. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a motion to approve, 7 subject to approval of the County Attorney. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'll second. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded that 10 it be approved subject to the approval of the County 11 Attorney. Is there any further discussion? There being 12 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 13 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right. 15 1.8; consider, discuss, and take action to swear in James 16 "Charlie" Hicks as Constable, Precinct 2. Commissioner 17 Moser, do you want to -- we did this last week to get him to 18 work, but it was scheduled today for -- for before the 19 public. And there are two statements; one is a statement he 20 makes, and the other one is an oath of office, and would you 21 like to administer that? 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think you should do that, 23 Judge. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: You're welcome -- I did it last 25 week. I'll share it with you. 10-27-14 27 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. All right, good enough. 2 All right. Well, thank you. I know Charlie was here; he 3 went through the process. 4 MR. HICKS: Yes, sir. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He was selected. I think he's 6 already hit the ground running, as you said. So, we're here 7 to swear you in. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Why don't you go around? 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I shall do that. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Charlie, what does your 11 mother think about you swearing? What does she say about 12 this? 13 MR. HICKS: She's got the soap bar ready. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, raise your right hand 16 and repeated after me: I, James Allen Hicks. 17 MR. HICKS: I, James Allen Hicks. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do solemnly swear. 19 MR. HICKS: Do solemnly swear. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That I will faithfully execute 21 the duties. 22 MR. HICKS: That I will faithfully execute the 23 duties. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Of the office of Constable, 25 Precinct 2, Kerr County. 10-27-14 28 1 MR. HICKS: Of the office of Constable, Precinct 2, 2 Kerr County. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Of the state of Texas. 4 MR. HICKS: Of the state of Texas. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And will, to the best of my 6 ability, preserve, protect, and defend. 7 MR. HICKS: And will, to the best of my ability, 8 preserve, protect, and defend. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's the test. The 10 Constitution and laws of the United States. 11 MR. HICKS: The Constitution and laws of the United 12 States. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And this state, so help me 14 God. 15 MR. HICKS: And this state, so help me God. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Congratulations. 17 (Applause.) 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. The other one is 19 Statement of Elected/Appointed Officials. Repeat after me, 20 if you will: I, James Allen Hicks. 21 MR. HICKS: I, James Allen Hicks. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do solemnly swear that I have 23 not directly or indirectly paid. 24 MR. HICKS: I solemnly swear that I have not 25 directly or indirectly paid. 10-27-14 29 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Offered, promised to pay. 2 MR. HICKS: Offered, promised to pay. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or contributed or promised to 4 contribute any money. 5 MR. HICKS: Contributed, or promised to contribute 6 any money. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or thing of value. 8 MR. HICKS: Or thing of value. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or promised any public office. 10 MR. HICKS: Or promised any public office. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or employment for the giving 12 or withholding of a vote. 13 MR. HICKS: Can I read that? (Laughter.) Or 14 promised any public office or employment for the giving or 15 withholding of a vote. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: At the election. 17 MR. HICKS: At the election. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Which I was elected. 19 MR. HICKS: Which I was elected. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or rewarded to secure. 21 MR. HICKS: Or rewarded to secure. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: My appointment or 23 confirmation. 24 MR. HICKS: My appointment or confirmation. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Whichever the case may be. 10-27-14 30 1 MR. HICKS: Whichever the case may be. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So help me God. 3 MR. HICKS: So help me God. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Congratulations. 5 MR. HICKS: Thank you. 6 (Applause.) 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Go get 'em, Charlie. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Very good, Charlie. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thank you. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We're glad to have you. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We have a timed one 12 now, and that clock up there indicates it's 9:30. 1.9; 13 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on request to 14 use Flat Rock Lake Park for soccer tournament practices. 15 Elias Gomez, together with interpreter. Good morning. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Good morning. 17 MR. GOMEZ: Buenos días. 18 MS. CRUCES: Good morning, he says. 19 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 20 MS. CRUCES: He is interested to -- he's interested 21 in the park. He's just wondering what the price is -- the 22 price is going to be. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think the -- as long as we 24 don't have to do anything extra, they can use it at no cost. 25 (Interpreted.) 10-27-14 31 1 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 2 MS. CRUCES: He was wondering if it could be 3 leveled, and that's it. 4 MR. GOMEZ: Nada más. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Tim? I don't know that -- 6 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 7 MR. BOLLIER: It's pretty level. 8 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 9 MS. CRUCES: He says that two days ago, there was 10 machinery out there; they were working on it. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Where's Mr. Hastings? 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What are we talking about? 13 Talking about the dog park? 14 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We've had machinery out 16 there working on the dog park? 17 MR. HASTINGS: That's right. 18 MR. BOLLIER: Not that I know of. 19 MR. HASTINGS: Yes. 20 MS. HOFFER: We had grader training through TEEX. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Grader training? 22 MS. HOFFER: So it was road work. That was just to 23 train some of our younger staff. 24 MR. BOLLIER: Oh, yeah. 25 (Interpreted.) 10-27-14 32 1 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 2 MS. CRUCES: He said that what they did those days, 3 that it made it level. If there is any way that they could 4 level the rest of it. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: How big of an area are we talking 6 about to level? 7 (Interpreted.) 8 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 9 MS. CRUCES: Half of it. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. How many soccer fields does 11 he want to put out there? 12 (Interpreting) 13 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 14 MS. CRUCES: He said only with that amount, he can 15 only put two of them. 16 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 17 MS. CRUCES: He said there's a lot of rocks out 18 there. 19 MR. BOLLIER: That's true. 20 MS. CRUCES: He said if it's possible. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I missed part of this, but 22 what -- if I may, what is the issue with doing it in the -- 23 in the parking area by the road? 24 MR. BOLLIER: The polo field? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Yeah. 10-27-14 33 1 MS. BOLIN: The polo -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Where the public can see. I 3 think that will be pretty neat for the public. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: He wants to do it every Sunday. 5 MR. BOLLIER: Yes. And -- 6 JUDGE POLLARD: And if there's going to be any 7 activities out there, that's the parking area for -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: And we couldn't use the parking 10 area every Sunday. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But I thought he said last 12 time he was here that he would -- if there was an 13 interference or something like that, he just wouldn't use it. 14 Is that correct? 15 (Interpreting.) 16 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 17 MS. CRUCES: Yeah, he would need it every Sunday. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. All right, thank you. 19 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, we're going to commit it 21 to him every Sunday, any of it? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think it's committed; 23 it's open. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I mean, that's what 25 he's saying, though. You know, he wants us to commit it to 10-27-14 34 1 him. 2 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think we need to be -- two 4 things. I think, first, we need to be clear that it's open 5 to the public. We're not -- he does not have exclusive use 6 of those fields. It's part of a public county park, and he 7 can use it. And if somebody else is out there, they have the 8 right to use it as well. 9 (Interpreted.) 10 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 11 MS. CRUCES: Yes, it's going to be public. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess my second question was, 13 if he's going to leave any kind of soccer goals or something 14 like that out there, I think that we need to have a very 15 short understanding that the County Attorney needs to look at 16 as to leaving things out there or doing anything. I mean, I 17 just don't want -- he doesn't have the -- if he's going to 18 even go out there mowing grass or picking up rocks, I think 19 we need to have some kind of an agreement, because that's 20 county property, and we can't have citizens just going out 21 there and changing county property. 22 (Interpreted.) 23 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 24 (Low-voice discussion off the record.) 25 MS. CRUCES: Are y'all talking about -- are y'all 10-27-14 35 1 talking about the first place or the second place? 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: The park. 3 MS. CRUCES: The one -- the second one? 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The dog park. 5 MS. CRUCES: The dog park. 6 (Interpreted.) 7 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'd like to see, if the -- I 9 think if it's going to be used on a regular basis -- 10 naturally, it's for any of the public to use. If -- but some 11 type -- since it's going to be used on a regular basis, some 12 type of short agreement, and also look into, does he need 13 to -- for his team to cover some -- have some type of special 14 liability insurance for injury to the players or the 15 spectators? That's outside of our control. 16 (Interpreted.) 17 MS. CRUCES: They're insured. 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And insure that -- 19 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 20 MS. CRUCES: He said everybody, even including the 21 people that are watching, if they get hit by a ball, 22 everybody's insured. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: We need to make sure that 24 Kerr County is listed as an additional insured in that 25 policy. 10-27-14 36 1 (Interpreted.) 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Which means it needs to run 3 through there. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is what that means. 6 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: We do need a contract, then, and we 8 are committing to it. 9 MS. CRUCES: He said he did obtain the -- 10 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 11 MS. CRUCES: He's got the insurance through State 12 Farm. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think to move it forward, I 14 think, really -- I mean, we're fine with it, I think. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I got a question. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Well, I think the -- we 17 need some sort of an agreement, contract, whatever you want 18 to call it. The County Attorney can help with that. Very 19 short, simple, as to what our responsibilities are, which are 20 none, virtually, and what their responsibilities are, which 21 are some. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, are we agreeing to -- 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I've got a question. 24 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 25 (Low-voice discussion off the record.) 10-27-14 37 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What is the -- my concern is 2 it's open to the public. We all agree with that. A lot of 3 people take their dogs out there, and they let them loose, 4 and they run all over that entire area. How is that 5 compatible with a soccer game that's going out in that area? 6 (Interpreted.) 7 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 8 MS. CRUCES: He said that he has observed that when 9 there's something going on there, that the people that are 10 walking their dogs, that they'll make sure that they don't go 11 towards that. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's not possible. Let me 13 -- let me finish. People take their dogs in that area and 14 they turn them loose. That's the reason it's called a dog 15 park. They do not have to be on a leash. They have to be on 16 a leash in the other part of the park, but they take them 17 there and they let them run, and the dogs run all over the 18 place. So I don't -- I don't know -- I'm having difficulty 19 understanding how this is compatible. Are we going to close 20 the dog park while we're doing soccer? Tim's saying no. 21 What do you mean, Tim? 22 MR. BOLLIER: We're not closing the dog park. We 23 can't. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: My question, then, is 25 legitimate. How is it compatible to have dogs running all 10-27-14 38 1 over the place? And there's a lot of people that use that 2 for that purpose, and it's been used for years that way. And 3 now we're saying -- let me finish. Now we're saying we're 4 going to not allow that, even though it's open to the public 5 to do everything. My question is compatibility. How is that 6 compatible with having soccer games and people letting their 7 dogs run? 8 (Interpreted.) 9 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 10 MS. CRUCES: He says that he has played at the 11 Salvation Army, and that people have taken their dogs, and 12 what they do, they have them on a leash, and they never go 13 into the field. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That is -- that is not -- I 15 don't know how I'm not making myself clear. People take 16 their dogs out there, not on a leash, and they let them run. 17 Now what we're going to do is require people in that area, 18 from now on, on Sunday, if you take your dog out there, it's 19 got to be on a leash? So we're changing it? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: See, I think I disagree with 21 your interpretation. We have never designated that a dog 22 park. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'm just saying that's what 24 people do. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know, but what we have done 10-27-14 39 1 is said we will not enforce the county leash law in that 2 portion of the park. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But we have never said that 5 they have rights over anyone else using it. If their dogs 6 are interfering -- if you go out there and have a picnic over 7 there, and a dog runs into it and steals a piece of chicken 8 from Buster's box, which happened not too long ago, -- 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Which happened. That dog 10 has not been back. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- he has no right to do -- 12 JUDGE POLLARD: And anybody that interferes with 13 his food, that's a serious issue. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I think -- I don't say that 15 they're compatible, but both of them have to work it out. 16 It's a public park. We don't enforce a leash law there. He 17 understands that. But the people that are turning dogs loose 18 have no right to have their dogs interfering with other 19 stuff, either. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So we're just going to 21 have -- 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let them work it out. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Free-for-all. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Free-for-all. That's exactly 25 it, just a free-for-all. So people will be there with their 10-27-14 40 1 dogs, and it will be on leashes. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, we may require them to 4 be on a leash in the other part of the park, so that's the 5 reason -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Because they were a problem. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. So, therefore, we've 8 gone down to the area where the dog park is, okay, to let 9 them run. And they take Rottweilers and everything else out 10 there, you know, pretty big dogs. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How many dogs chase balls? 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: All of them. 14 MS. STEBBINS: Good question. How many dogs chase 15 balls? 16 MR. BOLLIER: I have a suggestion. If we start 17 having problems there, then we just have to do something 18 else. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's going to be a problem, 20 okay? Don't say "if" we're -- it's going to be a problem. 21 So, go for it. But the dogs are going to chase your balls, 22 bottom line. (Laughter.) 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can we get that on the front 24 page? (Laughter.) 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I imagine there's going to 10-27-14 41 1 be a lot of people with a lot of dogs out there. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I want to watch. 3 MR. BOLLIER: The only -- what I see, there's a lot 4 of -- there's a lot of people that go down to that dog park 5 each and every day, seven days a week, and it's basically the 6 same people each and every day. But you also have those 7 people -- like I hear Rottweilers; I hear pit bulls. There 8 are people that take dogs down there, and some of them aren't 9 -- I mean, we haven't had a problem down there in a while, 10 you know, another dog attacking a dog, or dog attacking a 11 person, but I'm -- what's -- I'm kind of afraid of -- once 12 they start running around down there with those soccer balls, 13 and they're running around, what are we going to have? You 14 know, I mean, it's just going to -- where's Ray Garcia? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He left. 16 MR. BOLLIER: What are we going to have with -- I 17 mean, you know, just a -- you know, just the dog itself? You 18 know, you got them turned loose. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Back to my word "compatible." 20 MR. BOLLIER: Mm-hmm. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Question mark, okay? 22 MR. BOLLIER: Big time. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We're going to give it a try. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Try. 25 MR. BOLLIER: Try it. If we have a problem, we'll 10-27-14 42 1 do something else. 2 (Interpreted.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: There's going to have to be a 4 provision to that contract for if it doesn't work, we got -- 5 MS. STEBBINS: Sorry, say that again? 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But people -- you're not going 7 to be allowed to tell people they can't have their dogs out 8 there while you're playing soccer. 9 (Interpreted.) 10 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 11 MS. CRUCES: He said it won't be a problem. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll try it. 14 MS. CRUCES: He thinks they won't be a problem. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Does he understand that in the 16 contract, there's going to be a provision that if it doesn't 17 work -- we're going to try it, but if it doesn't work, we may 18 have to terminate the agreement at our election if there's a 19 problem out there? 20 (Interpreted.) 21 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 22 MS. STEBBINS: Judge Pollard? 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes? 24 MS. STEBBINS: Did you answer his question about 25 leveling the field? 10-27-14 43 1 JUDGE POLLARD: There is no agreement to level the 2 field. 3 MS. STEBBINS: Okay. 4 MS. CRUCES: They're interested on the back side, 5 not the front side, so maybe that -- you know, the dogs will 6 stay in the front side instead of the back side. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I think we should have an 8 agreement drawn up outlining what we've just talked about, 9 and with the understanding that the County Attorney will draw 10 that agreement up, and naturally for his review, with the 11 stipulations that we've discussed here. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: One other thing I'd like to see 13 added, too. We're not agreeing to level it, but if they want 14 to pay somebody, or they're interested in paying somebody to 15 go out there and level it, they can bring that back to us, 16 and -- for approval at that time, and we might agree to it. 17 It just depends on -- we need a little more information about 18 the specific area, and -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: On a map. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: -- how much leveling is going to 21 be, what area he's going to be doing. And if he comes back 22 with that, and they're willing to pay somebody to come level 23 it, then he's got to come back to Commissioners Court for 24 approval, okay? 25 MS. HOFFER: One other thing. If they want to go 10-27-14 44 1 that route, we probably have floodplain in that park, so 2 whoever would -- if you want to go that route and then you do 3 any kind of work with equipment, it would have to be 4 permitted through the floodplain administrator, so -- just so 5 we know. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Now you're getting federal folks 7 involved. 8 (Interpreted.) 9 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 10 MS. CRUCES: He's telling me that he's got people 11 that could come to do it; that they have machinery, and they 12 could come and level it. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He'll need to -- he needs to 14 get with the County Engineer and go over it specifically, and 15 we need a plat of where it is, and we need an agreement 16 first. 17 MS. CRUCES: Okay. 18 (Interpreted.) 19 (Mr. Gomez speaking Spanish.) 20 MS. CRUCES: He will -- he said okay. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And I'd like to make a motion 22 to authorize the County Attorney to draw up an agreement 23 regarding this agenda item, subject to our approval at a 24 future meeting once that agreement is drawn up. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 10-27-14 45 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? There 2 being none, those in favor, signify by raising your right 3 hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Mr. Moser 6 voted for it. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thank you. 8 MS. CRUCES: Thank you. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't have any problem; it's 10 just going to be an issue. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, that may be, but -- 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If it is, I agree with you, 13 then we cancel it. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's got an out. Right, it's 15 got an out. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We have some timed 17 items too on the supplemental addendum to the agenda. That's 18 Item 1.29; consider, discuss, and take appropriate -- 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Those aren't timed items. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: I thought they were. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can go to them if you want. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Let's -- any objection if we go to 23 them? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't have any problem. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, let's go to Item 1.29 10-27-14 46 1 out of order. Somebody told me -- I thought Jody told me -- 2 MS. HOFFER: 1.30 was put in for 9:20; it just 3 didn't get put down as a timed item. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: They were to be timed items? 5 MS. HOFFER: It was submitted as 9:20. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Somebody told me they were. 7 Anyway, Item 1.29; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 8 action to approve the 2015 resolution for the Indigent 9 Defense Grant Program, and authorize the County Judge to sign 10 the resolution. Jeannie Hargis. 11 MS. HARGIS: Yes, sir. I think all of you have in 12 front of you -- you should have in front of you the Indigent 13 Defense Grant. This is the resolution that we have to pass 14 every year before I can actually file the paperwork to the 15 grant. The resolution is a resolution provided by the State 16 that we agree to file our costs for the indigent attorneys in 17 order to make us eligible for a grant. This last year, we 18 got 85,000. We were supposed to get 44, so that does help 19 offset our indigent defense. But we just have to sign this 20 resolution to go along with the grant accounting paperwork 21 from last year. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Same as last year? 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Same as last year. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 10-27-14 47 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? There 2 being none, those in favor, signify by raising your right 3 hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Let's go to 6 1.30; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 7 change -- on Change Proposal Numbers 12, on the roof access, 8 and 18, the Type C lighting, and 19, credit exterior building 9 signage, for the Hill Country Youth Exhibit Center. 10 Mr. Hastings. 11 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. Change Proposal Number 12 12 in the amount of $2,072 adds a 30-inch by 30-inch roof 13 access door for safety and efficient mechanical maintenance 14 of the air conditioning units. Access from the inside of the 15 building via ladder to the access door is preferred over a 16 ladder on the outside of the building that would require 17 negotiating a 5-foot high parapet wall. Change Proposal 18 Number -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let me stop you there real 20 quick, just so -- because we've gone out there so much, so 21 the rest of the Court understands, the air-conditioners are 22 up on the top of the west side. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They put them up this morning. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, and they're -- the way -- 25 it's hard to get up there, so this is putting -- kind of 10-27-14 48 1 basically cutting a much safer way to get up to that to 2 service the machines, putting an access door inside and 3 stairs that go up to it. 4 MR. HASTINGS: Correct. Change Proposal Number 18 5 in the amount of $7,893 corrects the type of fluorescent 6 lighting fixtures so they'll sit flush with the ceiling 7 grids. During the confusion created by contract 8 negotiations, substandard fixtures were inadvertently 9 selected, and the contract amount was reduced accordingly. 10 This change proposal corrects the fixtures and aligns the 11 contract amount up accordingly. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. And a comment on that 13 one; during the proposal, we were moving things back and 14 forth and lump-sum dollars, and trying to reduce the cost of 15 that a little bit. We -- on the lighting, we got rid of LED 16 lighting and reduced the scope a little bit. There -- Huser 17 was never given the opportunity to really go through and 18 specifically look at it. They went too low on the lighting. 19 They came out with lighting -- they actually -- you know, the 20 cost that they allowed for it was ones that were below mounts 21 that hang down, and that's not what we want in this building. 22 This is to get flush-mounted, and it's nowhere near what we 23 had before, but it's -- they found a good substitute, but it 24 does cost a little bit more. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Those would be really cheap 10-27-14 49 1 looking. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. This will be good. 3 MR. HASTINGS: Then Change Proposal Number 19 is a 4 credit in the amount of $22,054. It's for the deletion of 5 the exterior building signage from the scope of work. Naming 6 of the building will be done at a future date. The net 7 change to this contract is a credit in the amount of $12,089, 8 all three of these changes. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There is -- on the signage -- 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Will that money be set aside to be 11 used for that purpose in the future? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, it's in the -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's in the C.O. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- C.O. funds. And the 15 electrical hookup and the spot for the signage or the -- the 16 lighting for it is all in place. It's been stubbed out. 17 They're just not putting the sign -- the lights up there 18 until we decide what we're going to do for sure, and we'll 19 come back at that time. I move approval. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 22 approval, Item 1.30 on the agenda. Is there any further 23 discussion? There being none, those in favor, signify by 24 raising your right hand. 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 10-27-14 50 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's nice to get a credit. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, as long as we set it aside 4 and are still using it for the naming, that's fine. 1.31; 5 discuss -- consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for 6 the Court to accept Richard Mosty's request to cancel Las 7 Colinas Subdivision, Volume 5, Page 42, located in Precinct 8 2, and set a public hearing for Monday, November the 24th, 9 2014, at 9 a.m. Mr. Hastings. I see Mr. Mosty's in the 10 crowd. 11 MR. HASTINGS: Okay. Richard Mosty dropped off his 12 request, or his client did, to cancel Las Colinas Subdivision 13 on Wednesday, October 22nd, last week. We have included his 14 formal request in the application that you have before you 15 today to cancel Las Colinas, Volume 5, Page 42. Under 16 Section 6.06 of the Kerr County Subdivision Rules and 17 Regulations, it says that the Commissioners Court must 18 publish notice of a proposal to cancel a subdivision under 19 this section, and the time and place of the required hearing 20 in a newspaper of general circulation in the county for at 21 least 21 days immediately before the date of cancellation 22 order is adopted. We would like to note that it appears 23 there may be an illegal subdivision, part of this Las 24 Colinas, 2.21 acres where it was sold back in 1984, shortly 25 after the subdivision was subdivided. But at this time, 10-27-14 51 1 we're asking the Court to set a public hearing for Monday, 2 November 24th, 2014, at 9 a.m. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, Kelly or Charlie, on the 4 rules for that, is canceling or abandoning part of it? 5 Because if we end up leaving that 2-acre tract, I just want 6 to make sure we get the public hearing styled correctly so 7 that we can do this at that next meeting. 8 MR. HASTINGS: Do you remember offhand? I think -- 9 you know, I think we need to make sure we're doing it, 'cause 10 we're only canceling a portion of it. If we're going to 11 leave that one 2-acre -- two-point whatever it is acre tract, 12 I think that's what we would look -- need to do at this time 13 to accommodate what was sold to another person. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 'Cause canceling all or 15 part is in our rules, I think. Okay. Anyway, whatever the 16 -- the verbiage is, we can get that corrected when we do the 17 public notice. 18 MR. HASTINGS: Right. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, I move that we set a 20 public hearing on November 24th, 2014, at 9 a.m., for the -- 21 for this revision. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, it's been moved and 24 seconded. Mr. Mosty's indicated he would like to address the 25 Court. 10-27-14 52 1 MR. MOSTY: I just -- just to be technically 2 correct, I think it -- that the public hearing should be to 3 cancel part of the subdivision. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's not canceling all of it. 6 And that's 232.008. I'll get with the County Attorney and 7 make sure we're on the same page on all that. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Are you going to replat everything, 9 Richard? Is that what's -- 10 MR. MOSTY: No, I've sold off -- I'm going to 11 probably just sell, metes and bounds, 25 acres up on top, and 12 about 22 down below. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 14 MR. MOSTY: So, I have a contract to sell the top 15 25 acres, so it'll end up being larger tracts. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 17 MR. MOSTY: And they're all -- all facing either 18 Deer Park Lane or Highway 16. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Richard. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 23 Those in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right 24 hand. 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 10-27-14 53 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 2 let's have a short break, about 10 minutes. 3 (Recess taken from 9:59 a.m. to 10:10 a.m.) 4 - - - - - - - - - - 5 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, we're reconvening. It's 6 -- if I can see that clock, it looks like it's 10 minutes 7 after 10 a.m. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's correct. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Is that close enough? 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's correct. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Item 1.10; consider, 12 discuss, and take appropriate action on reappointing Donald 13 Oehler to a two-year term to the Kerr County Emergency 14 Services District Number 1. Commissioner Reeves. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just as the agenda item is 16 written, Mr. Oehler has agreed to serve two more years on ESD 17 Number 1, and this will complete the reappointment for that. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that a motion? 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That is a motion. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second -- third. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Third, fourth. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Is there -- was there a 24 motion? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, motion and a second. 10-27-14 54 1 JUDGE POLLARD: I didn't hear it. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Motion and a second. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion 4 on that? If not, those in favor, signify by raising your 5 right hand. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Did you raise your right hand, Mr. 8 Reeves? 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, sir, I did. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, it's 4-0. All right, we have 11 a couple of timed items. We got to skip over to 1.13, public 12 hearing regarding the Kerrville South Wastewater System, 13 Phase 5. Commissioner Moser, Precinct 2. 14 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10:11 a.m., and a public hearing was held in 15 open court, as follows:) 16 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Judge. This is the 18 phase that's complete now, and just to give the public an 19 opportunity to hear that, we need -- I'm going to ask Regan 20 Lenehan to come up. We have to have a public -- two public 21 hearings, one at 10:10 this morning -- is that correct, 22 Regan? -- and then another one at 5:15 this afternoon. So, 23 what action do we take here, Regan? Just approve -- set the 24 public hearing? 25 MS. LENEHAN: Just call the public hearing. 10-27-14 55 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Hold it here? 2 MS. LENEHAN: Yes. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 4 MS. LENEHAN: Yes. You -- on a previous agenda, I 5 think on the 14th, you approved holding the public -- 6 authorizing the public hearing. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, what I read was that this is 8 a public hearing. This is the public hearing, yes. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Is there anybody that wishes 11 to speak on this issue? Regan, do you want to say anything? 12 MS. LENEHAN: Sure, happy to do so. Well, thank 13 you for having me, Commissioners and Judge. I'm Regan 14 Lenehan from Grantworks, and I am the contract administrator 15 on the project. This is the fifth phase of the Kerrville 16 South sewer improvements project. I think we started back in 17 2001, before my time. And on this grant, it was a $500,000 18 grant. It was -- we connected 22 homes, and were finally 19 able to connect the folks on Ranchero Road, which had been 20 part of previous grant projects, but the budget came in too 21 high, and so some of them had to be removed from previous 22 years' contracts. So, we were able to finish that -- that 23 work with this grant, and -- and then finish the work on 24 Quail Valley up to Ranchero Road. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me say something, too, on 10-27-14 56 1 that, is that this project had some complications, as all 2 things do. But without Regan being the contract 3 administrator and Charlie Hastings being the County 4 Engineer -- we had a little session every morning at 5 8 o'clock, and between the two of them, things got done. 6 So -- 7 MS. LENEHAN: And Commissioner Moser. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But anyway -- 9 MS. LENEHAN: Commissioner Moser was instrumental 10 in making all of that happen. So, yes, it took -- it took a 11 team effort, but we got it done. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And it -- so I don't think 13 we've had any issues with the public on anything. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Just with Commissioner 4, huh? 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is he a member of the public? 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, he is. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, he -- 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm one. That's four. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: One, I'm sorry. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We have a -- we have a 21 love-fest between he and I now. It's ready to go. 22 MS. LENEHAN: That's the next project; that's 23 Phase 6. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Is there any further 25 discussion on this public hearing, or input? Anybody wish to 10-27-14 57 1 speak to it? There being none, we'll close the public 2 hearing at -- looks like an elapsed time of four minutes for 3 that hearing. It's now 10:14 a.m. 4 MS. LENEHAN: Thank you very much. 5 (The public hearing was concluded at 10:14 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 6 reopened.) 7 - - - - - - - - - - 8 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, thank you very much. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Regan. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Now let's go to Item 1.14, also a 11 timed item; discussion regarding Read 2 Win free library 12 cards. Commissioner Moser? 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Judge. The other day 14 at the Library Advisory Board, Jeff Anderson presented a 15 program that he has been working on behind the scenes, and I 16 bring -- I asked Jeff to come in and just make a short 17 presentation on what this is about, just for information 18 purposes. So, it's -- go ahead, Jeff. Thank you, sir. 19 MR. ANDERSON: Commissioner, can you pass those 20 around? 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You have this? 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 24 MR. ANDERSON: Well, thank you for this opportunity 25 and invitation, Commissioner. And I'm Jeff Anderson; I'm a 10-27-14 58 1 director of SERV Kerrville, and SERV Kerrville looks for 2 opportunities where we could perhaps intercede in initiatives 3 that might improve the future productivity of Kerr County. 4 So, our -- my purpose today is to share with you an 5 initiative that we've decided to undertake that we're calling 6 the Read 2 Win library card scholarship initiative. Maybe I 7 should share a little background with you. The -- we -- as 8 we are looking at really what are the future issues that 9 impact Kerr County, you know, in regards to future years 10 ahead, we began to realize over the last few years that 11 there's two key issues impacting particularly our elementary 12 school children that really deserve attention. One is 13 reading literacy, and the other is character development. 14 And, quite frankly, it's -- at least it's our opinion that 15 reading probably trumps character development as a beginning 16 step. 17 So, we began to -- as we usually do, to do some 18 research into what might be -- what might happen if we were 19 able to make improvement in this area, what might be able to 20 be done, and what the current situation is, and that's what I 21 really wanted to just bring to you this morning. We think 22 that reading literacy is really reaching an alarming 23 percentage of our elementary school kids, and in regards to 24 their disadvantage of being below norm, and so we began this 25 research project to really see what we might do about this 10-27-14 59 1 alarming what I would call status-quo that exists -- that's 2 existed now in the county for some time. In the course of 3 doing that, we looked nationally. We looked regionally. We 4 looked across the state. We also looked locally. One of the 5 tidbits that I just would share with you is that a Harvard 6 family project -- or Harvard University family research 7 project indicated that schools alone cannot overtake this 8 literacy issue where it prevails in communities; that it, in 9 fact, takes both homes, parents, and adults in homes. It 10 takes schools, and it takes the community and the community 11 involvement. 12 Why -- why is this situation there? Well, without 13 being able to truly research Kerr County, we looked at some 14 national indicators. One of them that's really startling is 15 that middle income age kids that enter -- that are entering 16 kindergarten have about 1,700 cumulative hours of shared 17 reading experiences with adults. On the other hand, low 18 income kids average about 25 hours. It's a pretty startling 19 differential. I don't know what it is in Kerr County, but we 20 believe that this gap, what we call an advantage gap, is 21 significant enough that it bears attention. So, what we 22 began to also realize is -- is that there's a pretty 23 significant payoff. In fact, reading literacy alone, among 24 the things that go into productivity development in 25 communities, has as much as a 13-to-1 payoff in regards to 10-27-14 60 1 what it can mean in future productivity development. So, 2 that got our attention, because we're all about trying to be 3 a catalyst towards encouraging productive development. 4 With this in mind, we began to look at Kerr County. 5 And we -- I bring some of the -- some of the statistics that 6 we realize. There's about, oh, 55, 57 percent of the kids 7 that actually reside in this county that reside outside the 8 city, so that a proportionate majority of kids now reside 9 outside the city limits of Kerrville. And of those kids that 10 do, we estimate that about 3,500 of them are currently living 11 in what would be low income households. These are the same 12 households that the national governor's study came up with 13 the 13-to-1 payoff that you can impact. So, with that, we 14 began to realize that there is a constituency of perhaps 15 1,000 households in this community that, if reached, could 16 potentially make a significant difference in the future, so 17 we began to look at what could we do about this advantage 18 gap, or disadvantage gap, however you want to talk about it. 19 Interestingly, as you look across the country, the 20 number one resource that communities can put to bear at 21 trying to change this -- this advantage gap situation is the 22 local library. And, of course, it takes involvement, and it 23 takes a continual amount of experiences, but when you can 24 recognize the difference between the hours between middle 25 income and low income, it doesn't take that many additional 10-27-14 61 1 experiences to begin to be really what I would call 2 aggrieved. So, we came to the conclusion as an organization 3 that the increased utilization of the library by our county 4 youth is both a desirable objective, and that it's very 5 likely to produce significant long-term productivity gains 6 for our county. However, we first have a bridge that we need 7 to build. 8 Between January 2013 and September 1, 2014, library 9 usage among those youth that live outside the city in our 10 county dropped by about 95 percent. In fact, the total 11 number of kids using library privileges as of September 1 of 12 this year was 30, so we need to -- we believe that the first 13 initiative that needs to be made is just to increase 14 utilization. So we're, this week, going to kick off -- and 15 that's the reason for being here -- kick off an initiative to 16 offer free library card scholarships to Ingram Elementary 17 School families. Why Ingram? Well, it was one of the -- one 18 of the target areas, and the school district was 19 exceptionally interested in working with us. We planned it 20 months ahead. After assessing what we learn in doing this at 21 Ingram Elementary, and perhaps through middle school and high 22 school, hopefully we can expand it school by school and 23 church by church, and perhaps also nonprofit by nonprofit 24 across the community. 25 As you each, I'm sure, are much more aware than I 10-27-14 62 1 am, this issue of library services to county kids is a 2 complex issue. We've gotten engaged in a little bit of the 3 complexity. I want to say that we're very thankful that both 4 the City, eventually along the way, as we've had continued 5 dialogue and explored some of the things that make it complex 6 together, that we've been able to reach a sense of 7 cooperation and support from the City of Kerrville, the 8 library -- the public library, the Butt-Holdsworth Library 9 team, the Ingram School District, and a donor that appeared 10 here at Commissioners Court not too long ago to help us 11 initiate this campaign. Now, that donor's initiative will 12 scratch the surface as to what we hope to achieve in the 13 county, but it's a very significant -- it gives us an 14 opportunity to get out and test this. 15 So, I'm here to just share this with you. I also 16 wanted to tell you that I look forward, and hope we have the 17 opportunity to come back together and assess what we've 18 learned as we do this, and then keep you apprized of the 19 scholarship initiative. If we do get support from additional 20 donors, if we can -- if the intermediaries in this community 21 can connect us with these families in need, we'll continue to 22 assist, and if we get good, broad support from across the 23 community, we think that there's a very good opportunity that 24 this program can really begin to increase participation of 25 these low income youth. And if we do so, we know that the 10-27-14 63 1 youth are going to be winners, and we believe that the future 2 of the county will be too. Thank you. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Jeff, very, very 4 much for that. I think that this was strictly for that, and 5 the reason I asked Jeff to come in to say what this group is 6 doing for the productivity of the county, and also for 7 enabling children that are not being able to use the library 8 right now, it's gone from about 300 a month down to about 30 9 or so, like that. So, I applaud what they're doing. And 10 hopefully with this announcement, and like the gentleman that 11 came forward the other day offering to provide some funds for 12 that, other people in the community will come forward and -- 13 I think you're a 501(c)(3)? 14 MR. ANDERSON: Yes, we are. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, other people in the 16 community hear about this, and I know there have been a few 17 individuals that say, "I want to help you," you know, "I want 18 to provide some library cards to some of these children that 19 are currently not able." So, hopefully this will help that, 20 so it's for that purpose also. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Hey, Jeff, good to see you 22 again. I thought you'd kind of disappeared around here for a 23 while. 24 MR. ANDERSON: Buster, we've been active behind the 25 scenes. 10-27-14 64 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's a good place to be. 2 MR. ANDERSON: And, frankly, I prefer it that way. 3 But we -- and I hope that our appearance in any way is not in 4 a sense of judging anything here in the county. We simply 5 got involved in this out of a desire to help. And we're 6 hoping that perhaps from beginning today, that we'll help 7 present an opportunity for a dialogue so you can be aware of 8 what we're learning as we go about this. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it's fantastic. I 10 really appreciate your interest and what you're doing. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I do too. I've got a 12 question for you, though. First of all, I just can't believe 13 the City's cut off citizens from the use of the library. But 14 number -- and I mean that. I mean, duh. But number two, do 15 these public schools not have libraries any more? 16 MR. ANDERSON: Yes, they do, but there's a question 17 of the amount of time. And, you know, I can get into a lot 18 of statistics. The most dangerous time in communities with 19 regards to its future productivity is between 3:00 and 6:00 20 every afternoon. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 22 MR. ANDERSON: And we've got to begin to bridge 23 this gap. I can take you to certain elementary schools in 24 your respective districts, and you'd be shocked at the amount 25 of just kids left on their own. 10-27-14 65 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. There's just -- and 2 this is endemic among this focus group that we're seeking to 3 try to reach. So, there are good resources in this 4 community. It's not a lack of resources; it's a lack of 5 utilization. And, you know, even if you -- you know, even if 6 we're fully funded, this issue, to some degree -- to a large 7 degree, would still exist. It's a utilization of resources 8 issue. And we're hoping that -- that we can be a catalyst 9 and help spur existing programs that are already in place to 10 have increased utilization. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: How did you connect with that 12 donor? Was it because he came and appeared before the Court 13 and there was some publicity about that? 14 MR. ANDERSON: It was the publicity. Excuse me, 15 Judge. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Go ahead. Did you -- was that how 17 it happened? 18 MR. ANDERSON: It was the publicity. We -- I just 19 called him and said, "You know, I don't know whether 20 you're -- you're not aware, but we coincidentally have been 21 working on this." We, however, have been researching it. We 22 haven't been actively involved in how to do it, and so we 23 agreed to begin to get actively involved. At that time, I 24 thought it would take a week. And I don't remember how many 25 weeks ago that was, because it took a few more, so that we 10-27-14 66 1 could be in this position to make that announcement. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: I think that's great. He was 3 looking for somebody to administer it sort of for him. 4 MR. ANDERSON: Yeah. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: And you're the answer to his 6 prayers. 7 MR. ANDERSON: Well, we hope we can be an answer, 8 to be a catalyst. We just really want to help. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You hope a lot more come 10 forward with the same kind of offer. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, I've, more so than 12 probably the rest of the members of the Court, spent a lot of 13 time in elementary schools nowadays, and it's -- and what 14 you're saying, I mean, there's a huge need to help the 15 primarily low income families and kids that just don't have 16 any place to go after school. You're 100 percent correct on 17 that. Their parents are working, trying to make ends meet, 18 and they just don't have a way to advance. And this is 19 something -- programs like this are what we really need in 20 the community that will really make a big -- I mean, a 21 tremendous impact on those lives. Hopefully they'll stay in 22 Kerr County, but if they don't, we're helping the youth get a 23 jump start. They really do need it. 24 MR. ANDERSON: Well, we agree. And it's going to 25 take a lot more than just our organization in this effort. 10-27-14 67 1 But it could be the resources -- we have good resources in 2 this community, and it's a matter of just resource -- you 3 know, with increased resource utilization. Thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Jeff. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Jeff. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, sir. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We'll go to item -- 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Judge, I believe the 9 gentleman would like to address some of this. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Yes, sir? 11 MR. SCHWING: For the record, I'm Carl Schwing, a 12 resident of Kerr County. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, sir. 14 MR. SCHWING: I taught for nine years in a state 15 community college, another eight years in a state university. 16 I want to support this program wholeheartedly. This is one 17 of the things I've seen in the past. A student that 18 graduated from high school, they can't make it into college, 19 even at the community college level. And we go to remedial 20 math; we go to remedial English. They can read the words, 21 but there's no comprehension of what they read, and it ends 22 up with failure. I've read a little bit about this program 23 in the past, as I've been supporting the STEM engineering, 24 science, and mathematics programs through work out at Hunt 25 School as a mentor. And actually, these people, some of them 10-27-14 68 1 don't even make it out of high school. But this is your 2 workforce of the future. If you want to improve the future 3 of our people, this program is necessary. It's got my 4 full-hearted support. Thank you for your time. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, sir. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Carl. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Anybody else want to speak to it? 9 All right. We appreciate all the comments. We'll now go to 10 Item 1.11; discussion regarding proposal from the Hill 11 Country M.H.D.D. Centers for a juvenile mental health court. 12 This one is not an action item; it's just one that I wanted 13 to make the Commissioners Court aware of what was going on. 14 Since I've been involved -- been the County Judge and the 15 juvenile court judge, I've noticed that many of -- many of 16 the youngsters coming through that court have some 17 psychiatric or psychological problems that come in, some of 18 them with a diagnosis, some of them with an undiagnosed, but 19 obvious problem. And it was a serious enough problem, I went 20 to a seminar about it, and they were talking about mental 21 health courts. Bexar County's one of the leaders in the 22 state in that particular area. They even have separate 23 mental health juvenile courts down there. I'm not proposing 24 to change the juvenile court here to a mental health court, 25 but I do think there were enough of the -- of the students, 10-27-14 69 1 we'll call them, that come through there that have problems 2 like that, that we needed to improve the connection somehow 3 with M.H.D.D. and get these kids some help; psychiatric, 4 psychological and whatever help. 5 Jason Davis, who is the Chief Juvenile Probation 6 Officer, told me that -- in a discussion, I asked him; I 7 said, "How many of these kids do you think have psychiatric 8 problems coming through here?" And he said, "Oh, I think 9 70 percent." Frankly, I think it might even be a little bit 10 more than that. It's -- so the need is great. And as a 11 result, I talked to Mrs. Werlein out at the State Hospital, 12 M.H.D.D., and encouraged her -- we had a meeting, and we set 13 up a joint meeting with several of her staff and with Jason 14 and I, and she sent a letter that's in the packets here that 15 sets forth a plan that we're going to try to implement before 16 the end of the year. And that's important, because she has 17 announced her retirement sometime after the first of the 18 year, and we'd kind of like to get this thing going, and so 19 we can help these kids. Jason, would you like to say a few 20 words about this? 21 MR. DAVIS: Yes, Your Honor. I'll just -- for the 22 Court's information, Linda and everyone at M.H.D.D., this is 23 a charge that the Judge has put on them, and they have very 24 much stepped up and exceeded the expectations that we could 25 have expected, as far as provision of services and additional 10-27-14 70 1 mental health services towards youth. This type of program, 2 the services that they're going to offer is something that 3 you rarely see in counties under 150,000 to 250,000 people. 4 There are a lot of counties that are in the -- you know, 5 under 100,000, in that range, that do not have this type of 6 service available to them. The good news is it's free of 7 charge to our youth. There's no additional cost to the 8 taxpayer. On the county side, there will be no funding 9 required. What resources are going to be required through 10 the courts, I know that the Probation Department, as well as 11 the prosecutor, can make those resources available without 12 any additional cost, any additional charges or burden on the 13 taxpayer. It is a -- this type of program is done in urban 14 areas. Most of your urban counties will have this. It is 15 something that, in a county of 50,000 people, is unheard of, 16 and so for Linda to step up and do this, we're very 17 appreciative of it. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Jason does an excellent job for us 19 down there, always, and we're very fortunate to have him. I 20 really do appreciate him. And I think Heather's -- I've 21 talked to Heather -- oh, Heather was in on that meeting, too. 22 And I really think it's going to help. It is going to 23 require more time, from the staff and from me, and that's 24 okay. I can tell you, when I first came on board here, there 25 was a certain level of number of kids coming through the 10-27-14 71 1 juvenile court, and Jason assured me that after school was 2 out, during the summer it would drop down in number. It 3 didn't. It doubled, and it seems to be holding that level, 4 and may be getting worse; I don't know. And the juvenile 5 court thing is taking a lot of time, and this is going to 6 take a lot more time, but I'm -- I think those kids are -- 7 I'm trying to help them, and they're worth it, okay? And I 8 just kind of -- I wanted you folks to know what was going on 9 down in juvenile court. And once again, I really appreciate 10 Jason Davis and his staff down there. 11 MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Your Honor. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: He's a good guy. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: And the County Attorney's office. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can I make a statement, 15 Judge? 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: In this letter from Linda, 18 she uses the word "intensity." And I don't know much about 19 juveniles, but I know a little bit about some of what's going 20 on here. I can see how this thing's going to work, and in my 21 opinion, I mean, you can't -- people don't grasp the 22 realities in a one-hour meeting a month, or whatever it is 23 you do with them. And this thing's talking about intensity 24 in a serious way, and you're going to be able to win a 25 couple. But my question is, these personnel, are they going 10-27-14 72 1 to be state employees? 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: M.H.D.D. employees. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Super. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Any other questions or comments? 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Great program. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, thank you for your time. 9 MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, 10 Commissioners. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, we'll go on to Item 12 1.12; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 13 interlocal agreement with the City regarding Kerrville South 14 Wastewater, Phase 5. Commissioner Moser. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Judge. I think 16 this will be the last thing we'll do, other than the public 17 hearing this afternoon, on this phase of the project. And 18 what this is, is an interlocal agreement change that the City 19 has approved, and we agreed in concept to, and that was to 20 deviate from the specifications set forth by the City, their 21 standards specs for the lift station and the different power 22 provided to that. So, I'll read real quickly what this 23 change is. The way it currently reads is, Requires project 24 engineer to use current City of Kerrville standards, 25 specifications for subdivision construction design criteria, 10-27-14 73 1 with the provision that the design flows from the proposed 2 Quail Valley lift station improvements not exceed 175 gallons 3 per minute. That's the way it currently is. The change that 4 will be added to that, But the County may install and use -- 5 the City -- and the City agrees -- alternate design and 6 installation methods for the lift station included as part of 7 Phase 5 of the project, as limited to the temporary 8 installation of phase converters for the three-phase pumps 9 installed as part of the project. Thereafter, County shall 10 extend three-phase power to the lift station and remove the 11 phase converters, either as part of Phase 6 of the project or 12 by December 31st, 2015, whichever occurs first. So, that's 13 the change. So, this is nothing more than a documentation of 14 what we agreed to, so I move that we approve this interlocal 15 agreement change as so -- so stated. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second? 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: This was the one we discussed 18 a few weeks ago, -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- Commissioner Moser, where 21 we approved -- I want to say something like 80,000, maybe, 22 that we had to spend, and if we didn't approve that, then it 23 could cost us like half a million? Is that -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. No, what it was is we 25 were -- in the contract, the $466,000 contract, we knew we 10-27-14 74 1 could put the phase converters in less expensive and hook up 2 more houses, and so we -- we said we'll use the phase 3 converters. The City said, "That deviates from our agreement 4 with you, that you're not using standard equipment the way we 5 said." They inherit all of this stuff for the -- you know, 6 the rest of time, just like in working with Kendall County 7 and Center Point on that system; we're going to have the same 8 kind of interlocal agreements and -- on things, and there 9 will be issues that will come up just like this in that 10 project. So, this is just documenting and approving what 11 we've already approved to do, and it says we will meet the 12 spec by the end of this next calendar year. And then in all 13 probability, like 95 percent, we'll get the funding in 14 Phase 6, and we'll do the three-phase power delivery at that 15 point. And -- but if it -- if it all fails, then we're 16 obligated for, like, about $80,000, okay, which is set aside 17 to do that. And if we -- and as we discussed earlier at the 18 previous Commissioners Court, if we didn't do it, the County 19 was obligated to pay back $500,000. That was the big thing. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That was my question. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But this is to follow through 23 on that? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is just so the 25 paperwork's clean, right. 10-27-14 75 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 3 seconded that we authorize approval -- execution of that 4 interlocal agreement with the City. Is there any further 5 discussion? There being none, those in favor, signify by 6 raising your right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Okay, we jump 9 down to Item 1.15; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 10 action regarding update of the Center Point west -- east -- 11 Center Point/East Kerr County Wastewater Project. 12 Commissioners Moser and Letz. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me just say, this again is 14 going to be -- this is a $28 million construction thing. 15 We've already spent a million and a half, I think, on 16 engineering, and so we've been working with the State on the 17 funding, and I'm going to let -- I asked Commissioner Letz 18 to -- he's got more years of background on this than I do. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just as kind of an update, we 20 were -- I think most of the Court was aware, we were -- I 21 guess the application was approved that we submitted for the 22 Clean Water Act funding. The problem is, there wasn't a 23 whole lot of money set aside at the state level for that 24 project. And what we are -- our plan at the current -- with 25 the Clean Water side of it is, we have an application up 10-27-14 76 1 there pending. We're looking at that. Not a great deal of 2 money, but there is some right there. We are instructing our 3 -- Keller, our contract engineer on this with Tetra Tech, to 4 start the work on preparing a new application for the next 5 round of funding. He'll be doing that, and those will be 6 coming before the Court probably February-March next year, 7 during that time framework. 8 Additionally, we have been spending a lot of time 9 looking back at the EDAP funding portion of it. Only a very 10 small area was originally approved for EDAP funding. We have 11 reopened that whole can of worms with the Water Development 12 Board. Charlie has done a great deal of work on really 13 analyzing the areas. We have -- he has -- I shouldn't say 14 "we"; Charlie has convinced them that they made -- were in 15 error in what -- the areas that they qualified, and they 16 have -- even without going back to the Department of Health, 17 have pretty much said, "We agree." These areas are now EDAP 18 eligible. And then they're going to -- another large area, 19 and they're going to redo how they're going to assess it. 20 They're going to send the Department of Health back down to 21 reassess further areas, so we get more and more of this area 22 included as eligible for EDAP. 23 The reason EDAP is so important is that it can get 24 up to a 100 percent grant. Probably wouldn't get that high; 25 probably more like 70 percent, but that's better than where 10-27-14 77 1 we are with the Clean Water Act funding. So, if we can get 2 the EDAP, it's great. The problem comes in, we never know -- 3 and they never know in Austin as to whether the federal 4 government's going to give EDAP funding or give Clean Water 5 funding, so we're kind of on a parallel basis, getting both 6 applications -- we'll be resubmitting applications for both 7 next year. That's kind of just an update. But it has, 8 unfortunately, probably delayed a little bit the 9 construction -- beginning construction, because we're not 10 going to start under this -- it doesn't appear, anyway, under 11 this funding cycle. There always can be money come 12 available. If somebody else in the queue of money decides 13 not to do it, or something happens or they don't extend 14 something, money can always come available from both funds. 15 So, we're ready to move forward, but we're ready not to move 16 forward. We're -- you know, we're covering all bases at one 17 time. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: You haven't got the deed as yet. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We don't have the cash. We 20 don't have the cash in-hand, or a letter that we have cash 21 in-hand, so we're going to reapply for both. And we're 22 proceeding with the EDAP and the Clean Water for the current 23 funding that we're under right now. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And we have both hands out. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Both hands out, and both 10-27-14 78 1 applications are in. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Has it been approved? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Has EDAP been approved? Not 5 yet. The Clean Water's been approved, and the EDAP current 6 application is there. And they -- it -- they will be 7 approved. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Charlie's pretty new on board, but 9 it's already apparent that he's really worth his money, isn't 10 he? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let's not go too far. 12 (Laughter.) 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, right. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I was going to say, 15 that may be stretching it. 16 MR. HASTINGS: This meeting's not over yet. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's all. I just wanted to 18 give the Court an update. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good. Thank you. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, let's go to Item 1.16; 21 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action regarding 22 abandoning unimproved road at Front Street and River Road in 23 Precinct 2. Commissioner Moser. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'd like to defer that to the 25 next Commissioners Court. 10-27-14 79 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Pass, okay. 1.17; consider, 2 discuss, and take appropriate action to approve contract for 3 the Event Hall sound system at the Hill Country Youth Event 4 Center. Commissioners Letz and Reeves. We got a whole bunch 5 of bids, didn't we? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We had two bids. One was 7 112 -- a little over 112,000, and one was 78,800. We met 8 with the low bidder, who is Southwest Sound and Electronics 9 in San Antonio. Bob and I met with them last week. We went 10 over there to make sure that everyone was on the same page, 11 and made it clear that there will be no change orders; we 12 expect this is it. They inspected all of the conduits and 13 all the runs and all the electrical side of it that we've 14 done up to now. There may be a slight -- this wouldn't be on 15 them; it would be on us -- electrical, changing some plugs 16 around and where the equipment's going, but that'll be very, 17 very minor. The County Attorney has not looked -- I don't 18 know if you've looked at the contract or not, but either way, 19 we need to get it to her to approve the actual agreement. 20 But because of the time sensitivity of this, we wanted to get 21 it on the agenda. I'll make a motion that we approve the 22 submittal from Southwest Sound and Electronics and accept 23 their bid in the amount of $78,800, subject to the County 24 Attorney approving the contract. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 10-27-14 80 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 2 accept the contract, contingent upon -- the contract with 3 Southwest Sound, contingent upon the County Attorney's 4 approval of the contract. Is there any further discussion? 5 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 6 right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 9 1.18; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 10 landscape plan of the Hill Country Youth Event Center. 11 Commissioners Letz and Reeves. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let me hand out quickly -- I 13 met with -- I think I misspoke before; I said that we were 14 going to -- we'd have a plan to look at today. Instead, I 15 have a proposal for a plan to look at. Where we are on this, 16 I met with Jake Walther, who's a landscape architect locally. 17 He graduated from Texas A & M about five years ago. Aside 18 from that, you know, he's a good guy. I met with Jake out 19 on-site, and we talked about kind of the scope of the 20 project. He gave -- he sent us one letter agreement. 21 Obviously, it's going to need to be changed some, because 22 it's made out to me personally. It should be made out to the 23 County; I'm not paying for it. It needs to go through the 24 County Attorney's office. I think this amount -- the amount 25 would be not to exceed $900, and it's an hourly contract. I 10-27-14 81 1 think that could be handled as a change order that Charlie 2 already has authority to handle, so I think we can handle 3 that part. But I clearly -- want to clearly bring it to the 4 Court and kind of go over what we discussed. 5 First of all, Road and Bridge is ready to get out 6 of there, and they have other things they need to be doing. 7 They need to get the parking lot paved and be done. They 8 don't want to have to worry about the landscaping, so we 9 talked to Jake about that. Our Maintenance Department -- I 10 haven't talked to Tim, but I talked to Jake. The Maintenance 11 Department will do the installation of the plants, but Jake 12 would oversee it. So, the scope basically is he'll come up 13 with a plan to incorporate some trees, beds, gravel he wants 14 to use, whatever. That plan will come back to the Court for 15 us to approve. He will do that; then he will actually be 16 on-site locating everything. He'll locate any raised beds, 17 specify the kind of plants, and handle the installation 18 oversight. The labor will be provided by the County, and 19 it's not a whole lot. We're talking about probably four or 20 five trees, and not real, real big ones. One of the things 21 that we are going to incorporate doing -- and Tim gets credit 22 for this. We have a pile of rocks over there that very few 23 of us know what it is. I think Commissioner Baldwin does, 24 and Tim did. They are rocks that came out of the original 25 courthouse when it burned. They've been moved around and 10-27-14 82 1 moved here and piled up here. The idea is, we're going to 2 use those rocks as the outline for the raised beds, and then 3 we can put a little plaque up. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, great idea. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's a permanent home for -- 6 that's the original boulders or cut rocks that were used at 7 the original courthouse in Kerr County, and it will be a good 8 way -- 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can I give credit to 10 somebody else? (Laughter.) 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know, it was hard, but Tim 12 did have the idea, so I have to give him credit for that. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: How large an area are we 14 talking about for the landscaping? It's just in front? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just in front. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not a very big area. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Just in front of the -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, just the front, to dress 20 it up a little bit. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We do need to, you know, leave 23 it up to Jake a little bit. I know he has a relationship 24 with Mosty Nursery in Center Point. They've -- some of the 25 Mosty family has indicated they would be interested in 10-27-14 83 1 helping out, donating or something. There may be some others 2 around that would donate things. I know we have -- the 3 Oehler family wants to donate a tree. I believe the Tinley 4 family would like to donate a tree. We need to get this 5 figured out; what tree, what size people are donating, what 6 Mosty Nursery's willing to do, and Jake and I will kind of -- 7 I'll work with him on that part of it. So, we -- you can't 8 just do a plan and then say yes, we're going to get a tree. 9 We have to know what the tree is, what the size is. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, let me ask you a 11 question. Do I tell you what size of tree we want to plant, 12 or are you going to tell me what size of tree we need to 13 plant? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it would be kind of a 15 combination. It will be both. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: I spoke to the Tinley family this 17 past weekend, and they -- they have confirmed they want to do 18 it. They don't know what kind of a tree to do, and they 19 really need -- 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Some guidance, probably. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: -- some guidance from that 22 landscape architect, and from Mosty Nursery and that kind of 23 thing. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Same here. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. So -- and I think 10-27-14 84 1 that -- I don't know. It may be appropriate for someone on 2 the Court to contact the Williams family, see if they're 3 interested in doing it, 'cause Bill was certainly very 4 involved with the early phases of this, and -- 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'd be happy to do that. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If you'd do that, Tom, that'd 7 be great. See if they'd be willing to do it. Basically, 8 from a cost standpoint, a 45-gallon tree, which I think we're 9 talking about, you're looking at $300. I mean, that will pay 10 for the tree and pay for a little bit to help plant it, so -- 11 and it's not a huge amount. The kind, I think, is because of 12 the space we're working with is pretty tight, so it's going 13 to have to be a little bit limited by that. Lacy oak is a 14 good smaller tree. I've talked to Roy Walston a little bit 15 about it; that would be a good one. Something that would be 16 kind of interesting -- not a lot of people's first choice, 17 but Bruce was so involved with mesquite trees, you know, it'd 18 be kind of a neat thing for Bruce, you know, to have a 19 mesquite tree out there. That's just my thought; it's up to 20 the family to do what they want. There are some challenges 21 on locating things. Charlie had the new fire line put right 22 in the wrong place. (Laughter.) 23 MR. HASTINGS: A few years ago, when I didn't work 24 here. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it's -- he won't let me 10-27-14 85 1 plant a tree. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: That's the City's fault, though, 3 right? 4 MR. HASTINGS: Right. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, you were over there then. 6 But we can't -- it's a real narrow area where we can get 7 trees, because you can't plant them right on the fire line 8 easement, which, you know, we can't get them too close to the 9 building. It's pretty tight on the front side of that 10 building, but there are some spots we can get two or three 11 trees, which will help. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The neat thing about mesquite 13 is, not much water. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Doing something like that, I 16 don't know what the water thing is there; 130,000 gallons in 17 water that we capture, but -- so it's not -- 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Water is -- 19 JUDGE POLLARD: The wood is pretty good-looking 20 stuff. The tree itself ain't so hot, and it's got beans that 21 come down off of it and stuff like that. 22 MR. BOLLIER: That stuff, Charlie can pick up. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyway, that's up to the 24 families, but that's just kind of where we are. Jake will be 25 working on a plan, but it's -- and I'll introduce Charlie to 10-27-14 86 1 the other Aggie out there, and they can talk about -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is there any way that on the 3 actual work and the maintenance thereof, the Master Gardeners 4 organization can -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I talked to Roy about that, and 6 they're just -- they've got more than they can handle 7 already. They're a volunteer organization. They have a 8 display bed over there. They just couldn't take -- he's 9 talked to them about it. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And he's going to have some 12 input on some plants and things. It's going to be very low 13 maintenance. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, okay. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But trying to get some 16 vegetation, some trees, you know, placed out there, and -- 17 but to get Road and Bridge moving, and I'll certainly be glad 18 to work with Maintenance, and Jake will be out there doing 19 the actual placement. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Native stuff? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Native stuff. It'll be all 22 native trees and plants. But, anyway, here's the plan. I 23 don't -- I really don't know that we need to approve it. I'm 24 just more presenting it because I think that it's within 25 Charlie's -- the amount is less than $1,000, and he has 10-27-14 87 1 approval to finalize this deal up to that amount. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, has the County Attorney seen 3 it? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just -- but, you know -- 7 JUDGE POLLARD: My suggestion would be to allow her 8 to do so. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, yeah, she certainly needs 10 to see it. But it's a one-page document that Jake wrote up. 11 We can go from there. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion 13 on that? Anybody else have anything else on it? If not, 14 we'll move on to 1.19; consider, discuss, and take 15 appropriate action on declaring old propane heaters in the 16 Indoor Arena at the Hill Country Youth Event Center as 17 surplus items. Aha. Barbecue pits will probably be -- guys 18 wanting to build a barbecue pit might be interested in buying 19 those. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not the -- no, not these. 21 MR. BOLLIER: Not these. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: These are actually heaters, 23 not propane tanks. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, okay. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But there's these old heaters 10-27-14 88 1 that are in the arena. We had to take all that stuff down. 2 We haven't used them in a while. They replaced them last 3 year; they're down already. We just need to declare them 4 surplus, and Maintenance can dispose of them. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 8 declare those propane heaters surplus and sell them. Any 9 further discussion? Those in favor, signify by raising your 10 right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.21; 13 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action regarding 14 relocation of the flagpole at Hill Country Youth Event 15 Center. Commissioner Reeves. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'm going to let Mr. Bollier 17 and Mr. Hastings fill you in on the relocation on this. It's 18 basically the current location of the flagpole needs to be 19 moved for smoother access into the building and the sidewalks 20 that are being poured. 21 MR. HASTINGS: That's right. 22 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, we're going to move the 23 flagpole, what? Probably -- 24 MR. HASTINGS: As soon as they approve it, I'll 25 make a phone call. 10-27-14 89 1 MR. BOLLIER: How far are we moving it back? 2 MR. HASTINGS: About 12 feet. 3 MR. BOLLIER: We're moving the flagpole 4 approximately 12 feet; 19 feet from the new building, to put 5 it in the center to where it looks like it's supposed to. 6 And I have got a bid up there; y'all have it. I went through 7 Guadalupe Signs. There's a great process in going about 8 doing this. They're going to come in, if you approve it, dig 9 the hole, put the pipe in the ground that needs to go in 10 there, and then they have to come back and they have to suck 11 all the gravel and stuff and sand out from around the other 12 one to pick it up and move it over. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What's the bid price? 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: $1,800. 15 MR. BOLLIER: $1,800. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is this something that was -- 17 why does this even have to come to Commissioners Court? 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's above $1,000. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, I thought it was 2,000. 20 Okay. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's what it is. 22 MR. BOLLIER: That's where we're at. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: All right. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 10-27-14 90 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? If not, 2 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 5 MS. STEBBINS: You missed Item 1.20. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, missed 1.20? 7 JUDGE POLLARD: I didn't do 1.20? 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 1.20; consider, 10 discuss, and take appropriate action on revised estimate for 11 waterproofing of the Indoor Arena wall adjacent to the Event 12 Hall at Hill Country Youth Event Center. Commissioner Letz. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Charlie? 14 MR. HASTINGS: We've got a quote from a company -- 15 same company that was doing the waterproofing at the Hill 16 Country Event Center. Originally, we had Huser put it 17 together for us, but we can save some money if we just 18 contract with them direct. It's for $21,695, for them to 19 waterproof the wall that is adjacent to the Hill Country 20 Youth Event Center. That wall has all been dried in. If we 21 don't do this, we're going to have issues with moisture 22 coming from the indoor arena into -- and causing mold issues 23 and everything else on that wall. The process takes about a 24 week and a half for them to do everything they need to do. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Why are we going to have those 10-27-14 91 1 problems? I don't understand that. 2 MR. HASTINGS: If -- when you close that -- when 3 you close all the doors in the indoor arena and it starts to 4 get warm outside, the humidity skyrockets, and you get 5 condensation on all the walls. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Condensation. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We've had a lot of people look 8 at this, and Huser's one of those. That's not -- it's an 9 arena upgrade, not part of -- I mean, it's part of the 10 project, but it's coming out -- it's really an arena issue. 11 When they got the walls apart, looked at how everything's 12 going to be joined together, there has to be a true water 13 seal barrier between those two buildings, and that's what 14 this is for. So, I move approval. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that -- for 17 approval of the -- as stated in Agenda Item 1.20. Is there 18 any further discussion? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 21,695? 20 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, for $21,695. Any 22 further discussion? If not, those in favor, signify by 23 raising your right hand. 24 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 25 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. I apologize 10-27-14 92 1 for skipping that one. Thought I had it checked. All right. 2 1.23; consider, discuss, and -- 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 22. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Huh? I skipped another one? 5 (Laughter.) 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You just don't want to hear me 7 any more. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: I'm trying to get on down the road 9 here, I guess. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 10 action regarding update of construction at Hill Country Youth 11 Event Center and related issues. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just real quick, the only 13 comment I have is that they're going to be sealcoating 14 A.S.A.P. Sidewalks are being poured -- this week? 15 MR. HASTINGS: We cannot do the sidewalk till the 16 flagpole's been moved. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Flagpole moved, then sidewalks 18 poured, then sealcoat. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And trees over the fire line. 20 MR. HASTINGS: And we'll be -- and trees on top of 21 the fire line. No. But -- and the sealcoat would -- we're 22 going to be able to start on sealcoat. We'll just leave an 23 area for the sidewalk to still be done. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And they have the restrooms 25 done. 10-27-14 93 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Restrooms are tiled. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: The sheetrock on the east 3 side and the west side was being textured last week. Looks 4 real good. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Painted. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And they're in the center 7 part trying to finish up with the framing, and sheetrock will 8 be going up on that, so they're moving along at a pretty good 9 scale. If you have time, run out there, get a hardhat and 10 walk around. It's pretty good. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Probably be a good time to 12 go take another look. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There's a lot that's been done. 15 You can start -- their plan is to finish the -- everyone's 16 very much aware of a very tight schedule, but we're -- 17 everyone is still, "Yes, it will be ready on time." Their 18 plan is to finish the two outside areas where the restrooms 19 are, finish that, get all the lights in, fixtures in, all 20 that ready to go while they're finishing the two big halls. 21 So, yeah, the paint's up, texture's up. Still a lot of 22 construction work going on, but it's looking good. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's it. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Assuming I haven't 10-27-14 94 1 skipped any others, we'll go to 1.23; consider, discuss, and 2 take appropriate action to approve the 2015 resolution for 3 the Indigent Defense Grant program, and authorize County 4 Judge to sign resolution. Jeannie Hargis. 5 MS. HARGIS: It got on twice already. You've 6 already -- 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Pardon? 8 MS. HARGIS: It got on twice. It got on the 9 regular agenda and on the addendum. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Skip it? 11 MS. HARGIS: Yes. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: 1.24; consider, discuss, and take 13 appropriate action to enter into a bank consulting agreement 14 with Patterson and Associates for Kerr County's 2015 bank 15 depository RFP, and allow County Judge to sign same. Tracy 16 Soldan. 17 MS. SOLDAN: Good morning. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Good morning. 19 MS. SOLDAN: Our bank depository contract is set to 20 expire April 30th, 2015. The last time we went out to bid, 21 we had a four-year contract, and then last year I applied for 22 a two-year extension. We're coming up on the end of that 23 extension, and we have to go out to bid again for our banking 24 agreement. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: And our current one is with who? 10-27-14 95 1 MS. SOLDAN: Security State Bank. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 3 MS. SOLDAN: And since I was not in office at the 4 time that we went through that before, Patterson and 5 Associates helped at that time with the RFP and with looking 6 at all the bids that came in. I'm asking that we can use 7 them again so that I can get that experience on how to do 8 that. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The item -- I didn't see a 10 maximum. I see $200 per hour, plus travel. Is there a -- 11 MS. SOLDAN: We can set a maximum. When I spoke to 12 Mrs. Patterson, she said that generally it's 15 to 18 hours 13 of her time, depending on how many bids. She said that's 14 kind of the maximum amount of time. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So that's $3,000 to $4,000? 16 MS. SOLDAN: $3,000 to $3,600. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Or we could just renew the 18 contract with the present provider. 19 MS. SOLDAN: I believe we have to go out to bid. 20 MS. HARGIS: Yeah. State law requires that we go 21 out to bid every two years. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 23 MS. HARGIS: With a two-year extension. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This will come out of 25 professional services, I take it? I move approval, with a 10-27-14 96 1 maximum of $3,600. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 4 seconded for approval of that line item, 1.24, with a maximum 5 of $3,600. Any further discussion? If not, then those in 6 favor of it, signify by raising your right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 9 MS. SOLDAN: Thank you. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Uh-huh, thank you. Let's go to 11 1.25; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the 12 approval of lease agreement with Wells Fargo Bank for 13 budgeted capital purchases in the Road and Bridge Department. 14 Commissioner Letz. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is -- actually, I'll refer 16 to Ms. Hargis. I put it on the agenda hoping we could get 17 this documentation in today so we can release Road and Bridge 18 to go get this equipment. 19 MS. HARGIS: Good morning. As you recall, in a 20 prior meeting we approved the lease agreement with Wells 21 Fargo; they had the lowest bid. And we were waiting on the 22 agreement itself, and that's what I have in front of you. 23 I've had the County Attorney review this document. We didn't 24 get it until noon -- actually, a little later than noon on 25 Friday, so we kind of jumped through some hoops. But 10-27-14 97 1 basically, it's a good agreement. It does give -- we will be 2 within budget, because we have three months before we make a 3 payment. Actually, it may even be four months before we make 4 one, so this year's budget will be actually under what we 5 have budgeted in Road and Bridge. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you agree, Heather? 7 MS. STEBBINS: Yes. Yes. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move approval. 9 MS. HARGIS: There are a lot of places to sign. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And authorize the County Judge 12 to sign the contract -- or lease agreement for Road and 13 Bridge purchases. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the 15 County Judge be authorized to execute the agreement with 16 Wells Fargo Bank, as indicated in Item 1.25 of the agenda. 17 Is there any further discussion? There being none, those in 18 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 19 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Did you raise your right hand? 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I did. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's unanimous, 4-0. I was looking 23 the other way. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, sorry. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: No problem. I'm sorry. Item 1.26; 10-27-14 98 1 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to approve 2 contract with Castle Lake Volunteer Fire Department, allow 3 the County Judge to sign same. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any further discussion? 7 There goes the train, whew. There being no further 8 discussion, those in favor, signify by raising your right 9 hand. 10 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0. You can always tell when 12 everybody's starting to get hungry or something. All right, 13 1.27; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 14 request from HPN Books to write a letter of support for a 15 book they intend to publish titled "Historic Kerrville/Kerr 16 County." There's a -- in your agenda packets, there's a 17 letter and a sample -- what they're going to do is come over, 18 write a little history of it, and they're going to do it free 19 and give us -- give us 50 copies that we can either sell or 20 give away or whatever. Doesn't cost us anything. So, I -- I 21 recommend that we do it. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are you recommending this 23 letter? 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, I am. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: May I suggest a third line, 10-27-14 99 1 "Having Mike Cox write the book gives us confidence that it 2 would be a product that will be worthy of our county." 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Uh-huh. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Not "city." Rather than. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, yeah, "county" is good. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. Or "community." It 7 doesn't -- but not just "city." 8 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 'Cause you're dealing with 10 the county. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree. All right. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You make that motion? 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Sure I did. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, I didn't -- second. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: You second? 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 18 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 19 right hand. 20 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 21 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.28, I'm 22 going to pass that one. I withdraw it, actually. All right. 23 Do we want to -- is there anything for closed session today? 24 No? All right, there's nothing for closed or executive 25 session, so we'll go to the action agenda, and Item 3.1, 10-27-14 100 1 action as may be required on matters discussed in executive 2 session. None. All right, 4.1, pay the bills. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move we pay the bills. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we pay 6 the bills. Any discussion? There being none, those in 7 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 8 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 9 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. Are there 10 any -- 4.2, budget amendments. 11 MS. HARGIS: No. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: None? 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Be right back. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: I move we approve that. All right, 15 4.3, late bills. 16 MS. HARGIS: I don't think we have any late bills. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: No late bills. Approve that, too. 18 4.4, approve and accept monthly reports. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: We got them together? 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. Monthly reports: Kerr 22 County Clerk, Statement of Financial Income and Expense for 23 September 2014; Kerr County Clerk, Reconciliation Summary for 24 period ending September 2014; Gene Huffaker, Constable, 25 Precinct 4, monthly report for September 2014; Robbin Burlew, 10-27-14 101 1 District Clerk, General Fund report for September of 2014. I 2 move to approve the reports. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? If not, 5 those in favor of that motion, signify by raising your right 6 hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. 5.1, reports 9 from Commissioners and liaison committee assignments. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: None, thank you. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: None, thank you. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: I have none. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: None. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No, sir. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: No? 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, what is -- what are 17 these Fund 32 deals? Was that something separate that we're 18 supposed to deal with? 19 MS. HARGIS: She just set these bills aside so 20 you'd see them separately. These were items that we placed 21 on the agenda for you to approve in case the funding did 22 occur, and we did receive the funds -- part of the funds on 23 Friday, and the rest of them are due today. These are -- and 24 we have a three-day window once we receive the funds. These 25 must be paid, so we put them in for your approval. 10-27-14 102 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did we approve them when 2 we -- 3 MS. HARGIS: Yes, you did. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- approved the bills? 5 Okay, thank you. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 5.2, reports from elected 7 officials and department heads. Anybody have anything for -- 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Come on. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Nothing? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How's the baby? 11 MS. STEBBINS: Growing. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Growing. "Hatching," he 13 says. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hatching. 15 MS. STEBBINS: Not yet. Not ready yet. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: 5.3, reports from boards, 17 commissions, and committees? City/County joint projects or 18 operational reports? We've had a bunch of those already. 19 Any other reports? Anything? Nobody have any? 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Did I understand there's 21 another public hearing at 5:15? 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Is that for this Court? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, it's just -- 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Okay, 'cause I didn't see it 10-27-14 103 1 on the agenda. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You're welcome to come, 3 though. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Depends on how many are 5 there. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: I think we're through. Anybody 8 want to move for adjournment? 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for adjournment. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 13 adjourn. It's about 13 minutes after 11 a.m. on this date. 14 Those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 15 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 16 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0, unanimous. We are adjourned. 17 (Commissioners Court adjourned at 11:13 a.m.) 18 - - - - - - - - - - 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 10-27-14 104 1 STATE OF TEXAS | 2 COUNTY OF KERR | 3 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 4 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 5 official reporter for the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 6 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 7 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 31st day of October, 8 2014. 9 10 JANNETT PIEPER, Kerr County Clerk 11 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 12 Certified Shorthand Reporter 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 10-27-14