1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Regular Session 10 Monday, July 27, 2015 11 9:00 a.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 25 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 2 1 I N D E X July 27, 2015 2 PAGE 3 --- Commissioners' Comments 6 4 1.16 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve and accept a donation of $700 from Cody 5 Goss, owner of Goss Pest Control, to Kerr County Sheriffs Office Equipment Fund 9 6 1.17 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 7 approve and accept a donation of $1,000 from Sylvan S. Lang, Jr., to Kerr County Sheriffs 8 Office Equipment Fund 11 9 1.18 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action in regards to County Emergency Management 10 Coordinator position 12 11 1.19 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to authorize expenditure of funds received from 12 sale of surplus co-ax cable that came off radio towers 17 13 1.21 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action in 14 regards to Mountain Home tower progress 19 15 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve the optional $10 County Road & Bridge fee 16 for 2016 vehicle registrations per request from Texas Department of Motor Vehicles 25 17 1.2 Public Hearing regarding revision of plat for 18 Lots 7 and 8 of Weis Acres, Precinct 4 27 19 1.3 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for Court's final approval regarding revision of plat 20 for Lots 7 and 8 of Weis Acres, Precinct 4 27 21 1.4 Public Hearing regarding revision of plat for Lots 15B and 17B of Solar Village Subdivision, 22 Precinct 1 28 23 1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for final approval regarding revision of plat for 24 Lots 15B and 17B of Solar Village Subdivision, Precinct 1 29 25 3 1 I N D E X (Continued) July 27, 2015 2 PAGE 3 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action for final approval of Crazy Horse R.V., Precinct 4 31 4 1.7 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 5 accept the preliminary revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch; set 6 a public hearing, Precinct 3 32 7 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action concerning a request to accept payment and 8 authorize Road & Bridge to reconstruct Veterans Administration Cemetery driveway off Spur 100 9 located in State right-of-way, Precinct 2 35 10 1.9 Presentation of Texas Historical Commission’s Distinguished Service Award to the Kerr County 11 Historical Commission 42 12 1.10 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve the renewal MOU contract with Indigent 13 Healthcare Solutions for software program for Kerr County Indigent Health program; authorize 14 County Judge to sign 43 15 1.11 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to accept donation from John and Rosa Lavender 16 and Judge Tom Pollard of eighty (80) “History of the Kerr County Courthouse and Honoring the 17 County Judges of Kerr County – Past and Present – 1856 to 2015” booklets 45 18 1.12 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 19 approve County Treasurer’s office Pitney Bowes postage machine lease renewal; have County Judge 20 sign same 50 21 1.13 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding updating Kerr County Parks Rules 22 and Regulations 51 23 1.14 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding adding Guardian Critical Illness plan 24 to our Guardian Accident and Cancer Policy currently offered to Kerr County employees as 25 voluntary product 59 4 1 I N D E X (Continued) July 27, 2015 2 PAGE 3 1.15 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding 2016 Kerr Central Appraisal District 4 budget 63 5 1.20 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on request to use courthouse grounds on November 11, 6 2015, for Veteran’s Day Parade and Festival 65 7 1.22 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on personnel in County Attorney’s office (Executive 8 Session) 66 9 4.1 Pay Bills 66 4.2 Budget Amendments 67 10 4.3 Late Bills 67 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 68 11 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee 12 Assignments 71 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads -- 13 3.1 Action as may be required on matters discussed 14 in Executive Session -- 15 --- Adjourned 82 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 5 1 On Monday, July 27, 2015, at 9:00 a.m., a regular 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's Monday, July the 8 27th, 2015. It's 9 a.m. The Kerr County Commissioners Court 9 is in session. Mr. Baldwin will lead the prayer this 10 morning. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: If you'll rise and join me 12 in a word of prayer and then the pledge of allegiance. 13 (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Has anybody signed up for the 16 public part of it, to speak? Is there anybody that wishes to 17 come forward and speak in this public part of this 18 Commissioners Court session that's not on the agenda? 19 (No response.) 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. There being none, we 21 have a long agenda this morning, more than 20 items. And the 22 Sheriff has complicated things; he says he needs to attend 23 Sergeant James England's funeral. He was a -- a retired 24 patrol sergeant that was assigned here for many, many years 25 and was really a good man. His funeral is at 11 o'clock, and 7-27-15 6 1 the Sheriff says he has to go. Well, he's got four or five 2 items on the agenda, so to accommodate him to go to that 3 funeral, we're going to take them out of order and take his 4 first. I've gotten permission from the Commissioners Court 5 in order to do that. All right. We'll go to his first item, 6 which is -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do you want to see if we have 8 anything to say? 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, okay. I was just trying to 10 rush through. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I know. I'm trying to slow 12 you down. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: I'm sorry. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I don't have anything 15 to say. Neither does he. (Laughter.) 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I have something real quick. 17 I was down at -- and this is really positive on the -- on the 18 U.G.R.A. river cleanup. I was down at the Center Point Lions 19 Park area along the river under the bridge this weekend, this 20 Saturday, where I've been the last three years. Last year I 21 picked up a truckload, literally, of old television sets and 22 everything else under the bridge, three and a half bags of 23 trash. This year I picked up a half a bag. People are 24 really taking care of what's going, and so hats off to 25 U.G.R.A. for doing that, and it meant a lot. People see what 7-27-15 7 1 this county has done in that park, and I picked up nothing in 2 the park; it was spotless. So, I think that that's 3 noteworthy, and we should -- 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And the trash cleanup, we had 6 an issue on the burned out home that had been there for some 7 time, but I need to commend Ray and his guys. They took off 8 30 and a half tons of debris from cleaning up the piece of 9 property which they got the court order and all to do that. 10 So, cleanup, cleanup, cleanup. That's it. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Restoring a little 12 pride to the community to do that. That's great. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Just one announcement. I heard 15 last night local attorney Rit Jons died day before yesterday. 16 Don't know anything about it, when his funeral is or 17 anything. Do you have anything to say, Commissioner Letz? 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just that, that Rit was a 19 former County Attorney, outstanding attorney for many, many 20 years, and close friend of mine, and his family remains -- is 21 still close friends. So, our prayers are with Becky and all 22 of his kids and grandchildren. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Also, Commissioner Letz had some 24 sort of an emergency yesterday or the day before. He lost 25 about 80 percent of the sight in one of his eyes all of a 7-27-15 8 1 sudden. I guess all his sins finally caught up with him. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Something happened. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Our prayers are with him, and hope 4 that he finds some way to restore that -- that eyesight. 5 Anything else, Mr. Letz? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That doesn't look likely, but I 7 will be leaving about 11 o'clock today. I have quite a few 8 appointments in Austin today related to that, or today and 9 tomorrow and Wednesday to try to figure out exactly what 10 happened. But what it is, what I had, I had a central 11 retinal arterial occlusion, which meant a major artery in the 12 back of my eye just unexpectedly ruptured. This happens at a 13 very rare frequency. Most of the time, they don't know what 14 causes it, and the damage is permanent. And -- but they -- 15 there are things that can cause it, and that's why they want 16 to rule out what -- you know, probably just a random thing 17 that I was unlucky, but they want to make sure that it's not 18 something that caused it, so in which case they're doing 19 tests. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Mr. Reeves? 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just as of last Monday, 22 Precinct 4, and I think Precinct 2 as well, put the burn ban 23 back into effect. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: They did. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Different parts of the county 7-27-15 9 1 are experiencing different parts of dryness and everything. 2 I just urge everybody to be careful in what they're doing, 3 and be diligent. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I appreciate you bringing 5 that up. Precinct 1 will have -- put on the burn ban today, 6 and I forgot to do that. Jody, thank you for doing that. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Go ahead and put it on for 8 three. 9 MS. GRINSTEAD: Okay. 10 MR. BOLLIER: All of them. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Now, with the Court's 12 permission, I'd like to go to Item -- 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 16. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, 16 on the agenda. Sheriff? 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, as y'all remember, there 16 was an Attorney General's opinion a while back that said that 17 any donations somebody wanted to donate to, like, the 18 Sheriff's Office and that actually had to be accepted by the 19 Court, and then could be used at the Court's discretion. 20 I've got two this morning. One was Cody Goss, who's Goss 21 Pest Control. He's donated each year for a number of years 22 to our department. It helps our D.A.R.E. program and it 23 helps also our C.E.R.T. program, the Citizens Emergency 24 Response Team, and the citizens academy schools that we do 25 that we don't budget any money for; all that's done by 7-27-15 10 1 donation. And Cody would again like to present the Sheriff's 2 Office with a $700 check to be able to do that. He's not 3 here this morning because things are a little bit out of 4 order, but he did want to donate that. I'd like this Court 5 to accept it for those purposes. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rusty? 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Go ahead. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is the -- you said -- on the 11 agenda, it says "equipment fund." Is that the fund it comes 12 out of? 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: It all goes into that, that we 14 pay. It's what donations go into. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 16 seconded that we accept the $700 donation as indicated by the 17 Sheriff. Is there any further discussion? There being none, 18 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 19 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 20 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Next we go to 21 17. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: 17 is a -- I guess you need to 23 read it. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Need to read it? 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, I guess. 7-27-15 11 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. As soon as I can find 2 it. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Here you go. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Consider, discuss, and take 5 appropriate action to approve and accept a donation of $1,000 6 from Dr. Sylvan S. Lang, Jr., to Kerr County Sheriff's Office 7 Equipment Fund. 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Again, this is a man that's an 9 attorney from out of town. And we responded to an alarm call 10 quite a while back at a residence while he was out of the 11 country, and he was -- came into the office when I was gone 12 last week at the Sheriff's convention; he came in and just 13 was very appreciative of how the department handled all that 14 when they were out of the country, and wanted to donate 15 $1,000 to our equipment fund, and it's going to be used for 16 the same purposes as Cody's. It just helps funds all that. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 20 accept the $1,000 donation from Dr. Lang. Is there any 21 further discussion? 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I just want to say I'm very 23 appreciative that citizens are willing to help us with such 24 donations and help our law enforcement, so I think it's a 25 great thing. 7-27-15 12 1 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We greatly appreciate it. 2 Because the budget covers so much, but it doesn't cover all 3 of those things, and we do appreciate that. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: By the way, both these donations 5 are restricted to go to the Sheriff's Office equipment fund; 6 is that correct? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 9 There being none, those in favor of the motion, signify by 10 raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Let's go to 13 18; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action in regards 14 to the County Emergency Management Coordinator position. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I don't know if there's any 16 action the Court actually needs to take on this right now, 17 but if you'll recall, quite a while back we were in here 18 about creating the emergency management position for the 19 county, and y'all gave me some direction, and we've sat and 20 visited about it. It turns out that it is possible, and some 21 counties do have where the county has an emergency management 22 coordinator, the city has an emergency management 23 coordinator, and they operate under the same plan, so it's 24 still a joint plan between the city and county, but they each 25 have their own coordinator that helps take care of their 7-27-15 13 1 respective parts of it. So -- 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Comal County does that, don't they? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Comal County does it. Kendall 4 County has a version of it. Several of them do, evidently. 5 Tony Lenard, the Emergency Management Coordinator at the 6 city, checked with Austin. There's no problem in doing that, 7 because several of them do. And we think it would be wise, 8 and it takes care of a lot of different issues that we were 9 having. So, what we've done is looking at job descriptions 10 from all over the state; I got quite a few, and got another 11 one from Huntsville here just the other day. And 12 everything -- we've kind of combined all those that will fill 13 the needs, and I laid several of those up there. I think 14 there's one there for you, Jonathan, that you can see. And I 15 put a step and grade page in it of 23. That is a little bit 16 below what some of them -- I know Huntsville, Walker County, 17 theirs ranges anywhere from 56,000 to 80,000, depending on 18 what their coordinator is. This would be a step and grade 19 23, which that grade is about what one of our corporals would 20 be. Remember, when we first talked about it, we talked about 21 doing the county fire marshal and emergency management 22 coordinator. There's a lot involved in the fire marshal part 23 of it, and I think that needs to be looked at separate. But 24 when we were looking at it, we put it as a step -- or Grade 25 25 at that time. Without that being in it, I think we need 7-27-15 14 1 to knock it back down to a Grade 23. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fire marshal? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Without the fire marshal being 4 in it, since we need to look at that, just doing that in 5 later years. You know, if the County wants to do that, they 6 can add to it and we'll adjust. But to get it started, 7 'cause this is important; we need to get it going. Which the 8 basic plan, as Commissioner Moser has said in the past, has 9 to be redone and approved in Austin by December, so we need 10 to start moving on this, and I just needed some direction. 11 You have a copy of the job description, which is what we 12 proposed and what all it encompasses. And then it's just do 13 we include it as part of this year's budget in there, and go 14 from there. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me -- let me comment on 16 that. What the Sheriff has done is fantastic. He's done a 17 lot of work. He and the Judge and I have talked about this 18 over months. I think that this is a step in a multi-step 19 process to have a greatly improved emergency management plan 20 for this county, and it's needed. It's required to be 21 updated by the end of the year, as the Sheriff said, and the 22 Judge and the two mayors will agree to that. I think by 23 having this position -- and we'll have to decide as part of 24 the budget process whether or not we create this position, 25 and -- but this is the job description for it, so step one. 7-27-15 15 1 Next step is to decide if we want to create the position if 2 we have it in the budget, and then the next step is for -- if 3 we create this position and hire someone, then that emergency 4 management coordinator work with the city emergency 5 coordinator to then improve the plan that we have. It's 6 deficient in several areas. And with these two people, I 7 think it can be something that can help protect the citizens 8 of this county in an emergency. And as -- as Commissioner 9 Reeves said a while ago, the burn -- all the burn bans are on 10 now. We're just -- you know, we're going to have another 11 major emergency someday; fire, flood or something, so we need 12 to be well prepared. So, thanks, Sheriff, for doing that. 13 And I think what we ought to do is just take -- and as what 14 the Sheriff said, take a look at this job description and 15 take the next step as part of the budget process. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Very good. I agree. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know that we need any 18 action today. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, we don't. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But on Friday at the workshop, 21 I think it's time that we start looking at it. I presume we 22 have a -- I know it's a workshop, but I've not looked at the 23 agenda. Is there -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes, it's a -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can take action on Friday as 7-27-15 16 1 well? 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: On Friday. Well, I mean, we 3 can put that in the budget and then we can come back. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: We can't take action on it. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, we've got a 7 Commissioners Court meeting scheduled for Monday as well -- I 8 mean for Friday as well, so we still have time to add this to 9 the agenda for Friday. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Ought to be able to put on 11 there to add any budget amendments, period. So, we can make 12 it so anything we decide at the workshop, that we can then do 13 at the meeting. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Make it permanent. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't think we need to take 17 action today. I think we just need to say this is step one. 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The main thing for y'all, you 19 each have a copy of the job description now. If y'all will 20 just look at it and give me some feedback on it as to what 21 you think. But I think it does solve a lot of the issues and 22 will be a great benefit to the volunteer fire departments and 23 all our county emergency responders, and it will help Tony 24 get a plan done if we can get it off and going pretty quick. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 7-27-15 17 1 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Sheriff. 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Thank you. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, that concludes that 5 subject. Let's go to 1.19; consider, discuss, and take 6 appropriate action to authorize expenditure of funds received 7 from sale of surplus co-ax cable that came off radio towers. 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And this one is just the first 9 part of some of that co-ax that we were able to -- to take 10 and get rid of that -- that copper. It came to $320. The -- 11 the necessity to use it is several of those buildings that we 12 have our equipment in at some of those tower sites -- Tim can 13 attest -- need some repairs. We need to replace some hardie 14 plank on some and fix the roof on some, and we would just 15 like to be able to use that $320 for that purpose. There 16 will be more coming in the future. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a motion that we 18 authorize the expenditure of funds for repairs of the radio 19 towers. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I add to the motion that 22 additional funds that you receive from the sale of coaxial 23 cable should be used for the same purposes. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That will be good. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you agree to that? 7-27-15 18 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yep, second that as well. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Does this include Black 4 Bull? 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Or -- 7 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No, that's a whole -- that 8 will come up on the next agenda item. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's what I thought. 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is just repairing some of 11 the buildings that we've had at some of the other tower sites 12 where they've leaked and had some issues over the years, just 13 replacing some of the lashing and some of the of the hardie 14 plank on the outside of the storage building. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: This is important, because it's 16 affecting your radio transmissions for the Sheriff's Office; 17 is that correct? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No, this protects all the 19 equipment that's going in. The next agenda item is -- the 20 next one we do is by far the most important. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But the equipment -- "yes" is 23 the answer to your question. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Extremely important. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 7-27-15 19 1 If not, those in favor of the motion, signify by raising your 2 right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Let's go to 5 Item 1.22. 6 MR. BOLLIER: 21. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: 21, I'm sorry. Consider, discuss, 8 and take appropriate action in regards to the Mountain Home 9 tower progress. 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I had this set as possibly an 11 executive session, but I think the general deal is we can 12 advise you what's going on. As y'all well know, the Mountain 13 Home tower site, West Central Wireless, failed the 14 remediation, or failed the ability at that time to hold the 15 extra equipment that was going to have to be installed on 16 that tower for the new radio system, okay? It's bigger, 17 heavier equipment. We're their only customer on there. It's 18 West Central's tower, and they have some of their equipment, 19 but we're actually their only customer on it. That is a very 20 necessary tower in our radio system, because it's the main 21 one out west; that will cover all that end of the county. 22 The remediation on it came back at a cost of $50,000. Now, 23 the County's portion of that, which is what West Central 24 wants to do, is cut that remediation in half; we pay 25,000 25 and they pay 25,000, since we are their only customer and 7-27-15 20 1 we're the ones hanging the heavy equipment on it. 2 That can be worked two different ways. The rental 3 lease contract that we will see, that her office will be 4 getting, but until we get this part figured out, there wasn't 5 any sense in sending it. We're under a current lease under 6 the old one. The new lease will be $800 a month for use on 7 that tower. And if you add this 25,000 to it, then you're 8 looking at about $1,200 a month for the five-year term of 9 that lease contract to lease that tower. That's one option. 10 But all those towers will have about a -- probably a 11 2 percent roll-up each year on the cost, so then you're also 12 paying that on that 25,000 if you add it to part of the 13 monthly lease. Or we can pay that 25,000 up front, and still 14 have about $800-a-month lease. But it's just what direction 15 does this Court want to go in drawing up that contract? 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Will they agree to the 1,200 a 17 month? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: They will agree to the 1,200 a 19 month. That's the two options they've sent us. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Is that 1,200 additional or 21 1,200 total? 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: 1,200 total. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Was this the structural 24 enhancement -- 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yeah, they have -- 7-27-15 21 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- that's required because of 2 heavier equipment? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Heavier equipment. They had 4 to go in and redo some guide wires and some things like that 5 for this tower. These are great big microwave dishes, and of 6 course, they'll catch a lot more wind. They had two 7 different studies done on it. The first one was 100,000; 8 second one was 50,000. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rusty, how much of the capital 10 fund have you already used? 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is not in the agreed 12 amount with Motorola for the system at all. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, to use the capital funds -- 14 the only option would be to transfer it out of one of our 15 other unused items? 16 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Other capital that y'all have, 17 if you want to pay the 25,000 up front. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I would be more in favor of 19 using those funds, or even declaring an emergency rather than 20 increasing our budget. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I would too. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Either one of those two, to me, 23 are options we can do. And I say the emergency just because 24 we're at a point that -- I've yet to figure out how we access 25 our reserve funds that are in excess over 25 percent, because 7-27-15 22 1 if you have a balanced budget, you keep on building your 2 reserves and you never can get to it, so it seems like an odd 3 thing. But on this one, either way. But, you know, there 4 are funds in the capital account where this -- where we pay 5 for all the rest of this project, and I'm fine with using 6 that too. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Should we look at this as part 8 of the budget process? 9 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, this is current right 10 now. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I understand. 12 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: You know, I've got the 800 13 built in for the tower lease rental for next year's budget. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: 'Cause that's a whole deal, 16 but the 25,000 would be on top of that, so I'd have to change 17 all that for next year's budget. Or, in my opinion, do what 18 Jonathan says and -- and pay that 25,000 up front. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. And I think that's -- 20 that's a good option. But I'm just saying if we look at the 21 1,200 per month, that'll be part of the budget process, and 22 then we can address that option relatively -- as opposed to 23 taking it out of whatever funding source. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Except that we would have to 25 do that lease sooner than October 1, because -- 7-27-15 23 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: My preference would be -- I 2 make a motion that we use the funds out of the capital funds, 3 and take it from the line item that was designated for the 4 Animal Control building. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Maybe -- I would amend that to 6 say look at taking it out of there or out of emergency if we 7 can, based on the other restrictions that you delineate. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't want that. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They need to be specific. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, I'd rather do it just out 11 of -- I mean, I'd rather move on and get this done. We need 12 to get this complete. Take it out of the capital funds. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And we know the capital 14 funds are there, and we know that -- that the Animal Shelter 15 or whatever you call that thing this week is -- has that kind 16 of money it? 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It has 200,000 -- 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's what you're 19 specifically saying, go in there to get it? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 23 seconded that we pay $25,000 up front by taking it out of the 24 capital funds set aside for the -- whatever we're calling it 25 this week, as Commissioner -- 7-27-15 24 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Animal Control facility. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Animal Control facility. Is there 3 any further discussion? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think from a -- for the 5 Auditor, I think we need to transfer it from that line 6 item -- and I'm sure you'll do this -- into the Sheriff's 7 line item so we can track it down the road. 8 MS. DOSS: Okay. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? There 11 being none, those in favor, signify by raising your right 12 hand. 13 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Does that 15 complete all of yours, Sheriff? 16 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That completes it. I do thank 17 y'all for taking it out of order. As y'all know, the Judge 18 said, Sergeant England -- Sergeant England started as a 19 D.P.S. sergeant here in 1958, the year I was born. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Were you born then? 21 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That same year. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'll be darned. 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: He was my dad's D.P.S. 24 sergeant. He retired here in 1984, okay, so he's known our 25 family forever. 7-27-15 25 1 JUDGE POLLARD: He's a great guy. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Great guy. 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I sure appreciate it. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, Rusty. 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yeah. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, let's go back to our regular 7 order now. Item 1.1; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 8 action to approve the optional $10 County Road and Bridge fee 9 for 2016 vehicle registration per request from the Texas 10 Department of Motor Vehicles. Diane Bolin. 11 MS. BOLIN: This is a yearly thing that we have to 12 do to send them that we're not going to change that. We're 13 collecting the $10 Road and Bridge fee on the registrations 14 for every vehicle registered in Kerr County. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: We have been collecting it? 16 MS. BOLIN: We have been collecting it for years. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: And if we want to continue to do 18 so, we have to make an election? 19 MS. BOLIN: I think Road and Bridge would kill me 20 if we quit. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And that -- that money goes 22 into what we call special projects? 23 MS. BOLIN: I believe so. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: How long have we been doing 25 this, Diane? 7-27-15 26 1 MR. HASTINGS: This goes into the Road and Bridge 2 funds for -- 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Special projects. 4 MR. HASTINGS: -- roads, our chip seal program. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: For a long time. You don't -- 7 MS. BOLIN: Very long time, yes. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, thank you. That's all I 9 needed. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Ms. Auditor, do you have an 11 issue with that at all? 12 MS. DOSS: No. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. I move for approval, 14 Judge. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is something that we've 18 been doing forever, and it goes into -- it's earmarked for 19 what we used to call special projects, but I guess you can 20 buy rock with it now. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. It's been moved by 22 Commissioner Baldwin, seconded by Commissioner Moser for 23 approval of that item, to continue the collection of that $10 24 fee. Is there any further discussion? There being none, 25 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 7-27-15 27 1 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 2 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 3 Item 1.2. This is a 9 o'clock item, timed, so we're eligible 4 to do that. This is a public hearing regarding the revision 5 of plat for Lots 7 and 8, Weis Acres, Volume 3, Page 135, 6 Precinct Number 4. 7 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 9:25 a.m., and a public hearing was held in open 8 court, as follows:) 9 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 10 JUDGE POLLARD: I declare the public hearing open. 11 Is there anybody that wishes to speak? (No response.) There 12 being no one, I close the -- I declare the public hearing 13 closed. 14 (The public hearing was concluded at 9:25 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 15 reopened.) 16 - - - - - - - - - - 17 JUDGE POLLARD: And we'll go to Item 1.3; consider, 18 discuss, and take appropriate action for the Court's final 19 approval regarding the revision of plat for Lots 7 and 8, 20 Weis Acres, Volume 3, Page 135, Precinct 4. Mr. Hastings? 21 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. This is the final 22 approval. We've reviewed this previously, just had the 23 public hearing. Just to recap, Melvin and Adela Jones own -- 24 they own Lots 7 and 8 in Weis Acres, Volume 3, Page 135, and 25 they would like to combine Lots 7 and 8, making a new lot, 7-27-15 28 1 8R, into 3.05 acres. And at this time, we're asking the 2 Court for their final approval regarding the revision of plat 3 for Lots 7 and 8, Weis Acres, Volume 3, Page 135. This is in 4 Precinct 4. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 8 approval of the plat as -- as indicated in Item 1.3. Is 9 there any further discussion? There being no further 10 discussion, those in favor of the motion, signify by raising 11 your right hand. 12 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 13 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.4 is a 14 public hearing regarding the revision of plat for Lots 15B 15 and 17B of Solar Village Subdivision, Volume 8, Page 71, in 16 Precinct Number 1. 17 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 9:27 a.m., and a public hearing was held in open 18 court, as follows:) 19 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 20 JUDGE POLLARD: I declare the public hearing open. 21 Is there anyone wishing to speak on that matter? 22 (No response.) There being no one, I declare the public 23 hearing closed. 24 (The public hearing was concluded at 9:27 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 25 reopened.) - - - - - - - - - - 7-27-15 29 1 JUDGE POLLARD: And we now go to Item 1.5; 2 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for Court's 3 final approval regarding the revision of plat for Lots 15B 4 and 17B of the Solar Vision Subdivision, Volume 8, Page 71, 5 Precinct 1. Mr. Hastings? 6 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. Again, we just had the 7 public hearing. We did have some discussion on this at our 8 last Commissioners Court where we discussed it, and to recap, 9 Douglas and Deborah Harris and Thomas Morgan are proposing in 10 this preliminary revision of plat to combine Lots 17B and 11 part of Lot 15B, making the proposed Lot 17C into 2.44 acres, 12 and adding the original tank tract which was owned by the 13 homeowners association, used for a water tank at one time, 14 abandoned. It was deeded to Mr. Morgan. He's deeding it to 15 Mr. Harris as part of the -- well, he's already done that, 16 but we're making this official in this plat, so -- the 17 original tank tract to the existing Lot 15B, making the 18 proposed Lot 15C into 2.06 acres. At this time, we're asking 19 the Court for their final approval regarding the revision of 20 plat for Lots 15B and 17B of Solar Village Subdivision, 21 Volume 8, Page 71; it's in Precinct 1. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Charlie, I consider this a 23 cleanup. It's just there's some things that are kind of 24 scattered around out there. This is the Honorable Bill 25 Stacy's subdivision from a long time ago, and through the 7-27-15 30 1 years things have kind of gotten scattered out, and they're 2 desiring to put everything back together and in its proper 3 place. Do you agree with that? 4 MR. HASTINGS: That's correct. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. I move for approval. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner Baldwin, 8 seconded by Commissioner Moser, for approval of Item 1.15, 9 final -- 10 MR. HASTINGS: May I make a correction? 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 12 MR. HASTINGS: I read this wrong. The revision of 13 plat is for Lots 15C and 17C of Solar Village Subdivision. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You ought to be ashamed. 15 MR. HASTINGS: Those are the new designations. It 16 has already been replatted once. I apologize. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 18 MS. STEBBINS: Was it posted as 15B and 17B? 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's posted as 15B and 17B. 20 MR. HASTINGS: Well we're revising 15B and 17B into 21 15C and 17C, so it was posted correctly. I just -- 22 MS. STEBBINS: Okay. 23 MR. HASTINGS: Part of my notes here I read wrong; 24 I wanted to make sure I clarified that. 25 MS. STEBBINS: Thank you, Charlie. 7-27-15 31 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. As corrected, then, is there 2 a motion? 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I move -- 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- for approval. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved by 7 Commissioner Baldwin and seconded by Commissioner Moser for 8 approval of the revision of Lots 15C and 17C, as set forth in 9 Item 1.5 of the agenda. Any further discussion? There being 10 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 13 let's go to Item 1.6; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 14 action for the Commissioners Court final approval for Crazy 15 Horse R.V., S.B. Turner Survey Number 34, Abstract Number 16 1490, and Deed Records, Volume 1072, Page 650, Precinct 4. 17 Mr. Hastings? 18 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. Lloyd and Quinby Williams 19 own property that was divided in 2006 and never platted. 20 It's 9.087 acres. This plat that is being proposed here is 21 to clear up the division from 2006. It should have been 22 platted at that time; it wasn't. And we're working under the 23 alternate plat process under Commissioners Reeves' approval. 24 And at this time, we're asking the Commissioners Court for 25 their final approval regarding Crazy Horse R.V., S.B. Turner 7-27-15 32 1 Survey Number 34, Abstract Number 1490, and Deed Record 2 Volume 1072, Page 650, Precinct 4. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioners Reeves 6 and seconded by Commissioner Letz for approval of Item 1.6 on 7 the agenda, which is the situation regarding the Crazy Horse 8 R.V., S.B. Turner Survey Number 34, Abstract 1490, also of 9 record in Volume 1072, Page 650 of the Deed Records of Kerr 10 County, Texas. I think that's official records of Kerr 11 County. Okay, is there any further discussion? There being 12 none, those in favor of the motion, signify by raising your 13 right hand. 14 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 15 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right. 16 Timed item, 1.7 is at 9:25; it's past that time. Consider, 17 discuss, and take appropriate action for the Court to accept 18 the preliminary revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 19 of the Staacke -- is that Staacke? Is that Bruce Staacke? 20 Is that his first name? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's a subdivision over in the 22 far southeastern -- 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Staacke Ranch, and set a public 24 hearing, Plat Record 11-4945, Precinct 3. Charlie Hastings. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Dr. Jay Wise owns Lot 17BR; it's 7-27-15 33 1 about 40 acres. And Harrison and Karin Buxton own Lot 17CR; 2 it's about 25 acres. The proposed revision of plat would be 3 Lot 17BR-1, 39 acres, and it will lose about an acre, and Lot 4 17CR-1, 26.6 acres; it will gain about an acre. They're 5 doing a little land swap there; they've revised the property 6 line between the two lots. It is a revision of plat, so it 7 does require a -- a public hearing. Commissioner Letz has 8 approved using the alternate plat process for this revision 9 of plat. At this time, we're asking the Commissioners Court 10 to accept the preliminary revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 11 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch Subdivision, Plat Record 11-4945, 12 and set a public hearing for Monday, September 14th, 2015, at 13 9 a.m. This is Precinct 3. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner Letz and 17 seconded by Commissioner Reeves to accept the preliminary 18 revision of the plat as set forth in Item 1.7 of the agenda 19 today, and to set a public hearing on -- what was it? On the 20 24th? 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: 14th. 22 MR. HASTINGS: 14th of September. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 14th of September. At what time? 24 MR. HASTINGS: 9 a.m. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: At 9 a.m. Is there any further 7-27-15 34 1 discussion? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Quick question. Heather, the 3 rules require a public hearing on a revision, and this is a 4 subdivision, but in the circumstances, both owners have to 5 sign the plat. Do we still need a public hearing? State 6 rules say you do, but to me, I don't see who can object to it 7 if both people are signing the plat that we're revising. 8 MS. STEBBINS: Well, if the rules say that we do, I 9 think that we do. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 11 MS. STEBBINS: Even if they're here and no one will 12 object. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, they're here. Both of 14 them are here today, but anyway, okay. 15 MR. ODOM: Two owners are here. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay, that's fine. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: I kind of agree with you. I think 18 if the parties on the plat waive that public hearing and 19 agree to it, maybe so; I don't know. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Seems logical, but sometimes 21 logic doesn't prevail. 22 MR. HASTINGS: Yeah, that's right. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Is there any further 25 discussion? There being none, those in favor of the motion, 7-27-15 35 1 signify by raising your right hand. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Item 1.8; 4 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action concerning a 5 request from Mr. Aubrey David, Fort Sam Houston National 6 Cemetery, to accept payment and authorize the Road and Bridge 7 Department to reconstruct the Veterans Administration 8 Cemetery drive -- driveway off of Spur 100, located in 9 state -- TexDOT right-of-way. Commissioner Moser. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks. Charlie Hastings was 11 approached by the Veterans Association -- or Veterans 12 Administration, I should say. I'm going to let Charlie 13 describe exactly what's being proposed here. It's in 14 Precinct 2, so -- 15 MR. HASTINGS: I received -- 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think we'll have some 17 questions on it, however. 18 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. We've received a request 19 from Aubrey David. He's with Fort Sam Houston National 20 Cemetery, and he also has some oversight over the V.A. 21 Cemetery here in Kerrville off of Spur 100. And we're in the 22 area, the vicinity. We've reconstructed that Spur 100 23 bridge. We're going -- we're redoing the base around the 24 bridge and for about a mile of road -- half a mile to a mile 25 of road. And while we're in the area, he said, "Can you redo 7-27-15 36 1 my driveway?" And we said, "Possibly. Let's put an estimate 2 together for you and go to Commissioners Court and get 3 permission to do that." It's not in our right-of-way; it is 4 in state right-of-way. TexDOT does not repair or 5 rehabilitate driveways; it's up to the property owner, so if 6 Aubrey David can't get help from us, he'll next -- his next 7 step would be to get a local contractor. We did put an 8 estimate together in the material, and I've shared this with 9 him. The material is about $570, and then the labor and 10 equipment would be another 1,150, approximately. My 11 recommendation would be we only charge for the material, 12 since it's for the V.A. And we're in the area; we already 13 have equipment out there. But we put an estimate together so 14 that you would know. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: How much time, hour-wise, would it 16 take? 17 MR. HASTINGS: We were looking at about four -- 18 about half a day, about four hours for us to do everything we 19 need to do. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: My first reaction was, "That's 21 the federal government; let them pay for it." Then, "It's 22 the State; let them pay for it." Then it's us; we're kind of 23 third on the list. However, if -- will they pay for the 24 material? 25 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, they would. 7-27-15 37 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. That's a -- and Road 2 and Bridge has a lot of equipment out there right now. How 3 many -- 4 MR. HASTINGS: We're out there. All of our 5 equipment is out there. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They're redoing the bridge, 7 and they're probably doing a quarter of a mile of road or 8 more than that right now, and in that same area. It's going 9 to be a very small impact, but it's going to be an impact, 10 okay. And it's in the veterans -- it's in the cemetery. A 11 lot of people go out there, and I've driven out there and 12 looked at it. It's pretty bad. And -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: How long is this driveway? 14 MR. HASTINGS: 30 foot in depth, and about 20 feet 15 wide. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. It's very -- like, from 17 here to the wall, and, you know, the width of this thing 18 here. So -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Would they -- are they willing 20 to pay for our labor costs as well? 21 MR. HASTINGS: I've given them an estimate of -- a 22 total estimate, and they -- they appear to be willing to pay 23 for it. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: My preference would be to 25 charge them the full amount. 7-27-15 38 1 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree. And they can't get any 2 private contractor to get anywhere close to that, I bet you. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll use, I'm sure, the -- 4 whatever the state uses. 5 MR. HASTINGS: The total job estimate is $1,731. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And the State doesn't have any 7 issue with us doing it? 8 MR. HASTINGS: No, they don't. We have applied for 9 a permit to reconstruct that driveway. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 11 MR. HASTINGS: Haven't turned it in, but we have 12 the paperwork, and they said it wouldn't be a problem. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I move that we authorize Road 14 and Bridge to do the work as described by Mr. Hastings, and 15 to charge the Veterans Administration for the full amount for 16 the work. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: The 1,700 and -- what's that 18 figure? 19 MR. HASTINGS: $1,731.17. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Don't forget the 17 cents. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And the 17 cents. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 24 seconded that we repair the driveway, and charge the Veterans 25 Administration that 1,700 and whatever-it-is figure. Is 7-27-15 39 1 there any further discussion? 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I've got a question. 3 Charging them is one thing, but do we really expect to 4 receive it? 5 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Or is this just -- have they 7 said -- have they agreed that they're going to pay the 1,700 8 and 27 cents? 9 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, I'll go along with it. 11 I think this is foolish. You have the federal government, 12 the state government, and we barely get by doing what we do 13 for our own selves. But close proximity, I think, is -- is 14 the issue. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They've got the equipment 16 right there. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: My only question -- and I think 18 we can, but can we do this, County Attorney? 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That was my questions. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: That's what I was going to ask. Is 21 there some prohibition -- 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I was going to ask it. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: It's not a county road, and -- 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We do interlocal agreements 25 with other governmental agencies, but I don't know that we -- 7-27-15 40 1 I mean, we've done work for private high schools, city of 2 Ingram, but we've never done it for the federal government, 3 to my knowledge. 4 MR. HASTINGS: And we do -- 5 MS. STEBBINS: I don't know. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is this for the federal 7 government, or is it for the state in this case? 8 MR. HASTINGS: I don't know. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's state property. 10 MR. ODOM: Federal government. 11 MR. HASTINGS: It's federal. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's right-of-way, but it extends 13 into the private property owned by the Veterans 14 Administration where that cemetery is, doesn't it? 15 MR. ODOM: It belongs to the Veterans 16 Administration. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Subject to the County Attorney 18 saying that we can do it. 19 MS. STEBBINS: I don't know that we need an 20 interlocal agreement. 21 MR. HASTINGS: We do driveways off of Kerr County 22 maintained roads to the property line, and that's what this 23 request is, with the exception it's not off of a county road; 24 it's off of a state road. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 7-27-15 41 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It helps that we're only going to 2 the property line. 3 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's in the easement. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, okay. We can do that, then, I 6 think. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It stays in the easement. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Other than it's a state -- 9 it's part of the spur, isn't it? 10 MS. STEBBINS: I'll just confirm and get with 11 Charlie. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? Let's see, 14 you made the motion? 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I made the motion. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I seconded it. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Commissioner Moser made the motion; 18 Commissioner Letz amended it, and seconded it as amended; 19 isn't that correct? 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Is there any further 22 discussion? If there's none, then those in favor, signify by 23 raising your right hand. 24 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 25 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you, 7-27-15 42 1 sir. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Charlie. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Item 1.9; presentation of the Texas 4 Historical Commission Distinguished Service Award to Kerr 5 County Historical Commission. Commissioner Baldwin, 6 Precinct 1. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. Do you have a 8 bunch of folks? You might want to get a picture, get 9 everybody in the picture. I'm in it, so you may need a 10 wide-angle lens. (Laughter.) 11 (Discussion off the record.) 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Here we go with the agenda 13 item. So, Texas Historical Commission presents this 2014 14 Distinguished Service Award to the Kerr County Historical 15 Commission in recognition of its active and well-balanced 16 preservation program, and it's signed by the Executive 17 Director of the Texas Historical Commission, Mark Wolfe. And 18 so I'm thrilled to be able to present this. How many is this 19 in a row now? 20 MS. LEONARD: Seven. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Seven in a row. 22 MS. LEONARD: Actually, probably more than that, 23 but seven since I've been here. And we're one of 73 counties 24 out of 254 counties that have gotten this award. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's fantastic. It is 7-27-15 43 1 incredible. But I'll tell you, I had the great pleasure to 2 go attend this last Saturday's meeting over at the Famous 3 Door, the dedication -- marker dedication. And these people 4 work hard. That was -- that was a tremendous function, and 5 we need to do it again this week, with free food this time. 6 (Laughter.) 7 MS. LEONARD: There was free cake. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Free cake. But they're 9 fantastic, one of my favorite organizations, so 10 congratulations. We're proud of you. 11 MS. LEONARD: Thank you. Thank y'all. 12 (Applause.) 13 (Discussion off the record.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Okay, we got to go to 15 the next item, and can you hold it down to a dull roar? 16 Thank you. All right. Item 1.10; consider, discuss, and 17 take appropriate action to approve the renewal memorandum of 18 understanding contract with Indigent Health Care Solutions 19 for the software program for Kerr County Indigent Health Care 20 program and authorize the County Judge to sign. There are no 21 contract changes or price changes from the current contract. 22 Rosa? 23 MS. LAVENDER: I pretty well got -- this is the 24 company that we use the software for our Indigent Health 25 program. It costs us about $18,000 annually. The price 7-27-15 44 1 hasn't gone up the last couple of years. It's very important 2 that we have this software; it's the best there is, and so I 3 would ask you to approve the renewal. 4 MS. STEBBINS: I've reviewed the contract. 5 MS. LAVENDER: Yes, and I did get a copy -- it was 6 signed originally September of 2008, and we couldn't find it. 7 I'm sure it was there, but we didn't find it, so I went ahead 8 and had them send us a copy of it so that Heather would have 9 it in her file with the other contracts that the County has. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What does this software do for 11 us? 12 MS. LAVENDER: Well, you input into it, and it 13 tells you how much to charge or how much to pay, and it has 14 all the medical codes in it and that sort of stuff. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 16 MS. LAVENDER: And it's a specialty type of item. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, got you. Thank you. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? All right. 19 Is there a motion? 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded by -- moved 24 by Commissioner Moser, seconded by -- who wants it? 25 Commissioner Baldwin? 7-27-15 45 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: He was louder. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: And he was a little bit first -- 3 ahead of you, too. Okay. Any further discussion? There 4 being none, those in favor of the motion, signify by raising 5 your right hand. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. Item 8 1.11; consider, discuss, take appropriate action to accept 9 donation from John Lavender, Rosa Lavender, and Judge Tom 10 Pollard of about 80 "History of Kerr County Courthouse and 11 Honoring the County Judges of Kerr County - Past and Present 12 - 1856 to 2015" booklets. This is -- Rosa wrote the book, 13 the history type thing. We have -- we were -- the Lavenders 14 and I funded it to get the first 100 of them printed, and we 15 were -- I guess they were printed by Herring Printing, and 16 the actual cost -- I think they did it at their cost -- is 17 $1.87 per booklet. I hope that all of you have seen the 18 booklet and read it. And we were planning -- it all started 19 out -- I was hoping to get it printed and put out here to be 20 given away free to the public, but we decided to charge $2 a 21 piece for them. And they -- there's not 80 of them now; I 22 think they've already been sold down to probably 50 or 60. 23 And there's a cash fund from that that's out there included 24 in the donation. So, anyway, the Lavenders and I got to 25 thinking about it; if we kept going like that, it was 7-27-15 46 1 probably a partnership, which meant we probably needed to 2 file a joint partnership return and K-1's to each one of our 3 income tax returns. And -- and, anyway, just a bad deal, and 4 we said, "Look, let's just give it to the County, let them 5 make something off of it if they want to," if the County's 6 willing to -- willing to take it. By the way, Commissioner 7 Baldwin, Rosa tells me she's prepared -- she's got a list of 8 all the County Commissioners. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You're kidding. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: And we can add that to the book the 11 next time it's printed. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did you really do that? 13 MS. LAVENDER: A list. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: And so I think that ought to be 15 done, too. And I -- I would -- I would like to see that that 16 is done next time they're printed, okay? Is there any -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I would say that the longest 18 tenure for any commissioner here would probably do as you do; 19 start paying for it, you know, make a large contribution. 20 (Laughter.) 21 JUDGE POLLARD: I put $125 in it. The Lavenders 22 put $87 and -- 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, we got to rethink 24 that. (Laughter.) 25 JUDGE POLLARD: We're ahead of the ball game by 7-27-15 47 1 taking it. I don't think it will end up costing anything. 2 MS. LAVENDER: And, actually -- 3 JUDGE POLLARD: There's enough money in there now 4 probably to order another 100 books. 5 MS. LAVENDER: The 13 cents, the difference in what 6 we paid, if you take all 80 books or whatever it was we had 7 when we did the count on them, it would be $10 and 8 20-something cents contribution to the County, so be careful 9 that you don't spend it all in one place. (Laughter.) 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How much are the books? 11 MS. LAVENDER: $1.87. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: They cost 1.87 to print. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, I want to purchase one 14 and give it to the little lady from the Kerrville Daily 15 Times, and -- 16 MS. LAVENDER: They have one. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, you have one? 18 MS. LAVENDER: I donated one. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did they buy one? 20 MS. LAVENDER: No, I donated one; you don't have to 21 give them one. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I need the press. 23 MS. LAVENDER: I donated one to you, too. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, okay. (Laughter.) 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Where are they? 7-27-15 48 1 MS. LAVENDER: I put them in your boxes. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, where do we buy them? 3 JUDGE POLLARD: The office out here. 4 MS. LAVENDER: Jody has them. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I've got an order for two. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, help yourself. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're going to pay. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Y'all want to charge -- do y'all 9 want to charge $2 for them? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: That keeps it going without it 12 costing anything. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They're neat little books. 15 I've enjoyed that. They're -- as an example, Judge Leavell 16 -- Level, Lovell. I've heard his name all my life, but I 17 couldn't fit him in with anything, and now I can see clearly 18 where he fits in, and how long Judge Neunhoffer was here. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 107 years. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And that's not a misprint. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 24 years, I think is correct. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 24 years. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: It was my pleasure to serve as 7-27-15 49 1 County Attorney under him. He was really a great -- I think 2 probably the best county judge we've ever had. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good book. Good book. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Really a good man. Boy, I can tell 5 you, the citizens' money was well protected when he was the 6 County Judge, 'cause he treated it like it was in his pocket. 7 Boy, you didn't get that money unless you were really 8 entitled to it. Boy, he was tight. Okay. And his -- by the 9 way, his sons are carrying on that tradition. (Laughter.) 10 They're tight, too. All right. What is your wish about this 11 donation? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I make a motion that we accept 13 your donations, and set the price for sale of the book at $2. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded to 17 accept the donation and sell the books for $2 a piece. Any 18 further discussion? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And just to clarify, the 20 donation -- both you and the Lavenders will recoup your 21 expenditure, and the balance will be the -- no? You're 22 donating it? 23 JUDGE POLLARD: We're donating that. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. They're donating, okay. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: We made that part of the decision. 7-27-15 50 1 We talked about it. We don't want it back. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 4 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 5 right hand. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: By the way, I expect the District 8 Judges are going to want to come down now and get a history 9 book with all the -- you just wait; it's going to happen. 10 MR. BOLLIER: Rosa can handle it. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You got a job for retirement. 13 MS. LAVENDER: Sounds like it. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Item 1.12; consider, discuss, and 15 take appropriate action to approve County Treasurer's office 16 Pitney Bowes postage machine lease renewal and have County 17 Judge sign same. Tracy Soldan? 18 MS. SOLDAN: This is a new lease for the postage 19 machine in my office. The County Attorney has reviewed the 20 lease, and I believe it actually goes down $2 per quarter, 21 which is how I'm billed, so -- 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner Baldwin, 25 seconded by Commissioner Reeves, for approval of Item 1.12, 7-27-15 51 1 to take action on the postage -- Pitney Bowes postage machine 2 as indicated in Item 1.12. Is there any further discussion? 3 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 4 right hand. 5 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 6 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.13; 7 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action regarding 8 updating the Kerr County Parks Rules and Regulations. 9 Commissioner Moser? 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. Thank you, Judge. The 11 -- the Sheriff and myself and -- and Tim revised the -- 12 simplified the Parks Rules and Regulations. We had a public 13 hearing or workshop, I forget which one -- workshop with a 14 public hearing. There was no comment on the proposed 15 changes. The only question was whether or not we should add 16 something about regulating boats on the river in Flat Rock 17 Park and other parks in the county, and this revision does 18 not address that. I think it was discussed that probably 19 there's sufficient rules and laws in place enforced by Parks 20 and Wildlife, and so we're not suggesting -- or as a result 21 of that, I move that we accept -- and I believe everybody has 22 a copy of the revised Parks Rules and Regulations -- that we 23 accept these modifications. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have -- I still have a 7-27-15 52 1 question. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm not going to second it. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: You just want to ask questions. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I still have a question about 6 enforcement of stuff. What I'm looking at is Section 10, use 7 of loudspeakers. Use of amplified sound or other loud or 8 unusual activity is prohibited. How's it defined? I mean, 9 if it's -- I know that the Sheriff has -- state law gives us 10 "loud." That can be measured and done. And I -- I just hate 11 having things in the rules like that, that -- that, you know, 12 this seems like something different than that. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, you know, if we can't 15 enforce them, there's no point in having them, to me. And 16 that's -- and I know the Sheriff isn't here, but enforcement 17 is my concern. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I understand. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Are you saying that -- 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You should have brought that 21 up earlier. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I have. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Are you saying you're afraid 24 they're not enforceable because of a lack of specificity, 25 something like that? 7-27-15 53 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just -- 2 JUDGE POLLARD: 'Cause if so, that's a question for 3 the County Attorney. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, it's -- you know -- 5 MS. STEBBINS: I don't know that it's -- I agree 6 with Jonathan. I think that that section is probably going 7 to be hard to enforce. The Sheriff does have authority to -- 8 to enforce these rules. There is a state law section that -- 9 that has noise restrictions and particular decibels, and the 10 Sheriff's Office probably has some piece of equipment that 11 they can use to determine how loud the music is and see if it 12 violates state law. I agree that Section 10 might be hard to 13 enforce. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, just to review the 15 bidding, the way this started is the County Attorney provided 16 us the revisions. We looked at it separately here, then we 17 had a public hearing -- a workshop. So, I don't -- I don't 18 have any issue with that, and I agree with you about being 19 vague. I think if something is blatantly causing a lot of 20 disruption to neighbors and things like that, it gives them 21 some authority to ask them to hold it down. I don't think 22 it's a thing that somebody's going to go out with a sound 23 meter and measure it to see if it violates -- could be, but I 24 don't disagree. If you want to take that out, make a motion 25 to take it out. 7-27-15 54 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, you know, and the other 2 one, looking at park use, that's a weird one to me. Same 3 thing; it's not -- you know, no person shall use any area of 4 facility for any purpose other than purpose for which it was 5 designed or designated. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do you want to change it? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We've been talking about this 9 for two months now, longer than that. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay? And -- 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I've always had my same 13 concerns. And, you know, I did not do my due diligence over 14 the weekend to read this, or go through it again. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: You know, that's -- those are the 16 enforcement provisions, and they may be vague and indefinite, 17 and some lawyer may be successful in striking that down, or 18 portions of it, because they are vague and indefinite. 19 However, it seems to me you got to have something. You got 20 to say something about enforcement. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I agree. I have no -- 22 JUDGE POLLARD: So why don't we just make the 23 lawyers do that? 24 MS. STEBBINS: And we can adopt the rules, and ask 25 people to leave if they don't follow the rules without 7-27-15 55 1 issuing a citation. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: I think it's vague. Even if 3 they're vague and indefinite, I'm suggesting that we pass 4 them and give the Sheriff some authority to at least talk to 5 them about it, maybe initiate an enforcement. You have 6 something to say? 7 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir, I do. What kind of 8 liabilities are we under out at the parks and stuff without 9 rules and stuff? What kind of liabilities -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think we have rules and 11 regulations. This is just an update, a modification. 12 MR. BOLLIER: Okay. I just -- I mean, my concern 13 was, you know, people go out there, and somebody gets hurt. 14 I'm just -- 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's a different -- 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. We have one. This is 17 just simplifying, taking a bunch of -- 18 MR. BOLLIER: Yes, sir. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: People getting hurt doesn't really 20 have anything to do with -- unless they violate a rule in 21 doing that. People are going to find a way to get hurt 22 anyway. 23 MR. BOLLIER: Right. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: And probably turn around and sue 25 the county someday. That's just the way -- we live in a 7-27-15 56 1 litigious society. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think -- and I don't 3 disagree with Commissioner Letz, but -- and we posted this on 4 the website so everybody in the county could have an 5 opportunity, and we made -- made it clear that it was there. 6 There wasn't anybody in the entire county that had anything 7 to say about it. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second to the motion? 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 11 seconded that the Park Rules and Regulations be approved as 12 read. Is there any further discussion? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You know, I would -- I will 14 likely vote for it, but I think there's -- one of the things 15 that -- you know, the park hours, I have no problem with the 16 hours, except that I believe we do have night fishing, and I 17 think we need to make -- you know, there's some things I 18 think we need to -- the next step is to work up a sign to 19 post the rules. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Absolutely. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And that may be, you know, 22 based on these. We'll have to boil it down to something 23 that's reasonably short for people to look at so they're 24 aware of what the rules are, including things like fishing -- 25 fishing at night off trolling motors. 7-27-15 57 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I agree with that 100 percent. 2 And also, I think we should have some boiled down guidelines 3 or laws regarding use of boats on the river. I think that 4 would help a lot; like, 50 feet from the shore and et cetera, 5 et cetera, so close to other boats that exist. So, I think 6 if we can do that as another action by the Court, I think we 7 should do that. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think these are a big 9 improvement over what we have now. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, good. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: But they're -- we're going to kind 12 of consider them as a bridge deal? Temporary, and then 13 there's going to be -- 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, these will be 15 obligated -- updated onto our rules and regulations. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They are the rules till they're 17 changed. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. All right. Any -- 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I've got one thing I'm 20 concerned about, is the time frame. If you're running your 21 trotlines with a trolling motor before daylight, before 22 6 o'clock, before you go to work, who's going to -- you know, 23 are we going to lock the gates? That's the other thing I've 24 got -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We don't have gates. 7-27-15 58 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So how are we going to keep 2 them out? 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's why I said we need to 4 post the sign. You can post, "Night fishing exempted." 5 MR. BOLLIER: You can keep them out of the park; 6 you just can't keep them out of the boat ramp. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: So you can go out there any time 8 you want to as long as you take a fishing boat with you, 9 okay. Even if you don't use it. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, if you get upstream, you 11 can get in there anyway. We have no control. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: People will figure some way around 13 it anyway. 14 MR. BOLLIER: I'm under the impression that where 15 the boat ramp is, that all belongs to the city. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. 18 MR. BOLLIER: That doesn't? 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The boat ramp at Lions Park 20 doesn't. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It may be in the city limits, 22 but it belongs to Kerr County. 23 MR. BOLLIER: Okay. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion 7-27-15 59 1 or comments? There being none, those in favor of the motion, 2 signify by raising your right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You're not going to bring 6 that back again, are you? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Never. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Attaboy. That's what I 9 like. (Laughter.) 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He wore us down finally, 11 Buster. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, no kidding. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Consider, discuss, and take 14 appropriate action regarding adding Guardian critical illness 15 plan to our Guardian accident and cancer policy currently 16 offered to Kerr County employees as a voluntary product. 17 Dawn Lantz. 18 MS. LANTZ: Good morning, Judge, Commissioners. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: And somebody else. 20 MR. LOONEY: And somebody else. 21 MS. LANTZ: This is Gary Looney from -- 22 MR. LOONEY: Alamo Insurance Group in San Antonio. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You've heard of Looney 24 Tunes? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's him. 7-27-15 60 1 MR. LOONEY: I think you ought to write a prologue 2 to the judges book since you know so much. 3 MS. LANTZ: Currently we offer a product to the 4 employees that they pay 100 percent for, and that's their -- 5 that's their accident and cancer policy. This is another 6 component to the Guardian Insurance that we weren't aware 7 that we could also add to it for employees if they wanted to 8 do that. So, I'm just bringing it to the Court, and Gary's 9 going to explain what this policy is. And it is -- well, I 10 believe the policies we have on cancer and accident are 11 portable, which means that if someone retires or terminates 12 with the county, they can take it with them. They can 13 continue paying it. And this one is -- 14 JUDGE POLLARD: What's the additional cost if they 15 elect to do it? 16 MR. LOONEY: None to the county. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: None to the county. 18 MS. LANTZ: There on the backup sheet, you should 19 have a price sheet for employees, what their costs would be, 20 but this is strictly 100 percent funded by the employees if 21 they choose to take it. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It kind of covers part of the 23 deductible. Isn't that the whole -- 24 MR. LOONEY: Essentially, what it does, it makes a 25 cash payment for any initial diagnosis of any of the disease 7-27-15 61 1 items -- any of the incidents you see on the list under this. 2 And that way it helps offset any expense that the employee 3 may have out-of-pocket that would satisfy any of the expenses 4 that they might have for the medical plan or any other area. 5 There's not any requirement other than the initial diagnosis 6 of the disease. Once that's diagnosed, then there's a cash 7 payment made in the full amount of the policy. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Does it cover eyes? Kidding. 9 MR. LOONEY: Sir? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You weren't here. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Only left eyes. 12 MR. LOONEY: And we work really well with the 13 Guardian contract. It's a -- they've done a good job for us 14 on the voluntary products up to this point, so this is in 15 addition to that process. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I think it's just another 17 benefit we can offer the employees of the county. It's not 18 -- if I'm correct, it's not going to cost the county 19 anything. I move to accept this proposal and offer it to our 20 employees. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded -- moved by 23 Commissioner Reeves, and seconded by -- who was it? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Me. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Commissioner Letz, to accept that 7-27-15 62 1 -- that additional policy coverage, and to be exercised at no 2 cost to the county, and to be optional to the county 3 employees at their sole cost. Is there any further 4 discussion? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question, Gary. Are these -- 6 I'm looking at it. Some of these are, I guess, pretty broad. 7 MR. LOONEY: Hmm? 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're broad. Some of these 9 conditions are pretty broad. Are they -- 10 MR. LOONEY: In the medical community, all of those 11 have a particular CPT code assigned to them, and once you 12 fall in those coding categories, it becomes a payable 13 expense. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 15 MS. LANTZ: And my understanding is that anyone who 16 accepts or does sign this, there is no evidence of 17 insurability. They're automatically taken onto the plan. 18 MR. LOONEY: It's a guaranteed-issue product. That 19 doesn't mean that there are not preexisting conditions. You 20 can't have already been diagnosed within the last six months 21 and expect coverage. After 12 months, regardless of what the 22 time limit is, then you're covered under the plan, if it's a 23 diagnosis under this plan, even though it was diagnosed 24 previously in a previous year. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. There being no further 7-27-15 63 1 discussion, I hope, those in favor, signify by raising your 2 right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you 5 very much. 6 MS. LANTZ: Thank you. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Consider, discuss -- 8 Item 1.25; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action 9 regarding the 2016 Kerr Central Appraisal District budget. 10 Any questions about the Appraisal District budget that was 11 sent over last week? 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't know that I have a 13 question or not. I haven't looked at it. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Comments? 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I believe we've got 30 days 16 to accept or veto this budget, don't we? And maybe if we 17 wait -- 18 MS. DOSS: It says 30 days, and that was from the 19 23rd of July. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So we could, at our next 21 meeting, first meeting in August -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think it would be good. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Let us review it, and then we 24 can still can accept or veto it. And -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So no action. 7-27-15 64 1 JUDGE POLLARD: You move that we recess it until 2 the next Commissioners Court meeting, and have it on the next 3 Commissioners Court -- 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just place it on the next 5 agenda. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I -- an additional comment 8 to that is, I believe that if we don't do anything, it's a 9 sign of approval. And we -- at times, we've been happy with 10 it; we vote yes. If we're kind of indifferent, we don't do 11 anything. If we don't like it, we vote no. So, I mean, kind 12 of -- that's how we've kind of done it. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yeah. And my first glance at 14 it, it looks like they're trying as best as we are to hold 15 down the costs. Insurance is going up, very minimal salary 16 increases, but I'd still like more time to review it. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. All right. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: One more question about it. 19 Are there other -- don't other government entities agree or 20 disagree with this and then vote? 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Last year the City did not agree. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: City did not agree. And who 23 else votes? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's all the members. The 25 schools -- both the school districts. 7-27-15 65 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, okay. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All taxing entities. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, okay. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: ESD's, school boards. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Both cities. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: U.G.R.A., Headwaters. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I remember now. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You'll catch on. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Ended up having a pretty contested 10 hearing over the City's objection last time. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Let's skip over now to 13 Item 1.20; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 14 request to use courthouse grounds on November 11, 2015, for 15 Veterans Day parade and festival. Maggie Baker. Is she 16 here? 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know if she's here, but 18 she probably doesn't think that we're this fast this morning. 19 MS. GRINSTEAD: She said she could be here about 20 10:30, so -- 21 MR. ROBLES: Do you want me to go get her? 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Do we need to -- anybody want to 23 make a motion to -- 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We can do this thing. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 7-27-15 66 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second it. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, that's what I was 4 hoping. Moved by Commissioner Letz and seconded by 5 Commissioner Baldwin that we approve Item 1.20 for the use of 6 the courthouse grounds for a Veterans Day parade and 7 festival. Maggie was very successful. Any further 8 discussion? There being none, those in favor of the motion, 9 signify by raising your right hand. 10 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.22; 12 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on personnel 13 in the County Attorney's office. Executive session requested 14 on that. All right. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that needed, Heather? 16 MS. STEBBINS: Yes, sir. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Before we go into 20 executive session, let's -- let's pay the bills. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move we pay the bills. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded by -- it 24 was moved by Commissioner Baldwin and seconded by 25 Commissioner Reeves (sic) that we pay the bills as presented. 7-27-15 67 1 Any further discussion? If not, those in favor, signify by 2 raising your right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 4.2, budget 5 amendments. County Auditor. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move we approve the budget 7 amendments. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved that the budget 9 amendments be approved. Is there a second? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Commissioner Baldwin seconds the 12 motion. Any further discussion? There being none, those in 13 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 14 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 15 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Late bills. 16 County Auditor. 17 MS. DOSS: Yes, there's one late bill for 18 fingerprinting for an employee at the Ag Extension Agent 19 office, Angela Fiedler. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner Letz and 23 seconded by Commissioner Baldwin for approval of paying that 24 late bill for the fingerprints out at the ag center, or 25 whatever she said. Any further discussion? There being 7-27-15 68 1 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 4.4, approve 4 and accept monthly reports. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Reports for today: 6 Constable, Precinct 3, monthly report for June 2015; J.P., 7 Precinct 4, monthly report for June 2015; County Clerk's 8 Statement of Financial Income and Expense for the month of 9 June 2015; County Treasurer, monthly report for June 2015; 10 County Treasurer, Kerr County portfolio summary for period 11 April 1, 2015 through June 30, 2015. Move to approve. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I have a question. And it may 14 be standard operational procedure, but just looking at the 15 monthly report from Constable, Precinct 3, one of the items, 16 Performance Measures, it says, "Number of hours spent on 17 patrol," and it just says "daily." Doesn't say anything 18 about number of hours, so it's putting the wrong -- wrong 19 parameter in there. And on number of traffic warnings 20 issued, it doesn't have anything; it shows the amount. So -- 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Good point. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is a good point. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He should fill out -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, he ought to put the data 25 in there that's requested. 7-27-15 69 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Specifically. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right, okay. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll relay that to Constable 4 Garza. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that may be -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Maybe it's to all of them. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think a memo to all of 8 them. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: To all. Maybe the Judge will 10 do a memo to all of them. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, good deal. Thanks. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Because monthly reports, I 14 think, are looked at lightly by some elected officials, and 15 they shouldn't be. They're intended to give information of 16 what they're doing. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Good catch. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Want to include that in 20 the motion, then? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Second agrees to that? All 23 right. It was moved by Commissioner Letz and seconded by -- 24 which one? 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'll take it. 7-27-15 70 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Commissioner Baldwin, that the 2 monthly reports be accepted, and that a memo be sent to all 3 constables about putting some specifics in there as to the 4 time they're on patrol daily, and indicating dates. And what 5 was the other issue? 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think it was just to put in 7 the proper measurements -- 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- for all of the requested 10 information. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. But as to -- were there 12 traffic enforcement -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, number of traffic 14 citations was one that was blank. And then the hours was -- 15 it just said "daily," so those are two examples. But I think 16 the general thing was -- 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I noticed on some of the 18 other ones, they put, "6 hours a day," something like that. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Which is -- you know, it 21 doesn't say, "I went on at 7:00 and I went off at 4:00," but 22 six hours spent patrolling or whatever. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's the way I read the 24 question. Six would be fine. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 7-27-15 71 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Is there any further 2 discussion on that motion? There being none, those in favor, 3 signify by raising your right hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's four -- were you in favor, 6 Mr. Moser? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes, I did. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. I'm sorry, I didn't see 9 it, but I don't see well. All right. It's 4-0, unanimous. 10 Reports from Commissioners and liaison/committee assignments 11 per attachments. Any? Anyone? 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I -- no, but I want to bring 13 something up right quick. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, go ahead. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This Friday, we have a 16 budget workshop. It's not limited to anything, the way I 17 understand -- the way I understand it. And recently I 18 brought in the D.P.S. officer to hire on with the -- as a 19 deputy constable and work the interstate. And since then, 20 I've seen some law that maybe we -- we'd have a hard time 21 doing that. And so my request today is to ask the County 22 Attorney to, this Friday, bring her opinion of what our 23 authority is in doing something like that. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Would you mind, please? 7-27-15 72 1 MS. STEBBINS: Of course not. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I didn't think so. 3 MS. STEBBINS: So the question is just whether or 4 not you can appoint -- 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Have a deputy constable. 7 MS. STEBBINS: -- a deputy constable to work 8 throughout the county? 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's right. That's right. 10 And traffic control, I think, was one of the issues, and 11 there's two or three issues. I'll be glad to get with you. 12 MS. STEBBINS: Okay. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Somewhere down the line, too -- and 14 I think maybe I'll ask that it be on the next agenda about -- 15 talking about executive session on real estate properties 16 that the County has. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: And I would like to take a look at 19 that. I did get a call from Brinkman Real Estate again this 20 past week wanting to know what our wishes are regarding that 21 5.6 acres, so let's put something on it. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We had several properties. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: So let's put something on there to 24 try to find -- 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: He said about 30 days, so -- 7-27-15 73 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: For appraisals. We authorized 2 appraisals of -- 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: He's working on them now. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. All right. Anything else? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Only other thing that I would 6 add is not from -- a report from any group or anything, but I 7 sure am getting a lot of calls about recycling, you know. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, me too. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think that people are 10 saying -- you know, I hear a lot of people saying, "I'm just 11 not going to recycle. It's going out of my way; can't do 12 it." I don't know if there's -- and I think I asked the 13 County Auditor to just look at -- I'm not proposing it -- 14 just what would be the cost of operation based on what the 15 City was paying in their operating costs for the facility 16 over there. We still have the facility. I don't know if 17 there's anything we want to consider in the future, but if 18 it's -- 19 JUDGE POLLARD: What happened to Mr. Reeves' 20 suggestion about how people can -- you had a place that could 21 take their stuff. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: They're doing it. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I'm sending people over 24 there. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's a private place. I've 7-27-15 74 1 mentioned it to people in Precinct 2. It's -- it's a long 2 way for people in Precinct 2 or Precinct 3 to go. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Not very far from Precinct 4. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, right. So that -- 5 that's -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: What I thought -- I've thought 7 about this. I've not had as many calls as some of you, but I 8 have had some, and for the County Attorney to look at -- why 9 couldn't we interlocal with a private company to represent 10 us? And even if we paid them a slight -- you know, $1,000 a 11 year, whatever it is, to have them do the recycling so that 12 we're -- it's a county recycling facility still. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we could do an RFP -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- on something like that, 17 which would be a minimal cost to us, it seems. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think it would be 20 beneficial to those companies, 'cause we're going to be 21 publicizing them as we -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: As our recycling facility. I 23 think that's -- that's an excellent option. It's better than 24 -- but I still would like to see what it would -- what's the 25 ballpark estimated cost for operating the facility like the 7-27-15 75 1 City was doing it. 2 MS. DOSS: Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You know, I'm sure the City 4 would share some of that information. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: I saw a report from them somewhere; 6 it was a pretty big figure. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, I bet it is. If we 8 could do something like -- where you say here what it costs, 9 okay? If we can do it for something like you're suggesting, 10 I think that's a great idea, but I think there's -- there's 11 -- you know, there's a lot of public interest in that going 12 away, so -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Us doing it for something like you 14 talked about I believe is a pipe dream. We're going to end 15 up paying a lot of money on this. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, we have one that's doing 17 it for us basically at no cost. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Right. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: He's providing a very good 20 service. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: That's the one I -- 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I wouldn't be surprised if 23 the -- the facility out past the airport wouldn't be able to 24 do the same thing if you stop in and talk to them. They're 25 providing very good service, very convenient. In some cases, 7-27-15 76 1 they're even paying. I can only say for the one out -- 2 Mr. Drane's, he's wanting to provide it. He's had a couple 3 good stories in the newspaper about why he's doing it, and 4 it's to help. And -- 5 JUDGE POLLARD: That's Steve Drane's son, isn't it? 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I believe so. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Dr. Drane's grandson. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Right. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's correct. And so I 11 think there's some valuable services available out there, and 12 we keep looking at what is available. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. The more the private 14 sector does it, fantastic. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, I agree with that. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Different topic, but on 18 Wednesday, Commissioner Moser and myself and Charlie, Brenda 19 Doss, Keller Drozdick -- 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You going to charter a bus? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm already going to be there 22 for other reasons, but there's a meeting at the Water 23 Development Board in Austin to go through the whole planning 24 process, where we are on grants. It's kind of getting 25 everyone up to speed on the East Kerr project. Kind of, 7-27-15 77 1 we're at the point that we think we need to have another 2 meeting up there, so they're pulling their staff together in 3 Austin, and we'll be up there that morning -- or I think it's 4 late morning. I -- for those that haven't seen the email, I 5 did ask if they would change it to 11:00 as opposed to 10:00, 6 because Keller can't get there till, he says, 10:45. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And they're supposed to have 8 the Director -- 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, Director Jackson's going 10 to be there. And some other very good news for this project 11 is that Director Bruun, who's been here and is very 12 supportive of this, is now chairman. He was a -- he was 13 appointed by Governor Abbott to be chairman of the Texas 14 Water Development Board. That's a three-person board. And 15 former Chairman Rubinstein resigned, probably to do other 16 things. But -- so two of the three, the chairman and 17 Director Jackson have been here, and both are very supportive 18 of this project, which is good news. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And they requested -- what, 20 Friday? -- a lot of additional information from us. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, and we're going to have to 22 go over the items. I've asked them to go over it and explain 23 a lot of what they want. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, so we're going to do 25 that Wednesday, as opposed to giving them what they want? 7-27-15 78 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, we can try to get it 2 together. I mean, it's up to -- 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think we ought to try and 4 get as much as we can. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's obvious that they've still got 6 it on their mind, and y'all are keeping it that way by 7 meeting with them, and that's a good thing. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is the number two project 9 in the state of Texas for state water -- or Clean Water Act 10 funding. And the city of Kerrville had one on, and I noticed 11 it was like 160, so -- but that shows -- not the city of 12 Kerrville, but out of many hundreds of projects, we were the 13 number two in the state. And the one ahead of us is a fairly 14 small project; it shouldn't take a whole lot of the funding, 15 'cause you kind of get first come, first served on that list. 16 So -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. So I guess the -- the 18 data that they're asking for needs to come from the -- from 19 the County Auditor and from -- from Environmental. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think Keller has most of it. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Does he? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think he has all the 23 information already. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Maybe while you're going to 25 Austin -- 7-27-15 79 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll call him when I'm driving. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, can I bring up one 4 other item, please? 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Sure. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just -- it's really to 7 tell a small story as to how government works sometimes. 8 Several years ago, the little school out on Upper Turtle 9 Creek and the cemetery, we maintained that. County-owned, 10 and we maintained it, and it was beautiful. And we -- Tim's 11 group went out there, and the prisoners went out there, and 12 we cut all the cedar trees down. You could go down and look 13 at the creek, and beautiful place. And we put a new floor in 14 the building, leveled it up, new windows, and painted it, 15 and, I mean, it was really nice. And some of the community 16 guys out there started screaming and raising hell with me 17 about -- about the facility, so I locked the doors and locked 18 them out until we got through. And they didn't like that at 19 all, and I don't -- to this moment, I don't care what they 20 like. And so eventually, we got the thing fixed up. 21 Everything's fixed up and ready to go. Unlocked the doors, 22 and we gave it to them. The County gave them ownership -- 23 JUDGE POLLARD: I remember this incident. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- to the cemetery and the 25 little school. Well, the thing has grown up now, and it 7-27-15 80 1 looks like hell. The neighbors are calling, and guess who 2 they're calling? That's how -- that's how government works 3 sometimes, is that right there. It doesn't matter who 4 actually owns the thing. We're responsible. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, maybe -- 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: In their minds. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Maybe the County ought to ask for 8 it back if they're not going to maintain it. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I'd be happy to do -- 10 or you'd be happy to do that. It just -- it's just crazy. 11 You can't win either way you go about the thing. But it's 12 such a beautiful, historic -- beautiful place. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: It is. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No good deed shall be 16 unpunished. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I guess so. 18 Hallelujah. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You can go down -- I guess 20 they've figured out how to do it in Precinct 3. Cypress 21 Creek and Lane Valley are both well-kept, well-used; we don't 22 spend a penny on either of them. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I know. That's all I've got 24 to say. I can't wait till executive session. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, boy. All right. Listen, we 7-27-15 81 1 kind of combined 5.1, .2, and .3 all together there. Any 2 other reports of any kind on any of those? All right. 5.1, 3 Commissioners/liaison committee assignments. Elected 4 officials, department heads? Anybody? Reports from boards, 5 commissions, and committees? City/county joint projects or 6 operations reports? None. Okay, then we'll go into 7 executive session now. I'll read this. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Five-minute break? 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, absolutely, 5-minute break. 10 (Recess taken from 10:30 a.m. to 10:40 a.m.) 11 - - - - - - - - - - 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's -- this is a 13 continuation of the Commissioners Court meeting on this date, 14 July 27th -- yeah, 27th, 2015, and we've completed the 15 regular agenda. Now we're going into closed session, and the 16 Commissioners Court reserves the right to adjourn into 17 executive session at any time to discuss any of the above 18 matters listed as permitted by law, including if they meet 19 the qualifications of Section 551.071, consultation with 20 attorney; 551.072, 551.073, 551.074, 551.078 and .0785, 21 551.076, and 551.087, all in Chapter 551 of the Texas 22 Government Code. 23 (The open session was closed at 10:40 a.m., and an executive session was held, the transcript of which 24 is contained in a separate document.) 25 - - - - - - - - - - 7-27-15 82 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, we're back in open 2 session now. The closed session is over. Is there any 3 business that we need in open session? 4 MS. STEBBINS: No, sir. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Then I'll entertain a motion to 6 adjourn. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 10 adjourn. Those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 13 (Commissioners Court adjourned at 11:00 a.m.) 14 - - - - - - - - - - 15 STATE OF TEXAS | 16 COUNTY OF KERR | 17 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 18 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 19 official reporter for the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 20 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 21 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 30th day of July, 2015. 22 23 REBECCA BOLIN, Kerr County Clerk 24 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 25 Certified Shorthand Reporter 7-27-15