1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT 9 Special Session 10 Monday, November 23, 2015 11 9:00 a.m. 12 Commissioners' Courtroom 13 Kerr County Courthouse 14 Kerrville, Texas 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 25 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 2 1 I N D E X November 23, 2015 2 PAGE 3 --- Commissioners' Comments 4 4 1.1 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to authorize County Judge to sign various documents 5 for Kerrville South Phase 6 wastewater project 6 6 1.2 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to pass a resolution directing the Kerr County 7 Environmental Health & Animal Services Department to work with "Bark in the Park" to develop and 8 implement plan to promote animal adoptions 9 9 1.3 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on request to use Kerr County Courthouse Square 10 for annual Cowboy Breakfast on January 15, 2016 29 11 1.4 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to accept preliminary revision of plat for Lot 161 12 of Spicer Ranch 3 & set a public hearing, Pct. 1 31 13 1.5 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to accept preliminary revision of plat for Tracts 55, 14 56, and part of 57 of Bear Creek Ranch and set a public hearing, Precinct 1 34 15 1.6 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 16 approve contract with Republic Services and authorize County Judge to sign same 38 17 1.7 Progress report from recent audit of Kerr County 18 Juvenile Detention Facility 41 19 1.8 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on revision of Kerr County Juvenile Detention 20 Facility Policy and Procedure Manual 44 21 1.11 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding basic plan for Emergency Management 22 and authorize County Judge to sign 47 23 1.9 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to ratify and confirm audits required by Article 24 59.06, Code of Criminal Procedure, and FY-2015 Chapter 59 Asset Forfeiture Reports for 198th 25 D.A., 216th D.A., and Kerr County Sheriff 53 3 1 I N D E X (Continued) November 23, 2015 2 PAGE 1.10 Report from Maggie Baker, Kerr County Veteran 3 Services Officer 55 4 1.17 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action concerning potential modifications to EDAP 5 (Economically Distressed Areas Program) and CWSRF (Clean Water State Revolving Fund) 2016 6 applications 67 7 1.12 Status of telephone service disruption 81 8 1.13 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action regarding County funding library cards via 9 Read2Win at Butt-Holdsworth Library for needy children living outside the city limits 84 10 1.14 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 11 approve contract with Divide V.F.D. and allow County Judge to sign same 89 12 1.15 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action 13 regarding approval of capital expenditures at Hill Country Youth Event Center 90 14 1.16 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action on 15 joint resolution of City of Kerrville, Kerr County, K.I.S.D., and K.P.U.B supporting the 16 adoption of the Rural Project Plan under consideration by Texas Dept. of Transportation 99 17 1.18 Consider/discuss, take appropriate action to 18 set date for annual Kerr County Christmas party 105 19 4.1 Pay Bills 107 4.2 Budget Amendments 108 20 4.3 Late Bills 108 4.4 Approve and Accept Monthly Reports 109 21 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison Committee 22 Assignments 109 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department Heads 110 23 --- Adjourned 119 24 25 4 1 On Monday, November 23, 2015, at 9:00 a.m., a special 2 meeting of the Kerr County Commissioners Court was held in 3 the Commissioners' Courtroom, Kerr County Courthouse, 4 Kerrville, Texas, and the following proceedings were had in 5 open court: 6 P R O C E E D I N G S 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. It's November 23rd, 2015, 8 and it's 9 a.m. Kerr County Commissioners Court is in 9 session. And Commissioner Reeves, Precinct 4, will lead us 10 today. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Short prayer, and then the 12 pledge. 13 (Prayer and pledge of allegiance.) 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. The next part of the 15 agenda is the part that has to do with anybody in the public 16 that wishes to address the Commissioners Court. This would 17 be on matters not on the agenda. And if you do wish to do 18 so, then please come to the podium, give your name and 19 address, and limit your comments to three minutes, please. 20 Is there anyone? Don't run over me. Okay, there being none, 21 we'll go to -- the Commissioners and County Judge may use 22 this time to recognize achievements of persons in their 23 precinct or to make comments, and they usually have plenty. 24 We'll start with Precinct 1. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I appreciate your 11-23-15 5 1 offer, but I'm going to pass right now. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you very much. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: This is unusual. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There's so many people to 7 recognize, I better not just pick out one, so I'll pass. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, I'll pass too -- no, I won't. 9 There's -- worldwide news is very depressing right now, and 10 we're all aware what's happened in Paris and all over the 11 world, and I guess we maybe even need to expect something 12 like that and make preparations, even in small communities, 13 wherever there are large gatherings, and I hope our Sheriff 14 and first responders are keeping that in mind. And our 15 prayers are with the first responders. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Two things. One, I'd like to 17 recognize and note the passing of one of our colleagues in 18 Kendall County. Commissioner Royce Steubing passed away last 19 weekend after a long battle with cancer. But he will be 20 missed, and prayers for he and his family. A lot of 21 connections with that family with Kerr County. One of his 22 daughters married Tom Wren's son Tom, and so there's a lot of 23 interactions with a lot of people around here, you know, 24 Kendra and Tom. Anyway, prayers for that family. And I'd 25 also like to recognize, gosh, Alamo Springs Fire Department, 11-23-15 6 1 Comfort Fire Department, Waring Fire Department, and I 2 believe Center Point Fire Department for fighting a very 3 difficult fire. A house burned to the ground in Falling 4 Waters Saturday afternoon when we had the very high winds. 5 They were -- the house was 98 percent complete. People had 6 not taken care of -- they believed it started from fumes you 7 from rags from painting. But it burned to the ground, as I 8 understand. I've not been out to look at it, but I know it 9 was a -- I believe that those four fire departments 10 responded, and with those winds, they were able to contain it 11 to one site. Rusty may know more about that, but those two 12 items are all I have. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: To follow up your comments 14 about Commissioner Steubing, I know the family, especially 15 Kendra and the commissioner's son-in-law. Very 16 well-respected man. The service was literately overflowing, 17 standing room only, and so he'll be missed, especially over 18 around Number 3's precinct, but every place. And finally, 19 just wish everybody on the Court and everybody here a happy 20 Thanksgiving. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Happy Thanksgiving. Thank 22 you. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Very good. All right. We'll go to 24 Item 1.1 on the agenda; consider, discuss, and take 25 appropriate action to authorize County Judge to sign various 11-23-15 7 1 documents for Kerrville South, Phase 6 wastewater project. 2 Mr. Hastings. 3 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. The Kerrville South 4 wastewater project, Phase 6, consists of first-time sewer 5 service for the Park Hill Apartments off Ranchero, as well as 6 a duplex that's located on Ranchero as well, 32-A and B. 7 This is the final phase of the project. The additional sewer 8 connections in Phase 6, they have necessitated upgrades to 9 the lift station, and that was constructed in previous 10 phases. Additional wet well capacity, any electrical 11 controls, and three-phase generator are included in the scope 12 of the project. In your agenda, there are several forms that 13 must be signed and scanned and e-mailed to the grant 14 administrator, Grantworks. The forms are as follows: We 15 have a list of accounts for the Kerr County project; that 16 would be the Park Hill Apartments as well as the duplex. 17 Texas Community Development Block Grant survey tabulation 18 form; they have about 98 percent of the people responded to 19 it, and as well as a contract amendment/modification request; 20 that's the form A-1101. And after the detailed design work 21 was completed and the area was resurveyed, the quantities and 22 the beneficiaries changed from the original scope. That's 23 the purpose of that amendment modification request. And 24 we're requesting that the Court authorize the County Judge to 25 sign those documents for the Kerrville South wastewater 11-23-15 8 1 project, Phase 6. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So moved, that we authorize 3 the County Judge to sign those documents. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I second it. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded that 6 the County Judge be authorized to sign and execute the 7 documents listed in Item 1 on the agenda -- 1.1 on the 8 agenda. There's several of the forms in here. Is there any 9 further discussion? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I just wanted to add 11 that we probably need to get those signed kind of as early as 12 possible in this day so we can -- they need to arrive in 13 Austin today? 14 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. And we can scan them and 15 e-mail -- 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: He's signing them; don't say 17 another word. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Got to get it passed first. 19 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion? 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I would just add that there 22 was a preconstruction meeting on Friday with the County and 23 the City project engineers, Grantworks, and everything is 24 good to go. They're -- they've got their team in place. I 25 think they start work on -- on December the 7th. That's the 11-23-15 9 1 start date. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Pearl Harbor Day. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Which is Pearl Harbor Day. 4 So, they're going to declare war on the rest of that project, 5 and this will be the end of Kerrville South as far as all the 6 construction. They think they'll be through in three months, 7 and we'll hold them to it. So, it's a guess. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Anything else? If not, 9 those in favor of the motion, signify by raising your right 10 hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. And I'll sign 13 it right now. Is that early enough, Commissioner Baldwin? 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, sir, it's early enough. 15 Thank you. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Either send it today or they 17 cancel. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: We don't want that to happen. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, we don't. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. I'll continue signing 21 and sign the rest of them. We'll go -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: I'll do it -- let's do Item 1.2 on 24 the agenda; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 25 pass a resolution directing Kerr County Environmental Health 11-23-15 10 1 and Animal Services Department to work with Bark in the Park 2 to develop and implement a plan to promote adoptions from 3 Kerr County Animal Services to help reduce the number of 4 animals that must be euthanized. Mr. Garcia. And I would 5 say you're going in the right direction with those pretty 6 girls out there. (Laughter.) 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There's some guys out there 8 too. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. Well -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Those good-looking guys. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But not near as pretty, 12 though. 13 MR. GARCIA: Good morning, Judge, Commissioners. A 14 couple months ago, I was notified by Kerr County Animal staff 15 that a couple -- or a few Tivy High School students had 16 stopped by to talk to me. They had requested a meeting that 17 day, with persistence, but unfortunately, I wasn't available 18 that day. Sooner than later, we got a meeting scheduled, and 19 they proposed a plan to me which raised a lot of awareness 20 for myself and for my staff out at Kerr County Animal 21 Services. It gave them a lot of excitement. I was excited 22 to hear this. I was also taken aback that it was students 23 that actually came up with this idea. So, today we're here; 24 I have students here with me, and the original idea came from 25 Ms. Anna Beth Burniston, and she's here. And we're here 11-23-15 11 1 today to ask for the Court to pass a resolution, again, as 2 the agenda item stated, to work together to reduce 3 euthanization and to improve our adoption rates at Kerr 4 County Animal Services. This is very -- very special, and I 5 would say this from my heart and from my staff's heart, that 6 this was something that really gave the staff at Kerr County 7 Animal Services a lot of drive to work with these guys, these 8 young, up-and-coming professionals. So, without further ado, 9 I'm going to -- yes, sir? 10 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Ray, I'd like to ask a 11 question real quick. Bark in the Park, is that the same 12 thing as Bark for Life? 13 MR. GARCIA: No, sir. No. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Bark in the Park, is that an 15 old program like you? Or -- (Laughter.) Just thought I'd 16 throw that in. 17 MR. GARCIA: This is a program which is -- 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Fortunately, it's not as old as he 19 is. 20 MR. GARCIA: This program is a like program from a 21 program in Austin that I'm -- that Ms. Anna Beth Burniston 22 was going to explain to you guys. But, no, it's not Bark for 23 Life, to answer your question. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you. 25 MR. GARCIA: Yes, sir. Without further ado, I'd 11-23-15 12 1 like to introduce Ms. Anna Beth Burniston, who came up with 2 the idea, and I'm going to let her take it from there. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. 4 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Good morning, everyone. 5 Thank you so much for granting us the opportunity to present 6 our ideas to you today about our solution to an issue that is 7 extremely close to all of our hearts. We're thrilled at the 8 prospect of turning our program into a reality. We are 9 students from Tivy High School, as well as members of the 10 Peers Assistance Leadership club, or PAL club, Interact club 11 and also National Honor Society. I'm Anna Beth Burniston. 12 MS. MARGARET BURNISTON: And I'm Margaret 13 Burniston. 14 MR. YOUNG: I'm Isaiah Young. 15 MR. SCHLECHTE: And I'm Mason Schlechte. 16 MR. YOUNG: Our goal is to create a program that 17 promotes adoption and to spay and neuter animals that have 18 been abandoned or brought to the Kerr County Animal Services 19 facility on Loop 534. We hope to significantly increase the 20 number of adoptions and reduce the number of animals that 21 must be euthanized by raising awareness and involving the 22 rest of the Kerr County community. With the help of trained 23 local volunteers and high school students, we will transport 24 dogs from the Animal Services facility to the Louise Hays 25 Park. We'll then walk the animals along the river trail and 11-23-15 13 1 introduce them to people, and attempt to get them adopted. 2 This program has already gained financial sponsorship from 3 several local businesses, and we hope to increase our funding 4 through other donations obtained throughout the program. In 5 the future, we hope to incorporate feline adoptions into our 6 current program; however, current barriers prevent us from 7 doing that. In the meantime, we'll promote both cats and 8 dogs on the social media websites, as well as around our high 9 school. The problem is, cats don't really like to be walked 10 around the river trail. (Laughter.) 11 Our financial funding will be provided by local 12 business sponsorships, as well as personal donations. 13 Several businesses have already offered to sponsor our 14 program, including McBryde Oil Company and Young's Guns and 15 Jewelry. We expect more sponsors throughout the future of 16 Bark in the Park. So, currently, it's between 25 and 30 17 animals are adopted from the shelter per month, and about 200 18 are impounded a month, so you can see the percentage is not 19 very good. We want to get that percentage up. In the first 20 month, we hope to increase the amount of dogs adopted from 20 21 to 25, and cats from 8 to 10. Our long-term goals, in about 22 three to four months, we hope to be adopting out 40 dogs per 23 month and 20 cats per month, and that's out of 200. And if 24 we can get the percentage from 25 up to 50, up to 60 within 25 the next year, two years, that would be great, and that's our 11-23-15 14 1 goal. 2 MS. MARGARET BURNISTON: Okay. Well, due to 3 technical difficulties, we will not able to have the Power 4 Point up there, so we're just going to have to have it here. 5 I'm sorry. 6 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: This year, nearly 2,000 7 animals -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wait. Wait. 9 MR. TOLL: I did come with a laptop if you want me 10 to try to get that on for you. 11 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Thank you. 12 (Low-voice discussion off the record.) 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do you work for us? 14 (Laughter.) 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: While he's doing that, how 16 many students are -- are participating in this with you? 17 MR. SCHLECHTE: We already have -- we have five 18 people that are working on getting it started, but we already 19 have about 10 people outside of us five that started it that 20 are saying that they're willing to volunteer. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's my -- 22 MR. SCHLECHTE: We have a lot more programs, like 23 there's PALs and N.H.S. and Interact Club, and, like, sports 24 teams and stuff. All these people need community service 25 hours. 11-23-15 15 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 2 MR. SCHLECHTE: And they can use this for community 3 service hours. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, fantastic. 5 MR. SCHLECHTE: That they are willing to come and 6 help us with that. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And while he's fixing that, 8 let me comment on one other thing. You see so much in the 9 news about students, you know, your age that are doing bad 10 things. You don't see a lot in the news media about this 11 kind of thing, so I commend you for this. This is absolutely 12 fantastic. 13 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Thank you so much. 14 MR. YOUNG: Thank you. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Commissioner, by that same 16 token, I only got to meet them this morning, but Ray patched 17 them through with a conference call on Friday, and I was just 18 taken aback at the professionalism and the commitment that 19 these people are bringing out for this project. I just -- 20 like you said, you don't hear a lot of the good things, the 21 good -- the good people and the good young people. Here's an 22 example of them, and I think the teachers, the parents, and 23 everybody else should be complimented on what's going on 24 here, especially these people up here. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Absolutely. 11-23-15 16 1 (Low-voice discussion off the record.) 2 MR. YOUNG: We apologize for the technical 3 difficulties. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Another question while you're 5 doing that, if that will take some time. 6 MR. YOUNG: Yes. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is this set up as a 8 not-for-profit organization so that people make the donation, 9 and it will -- 10 MR. YOUNG: Yes. Yes, sir. Any proceeds that flow 11 over, apart from paying for the T-shirts and the vests for 12 the dogs, will go directly to the facility on Loop 534. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. Well, that goes 14 into county funds? 15 MR. YOUNG: Yes, sir. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 17 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Should we just show it on 18 the computer? 19 MR. TOLL: That'll probably be best. 20 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: We apologize again. 21 MR. SCHLECHTE: Computers are apparently not 22 working with us this morning. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. That happens. 24 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Thank you for trying. 25 (Low-voice discussion off the record.) 11-23-15 17 1 MR. SCHLECHTE: If y'all want to look at this, you 2 can just click through it as we go through it. Just hold 3 this between y'all. Just click the arrow keys down; it will 4 go to the next slide. 5 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Just in 2015, nearly 6 2,000 animals have been brought into the Kerr County Animal 7 Services facility, and only 403 were adopted. This means 8 that 1,370 animals had to be euthanized due to limited space 9 in the shelter. The main source of the problem is 10 irresponsible pet ownership. People often buy puppies from 11 breeders or receive them as gifts without realizing the 12 responsibility and commitment required of them. They fail to 13 get their dogs spayed or neutered, which leads to excessive 14 breeding and adds to the issue of overpopulation. This 15 decreases the chances of dogs in the shelter from being 16 adopted. Also, many rescue shelters take animals from 17 out-of-county shelters rather than from Kerr County Animal 18 Services, which leaves an overwhelming number of animals in 19 our shelter. 20 MS. MARGARET BURNISTON: Okay. As Anna Beth and 21 Mason already touched on, we are Tivy students. We are 22 affiliated with various programs; the Tivy Peer Assistance 23 and Leadership program, Interact, and National Honor Society. 24 Because of these affiliations, we have a constant supply of 25 volunteers willing to work with us on this program and help 11-23-15 18 1 walk the animals around. We also currently are in the 2 process of being sponsored by National Honor Society, which 3 should increase our credibility, and again further instill 4 our supply of volunteers. We want to start this program 5 because every day we see these issues that Anna Beth was 6 speaking of in our community, whether it be friends or family 7 members buying pets rather than adopting, or pet owners 8 refraining from spaying or neutering their pets, and 9 consequently having litters of free puppies, while those in 10 the shelter suffer. Our proposed solution to this problem is 11 increased visibility through placing pets in an environment 12 where they act and look just like every other dog, rather 13 than how they may sometimes appear at a shelter as barking 14 and confrontational. We believe this will increase the 15 adoptions, and therefore decrease the euthanasia rate. A 16 similar program has already been successful in Austin, and 17 leadership of Austin -- Austin Pets Alive, wherein they 18 introduce pets to the community, and over the course of five 19 years, they actually saw 30,000 cats and dogs -- over 30,000 20 cats and dogs saved. 21 MR. SCHLECHTE: So, basically, our general 22 procedure for what we're going to be doing every day is that, 23 first of all, all the volunteers that are going to help that 24 day are going to arrive at the Animal Services facility, the 25 shelter over on Loop 534, at about 4 p.m. on weekdays and 11-23-15 19 1 10 a.m. on the weekends. All of the cofounders present, 2 which is us, we're going to teach a little kind of training 3 thing that we've already been taught by the staff at the 4 facility, which goes over things as important as what to do 5 in an emergency to things just as simple as how to act when 6 you're when around the dogs and things like that. Then we'll 7 bring out the dogs, which is usually going to be around 5 to 8 10 dogs that have been preselected by the facility, and 9 they're going to be brought outside and put in these little 10 blue "Adopt Me" vests that you can actually -- we have a 11 little model one right over here on Fiona. She was a shelter 12 dog that was adopted by the Burnistons about five years ago. 13 So, they're going to be walking around the park in 14 that, and so we're going to put them in those, and then put 15 them on leashes and load them into kennels that are in the 16 back of some of the volunteers' cars and trucks, stuff like 17 that. Drive them over to the park, unload them, and once 18 unloaded, the volunteers are going to divide up into groups 19 of two people per one dog. They're going to get that dog, 20 and they're going to walk him up and down the river trail. 21 And whenever they see people that seem slightly interested, 22 they're going to introduce them to him, kind of try and make 23 a sale. But while doing this, we're also going to talk to 24 them about responsible pet ownership. We're going to have 25 little pamphlets that are kind of like the ones we put in 11-23-15 20 1 front of you today, but a lot more information on them about 2 actually raising the animals and the responsibilities that it 3 takes and all those things like that. 4 And if they are extremely interested and want to 5 adopt, we're going to give them a little business card that 6 has the animal's name on it and where the facility is and 7 stuff like that, and they can go give the staff that card, 8 and then they'll bring them the dog. And if they're unsure 9 if they really want to adopt, we're going to explain to them 10 programs such as the Family Fit program, where they can take 11 the dog home for two weeks at no cost, just to see, like, how 12 it fits in with their lives and everything like that, and see 13 if they'd love to adopt it, or the foster program where they 14 can take a dog and promise to care for it until they can find 15 a permanent home for it. And then at the end of the day, 16 obviously, just take the dogs back to the shelter, do it all 17 over again. 18 MS. MARGARET BURNISTON: One of the main goals is 19 to promote responsible pet ownership, as well as spaying and 20 neutering your pets. As Mason said, we hope to accomplish 21 this while we're walking these dogs, passing out these 22 pamphlets, and these pamphlets will describe the commitments 23 and responsibilities of being a pet owner, as well as 24 detailing the issue that -- the issues that we have 25 discussed, such as overpopulation and the benefits of spaying 11-23-15 21 1 and neutering your pets. Because it is also a problem that 2 people often take on pets without fully understanding the 3 full scope of responsibilities involved in owning a pet. We 4 plan on emphasizing the Family Fit program and the fostering 5 program as well. 6 MR. YOUNG: When we increase the adoption rates, 7 we're going to decrease the euthanasia rates. That's 8 obviously going to -- and that's our goal, and that's what 9 we're going to do. We're going to increase the adoptions, 10 and we're going to reduce the amount of dogs that have to be 11 killed because of overpopulation. 12 MR. SCHLECHTE: As Anna Beth briefly mentioned 13 earlier, one of the issues with this -- or with the 14 status-quo is that many of the shelters around here, they go 15 out of our county to find dogs that they deem more adoptable, 16 which is usually more attractive, or just younger dogs. This 17 results in an influx of animals into our community, and we 18 hardly have enough resources to take care of the animals that 19 are already here. So, if any of those animals get lost, like 20 they get out or anything like that, it puts so much drain on 21 our shelter, then we end up having to put down dogs that are 22 already in our county because of another county's problems, 23 and our taxpayers actually end up paying for the problems of 24 another county instead of just taking care of what we have 25 right here. So, we're going to try and encourage all these 11-23-15 22 1 local shelters -- we're going to raise awareness in the 2 public and help the public to go in, encourage these people 3 to come take the animals we have in the shelter right now, 4 and try and adopt those out before going out of county to 5 find other dogs. And then also, obviously, animal 6 overpopulation is a large deal, because we have a limited 7 amount of space in our shelter, so the more animals that 8 are -- that are out there, the more we have to put down. So, 9 we're going to raise awareness of about animal overpopulation 10 and how that hurts our communities. 11 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: And also, while we're 12 walking the dogs along the river trial, we want to promote 13 kind treatment of animals through our conversations with the 14 community members that we speak to, and also by handing out 15 pamphlets in the park with information regarding this, and 16 posting on social media sites so that we can broaden our 17 reach. Additionally, one of our main goals of this program 18 is to alter the way the public views these shelter animals. 19 We want to show them that these are not bad dogs, but rather 20 sweet and loving animals who just need forever homes. 21 MR. YOUNG: One of the most important resources we 22 need is funding from local businesses to cover the cost of 23 the T-shirts and the vests, as well as vaccinations and other 24 health procedures for the animals. This will also give the 25 county an opportunity to unite through a common cause and 11-23-15 23 1 change the perception of Kerr County to residents and 2 outsiders alike. This also bonds the community, because the 3 local businesses are getting involved with a cause that 4 really matters, saving the animals. 5 MR. SCHLECHTE: And, of course, the safety of our 6 community is of paramount importance to us, and we realize 7 that if something goes wrong with this, not only could it 8 cast a shadow on our community and/or program; it could 9 actually lessen the community's view of pound animals, making 10 it worse instead of better, which we want to prevent this. 11 We're going to take a lot of steps to insure the safety, such 12 as only selecting low-risk dogs selected by the shelter, 13 which means that dogs that are relatively easy to control and 14 not prone to violence or anything like that. We're also 15 going to have -- like I said, we're going to have training 16 and orientation for all the volunteers every day that comes, 17 just little things that will help them know how to handle the 18 dogs, know how to handle emergencies. And then we also have 19 a two volunteers per one dog policy. This means that one 20 person is going to be able to concentrate full-heartedly on 21 walking the dog and controlling the dog and everything like 22 that, while the other person is talking to people and 23 providing information to those people and stuff like that. 24 So, that -- that way we don't have someone whose attention is 25 divided and not realizing that the dog is getting loose or 11-23-15 24 1 something like that. And then also, if something does go 2 wrong, we have another person there ready to detain the dog. 3 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: And another essential 4 aspect of our program will be promoting the adoption of these 5 animals by posting photos, videos, and information about the 6 animals on social media sites, as well as information 7 regarding responsible pet ownership and volunteer 8 opportunities. 9 MS. MARGARET BURNISTON: To us, Bark in the Park is 10 not a one-year project. We hope when we return to Kerrville 11 in many years to come, we can still find the shelter dogs 12 being walked down by the river. For Mason, Anna Beth, and 13 Isaiah, a shorter scale; this will be true for next year. 14 While they will all be leaving for college, I will remain 15 here next year and be able to take over the program when they 16 no longer can. We will also be looking for committed and 17 passionate young upper -- young lower classmen who are going 18 to be rising upper classmen to take over the program for us 19 later. As I mentioned, we are involved with many 20 organizations, and as long as Tivy has these organizations, 21 we believe we'll always have a constant supply of volunteers, 22 as well as committed members of the community who want to 23 help. 24 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: And here we have photos 25 of animals that my family has adopted from shelters over the 11-23-15 25 1 years, who perfectly exemplify the kind of adoptable animals 2 in the shelter today that can be amazing pets for so many 3 people. We believe every dog and cat deserves a chance at a 4 happy life and loving family, and with Bark in the Park, we 5 hope to be able to give a voice to those who cannot speak for 6 themselves, and to give each and every animal a second 7 chance. Thank you. 8 MR. YOUNG: Thank you. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: One question. If you -- 10 (Applause.) 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Where does a person make a 12 donation? 13 MR. SCHLECHTE: They can make donations to us when 14 we're, like, walking the animals at the park. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But if somebody wants to mail 16 you a donation? 17 MR. SCHLECHTE: They can mail it to the facility on 18 Loop 534. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So, they can get it to 20 Ray's operation. 21 MR. SCHLECHTE: Yes, sir. 22 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Yes, sir. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And just say "Bark in the 24 Park" on the check? 25 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Yes, sir. 11-23-15 26 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Payable to Kerr County. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or is it payable to Bark in 4 the Park? 5 MR. YOUNG: Kerr County. Kerr County, probably. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. Yeah. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, sir? 9 AUDIENCE: Do you think there's a printing company 10 here in town that would be willing to print up some donation 11 envelopes with information on them that they can hand out in 12 the park? 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Very good. Thank you, sir. Thank 14 you all very much. Obviously, a lot of thought and effort 15 in -- you've put into this matter. You're to be commended 16 for that. Thank you very much. Let's have a hand for them. 17 (Applause.) 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a motion? 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I believe Mr. Garcia has a 20 resolution he'd like to read into the record, Judge. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. That's theirs? 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 23 MR. GARCIA: I'd like to read the proposed 24 resolution that I did not write, that Rosa Lavender wrote, on 25 very short notice. 11-23-15 27 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I've informed the students of 2 the importance of former government teachers in writing 3 resolutions, and they remember that. 4 MR. GARCIA: Thank you, Rosa. It was flash drive 5 short notice. Like that, she had it. So, I will read the 6 resolution. Whereas, Kerr County Environmental Health and 7 Animal Services has partnered with Tivy High School's Peer 8 Assistance Leadership, PAL program, and National Honor 9 Society program, and the students in those programs to 10 develop and implement a plan to promote animal adoptions from 11 Kerr County Animal Services; and whereas, the goal of the 12 program is to promote adoptions, spay or neutering, and 13 vaccinating animals that have been abandoned or brought to 14 Kerr County Animal Services facility; and whereas, the 15 proposed plan will significantly increase adoptions and 16 reduce the number of animals that must be euthanized by 17 raising awareness and involving the rest of Kerr County -- of 18 the Kerrville community; and whereas, with the help of 19 trained volunteers and high school students, dogs will be 20 transported from Animal Services facility to the Louise Hays 21 Park, and the students will then walk the animals along the 22 river trail and introduce them to people in an attempt to get 23 them adopted; and whereas, the program has already gained 24 financial support from several local businesses, and hopes to 25 increase funding through other donations which will allow us 11-23-15 28 1 in the future to incorporate a feline adoption plan into the 2 program; so, therefore, be it resolved that the Kerr County 3 Commissioners Court hereby authorizes the Kerr County 4 Environmental Health and Animal Services to develop and 5 implement this plan with the Tivy PAL and National Honor 6 Society students. Adopted this 23rd day of November, 2015. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Move to adopt the resolution 8 as read into the record. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded that 11 the resolution as read into the record be adopted. Is there 12 any further discussion? 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have one question. Is it 14 true that Tivy fight never dies? (Laughter.) 15 MR. SCHLECHTE: Yes, sir. 16 MS. ANNA BETH BURNISTON: Yes, sir. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion? 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, sir. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Those in favor of the 20 motion, signify by raising your right hand. 21 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good job. 24 (Applause.) 25 JUDGE POLLARD: And it's signed. 11-23-15 29 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's got to go to the clerk. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: It has to go to the clerk, but I 3 just wanted to exhibit that we've signed it. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Ray, why don't you get the four 5 students to stand with you up in the front right up here and 6 get a picture? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: With the dog. 8 MR. GARCIA: Right up here. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You get in the middle, Ray. 10 (Discussion off the record.) 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's great. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you very much. 13 MR. GARCIA: Thank you. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Item 1.3 on the agenda 15 is consider, discuss, and take appropriate action on request 16 to use the Kerr County Courthouse square for the annual 17 Cowboy Breakfast on January 15, 2016. Mr. Talarico. 18 MR. TALARICO: Yes, sir. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: How do you follow that one, 20 Jeff? 21 MR. TALARICO: Follow those kids? I didn't bring a 22 Power Point. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Okay. 24 MR. TALARICO: I'd put it in writing, but Buster 25 couldn't read it, so we got to go from there. I'm here on 11-23-15 30 1 behalf of the Kerrville Area Chamber of Commerce and the Hill 2 Country District Junior Livestock Show Association, 3 requesting to use the courthouse grounds again for the annual 4 Cowboy Breakfast that will kick off our Stock Show week on 5 Friday, January 15th. We'd like to use the grounds again 6 from approximately 4:30 a.m., when they start to cook, till 7 about 8 a.m. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second -- third. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded, and 12 thirded. 13 MR. TALARICO: And thirded. And I would make note, 14 before you vote on this, this is -- I understand this is 15 Buster's last time to throw the bull, so... (Laughter.) 16 MR. BOLLIER: No, he'll have to be dead and gone 17 for that. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, this is it. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's all the more reason to 20 pass it. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That sounds like a bunch of 22 bull in here to me. 23 MR. BOLLIER: We love you, Buster. You know that. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: This is going to be my last 25 time to win it? 11-23-15 31 1 MR. TALARICO: I don't know. Are you running 2 again? I thought you said you weren't. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, he's talking about winning 4 the toss contest. Not -- Jeff, don't encourage him. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Hey, I could run again. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further discussion or 8 comments -- other comments? Other than throwing stuff? 9 (Laughter.) There being none, those in favor of the motion, 10 signify by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 13 MR. TALARICO: Gentlemen, thank you. We'll see you 14 in January. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: 1.4 on the agenda, and we're past 16 9:05 a.m. Consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for 17 the Court to accept preliminary revision of plat for Lot 61 18 of Spicer Ranch Number 3, Volume 3, Page 85, and set a public 19 hearing. Mr. Hastings. 20 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. Linda and B.L. Simmons 21 own Lot 55, 8.11 acres, and 56, 10.22 acres, of Bear Creek 22 Ranch, and Kevin Bruce, the executor of the Estate of Mary 23 Bruce, owns Lot 7. He's got 12.65 acres. The Simmons would 24 like to combine Lot 55 and 56 -- 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Charlie? That's not what I 11-23-15 32 1 have. 2 AUDIENCE: 1.4. 3 MS. STEBBINS: You're doing the next item. 4 MR. HASTINGS: Am I on the wrong item? 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: You're on 5; should be 4. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you, Buster. I was 7 getting -- I just can't find those lots. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, I hate to admit it, 9 'cause everybody looks at me like I'm real -- 10 MR. HASTINGS: I apologize. All right. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's all right. First 12 mistake you've made all year. 13 MR. HASTINGS: I don't know about that. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Or is it the second? 15 MR. HASTINGS: Okay, Spicer Ranch. I apologize. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: First, not the last. 17 MR. HASTINGS: My bad. Mr. Jack D. Masor owns Lot 18 1616 Spicer Ranch Number 3. Mr. Masor would like to divide 19 Lot 161 into proposed Lots 161-A, 5.02 acres, and Lot 161-B, 20 3 acres. Spicer Ranch Number 3 is served by a community 21 water system and septic system. Lot 161-A has road frontage 22 to Pal Drive, public access that's County-maintained, and 23 Mark Drive, public access that's privately maintained. Lot 24 161-B has frontage to Mark Drive that's public access, 25 privately maintained. At this time, we're asking the Court 11-23-15 33 1 to accept the preliminary revision of plat for Lot 161 of 2 Spicer Ranch Number 3, Volume 3, Page 85, and set a public 3 hearing for Monday, December 28th, at 9:15 a.m., Precinct 1. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Anybody have any problems 5 with it? 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hmm-mm. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 10 seconded for approval of Item 1.4 on the agenda, approval of 11 that to accept the preliminary revision of plat for Lot 116 12 of Spicer Ranch Number 3, Volume 3, Page 85, and set a public 13 hearing. Just a question I have on it. From 161-B being 14 3 acres, would there be any -- if that were planned to be a 15 separate residence on that, about septic tanks or water 16 regulations, is that substandard size, or is it going to be 17 sufficient? 18 MR. HASTINGS: Three acres is -- the minimum is one 19 if it's got a water system. And -- 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, it has a water system? 21 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. So he's well within -- 22 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any other questions? 23 There being none, those in favor of the motion, signify by 24 raising your right hand. 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11-23-15 34 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 2 1.5; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action for the 3 Court to accept the preliminary revision of plat for tracts 4 55, 56, and part of 57, of Bear Creek Ranch, Volume 3, Page 5 114, and set a public hearing. Mr. Hastings. 6 MR. HASTINGS: Okay thank you. Linda and B.L. 7 Simmons own Lot 55, 8.11 acres, and 56, 10.22 acres, of the 8 Bear Creek Ranch, and Kevin Bruce, executor of the Estate of 9 Mary Bruce, owns Lot 57, 12.65 acres. The Simmons would like 10 to combine Lots 55 and 56 and part of 57, making Lot 55R, 11 25.98 acres. The remainder of Lot 57 will be 5.01 acres, 12 making Lot 57R. Commissioner Baldwin has approved the 13 alternate plat process for this plat. At this time, we're 14 asking the Court to accept preliminary revision of plat for 15 Tracts 55, 56, and part of 57 of Bear Creek Ranch, Volume 3, 16 Page 114, and set a public hearing for Monday, December 28th, 17 2015, at 9:25 a.m., Precinct 1. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The question I have is this 19 little corner that goes to -- that Carlos Chapa, III, and 20 wife owns, how did that get taken out of Lot 57 earlier? 21 Looks like it was taken out of the subdivision, almost. 22 MR. HASTINGS: Yeah, I don't -- I don't know, but 23 my guess is that it was done from one property owner to 24 another to resolve a driveway issue, so that they could have 25 access to a driveway. I don't believe it was done through 11-23-15 35 1 the platting process. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is it in the subdivision now, 3 that little piece? It looks like -- 4 MR. HASTINGS: It was originally part of Lot 57. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- it's not. But is the 6 property to the -- 7 MR. HASTINGS: He no longer owns it, that little 8 corner. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 10 MR. HASTINGS: He no -- they no longer own it. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: What I'm asking is, does this 12 revise the subdivision boundary? The -- it looks like that 13 little tract goes to the property owner up through the -- I 14 guess that's north or northwest. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Northwest. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And does this revise the 17 subdivision boundary by doing this? It's more of a technical 18 question. I mean, I have no problem with them doing this. 19 It's just a question that it looks like we have a subdivision 20 plat that doesn't line up with who owns what now. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: What you're asking is the 22 0.139 acres, is still part of Bear Creek Ranch or not? 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Is that your question? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. And if it's not, I 11-23-15 36 1 think it can be done at this time. But if it's not part of 2 the subdivision, we should take it out, or point out that 3 it's been -- that this revision is also modifying the 4 boundary of the subdivision. 5 MR. HASTINGS: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You could do that in the 7 public hearing. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it can be done at the 9 same time, but it's just a matter of -- looks like we have a 10 plat that's not accurate. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: I don't see Mr. Ashley here to 12 answer these questions. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know this can be resolved, 14 Charlie, you know, between now and the public hearing and -- 15 and final plat. It's just -- 16 MR. HASTINGS: Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- if it's not part of the 18 subdivision, we ought to take it out of the subdivision. And 19 if it is part of the subdivision, I guess you can make it Lot 20 57X and just make it a non-buildable lot. And that's the 21 other option on how to do it. But it's a loose end. 22 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are you going to contact 24 Mr. Ashley and -- 25 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, I will contact Mr. Ashley and 11-23-15 37 1 see if we can get this resolved, and I think I'll probably 2 get with Heather also. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, okay. But no problems 4 with what they're trying to do. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Did you say the public hearing 6 on December the 28th? Is that what you said? 7 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We have Commissioners Court on 9 December 28th? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We've already approved another 11 public hearing on that same -- 12 MR. HASTINGS: We've got several that day. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Which we should not have 14 done, but we did. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That was my only drawback on 17 this whole thing, is setting these things up for the public 18 of the county to come in while they're in Arkansas with 19 granny having Christmas. Doesn't make any sense to me, but 20 whatever. I move for approval. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded for 23 approval of Item 1.5 on the agenda; that is to accept the 24 preliminary revision of plat for Tracts 55, 56, and part of 25 57 for Bear Creek Ranch, Volume 3, Page 114, and set a public 11-23-15 38 1 hearing for December the 28th, 2015. Is that correct? 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there any further discussion? 4 There being none, those in favor, signify by raising your 5 right hand. 6 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 7 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. All right. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Do try to get that straightened 9 out before that public hearing, too, Charlie. 10 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: By talking to Ashley. All right. 12 Item 1.6; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 13 approve contract with Republic Services and to authorize the 14 Judge to sign the same. Mr. Bollier. 15 MR. BOLLIER: Good morning, sir. Good morning, 16 Commissioners. Republic Services has bought out Dumpster 17 Dumpers; they are taking over. We have a -- we have worked 18 out a three-year deal with them. No prices change. No more 19 money, no less; it's the same amount for the courthouse 20 dumpster. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Is that the Fritz's that owned it? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 25 MR. BOLLIER: And my -- and it takes care of the 11-23-15 39 1 courthouse -- my part, the courthouse, the ag building -- the 2 Ag Barn, and also I've taken Jason's too for out at juvenile. 3 He'll still pay for it, but no money has changed. No more 4 money, no more anything. So, my recommendation is -- my 5 recommendation is to stay like we are. I have talked to our 6 County Attorney, Heather Stebbins, and she has okayed it. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So it's just a name change. 8 MR. BOLLIER: Sir? 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's just a name change. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Changing ownership. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Change of ownership. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's what I'm saying. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Extension of contract, no 14 change in dollars or service, and I believe a three-year 15 commitment at that price. 16 MS. JONES: It's guaranteed, a three-year 17 commitment at no price increase during those three years. 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Move for approval. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there any further discussion? 21 Yes? 22 MS. JONES: I'd like to thank you all for the 23 opportunity to work with you. I'm here for you if you need 24 anything whatsoever, and I appreciate the opportunity very 25 much. 11-23-15 40 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Can we have your name for the 2 record, please? 3 MS. JONES: I'm sorry? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Your name? 5 MS. JONES: Oh, that would help, wouldn't it? 6 Sherri Jones, Republic Services. Kerrville, Texas resident 7 for 19 years. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. Thank you. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes? 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Only question I have, should 12 we be looking at the contract out at the law enforcement 13 facility at the same time? 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: They have other ones too, 15 Sheriff, I believe at the -- need to get with Ms. Jones with 16 the Sheriff's Department, and I believe Road and Bridge. But 17 these were just what Tim was over, and -- and Jason's. 18 MS. JONES: Yes, sir. 19 MR. BOLLIER: I think Ms. Jones said it would all 20 stay the same. 21 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Kind of like the copiers at 22 one time; it may be better to group everything. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: A question. Are we midterm in the 24 contract with the previous owner? 25 MS. STEBBINS: Sorry, what was the question? 11-23-15 41 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Are we in the middle of the term of 2 the contract with the previous owner? 3 MS. STEBBINS: No. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We're under contract, right? 5 MS. STEBBINS: We are under contract with the 6 previous owner. Well -- 7 JUDGE POLLARD: So, it's going to take -- it's 8 going to take a termination of the existing contract and 9 execution of a new contract with a three-year primary term. 10 MS. STEBBINS: Yes. 11 MS. JONES: That's correct. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: I understand that that's what's 13 going to have to have happen, so it's more than one document 14 that I'll have to sign. 15 MS. STEBBINS: It's several documents. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay? All right. Any further 17 discussion? There being none, those in favor, signify by 18 raising your right hand. 19 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 20 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you, 21 ma'am, and Tim. 22 MR. BOLLIER: Thank you, sir. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: 1.7; progress report from the 24 recent audit of the Kerr County Juvenile Detention Center. 25 Mr. Davis. 11-23-15 42 1 MR. DAVIS: Morning, Judge, Commissioners. I will 2 -- 1.7 and 1.8 apply to each other. 1.7 is the explanation, 3 progress report, and 1.8 is the action item. On 1.7, at the 4 end of October, T.J.J.D., Texas Juvenile Justice Department, 5 had two of the auditors come in, as they do every year about 6 that same time. They completed the audit. There are two 7 tracks of the audit. One is for more of the 8 employment/certification type of -- H.R. type of issues, 9 training, those types of things. The other is more on the 10 facility operations and what goes on actually in the 11 building. On the employment section, there were -- and I 12 have the reports here. One is 59 pages. The other one's 13 about seven pages. On the employment section, and 14 certification section, there were zero noncompliances, which 15 means we had everything -- we scored perfectly on everything 16 there. And in the larger portion, which is the -- on the 17 facility operations, there were five noncompliances. 18 And just to put that in perspective, there are over 19 200 standards at which we're audited. Last year we had 17 20 noncompliances. This year we had five noncompliances. I was 21 extremely, extremely pleased with the results, as I hope you 22 will be. The facility staff had worked diligently. The 23 response and the comments from the auditors were glowing. 24 During our exit interviews, the support that we had from 25 the -- Tim especially, and his folks, but from many people 11-23-15 43 1 during the audit other than Tim. Rusty and his folks were 2 very great to help us out. The fire marshal actually -- as 3 far as for our certification, they helped us earlier on in 4 the process. There was a very large effort in the success -- 5 in what I consider the great success of the audit. I would 6 be happy to go through all of this as you like and answer any 7 questions about anything, but I just -- I did want to present 8 this. I don't know that it's been formally presented to the 9 Court in the past, but I think it's the appropriate thing to 10 do. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Were those the same two that were 12 here last year? 13 MR. DAVIS: One of the gentlemen was the same. 14 Caleb Walker was the same. We had another gentleman there 15 that was here two years ago in the building audit, and he 16 said that they were very excited with the mood and affect of 17 the kids, the care of the kids. The cleanliness of the 18 building was something that he had not seen before. The 19 comment that he made was, "This is night and day difference 20 over what I saw two years ago." And there are 51 facilities 21 like ours in the state. He goes, "Listen, when we go, we get 22 complaints from the kids" -- which they interview all of the 23 children; they talk to them all. He goes, "We get complaints 24 that are legitimate and real in other facilities. We come 25 here and they're not happy about having peanut butter and 11-23-15 44 1 jelly every other day." He goes, "It's a much lighter 2 complaint." You have complaints that are -- but he said, 3 "Overall, this is the type of facility you want to walk into, 4 just because" -- he goes, "You can tell by the mood of the 5 kids. The kids you're dealing with are well cared for." So, 6 we were very proud of that, very proud of our facility staff 7 and all of our support from other county agencies as well. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: So, you got an A-plus. 9 MR. DAVIS: I would say -- they don't do scores, 10 but if they were, yes, sir, I think that we would probably -- 11 it's weighted, but the five things that were weighted were 12 not that -- they weren't the really bad ones that you -- if 13 you've got to miss some things, these are things we we're 14 okay missing. We missed, I think, one or two generator tests 15 throughout the year. We had one child who was missing one 16 sheet. He had sheets and blankets, but they're supposed to 17 have two sheets, so pretty minor things compared to -- 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Congratulations. 19 MR. DAVIS: Thank you all for your support. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: They run a tight ship. They really 21 do. All right, thank you very much. All right, you want to 22 go to Item 1.9 -- or I guess 1.8; consider, discuss, and take 23 appropriate action on revision of the Kerr County Juvenile 24 Detention Facility Policy and Procedures Manual. Mr. Davis. 25 MR. DAVIS: In connection with this audit, there 11-23-15 45 1 were numerous recommendations made by the auditors. These 2 are all adaption of -- these are all modifications of current 3 policy/procedure that's before this Court, with the exception 4 of this, which is a non-fire emergency evacuation -- non-fire 5 facility emergency operations plan. Took me a second. This 6 is a new policy; this is not a change. This is completely 7 new. The County Attorney has reviewed all of these. This is 8 actually Galveston County's policy that we adapted for our 9 own. T.J.J.D. recommended to us -- said we don't have to 10 have this now. They're going to require it next year. We're 11 putting it in place now. The County Attorney has reviewed 12 all of these, plus all of the changes I have that are -- I 13 have them available. We discussed it, but most of them are 14 changes in forms. We had to add language here, change some 15 language there. There's nothing substantive in these that 16 are changes to the current policies and procedures. This is 17 new and substantive, but it doesn't cause us any heartburn at 18 all. Basically, if we have a non-fire emergency, what would 19 we do with the children which we already have in place? 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Let me ask, Jason, you're asking 21 for approval of the revision? Or are you saying that you're 22 going to have to make further revisions before we can approve 23 it? 24 MR. DAVIS: No, sir. No, asking for approval of 25 these revisions that have been approved by the County 11-23-15 46 1 Attorney's office. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 3 MR. DAVIS: And recommended by T.J.J.D. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And you're asking us to do 6 that? 7 MR. DAVIS: Yes, sir. I'm asking -- 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I so move. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the -- 11 that we approve the revisions -- suggested revisions to the 12 Kerr County Juvenile Detention Facility Policies and 13 Procedures Manual set forth in Item 1.8 on the agenda. Is 14 there any further discussion or comments? There being none, 15 those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 16 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 17 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you, 18 Jason, for all of your good work. 19 MR. DAVIS: Appreciate you. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: And all of your staff's good work. 21 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: And Tim and the fire marshal, 23 everybody that helped, all the supporting staff. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Bark for Life. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, there's been a request 11-23-15 47 1 that we take out of order 1.11; consider, discuss, and take 2 appropriate action regarding the basic plan for emergency 3 management, and authorize County Judge to sign same. There 4 is some urgency to that. We have the Fire Chief here. 5 Welcome. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And City Council. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: And the City Council lady too, and 8 we appreciate you being here. And Sheriff Hierholzer. 9 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: First thing I'd like to say 10 is, I think all of us owe Tony Leonard an enormous thank-you 11 for his diligence and hard work on this plan. It's a 1,000 12 percent improvement over what we've ever had in the past for 13 this county, for the joint city and county, and how Tony 14 could go through and get this thing worked out as well as he 15 has. It is a living document. There will always be little 16 updates and upgrades on it. But since we haven't quite 17 gotten our county -- emergency county coordinator on board -- 18 he will be on board before the end of this week, but this 19 plan has to be in to Austin by December, I think, 13th, isn't 20 it? 21 CHIEF SMITH: 13th. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: 13th. And so Tony's been 23 working on it by himself with all the players involved. He's 24 listened to a lot of ideas Moser had, I had, all the 25 different fire departments, everybody's had, and he came up 11-23-15 48 1 with this plan. I've reviewed it, and I think it is by far 2 the plan this county needs to go with, and in conjunction 3 with the city of Kerrville and city of Ingram. And I would 4 just want to -- Tony is, I think, also foreman of our current 5 grand jury, so he's actually upstairs in grand jury this 6 morning, and the Fire Chief is down here with him. But I 7 would definitely recommend that the County approve this 8 portion of this plan so we can move forward, and thank Tony 9 for his hard work. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me add to what he said, 11 too. This is a huge improvement. I think it was a year ago, 12 Judge, we met with Ingram and City of Kerrville and the 13 County, and identified some areas to be improved. And I 14 couldn't say any stronger -- more strongly than what the 15 Sheriff did about what Tony Lenard has done with that. It's 16 a huge improvement. There are a lot of additional resources 17 that have been identified that the County can bring to bear 18 in an emergency. It's -- the basic plan has been changed now 19 to incorporate the county emergency management coordinator 20 working with the city emergency management coordinator. This 21 community is in a lot better shape, and thanks to Danny Smith 22 and Tony and the City Council, and for doing what they've 23 done. So, it's -- it's a big improvement, and I think we're 24 in better shape. We're probably at higher risk now with -- 25 with an emergency with fire and flood and terrorist kind of 11-23-15 49 1 things. I think we're well prepared, and volunteer fire 2 departments are in the loop more than they were. So, 3 congratulations to everybody. 4 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The last thing I'd like to 5 say, this is the basic plan, but then attached to this has to 6 be all the annexes. And I think right now, there's 26 7 annexes which Tony's been working on constantly. And the -- 8 just to give you a scope of the idea, once you put the basic 9 plan with the annexes attached, the plan is about that thick 10 if you print it. It is an enormous amount of -- of work, and 11 constant updating and dates and players and that. And I'm 12 just -- you know, I just -- I really think we need to thank 13 Tony for all the work he's done on this plan, getting it 14 where all the entities can agree on it and that it can be a 15 plan we can move forward on. Thank you. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I move that we adopt the basic 17 plan for the emergency management for Kerr County, city of 18 Kerrville, and the city of Ingram, and authorize the Judge to 19 sign. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 22 adopt the emergency management plan for County of Kerr, City 23 of Kerrville, and the City of Ingram, and authorize the 24 County Judge to sign same. 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Probably should say the basic 11-23-15 50 1 plan. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: The basic plan. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I did say basic plan. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, and it's in the agenda item 5 too, worded that way. I want to say that it has been a lot 6 of work. Chief Smith also worked on it a lot with Tony. 7 Tony did a lot of it. They -- they -- but Mr. Moser and the 8 Sheriff also worked a lot on it, so it's been a joint effort. 9 And I appreciate the staff of the City of Kerrville and our 10 people getting together and working on this. It's an 11 excellent example of the County and the City working 12 together, which I seldom hear about in any of the news media, 13 but there are several things, and this is one of them, and 14 this is a successful one. So, all right. There is some 15 emergency -- urgency for this thing, because we've got to get 16 this thing over to the City by tomorrow -- on or before the 17 24th, which is tomorrow, and then they're going to -- they're 18 going to execute it and send it on to the State to meet the 19 deadline in December. And also, the Sheriff talked about he 20 was hiring this -- our emergency management guy -- 21 coordinator, and that's -- I want to identify him. It's 22 Mr. -- they call him "Dub." Is that a nickname? What's his 23 real name? 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: William Thomas. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: William Thomas. And he's already 11-23-15 51 1 been interviewed, and I think the Sheriff is about -- about 2 to hire him; maybe already has. And -- but he's got to get 3 processing him through some other things, but he's on board, 4 and so we appreciate that and welcome him to the -- to 5 working with us on this thing. All right. Any further 6 comments? 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I would like to say thank 8 you to Mrs. White. Thank you for your participation. Chief 9 Smith, thank you, sir, very much. And, Tony Lenard, we're 10 all ready to hang the king hat on him. His dad was an 11 emergency management type guy here for many, many years with 12 the City of Kerrville. 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: He was. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And so Tony didn't have any 15 choice; it was just bred into him. He does a good job. 16 Good, hardworking fellow. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd just like to add briefly 18 that, you know, six, nine months ago, it looked like we were 19 having a train wreck on this issue, but everyone stepped 20 back, looked at it, City Council, Commissioners Court, all 21 the other parties that we mentioned. And I think it is a -- 22 ditto what the Judge said. You know, when we get past some 23 of the politics sometimes and just work together, we can get 24 a lot accomplished. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'd like to say that a couple 11-23-15 52 1 times back before it started raining again, that the Sheriff 2 and I firsthand had some help from Tony out in the west part 3 of the county, and, Chief, I compliment him on his 4 professional work. And I kind of got to see just what all it 5 takes when you have one of those. You're not coming out 6 there to tell the guys how to fight the brush fire; you're 7 telling them how to get their resources there and everything. 8 And I think -- what was the final count on 83? 19 fire 9 departments? 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I think that's pretty close. 11 Even the Chief came out there on 83 with us. 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And the Chief. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: And the county. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Two different counties. The 15 fire was overlapping two different counties, and everybody 16 was working together. Edwards County S.O. was working with 17 Kerr County, and -- and this is why we need something like 18 that. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion 20 or comment? There being none, those in favor of the motion, 21 signify by raising your right hand. 22 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 23 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. And 24 congratulations to the city and the citizens. We're all 25 going to benefit from that. 11-23-15 53 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: True. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: I hope. All right, thank you. 3 Let's move on. Let's go back to 1.9 on the agenda; consider, 4 discuss, and take appropriate action to ratify and confirm 5 the audits required by Article 59.06 of the Code of Criminal 6 Procedure, and the fiscal year 2015 Chapter 59 Asset 7 Forfeiture Reports for the 198th District Attorney, the 216th 8 District Attorney, and the Kerr County Sheriff. Wow. Brenda 9 Doss, County Auditor. That was a mouthful. 10 MS. DOSS: Yes, it was. I think you have a copy of 11 these in your packets. All law enforcement agencies and 12 attorneys representing the State who receive proceeds or 13 properties under Chapter 59 shall account for the seizure, 14 forfeiture, receipt, and specific expenditures of all the 15 proceeds and property in an audit which is to be performed 16 annually by the governing body of a municipality or county as 17 appropriate. The annual period of the audit for a law 18 enforcement agency is the fiscal year of the appropriate 19 county or municipality, and the annual period for an attorney 20 representing the state is the same fiscal year. Audit must 21 be completed on a form provided by the Attorney General and 22 must include a detailed report and explanation of all the 23 expenditures, including salaries and overtime pay, officer 24 trainings, investigative equipment and supplies, and other 25 items. Certified copies of the audit shall be delivered by 11-23-15 54 1 the law enforcement agency or attorney representing the state 2 to the Attorney General not later than the 60th day after the 3 date on which the annual period that is the subject of the 4 audit ends. And these were filed -- they are required to be 5 filed online now and electronically signed by the District 6 Attorneys or by the Sheriff, and then the Auditor also has to 7 do the same, and these have all been submitted, so I'm asking 8 that you confirm and ratify the audits. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Make a motion that we ratify 10 and confirm audits required by Article 59.06 of the Code of 11 Criminal Procedure, and the fiscal year 2015 Chapter 59 Asset 12 Forfeiture Reports for 198th District Attorney, 216th 13 District Attorney, and the Kerr County Sheriff's Department. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: It's been moved and seconded. He 16 read it exactly from the agenda, so I'm not going to repeat 17 it again. Is there any further comment or -- yes, sir? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Just one comment. This was 19 the first year they required all this to be done online, and 20 their forms -- and every person that gets into it had to have 21 different passwords, different laws. We had to get the 22 Auditor -- and it's her first year, and I just want to thank 23 her a lot for helping us get through all this and get it 24 done. 'Cause they -- 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Those in favor of the motion, 11-23-15 55 1 signify by raising your right hand. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you 4 very much. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Job well done. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Mm-hmm. Item 1.10; report from 7 Maggie Baker, Kerr County Veteran Services Officer. Hi, 8 Maggie. 9 MS. BAKER: Morning. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Feeling better now? 11 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you. 13 MS. BAKER: This report that I have goes through 14 October, from January of 2015 to October 2015. I don't have 15 November and December's yet, because I won't have those -- it 16 takes usually three months before I get the reports from 17 those previous months. But this is the report on veterans, 18 surviving spouses, and dependents that either visit, I file 19 claims for, I have phone calls, meetings, or events. To 20 start off, with veterans, it's 95. Surviving spouses, 50. 21 Dependents, these are the children of my veterans and 22 surviving spouses that come in to help with their parents if 23 they're homebound or in assisted living or nursing homes. 24 The total vets, 165. My walk-ins for just general 25 information -- this is to find out about school taxes, state 11-23-15 56 1 parks, legal information, funeral benefits, the Freedoms Path 2 housing out at the V.A., civil claims, Meals on Wheels 3 program, business and home loans. Now, I can't answer all of 4 these questions, but I do have resources where I can send 5 them out to. 6 The veterans' claims that I've mailed to Houston 7 for the surviving spouses and veterans is approximately 83. 8 The DD-214's that veterans need to help file their claims or 9 for other information, Form 180's, I've sent about 32 of 10 those. Additional claims info mailed to Houston, this is 11 additional information, like with other medical records, or 12 if they haven't received their DD-214's; these all get mailed 13 in later. That's approximately 40. And notice of denials, 14 and this is if a veteran's had a claim filed, it's been 15 denied, and I'm helping them with that denial. I've sent 16 about 10 of those. So, that's approximately about 165 as 17 well. Responses from Houston, that means like tracking forms 18 that I receive for the veterans. This is when I mail in a 19 claim, they receive a fax back to me saying they have 20 received that -- that claim. It's about approximately 70. 21 Approximate number of veterans wanting to get into the V.A. 22 health care system -- that means they're wanting to get into 23 the V.A. Hospital and receive health benefits -- and that's 24 approximately 20. Because if they've already got a claim, 25 they've got a disability rating, then they can get into the 11-23-15 57 1 V.A. But if they don't have a disability or do not want to 2 get in the disability for a rating, then they can just get 3 into the V.A. Hospital itself. Phone calls from veterans, I 4 keep track of this. I've had approximately a hundred -- or 5 1,050 calls. E-mails from veterans, surviving spouses and 6 dependents, about 200. 7 Now, the moneys that my veterans have received just 8 since January through -- and this is approximately through 9 August or September, about $96,000. Since I first started 10 here in March, they've received approximately $150,000. Now, 11 there's more money that they've received, but a lot of my 12 veterans don't either call me or come in and tell me, "I've 13 got a decision and I'm getting this much money." If they 14 have have a problem, they'll come in before then. The 15 trainings that I've had to help my job, this is Texas 16 Veterans Commission trainings. I've been to approximately 17 five of those, and it's usually a week-long training in 18 Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Galveston. The trainings that 19 I've had from my mentorships for different county veteran 20 service officers, I've had approximately a month total for 21 that. And then I've had different trainings through -- with 22 the Veteran's Choice Card that veterans can receive, or about 23 the Freedom's Path housing. And that's just approximately 24 seven meetings for training for that. 25 Now, I have all these other meetings with veterans' 11-23-15 58 1 organizations and outreach programs. I've attended 2 approximately 146 of those, and that was with AMVETS, Salute 3 to Female Veterans organization, Hill Country Veterans 4 Council, Military Veterans Peer Network organization, the 5 quarterly stakeholder's meetings with V.A. Hospital, the 6 Veterans Day parade, 4th of July, P.T.S.D. groups, Female 7 Veterans Coalition, meetings at the V.A. with the social 8 workers, American Legion, meeting with Family Endeavors, the 9 V.A. Administrators, military recruiters. Our -- our 10 veterans' brown-bag lunch meetings, we bring in different 11 speakers that can help our veterans. Our V.A. Mobility Unit 12 meeting, the homeless coalition, health summits. So, like I 13 said, that's approximately 146 that I've attended of those. 14 Meetings with non-veterans organizations for 15 outreach, recovery-oriented systems of care, Alcohol and Drug 16 Council meetings, Coalition on Aging, Hospice, Kerrville 17 State Hospital, the Dietert Center, in-home senior care, 18 Brookdale, the Hal Peterson Foundation, River Point Assisted 19 Living, Hill Country M.H.M.R., Chamber of Commerce, Veterans 20 Honor Fund with the Dietert Center, Meals on Wheels -- which 21 is a new organization that's just been started, and that's 22 where the veteran service officers work with their 23 veterans -- low-income veterans to help get them into the 24 Dietert Center for Meals on Wheels, which they receive one 25 meal a day. And so it's up to us to find these veterans who 11-23-15 59 1 are lower income or almost homeless and help them get with 2 the Meals on Wheels program. That's approximately 53 meals 3 that I've had with those organizations. 4 And meetings with veterans outside of the veterans 5 organizations, and this is where I would go into their homes, 6 where they work, to the V.A.; that's approximately 22 where I 7 have done that. And then veterans and non-veterans events at 8 the health fairs, job fairs, the war memorial monument 9 dedication meetings, women veterans recognition coffee, 10 Veterans Day parade -- excuse me. Working with Freedom's 11 Path groundbreaking, Salute to Female Veterans events, 12 Wounded Warriors events, fundraisers; that's approximately 40 13 of those that I've attended. Speaking events where I've had 14 to go and I've been asked, like the Morning Rotary, Democrat 15 women's group, Toastmasters, Coalition on Aging, that's 16 approximately five speaking events this past year. I've had 17 approximately five V.S.O. conference calls. We have those 18 once every other month, and that's where the -- the president 19 of the county veteran service officers out of Houston and 20 Waco, they will call us and go over all you the new 21 information, find out if everything is going okay with our 22 jobs, and just general information. We also have video 23 conference calls, and that's done with also the -- the 24 veteran service officer presidents; we've had about 15 of 25 those this year. 11-23-15 60 1 Meetings working with the funeral home. We've had 2 several deceased veterans who passed away in nursing homes 3 and have had no family members. They'll contact me. I 4 contact the funeral homes, and we see how we can get a 5 funeral set up for them. Media and P.R., approximately 15 6 times, maybe more, with all the different events that we've 7 done for the County. And just some of my accomplishments and 8 things, like I say, I've helped, just since January that I 9 know of, bring in approximately $96,000 for my veterans and 10 surviving spouses, and approximately $150,000 into the county 11 for my veterans. And like I said, a lot of the veterans and 12 spouses, they won't contact me if they get an award. They 13 will if they've had a denial letter or something. I help 14 them, and that way they can get their awards there for them. 15 And I've helped them receive their medical records or 16 personnel records, medals that they've had that they may have 17 lost over the years through St. Louis, Missouri. That's 18 where you send off the forms to receive that. 19 And also, I've worked with Military Veterans Peer 20 Network and Family Endeavors to help a lot of our either 21 lower income veterans, or our veterans who have just gotten 22 out of the war -- the military, and a lot of the younger 23 guys. They don't know what they want to do when they get out 24 of the military, so I can help them find a job, help them 25 find a place to live, a vehicle, food and clothing. And like 11-23-15 61 1 I said, that's with help from Military Veterans Peer Network 2 and Family Endeavors. I've helped a lot of our surviving 3 spouses. I've had one that lived on just $15 a day, so with 4 the help of the Veterans Center and Family Endeavors, we have 5 gotten her to -- well, help to pay her bills, as well as she 6 is being taken a week's worth of groceries every week. 7 I've had my initial certification training. I now 8 just need to receive my accreditation -- my county 9 accreditation, as well as my national accreditation training, 10 and that's going to help a lot of veterans. We get some that 11 come in from Florida, Georgia, Colorado, Wyoming, all the 12 different states. They call me and they say, "I'm planning 13 on moving to Texas. I'm planning on moving to Kerrville. 14 Can you help me with filing my -- my claim?" Or, "I've 15 already got a claim filed. Can you help me?" With a 16 national accreditation, I can help them, because I can get 17 into the computer and be able to check on whatever's going on 18 in that state. And I found out that Texas has the -- the 19 highest amount of disability ratings, and they pay more of a 20 disability rating amount to our veterans and surviving 21 spouses. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: That's because we have more -- 23 we've contributed more to the military than any other state. 24 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: And that means we have more 11-23-15 62 1 deceased soldiers -- 2 MS. BAKER: Right. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: -- than any other state. 4 MS. BAKER: Yes. And so that's increased our 5 surviving spouses. And, now, the surviving spouses can 6 either be the female or the male. I've had a lot of man 7 surviving spouses that have come in, and they've also needed 8 more -- they've needed more help than our female surviving 9 spouses, because they're -- 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Texas contributes 10 percent of the 11 military for the United States. I'm sorry. Go ahead. 12 MS. BAKER: And I was a major help in getting our 13 war memorial monument and the dedication. We had a couple of 14 really good committee groups that helped a lot, along with 15 Hill Country Monuments. And also with the Kerr County 16 Veterans Day parade, that's now our -- it's the second year 17 that I've been involved, but we've had three years already 18 with the Veterans Day parade, and we've gotten a lot of good 19 -- a lot of good remarks on that. This year -- well, in 20 February we're going to have our Salute to Female Veterans 21 organizations, which I'm the P.R. and donations chair for 22 that, it's going to be our 25th anniversary, and so that's 23 going to be at the Cailloux Foundation. And so I've had a 24 couple of years with helping with that. Like I said, I've 25 helped to get a lot of needed food and clothing and bills 11-23-15 63 1 paid for our surviving spouses through Military Veterans Peer 2 Network and Family Endeavors. And a lot of the veterans, 3 when they come in, like I said, they've had a notice of 4 denial, which means when their claims were sent to Houston, 5 if they were denied, or if they've been to a different 6 veteran service officer and moved here, and they were denied, 7 I can help them with getting their disability rating 8 increased some, for maybe up to 40 to 50 percent. And I've 9 had some who have come in and I've gotten them either to 80 10 or 100 percent. And I've also been able to help my veterans, 11 like I said, with denied claims turned into approved claims. 12 I publish a Kerr County veterans newsletter; I do 13 that quarterly. The next one's coming out. And that helps 14 our veterans, as well as our -- the family members and the 15 people of Kerr County know what's going on with our veterans 16 and everything in the county, how to make donations to help 17 our veterans, where to go if they need to go to the V.A. 18 Hospital, the Military Veterans Peer Network help, Family 19 Endeavors, and how to go to the veterans center itself, and 20 help with getting weekly or monthly donations of food. And I 21 also have an updated Kerr County veterans Facebook page, and 22 that basically does the same thing as the newsletter, but it 23 reaches a different organization. And that's what I've been 24 doing. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Maggie, a question and an 11-23-15 64 1 observation. 2 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir? 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: One of the things you 4 mentioned, which was very good, that you've increased for 5 some of the veterans the percent of disability; you said, 6 like, from 40 to 80 percent or something like that? 7 MS. BAKER: Yes. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that included in your 9 $96,000 or $150,000 estimate? 10 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's included in that? 12 (Ms. Baker nodded.) 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. And an observation -- 14 that's a very good report, thank you. An observation. I 15 think when we created this position, your position which you 16 fill, we based it on Gillespie County's -- Tammy -- I forget 17 Tammy's last name. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: King. 19 MS. BAKER: King. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think she said that -- 21 that they had experienced with her position there that the 22 increased benefits, and therefore increased money that came 23 into Gillespie County, more than paid for that position they 24 created. And I don't -- I think you've been here for 25 approximately a year or something like that, so very good 11-23-15 65 1 report. I don't think we can -- there's a lot of things in 2 there you identified that are subjective and not 3 quantifiable. 4 MS. BAKER: Right. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So I don't know how you do 6 exactly what Tammy seemed to accomplish, but good report. 7 And -- and I think that I hear a lot of things from veterans 8 that say that you're helping, so keep that up. So -- 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Excellent report. And the one 10 thing that you said -- you said it several times, which shows 11 to me your commitment, is they're -- you referred to them as 12 "my veterans." And that's very personal, and shows how 13 personal you take your position, and I really appreciate 14 that. Thank you. 15 MS. BAKER: Thank you. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: How many veterans did you say are 17 in Kerr County residing here? 18 MS. BAKER: There's approximately a little over 19 6,000. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Mm-hmm. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I've got a question. 23 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: You've completed your 25 initial certification training, and next spring your national 11-23-15 66 1 accreditation. Seemed like to me when we first started this 2 program and you came on board -- or we were trying to get you 3 on board and the whole thing, seemed like we were told that 4 it takes seven or eight years -- 5 MS. BAKER: Two years. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Excuse me? 7 MS. BAKER: Two years, sir. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Two years? And so you're 9 seven or eight months ahead of time? 10 MS. BAKER: Yes, sir. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good job. 12 MS. BAKER: Thank you. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fantastic. And so with that 14 accreditation, that means that you can go into the national 15 computer system now and just literally help anybody that 16 walks in your office now. 17 MS. BAKER: Yes. Any state, too. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Very good. Thank you so 19 much. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Maggie. 21 MS. BAKER: Thank you. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: How about a recess, Judge? 23 JUDGE POLLARD: A 10-minute recess, I declare that. 24 Very appropriate. 25 (Recess taken from 10:25 a.m. to 10:40 a.m.) - - - - - - - - - - 11-23-15 67 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. We're going to go to 2 Item 1.17 on the agenda, scheduled for 10 o'clock. Consider, 3 discuss, and take appropriate action concerning potential 4 modifications to Economically Distressed Areas Program, EDAP, 5 and Clean Water State Revolving Fund, C.W.S.R.F. -- I don't 6 know how you pronounce that. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Clean Water State Revolving 8 Fund. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. 2016 applications. 10 Commissioner Letz. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We have previously approved so 12 many of these applications, and I think at the last meeting 13 we modified them a little bit, with some questions I think 14 Commissioner Baldwin had about the funding portion of it. 15 Since then, they've been modified probably twice again, 16 because it seems to be a moving target as to how much 17 funding -- every time one number changes, it changes a bunch 18 of others. What I just passed out you is a funding summary. 19 The first page is the 2015 S.R.F. application, and it shows 20 the bottom line. The total application amount is 601,000. 21 Kerr County's 30 percent commitment is 185,000. There's 22 416,000 that is loan forgiveness. The second page -- 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do you want to point out what 24 that's primarily for? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is easement acquisition. 11-23-15 68 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, right. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And this application has 3 already been submitted. We just are modifying the numbers 4 slightly. The second page is the actual construction 5 application that's going in, and this top line, it's -- total 6 amount is $31,385,891. Of that, the first column, 16,810,273 7 is the S.R.F. portion, Clean Water Act, and the fourth column 8 is the EDAP portion, 14,050,618. These two numbers make the 9 31 million up. The EDAP portion, Line 4 -- Column 4, I have 10 not seen a document, but it -- but it keeps on being referred 11 to in e-mails that that's a 100 percent grant, so we're 12 assuming that it's a 100 percent grant, and it's being 13 submitted that way. If you go to the second column, 14 5 million, 110, that is Kerr County's 30 percent portion or 15 obligation, and then the other portion is 11,700,273, which 16 is the loan forgiveness portion. So, if you combine the 17 5,110,000 and the 185,000, that's the amount that Kerr County 18 is actually borrowing out of 31-plus million. 19 I asked Dusty Traylor to come in to explain how 20 that would be funded, how they're issued, the timetable on 21 that. And it's also to go over -- you may recall at our last 22 meeting -- I think it was last meeting, maybe the one before 23 that, there was a change at the Water Development Board, or a 24 change -- I guess maybe it was a -- or a requirement by the 25 Water Development Board that we pledge general funds as well 11-23-15 69 1 as the revenue from the project to fund that -- or for that 2 debt obligation. And I wanted Dusty to come up and kind of 3 explain that to us, and that we still -- you know, we -- the 4 intent is to still use the revenue generated from the project 5 to pay that debt, but there's going to be a period when 6 there's not going to be any revenue the first couple years 7 while it's being built. And that -- and during that period, 8 the County will have to pay it, and then they can -- the 9 County general fund can be paid back from the revenue, as I 10 understand it. But, Dusty, you're the numbers person. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And one other thing to put it 12 in context, too. The -- the $31 million construction, the 13 total project is 40 million-plus, 44 million, something like 14 that. So, this is -- we had to do a multi-phase, so Phase 1 15 is this for 2016. So -- so, just put that in context. It's 16 -- it's hampering the project doing it in phases, but that's 17 what it looks like we need to do. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: And I have one concern about that 19 that I raised at our last meeting, and we discussed it too, 20 and that was that we have other commitments for these moneys 21 that have been pledged, and so you might say that this would 22 be a -- could be a fourth or fifth lien type commitment of 23 the general fund, and I want to you address that issue. Is 24 that going to be a problem? 25 MR. TRAYLOR: This would -- the way that the Water 11-23-15 70 1 Board is asking for this for the -- the loan portion of this 2 project to be financed with the County, typically the Water 3 Board will allow you to finance projects one two of ways; 4 with bonds that are specifically and solely secured by 5 revenues of the system for which it's been financed, or 6 obligations for which the entity -- in this case, Kerr 7 County -- would be issuing a debt obligation that would 8 contain an ad valorem tax pledge, but for which could also be 9 repaid from revenues, once revenues are being generated by -- 10 by the ratepayers there at the system to pay the debt 11 service. So, the instrument that the -- we talked to the 12 Water Board about the County issuing for this -- for this 13 financing is a certificate of obligation. The County has 14 issued certificates of obligation in the past. Those are -- 15 those are secured specifically by an ad valorem tax revenue. 16 However, you have the authority and the ability to repay that 17 debt from any lawfully secured fund of the county, so once 18 there are ratepayers hooked up to this system that are paying 19 a monthly -- a monthly rate to the County, then those 20 revenues can come in and pay the debt service on these -- on 21 those obligations. 22 Judge, to your question about a -- about a fourth 23 or fifth lien, the County has a number -- I don't have it 24 right off the top of my head, three or four different debt 25 issues that are outstanding that are all secured by the ad 11-23-15 71 1 valorem taxes of the county. This would -- this particular, 2 if the County issues a certificate of obligation, would have 3 the same security as those obligations. But you would be 4 able to pay it after a while after such revenues are 5 generated from the system, so they would be -- they would 6 all, from a legal standpoint, really be on the same lien 7 level. The holders would -- 8 JUDGE POLLARD: None of them would be prior? 9 MR. TRAYLOR: No, sir. No, sir. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, okay. Just so it doesn't 11 present a problem as far as -- that they're aware of when we 12 make this pledge. 13 MR. TRAYLOR: So that -- you're asking so that all 14 the other bondholders of the county -- 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 16 MR. TRAYLOR: -- don't have a problem. You have 17 the authority and the ability to go out and issue additional 18 obligations at the same level with the same pledges in place. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: But it will not endanger our pledge 20 -- the requirements of our pledging the general fund? It 21 won't endanger that that we've already got some pledges out? 22 MR. TRAYLOR: I don't -- I don't understand -- I 23 don't quite understand what you're asking. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, all right. I'm talking like 25 you have a tract of real estate that's been -- you've 11-23-15 72 1 borrowed money on it. 2 MR. TRAYLOR: Yes, sir. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: You've got a lien. When you come 4 along and want to create another debt on it later on, it's 5 subject to the prior debt, and it's a race to the courthouse, 6 and that -- the first one -- 7 MR. TRAYLOR: Sure. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: -- has a priority over the others. 9 MR. TRAYLOR: Right. Right. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Now, I'm asking is there a problem 11 like that on this? 12 MR. TRAYLOR: No, sir. All -- these bonds would 13 all have the same pledge, from a legality standpoint, of the 14 County's ad valorem tax base, so the pledge there would be 15 for you to -- the County to levy the required annual ad 16 valorem tax rate to repay the debt. That would be the -- 17 that would be the ultimate bottom line requirement of this 18 debt. You'd be able to pay it, though, from any lawful 19 source of the county. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: As long as we disclose at the 21 time in the instrument that we have other obligations that 22 we've already pledged on it, I would think we'd be satisfied 23 that -- 24 MR. TRAYLOR: Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Do you -- and I don't know if 11-23-15 73 1 this is directed to you or the two of you in east Kerr 2 County. Will there be ample revenue to service the debt once 3 everybody is hooked up? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's been set up -- the way to 7 pay for this debt, the rate is set at about -- and it's a 8 moving target, but it's about $60 a month for a connection. 9 And it's high right now, because we're having to pay all the 10 infrastructure up front, and we'll probably be -- we'll hook 11 up about 40 to 50 -- maybe 50 percent of the people are being 12 hooked up, even though we're spending three-quarters of the 13 money. By the time whole thing is built out, the debt 14 payment should only -- should be lowered to about -- I think 15 it's like 25 -- $25 to $30 per person, which is pretty 16 reasonable. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And how long do we anticipate 18 it will take to get to where that's servicing the debt? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We are guessing that the -- 20 there will be some revenue coming in in about two years. The 21 first two years will be interest only. We're not -- none of 22 the principal is due to be paid back to Water Development 23 Board until a year after the construction is complete. So 24 you're looking at a -- basically, if it's a two-year 25 construction, then that year, so no -- none of the principal, 11-23-15 74 1 which is obviously the large payments, will be three years 2 down the road. At that point, we will have revenue coming 3 in. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And then when you look at the 5 next phase of construction, okay, which is another one of 6 these processes, okay, that brings on the additional 400 7 connections or so, okay. And that's where -- as Commissioner 8 Letz says, that's when the benefit is increased 9 significantly, because you pay off most of the infrastructure 10 up front, and now you're just doing the small incremental 11 costs to bring in a lot more revenue, so it's all in the 12 plan. Okay. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the numbers are 14 purposefully very conservative on the revenue being 15 generated. No -- no commercial is included anywhere in any 16 of our projections, so -- and we know there's a lot of 17 commercial people in Center Point that do want to hook up. 18 Actually, they're going to have to hook up. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: You said $25 or $30 per person. 20 Did you mean per hookup? 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Per hookup. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Per hookup. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, I mean, the -- you know, 25 intentionally very conservative numbers, but there would 11-23-15 75 1 be -- and I believe I asked Dusty this on Friday when I 2 talked to him, that the principal that is paid before there 3 is any revenue, can we repay that back out of it, or can we 4 not? 5 MR. TRAYLOR: I would think that you would have the 6 ability to -- to kind of have control over that system and be 7 able to recoup some of your up-front costs over time as that 8 system matures and has more connections online. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: We'd budget that. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We'll have to budget it, 11 correct. We'll have to budget it, but long-term, it will be 12 paid back by the ratepayers within the system. So, our goal 13 has always been that the ratepayers pay for 100 percent of 14 the system. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we're still there. It's 17 just that we're going to have to bridge that a little bit and 18 get -- pay ourselves back, you know, for the first -- 19 JUDGE POLLARD: It's going to be hard to come up 20 with an estimate for what that figure's going to be that 21 we'll have to front, I'll call it, until we start getting 22 revenues back. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We know the numbers. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: We know the numbers? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, $35 million. 11-23-15 76 1 JUDGE POLLARD: So we've got to budget that? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Wow. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But, I mean, the budgeted 6 amount is -- it's basically a little less than -- it's 7 5.2 million -- it's the interest on 5.2 million, is what we 8 have to budget right now. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And that's a hundred and -- 11 MR. TRAYLOR: About $165,000 per year, is what we 12 were calculating on Friday. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So -- 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Is the Auditor getting these 17 figures down to include in the budget when the budget time 18 comes? 19 MS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: She's been involved in every 21 single -- 22 MR. TRAYLOR: Absolutely. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hundreds of e-mails every day. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Like this? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. She's seen it. She has 11-23-15 77 1 seen it, but Keller at Tetra Tech prepared that exhibit. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. All right. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, anyway, I think the action 4 item would be to -- and the reason we're doing it right now, 5 the Water Development Board is meeting the next day we meet. 6 We could either -- they're not requiring that we do any more 7 motions to approve the application. It might be cleaner to 8 wait until our next meeting, which is also on the 14th, to 9 make sure we're approving final numbers, because -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think so. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- there's some e-mails that 12 went out this morning about 6:57, as I recall, -- 13 MR. TRAYLOR: Yes. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- from Keller that answered 15 some new questions from the Water Development Board about why 16 a certain line item was where it was. So, I suspect there's 17 going to be a slight modification -- 18 MR. TRAYLOR: I think so. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- again. So, I think we can 20 wait to approve it until the 14th. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, that's a good idea. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's just approving the 23 application at this point. It's still up -- the presumption 24 is -- I think it's accurate that the Water Development Board 25 will approve the application as it's submitted. Been a lot 11-23-15 78 1 of communication with them, and there's probably a -- 2 JUDGE POLLARD: 14th of January is what you're -- 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 14th of December. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: December. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we'll meet that same day, 7 so we can approve them that same day to the final 8 application, rather than approve another one that we -- that 9 may change. 10 MR. TRAYLOR: And then once that Water Board's 11 application is approved, it's probably a three-month period 12 before you'll actually be able to close on the financing and 13 start being able to draw on the -- draw on the project 14 drawings from the bank. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This -- as Commissioner Letz 16 said, this has been really labor-intensive -- I mean, 17 communication-intensive with Dusty and Tetra Tech and the 18 County Auditor and everybody else. And -- and I think 19 it's -- it looks like it's pretty well set. I think the 20 funds that we see here we'll get from the Water Development 21 Board, so -- but you can't say the fat lady's sung, but she's 22 humming very loud. 23 MR. TRAYLOR: Warming up. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right, she's warming up. 25 So -- 11-23-15 79 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just want to make -- 2 JUDGE POLLARD: She's in good voice. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just want to make sure everyone 5 understood where we were so everyone's on the same page. 6 Dusty could explain the financing portion. Dusty, how long 7 will it take once we start moving forward? Say it's approved 8 on the 14th. When would we start the C.O. process? 9 MR. TRAYLOR: I would think we would -- assuming 10 that the Water Board says the dot's -- the I's are dotted and 11 the T's are crossed, I would think we would start moving that 12 ball forward beginning in January. Just like in the past, 13 when the Court's done a certificate of obligation issue, the 14 Court's going to have to approve a notice of intent. It's 15 got to be published in the paper, and there's a 30-day time 16 limit there. That's the same here as well. So, if you were 17 to approve a notice of intent for the financing portion of 18 this in January, hopefully by February you've met that -- 19 you've met that 30-day deadline, and you're able to lock in 20 the interest rates with the Water Board at that time. Then 21 about 25 or 30 days after that, mid-March, you're able to 22 actually close on that financing and start drawing the funds 23 from the Water Board. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the difference between this 25 and a normal C.O. is that we know who the lender is, Water 11-23-15 80 1 Development Board, so that part of the process is taken out. 2 MR. TRAYLOR: That's right. In this case, there's 3 not an underwriter; we don't have to go to the bond rating 4 agencies. The purchaser is the Texas Water Development 5 Board. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And -- 7 MR. TRAYLOR: And they set the rates. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's the construction 9 phase. And just for -- what Commissioner Letz mentioned 10 first, the 600-some thousand dollars in 2015, that's all the 11 money we have. Acquisition is -- of property -- 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- is underway. Okay. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But it's the same. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's going out on the 14th as 17 well, but our portion will close on that at the same time. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Rather than doing two -- well, 20 we can see how much Water Development Board wants to do. 21 MR. TRAYLOR: I sure hope they do just one. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right, okay. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And so we would know the 24 interest rate -- sounds like you have a pretty good idea what 25 it is now. 11-23-15 81 1 MR. TRAYLOR: We would feel like the interest rate 2 on this would be in the -- the low 3's or 4's. That's one of 3 the things that the Water Board does, is they are -- when 4 they lend you money, they're lending you a subsidized rate on 5 their cost of funds, so that's one -- that's one of the key 6 reasons that you go through your financing with the Water 7 Board, is you get less -- you get interest rates that are 8 below market, because they subsidize the rates. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: So there's no action to be taken at 11 this time on that? 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, sir. It's really just 13 more of an update. And we could take action, but I think 14 we're going to probably change the numbers, based on the 15 emails this morning, so let's wait. 16 MR. TRAYLOR: All right. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Thank you, Dusty. 18 MR. TRAYLOR: Good to see you. Happy Thanksgiving. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thanks for coming up. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 21 MR. TRAYLOR: Thank you. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Let's go to Item 1.12, 23 status of telephone service disruption. Commissioner Moser? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Thank you, Judge. At 25 the last Commissioners Court, we discussed the interruption 11-23-15 82 1 of the telephone service between here and San Antonio, and it 2 knocked out a lot of services, both emergency services and 3 cell phones and everything else. So, I said, "This isn't 4 rocket science," but we formed a committee, okay. We formed 5 -- had a meeting that consisted of -- of the City and the 6 County, the two telephone companies, and 911, and we met last 7 week, and all I'm going to do is just give a quick status. 8 There was a single point failure, obviously, 'cause it was 9 cut three or four times within the past year. Primarily in 10 the Boerne area is where it happened. There is a fix to this 11 system, which will have dual redundancy, especially for 12 emergencies. The action and the people that are going to 13 provide that full redundancy are the two telephone companies, 14 working with AT&T. I'll not give a schedule right now, since 15 we don't know it, but it's going to move very quickly. The 16 County is not going to -- City nor County are contributing 17 anything to correcting this. It'll be there. And I said 18 it's not rocket science, but it -- we went through -- it's 19 damn near rocket science. I'll tell you, it's a very complex 20 system to assure redundancy of the communications systems, 21 but it -- it can be done. It will be done, and we'll hear 22 more about the schedule here shortly. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: From what I hear, the telephone 24 companies are really contributing a lot of efforts to it, 25 particularly Hill Country Telephone. Patrick Tinley, a name 11-23-15 83 1 that's kind of familiar around this courthouse, is the 2 General Manager out there, and he was participating in that 3 meeting, and they are making some pretty strong commitments 4 about what they're going to do. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They're committing resources. 6 Resources, and they're even committing to line connections 7 that do not exist now that they're going to make, and work 8 with AT&T. As a matter of fact, Hill Country Telephone 9 Co-op, the last cut that was made on an AT&T line, Hill 10 Country Telephone repaired that, which they weren't even 11 obligated to do or responsible for, but they did it. So, 12 there's really close cooperation between the two telephone 13 companies here and AT&T, and I think we'll see it all come to 14 fruition here very shortly, so that's good news. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Commissioner, there was a 16 rumor about that -- you're right, Hill Country did the 17 repairs down there. But there was a rumor about that Hill 18 Country had something to do with cutting the line in the 19 beginning, and somehow we want to help put that to bed, 20 'cause that's just absolutely not true. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: That's not correct. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And I just want to bring 24 that up, 'cause they approached me about it and were 25 concerned about it. 11-23-15 84 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They did the repair. They 2 didn't do -- 3 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's right. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They did the fix; they didn't 5 do the damage. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: They're fixers; they're not 7 damagers. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So kudos to them. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Correct. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's all. I just wanted to 11 give you a status on that. Judge, thank you. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you. 1.13; consider, 13 discuss, and take appropriate action regarding the County 14 funding library cards via Read2Win at the Butt-Holdsworth 15 Library for needy children living outside the city limits. 16 Commissioner Moser. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Judge. As you 18 recall, we discussed putting $25,000 of county funds, which 19 we put in the budget -- we put in contingency right now, with 20 the concept of using those funds to provide to Read2Win, a 21 not-for-profit third party, and that they in turn would 22 buy -- purchase library cards for -- primarily for kids 23 living outside the city that could not afford library cards, 24 to have access to all the services of the library. There was 25 some question about if the County did that, the accreditation 11-23-15 85 1 to the library, and there's some complex formulas which have 2 to be satisfied by the Library Commission, I think is what 3 it's called, and that has to do with the amount of funds that 4 the City has for operating the library has to be above a 5 certain amount per capita for the county, and if the County 6 contributes to this, then the residents or the per capita 7 calculation is based on the entire county. It meets that 8 criteria for this year. 9 However, another quirk came into it, and that is if 10 the County uses any funds for the public, which we would be 11 using the 25,000, if it goes into that library, then 12 everybody in the county has the same access to the library. 13 That's not the way it's set up right now. So, therefore, 14 that negates -- that negates the County taking the $25,000, 15 running it through the third party and into the city. So, 16 with that, I take this off the table, and it cannot work. It 17 was a way to try and put a bandaid on something to give more 18 county residents, quote, free access. Let me just call it 19 that without elaborating. And so this approach will not 20 work, so I -- and I don't think we can do it now. But 21 perhaps -- can I -- I think the $25,000 that we identified 22 for this in the budget, we need to do a budget amendment or 23 whatever, Ms. Auditor, to put that into -- back into -- or 24 put it in reserve, since it's not going to be used for 25 library. So -- 11-23-15 86 1 COMMISSIONER REEVES: It's basically in the 2 contingency fund now, so -- 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Leave it there, and it goes 4 into reserves at the end of the year. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: If it stays in reserve, that's 6 good; then we don't need to take any action okay. So, that's 7 it. It was an attempt, but it didn't work. So -- 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: While we're on the topic, I'll 9 bring up something. I went back and looked at our old 10 agreements, and 2011 was the last time we -- "we" being the 11 City and the County -- looked at the library and a bunch of 12 other things. We currently have no agreement with the 13 library, and that is out -- termed out of that deal, even 14 though there's a couple years where it's debatable who is in 15 breach, if anyone was in breach, and back and forth on the 16 library. But that same time framework in 2000 -- 17 September 30th, 2014, the Animal Control/Environmental Health 18 agreement also expired. We fulfilled our obligation under 19 that and provided the services in the city limits of 20 Kerrville, which we're not obligated to do, but did for that 21 term, and we are doing it currently. Did it last year and 22 this year, even though there is no agreement for us to do 23 that right now. The EMS agreement was modified after 2011 to 24 a new 10-year deal -- or a 10-year deal, and we're, I guess, 25 in the second year of that. And the airport was modified 11-23-15 87 1 after that as well, so airport and EMS are fine. Library and 2 animal control services, there are no agreements right now, 3 just to put that on the table that it may be something that 4 we want to look at in the future, because I don't know that 5 we can -- I guess we can legally fund it, because they're 6 county residents, but the agreement with the City -- and the 7 City's obligated to provide some of the services in the city 8 limits. That gets into a little bit of an issue when we're 9 providing services that, under the city charter, the City's 10 supposed to be doing, and we have no agreements. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think that's a good point. 12 We talked about that at the Library Advisory Board the other 13 day also. And on the surface, you could say, my goodness, we 14 can see a solution to this. Roughly, the operating budget 15 for Animal Control and Environmental Health is 700,000. The 16 budget for the library is a little over 700,000, so they're 17 about the same. So, you say, "Why doesn't the City provide 18 one, County provide the other?" But then you get into the 19 fact that a lot of the city residents are paying both city 20 and county taxes, so then that gets to be -- that complicates 21 it. But I think you're right, Commissioner. I think -- you 22 know, that's the only thing that I can see right now on 23 looking at these interlocal agreements, and recognizing the 24 fact that residents in the city pay both, and see if there's 25 not some balance of services provided versus taxes paid when 11-23-15 88 1 you look at -- look at that and some of the other things. 2 So, that's the only way I think we get across the goal line 3 on the library again, and that's going to be complicated. 4 But that's not the subject here. The subject here was that 5 the $25,000 doesn't work, but I agree with you. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The difference is -- and I 7 don't want to belabor this -- that the City is obligated to 8 do the animal services and environmental health. That's 9 their -- their charter says they should do that. They have 10 an ordinance that says they shall do it. They're not doing 11 it. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mm-hmm. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's -- you know, so this 14 dual taxation thing, I don't quite get, because we're funding 15 something that the City -- 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Agree. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- is obligated to do. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think it's -- I think it's 19 worthy of a County Commissioners/City Council meeting to look 20 at these things, definitely, and see if we can't -- 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Work it out. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- work it out. So, I think 23 that would be the -- no action today, but that's what we 24 ought to do, is make that an action in the future. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Thank you. 11-23-15 89 1 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Bottom line is, no 2 action on Item 1.13. We'll therefore move on to Item 1.14; 3 consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to approve 4 contract with Divide Volunteer Fire Department and allow the 5 County Judge to sign same. This is a renewal of the same 6 contracts that have been executed with the Divide Fire 7 Department and other fire departments, for that matter, for 8 several years. I recommend that you do it. And by the way, 9 they sure had a good fundraiser out there and served a lot of 10 really good exotic food. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: That was the school; that 12 wasn't the fire department. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Oh, all right. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Still good eating. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. It was -- well, the Divide 16 Fire Department, last one I went to, served really good 17 steaks, and you were cooking them. 18 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, back to the agenda 19 item, move for approval as listed. 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved and 22 seconded that the County Judge be authorized to execute the 23 contract with the Divide Volunteer Fire Department. Those -- 24 any further discussion? If not, then those in favor, signify 25 by raising your right hand. 11-23-15 90 1 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 2 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Thank you. 3 Item 1.15; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action 4 regarding approval of capital expenditures at Hill Country 5 Youth Event Center. Commissioners Letz and Reeves. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I've got -- I'll start with the 7 easy part, then I'll turn it over to Bob. We met with Jake 8 Williamson, who will be the General Manager at the 9 facility -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What's his name? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Jake Williamson. And he'll be 12 here, and he will come to Commissioners Court in our December 13 meeting to introduce himself. But we were looking at the -- 14 the highest priority is to get the concession stand/catering 15 kitchen started, not necessarily completed. He has some idea 16 of what needs to be done, but the bare minimum, we need to 17 get plumbing and electrical into that, 'cause it was never 18 completed. Intentionally not completed. Tim and Jake went 19 through; they got some -- the contractors out there that Tim 20 uses and got some proposals, one from Hager Plumbing, one 21 from D.W. Electric, and one from Alva Hale -- 22 MR. BOLLIER: Mick Freed. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mick Freed. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is for electrical and 25 plumbing for the kitchen? 11-23-15 91 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: For the kitchen area, and 2 pouring a concrete slab on the outside, because right now 3 it's kind of not real healthy to have as much mud right 4 outside there. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, it's all part of that 6 same -- 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right, same area. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Got you. 9 MR. BOLLIER: About 1,200 square feet there. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 1,200 square feet of some 11 concrete right now that needs to be done. Of course, the 12 area was all torn up during the construction. Anyway, the 13 total amount of those proposals is $14,050. Now I'll turn it 14 over to Bob, 'cause there's also some -- some -- 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Pass that to Jody, please. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- sinks and some work 17 tables -- we have some at the Juvenile Detention Facility 18 that are not used, so -- and there may be some others that we 19 need to purchase. 20 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Which, on that avenue, I'll 21 remind you in the contract which we signed, they are 22 committed to spending -- 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 75. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- 75,000, less the 25 relocation cost of their general manager, towards capital 11-23-15 92 1 expenditures, mainly being the concession and catering area 2 at the facility. So, these costs will be paid to us in order 3 to pay for the cost of the concession area. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me review the bidding. 5 Let's see, I think when we looked at the multiple proposals, 6 some of them -- different contractors were bidding a certain 7 amount. Seemed like it was -- was it like 80,000 or 8 something they were going to -- 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It ended up 75. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: 75, okay. So, 75,000. But 11 the thing that they're deducting from that, the relocation? 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, I didn't realize that. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Of the general manager. 15 That's why, when we were talking, we weren't sure of the 16 number when we approved the contract. And I -- you may not 17 have been here that day. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think I wasn't, okay. 19 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And that 45,000 to 50,000 20 would have been -- what was the net number that was 21 available. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I see. Okay. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And the other part of it, 24 some of the items are basically being unused by the County 25 right now, over at part of the old Juvenile Detention Center. 11-23-15 93 1 They've looked at it. Tim took Jake over there to look at 2 what's there. There's some stainless steel sinks and stuff 3 like that that we can also utilize. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wasn't part of the contract 5 the agreement that we would put -- that we would do capital 6 improvements? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, $200,000 worth. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Over and above this. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Over and above this. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Which is the -- 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But that's not the subject of 12 this agenda item today. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It can be; it's all capital 14 improvement items out there. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I know, but right now we're 16 talking about -- 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask you a question. 18 Is the sinks and things over at the juvenile facility, is 19 that -- is that not a part of the garden issue -- the 20 Sheriff's garden issue? 21 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: To be perfectly honest, yes. 22 All those sinks, tables, everything are part of our garden 23 processing that we've been doing, that we keep the city 24 health inspector satisfied with, and we have been keeping 25 that up health inspection. It's all part of that, so it has 11-23-15 94 1 been being used. But -- and the deal is with that -- 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But they're for sale here? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. The sinks, the stoves, we 4 use all that in blanching and in freezing and processing, 5 'cause that's where we bring in volunteers to help. I can't 6 bring them into the secured area of what we have at the jail 7 to do it in just preparations, but the -- part of that is, at 8 least probably for the next 18 months to two years, the 9 garden, that's been shut down due to the construction project 10 coming on. Now that it's wintertime, it's over, and we'll 11 break ground and have all that area tore up, so I won't be 12 using it for the next 18 months to two years, probably, 13 during this construction phase. But, yes, that has all been 14 part of our processing stuff for the garden. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, can you spare it? 16 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, I mean, you know, it's 17 not going to -- it's county property. It was part of the 18 juvenile, so I don't really have a right to claim it, okay? 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, do you claim it, though? 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, no. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He uses it. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I use it, okay. It's just 23 that if we're able -- after the construction and expansion of 24 the jail, if we're able to continue with the garden, we will 25 still have to have a place that we can do that, and that's 11-23-15 95 1 not being built into the inside of the high security 2 facility. I can't do it in there with that type of stuff. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, Sheriff, what do you 4 think the -- I mean, are you -- you know, is it your intent 5 to try to have a garden again? 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If that's the case, I would 8 leave the sinks, and maybe use the tables. Because you don't 9 want to take sinks out and then reinstall sinks. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Then you got a year and a half 11 to figure out how to replace the tables, if need be. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The tables are -- so we can use 13 the tables, and just purchase the sinks from a restaurant 14 supply company. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And the stove and that. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We're not getting any stoves, 17 just sinks and -- so with the -- the labor -- well, the 18 electrical is all the outlets and lights and all that. The 19 plumbing would be the hookup, and then the concrete work 20 itself, I think. I'd like to probably -- I'm guessing that 21 6,000 should be sufficient to get sinks and tables that are 22 stainless steel. 23 MR. BOLLIER: I would hope so. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Up to that. I'll make a motion 25 to authorize up to $20,000 to be expended on the catering 11-23-15 96 1 kitchen at the Hill Country Youth Event Center, with those 2 funds to come out of the funds committed by Spectra Corp. as 3 part of our contract. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'll second that. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 6 commit $20,000 to be paid out of Spectra Corp.'s funds that 7 have been committed to that project, and all relating to this 8 item, Item 1.15 on the agenda. All right. Any further 9 discussion? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And just -- I should have 11 brought this up earlier. The reason, again, is our next 12 meeting -- or meeting in December is the 14th. Jake 13 Williamson will be here December 1st. We want to get things 14 moving. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right, okay. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Any further comments or discussion? 17 All right. There being none, those in favor of the motion, 18 signify by raising your right hand. 19 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 20 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I do have a question. The 22 -- if my memory serves me at all any more, the catering 23 kitchen was one issue, and then there was a partition was 24 another issue. Where are we with partitions? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The partition is the -- there's 11-23-15 97 1 an RFP. That was a lot more difficult RFP to put together 2 than I think Bob and I thought, 'cause we had to get the 3 actual drawings of what's there. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And trying to find drawings 6 from that building have not -- has been a challenge. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Uh-oh. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, anyway, we have all the 9 information. Heather has prepared the RFP now, and we will 10 put that out pretty quick. But that's got to be -- 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That money's coming out of 12 the same pot? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It will come out of the 200,000 14 that we've committed. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: For that project. And it's 17 pretty much ready. 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Seems like those two items 19 were a priority -- 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They were. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- to everybody. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just to enhance where you can 24 rent it or utilize it better. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think when he gets here 11-23-15 98 1 in January, he can probably give us a little bit of 2 visibility into the benefits of that partition, as far as 3 increased renting and so forth. 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And that's what they're 5 planning, so you could have two events going on at one time. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 7 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And he will be on -- he's -- 8 Jake has leased an apartment here. He will be traveling the 9 end of this week from Colorado to Kerrville, and will be on 10 full-time December 1st. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. But I'm saying -- but 12 he could give us some visibility into the benefits of having 13 that partition and -- 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Absolutely. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That would be good. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And his direction, he's talked 17 with folks within their organization, and what they're 18 planning on recommending we authorize or approve are buying 19 those roll-around warmers that you see. And also -- that, 20 and some roll-around refrigeration. And also, something that 21 I hadn't ever even thought of, but some -- I guess you call 22 them food carts, so you can move -- rather than having all 23 the concessions right there, you could take it out into the 24 crowd a little bit. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 11-23-15 99 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Which they say is very 2 successful at other venues that they have. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I've seen that in venues, 4 right. Good. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's what they're looking at. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Is Jake going to be here full-time 8 for this project, or is he splitting time? 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's here. He's here. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. And he's -- 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's ready to get here. 12 MR. BOLLIER: Can I go ahead and order these, Jon? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 14 MR. BOLLIER: That's all I need to know. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What was that? 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Item 1.16; consider, discuss, and 17 take appropriate action on joint resolution of the City of 18 Kerrville, Kerr County, Kerrville Independent School 19 District, and Kerrville Public Utility Board supporting the 20 adoption of the Rural Project Plan under consideration by the 21 Texas Department of Transportation. Commissioner Letz. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This got complicated a little 23 bit by City Council, where they -- well, one, they didn't 24 attach the final version of the resolution that I sent over 25 the Monday before their meeting, and then at the meeting, 11-23-15 100 1 they modified the exhibit to the resolution. And I think you 2 have both of these. All -- everyone has both what was 3 originally sent over to them, and then what they passed in 4 the packet. You know, I can't go along with how they changed 5 the exhibit. What they -- essentially, what they did, on the 6 resolution itself, it's pretty minor. The differences are 7 under the "Now, therefore." I think it was a recommendation 8 that Commissioner Moser made to list the entity's name before 9 the three priority items, so it would say, "Kerrville 10 Independent School District, construct sidewalks in areas of 11 local schools," and then the second one is City of Kerrville, 12 and the third one was Kerr County. On the attachment, the 13 changes that were made by City Council, they moved the -- I 14 don't have the current one here, but they moved the 15 project -- the timing of the Harper Road underpass to 16 immediate, and they moved it from -- and it was, I think, two 17 years originally, or one year, the original one. And then 18 they added -- they split out another category, and added in, 19 "Construct service roads to extend from the Harper Highway 20 interchanges to Loop 534," and they put that as two years. 21 And that moved it in my -- as I look at it, that is kind of 22 setting priorities. They moved that up. But the one that we 23 had, which is our number one priority, the Highway 27 from 24 Kerrville to Center Point, it says two to five years. So, by 25 them changing those dates, to me, it changed the priority 11-23-15 101 1 which was in the agreement we had. Or I'd say -- and we 2 just -- Dr. Troxel, Tracy from KPUB -- is McCuan his last 3 name? -- McCuan, and, I mean, it was the mayor and myself 4 were at the meeting. It wasn't like there were, you know, a 5 big group. So, my recommendation is that we go back to our 6 original resolution, pass it, and we'll be the only one to 7 sign. The schools can do what they want. KPUB has already 8 signed one that the City passed. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I agree with you. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: I do too. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Well, you know, what -- what 12 does that mean as far as the overpass at 10 and Harper Road? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It will be listed as -- as we 14 had it. I-10, Harper Highway overpass, lower pavement 15 section -- 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Right. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Lower pavement section under 18 overpass, raise to 16 feet, 3 inches in two years. And then 19 it'll have -- 20 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: How did that get changed to 21 immediate? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They did it at City Council. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Wonder who would add 24 something like that. I can't believe it. Two years? 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Two is what we had in the 11-23-15 102 1 original -- the one that we sent over to them. And then the 2 new I.H. 10 overpass, construct new overpass -- construction 3 of new overpass between Harper Road and State Highway 16, was 4 five to seven years. They did split out a separate item of a 5 service road. Construct service roads to extend from Harper 6 Highway to Loop 534 is two years. So, they added that as a 7 separate line item. And that wasn't -- I can see adding that 8 as a separate line item -- line, because that is not clearly 9 identified in the others, and that was the intent by the 10 City, I think, to have that listed, but I don't agree with 11 the two years. To me, that should be, you know, no more than 12 two to five years, which is what we have, the same. I just 13 can't put -- I can't put a -- what I call economic 14 development project above a safety project. And I think the 15 schools and Highway 27 are both safety-related. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I agree with you. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And you feel that especially 18 on 27, I'm assuming, because of Avery's being put in, the 19 number of new employees that are going to be trying to drive 20 that road between Kerrville and Center Point, plus the danger 21 as you go east? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's the fatalities we've had. 23 It's the excess traffic and fatalities. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: A bunch of things. You got 25 the sewer stuff going in down there, got Avery's, got the 11-23-15 103 1 potential at Mooney for the new facility, we've got a new 2 quarry operation west of Guadalupe Heights. There's a lot of 3 stuff going on on 27 there that's safety-related, right. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's an unsafe drive 5 anyway, just -- it's ugly looking down that road. 'Cause I 6 want to look over at the jets, see who's in town. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, I guess the easiest way 8 would be to adopt the Exhibit A that the City passed, but 9 change the I-10/Harper Road to one year or two year, and then 10 change the construct service road extending from Harper Road 11 to Loop 534 to two to five years. That's what we -- 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Was that the original? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess the Harper Road was two 14 -- listed as two years, so it should be two, and two to five. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: So, it sounds like the general 16 consensus is that we do change that and pass it as changed. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I'll make a motion that 18 we approve the final resolution that I sent over to the City 19 of Kerrville, which everyone has a copy of, and then we'll 20 modify Exhibit A that the City passed to have, under the I-10 21 section, I-10/Harper Road highway overpass, time framework 22 will be two years. Service road will be two to five years. 23 The new I.H. 10 overpass, five to seven years, and the 24 diamond interchange at I-10/Harper Road, seven to ten years. 25 Everything should be as it was originally put together. 11-23-15 104 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Is there a second? 2 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, it's been moved and 4 seconded that -- that we adopt the resolution as amended, as 5 Commissioner Letz read it into the record. And is there any 6 further discussion or comment? 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The original document that 8 we're talking about going back to, is that -- was that 9 adopted in a meeting with Dr. Troxel and City and everybody? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The original one, Dr. Troxel 11 was not at that meeting. Actually, the last meeting, the 12 City wrote a resolution; I amended the draft. Dr. Troxel 13 sent an e-mail out that he supported my changes, and then I 14 never heard back from -- I can't remember if I heard back 15 from the -- from KPUB or not, or the City, but the City went 16 ahead -- the City had no problem with the changes to the 17 resolution. It was just -- 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: KPUB was in on the original 19 one too? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yeah. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further discussion 23 or comments about the motion? There being none, those in 24 favor, signify by raising your right hand. 25 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 11-23-15 105 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. Let's go to 2 Item 1.18; consider, discuss, and take appropriate action to 3 set the date for the annual Kerr County Christmas party, and 4 which I think Commissioner Reeves is -- and Letz are going to 5 do the cooking this year? 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well -- 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He doesn't know if he trusts me 8 cooking. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No, but I just want you up 10 that early to help us. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: I got there last year at 2:30. 12 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yeah, you beat me there. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's a.m.? 14 JUDGE POLLARD: a.m. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: First of all, the date that 16 we would like to propose would be Friday, December 18th. The 17 other part is -- and Jody may can help me out on this. Once 18 again, we would like the elected officials and department 19 heads to contribute an amount between -- 20 MS. GRINSTEAD: 25 to 50. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- $25 to $50. I would like 22 to point out that none of the Christmas party is paid for 23 through tax dollars. It is all paid for through the Healthy 24 County initiatives that our Treasurer and Human Resources 25 officer accumulate through various programs, and that's what 11-23-15 106 1 the money can be used for. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Ms. White, before you leave, we 3 want to invite you to our Christmas party too. 4 MS. WHITE: Thank you. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Please come. 6 MS. WHITE: Would you give me the date? I didn't 7 write it down. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: About 5 a.m. December 18th. 9 (Laughter.) 10 MS. WHITE: I'll stay up. Thank you very much, 11 Judge. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: We will be -- we haven't 14 narrowed down what I will be cooking yet; we're looking at 15 the prices. But I do have two celebrity chefs, if you will. 16 One is Trey McMinn, which is Bruce Oehler's son-in-law. The 17 other one will be Justin Foster from Community First National 18 Bank. And Centennial Bank is bringing their big pit, so 19 it'll be a good community effort. But we do need to approve 20 to set the date for the party. And what else do we need to 21 get done, Jody? 22 MS. GRINSTEAD: I think that's it. Mainly set the 23 date so we can -- I've got some good donations so far. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that a motion? 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So moved. 11-23-15 107 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we set 3 the date. At 5 a.m.? (Laughter.) 4 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I believe -- 5 MS. GRINSTEAD: 11:30. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- 11:30. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: 11:30 for the Christmas party on 8 December the 18th. Friday, December the 18th. Any further 9 comment or discussion? If not, then those in favor, signify 10 by raising your right hand. 11 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 12 JUDGE POLLARD: 4-0, unanimous. Look forward to 13 it, guys. Thank you very much. All right. We're going to 14 go -- let's get down and pay the bills. Then we'll talk 15 about -- do we have anything to go into executive session 16 for? 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We do not have anything. 18 MS. STEBBINS: No. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: We do not? All right. Let's go 20 pay the bills. Anybody have any questions or comments about 21 the bills? 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move we pay the bills. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we pay 25 the bills as presented. Any further discussion? There being 11-23-15 108 1 none, those in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: It's 4-0, unanimous. 4.2, budget 4 amendments. County Auditor. 5 MS. DOSS: We have three budget amendments. Two 6 are from the Maintenance Department. He chose to pay out 7 some of his comp time, so we're moving some from one 8 department to another department. And then one is for the 9 liability insurance for the County Judge; we're moving it 10 from nondepartmental to departmental, so -- to his 11 department, so we will get it in the budget next year. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So moved. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that the 15 budget amendments be approved as indicated. Any further 16 discussion? There being none, those in favor, signify by 17 raising your right hand. 18 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Late bills. 20 MS. DOSS: We have one, Environmental Health. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move we pay the late bills. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we pay 24 the late bills. Any further discussion or comment? There 25 being none, those in favor, signify by raising your right 11-23-15 109 1 hand. 2 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Approve and accept 4 monthly reports. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: J.P., Precinct 3, amended 6 report for the month of October 2015; Constable, Precinct 3, 7 for the month of October 2015; Kerr County Sheriff's audit of 8 the procedures and operations of the commissary account for 9 the period of October 1, 2014, through September 30, 2015; 10 County Clerk monthly report, October 2015; County Treasurer 11 monthly report, October 2015. Move to accept as read, and 12 sign as needed. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that we 15 accept the reports as -- as presented and approved. Is there 16 any further discussion or comment? There being none, those 17 in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 18 (The motion carried by unanimous vote, 4-0.) 19 JUDGE POLLARD: It is 4-0, unanimous. Reports from 20 Commissioners, liaison/committee assignments, per attachment. 21 We'll start with Commissioner 1. 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have nothing, thank you. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Two? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Nothing, thank you. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: I have nothing. 11-23-15 110 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Nothing. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Just one comment. The 3 Auditor mentioned to me this morning, I believe, that at the 4 last meeting we approved authorizing the Auditor's office to 5 perform an audit on ESD Number 2. They will not be required 6 by law this year, because they have no more indebtedness. 7 So, therefore, we don't need any action; I just wanted to 8 bring that. It's a great thing when you don't have any debt. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fantastic. That's Mountain 10 Home? 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, sir. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any other reports of 13 any kind? Reports from elected officials/department heads? 14 Sheriff? 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Just a couple updates real 16 quick. First of all, the burn-in of the radio tower system 17 is still going real well. We are having to tweak and -- and 18 retune and things like that several of the car radios, but 19 that's a -- the current radios, we've always had the cars in 20 the system. But that is getting done. We have gotten all 21 the equipment and everything off the Elm Pass tower site, so 22 we will be totally out of that lease now. We had already 23 sent them notice, but we are officially off of that as of 24 Friday. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: What's the target -- turnkey 11-23-15 111 1 target date to have everything up and running? 2 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: It's pretty close now. Within 3 the next couple weeks, we'll be done. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Fantastic. 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I'll bring it -- it will come 6 to Commissioners Court at your next meeting to actually sign 7 the acceptance agreement, so we'll be past the 30-day deal. 8 I noticed this morning y'all had a lot of talk about vets and 9 our veteran services and that. One thing I think that the 10 Court ought to be aware of is our Legislature, this last 11 time, enacted new legislation that requires the jail to be 12 involved in all veterans services. From now on, everybody 13 that's booked in jail, we have to send them off to a -- their 14 names off to a database that is a national veterans database. 15 We have to get a return from that. Trolinger had to go 16 through training with I.T. with data entry into that federal 17 database. And, you know, every veteran that comes to the 18 jail, the jail has to assure that they are given all the -- a 19 card that's actually issued by the Commission on Jail 20 Standards telling them where all they can get services, and 21 making sure they get their services afforded to them. I 22 disagreed that that was part of the jail's problem, but 23 there's not much I could do about that, so it's just another 24 one of those added hoops that jails are having to go through 25 to assure a lot of this stuff. 11-23-15 112 1 One update I think you ought to know about, 'cause 2 it was something that has always been looming over us since 3 2002. There could be a capital trial that could seriously 4 cost this county. I don't know how many of y'all will recall 5 the rape/murder -- double rape/murder that we had off Elm 6 Pass -- I mean off Goat Creek Road in 2002, and which the 7 suspect was a man by the name of Juan Castanon. That case 8 was solved. An arrest warrant here -- capital murder arrest 9 warrant was issued for Juan Castanon back then. It turned 10 out he was in this country illegally from Mexico, and he had 11 a relative in this country that was in this country legally 12 from Mexico that took him back to the Mexican border and 13 dropped him off after our rape/murder, and we've been trying 14 to get him out of Mexico ever since. We never knew what 15 happened. Trying to get communication between us and the 16 Mexican authorities, it's been interesting. We weren't 17 really willing to waive our capital death penalty case here 18 due to the gruesomeness and the viciousness of that attack. 19 The District Attorney at that time, Ron Sutton, and his 20 office and my office all filled out and went through the 21 hoops with the -- the FBI and our Department of Justice 22 nationally, and the Attorney General's office in Mexico and 23 their Department of Justice, and they did what's called an 24 Article IV, which an Article IV is that D.A.'s office had to 25 go to Mexico City, meet with the Attorney General; we had to 11-23-15 113 1 certify and get all of our case file, everything translated 2 into Spanish by Court-accepted translator in Spanish in their 3 courts, and ask them that if they would not let us extradite 4 him, and if he were ever apprehended in Mexico, and if we 5 weren't going to waive our death penalty case, would they 6 prosecute him in Mexico for our rape/murders in Texas? And I 7 got word last week finally that on September the 17th, I 8 believe, of this year, of 2015, Mr. Castanon had -- and they 9 didn't notify us -- had been arrested in 2010 in Mexico for a 10 Mexican-issued federal warrant concerning our rape/murders in 11 this -- in this county. And that conviction -- or that 12 trial, they said, prosecution started back then. Prosecution 13 ended September of this year in Mexico, and he was sentenced 14 to 46 years in a Mexican prison for the rape/murder of two 15 women in our county. And I think that is a good justice. I 16 don't think he will survive a 46-year prison term in a 17 Mexican prison. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: He was -- before he was arrested, 19 he was employed as a police officer down in Mexico? 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No, this is a different -- 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Different one? 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is a different one. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This one I felt was a serial 25 rapist/killer in this county that occurred. 11-23-15 114 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So, 47 years is a death 2 penalty? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, I don't know how it 4 would work in Mexico prisons, but I -- from what I understand 5 of them, it's not going to be a -- a time like they have in 6 U.S. prisons. But -- so I think it is justice. It will save 7 this county. We're in the process now -- F.B.I. got us that 8 information last week, and we are in the process now of 9 attempting to get certified documents of their court, okay, 10 documents showing all of that, so that we can have them in 11 our case files, at which time the 198th District Attorney 12 will probably dismiss our local charges, and the FBI will 13 dismiss our federal flight from justice -- fugitive from 14 justice charges so that we can close that case out. But I 15 think that was a good outcome. It just took a long time to 16 -- to get there. But he is at least in custody and serving 17 time in Mexican prison. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Sheriff, there was a murder, I 19 believe, in the city of Kerrville last week? 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yes. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that a capital -- will that 22 be a capital murder or not? 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: As far as I know, no, that 24 hasn't gone to the grand jury yet. But as far as everything 25 that we know and that, no, that is going to be a first-degree 11-23-15 115 1 murder case. We currently have at least four in custody on 2 murder charges. One's on a parole violation from a prior 3 murder conviction, but there's three in custody on murder 4 charges that are yet to be tried in this county. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: What happened to the one that -- 6 where he became a Mexican policemen down there? Was there 7 any disposition? 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: He's sitting on death -- I 9 think, if that's the one I remember, okay, I believe he is 10 still probably on death row in -- in T.D.C. here, okay. That 11 was one that -- that may have been the one that killed Victor 12 Lich -- not Victor Lich. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Glen. 14 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Glen Lich. 15 MS. LAVENDER: He was executed. 16 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Has he been executed? I 17 wasn't sure. We brought him back -- 18 MS. LAVENDER: He's been executed, trust me. 19 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I haven't had that 20 notification. I know they tried to change it over mental 21 stability and that, the last I heard. That's right, he was. 22 I do recall that now, okay. But those are the main things. 23 We are in the process of going through training for issuance 24 of body cams. We do have body cams for patrol officers; they 25 will be issued in the next few weeks. I know that the 11-23-15 116 1 policies that I drew up have even been looked at by the 2 County and District Attorneys on the use of them. There is a 3 lot to using a body cam, different than the vehicle cams. 4 And other than that -- 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I don't know what the 6 argument is about that. That sounds like -- seems like to me 7 it's a smart thing to do. 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, there -- there is, and 9 I'll go into it real quick, just so you understand just a 10 little bit of it, okay? It's simple to put them on. If you 11 turn them off, then you've got the deal where -- where the 12 officer's hiding evidence, not recording what should have 13 been recorded, exculpatory evidence, and with a lot of 14 legislation being that everything has to be turned over. But 15 to give you an example, if I go to your -- your neighbor's 16 residence at 9 o'clock at night and work in a burglary case, 17 I've got that body cam on, and I'm working that burglary, so 18 that I'm filming the neighbor in that case. But as far as 19 our procedures of canvassing the neighborhood and trying to 20 see, you know, did anybody else see anything, I walk from 21 their residence to your residence, and I knock on the door, 22 and your wife answers at the door in her nightgown or 23 whatever. Plus now I'm also filming the entire inside of 24 your residence, okay, and your wife in a nightgown. And 25 under a lot of Open Records stuff, that could end up on 11-23-15 117 1 social media. I don't think you or anybody else would feel 2 happy. 3 Or if we have an accident scene where somebody's 4 charged with intoxication or DWI, and they're injured, and we 5 go to the hospital, and you're wearing that body cam and it's 6 got a microphone and everything else, and you're in the 7 hospital trying to read the guys rights while he's being 8 treated for a minor injury, and you catch somebody else in 9 another cubicle there or something else, a doctor explaining 10 their illnesses or a photograph of them or anything. Now 11 you've got HIPPA violations that could all end up on social 12 media nowadays. So, there's a lot. When should it be turned 13 off? When do you have that control? 'Cause a car video, 14 it's a video in a car, and the officer doesn't have a choice 15 on whether that's turned off on not. But some of this can 16 get real technical on how do we protect privacy rights, but 17 yet still be able to do our job without -- excluding out what 18 could be exculpatory evidence. That's where it really gets 19 hard to draw up these policies. Thank you, gentlemen. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Sheriff. Anybody else 21 have any reports? Yes? 22 MS. LAVENDER: Following up on what he said, I went 23 to AACOG week before last, and I was just going to tell you, 24 the community plan system that we've had forever has been 25 changed. Instead of us having to produce a document each 11-23-15 118 1 year to turn in to AACOG, they're going to go to a program 2 where they use Survey Monkey, and they're going to send out a 3 questionnaire to agencies and anybody else, a lot of people 4 in the 13-county area. And then AACOG is going to take all 5 of the results of that survey and put it together and put -- 6 put a Regional Priorities Plan for the Criminal Justice 7 Advisory Committee and for others that get grants through the 8 Governor's office. So, it's going to reduce the work 9 locally, but it's going to increase the work for AACOG to put 10 together all these things. So, some of y'all will be getting 11 surveys to fill out. They're kind of lengthy, but I think 12 it'll be a good, valuable experience, and I know will 13 certainly cut down on the amount of work that we have to do 14 locally to do it. 15 And one of the things that we talked about in that 16 meeting in relationship to the body cameras is an issue 17 that's going to come up, and that's the storage of the media 18 that's produced by these body cams is going to become a major 19 issue as time goes on, because you have to store everything 20 for criminal justice purposes also. And there's probably 21 going to be some grant money available to address that issue 22 for agencies. Some agencies are probably going to have 23 funding for the body cameras themselves, but also the media 24 storage is another issue that's going to need to be 25 addressed. But, anyway, just to let you know that, you know, 11-23-15 119 1 the process is going to change. We're on top of it. We know 2 what is going to happen, and it's going to be a different 3 community planning system done from here on out. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Anybody else, or any further 5 reports of any kind? 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: They're still working on the 7 final contract stuff and everything on the jail construction. 8 I hope to have that by the next Commissioners Court meeting, 9 but we'll be able to go through -- but it is in the process. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Anything else from any of the 11 Commissioners? Then we're adjourned. 12 (Commissioners Court adjourned at 11:58 a.m.) 13 - - - - - - - - - - 14 STATE OF TEXAS | 15 COUNTY OF KERR | 16 The above and foregoing is a true and complete 17 transcription of my stenotype notes taken in my capacity as 18 official reporter for the Commissioners Court of Kerr County, 19 Texas, at the time and place heretofore set forth. 20 DATED at Kerrville, Texas, this 30th day of November, 21 2015. 22 23 REBECCA BOLIN, Kerr County Clerk 24 BY: _________________________________ Kathy Banik, Deputy County Clerk 25 Certified Shorthand Reporter 11-23-15