1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Special Session 10 Thursday, October 29, 2015 11 1:00 p.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 25 ABSENT: TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 2 1 I N D E X October 29, 2015 2 PAGE 3 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to approve and authorize County Judge to sign the 4 management contract for the Hill Country Youth Event Center 3 5 1.2 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 6 appoint liaisons as County representatives in accordance with the management contract for the 7 Hill Country Youth Event Center 20 8 --- Adjourned 23 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 1 On Thursday, October 29, 2015, at 1:00 p.m., a special 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's October the 29th, 8 2015. It's about 1:03 p.m., and the Kerr County 9 Commissioners Court is in session for a special session that 10 was -- the notice was published of this meeting. We're in 11 session. Who needs the floor? Jonathan? Bob? 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: If you want to call the first 13 item, and then we can start. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's Item 1.1; 15 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to approve and 16 authorize County Judge to sign the management contract for 17 Hill Country Youth Event Center. Commissioners Letz and 18 Reeves. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Commissioner? 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: After I don't know how many 21 months of negotiation between ourselves and Global Spectrum, 22 we believe we have come to a contractual agreement, subject 23 to the Court's approval, which is beneficial to everybody 24 involved. There's a few sticking points that we've worked 25 very hard to get cleared up along the line, and finally, I 10-29-15 4 1 believe Monday, they agreed to the last part that we were 2 pretty firm on. You have a copy of the contract before you. 3 County Attorney has reviewed it, and I guess I'll ask for 4 questions, if Jonathan wants to -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just the process early on, 6 pretty much Bob and I were working with Peter Zingoni, and 7 then probably about six weeks ago, it was turned over that 8 only the attorneys would communicate back and forth, just to 9 simplify, make sure that the language was there. We visited 10 with Heather in meetings, and Heather then relayed that up to 11 their attorney; they'd come back to draft back and forth. 12 That's what -- you know, and the only question I have is that 13 there -- this is a -- new to the contract, but not new to our 14 plans, I don't think, is that there is a commitment in the 15 agreement of the County to spend $200,000 on that facility in 16 the next 12 months. And, Brenda, as I recall, we have -- 17 between the parks funds and the -- or the -- basically, the 18 Ag Barn funds, there's in excess of 200,000 that we already 19 have budgeted for that. 20 MS. DOSS: For that department? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: For that -- oh, no, it's under 22 that -- the -- 23 MS. DOSS: Oh, for the capital projects? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Capital projects. There's over 25 200,000 in those funds that are available that we'd set aside 10-29-15 5 1 for -- I think it was closer to 250,000. But I just want to 2 verify that is the number. 3 MS. DOSS: I'll verify. Do you want me to do it 4 now? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right now, 'cause that number's 6 in the agreement. Sorry. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: In addition, Global Spectrum 8 will advance $75,000 to be used to offset transition costs 9 that we would normally have to pay for, and also the -- which 10 transition costs will be between 25,000 and 30,000, which 11 they will advance. In addition, the remainder of that money 12 they will allow to be spent for additional capital 13 improvements, probably something to do with the concession 14 kitchen area at the event center. The contract is for five 15 years. If the County terminates the contract during that 16 period of time, say we terminate it two and a half years in, 17 we would have to pay back half of it if we terminated the 18 contract. It's a prorated amount over the five-year time. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: The 200,000 or so that we'd have to 20 spend out there on the facility, is it targeted for any 21 particular thing? Is that on the kitchen facility or -- 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Our choice. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: -- that big divider door? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's our choice. I think the 25 intent is the first expenditure -- and everyone agrees, you 10-29-15 6 1 know, "everyone" being Bob and I and Global Spectrum's 2 folks -- that the dividing door is the number one priority, 3 and we're estimating that somewhere at 120,000, probably. We 4 are -- the Court previously authorized us to go out for RFP 5 on that, but that was easier -- the motion was easy, but the 6 doing it has been a little more difficult, because we've had 7 to go back to Huser to find out exactly what specifications 8 we need to have in that RFP to make sure it matches what 9 they've already installed. And we think we have that 10 information now, and we -- and Heather's working on the RFP 11 right now. Our plan is to have that RFP go out -- ready to 12 go out in the next -- within the next couple weeks. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Beyond that, is there anything 14 planned for the rest of the other 80,000 or so? 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: There's a need for fencing. 16 There's a need for some of the road work, which I anticipate 17 in a future court meeting, of River Road. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. And tables, chairs. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Round tables are a very 20 necessary need for that. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, that -- 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Fortunately, with Global, 23 they have the corporate purchasing power of bulk, which we'd 24 have to go through bids, naturally, for how much it would be. 25 But a lot of that, they have the ability to acquire it at a 10-29-15 7 1 very low price compared to what -- if we were just buying it 2 for ourselves. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you a question. 4 Did you just run out of air or what? You used the words 5 "River Road," and then you went off to something else. 6 What's the deal with River Road? 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I was thinking and talking at 8 the same time, so excuse me. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I've seen that before. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yeah, it's a common 11 occurrence. Closure of River Road along the area between 12 Flat Rock and our -- our event center. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: "Ours" being the County. 15 Putting up cul-de-sacs. That'll take some money where there 16 would be a turnaround, stuff like that. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. Okay. You know, 18 that needs to be done tomorrow. All of that -- 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- needs to be done 21 tomorrow. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But that would take some of 23 that capital money as well, in my opinion. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And it seemed like to me 25 that the capital money, when we first talked about the 10-29-15 8 1 capital issues a couple years ago, that we actually had a 2 list of things, like this kitchen deal was part of it, and 3 then the divider thing came into the talk after the kitchen 4 came in. But it seemed like there was -- I don't know if 5 "earmark" is the correct term or not, but -- 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, that's pretty good. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- that's good enough. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It communicates what you're talking 9 about. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But it seemed like to me -- 11 maybe I'm wrong. I mean, this 200,000 bucks, is it there? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. There's -- under the 13 numbers, there's 170,479 designated for that facility 14 specifically, and there's another 175 that's undesignated. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So we need -- when they say 16 -- when they request that the County agrees to invest the 17 200,000, do we get specific on what we're going to do with 18 the 200,000? Or do we hand them $200,000 and let them -- 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We do it. We decide. They 20 don't have any -- 21 JUDGE POLLARD: We got to do it in the first 12 22 months of this contract, too. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That seems to strange to me. 24 What a strange thing to put in a contract, it seems to me. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, there -- the reason it's 10-29-15 9 1 in the contract -- it got in the contract is their revenue 2 projections are based on a scenario that has a kitchen or a 3 concession stand operable, and a divider in that room. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And their -- I guess they 6 wanted us to commit to doing that. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And that's why it got in here, 9 because we were holding them to their budget number, and are 10 holding them to their budget number, and they're -- they kind 11 of said, "Well, we don't have total control because you all 12 have to do this to get there." 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: "You have to commit to do the 15 things you said you were going to do." We said fine. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Is that what we're going to 17 do with the $200,000, is build a kitchen and -- 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, they're going to help. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's the priority. They're 20 going to help support it, but it's our decision. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But they're also going to 22 provide, over the 200,000, -- 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- it will come out to 45,000 25 to 50,000. What's left over of the 75, they will advance to 10-29-15 10 1 us for either the kitchen or the concession area or other 2 areas we think will generate the most income. So, we're 3 going to spend 200,000 from funds that we have left over in 4 the C.O. They're going to spend 45,000 to 50,000, depending 5 on what the transition costs of relocation of staff is, that 6 they're going to advance to us, and then we'll spend that as 7 well. So, they're putting some -- they're putting some money 8 in the game as well. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. And so the 200,000, 10 is in there, and it's always been there, and -- 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: A lot of things we're talking 12 about putting in is what we took out in the initial 13 construction, because we didn't know where we'd end up at the 14 -- at the end. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So it's not like we've just 17 decided to do it. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. And they've got a list 19 of probably -- it probably goes beyond 200,000. I mean, 20 there's -- you know, it's -- and because they can buy quicker 21 and easier -- not quicker; they can buy it cheaper than we 22 probably can without them. There's things that have been 23 talked about. Certainly, the divider and kitchen are one and 24 two on the list. Then after that, you have tables and 25 chairs, because worst case, they can be rented. It's better 10-29-15 11 1 to own them where they can be rented, and those -- and those 2 produce income back to us, too, 'cause they're rented, you 3 know, back out to the public. Carpet squares, or carpeting 4 part of the area. They have said that they think that carpet 5 needs to go probably in the classrooms, and they -- it's 6 portable carpet, basically what it is, just to help with 7 noise a little bit. So, they have some things that they 8 think, but it's going to be up to us which ones we think are 9 the most important. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do we have storage space for 11 tables and chairs? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Cool. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: I think it's important to make the 15 point, too, that the 200,000 that they want us to spend on 16 that facility is not another $200,000 that we have to come up 17 with. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, sir. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: This has been budgeted and has been 20 in there all along. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It was part of the C.O. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Taxpayers are going to want to know 23 that. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's not an additional amount 25 we're having to borrow. 10-29-15 12 1 JUDGE POLLARD: That's right. I want to emphasize 2 that. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's already in the 4 Certificate of Obligation from the past. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, you know, I'm comfortable 6 with the agreement. The only thing that -- that is -- 7 there's, I know, one exhibit, being the budget. I have not 8 looked -- I know we've got one, but I haven't looked over it. 9 I want to look at that, so I'd like to make it subject to the 10 -- I'm presuming Bob and Brenda and myself looking at that, 11 and making sure it matches with what we have budgeted 12 exactly. It's their pro forma budget. I looked at it -- 13 glanced at it. The numbers didn't look exactly right to me, 14 and I think it's probably how they're accounting for 15 utilities, may be the difference. So, it's kind of up in the 16 air. I mean it's -- the way we handle it is a little bit 17 different. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: So, you're proposing now maybe a 19 resolution to authorize the County Judge to execute this 20 document, contingent upon however you -- you three giving the 21 high sign after you look at the budget, and make sure 22 everything matches -- 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: -- like you think it should match? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And that match will be within 10-29-15 13 1 what we have budgeted in this year's budget. 2 MS. STEBBINS: I'd like to add that they also need 3 an exhibit, the things that we currently have scheduled, so 4 they can -- we can attach that to the contract. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And they also need a map. 7 There's some exhibits that we have to add; a map, a listing 8 of current contractual obligations, as she said, and the 9 budget. And actually, there will be two budgets, the pro 10 forma budget for operations of the facility plus the 11 transition budget for relocating employees to Kerrville, 12 which will all be part of the contractual -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: There's no actual language in there 14 about the 200,000 that says it has to be spent on that -- 15 this divider door? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's just -- we're committing 17 to capital improvements at the facility. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. I tell you, that makes -- 19 that sort of thing in the contract makes a difference to me. 20 It's important to me, because I perceive that towards the end 21 here, this -- there's been a development of some kind of a 22 relationship, a little bit of trust between this particular 23 outfit and the County, and the County has responded in-kind 24 with that. And to me, that shows that they're both going to 25 work hard to make it work, and that's -- for a while, there 10-29-15 14 1 was a doubt about that, and so that's -- that's important to 2 me. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They definitely -- there have 4 been -- it's been a true -- both sides negotiating for two 5 months. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: In good faith. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right, and trying to make a 8 deal. They want to come here and operate the facility, and I 9 think we want them to make a go of it. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: See, that's what that tells me. 11 They do want to come here and operate the facility, and we 12 want them, and if we're both parties wanting to cooperate, 13 it's going to work. I like that factor about it. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you about this 15 schedule of the events. Does that include stock show and -- 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- pigs and sheep and 18 chickens and -- 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No chickens. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No chickens. But they 21 have -- like, through the year there's five or six events out 22 there. There's -- what do you call that? But -- but, you 23 know, the 4-H people will be doing different things outside 24 the stock show; they'll be doing the individual things. Do 25 we have all that down? 10-29-15 15 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. We are protecting the 2 4-H and F.F.A.'s, which that center was built for. The 3 livestock show, in consideration of the lease that's been 4 approved and the partnership that that's been going on since 5 day one, those are protected. Events that Kerr County may 6 need to have; i.e., an election location, -- 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Meetings. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- county meetings for 9 employees, -- 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Christmas party. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- Christmas party, et 12 cetera, those are protected. Naturally, the first of every 13 year we would give them a list of dates that -- 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I see. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: 'Cause we'll know when the 16 election dates are. And that was one of the things going 17 back and forth, was they first wanted it subject to 18 availability, and we said no, we can't negotiate on an 19 election; that's called by the state law. So -- so -- and 20 we'll tell them in advance when the Christmas party is. The 21 4-H events that have been held, or the F.F.A. events, first 22 of the year, we'll give them a list that the wild game dinner 23 is this. They also understand if there's not an event going 24 on and our 4-H kids need to use it for a club meeting, it's 25 available. 10-29-15 16 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Not if it's something that's 3 been scheduled six months out by another group, but that's 4 the same as it is now. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So, the 4-H and the F.F.A., 7 the livestock show, and Kerr County, for what we need, is -- 8 is available for our use. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Cool. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But on that -- and 4-H is 11 protected, but if there's any group using it, say they're 12 doing a goat sale out there, that group doing it is going to 13 have to pay. I mean, it's not -- it's not -- if a 4-H person 14 from Fredericksburg comes down here and wants to sell our 4-H 15 kids' and others' goats, he's going to have to lease it and 16 pay to lease it to be able to sell the goats here, 'cause 17 he's trying to make money on the deal. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And he should. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: We don't charge him now? 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No, we do. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We do. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just like now. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But some of them try to get -- 25 say they're 4-H. 10-29-15 17 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I understand. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They try to get around it. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: But our true county 4-H 4 events, Kerr County -- I'm using "Kerr County" because 5 there's several F.F.A. chapters. They may have a banquet 6 there or something. They're protected. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, fantastic. That's 8 great news. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the -- I think Bob can 10 answer this more, but I know that Global Spectrum has met 11 with Stock Show Association on more than one occasion, and 12 they're building a little bit of a relationship, I think. I 13 mean, I think they're -- stock show is not adverse to this 14 deal at all. At the moment, I mean. Not to say -- 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, and not saying for any 16 of them, but they have sat down with Steve Bauer, and I sat 17 down with Steve and a representative from Global Spectrum, 18 and just a good -- a good talk like we're doing right now, 19 and they were very receptive on both parts. And they said, 20 "We're not -- we know you're a big event. We want to help 21 you grow. And if you don't want us to help you, we'll step 22 back and stay out of your way." I mean, it was one of those. 23 It's not, "Our way or the highway." So -- 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Now, the current -- and this 25 gets a little bit into the next item, but it is relevant 10-29-15 18 1 here. The transition schedule, the way we have discussed it 2 loosely right now is that they have a general manager 3 candidate currently that is operations head in Denver at 4 the -- Budweiser Center? 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I forgot the name of it. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's come down. We've met him. 7 Anyway, he is ready -- they're ready to formally offer him 8 the job, which I -- and then he would take it and he would 9 come down immediately. Additional staff from them would not 10 come down probably until the first of February, and during 11 that transition period, he would be working with Maintenance 12 to see how it's operating, just that one person, with 13 Maintenance Department. With the idea being that, you know, 14 around February 1st or during February, our maintenance 15 probably would phase out completely, and they would phase in. 16 And I say phase out; there's going to be -- obviously, our 17 Maintenance Department is going to be -- it's going to be a 18 partnership with them on occasional things. And, you know, 19 the same with Road and Bridge. Road and Bridge is still 20 going to do work out there, so it's a partnership. It's not 21 just we're just washing our hands of that facility. We're 22 still -- if they have to go out and hire somebody, and -- you 23 know, like, to maintain or to blade something off, we're 24 paying for it, so we might as well use our Road and Bridge 25 like we have in the past. And they already know how to do 10-29-15 19 1 it, so that part of it is -- it's not -- we're still going to 2 work together. But that's kind of the transition schedule. 3 It didn't make much sense to have them try to staff up right 4 now, because it's really too late to do anything for the 5 holiday season, much. And then January, and with the school 6 stock shows, and the month of January being blocked off, it 7 made no sense to bring in a bunch of staff right now. So, 8 that's kind of the transition schedule. We'll get a little 9 bit more of that on the next item. 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: There's a lot of candle in 11 this thing. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: All right. I'll make a 13 motion -- I think I almost did already, but I'll make a 14 motion that we approve the management contract with Global 15 Spectrum, subject to the pro forma budget being -- or 16 contingent upon the pro forma budget being approved by 17 Brenda, Commissioner Reeves, and myself. And the -- 18 operating budget? 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Transition. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the transition budget being 21 approved by the same three parties. And then also contingent 22 on the County supplying the events for -- and contracts for 23 the next 12 months, or that we have scheduled, I guess, for 24 the next year, and then authorize the County Judge to sign 25 same. 10-29-15 20 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I will second the motion. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. I'll not try to repeat that. 3 Got it down good? Okay. On Item 1.1, then, the motion's 4 been made and seconded. Is there any further discussion? 5 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 6 right hand. 7 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 3-0.) 8 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 3-0 -- no? 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: 3-0. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I thought I'd make them 12 nervous a little bit. (Laughter.) Bob's head's shining down 13 there. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Turn your head around. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: 3-0. Let the record reflect that 16 Commissioner Moser has not been here today, and he gave us 17 advance notice that he had a prior commitment that he 18 couldn't get out of, so it was expected. All right. Let's 19 go to Item 1.2; consider, discuss, and take appropriate 20 action to appoint liaisons as county representatives in 21 accordance with management contract for the Hill Country 22 Youth Event Center. Commissioners Letz and Reeves. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: One of the portions of the 24 contract is they need to know -- "they' being Global -- who 25 to speak with on behalf of the County, and a designated 10-29-15 21 1 representative. The representative wouldn't have authority 2 to bind the County, but they need to know, "Do I speak to 3 Commissioner Baldwin, or do I go to the Judge on every 4 question?" Commissioner Letz and I feel like we're already 5 the liaisons out there, and we've been working with them, so 6 if there's a question, they come to us and we bring it to the 7 Court. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move we appoint 3 and 4. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree, let's do that. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'll second. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Has there been a second? 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'll second. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a -- I guess one of the 15 first items that -- well, go ahead and -- I'll just bring it 16 up first. The -- 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I just have a report, but 18 I'll change my mind. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The G.M. candidate they have 20 picked, Bob and I have met. Do you want us to have him flown 21 down? Do you want him to fly down to meet the Court? 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I do not. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Or do you want us to say our 24 view is he's acceptable; he's their person? You know, 25 there's nothing wrong with him at all, and they want him, so 10-29-15 22 1 let them have him. So, you do not? 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't. I don't have any 3 interest in it. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: I don't either. If he smells all 5 right to you guys, he smells all right to me. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I will say that he wasn't what 7 I expected. He's much more of a -- he can run every piece of 8 equipment out there. He's hands-on. He's a little bit of a 9 rough guy. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: That's good. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Which -- and we were both a 12 little bit leery. Then shortly after that, Trolinger came 13 in, and Mr. Trolinger -- we started talking about I.T., and 14 Mr. Trolinger started peppering him with I.T. stuff that I 15 had no clue what they were talking about. He could answer 16 every one of them, and I said I'm pretty impressed. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Pretty well-rounded guy. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He knows how to work the air 19 conditioning system. I guess they're pretty complicated; I 20 don't know, which is computerized, and how to do all that 21 stuff and monitor all that. So, I think he's a good hand. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good deal. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We have a motion on the 25 floor. Any further discussion or questions? If not, once 10-29-15 23 1 again -- maybe we already voted on it. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, not yet. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Those in favor, signify 4 by raising your right hand. 5 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 3-0.) 6 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, it's three -- the motion 7 passes 3-to-0. All right. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's it. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: We're adjourned. Thank you very 10 much. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thank y'all. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: I do want do say one last thing. 13 You guys have really put in a lot of time on this thing. I 14 know you have, and I want you to know that I, for one, really 15 appreciate everything you've done. I know it's taken a lot 16 of time out of your personal life, and I think you've done a 17 great job. I really do, and I appreciate it very much. 18 Thank you. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thank you. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Dittos. Thank y'all. 21 (Commissioners Court adjourned at 1:30 p.m.) 22 - - - - - - - - - - - 23 24 25 10-29-15 24 1 STATE OF TEXAS | 2 COUNTY OF KERR | 3 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 4 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 5 official reporter for the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 6 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 7 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 30th day of October, 8 2015. 9 10 REBECCA BOLIN, Kerr County Clerk 11 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 12 Certified Shorthand Reporter 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 10-29-15