1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Regular Session 10 Monday, September 14, 2015 11 9:00 a.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 25 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 2 1 I N D E X September 14, 2015 2 PAGE 3 --- Commissioners' Comments 5 4 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to fill vacant/budgeted position in Animal Services 5 Department 10 6 1.2 Public Hearing regarding revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch, Pct. 3 11 7 1.27 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 8 regarding revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch, Pct. 3 11 9 1.3 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 10 accept preliminary revision of plat for Lots 5 and 6 of Highlands Ranch Subdivision; set a 11 public hearing, Pct. 1 13 12 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to rescind Court Order #34227 and consider 13 authorization for revised capital expenditures for Environmental Health Department 14 14 1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 15 approve and release funds regarding privately maintained Kerrwest Ranch Subdivision, Pct. 4 20 16 1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 17 award certificate of appreciation to American Red Cross Hill Country Chapter 22 18 1.7 Consider/discuss and take appropriate action to 19 reappoint Donna Damon and Chris Hughes for a two-year term to ESD #1, to expire January 2018 26 20 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 21 requests from Kerr County Fair Board Association including, but not limited to, use of Flat Rock 22 Park, River Star Arts & Events Park, and closure of Riverside Drive for Kerr County Fair 26 23 1.9 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 24 accept donation of a recycling trailer from City of Kerrville; allow the County Judge to 25 sign same 29 3 1 I N D E X (Continued) September 14, 2015 2 PAGE 1.10 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 3 regarding agreement between Bandera Electric Cooperative, Inc., and Kerr County, Texas 35 4 1.12 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 5 approve Memorandum of Understanding between Hill Country Council on Alcohol and Drug Abuse, 6 Inc., and the Kerr County Court 38 7 1.11 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding resolution by Kerr Central Appraisal 8 District pertaining to the sale of existing building, purchase of land, and construction 9 of new building 40 10 1.13 Public Hearing on proposed Kerr County 2015 Tax Rate 55 11 1.14 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 12 open bids received from the RFP for fencing at Animal Services, River Star Park, and polo fields 13 at Hill Country Youth Event Center; distribute to appropriate personnel for review and evaluation, 14 and award contract if appropriate -- 15 1.15 Public Hearing on County Clerk's Written Archival Plan 73 16 1.16 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 17 approve County Clerk's Written Archival Plan as presented 73 18 1.17 Public Hearing on District Clerk's Written 19 Archival Plan 74 20 1.18 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve District Clerk’s Written Archival Plan 21 as presented 74 22 1.19 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to appoint Commissioner Reeves to fill vacancy on 23 AACOG’s Criminal Justice Advisory Committee (alternate) to replace Bill Blackburn 75 24 1.20 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 25 ratify and confirm proclamation regarding Texas 39 Day 76 4 1 I N D E X (Continued) September 14, 2015 2 PAGE 3 1.21 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve 2016 budget for Kerr 9-1-1 77 4 1.22 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 5 enter into lease for West Kerr County Annex building; authorize County Judge to sign 81 6 1.23 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 7 Change Order No. TX-141123A-001 for the Motorola Communication System for Kerr County Sheriff's 8 Office 82 9 1.24 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve the SAVNS Maintenance Grant Contract 10 between Office of the Attorney General and Kerr County 84 11 1.25 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 12 clarify Court Order Numbers 34224, 34225, and 34226; authorize County Judge to sign appropriate 13 papers for submission of EDAP and CWSRF applications 86 14 1.26 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 15 have joint meeting with UGRA Board of Directors to review water permit analysis of Kerr County 16 MOU with GBRA 87 17 4.1 Pay Bills 94 4.2 Budget Amendments 94 18 4.3 Late Bills -- 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 95 19 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee 20 Assignments -- 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads 96 21 --- Adjourned 99 22 23 24 25 5 1 On Monday, September 14, 2015, at 9:00 a.m., a regular 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. It's September 14, 2015. 8 It's 9 a.m., sayeth the Sheriff, and Kerr County 9 Commissioners Court is in session. And I think Mr. Reeves is 10 up, and he'll lead us today. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: If we could stand for a 12 moment of prayer and then the pledge. 13 (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, this is the part of the 15 agenda where any visitors wishing to speak -- have any signed 16 up to speak? I haven't been presented with anything. Is 17 there anybody wishing to speak that hasn't signed up? Okay. 18 There being none, we'll go on to Commissioners' comments. Do 19 you have any? 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I do not at this 21 time, thank you. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: You liked that Cowboy game, though. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I liked the Cowboy game, and 24 I like my family a lot. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 9-14-15 6 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: One and the same. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Mr. Moser? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, I have one thing. Last 4 week, the Kerrville Economic Development Corporation was 5 identified as the 2015 Community Economic Development 6 Organization, and received an award by the Texas Economic 7 Development Council. So, out of the entire state, that's 8 quite an accomplishment, so congratulations to them. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: And I think they've requested some 10 presence. Is anybody here from -- 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Jonas is here. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, Jonas is here? 13 MR. TITAS: Good morning. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's an agenda item, isn't it? 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you have anything to say, Jonas? 16 MR. TITAS: No. We will be doing a photo and press 17 release, and definitely when we do receive the award at 18 Dallas in October, we would like representation from the 19 county at that event, so that'll be the 15th of October. So, 20 whether it be our board member or the County Judge, we can 21 discuss those matters. So, we definitely appreciate your 22 support. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, thank you. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Congratulations. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: I don't have anything. Jonathan? 9-14-15 7 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Two things. One, this weekend 2 is the Notre Dame Catholic School festival, their 103rd, and 3 my youngest, Gus, is there. I would -- I have plenty of 4 tickets here for anyone that wants to buy tickets for the 5 raffle. And I think the grand prize is a $5,000 prepaid Visa 6 card. There's a number of other ones as well. So, anyway, 7 there's that, but on a little bit more of a serious note, I 8 wanted to give a little update -- and Bob may add a little 9 bit to this one, 'cause it's not on the agenda, to give 10 information to the public and to the rest of the Court, kind 11 of an update as to where we are with our negotiations on the 12 Hill Country Youth Event Center and/or our management 13 agreement. Last Friday, Bob and I had quite a long call with 14 Peter Zingoni and went through the agreement. There's a 15 red-line agreement that is kind of -- Bob and I put together, 16 which is compiled of comments from the County Attorney's 17 office and the Auditor's office that was going to be handed 18 out to the rest of the Court, but I've not seen that, just if 19 y'all want -- any additional comments can be made. 20 There is nothing from, you know, their mind or ours 21 that's going prevent the agreement from being signed. 22 There's obviously some things we're working on, but they're 23 not, certainly, significant, any of the kind of things that 24 really were a concern to us. On the phone, anyway, they 25 didn't have any problem. Some of the bigger issues, it's how 9-14-15 8 1 we look at a lot of things kind of more clearly, so if 2 there's a problem -- we just want to get rid of the gray as 3 much as we possibly could out of the agreement. So, that's 4 proceeding. They are going to be down here -- "they," being 5 Spectra Management Corp., will be down in the area quite a 6 bit the week of the 21st and 28th of September. They're 7 going to be bringing down different groups, three of them. 8 They'll be here probably three days at a time, and we'll be 9 actually starting towards a transition, and I just want to 10 let everyone know that they're going to be here on that. 11 We did talk briefly about delaying the actual 12 turnover for 15 days till October 15th. I really don't know 13 if that was -- I guess we really hadn't talked about it in 14 court. It will be on our next agenda a little bit. There's 15 going to be a transition where we're going to need our staff 16 and their staff there, but it's all moving rapidly. I just 17 want to let everyone know that. And they will be starting to 18 do some local advertising; people are going to be here. To 19 my knowledge, they have not officially contacted anybody in 20 the community yet, but they will starting next week, about 21 posting some job openings, looking for sponsorships and 22 things like that. But, anyway, so it's progressing. They'll 23 be down here quite a bit the next couple weeks after this 24 week, and everything looks like it's going to work out. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And so what's left is -- is 9-14-15 9 1 the signing of the contract? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that what's left to do? 4 And that would be the Judge, or -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It will be back at the court; 6 it will be on our next agenda. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. All right, thank you. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think that's -- Bob, do 9 you have anything to add to that part of it? 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I think I you covered that 11 pretty good. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: You have anything else? 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I think, Sheriff, we made it 14 through a week without having to see west Kerr County at 15 night. 16 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Shhh. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But hopefully due to cooler 18 weather, we'll slow things down. Once again, I see Chief 19 Lenard came into the courtroom, and he's -- he's been out 20 there with us when we've needed him. In a little while, 21 we'll even recognize another group here. I do believe we 22 had, out in your precinct, a little fire that burned up quite 23 a bit of acreage. But I just urge everybody, even though 24 it's getting cool, we've had a few showers, please be very 25 careful in everything you do, 'cause we've seen how fast that 9-14-15 10 1 can take off. And that's it, Judge. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, thank you. We'll go to 3 Item 1.1 on the agenda; consider, discuss, and take 4 appropriate action to fill vacant budgeted position in Animal 5 Services Department. Mr. Garcia. 6 MR. GARCIA: Morning, Judge, Commissioners. As 7 stated in the agenda, I am requesting to fill this vacant 8 position. It's budgeted. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What is the position? 10 MR. GARCIA: Kennel tech. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded for 15 approval for filling of that vacant position as requested. 16 Is there any further discussion? 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just -- the vacancy, is that -- 18 MR. GARCIA: Relocation. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Relocation of the person? 20 Okay, good. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any further discussion? 22 There being none, those in favor of the motion, signify by 23 raising your right hand. 24 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 25 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.2; this is 9-14-15 11 1 a public hearing regarding revision of the plat for Lots 2 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of the -- is that Staacke -- 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Staacke. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Staacke Ranch, Plat Record 11-4945, 5 Precinct 3. 6 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 9:09 a.m., and a public hearing was held in open 7 court, as follows:) 8 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Does anybody wish to speak at this 10 public hearing? 11 (No response.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: There being none, we'll go on to 13 Item 1.3. 14 (The public hearing was concluded at 9:09 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 15 reopened.) 16 - - - - - - - - - - 17 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, that requested Item 1.27 is 18 timed for 9:05, and it immediately follows this public 19 hearing. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, we'll go to 1.27; 21 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the 22 Court's final approval regarding the revision of plat for 23 Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch, Plat Record 11-4945, 24 Precinct 3. Mr. Hastings. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. Dr. Jay Wise owns Lot 9-14-15 12 1 17BR; it's 40.02 acres, and Harrison and Karin Buxton own Lot 2 17CR; it's 25.66 acres. The proposed revision of plat is Lot 3 17BR-1, 39.087 acres, and Lot 17CR-1, 26.622 acres. 4 Commissioner Letz has approved using 6.035 of our Subdivision 5 Regulations, the alternate plat process, for this revision of 6 plat. The public hearing was just held, and at this time, 7 we're asking the Commissioners Court for their final approval 8 regarding the revision of plat for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of 9 Staacke Ranch, Plat Record 11-4946, Precinct 3. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second? 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. There's been a motion 15 for approval and a second. I'll take the second from 16 Mr. Baldwin for final approval regarding the revision of plat 17 for Lots 17BR-1 and 17CR-1 of Staacke Ranch, Plat Record, 18 11-4945, Precinct 3. Is there any further discussion? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a quick comment. This is 20 just a very minor revision of lot line between this two-lot 21 subdivision, and they're just changing the lot line between 22 two neighbors. It's agreeable to both parties. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any further discussion? 24 There being none, those in favor of the motion, signify by 25 raising your right hand. 9-14-15 13 1 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 2 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 3 we're back to 1.3; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 4 action for the Court to accept the preliminary revision of 5 plat for Lots 5 and 6, Highlands Ranch Subdivision, and set a 6 public hearing, Volume 5, Page 211, Precinct 1. Mr. Hastings. 7 MR. HASTINGS: Yes. The owners of Lots 5 and 6 of 8 the Highlands Ranch Subdivision would like to combine Lot 5, 9 1.04 acres, and Lot 6, .87 acres, into Lot 5R, for a total of 10 1.91 acres. Commissioner Baldwin has approved the alternate 11 plat process out of our subdivision regulations, and at this 12 time we're asking the Court to accept the preliminary 13 revision of plat for Lots 5 and 6 of the Highlands Ranch 14 Subdivision, Volume 5, Page 233, and set a public hearing for 15 Monday, October 26th, 2015, at 9 a.m., Precinct 1. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 19 accept the preliminary revision of the plat for Lots 5 and 6 20 of the Highlands Ranch Subdivision and set a public 21 hearing -- and what's the date again? 22 MR. HASTINGS: October the 26th, 2015, at 9 a.m. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. And that's -- this is in 24 Volume -- the plat's in Volume 5, Page 233. All right. Is 25 there any further discussion? 9-14-15 14 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: A comment, Judge. Just -- 2 it's one of those things where you have two lots and you're 3 combining them, making bigger instead of smaller, things that 4 we like. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Right. Probably the people want to 6 build something right where the lot lines are, and -- 7 MR. HASTINGS: That's correct. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: -- you can't straddle a lot line. 9 Yeah, okay. All right. Any further discussion? Being none, 10 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 13 we'll go to 1.4; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 14 action for the Court's final approval and release of funds -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's 9:15. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: It is a timed one at 9:15. I 17 better skip it and go to 1.6; consider, discuss, and take 18 appropriate action to rescind Court Order Number 34227 and 19 consider authorization for revised capital expenditures for 20 Environmental Health Department. Commissioner Letz. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: At our last Commissioners Court 22 meeting, we passed a court order to authorize use of some 23 capital funds for Animal Control or Environmental Health 24 Department for some trucks, and I think some cages -- cat 25 cages. In talking with the Auditor, looking at the -- some 9-14-15 15 1 of the legal notices, somehow the Environmental Health 2 Department was not included on the issue of that debt, and 3 therefore, those funds cannot be used for this purpose. So, 4 we need to rescind Court Order 34227. I'll make a motion to 5 do so. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 8 rescind Court Order 34227. Is there any further discussion? 9 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 10 right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, Judge, also on that item, 14 the -- some of the items, certainly the cat cages, and I 15 think that was the main thing, redoing some of the interior 16 kennels are a priority and need to be done. Judge and I met 17 with the Auditor, and I think -- it is my feeling, and I 18 think there's a little bit of excess funds in the fund 19 balance due to closing out this current year's budget. There 20 should be enough funds in the reserve to fund those two 21 projects. I think it was like -- how much was the two, Ray, 22 the cat cages and the kennel work? Was it like 30 -- 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 40,000. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 40,000? 25 MR. GARCIA: Yes, sir. 9-14-15 16 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: $40,000. Those funds are in 2 the reserve. So I think, you know, in a second I'll make a 3 motion to use our reserve funds for those, because I think 4 that it's a health and safety issue. We just need to do 5 this. The other issue is the trucks. Ray has gone down and 6 got a price on the trucks. I don't know if you want to do 7 anything with this or not. The price is 17,142 per truck. 8 His trucks have about 100,000 miles on them. They all three 9 were pretty much purchased at the same time. We need to 10 start rolling them out and redoing those. I don't -- I would 11 not support doing more than one truck at this time. I think 12 we do one possibly this year, one next year, and one the 13 following year, or we can defer them till next year and the 14 following year. It's kind of up to the Court there, but that 15 was part of the original purchase that we approved last 16 Commissioners Court meeting. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Are you still on 1.6? 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Actually, is there another one on 20 here that authorizes -- 1.6, I don't think, authorizes -- 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, it says "consider 22 authorization for revised capital expenditures." 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, okay. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Can I make a point about 9-14-15 17 1 that, Judge? 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Not about that, but about 4 this agenda item, is that throughout history, when we 5 possibly make a mistake or something like that, that court 6 order remains in the system forever, and at times we can come 7 back and stumble around, or a new Court could stumble over 8 it, one thing or another. But the idea of rescinding this 9 order is a very smart thing to do. It cleans it up today, 10 and we don't -- nobody has to deal with that any more. And 11 we hardly ever do this. We hardly ever rescind the old 12 stuff, just let it flow. So, I would recommend that every 13 opportunity we have, if we can, to clean them up. Let's do 14 them as we go along, like he did. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Not cleaning it up leaves two 16 orders in conflict with each other, doesn't it? 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's correct. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, I agree with you. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The question I have for the 20 Auditor, based on -- I mean, we're getting closer to the end 21 of the year. Are you still comfortable with taking that -- 22 the $40,000 out of reserves for -- 23 MS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: For the purpose of the kennel 25 and the cat cages? 9-14-15 18 1 MS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Otherwise, it would go into 3 just building reserves. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Anything that's left over. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: It was felt in that discussion that 8 this was a lot cleaner, a more direct way of going about 9 doing it. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There were some other options, 11 but they were not clean, and the Judge and I did not think 12 they were -- it's not the way we like to do things. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Kind of like a shell game. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I understand. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, the issue in my mind is -- 16 are the trucks, and I don't know if Ray wants to address that 17 a little bit. 18 MR. GARCIA: I would ask the Court to consider that 19 quote there, 'cause I can use that quote twice, that $17,000 20 and some change there per truck. These trucks are $32,000 to 21 $36,000, so I think this would be a -- a very good purchase 22 for the county, for the taxpayers, because for the price of 23 two, some people are paying 32 -- excuse me, $32,000 per 24 vehicle, so we're getting two vehicles for 32-plus. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Why is that 50 percent 9-14-15 19 1 discount -- 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Trade-in. 3 MR. GARCIA: Well, trade-in, and again, I always -- 4 always came in with the lowest bids. Just saying. I've 5 always -- every time I've come up here, I've had $17,000 or 6 lower that we've purchased. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, for the record, you're 8 comparing 32 to 17, but that's 17 plus a trade-in. 9 MR. GARCIA: Yes. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So that's not apples and 11 apples. 12 MR. GARCIA: Well, I mean, we can cut it up the way 13 we want to, but it's 17,000, yes, sir. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And, I mean, and we can also 15 look at doing this with the trucks on our next agenda, see 16 where we are at the final budget meeting of the year. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I think that may be wise. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I do too. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll put it back on the final 20 agenda and see what you have left in your account. We just 21 have one motion at this point. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We still have an 23 outstanding motion to rescind, I believe. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Didn't we vote? 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion on it? 9-14-15 20 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We voted. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, we voted on it? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Now we can go back to Item 1.4; 5 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the 6 Court's final approval and release of funds regarding the 7 privately maintained Kerrwest Ranch Subdivision. 8 Mr. Hastings. This is in Precinct 4. 9 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. The preliminary plat for 10 the Kerrwest Ranch Subdivision was approved by Commissioners 11 Court in March of this year, followed by the Court's approval 12 of the final plat in May. At the time of approving the final 13 plat, the developer deposited a check in the amount of $7,000 14 in lieu of a letter of credit. This amount covered the 15 remaining incomplete improvements, which included the 16 installation of a gate, stop sign, street sign, and 17 establishment of vegetation in the disturbed areas. An 18 inspection of this site conducted by the County Engineer on 19 August 31st, 2015 indicated that all improvements have been 20 completed; therefore, the subdivision is complete. This is a 21 privately maintained road, so therefore, at this time we're 22 asking the Court for their final approval and release of 23 funds back to the developer regarding the privately 24 maintained Kerrwest Ranch Subdivision, Precinct 4. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, Charlie, they put up the 9-14-15 21 1 funds. I'm -- what is -- what's the action by the Court on 2 this? 3 MR. HASTINGS: The action of the Court is to accept 4 their improvements, that they have completed them in 5 compliance with our subdivision regulations. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Release their deposit. 7 MR. HASTINGS: And then we can release the funds 8 that they put up to insure that they would complete them. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I see, got you. Okay, thank 10 you. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Mr. Hastings, I drove out 12 there, and just so I understand, you feel like everything 13 that you needed done to the subdivision that you required to 14 be completed is complete? Is that what I'm understanding, in 15 your opinion? 16 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I move for approval. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded for 20 approval of that item, to accept -- accept their improvements 21 and to release the funds of the Kerrwest Ranch Subdivision, 22 Precinct 4. Mr. Hastings gave me a tour throughout the 23 county, and that was one of the places we went to, probably 24 pretty close to that date you inspected it; is that correct? 25 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 9-14-15 22 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. And it raises an issue in my 2 mind about country lanes, that maybe we need to revisit when 3 we talk about our subdivision regulations. Anyway, it looks 4 like he has completed everything that he was requested to do. 5 Any further discussion? There being none, those in favor, 6 signify by raising your right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Another timed 9 one, 1.5; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 10 award a certificate of appreciation to the American Red 11 Cross, Hill Country Chapter. Commissioner Reeves and Pam 12 Hicks. 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Pam's not here this morning, 14 Your Honor. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'd like to start off, and 17 then I'm sure maybe the Sheriff can say a few words, and 18 Chief Lenard as well. As you know, over the past few weeks, 19 especially out in west Kerr County, but all over the Hill 20 Country, we've had some pretty severe fires. The big one on 21 Highway 83, the Hill Country Chapter of the American Red 22 Cross was on the scene promptly; they set up their canteen, 23 if you will, to provide food, water, whatever was needed for 24 the firefighters that were out there. They also made sure 25 there was a shelter if needed out at the Divide School. The 9-14-15 23 1 firefighters were busy fighting these massive brush fires, 2 and it was just a great feeling to have the Red Cross out 3 there providing this other support for what was needed. A 4 week later out on the Y.O. Ranch, another fire, and they were 5 right there providing the same support; brought food in 6 brought water, made sure everybody's needs were taken care 7 of. And when you live out in the country and you have these 8 fires, everybody comes together. It's been that way since 9 the beginning of time, and it just shows what everybody can 10 do. They've been stretched this year. They were down in 11 Edwards County fighting that massive 17,000-acre fire, and 12 I -- you know, they're the people you don't see, but you need 13 to recognize them. And I have a certificate of appreciation 14 up here that I'd like to present in a minute. I believe 15 Patti and Dave are here from the Red Cross, and we thank you. 16 I don't know if the Sheriff or Chief Lenard want to say 17 anything before we present this to them. 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, one thing I'll say is it 19 has never mattered when or where or what time of night. I 20 know the Y.O. one, it was close to midnight. But whether 21 it's been floods or fires, we have always been able to count 22 on the Red Cross bringing out food and water, 'cause 23 that's -- overheating of these firemen is the biggest concern 24 you have, and keeping, you know, food in them. I mean, 25 they're out there constantly, and the Red Cross has never 9-14-15 24 1 even hesitated to come up with -- I don't know how they get 2 it at midnight, but they come up with the food and sandwiches 3 and water and coffee and anything else that they can provide, 4 and I've never ever been turned down in all the years that 5 I've been around here doing it. So, besides our volunteer 6 firemen that really deserve a big thank you, 'cause those 7 guys leave jobs and everything else to get out there and 8 fight some -- this Y.O. one was some wild conditions. But I 9 can't ever say enough good about the Red Cross and what they 10 do for us locally. I can imagine when they get, you know 11 hurricane stuff and that, but locally it's -- they're just 12 fascinating people to come out and help us any time. Tony? 13 MR. LENARD: Judge, Commissioners, I just mirror 14 what the Sheriff said, and then add to it, the Cypress Creek 15 fire, they jumped right on that. They brought us out food 16 that evening for Comfort, and we had nine volunteer 17 departments at that fire. It wasn't large in size, but it 18 was large in 911 calls, 'cause it was right there on the 19 interstate, and so they brought us out. So, that's three 20 fires in three weeks, they took care of our area 21 firefighters, and it's a blessing to have them, and I just 22 want to say thank you. 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I think John is showing some 24 of the pictures of them involved out there. That was -- most 25 of that was the 83 fire, I believe, wasn't it, John? 9-14-15 25 1 MR. TROLINGER: M.K. fire. 2 MR. LENARD: Yes, sir. 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And it's just fascinating what 4 they do. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, at this time, I'd like 7 to give the members that are here -- it says, "Kerr County, 8 Texas. It is with grateful appreciation that we recognize 9 the American Red Cross for your many hours of outstanding 10 service, dedication, and devotion that is given unselfishly 11 to our community," and signed this date by the members of the 12 Court. And we thank you very much for this. 13 (Applause.) 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Sheriff? Come on up, Tony. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We have a family reunion up 16 here. We spent a lot of time together. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But we don't smell like 18 smoke. Thank you very much. 19 MS. MORIN: Thank you. 20 MR. LENARD: Thank you for all you do. 21 (Photographs taken.) 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: One more. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thanks. 24 MS. MORIN: Call us any time. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. The next item on the 9-14-15 26 1 agenda is 1.7; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action 2 to reappoint Donna Damon and Chris Hughes for a two-year term 3 to the Emergency Services District Number 1, with the new 4 term expiring January 2018. Commissioner Baldwin and Reeves. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is going to be a 6 Commissioner Reeves thing, but I just wanted to say that the 7 reason that both of us are on there is because the Ingram -- 8 or what do you call that thing? The fire department -- 9 ESD #1 covers both of our precincts. Just falls over into me 10 a little bit, so Number 4 there is good enough to include us 11 in these kind of things. But some -- 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, this is -- provides a 13 large amount of funding for the fire department there, and I 14 move for approval of the agenda item. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 17 approval of the agenda item, which is reappointing Donna 18 Damon and Chris Hughes for a two-year term to the Emergency 19 Services District Number 1, with the new term expiring 20 January of 2018. Any further discussion? There being none, 21 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 22 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 23 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Is it 9:30? 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 1.8; consider, discuss, and 9-14-15 27 1 take appropriate action on request from Kerr County Fair 2 Board Association including, but not limited to, the use of 3 Flat Rock Park, River Star Arts and Event Center, and closure 4 of Riverside Drive for the Kerr County Fair. Commissioner 5 Reeves. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. Ms. Rodgers from the 7 fair is here. Same as we approved last year; they need Flat 8 Rock Park for overflow parking and staging of the livestock 9 animals that are coming in, closure of Riverside Drive during 10 the fair from the point that it meets with the American 11 Legion down to our exit gate in the southeast corner. Once 12 again, I believe, Ms. Rodgers, you desire to use the River 13 Star Arts and Events Park, the pavilion, for a dance like you 14 did last year? 15 MS. RODGERS: Yes, sir. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And then also I believe one 17 of your -- your chili cook-off this year in the park -- 18 MS. RODGERS: Yes, sir. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- area. I think this is an 20 excellent utilization of all of the facilities. We 21 compliment the fair for their hard work, and I move for 22 approval. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 25 approval of the fair association for the use of the various 9-14-15 28 1 facilities of the county as stated in Item 1.8. Any further 2 discussion? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What are the dates? 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: What are the dates of the -- 5 MS. RODGERS: 24th, 25th, and 26th. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Of what month? 7 MS. RODGERS: October. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: October. And the closure of 9 the road should include those dates, October 24th through 10 26th. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We might want to ask 13 Ms. Rodgers if she has comments or if she wants to beg us for 14 anything, or -- 15 MS. RODGERS: I'm good, thank you. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: You're good? Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: When she gets approved, she'll 18 be quiet. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Any -- any further discussion? 20 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 21 right hand. 22 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 23 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 24 MS. RODGERS: Thank you. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Ms. Rodgers. 9-14-15 29 1 1.9; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to accept 2 the donation of a recycling trailer from the City of 3 Kerrville and allow the County Judge to sign same. 4 Mr. Reeves? 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, sir. I mentioned this 6 during the liaison reports at our last meeting. The City of 7 Kerrville has had a recycling center -- or recycling trailer, 8 rather, that was parked originally at the United Methodist 9 Church in Hunt. Due to their restructuring of the recycling 10 process, they moved the trailer back. It was just sitting 11 there. Councilman Stephen Fine and I had lunch one day. We 12 spent most of lunch just joking about our parents and how we 13 missed them, but it came down what -- what could be done -- 14 we were talking about recycling. He looked into it, got back 15 with me. Their trailer, which I provided a photograph to 16 everybody, was not being used. The City of Kerrville voted a 17 couple weeks ago to transfer it over. There's one other hoop 18 that I'm sure Ms. Stebbins and I can get through, and that's 19 the Alamo Area Council of Governments had furnished the 20 trailer to the City of Kerrville. We've got to get their 21 approval. But I'm taking it one step at a time. There's an 22 agreement that County Attorney has looked over, and I believe 23 is in agreement with. The -- once we get their acceptance, 24 then we can work out the logistics of where we can have it 25 and when we can have it there, but I'd like to take it one 9-14-15 30 1 step at a time. So, therefore, I'd like to make a motion to 2 accept the donation of the recycling trailer, and authorize 3 the County Judge to sign the agreement, as -- in your 4 exhibits. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, it's accept the donation, 6 and contingent on -- 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: AACOG's approval. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, AACOG. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just as it's stated in the 10 agreement. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the 14 County accept the recycling trailer donation from the City of 15 Kerrville, subject to and contingent upon approval of AACOG. 16 Is there any further discussion? 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: A question of Commissioner 18 4. I'm assuming that we'll be able to pass it around to -- 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Absolutely. I feel -- you 20 know, in a perfect world, we would have four of them, but 21 we'll take it one step at a time. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I look -- one week it could 24 be in 1, one week in 2, one week in 3, one week in 4, move it 25 around. And I'm going to take the lead and work with either 9-14-15 31 1 the City or Scrap Solutions, depending on what side of the 2 county it is. Mr. Bollier and I went and looked at the 3 trailer. It's not so massive that our vehicles that we have 4 can't pull it, pick it up. Yes, it'll take a little of our 5 manpower time to -- for instance, to drive out to Hunt or to 6 Center Point to pick it up, but it's a service we're 7 providing the community. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: How often did they move it or 9 empty it at Hunt? Do you know? 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: As far as the emptying, I 11 understood it varied. It was only there at -- it was pretty 12 much at Hunt full-time. It varied. They watched the loads. 13 You know, some weeks would be more recycling. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, the City was doing it at 15 that time? 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's correct. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, got you. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, when it comes time for 19 Precinct 1 to have it, the Turtle Creek area, I think, would 20 be a good place. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Be a great area. And I look 22 at, in the west, out around Hunt. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Center Point. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Two and three might may have 25 their own areas they'd like it. 9-14-15 32 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Have you talked with -- or 2 could you talk with -- what are they called, the Scrap -- 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Scrap Solutions. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- Scrap Solutions about if we 5 interlocal with them and they move the trailer around? 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I could visit with them on 7 that. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just would -- you know, it's 9 not -- it's one of those things, it's not a lot for 10 Maintenance, but it's more for Maintenance to do it, and by 11 the time you really -- I think it'd take half a day for 12 somebody. And -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Plus somebody needs to know 14 when it's full, when it's not full. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That's why I'd like to go 16 ahead and accept the trailer; then we can work out the 17 logistics. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sure. I'd be willing fund it, 19 you know, give them a little bit of money if we had to, to 20 have them -- 21 JUDGE POLLARD: It's going to grow. It will -- the 22 demand on moving it around and the services relating to it is 23 going to grow, and it's going to be something that will be an 24 additional burden on Maintenance if we don't work out 25 something like that. 9-14-15 33 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It can probably be through an 2 interlocal. Just thinking, it could almost come out of the 3 budget of the Environmental Health Department, 'cause it's a 4 solid waste issue that we're kind of using; it would be 5 involved with it -- doing it. But I'd just say if we do an 6 interlocal, we can put it in that budget or the Maintenance 7 budget, either one. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The good thing about that is 9 if it's in a place a weekend per month or something like 10 that, then people can plan on it and use it. I think it 11 would be very effective. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Be great. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. That's nice that the 14 City donated that to us. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's true. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Very nice. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So let's compliment the City 18 on doing that, right. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a plan to get more 20 trailers later on? I can see this maybe in the future. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: To be determined. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yeah. Let's take it one step 23 at a time. Let's accept the donation of the trailer and move 24 forward with it. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But the company, this 9-14-15 34 1 solution -- 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Scrap Solutions. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- Scrap Solutions company, 4 I've been out there twice, and talked to them on the phone 5 several times because of constituents calling and looking for 6 the service. I think they're just fantastic. I mean, that's 7 a great -- I pulled in there, and the little guy ran out 8 there and unloaded everything for me. You know, wasn't 9 worried about trash blowing, where, like, the city's people 10 are always talking about at the city. And it was just great, 11 and they were glad to see me. Of course, he didn't know who 12 I was, but they were real happy to see me. (Laughter.) 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's the reason. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there somebody here that doesn't 15 know you, Buster? 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, this guy was awful 17 young. But, anyway, they're a great company, and they're 18 really -- I mean, they're an addition to this community. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, what it -- bottom line is 20 we may have three things. Scrap Solutions is a place, the 21 City where they're doing it right now, and the trailer. So 22 that's -- 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, absolutely. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: These are good. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is. We're getting there. 9-14-15 35 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Moving in the right direction. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. The motion is 3 outstanding that I previously stated. If there's no further 4 discussion, those in favor of the motion, signify by raising 5 your right hand. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.10; 8 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action regarding 9 agreement between Bandera Electric Cooperative and Kerr 10 County. In your -- under Item 1.10 in your agenda, 11 Mr. Hetherington, who is the new chief officer, or whatever 12 his title is, of Bandera Electric Co-op came to see me, and 13 he recounted that they had a -- a contract with Kerr County 14 to provide services as part of their certificated area that 15 is in Kerr County. That was dated in 1990 and had a term of 16 10 years. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's about due. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: And he kind of reviewed the records 19 and found that it expired in 2000 -- you know, in 2000. And 20 here we are 15 years later, and I guess we had an implied 21 extension of that contract, because we've been working under 22 it for another 15 years. But, anyway, he brought along 23 another contract, and I asked that it be sent to the County 24 Attorney's office. And you approved it? 25 MS. STEBBINS: Yes, sir. 9-14-15 36 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. And he said it was the 2 same provisions that was in the old contract. And he's 3 asking for authority for the -- for me to sign that contract, 4 and another period of time. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. And moved and seconded 8 that the County Judge be authorized to execute the agreement 9 with Bandera Electric Co-op. Any further discussion? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, they -- Bandera 11 Electric Company comes into my precinct in several places, 12 and through the years I have phoned them and asked them to do 13 certain things, and they didn't bring up a contract at all; 14 they just came and did the job. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: That's what I mean about the 16 implied extension of the contract. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I know. I'm just glad we 18 have good neighbors like that, is my point. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: By the way, he told me that he 20 moved down from -- I believe it was Iowa. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, get a rope. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: But it's his -- his -- I think his 23 grandparents or great-grandparents had a ranch in Kerr 24 County. Their name was Tharp, I believe, T-h-a-r-p, and he 25 had never been down here. Of course, they sold the ranch or 9-14-15 37 1 whatever, so I took him down to the County Clerk's office, 2 and he was going to go through the records, try to locate his 3 great-grandparents' old ranch down here. And he does have a 4 -- a fourth cousin here by the same name, Steve Hetherington, 5 that's sort of left over from back in those days. All right. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: A question on the contract. 7 Why do they need a contract with the county to have services 8 in the county? 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So they have the right to 10 access for the utility poles and things. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Oh, it's like an easement 12 agreement. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right, yeah. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I didn't see how we were part 15 of that picture. That makes sense, in the county 16 right-of-way. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, that's over. We voted on 18 that one, didn't we? 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right -- no, we didn't vote. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, didn't vote. Those in 21 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 22 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0. I thought we did it, but it 24 won't hurt to do it again. All right. Is it 9: -- 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Couple minutes early. 9-14-15 38 1 JUDGE POLLARD: 1.12; consider, discuss, and take 2 appropriate action to approve memorandum of understanding 3 between Hill Country Council on Alcohol and Drug Abuse, Inc., 4 and the Kerr County Court. The M.O.U. is in your agenda 5 package, and it speaks for itself. Any questions about it? 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Just my questions I ask 8 every year. I see that it says Kerr County -- the issues 9 that they will provide Kerr County, and they will refer adult 10 clients -- is Mrs. Stevens in the room? I guess I wore her 11 out a couple of years ago. They'll refer adult clients for 12 16-week outpatient treatment programs. I don't know what 13 that means. I still don't know what that means. They 14 obviously do not treat alcohol and drugs at Kerrville State 15 Hospital any more. I just don't know what they do, but 16 they're not treating people. 17 MS. STEBBINS: Oftentimes it's part of the terms of 18 probation. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Was that the County 20 Attorney? 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 22 MS. STEBBINS: Yes, sir. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You know her. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I've met her before. 25 MS. STEBBINS: Heather. (Laughter.) 9-14-15 39 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let's see, mother of Story. 2 MS. STEBBINS: That's right. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What is a 16-week outpatient 4 treatment program? Can you handle that one? 5 MS. STEBBINS: I think so. It's part of the terms 6 of probation. The Adult Probation Department will 7 recommend -- make recommendations for defendants. If they 8 need to go to that program, they'll recommend it, and -- 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is it like -- 10 MS. STEBBINS: -- they'll be required to go. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is it like an A.A. meeting, 12 or can they go to La Hacienda? Because there's no treatment 13 facility -- 14 MS. STEBBINS: No. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We don't have a treatment 16 facility. 17 MS. STEBBINS: No, sir, I don't think it's an 18 inpatient treatment facility. I think that they go to 19 courses, and I think they're pretty regular, so that they 20 make a commitment to -- 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do they come to your 22 place -- Adult Probation? Is that where they go? 23 MS. STEBBINS: No, sir, I don't think that they go 24 to Adult Probation. I could be wrong about that. But Hill 25 Country Council on Drug and Alcohol Abuse has an office here, 9-14-15 40 1 so they probably go there. I may be wrong about that. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, Judge. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further questions? 4 Is there a motion outstanding on that one? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, I don't think so. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the -- 10 that I be authorized to sign this contract on behalf of the 11 County with Hill Country Council on Alcohol and Drug Abuse, 12 pursuant to that particular item on the agenda. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sign the memorandum of 14 understanding. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Pardon? 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sign the memorandum of 17 understanding. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, uh-huh. All right. Any 19 further discussion? There being none, those in favor, 20 signify by raising your right hand. 21 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Now you can go to 1.11. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 1.11 is consider, 25 discuss, and take appropriate action regarding resolution by 9-14-15 41 1 Kerr County Appraisal District pertaining to sale of existing 2 building, purchase of land, and construction of new building. 3 Mr. Lewis. 4 MR. LEWIS: Good morning, Judge. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: How are you doing? 6 MR. LEWIS: Commissioners. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Morning. 8 MR. LEWIS: Thank you for the opportunity to 9 address the Court. Appreciate that very much. The slide 10 will be coming up here. The Appraisal District Board of 11 Directors has decided the safety and health issues in our 12 current building have now reached a point where we need to 13 take action. The building itself is beyond economical 14 repair, if we take the value of the building alone and try to 15 do a repair, so we decided we need to do a new thing. We 16 spent a long time looking for -- a couple of years, for other 17 places, and we finally decided we needed to build something 18 that was centrally located where everybody in the county 19 lived. We needed to have something safe to get in and out 20 of. Egress and ingress of that particular building right now 21 is not safe, whether you're headed east or west on Junction 22 Highway. It's really a risk to get in and out of. 23 Further, to do some of the things that we need to 24 do to the parking lot, the radio antenna is owned by a 25 corporation -- not really a corporation; it's owned by a 9-14-15 42 1 foundation. If we did something to the tower or the parking 2 lot, the grounding wires that are there, as well as they 3 service the electrical thread, they also are related to the 4 force of the transmission, so if we try to tear up the 5 parking lot, repave it, move things around, then we'd have to 6 involve the F.C.C. and a bunch of other things, probably shut 7 down the station. Not a good option. So, we decided we 8 would not do that. So, we went to look at whatever we had to 9 do to get A.D.A. compliance, so we want to do a new building. 10 This is a process that is closely monitored by the 11 Comptroller. They watch the Board of Directors; we are their 12 pathway to this. So, I will not bore you with each slide. 13 We'll go through them. Most of them are self-explanatory. I 14 will get to the nuts and bolts of what we have to do here 15 rather quickly. At any time you have a question, please 16 address us and ask us; we'll do our best to answer it. Okay, 17 next slide. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do you -- Chuck, do you have 19 to make it A.D.A. compliant retroactive? 20 MR. LEWIS: A.D.A. compliance would be when you do 21 a certain amount of renovations. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's what I thought. 23 MR. LEWIS: Then it kicks in and it's full-bore. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So -- but if you didn't do 25 anything, you wouldn't have to do the A.D.A.? 9-14-15 43 1 MR. LEWIS: No, it's -- you're grandfathered if you 2 don't do anything, right, or less than a certain amount. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Got you. Thank you. 4 MR. LEWIS: Mm-hmm. Okay. We had the building 5 inspected, and so we found a lot of things we already knew, 6 but we had an independent inspector do this for us. And it's 7 -- like I say, I won't address those unless I need to. Next 8 slide. A.D.A. and senior access issues, pretty 9 self-explanatory. There's one bathroom for the whole 10 building. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wow. 12 MR. LEWIS: So, we are a politically correct 13 gender-neutral -- I don't know. (Laughter.) The privacy and 14 useful space, there's a radio station and it's got glass 15 walls. It's got outside heating and air conditioning vents. 16 It's really -- there is no privacy. If you want to come in 17 and talk to your appraiser about your situation, you're going 18 to share it with the rest of the county, probably, if they're 19 in there. The executive sessions of the board, no, it's not 20 private, and neither are the Appraisal Review Board hearings, 21 which should be private. The health and safety is a big -- 22 big problem. We put a new roof on it, but we feel there 23 might be some mold growing underneath the new roof above the 24 old roof, which you can't get to. I have some pictures on 25 the next one. That's just the entranceway. That's the 9-14-15 44 1 reception area. If you got to sit down and fill out a piece 2 of paperwork, that's it; there's two chairs. We don't have 3 any more room than that, and there's just no place to put 4 them. 5 Next one shows you the hallway to the board room 6 and public bathrooms and to the A.R.B. rooms. All one room, 7 one hallway, one bath, and that's it. Multiple appraisers in 8 one office, so that's what they -- useful space. Those bags 9 of shredded paper are not there for picture purposes, not to 10 dress this up. That's the way it sits until we're able to 11 make the delivery where it's picked up. Next slide. Next 12 slide, please. Okay. Yeah, that's, again, space and 13 storage; it's getting pretty small. The next space -- next 14 slide, that's how we keep our records. Okay, next one. This 15 is our electrical room. The big black object there is the 16 server. That server is both used by the county 17 Assessor/Collector, as well as all the appraisers, so that 18 has to have a better home than what we have for it. The 19 board's done due diligence, we feel. Looking around, what we 20 had to do, we looked at our buildings. We have looked at all 21 the options available to us. We found buildings that were 22 not -- that were the same age, needed the same repairs, or 23 they didn't have enough parking. We need 30 parking spaces; 24 that's a minimum. 25 We got all kinds of -- other appraisal districts 9-14-15 45 1 have built these things. We've done these parking selection 2 criteria. Fiduciary responsibility of the board to the 3 taxpayers and the taxing entities. We want to spend this 4 wisely, and we're going to do that. And if you know me, we 5 will spend wisely. We also want to plan this thing for the 6 out years, at least have a 20-year future where we might have 7 to have two more employees in that time frame. Maybe not; 8 maybe we will, but we should plan to have two more employees 9 20-plus years out. We found some -- we found a nice piece of 10 property here that's flat. It's -- do not let the size 11 detract from our little presentation. It's 1.39 acres, and 12 another document has it as 1.41 acres, plus or minus. We 13 have put earnest money on this, to purchase this. The land 14 -- the seller understands that we are doing a feasibility 15 study. Next slide. And these things will have to be 16 acceptable all the way through, 100 percent. We have 17 planning and zoning scheduled with the City on the 1st, again 18 on the 16th, and then -- and then they're voting on it, but 19 we've been told by the City that their City Council already 20 wants to approve it already, so we're doing it this way. We 21 have to have cost permits, fees; all of these things have 22 been... 23 Now, the next one is where we're going to get down 24 to it. We narrowed it down to three locations. The best was 25 number one, of course, and I'll get to that last. The second 9-14-15 46 1 one, we wanted to trade land. We got excited when the County 2 wanted to trade the recycle point with us. Dollar for 3 dollar, the value's weighted the same by the same appraisers 4 that did that, so -- and that sounded like a good idea until 5 we did our arithmetic. Arithmetic is we would trade and we 6 had nothing, no building, so we had to have something. We 7 have some money saved up, and we can purchase the land on 173 8 at an outstanding price. The seller has agreed with this. 9 We had another offer of some land, much more than we wanted, 10 but the best we could get out on the loop, and -- and so we 11 decided to go with this one here and try our best to make 12 that work. The rest of those things, we can sell our current 13 building based on the appraised value. We feel that it'll 14 probably go for more from what we've heard, but we don't 15 know. And then the cost analysis, that's the next page. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, what you show here is 17 appraised? The 325,000 is the appraised value? 18 MR. LEWIS: That's the appraised value of the 19 building and site -- and lot. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And you think you can get more 21 than that? 22 MR. LEWIS: We think so, because of its location 23 and what other people want it for. We don't know that, but 24 we... The cost analysis is this. We have to break this down 25 by the taxing entities, the people, the percentages. You 9-14-15 47 1 wouldn't be writing a check. We would put this into the 2 budget when we send it to you, and when the budget's approved 3 is how these things get paid. The only figure that is solid 4 at this point -- the only figure is the $115,000 for purchase 5 of the land. I have given the Court today the resolution 6 from the Board of Directors to -- requesting your approval on 7 that issue, and your resolution will have to come back to us, 8 according to the Comptroller, in a 30-day time frame. Don't 9 confuse this one with when we send budgets. When we send 10 budgets, there's also a time frame, and no response means an 11 assent to the budget. And this, no response is a no. You 12 have to have three-fourths of the taxing entities approve 13 this for us to go forward. If it does not, then we'll start 14 all over. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And how many taxing entities 16 are there? 17 MR. LEWIS: There are 11 taxing entities. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Three-fourths by vote or by 19 number? 20 MR. LEWIS: Three-fourths by resolution. They have 21 to give us a resolution. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, ESD-1 has the same vote as 23 City of Kerrville? 24 MR. LEWIS: It -- not ESD's. They are -- let's see 25 what you're saying. The emergency services district -- 9-14-15 48 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, let's say Divide School 2 District has the same as K.I.S.D.? 3 MR. LEWIS: Well, no, they're not -- they don't 4 really set the tax rates. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm talking about the vote 6 on -- the voting to approve the -- 7 MR. LEWIS: Oh, no, no, no. They don't, no, no, 8 no. Just 11 taxing entities. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is it weighted? That's what 10 he's asking. 11 MR. LEWIS: No, it's not weighted. One vote is one 12 vote. City of Kerrville gets one vote; Commissioners Court 13 gets one vote. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 15 MR. LEWIS: Comfort I.S.D. gets one vote. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Got you. Chuck, on your cost 17 analysis, Kerr County, $873. What is that? 18 MR. LEWIS: That would be a monthly amount. If 19 this went like it was right now, this is the best we could 20 come up with as to what the overall cost would be. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But I'm asking -- amount per 22 month? 23 MR. LEWIS: Per month. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Per month, okay. 25 MR. LEWIS: Per month. We have to make monthly -- 9-14-15 49 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So we need -- 2 MR. LEWIS: -- mortgage payments, like -- 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We put that into the cost 4 analysis. This is payment per month? 5 MR. LEWIS: Per month. Well, total bottom line, 6 total monthly loan payment. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, I got you. 8 MR. LEWIS: Yes, sir. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I didn't look at the bottom 10 line. Okay. 11 MR. LEWIS: Right. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, it'll cost the County for 13 30 years, 800-something dollars a month? 14 MR. LEWIS: Yes, sir. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Assuming 5 percent. 16 MR. LEWIS: Assuming -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That seems like a high 18 percentage. 19 MR. LEWIS: Well, we -- we didn't know how else to 20 wrap that up and not be overly conservative, nor overly 21 extravagant. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, what are we committing to? 23 MR. LEWIS: You're not committing to anything, 24 except allowing us to purchase this property. When we get 25 the hard figures after a feasibility study, the cost of the 9-14-15 50 1 building and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, we will then 2 come back. We have to do this again. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: For another resolution? 4 MR. LEWIS: Another resolution. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is kind of like the 6 Sheriff's deal; this is kind of like authorization, but not 7 appropriations. 8 MR. LEWIS: That's exactly it, yeah. You -- it's 9 like -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: All we're doing is letting you 11 authorize -- we're authorizing you to go do something, but 12 then when you come back with some number, if we -- if you 13 didn't get the approval, what would you do? 14 MR. LEWIS: If we didn't get approval, then the 15 sale would fall through. In other words, we would make this 16 simple. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 18 MR. LEWIS: Just a simple -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If they get the -- if they get 20 three-quarters of the entities, -- 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- they will buy the land. We 23 are committing for our proportionate -- 24 MR. LEWIS: Exactly. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- payment for the land, but 9-14-15 51 1 not for the building. And if they -- if the building then is 2 not approved, y'all own a piece of land. 3 MR. LEWIS: We own a piece of land, and then we 4 have to... 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 7 MR. LEWIS: So the 11 entities would own the land. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is only, then, getting 9 down to the dollars. 10 MR. LEWIS: Right. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: This is only obligating us for 12 purchase of $115,000 worth of property. 13 MR. LEWIS: And we have that in our budget already. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They have the $115,000. 15 MR. LEWIS: We have -- we've got that money in our 16 budget. As you see back on that page of cash-on-hand for 17 purchase, we have 250. 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: State law says the Appraisal 19 District, if I understand it right, and Comptroller -- the 20 Appraisal District Board of Directors cannot purchase this 21 land unless -- 22 MR. LEWIS: That's right. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- the major taxing 24 entities -- which there's 11 of them; if three-fourths of 25 them -- 9-14-15 52 1 MR. LEWIS: That's correct. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- approve that, they can go 3 out and buy that land. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's all this resolution 5 says. 6 MR. LEWIS: That's all this resolution says. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So it doesn't obligate us for 8 anything. 9 MR. LEWIS: No, you're not obligated. You're just 10 allowing us to -- 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We're allowing them to go buy a 12 piece of land. 13 MR. LEWIS: -- buy a piece of land. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: If it doesn't work, you sell 15 that. 16 MR. LEWIS: That's correct, sir. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I move to approve the 20 resolution as presented. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded that 23 the County approve Kerr Central Appraisal District's proposal 24 regarding the purchase, I guess, or authorization for 25 purchase of the land. 9-14-15 53 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: As spelled out in the 2 resolution, and authorize all members to sign. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Right. All right. It's been moved 4 and seconded to that effect. Those in favor, signify by 5 raising your -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question. Question first. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, go ahead. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Should the resolution include 9 the amount of 115,000? 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. 11 MR. LEWIS: You can put it in there if you feel 12 it's appropriate. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it would be appropriate 14 to add that. 15 MR. LEWIS: That's what the contract -- the earnest 16 money, the contract is on that amount, so I've seen that. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Where would you put that in? 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just add a sentence, "with 19 the purchase price of $115,000 plus appropriate closing 20 costs." 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do we have the original 23 document? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He does. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Right here. But we'd have to amend 9-14-15 54 1 it. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: She can amend it. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. You can add that 4 sentence, the italicized portion, correct? Okay. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: So, are you all going to amend 6 that, or are we going to? 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Jody can amend it real quick. 8 She typed it. 9 MS. GRINSTEAD: Yeah. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So you have that on your 11 computer? 12 MS. GRINSTEAD: Yeah, I typed it before court. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And we can sign it and he 14 can take it with him. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Save our 30 cents for a 17 stamp. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: 44. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 44? 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, there you go. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any further discussion on 22 it? As amended, then, it's going to be with that language, 23 that the hundred -- regarding the $115,000 purchase -- 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And closing costs. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: And closing costs. All right. As 9-14-15 55 1 amended, then, those in favor of the motion, signify by 2 raising your right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 5 MR. LEWIS: Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. We'll have it in 7 just a minute if you want to wait. 8 MR. LEWIS: I'll come around. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: We can take a recess. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, 10-minute recess. 11 (Recess taken from 10:02 a.m. to 10:15 a.m.) 12 - - - - - - - - - - 13 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, it's time to resume. 14 We'll go to Item 1.13; public hearing on proposed Kerr County 15 2015 tax rate. Ms. Bolin. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Diane? 17 MS. BOLIN: Sorry. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We're ready. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: There's a -- there is a public 20 hearing on it, on the tax rate, Item 1.13. Do you have 21 anything you want to say? 22 MS. BOLIN: No. 23 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10:15 a.m., and a public hearing was held in 24 open court, as follows:) 25 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 9-14-15 56 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Is there anybody that wishes 2 to speak on this matter? 3 MS. BOLIN: Do you wish to speak? 4 MR. CORMACK: I didn't understand. 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: On the tax rate. 6 MR. CORMACK: I'd like to speak. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You're up. 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Go ahead and stand up, say 9 what you have. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: May want to get him a stool. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: You're Bobby Cormack; is that 12 correct? 13 MR. CORMACK: Yes, sir. And I'm a little bit 14 hearing-impaired. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: So am I, so we're going to have a 16 hard time. 17 MR. CORMACK: Even with my hearing aids. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Probably everybody else up here is 19 too, so -- but except Bob. Okay. Go ahead, sir. You say 20 your address is 170 Coker Road -- 21 MR. CORMACK: Yes, sir. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: -- in Kerrville. Yes, sir. Go 23 ahead. 24 MR. CORMACK: That's the Upper Turtle Creek area. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, sir. 9-14-15 57 1 MR. CORMACK: Buster's real familiar with that. I 2 have some comments with reference to this tax, especially the 3 frozen tax. It appears to be a red herring; there's no such 4 thing. I -- we recently had some neighbors move in, bought 5 property adjoining us, and my taxes went sky-high quick, as 6 he paid an exorbitant amount of money for this adjoining 7 property down along the creek where the pecan groves are, and 8 the dirt that used to be up on my rock pile that's down 9 supporting his pecan trees. So, I'm curious why I'm being 10 penalized, and it appears that I may be one of the very few 11 in the county being penalized because someone moved in and 12 paid a goofy price for adjoining property. It don't make 13 sense to me. I have a retirement rock pile. I'm on a fixed 14 income like a lot of old folks in Kerr County, and this 15 fellow apparently is in a little better shape than I am, but 16 it don't make sense to me that the property is actually worth 17 a fair amount of money compared to my retirement home. Why 18 I'm taxed to -- it's goofy. It's just absolutely insane. 19 And I'm wondering if the tax people ever come look at the 20 property that they assess taxes against to see, compare it 21 apples to oranges here. I've got a rock pile that barely 22 supports cedar. This guy has the level -- low ground by the 23 creek that supports pecan trees and grass and so forth. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Mr. Cormack, maybe I can cut this 25 short a little bit. It's a customary way to establish values 9-14-15 58 1 on properties to take what they call comparable sales, and 2 especially a tract next door would be considered a -- 3 something, a comparable sale. Of course, there would be 4 adjustments made. The appraisers make adjustments for the 5 fact that your dirt's down there on his land. Yours is a 6 rock pile; I understand all that. But your -- your comments 7 are not directed to what our public hearing is about. Our 8 public hearing is about a tax rate that this county is 9 proposing. Your question needs to be directed to the 10 Appraisal District, okay? 11 MR. CORMACK: Yes, sir. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Not here at this time. This is not 13 the proper forum for that. If you want to complain about how 14 they establish values on your land, and that sounds like what 15 you're talking about, you need to talk to the Appraisal 16 District. 17 MR. CORMACK: Yes, sir. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay? 19 MR. CORMACK: Yes, sir. I've done that, and I 20 essentially got stonewalled. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: I see. 22 MR. CORMACK: So that's why I'm -- this is just 23 voicing my displeasure here. I thought this might -- might 24 be of some help. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, I appreciate your thoughts. 9-14-15 59 1 MR. CORMACK: I appreciate your time. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: I appreciate your thoughts. Thank 3 you very much. 4 MR. CORMACK: Thank you. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Uh-huh. Anybody else? Yes, sir -- 6 ma'am? 7 MRS. GANZE: Oh, sorry. I have short hair. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: That's all right. Your name and 9 address, please? 10 MRS. GANZE: Paige Ganze, 908 Lytle Street. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Uh-huh. 12 MRS. GANZE: I'm really not sure the proper way to 13 go about this, but I just want to note my opposition of the 14 proposed tax rate increase for the county. In reading the 15 newspaper over the last many months -- several months, I've 16 -- I have not -- personally not been in agreement with some 17 of the things that the County is spending money on. For 18 example, I personally didn't see why we need an indoor Little 19 League facility. To me, that's something that -- that money 20 is something that could be better spent somewhere else in the 21 county, and would probably hopefully help not -- you know, 22 the tax increase. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's a city -- that's the 24 city's project; that's not a county project. The Little 25 League fields you're talking about, that's a city project, 9-14-15 60 1 not a county project. 2 MRS. GANZE: Okay. Well, I know there have been 3 other things that I've read in the paper too, and I just 4 think that -- I think the public should be more aware, and in 5 advance of the way that the money is being spent to alleviate 6 some of these tax increases. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think we've had -- how many 8 public hearings? -- three public hearings, two public 9 hearings when we go through the budget. 10 MRS. GANZE: Mm-hmm. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We've had, oh, probably about 12 four public hearings where we go through line item by line 13 item by line item. 14 MRS. GANZE: Mm-hmm. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So I think that was -- those 16 were the public hearings where you could have best had the 17 input. 18 MRS. GANZE: I've been over on the east coast from 19 the beginning of May to -- 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 21 MRS. GANZE: -- end of August, so I wasn't here. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 23 MRS. GANZE: And so -- 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You're in my precinct; I'll be 25 glad to come by and visit about some of the budgets with you, 9-14-15 61 1 just to go over it with you. 2 MRS. GANZE: Okay. All right, thank you. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Uh-huh. Anybody else? 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I would just add one 5 thing. And the budget doesn't get approved until the end of 6 this month also, so there's still time for Commissioner Letz 7 to talk to you and get your input. 8 MRS. GANZE: Right, and that's why I wanted to come 9 today before it was approved, and voice my... 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, thank you. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree with one thing you've said. 12 MRS. GANZE: What's that? 13 JUDGE POLLARD: You said the public needs to be 14 more aware of what's going on and participate more. 15 MRS. GANZE: Mm-hmm. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: We'd like that. You know, we don't 17 see much. When we have our workshops and all these public 18 hearings and stuff, nobody shows up -- 19 MRS. GANZE: Yeah. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: -- except us and our staff. 21 MR. GANZE: Well, this is the first time we've been 22 to one of these, and we just found out about it yesterday. 23 And, you know -- 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Come forward and give us your name 25 and address, sir. 9-14-15 62 1 MR. GANZE: I'm sorry. Charles Ganze, 908 Lytle 2 Street. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Spell that last name. 4 MR. GANZE: G-a-n-z-e. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 6 MR. GANZE: And, anyways, the only way we found out 7 about this is from her reading the newspaper. So, somebody 8 -- the City made a decision on my behalf about this new 9 garbage thing that we -- we got -- dealt with. Well, they 10 didn't pick up my garbage last week, so she had to go to the 11 -- the City Hall this morning and get a voucher for us to be 12 able to take our garbage to the dump. So, then she goes to 13 City Hall this morning to get the voucher; she asked where 14 this meeting was. The people at City Hall didn't even know 15 about this meeting, you know? 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, that's another subject. 17 That's not -- (Laughter.) But that's a city -- that's a city 18 issue here. But it's -- but you're to be commended for 19 coming forward, even though it may not be the right forum. 20 MRS. GANZE: Right. Well, and as citizens of the 21 county, not knowing all the ins and outs of the roads, we've 22 got to start somewhere. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sure. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right there. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Appreciate it. 9-14-15 63 1 MRS. GANZE: Okay, thank you. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll stop by. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, ma'am? Stand up and give your 4 name and address, please. 5 MRS. CORMACK: Thank you for letting me speak. My 6 name is Kathleen Cormack. And a lot of this is ignorance and 7 apathy on the part of all of us residents of the county for 8 not participating and being aware of more of what is actually 9 going on. It's easy for us to come and gripe to you guys, 10 you know, after some of these things have been said and done. 11 But let me just say as far as the advertisement for this, it 12 was on Saturday, and it started on the first page -- on the 13 front page about that the County was holding a final tax rate 14 hearing today. Okay, it was Saturday. But then it wasn't 15 until -- and then today, you get the newspaper, and for 16 public meetings on 2A, it just has the Kerr County 17 Commissioners are at 9 a.m. at the courthouse. I think we 18 should have more newspaper articles. I really think that -- 19 and I'm probably -- there's probably not a great majority of 20 people that read the newspaper. We do. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: I'll bet the newspapers are sorry 22 to hear that. 23 MRS. CORMACK: There needs to be some other forums 24 out there to get the residents of the county to know that 25 these particular proceedings are going on. And -- and not 9-14-15 64 1 just the newspaper; maybe radio or something like that. You 2 need -- just need to get people more involved. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Public notice. We're 4 required to do a certain amount of public notice on these 5 things, and how many is that? And did we do them? 6 MS. BOLIN: We did do them. They were in the end 7 of -- the first part of August newspaper. That's all that 8 we're required to do right now, because the Legislature 9 changed because of the cost that it costs us to do 10 quarter-page ads. It was costing us almost $5,000 a year to 11 do quarter-page ads, so the Legislature met in 2013 and 12 changed what we have to do, what we have to publish. But it 13 was in there. It's on the front page of the Kerr County 14 website. We've put it everywhere that we can put it. 15 MRS. CORMACK: Okay, the website. That's -- 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And your concern, though, is a 17 concern I have, because people -- more people don't read the 18 newspaper. Trying to figure out how to communicate with the 19 public is a challenge, how to get people informed. At a 20 conference I was at, Bob was at as well, you know, Twitter, 21 Facebook is really being pushed as a way to do it. I've 22 never used Twitter. You know, I don't know if y'all do or 23 not. But, see, I'm not sure that a lot of our community -- 24 that's a good way to communicate either, so it's a constant 25 challenge for us to get the community and citizens involved. 9-14-15 65 1 And we hear what you're saying. It's just hard to know how 2 to do it. 3 MRS. CORMACK: Anyway, well, thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We need somebody to stand on 5 the corner and say, "Hear ye, Hear ye," I guess. 6 MRS. CORMACK: Sir? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We need someone to stand on 8 the corner and say, "Hear ye, hear ye," I guess. But it is 9 posted. But communication -- distributing communication and 10 information is difficult, but if you have any other 11 suggestions, I'm all ears. But thank you for stating that. 12 And then the notices, you know, we put -- they're in the -- 13 MRS. CORMACK: You'd think that the newspaper 14 would -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- advertising section. 16 MRS. CORMACK: You'd think that the newspaper would 17 do this as a public service. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They're all in the room. 19 Get them. (Laughter.) 20 MS. PROUT: I can tell you that we've written two 21 stories on the public hearings. We put it on our Facebook. 22 We promoted that story on our email, even put on it our 23 website. We put it on our Facebook, and we also printed 24 the -- we're with the Community Journal, and we also printed 25 the legal notice. I don't know how we could have done much 9-14-15 66 1 more to inform people. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Tammy, tell them what 3 newspaper you are. 4 MS. PROUT: Hill Country Community Journal. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: She didn't hear you. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You are on the record; please, 7 one at a time. 8 MRS. CORMACK: You can put it in the paper, but 9 people -- 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 11 MRS. CORMACK: -- won't read it and they won't 12 digest it. They won't act upon it -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you very much, ma'am. 14 MRS. CORMACK: -- until it affects them personally, 15 right? 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Sheriff, did you want to say 17 something? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The only response to some of 19 these I'd like to say is that when y'all -- a big portion of 20 this tax increase that the County's having to look at is due 21 to the jail expansion, which we all had to do, and this Court 22 made the decision -- what's that been, a year ago when we 23 started that? -- for us to go out and do town hall meetings. 24 We probably did 15 or 20 of them around for months, and in 25 every area of the county that we could. We put a display out 9-14-15 67 1 here in the courthouse. I know all the newspapers ran a lot 2 of ads. It actually went to a public vote and was voted on, 3 unlike what our counterparts across the road have done with 4 the baseball park and the trash collections that -- I'm a 5 city resident too, with that same trash issue and baseball 6 park issue. But -- so I think really the County has done and 7 does do a lot more open government and trying to make sure 8 the public is aware of everything. 9 I know we field it all the time, but I've sat in 10 this court for almost 35 years now, and what Judge Pollard 11 said is -- is the true deal, is unfortunately, a lot of times 12 until the last hearing or something, nobody shows up. This 13 courtroom will have a few employees in it, and that's it. 14 You don't have any public show up. So, I think it is -- but 15 I know the jail issue was put on Facebook; it was put on the 16 website. It was town hall meetings all over. It was 17 newspaper articles from all three of the newspapers 18 constantly, the radio station; that was all set up in here 19 earlier. They put it out, so I think we've done everything 20 that we can possibly do to get people involved. And that 21 was -- one was 'cause it did go to a lot -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That was a big part of the tax 23 rate increase. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That was a big part of the tax 25 rate. Now, the unfortunate part on that ballot, I think we 9-14-15 68 1 had, what, somewhere around 2,300 people vote out of a 75,000 2 population county-wide, and that's -- I made a comment, 3 that's a shame. I think it is -- more than ever before, the 4 public's got to start getting more involved. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Anybody else? All 6 right. There being none, I'll close the public hearing on 7 that -- on that matter, then. 8 MS. BOLIN: Judge? Judge? 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes? 10 MS. BOLIN: One thing. At the end of the -- we 11 just need to announce that we're going to be adopting the tax 12 rate at 10 o'clock on September the 28th. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 14 MS. BOLIN: That's part of the requirement. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That was announced. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Be advised that we are going to 18 adopt that tax rate on -- 19 MS. BOLIN: September 28th. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: -- September the 28th. At 10 a.m., 21 you say? 22 MS. BOLIN: Yes. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I want to make a 25 comment. 9-14-15 69 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Mr. Cormack's thought about 3 ad valorem taxing, he's absolutely 100 percent correct. It 4 is the dumbest thing that's ever been invented by men. It 5 has -- the valuation of my home has nothing to do with the 6 valuation of the guy's home down the street. That's dumb. 7 It is dumb. It's the dumbest tax ever invented. And -- but 8 you got to talk to the state of Texas about that. We just do 9 what the state of Texas tells us to do about that, so we get 10 on down the road and do the best we can with it. And as far 11 as information, I think we need to focus on our website. 12 People need to get -- we need to get the word out, use our 13 website, go to our website to get information. And we need 14 to just saturate our website with that kind of information. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: There's just a lot of people that 16 don't have computers, don't use them. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's true. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Have to have a library card. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, you got to have a 20 library card. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But I think it is on our 22 website. 23 MR. TROLINGER: Commissioner Moser, and I'd like to 24 say that the Tax Assessor does a great job at making sure 25 I.T. puts this stuff as if -- she wants it on the banner; she 9-14-15 70 1 wants it on the front page, not just buried in the notices 2 somewhere. And I do what I can on the I.T. side to make sure 3 that the search engines pick it up, so when you type "Kerr 4 County, Texas," we're at the very top of the results. And 5 the promotion, you're right, to promote the website. That's 6 it. You know, who knows -- how do you know the website even 7 exists to go to? That's probably the hardest part. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah, that's true, promoting 9 the website. So, y'all use the website. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you have a computer and know 11 about websites and all of that, Mr. Cormack? 12 MR. CORMACK: Your Honor, I may be the only person 13 in this room who is still computer illiterate. I read the 14 newspaper. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: No, you're not. (Laughter.) 16 MR. CORMACK: I don't -- excuse me. I don't do 17 computers. I don't listen to the radio much, because my 18 little vehicle I drive has no radio, so I'm at somewhat of a 19 disadvantage. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But his wife does. 21 MR. CORMACK: But my point that I was hoping to 22 make was that if our appraisers, whoever -- and I think this 23 might have been Mr. Coates that I've never seen before, the 24 elusive Mr. Coates from the tax Appraisal District. I wasn't 25 sure who was -- I was listening to, but if they've actually 9-14-15 71 1 looked at this property, or if they've looked at a 2 topographical map which shows relief of the terrain and sees 3 the good, flat property in the creek, as opposed to the rocky 4 hillside that's near worthless. And they asked me, "Well, 5 you wouldn't sell your place for what you paid for it, would 6 you?" That's a dumb question. No, not after I put a 7 $100,000-plus house on it, a nice hay shed, pole barn, two 8 wells now, thanks to our dwindling water supply, and the 9 improvements I've done. No. Well, that's a dumb question. 10 But the fact remains that the topographical situation does 11 not warrant me paying the kind of taxes that I'm paying. 12 And -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, you made your point, Mr. 14 Cormack. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you. 17 MR. CORMACK: Thank you, sir. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. All right. Anybody 19 else? If not, I'm closing the public hearing. 20 (The public hearing was concluded at 10:35 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 21 reopened.) 22 - - - - - - - - - - 23 JUDGE POLLARD: That's over, so we'll go to the 24 next one, which is 1. -- 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: 14. 9-14-15 72 1 JUDGE POLLARD: -- 14; consider, discuss, and take 2 appropriate action to open bids received from the RFP for 3 fencing at the Animal Services, River Star Park, polo fields 4 at the Hill Country Youth Event Center, and distribute to 5 appropriate personnel for review and evaluation, and award 6 contract if appropriate. Commissioner Letz. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll pass on that. We need to 8 send it out. We figured out we didn't have any money, so 9 we'll redo it and put that our on next agenda. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Let's go to 1.15, then. 11 All right. This is a -- 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: 1.16. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: -- timed item at 10:00 -- well, 14 that's 1.15. 15 MR. BOLLIER: 1.15. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, I'm sorry. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: This is a public hearing on the 18 County Clerk's written archival plan. I was just informed 19 about 15 minutes ago that the County Clerk had to leave on a 20 family emergency. Her husband was having chest pains and 21 going to the hospital. Anyway, so I guess we're going to 22 have to -- anybody wish to speak on this? If not, we'll pass 23 this for right now. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's a public hearing. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Public hearing. 9-14-15 73 1 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10:36 a.m., and a public hearing was held in 2 open court, as follows:) 3 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Anybody want to speak on it? 5 (No response.) 6 JUDGE POLLARD: There being no one, I'll declare 7 the public hearing closed. 8 (The public hearing was concluded at 10:36 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 9 reopened.) 10 - - - - - - - - - - 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right Item 1.16. Consider, 12 discuss, and take appropriate action to approve the County 13 Clerk's written archival plan as presented. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Pass on that. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Pass on that. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Can we do it? 17 MS. GRINSTEAD: We can't really pass, 'cause it's 18 got to be approved before we adopt the budget. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And we've had this for a 20 month or two. I mean, I'm willing to -- 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- move on it. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Is that a motion? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is a motion. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I second. 9-14-15 74 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the 2 County Clerk's written archival plan be approved. Those in 3 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.17; public 6 hearing on the District Clerk 's written archival plan. 7 Robbin Burlew. 8 (The regular Commissioners Court meeting was closed at 10:37 a.m., and a public hearing was held in 9 open court, as follows:) 10 P U B L I C H E A R I N G 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Anybody wish to speak on this 12 public hearing -- regarding this public hearing? 13 (No response.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. There being none, I'll 15 close the public hearing. 16 (The public hearing was concluded at 10:37 a.m., and the regular Commissioners Court meeting was 17 reopened.) 18 - - - - - - - - - - 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Go to 1.18; consider, discuss, and 20 take appropriate action to approve the District Clerk's 21 written archival plan as presented. Robbin Burlew. 22 MS. MARQUART: I'm here on behalf of Robbin Burlew. 23 I am Tammy Marquart; I'm the chief deputy for Robbin Burlew. 24 I received a call early this morning; she fell over the 25 weekend and broke her arm, so I am down here. I think this 9-14-15 75 1 is pretty -- you know, it's just something we do every year. 2 It allows us to collect a fee, and those fees are put into a 3 separate fund to be used for preserving records and managing 4 the records of our office. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 9 approval. Those -- any further discussion? There being 10 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.19. 13 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to appoint 14 Commissioner Reeves to fill a vacancy on AACOG's Criminal 15 Justice Advisory Committee as an alternate to replace Bill 16 Blackburn. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So moved. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Don't want to -- 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you know a lot about criminal 23 justice? 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I've already been to the 25 first meeting, so we need to go ahead and approve it. 9-14-15 76 1 (Laughter.) 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I didn't want to give him time 3 to think about backing out. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I tried to back out, but... 5 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You got a second. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any further discussion? 8 Those in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right 9 hand. 10 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.20; 12 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to ratify and 13 confirm proclamation regarding Texas 19 Day. That was the 14 big event that was planned out at Ingram. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: That -- 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's 39 day, Judge. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: What did I say? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 19. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh. My eyesight's pretty bad, in 21 addition to my hearing and other things too. All right. It 22 was a successful deal. I did read a proclamation that I 23 proposed to have done and sent to them at a later time, and 24 this is it. Is there any -- are there any questions about 25 it? It was fairly well attended. It was a little bit early, 9-14-15 77 1 because as we were holding it, they were still working on 39 2 out in front of us. But the TexDOT engineer indicated they 3 would be through essentially within four to six weeks after 4 that date, and so it was looking very good. It's -- if 5 anybody's been out there, which I hadn't been out that way in 6 a good while, I was really impressed. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's something that the 8 business people of Ingram are ready for it to be completed. 9 And you did a very good job presenting the proclamation, and 10 I move to accept it. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 13 accept the proclamation and authorize me to sign it and 14 deliver it to them. Is there any further discussion? Those 15 in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 16 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 17 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. We'll go to 18 -- is it 10:30? Yep. 1.21; consider, discuss, and take 19 appropriate action to approve the 2016 budget for Kerr 911. 20 Mr. Mark Del Toro. 21 MR. DEL TORO: Good morning, Judge. Good morning, 22 Commissioners. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Morning. 24 MR. DEL TORO: I'm Mark Del Toro, Executive 25 Director of Kerr 911. In accordance with state law, Texas 9-14-15 78 1 Health and Safety Code, Chapter 772, Subchapter D, I'm here 2 to present the Kerr 911 2016 budget for your consideration. 3 I present a balanced budget for 2016. We project a revenue 4 of $408,500, which will be a $5,000 increase over last year. 5 Payroll services, a 9 percent decrease in costs compared to 6 last year. We are -- the two employees of 911 will be 7 getting a roughly 4 percent increase in pay for this year. 8 Our PSAP operations will increase 13.27 percent over last 9 year, and that is due to anticipation of new technology, new 10 connectivity. We are working towards next generation 911, 11 which will include text-to-911, multimedia texting, messaging 12 to 911, and there are so many unknown and hidden costs in 13 that, and also looking at new connectivity to the San Antonio 14 selective router, because we've had two major cuts this year 15 that have caused outages for 911, and I don't want that to 16 happen again. 17 As I was discussing with Commissioner Moser this 18 morning, he asked me a question about the redundancy that we 19 had purchased back in 2010, and we were sold a bag of goods 20 on that one. We were promised we had diversity coming out of 21 San Antonio, going to Austin, and then making its way back to 22 Kerrville. That wasn't so, as we found out during the two 23 cable cuts this year. But working with Hill Country 24 Telephone Co-op, they have provisioned a new diverse route in 25 San Antonio, and we will be riding along that new route. 9-14-15 79 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, is that in your budget 2 here? 3 MR. DEL TORO: That's coming out of this year's 4 budget. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 6 MR. DEL TORO: And I'm anticipating new trunk 7 charges for next year, 'cause I'm going to increase our 8 capacity. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mark, the reduction in payroll, 11 I presume, is the reduction in staff, essentially? 12 MR. DEL TORO: That is correct, sir. We had a 13 reduction in staff, and we also changed our health care 14 provider, and that -- that was a significant savings as well. 15 We were expecting a 9 percent increase had we maintained the 16 current provider, and that was going to -- changing to the 17 new one gave us a $10,000 increase this year on health care 18 costs. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: But it was a net savings? 21 MR. DEL TORO: It was a net savings, yes, sir. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Our insurance went up 7.35, wasn't 23 it? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, 7.4, I think. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And you're comfortable that the 9-14-15 80 1 staffing level that you have is sufficient? 2 MR. DEL TORO: Absolutely, yeah. There's myself 3 and the G.I.S. addressing coordinator, who... 4 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes, I'm against this, 'cause 5 he stole one of my better dispatchers to go to work for him. 6 (Laughter.) 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good move, Mark. 8 MR. DEL TORO: Thank you, sir. It really was a 9 good move. He's a stellar employee, and I want to do 10 everything I can to keep him there and keep him happy. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Got to be careful. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, are you the official 13 Executive Director now? 14 MR. DEL TORO: Yes, sir, I am. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: When did that happen? 16 MR. DEL TORO: July 1st, -- 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Congratulations to you. 18 MR. DEL TORO: -- Bill Amerine stepped down. Thank 19 you, sir. Any other questions, Commissioners? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move we -- do we approve it? 21 MR. DEL TORO: Yes, sir. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move we approve the budget. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Third. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Fourth. 9-14-15 81 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Sounds like we're going to have a 2 unanimous vote. Those in favor, signify by raising your 3 right hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0, okay. Thank you, Mark. 6 MR. DEL TORO: Thank you. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Mr. Del Toro. 8 MR. DEL TORO: Commissioners, thank you for your 9 continued support. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good job, Mark. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: 1.22; consider, discuss, and take 12 appropriate action to enter into lease with West Kerr County 13 Annex building, and authorize the County Judge to sign. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. The copy of the lease 15 renewal is attached to your package. It is with the terms we 16 discussed at a previous meeting. The County Attorney has 17 drafted the change, and I make a motion to authorize the 18 County Judge to then sign the modification of the lease. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the -- 21 that the County Judge be authorized to sign the modification 22 of the lease -- or execute the lease as presented, I guess. 23 And is there any further discussion? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Shouldn't we put the figures 25 in the -- in our order? Just for these good people that are 9-14-15 82 1 sitting here today. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Certainly, I'll be glad to do 3 that. The lease will extend until September 30, 2020. Year 4 one, monthly rental, $1,200. Year two, $1,300 per month. 5 Year three, $1,400 per month. Years four and five, $1,500 6 per month. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you. Thank you very 8 much. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Good point. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. The motion is amended 11 for those -- with those figures to be included. Any further 12 discussion? Those in favor, signify by raising your right 13 hand. 14 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 15 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right. 16 1.23; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on 17 Change Order Number TX-141123A-01 for the Motorola 18 Communications System for Kerr County Sheriff's Office. 19 Sheriff Hierholzer. 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: As y'all know, we've been in 21 the process of replacing the radio system for the Sheriff's 22 Office. Motorola had won the bid process and that; the 23 contract was signed. This is the first change order we've 24 had to go through, and mainly it is due to the remediation 25 that had to be done at both L.C.R.A. tower sites, and then at 9-14-15 83 1 the Mountain Home tower site. It's pushed back the 2 completion date on that. We had originally set it for 3 October 1. We're still set to be October 1 as far as the 4 testing stage and everything, we're hoping, 'cause it's all 5 been done and it's moving forward and they're hanging that 6 equipment. We're hoping to be able to test this system and 7 get it up and going within the next two weeks, but then there 8 is a 30-day burn-in period for all the final testing before 9 we totally accept, so it's having to push it back to about 10 December. There's a few other little minor equipment 11 changes. 12 But if you'll remember, Trott Communications was 13 employed by this county as our consultant on this, so this 14 entire change order has been sent to them. And the first 15 e-mail in it is where they had gone through it, and they've 16 been with us step-by-step through the whole process, and they 17 have approved all of it, so there's no problems with it. 18 This is a zero-dollar change order. It's more of just an 19 information; it's not changing money figures or anything much 20 else. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No change in coverage 22 percentage? 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No change in -- in fact, the 24 coverage percentage on the last test has really gone up even 25 better than what we've agreed. 9-14-15 84 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Rusty, specifically, what 2 was the change order? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The main thing with the change 4 order is moving the date -- 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: -- into December for the final 7 deal. As I said, I can look at it, and there are a few 8 little minor equipment changes that weren't anything major, 9 but mainly the final acceptance date is what moved out. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But hopefully, because of the 12 issues we're having, we'll still be up and running on it and 13 testing on it within the next couple weeks. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 17 approval of the change order as requested in Item 1.23 on the 18 agenda. Is there any further discussion? If not, those in 19 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 20 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 21 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.24; 22 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to approve 23 SAVNS maintenance grant contract between the Office of the 24 Attorney General and Kerr County. Sheriff Hierholzer. 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is what we call the SAVNS 9-14-15 85 1 grant or VINE grant. It's an automatic notification system 2 for either victims or relatives of people in the criminal 3 justice system, whether at T.D.C. or locally, where they can 4 stay up with their court process. It does not cost Kerr 5 County. It's a grant through the A.G.'s office. And years 6 ago, the bill would come to us; we'd pay it, and then the 7 A.G. would reimburse. Now the bills go straight to the 8 Attorney General's office, and it's all done. It's been in 9 existence for quite a while. This is just a renewal of the 10 grant that has to be done about every year, and it's been 11 sent to the County Attorney's office. It's the same as last 12 year, and I'd ask for approval. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 17 approval of Item 1.24, which is to approve the SAVNS 18 maintenance grant contract between the Office of the Attorney 19 General and the State of Texas and Kerr County. Those in 20 favor of the motion, signify by raising -- 21 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And allow the Judge to sign 22 same. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Pardon? 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And to allow the Judge to sign 25 same. 9-14-15 86 1 JUDGE POLLARD: And to allow the County Judge to 2 execute same. Those in favor of the motion, signify by 3 raising your right hand. 4 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is this related to Ms. 7 Lavender's work? 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Let's get this show on the road. 11 1.25; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 12 clarify Court Order Numbers 34224, 34225, 34226, and 13 authorize the County Judge to sign appropriate papers or 14 documents for submission of EDAP and CWSRF applications. 15 Commissioner Letz. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I put this on the agenda just 17 to clarify the action we took on those three agenda items. 18 We approved an amendment to the 2015 SRF grant, amendment -- 19 submission of the 2016 EDAP, and submission of the 2016 SRF, 20 State Revolving Fund grant. We did those in three different 21 court orders. The backup was -- covered all three of them 22 under one. I just wanted to make sure that we clarified that 23 the intent of those three court orders was to have the County 24 Judge sign the appropriate documents for the submission of 25 all three of those applications. 9-14-15 87 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded for -- 4 as stated by Commissioner Letz on Item 1.25; long, drawn-out. 5 Is there any further discussion about that? If not, those in 6 favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 1.26 -- pass 9 this on to the clerk, please. Consider, discuss, and take 10 appropriate action to have joint meeting with U.G.R.A. Board 11 of Directors to review water permit analysis of Kerr County 12 memorandum of understanding with G.B.R.A. Commissioner Letz. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think I brought -- well, I 14 know I brought it before the Court previously that we were 15 working with U.G.R.A. on an analysis that required -- or they 16 hired Freese-Nichols -- I take it back, not Freese-Nichols. 17 They hired Fred Blumberg and ARCADIS, I think the name of 18 their firm is, to do analysis of our M.O.U., and also their 19 permit that they have is a part of the permit originally with 20 the City of Kerrville. Anyway, the analysis is done. The 21 committee that kind of oversaw that met last year. Everyone 22 was really, I think, surprised how much water we likely can 23 get out of our M.O.U., and how much they can get out of 24 moving their diversion point on their permit. So, I thought 25 it'd really be a really good point to have the engineering 9-14-15 88 1 firm come back and make a presentation to the full U.G.R.A. 2 board and this full Court so we kind of get an understanding 3 of where we're going, where we are, and where we would go 4 next. 5 We're at that point that -- we're not going to 6 approve funds, but we're at the point where it's going to 7 start costing money down the road to proceed, to basically 8 get the permits to have access to the water. U.G.R.A, being 9 the good partners they are on this, they paid for 100 percent 10 of this study, even though the majority of it really was our 11 M.O.U. But I think one of the things that we're looking at 12 is probably at least trying to memorialize some sort of a 13 memorandum of the commitment of the County and U.G.R.A. 14 continuing to work together on trying to solve some of the 15 water needs in east Kerr County, and pretty much the whole 16 county. The water that would be available, and potential 17 locations and all that, are being kind of narrowed down now, 18 and it's a lot of water. It's probably enough to help the 19 city of Kerrville if they wanted as well. We're looking in 20 the neighborhood of probably being able to -- between both 21 the U.G.R.A.'s permit and our M.O.U., the neighborhood of 22 3,000 to 4,000 acre-feet per year of water, which is more 23 than the city of Kerrville's using currently right now. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Assuming the river's flowing. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's -- this is using -- this 9-14-15 89 1 is the analysis of the agreement, of the way it models -- of 2 the models. That would be how much water we would get from 3 T.C.E.Q. permit application and the model, so this is -- this 4 water is available. It's done through high-flow periods. 5 There's a lot of work to do, but this is kind of -- this was 6 a first step. We got the M.O.U. with G.B.R.A. in 2001. 7 Haven't done much with it, and this is kind of finally 8 stating this is what the amount of water translates to. And 9 if the Court chooses to proceed in trying to figure out how 10 to access this water, we're getting near that time. But this 11 is really just to present the study to the Commissioners 12 Court, and then hopefully enter into an M.O.U. of working 13 together down the road. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Doesn't sound like -- it 15 doesn't sound like that it's going to be something that we're 16 going to feel pressure to move on down the road and spend 17 money. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And -- 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's going to be -- 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- so I'm all for it. I 22 think it would be a good idea. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this is to have the -- the 24 agenda item is to have a joint meeting with the Commissioners 25 Court and say that, and U.G.R.A. board? 9-14-15 90 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And that meeting will be on the 4 28th -- and we're doing it in conjunction with their first 5 regular board meeting. It can be the first item. It will be 6 proposed to be on the 28th of October. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: And that will be in their facility 8 over there? 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Probably at their classroom 10 facility. It will be in their building, 'cause they have 11 probably the best setup. Didn't I say the 28th? 12 MS. GRINSTEAD: You said the 28th, which is a 13 Wednesday, and you said 3:30, because the Judge has AACOG 14 that day. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. It'll be 3:30 at 16 U.G.R.A. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 20 have a joint meeting with the U.G.R.A. Board of Directors on 21 the 28th at 10 a.m. Is that right? 22 MS. GRINSTEAD: 3:30 p.m. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 3:30, all right, and probably at 24 their facility classroom. Any further discussion? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: One other comment, that one of 9-14-15 91 1 the things that -- you know, to me is that, one, U.G.R.A.'s 2 been a great partner, and has -- and they -- you know, in 3 discussions with the members of their board and their general 4 manager, they understand that their taxpayers are the exact 5 same as our taxpayers, and they haven't been quibbling about 6 dollars, as to who pays for what. They look at this as a 7 regional project for the county, and they've -- you know, 8 they're very open to going forward any way their board and we 9 choose. But it's -- it's been a good partnership so far, but 10 I'm very happy to work with them. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And they've been a good 13 partner in keeping the river clean with all the trash pickup 14 and everything else. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? Those in 17 favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. 18 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 19 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right, 20 next would be closed meeting. Do we have anything for a 21 closed meeting? 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: I didn't think so, okay. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Unbelievable. Can I veer 25 off into the ditch for a second? 9-14-15 92 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Sure. 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We invited -- or we, I 3 think, invited the City of Kerrville to sit down and visit 4 with us. Have we heard anything? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We authorized the Judge to 6 send a letter inviting them. Did you -- 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, okay. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Did we send -- 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's basically the same 10 thing. We haven't heard anything? 11 MS. GRINSTEAD: No, we haven't done anything. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh, we haven't invited them? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Do you want to pick a date to 14 invite them? Or the Judge pick a date? 15 JUDGE POLLARD: No, we'll let her -- she does all 16 the date picking around here. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You old date picker, you. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: I gave up picking dates a long time 19 ago. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: How about, Judge, if you write 21 a letter to the Mayor and City Manager, and then have Jody 22 pick the date? 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: God, this is exciting. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I thought that's what we did 25 before. 9-14-15 93 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, we're just -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Reauthorize. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Not reauthorize. We're just 4 bringing it up. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Just remind. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Remind. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay? Can you do -- do that? 9 MS. GRINSTEAD: Are you preferring an evening, a 10 lunchtime thing or what? 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Whatever they want to buy. 12 (Laughter.) 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think, as a matter of 14 fact -- 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We said we'd buy. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. I think you mentioned 17 doing it at Buzzie's or something. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's a good location. I 19 don't care if it's lunch or dinner; doesn't make any 20 difference. Lunch is fine. 21 MR. BOLLIER: Lunchtime. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: With them paying? 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, we're paying. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: We're paying, okay. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll get a donation. 9-14-15 94 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. All right. Then let's go to 2 -- if we don't have a closed meeting, we'll go on to paying 3 the bills. Anybody have any comments about that, or -- 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move we pay the bills. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved that we -- moved and 7 seconded that we pay the bills as presented. Any further 8 discussion or questions about them? If there are none, those 9 in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. 10 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Budget 12 amendments. 13 MR. ROBLES: 45 today. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: On one of the budget 15 amendments that you submitted, it was, I believe, $10,000 for 16 repairs from Road and Bridge. I can't find my notes right at 17 hand, but it's on one of the back pages. You had multiple -- 18 MS. DOSS: Oh, it was from fuel and oil to 19 equipments repairs. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: To equipment repairs. Now, 21 is this -- a while back, we had a vote for a needed repair on 22 a piece of equipment for, like, $30,000. Now, is this 23 $10,000 more on that 30, or is this other repairs? 24 MR. ROBLES: I believe it's a separate issue. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Okay, thank you. 9-14-15 95 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Any other questions? Any motions? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move approval. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded for 5 approval of the budget amendments as submitted by the 6 Auditor. Is there any further discussion? Being none, those 7 if favor of the motion, signify by raising your right hand. 8 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 9 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0, unanimous. 4.3, late bills. 10 MS. DOSS: None. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: None. Go to 4.4; approve and 12 accept monthly reports. Mr. Reeves? 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, sir. Animal Services, 14 August 2015 monthly report; Environmental Health, August 2015 15 monthly activity report; J.P., Precinct 1, August 2015; J.P., 16 Precinct 2, August 2015; J.P., Precinct 3, August 2015; J.P. 17 Precinct 4, August 2015; Constable, Precinct 1, August 2015; 18 Constable, Precinct 2, August 2015; Constable, Precinct 3, 19 July 2015 and August 2015; Constable, Precinct 4, 20 August 2015; District Clerk, August 2015; County Treasurer, 21 payroll approval for the month of August 2015. Move to 22 approve. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the 25 monthly reports as indicated by Commissioner Reeves be 9-14-15 96 1 accepted. Any further discussion? There being none, those 2 in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 3 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 4 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Reports from 5 Commissioners and liaison committee assignments. Anybody? 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, sir. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Reports from elected officials, 8 department heads. Any? Yes, Sheriff? 9 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Just two things real quick. 10 One is, as everybody's aware, the flu clinic is this 11 Wednesday out at the Ag Barn. That is also doubling as an 12 emergency management exercise. Our trailer will be out 13 there, and John in I.T. has done a lot of work with 14 communications enhancements in it, 'cause it is -- we have to 15 have so many emergency management exercises each year. The 16 CERT members from the Sheriff's Office will be a lot of the 17 traffic people out there. So, it doesn't change -- it 18 doesn't interfere with it, but it does give a good, practical 19 exercise on testing that, and I know they'd like to see you 20 out there, Judge, and myself. And then the second thing is, 21 the one thing I think the public ought to know about the new 22 communications system is, because of technologies and because 23 of the way we had to go, and the old system just wasn't any 24 -- wasn't going to make it any longer. This one is digital. 25 And I know I've always counted on the public a lot of times, 9-14-15 97 1 'cause there's a lot of the public that listens to the 2 scanner, and it does help us out greatly when we have things 3 going on, because our radio communications have always been 4 able to be picked up on scanners. Once you're digital, it's 5 kind of like the P.D. right now, 'cause they've been digital 6 for years, is most scanners don't pick up that radio traffic 7 any more. So, I just want them to be aware that just 8 technology and times, we don't have a choice. The way the 9 F.C.C. has changed things around in law enforcement and that, 10 we're on -- our new system will be digital once we do it. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you. Any other reports? 12 MS. GRINSTEAD: I just want to clarify, the event 13 that the Sheriff's talking about is the H.E.B. community flu 14 clinic, not the Kerr County health fair. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Right. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Oh. 17 MS. GRINSTEAD: I just saw Commissioner Baldwin 18 kind of perk up, and I was like, it's -- our health fair, I 19 believe, is October 14th, but this one is the community one 20 that H.E.B. does. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: So, this is Wednesday at what time, 22 Sheriff? 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This one is all day long. 24 It's the community health one by H.E.B. and Sid Pete. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: When do I have to be there? 9-14-15 98 1 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Just any time during the day, 2 Judge, that you'd -- we'd like to see you make an appearance 3 out there. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: This location or where? 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Out at the Ag Barn. 6 MR. BOLLIER: Most of that will be held in the 7 large meeting rooms, and they will have the drive-by -- I 8 believe it will be at your -- it'll be on the west side of 9 the barn. They have a drive-by, have people some coming in. 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: 'Cause this is actually one 11 where all the community can come out and get their flu shots 12 that need them out there. It's not put on, necessarily, by 13 the County, but I think they even have a drive-by, so those 14 people that need the flu shots, but don't get around too 15 much, don't even have to get out of their vehicle. And 16 because it's county-wide and large, it can also be used as a 17 practical exercise for emergency management. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Sheriff. All right. 19 Reports from boards, commissions, committees, or anybody 20 else? City/County joint projects? Operations reports? 21 Anybody else? 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Want to tell us about your 23 trip last night? She watched the Cowboy game, then drove 24 home. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh my gosh. 9-14-15 99 1 MS. TOWNSEND: Can't pass up tickets like that. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: She watched it live at the 3 Cowboy -- 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir. 5 MS. TOWNSEND: Third row at an end zone. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Goodness, you didn't get home till 7 really late, huh? 8 MS. TOWNSEND: Yeah, really late. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Didn't leave till the last 10 seven seconds, though, did you? 11 MS. TOWNSEND: No. Oh, no, I was there the whole 12 time. I thought it was going to end earlier, but it didn't. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Is there anything else? 14 If there's nothing further, we're adjourned. 15 (Commissioners Court adjourned at 11:06 a.m.) 16 - - - - - - - - - - 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 9-14-15 100 1 STATE OF TEXAS | 2 COUNTY OF KERR | 3 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 4 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 5 official reporter for the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 6 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 7 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 18th day of September, 8 2015. 9 10 REBECCA BOLIN, Kerr County Clerk 11 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 12 Certified Shorthand Reporter 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 9-14-15