1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, May 9, 2016 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: TOM POLLARD, Kerr County Judge H. A. "BUSTER" BALDWIN, Commissioner Pct. 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Pct. 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Pct. 3 25 BOB REEVES, Commissioner Pct. 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Call to Order 5 4 *** Commissioners' Comments 5 5 1.1 Public Hearing regarding the Revision of 6 Plat for Lots 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Dewberry 6 Hollow Section One, Plat Record Volume 3, Page 89, Pct. 1. 7 1.2 Public Hearing for a petition to vacate, 7 8 abandon, and discontinue Lisa Lane (previously named Park Place in the plat 9 of Ingram Industrial Park), Pct. 4. 10 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 7 action for a petition to vacate, abandon 11 and discontinue Lisa Lane (previously named Park Place in the plat of Ingram Industrial 12 Park), Pct. 4. 13 1.4 Public Hearing for a petition to vacate, 9 abandon and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion 14 of the end of Ginger Road, Pct. 1. 15 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 10 action on update regarding the Kerr County 16 2015 Health Report. 17 1.4 Public Hearing for a petition to vacate, 17 abandon and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion 18 of the end of Ginger Road, Pct. 1. 19 1.5 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 18 action for a petition to vacate, abandon, 20 and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion of the end of Ginger Road, Pct. 1. 21 1.6 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 20 22 action for the Court to accept the Alternate Plats for Turtle Creek Ranches 23 Tract 186-R1 and Tract 187-R1, Pct.1. 24 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 22 action regarding the Hazard Mitigation 25 Action Plan and Flood Warning System. 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.7 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 39 action for the Courts' Final Approval 4 regarding the Revision of Plat for Lots 31 & 32 of The Reserve at Falling Water 5 Subdivision, Plat Record Volume 7, Pages 215-217, Pct. 3. 6 1.11 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 40 7 action on Mass Gathering Permit for the Kerrville Music Festival. 8 1.12 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 44 9 action to request unclaimed Capital Credits received from Electric Cooperative 10 pursuant to Section 74.602 of the Texas Property Code, from the Texas Comptroller 11 of Public Accounts, and authorize Judge Pollard to sign request form. 12 1.13 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 45 13 action to determine whether to allow retail fireworks permit holders to sell 14 fireworks to the public in celebration of Memorial Day, beginning May 25, 2016 and 15 ending midnight on May 30, 2016, pursuant to Texas Occupation Code, Section 2154.202(h). 16 1.14 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 47 17 action on request from Community Council of South Central Texas, Inc. to approve a 18 Resolution declaring the month of May, 2016 as Community Action Month. 19 4.1 Pay bills. 48 20 4.2 Budget Amendments. 49 21 4.3 Late Bills. 49 22 4.4 Approve and accept Monthly Reports. 50 23 4.5 Auditor Reports. 51 24 5.1 Reports from Commissioners/Liaison 51 25 Committee Assignments as per attachment. 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 5.2 Reports from Elected Officials/Department 55 Heads. 4 5.3 Reports from Boards, Commissions and 60 5 Committees. a). City/County Joint Projects or 6 Operations Reports b). Other 7 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 66 8 action regarding Memorial Day and 4th of July Events. 9 *** Adjournment 70 10 * * * * * * 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 5 1 JUDGE POLLARD: It's May the 9th, 2016, and 2 the Kerr County Court is in session. We'll start off 3 with Commissioner Letz leading us. 4 (Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance.) 5 JUDGE POLLARD: This is the part where the 6 citizens can come forward and speak on any item that is 7 not listed on the agenda. If you wish to speak then 8 step forward to the podium, identify yourself, state 9 your address. And I thought the Sheriff was stepping 10 up? 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: And limit yourself please to 13 three minutes. Is there anyone wishing to speak? Well 14 we're not being overrun by folks for that. 15 So we'll go on to Commissioners and County 16 Judge comments. We'll start with Commissioner 1. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Judge, I don't have 18 anything right now. I'd like to reserve it for later, 19 please. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I'm going to do the 22 same thing. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. I'll do the same 24 thing. This is a favorite trick of lawyers, they 25 reserve it to the closing argument. 6 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We learn. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I want to 3 congratulate Bonnie White on her successful race, and be 4 our new Mayor of Kerrville. Wish her all the luck as 5 well as co-council over there. And it was a little bit 6 contested, and that is part of the reason the words I 7 used in my prayers that we all do what need to work 8 together, elected officials. I mean the Council needs 9 to work together, we need to work with Council. And I 10 think it's a time to move forward and all of that. But 11 I do want to congratulate her, and also Councilman Stork 12 and Councilman Allen for winning as well. That's it. 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And just follow-up on 14 Commissioner Letz over there. In the City of Ingram, 15 they too had a couple contested elections. I 16 congratulate Mayor Rowan for re-election, he was just 17 appointed, and the other Council members that were 18 elected, and echo his thoughts that we need to all 19 remember to work together and work on it. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Very good. All right, let's 21 go to item 1.1. This is a public hearing regarding the 22 revision of plat for lots 13, 14, 17, and 18 of Dewberry 23 Hollow, section one, plat record volume 3, page 89, 24 Precinct 1. This is a public hearing. I declare the 25 public hearing open, is there anybody wish to speak to 7 1 this issue? Overrun again. I declare the public 2 meeting closed. 3 Item 1.2 public hearing for a petition to 4 vacate, abandon, and discontinue Lisa Lane, previously 5 named Park Place in the plat of Ingram Industrial Park, 6 Precinct 4. I declare the public hearing open. Is 7 there anyone wishing to speak to this issue? 8 MR. LESLIE: Well, Your Honor, we're here on 9 behalf of the Petitioner on this matter, and we're just 10 asking the Court to abandon this road, because it's not 11 used by the public, it's surrounded on one side by Lisa 12 and JoAnn, who are the part of the applicant sisters, 13 and then Bobby Jacks owns the other side of the road. 14 And it's a very short little road. It's running between 15 two other public roads and it's just not used. And 16 we're asking it be abandoned. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you. Anybody else 18 wishing to speak on that issue? If not, I'll close that 19 public hearing. 20 All right let's go to item 1.3 consider, 21 discuss and take appropriate action for a petition to 22 vacate, abandon and discontinue Lisa Lane, previously 23 named Park Place, in the plat of Ingram Industrial Park, 24 Precinct 4, Mr. Hastings. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. The Jacks' 8 1 family property's legal counsel, Craig Leslie who just 2 spoke submitted a petition on their behalf to vacate, 3 abandon and discontinue Lisa Lane from Cindy Jacks Drive 4 to Lafayette Drive. The petition was posted at both 5 ends of Lisa Lane and at the Kerr County Courthouse by 6 Lee Voelkel on March 25th, 2016. There's some pictures 7 in your packet, and is an affidavit of posting of the 8 notice. Lisa Lane is part of the Ingram Industrial Park 9 Subdivision. It was platted in 1987 as Park Lane. The 10 name was changed to Lisa Lane after 911 to help with 11 emergency service response times. 12 Lisa Lane is a public road privately 13 maintained, approximately 0.09 miles long, about 23 feet 14 wide and it was paved. If abandon the Jacks' family 15 properties wish to expand their existing business north 16 across Lisa Lane. Access would be maintained from Cindy 17 Jacks Drive and Lafayette Drive. A public hearing 18 regarding this request was just held. Road and Bridge 19 request the Court to consider, discuss and take 20 appropriate action for petition to vacate, abandon and 21 discontinue Lisa Lane, previously named Park Place in 22 the plat of Ingram Industrial Park, Precinct 4. 23 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Mr. Hastings, and I 24 have along with counsel for the Jacks' and the County 25 Attorney have met several times on this. I believe all 9 1 requirements have been met, Miss Stebbins? 2 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes, Sir, that's correct. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Therefore I move to 4 approve that agenda item as written. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner 7 Precinct 4, seconded by Commissioner Precinct 1, that we 8 abandon and discontinue Lisa Lane previously named Park 9 Place in the plat of Ingram Industrial Park. Is there 10 any further discussion? 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'd like to include 12 the word vacate in just -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Vacate, abandon and 14 discontinue. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, Sir. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Is that agreeable with the 17 second? 18 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, Sir. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Any further 20 discussion? There being none, those in favor of the 21 motion, signify by raising your right hand. It's four 22 zero, unanimous. 23 Item 1.4. The public hearing for a petition 24 to vacate, abandon and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion 25 of the end of Ginger Road in Precinct 1, Mr. Hastings. 10 1 Well, this is a public hearing. I declare the public 2 hearing open. Does anybody wish to speak to this issue? 3 There being no one, I close the public hearing and 4 proceed to item 1.5 consider, discuss and take 5 appropriate action for a petition to vacate, abandon and 6 discontinue a 0.12 mile portion of the end of Ginger 7 Road, Precinct 1. 8 MRS. STEBBINS: Judge Pollard, this is a 9 timed item at 9:15. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, okay, we'll hold it 11 back and do it at that time. Next one is 9:15 as well, 12 9:20, 9:25. 13 I guess we'll jump to 1.8 consider, discuss 14 and take appropriate action update regarding Kerr County 15 2015 health report. Rebecca Patterson. 16 MS. PATTERSON: Good morning. My name's 17 Rebecca Patterson, I'm the public health nurse for Kerr 18 and Gillespie Counties. Can I pass these out to you 19 guys? 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Sure. 21 MS. PATTERSON: There are three documents 22 here. There's some Zika information, and our 2015 23 annual report, and I'm not going to go over the report 24 in great detail. I just kind of wanted to give you guys 25 an update in what me and my office are doing in Kerr 11 1 County. 2 First I want to talk about the 1115 Waiver 3 Project. It's a project where we are testing and 4 treating for tuberculosis. We've had several confirmed 5 cases of latent tuberculosis, which my office is 6 treating. And the goal is to eventually eradicate 7 tuberculosis. May not happen in our lifetime, but 8 hopefully it will happen soon. 9 So our office, we have a certified car seat 10 tech in our office, and we do hold car seat events, and 11 we teach the parents how to properly install the car 12 seats and put children in properly. The goal is to have 13 the children leave safer than they arrive. 14 And the period of purple crying is a program 15 that we have recently implemented. I go to a conference 16 for daycare workers and I present this program, and what 17 it is is teaching parents about their babies crying, and 18 that it's okay for them to cry, it's okay to be 19 frustrated, it's okay to walk away. And it's basically 20 to prevent shaken baby syndrome. 21 I currently am the presiding officer for the 22 Kerr County Child Fatality Review Team. We have had 23 several sleep related deaths with babies sleeping with 24 their parents, or you know, co sleeping or sleeping with 25 cribs that have too much stuff, so they suffocate, they 12 1 die of SIDS. I've also been going out in the community 2 and teaching about safe sleep for babies, and how to 3 prevent SIDS. So that's been a big deal in our 4 community here lately. And I'm proud to be a part of 5 educating the community on preventing that. 6 My office does STD testing and treatment. 7 We've been going into sober living houses and drug and 8 alcohol rehabs teaching about STD's testing and 9 treating. So we're trying to prevent the spread of 10 that. 11 Let's see what else I have on my list. 12 Okay, rabies. If you will look on the Kerr County 13 report it looks like this, I stuffed it inside the 14 annual report. And in 2015 there have been 31 rabies 15 investigations conducted, with 25 positive animals 16 identified. It's mostly been skunks. But last month we 17 had a big case in Ingram where a skunk -- a dog got in a 18 fight with a skunk, the dog got rabies, and there was 19 puppies. I don't think any of the puppies were 20 confirmed with rabies, but there were several people 21 that came in contact with these -- the dog and the 22 puppies, so they were all treated. But I just kind of 23 want to encourage people to get your dogs vaccinated so 24 that we don't have the rabies spreading to people. 25 Let's see, Zika, I gave you guys Zika 13 1 information. We have not had any Zika in Kerr County. 2 It is possible that Zika will spread to Kerr County 3 though because of our international travel. I myself 4 just went to South America last month where Zika is 5 prevalent. It's -- I mean it happens. I could have 6 contracted Zika and brought it back, but I didn't, 7 because I used bug spray while I was there. People who 8 are traveling internationally when they come back they 9 need to use bug spray for at least a week because the 10 Zika virus will stay in their bodies for a week. 11 So also in and around our homes if there's 12 standing water for mosquitoes to breed, we need to make 13 sure, go at it from a prevention way and pour out 14 standing water so that mosquitoes aren't going to breed 15 in our County and spread this disease. 16 So at this time, I'd like to open up for any 17 questions, if you guys have any questions for me about 18 what we're doing. Yes, Sir. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: A couple questions. 20 MS. PATTERSON: Yes, Sir. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You're an employee of 22 who? 23 MS. PATTERSON: State of Texas. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The State. 25 MS. PATTERSON: Yes. 14 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, and you're the 2 nurse for Gillespie and Kerr County? 3 MS. PATTERSON: Yes, Sir. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Thank you for 5 that information. 6 MS. PATTERSON: Sure. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The next question is on 8 the Zika virus. I hear things in the news, like it's no 9 big deal. You will be -- it's kind of a low grade 10 flu-type symptoms usually gone in a couple of days. 11 Pregnant women, you know, could have a problem with the 12 unborn, but that's an issue. What is the latest from 13 the State on this? Is it -- is it -- I mean you 14 produced a lot of stuff here, okay. Somebody spent a 15 lot of money on Zika virus work. It's not clear whether 16 it's an issue or not. 17 MS. PATTERSON: Okay. Well the symptoms of 18 Zika virus honestly, a lot of people -- like a normal 19 healthy adult that contracts a Zika virus, most people 20 won't even know they have it. If you know you have it 21 symptoms will be conjunctivitis, which is red eyes, 22 maybe a rash, some joint pain and some fever. It 23 usually -- the symptoms will usually go away in three 24 days to a week. The problem is that it's linked to 25 microcephaly in children, so pregnant -- in babies, so 15 1 pregnant women are the ones that we're really focused 2 on. We want to avoid pregnant women getting Zika 3 because we don't want our babies born with small brains. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There's been no reports 5 in the State of Texas, is that correct? 6 MS. PATTERSON: Not that I'm aware of. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, good deal. Thank 8 you. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Let's clarify that a little 10 bit. Let's say a pregnant woman gets bit by a mosquito 11 with a Zika virus, all right, she's going to have the 12 problem or not? The child is going to have the problem 13 or not? 14 MS. PATTERSON: The Zika virus can spread 15 from mom to baby. So we haven't had any cases in the 16 United States. I can't say definitively whether the 17 baby will get the Zika virus, but it's possible. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: So she goes to wherever you 19 went and gets bit by a mosquito there and comes back 20 home and becomes pregnant within a few days, the baby's 21 liable to have problems with that? 22 MS. PATTERSON: It's possible, yes, Sir. 23 JUDGE POLLARD: But the main problem is with 24 mosquitoes biting the babies, is that correct? 25 MS. PATTERSON: The problem is with 16 1 mosquitoes biting the pregnant mother. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. 3 MS. PATTERSON: And the virus being spread 4 that way to the babies. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: You mentioned -- you made a 6 comment about a big problem here in this community about 7 people sleeping with babies and maybe smothering them or 8 SIDS or something like that. 9 MS. PATTERSON: Co-sleeping, yes. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: Do you have any statistics 11 on that? How many cases? 12 MS. PATTERSON: How many cases of sleep 13 related deaths? 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 15 MS. PATTERSON: We had one in 2014. We 16 are -- next month we are holding our child fatality 17 review meeting to review the 2016 deaths. And I'm not 18 sure if we have any sleep related deaths from 2016 yet. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Just having one in 2014 20 makes it a big problem? 21 MS. PATTERSON: One is too many, yes, Sir. 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. I'm just trying to 23 get your definition of what a big problem is. 24 MS. PATTERSON: One child death is too many. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: I agree with that. But, 17 1 okay, it's not 25 or a hundred? 2 MS. PATTERSON: No, no, no, no. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, thank you. 4 Anybody else have any questions? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I appreciate you coming 6 and giving us a report. I don't recall the State nurse 7 for the Department of Health nurse coming and doing this 8 in the past, so I appreciate it. 9 MS. PATTERSON: Well, my goal is to do this 10 annually. I can come more often if you guys want. I 11 also put my business card in the annual report if you 12 have -- if you need anything, if you have any questions. 13 If there are things going on in the media like the Zika 14 virus and that kind of thing, if you'd like me to come 15 share information, I can do that. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, if there's a 17 situation that warrants a special meeting. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Ma'am. 19 MS. PATTERSON: You're very welcome. Thank 20 you. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: All right we can go back to 22 item 1.4 public hearing for petition to vacate and 23 discontinue 0.12 mile portion of the end of Ginger Road 24 in Precinct 1. I declare the public hearing open. 25 Anybody wish to speak to that issue? All right, nobody 18 1 speaks. I declare the public hearing closed. 2 Going to item 1.5. Which is consider, 3 discuss and take appropriate action for a petition to 4 vacate, abandon and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion of 5 the end of Ginger Road, Precinct 1, Charlie Hastings. 6 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. Ginger Road is a 7 public road, privately maintained and is unpaved. 8 You'll find in your packet a copy of a petition to 9 abandon, vacate and discontinue a portion of Ginger 10 Road, 0.12 mile portion. Additionally, a copy of the 11 affidavit of posting, which is dated March 17th, 2016, 12 is attached with pictures of the postings at the Kerr 13 County courthouse and both ends of the portion of Ginger 14 Road proposed to be abandoned. 15 The properties that generated this request 16 own property on both sides of the road and will indicate 17 this abandonment if approved on the alternate plat of 18 Turtle Creek Ranches, tract 186-R1 and tract 187-R1, 19 later on your agenda today. Road and Bridge requests 20 the Court to consider, discuss and take appropriate 21 action for petition to vacate, abandon and discontinue a 22 0.12 mile portion of the end of Ginger Road, Precinct 1. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner 19 1 Precinct 1, seconded by Commissioner Precinct 4, to 2 approval of item 1.5 on the agenda, to vacate, abandon 3 and discontinue a 0.12 mile portion of the end of Ginger 4 Road as described in the agenda package. Is there any 5 further discussion? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just have a question, 7 it's really a question for the gentleman who filed the 8 petition, and this is for informational purpose. Does 9 he go and file the documents with the County Clerk, or 10 do we do it as a court order is all that's needed, or is 11 there something that needs to be filed in the deed 12 records as well? 13 MRS. STEBBINS: The Court order needs to be 14 filed in the deed records. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The County do that, or 16 does the gentleman do that? 17 MRS. STEBBINS: I don't know. Historically, 18 I think that the -- since I've been here, I know that at 19 least one attorney has followed up to ask following the 20 Court's order, and they have ensured that it's been 21 filed in the deed records. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. So that after we 23 do the Court order they're responsible for getting it 24 into the deed records? 25 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes, Sir. 20 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Question, is there a 2 recording fee. Does the attorney pay that and the 3 applicant, or this is a County expense? 4 MRS. STEBBINS: I would imagine that the 5 applicant pays it. The law requires that it be filed in 6 the deed records, but I don't know, I've never had to 7 look at that. I'll look and see. But it's required to 8 be filed in there, this order is. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: My guess is it's a County 10 expense since it's a County order, at the end, but let's 11 find out. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Hope that 13 answered your question, sort of. 14 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. All right, any 15 further comments on the motion? Those in favor signify 16 by raising your right hand. It's four zero, unanimous. 17 1.6 consider, discuss and take appropriate 18 action for the Court to accept the alternate plat for 19 Turtle Creek Ranches tract 186-R1 and tract 187-R1 in 20 Precinct 1, Charlie Hastings. 21 MR. HASTINGS: This alternate plat creates 22 two tracts 186-R1, which is 10.46 acres, and 187-R1, 23 55.06 acres, owned by Jack and Nancy Cockrill, and Will 24 and Dorothy Schmidt, respectively. Both proposed tracts 25 are the remains of property that was formerly known as 21 1 Turtle Creek Ranches, tracts 186, 186-A, 187 and 187-A, 2 a subdivision that was never recorded. In addition, 3 this revision -- I'm sorry, this final plat will reflect 4 the abandonment of a portion of Ginger Road, an unpaved 5 public road that is privately maintained, since the 6 Court just approved that just a moment ago, and there 7 also is a note that is on the plat that allows the 8 County Clerk to put the Court order on the plat that 9 approves that abandonment. 10 Road and Bridge requests the Court to accept 11 the alternate plat for Turtle Creek ranches tract 186-R1 12 and tract 187-R1, Precinct 1. 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Do you have any 14 questions? 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No questions. 16 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Moved by Commissioner 20 Precinct 1, seconded by Commissioner Precinct 3 to 21 accept the alternate plat for the Turtle Creek Ranches 22 tract 186-R1 and tract 187-R1 in Precinct 1. Is there 23 any further discussion, comment or question? 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Did we read there 25 that this is the end of that subdivision, or how was 22 1 that worded? Both tracts are the remains of the 2 property. Is it -- everything's been -- 3 MR. HASTINGS: Both of these tracts are the 4 remains of tracts 186, 186-A, 187 and 187-A. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay, thank you. 6 JUDGE POLLARD: Any other questions or 7 comments? If not those in favor of the motion signify 8 by raising your right hands. It's four zero, unanimous. 9 It's not quite 9:25, we'll have to go on to 10 1.9. By the way -- 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's a timed item. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Yeah, but Roy Walston 13 requested that we pass that item, so we'll not consider 14 it today. 15 Going to 1.10 consider, discuss and take 16 appropriate action regarding the hazard mitigation 17 action plan and flood warning system. Commissioner 18 Moser and Dub Thomas. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Dub Thomas is not here 20 so I'm going to pinch hit for him. There's no proposed 21 action on this, it's just to brief the Court on what 22 we've been doing on some hazard mitigation and flood 23 warning system, and I need to say that the emergency 24 management plan that was developed by the City and the 25 County with Dub Thomas and Tony Leonard at that time has 23 1 served the public extremely well, it's working well. 2 The City and the County are working extremely well 3 together as the Emergency Management coordinators, so 4 that is the foundation. There's a couple of things that 5 have come about. 6 Number 1 is the hazard mitigation plan that 7 we have for the entire County has to be updated. And 8 it's a document about this thick. Okay. And we had a 9 meeting last week with UGRA and the County and the City 10 was there, the Sheriff was there, and Emergency 11 Management Coordinators were there, and we had 12 Grantworks come in and tell us about the things that 13 were available to produce this hazard mitigation plan 14 which we have to, and I've given everybody a timeline 15 that's in here. Its deadline for application for this 16 grant is in July, so we gotta move quickly on that. And 17 you know, the cost to do this is like 80 thousand 18 dollars that can be covered by the grant. There has to 19 be -- it's a 75, 25 thing, so there's some in kind 20 portions that go with that. The subset of that is the 21 flood warning system we've been talking about. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let's talk about -- 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, I was going to 24 put the two things together. But go ahead. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, the hazard 24 1 mitigation planning or the hazard mitigation plan, we're 2 required to update that. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So we don't have an 5 option, and this is a way to help fund that cost. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That is exactly 7 correct. Correct. And Dub Thomas got a little -- and 8 the Sheriff can comment on this, got a little bit antsy 9 okay, thinking he was going to have to prepare this 10 plan, and it's -- it's a huge -- it's a huge task, and 11 we will have to go out for bids to do this. But you 12 know, hopefully we're not going to cost the taxpayers 13 very much to get this done. If we can look at in kind 14 types of things that we can. 15 So I think the second part is, the flood 16 warning system. Dub and myself and a few other people 17 from UGRA went to Comal County and looked at the system 18 they have, which is sensors in the river at major 19 crossings where they monitor the water level, the rise 20 in the water level during a flood, it goes into a 21 central control system, it sets off alarms and also 22 notifies all the correct people that need to be 23 notified, and we've looked at that and we've looked at 24 what we and the County have, and our system is quite 25 simply pretty antiquated, it's pretty -- help me here, 25 1 Sheriff. It's marginal at the best, it's okay. It 2 serves some purposes, but it's not what we should have. 3 Okay. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: By whose standards? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I think the fact 6 that we are probably the highest risk area in the State 7 for flooding, and this is not to say we need to do it. 8 What we've done is we've had a couple of workshops 9 between the County and UGRA. And we looked at what do 10 we have, okay. Do we have is what's -- is it okay. 11 We're not saying we need to change anything, but if we 12 need to, what can we do to enhance it. What does it 13 cost and what's the procedure by with which to do that. 14 So we're not here to say anything that, you know, that 15 we need to do anything, but the indications are that we 16 could improve it. What does it cost, what are the 17 options for doing that to be determined. 18 So we got an unsolicited proposal from John 19 Hewitt, the floodplain administrator, saying what he 20 would do from an engineer, survey the whole thing, look 21 at the crossings, determine what could be done, 22 prioritize the enhanced systems that we would install, 23 and so that's the procedure, just a typical engineering 24 project is what it amounts to. 25 What I would suggest is that we have a 26 1 workshop with the County and UGRA, since we both have 2 full responsibility for the entire County for this type 3 of system, to look at what we have, what we can do to 4 improve it and have some of the -- perhaps even have 5 Comal County come in here and tell us what they did. 6 I think, Judge, you said what -- do we need 7 anything. Well, you know, we've had a lot of damage, 8 we've had deaths associated with it. We also have more 9 summer camps than anybody else along the Guadalupe 10 River. So we got a potential there. We've got, you 11 know, we can probably cost benefit analysis would save a 12 few lives is probably worth the money. To be 13 determined, I'm not advocating that. 14 So I think we can come back within the next 15 month or so with a workshop, and look and put this whole 16 thing on the table, and have some of the experts come in 17 and tell us what they've done. The thing that happened 18 in Blanco County, what happened there was people -- 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Hayes. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hayes County, yes. 21 Blanco River, Hayes County. People died because they 22 didn't -- they were not residents there. They didn't 23 know about the flooding. The system that Comal County 24 has installed is they have sirens that go off, okay, 25 automatically and can also be activated by Emergency 27 1 Management Coordinator or whomever, to let people 2 audibly know that there's an issue. Like a, you know, 3 air raid siren. But they're potent, okay. They cover 4 the entire range in Comal County, because it's like a 5 three mile diameter that these -- that these sirens work 6 and the automatic sensors work. So they've got a system 7 that notifies audibly and also electronically to the 8 designated officials. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have a couple things. 10 I was at the meeting that was held last week as was the 11 Sheriff, and I think one of the things that I came out 12 of the meeting was it's unclear what we have right now. 13 TxDot has a system for some of the State roads. GBRA 14 installed the other system that registers water in cubic 15 feet per second. And then there's kind of a from 16 experience a chart that shows what that equates to in 17 water level, as I understand it. So there's two 18 systems. And the GBRA system is managed by the 19 Kerrville police department -- I mean the fire 20 department, the fire department. So there's those two 21 systems, and they don't -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Don't play together. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They don't play together 24 at all. And TxDOT system is to -- because they know 25 when to go out and put road barriers out. GBRA system 28 1 is to get river flow. I mean it's really not a -- it's 2 a flood, but it's really a river flow that's used as 3 much as anything. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's hard to calculate 5 flow rate versus height. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean it's certainly 7 worthwhile to look at what they have. The other thing 8 and I brought up, and our county's very different than 9 Hayes County. We're at the Headwaters of the river, of 10 maybe more than one river, mainly the Guadalupe River. 11 You know, we've got -- risk in Kerr County is a lot 12 difference. It's the three fourths of the Guadalupe 13 River, South Fork, North Fork and Johnson Creek. Plus 14 you have Turtle Creek, you have Verde Creek, and you 15 have Cypress Creek that are all major creeks. And 16 trying to figure out how to -- and you can have a major 17 flood on any one of those water sheds and not impact the 18 others. So to me it's worthwhile to look at what we may 19 need. There are a lot of grants out there that can pay 20 for a lot of it. I'm not sure we need anything. I mean 21 it's kind of -- I think it's worth looking at, and 22 that's where I think Commissioner Moser is. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's all it is. 24 Let's look at what we have, okay. I think it's our 25 responsibility to do that. It's not to say that we need 29 1 to do anything. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I tend to agree, we 3 should take stock in what we have in our inventory for 4 the lack of a better word, because gone are the days 5 that you start a phone call up river that we've got this 6 many inches of rain. One big reason of that is there's 7 so many absentee owners, some are visitors. I know the 8 Sheriff and I experienced that with some of the fires 9 last year even with code red, you couldn't notify 10 everybody, because they're not signed up, they're not -- 11 you don't even know if they're home or not. But we need 12 to definitely take stock in what we have, look at it as 13 is Commissioner Letz said, TxDOT has some systems 14 available about high water. I believe Mr. Hastings, the 15 new bridge at Hunt has one. I know Goat Creek right 16 there at the KOA has one that notifies TxDOT via text 17 messages how they're set up of when there's water over 18 the roads. But I agree, we need to get a workshop set 19 up, let's see what all we have. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: What we might want and 22 what we can afford, and I'm not trying to put a dollar 23 on a life or a flood, but the fact of the matter floods 24 do happen, and we need to be prepared for them. We've 25 dodged a few in the past few years in my end of the 30 1 County, but it can happen tomorrow with a good rain. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, two things to 3 point out, too is number one UGRA and the County have 4 been working really closely together and Commissioner 5 Letz was there and Sheriff was there and Emergency 6 Management Coordinators were there. They've been very 7 positive on looking at the thing; not to commit. 8 The other thing is as Commissioner Letz just 9 mentioned, all these creeks and all, the last flood of 10 significance happened in Comfort. It didn't occur in 11 Hunt or anything. Because this is where Verde Creek 12 came into the Guadalupe River, all the high -- all the 13 large amount of rains were over in Elm Pass. And so 14 that filtered right down into Verde Creek and then the 15 Guadalupe River and Comfort got hit. So it's those 16 types of things that we need. So it's -- anyway, I 17 think there's real potential for some benefits here. I 18 don't know if the benefits are worth the cost it'll be, 19 but we'll look at it and see. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think, you know, 21 you will, but let's make sure that the City of Kerrville 22 will be involved as well. Because they're very much -- 23 I mean the City's probably at a greater risk than the 24 County, or as great a risk as the County because of the 25 number of people that live along the various creeks in 31 1 the City limits. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: True. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And they were at the 4 meeting last week. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, Sheriff. 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Real quick. The hazard 7 mitigation plan, first, that part of it, why it comes up 8 now. The one before was done with our input, my chief 9 deputies input and everything. But it was actually done 10 by AACOG for a large number of counties. AACOG doesn't 11 do that anymore, so now each one that has the emergency 12 management plan has to develop it, and it is a very 13 intense thing. In that development, and why it's so 14 important is that -- as Jonathan said, started to, the 15 City of Kerrville definitely need to be involved in it, 16 the school districts need to be involved in it, the fire 17 districts that have a taxing ability need to be 18 involved, because if they're involved in it and 19 mentioned in the hazard mitigation plan, it opens them 20 up for some of the grants through FEMA and through that 21 for, you know -- and what Grantworks was telling us, say 22 you got a school that built a brand new gymnasium that 23 was paid for with the grants, but because it also serves 24 as an evacuation center during a bad flood they can 25 build it, and use it for their gymnasium the rest of the 32 1 time, and it helps everybody. So that's the key to it. 2 The flood plan, the warning system, yes, we 3 need to see exactly what's out there. I know the last 4 time I had checked there were some of the -- some of the 5 sensors from the UGRA or GBRA, one years ago, some of 6 them don't work, some of them were gone, some of them 7 were never updated, the levels have changed, the dirt's 8 changed, you know, it's either come up, there's not as 9 much clearance under that bridge. Everything -- that 10 thing's been in existence for -- it's gotta be at least 11 ten years that I can think of. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: More than that. 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yeah, probably more 14 than that. TxDOT'S or new ones that they put in with 15 some of the new bridges and that. But again, it needs 16 to be centrally located and everybody needs to have 17 access to it to see what is truly happening. The 18 biggest issue we have in this County is notification of 19 the public. That is the -- you know we have a very 20 large portion or normally the time of year, summer, 21 spring summer that we have -- late fall that we have our 22 bad floods, is camp season, is things like that where 23 you have a very large number of tourists, you know. 24 Just about half the County is doubled in size from those 25 people. Plus exotic gaming. And those people aren't 33 1 signed up for code red. That has to go for our 2 residents, people that own land here. So they don't get 3 the cold red notification. I mean, you know, they don't 4 get any other notification. We don't have a TV station 5 or something like that broadcasts. And it -- we got a 6 couple radio stations that we notify. But the sirens 7 can be definitely beneficial at that time. Sirens, they 8 talk about flashing lights towards the crossings, you 9 know, even arms that close down. 10 So I think it all has to be looked at, but 11 it is a very major undertaking, either for the engineer 12 on the warning system, or for Dub and the County on the 13 hazard mitigation plan that has to be done. So any of 14 the grants and stuff we can get done, because there's no 15 way Dub or my office can come up with a document again 16 like that that would cover that. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Public education is an 18 important part of it, too. And it was pointed out to 19 me, my wife and I were visiting somebody in Richardson, 20 a suburb of Dallas, back when they had all the tornadoes 21 up there. And you can hear the air raid sirens. We 22 could hear them inside the house. And the people we 23 were visiting with there in Richardson and I said what 24 is that, you know, what does that mean. They're not 25 close to a river or anything like that. They said I 34 1 don't know. And we just sat around fat, dumb and happy. 2 So I think public education is a part of it, you know. 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Public education is a 4 major part of it and this can help do that. These 5 grants can and the funding can. Because I know Judge 6 Pollard probably would, Buster probably does, but I 7 doubt -- Bob may since you grew up here. I doubt if 8 there's very many people in this County anymore that 9 remember as I do, and several of us in here may, 10 watching logs come up on top of the big bridge here at 11 Sidney Baker during the flood in '78. '77, '78. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Absolutely. 13 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: People don't realize 14 what this river can do and how you quickly it can do it. 15 That was a big factor in the Hermann Sons disaster that 16 we worked years ago that I spent all day in a 17 helicopter. So we need to get it out. It's not like 18 the Mississippi or a lot of the other rivers that just 19 constantly come up slowly. You know this river in ten 20 minutes can be up 20 or 30 feet. 21 JUDGE POLLARD: Maybe people don't remember 22 but in what, '32 or '34 flood where the River Hills 23 shopping Center -- 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I don't remember that 25 one. You might. 35 1 JUDGE POLLARD: I wasn't here either. But 2 the River Hills Shopping Center had about ten feet of 3 water, that area right there, had about ten feet of 4 water in it. So that whole shopping center would have 5 been under water then. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well at that time the 7 Sheriff was missing. The bridge in Center Point across 8 on highway 480, which is I don't know -- 9 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I've seen that. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- 35 or 40 feet above 11 the river. Water went over the bridge. 12 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Oh, I've seen that 13 bridge go under water three or four times just since 14 I've been with the Sheriff's office, okay. 15 COMMISSIONER REEVES: In '78 we lost the 16 bridge on Junction Highway at Goat Creek. 17 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Even my dad was the one 18 they told to look in the rearview mirror, because right 19 when he crossed it the bridge collapsed. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We need the education. 21 Highway 27, large parts of it were six foot under water. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We talk about Verde 23 Creek and the Guadalupe, and a lot of people don't 24 realize, that comes together in Center Point Estates, in 25 that housing edition. Which back during '78 is where we 36 1 lost about 8 people out of that housing edition if I 2 remember. Okay. So with public knowledge -- 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So anyway, I think we 4 got a foundation with the plan. We got people in place. 5 Now we just need to look at make a survey of what we 6 have and what we might do. So we'll do that. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Let me ask a 8 question. So with your workshop you will -- you'll 9 present to tell us what kind of warning systems we have. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Uh-huh. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And what's available 12 out there? 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And then we'll do the 15 same thing with the notification part of it. Whether 16 it's sirens, or you know that kind of thing. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That'll be part of it. 18 So as a matter of fact, I didn't want to bring it up 19 here, but UGRA said that they're interested in putting 20 together a video okay and show people, and that's 21 another way to inform people -- 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Education. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- but you have so many 24 people that come in here in the summer, they're not 25 going to get -- they're not going to get code red. 37 1 Probably, you know, my gut is -- feels sirens are going 2 to be the things that we can have. Now, whether or 3 not -- well and that's part of the education thing. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: The other question is 5 the city's coordinator retired, and have they filled it, 6 or are they -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The answer is yes. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It has been filled -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It has been filled. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: So he's not having to 12 take up any kind of -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. And he 14 participated in the meeting last week. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: What's his name? 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Roger -- 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Lampman. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, right. He was at 19 the meeting last week. 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The only other thing I 21 would say that we need to get with Dub and Commissioner 22 Moser. The first part of this agenda item has the 23 mitigation thing and we are going to have to get the 24 authority to apply for that, or to fill out that 25 application. But also to get Grantworks involved and to 38 1 help us with that plan, because that's what they do, 2 okay, and to get all that done. Because I don't know 3 what the step is -- 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think we'll come 5 back to next Commissioners' Court and put that on the 6 agenda to proceed with authority to get the support for 7 preparing the application. 8 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: May I ask where is 9 our coordinator today? 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: He is in one of the 11 FEMA classes we're holding out at our facility, training 12 out there, that is teaching all this kind of stuff and 13 to counties around us, and even our own. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let's see, the city's -- 15 Mr. Beaver's replacement is Roger Lampman, he's a 16 battalion chief, he spent 32 years with the Kerrville 17 Fire Department, and he said he's going to be here three 18 more years. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: Tony retired, and we put on 20 a little barbecue for him Friday evening, after 30 years 21 with the fire department. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But Roger said he'll be 23 here for three more years. He said his plan is to be 24 here until 35. We'll see. But I think he's a good 25 choice in my mind. 39 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's it, thank you. 2 JUDGE POLLARD: I guess we worked that one 3 over pretty good. Anything further on it? Any motions 4 appropriate? 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, no, that was just 6 for information. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Let's go back to item 1.7 8 consider, discuss and take appropriate action for the 9 Court's final approval regarding the revision of plat 10 for lots 31 and 32 of The Reserve at Falling Water 11 Subdivision, plat record volume 7, pages 215-217, 12 Precinct 3, Mr. Hastings. 13 MR. HASTINGS: Larry and Lucy Driggers own 14 lots 31 and lot 32. They're both 6.2 acres each The 15 Reserve at Falling Water, and they would like to combine 16 them into one lot 31R, 12.4 acres. Commissioner Letz 17 has approved the alternate plat process. The public 18 hearing was held April 25th, 2016. 19 At this time, we ask the Court for their 20 final approval regarding the revision of plat for lots 21 31 and 32 of the Reserve at Falling Water Subdivision, 22 plat record volume 7, pages 215 through 217, Precinct 3. 23 They want to place a home in the middle of those two 24 lots on the lot line is why they're asking for these 25 lots to be combined. 40 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Make a motion to approve 2 the agenda request. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 4 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner 5 Precinct 3 and seconded by Commissioner Precinct 2, and 6 in regard to item 1.7 on the agenda, and that is to 7 approve the revision of the plat for lots 31 and 32 of 8 The Reserve at Falling Water Subdivision, plat records 9 7, pages 215-217 in Precinct 3. Is there any further 10 comment or discussion or questions? There being none, 11 those in favor of the motion signify by raising their 12 right hands. It's four zero, unanimous. 13 Let's go to item 1.11 consider, discuss and 14 take appropriate action on mass gathering permit for the 15 Kerrville music festival. If you'll -- well, I was 16 relying on the County fire marshal being here but he's 17 tied up as we just heard. So to -- he's required to 18 make an investigation out there under the statute here, 19 and I was anticipating that he would be here. Do you 20 know anything about that, Sheriff? 21 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: On the -- 22 JUDGE POLLARD: Mass gathering permit. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't think we have a 24 County fire marshal. 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But normally they -- 41 1 each year they show up from out there and explain 2 everything to the Court. But we do have a copy, and 3 then that's where Buster gets to play. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: God and I forgot to 5 bring my hat in here. Can we put this off so I can 6 bring my hat in later? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He's the designated 8 fire marshal when needed. 9 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But I thought there was 10 another date you had set, Judge, for when it's going to 11 be approved, don't you. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: No. As a matter of fact I 13 think there's a -- 14 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I think there is, isn't 15 there, Jody? 16 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Yes. The actual hearing 17 will be, I believe, May 12th. But this is mainly set in 18 the past because we don't have a fire marshal. 19 Commissioner Baldwin has agreed to do those duties as a 20 fire marshal and give a report, and that's mainly 21 what -- 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I make a motion that we 23 appoint Commissioner Baldwin to serve as the fire 24 marshal as it relates to the mass gathering permit for 25 the Kerrville Music Festival. 42 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, guys. I 2 can't tell ya, this is touching. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I'll second that 4 motion. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I want to second it. 6 I've got my hat in there, I wanted to wear it this time, 7 because Dr. Rector's here taking pictures all the time, 8 and I've got this cool fire marshal hat. Jody's going 9 to go get it. 10 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Oh jeez. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, it's worth the 12 wait, believe me. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that would be for 14 temporary fire marshal. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Only to this event. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: All right, good. 17 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: And it's rock and 18 roll. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And they have a -- 20 JUDGE POLLARD: Can we appoint one with the 21 wording of that particular -- 22 MRS. GRINSTEAD: There you go. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank you, Jody. 24 What do you think? 25 DR. RECTOR: Perfect. 43 1 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: It is perfect. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I wouldn't go so far as 3 to say perfect. 4 AUDIENCE: We'll see it on facebook. 5 JUDGE POLLARD: It'll be on the front page, 6 I can see it. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, I think we can 8 take action on this. I mean it's -- 9 MRS. STEBBINS: I think so, too. 10 JUDGE POLLARD: You think we can? 11 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes, Sir. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved 13 I think it was Commissioner Precinct 3 and seconded by 14 Commissioner -- seconded by Commissioner Precinct 1. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Yes, Sir, that's 16 correct. Serious business. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Commissioner Precinct 1 18 shall be appointed as the temporary fire marshal for 19 purposes of making the investigation required under this 20 item 1.11. And that is for the mass gathering permit 21 for Kerrville music festival. Is there any further 22 discussion? 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Rusty, can I borrow 24 one of your police cars? 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 44 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think in light of him 2 doing it in the past, we could just pass this and if the 3 fire marshal so chooses, recommend that we grant a 4 permit. 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: There's a lot more to 6 it. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. I tried. 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: There's a lot of 9 different ones that have to come in, and I have a part 10 of it, and make sure they have security. There's 11 there's a lot different keys to it. 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: But I'm going to 13 needed an emergency car like the Sheriff's car -- 14 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: -- to drive around in 16 for a while. 17 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Forget my other motion. 19 JUDGE POLLARD: That one dies for the lack 20 of a second. Any other further comments or questions on 21 it? If not, then those in favor signify by raising your 22 right hand. It's four zero, unanimous. We're getting 23 close. I don't think we need a break, do we? 24 Item 1.12 consider, discuss and take 25 appropriate action to request unclaimed capital credits 45 1 received from Electric Cooperative pursuant to section 2 74.602 of the Texas Property Code, from the Texas 3 Comptroller of Public Accounts, and authorize County 4 Judge to sign the request form. Brenda Doss. 5 MRS. DOSS: Yes. We are asking for 6 authorization for Judge Pollard to sign the request that 7 we have to make to the State comptroller in order to get 8 a Kerr County share of the capital credits. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved by Commissioner 12 Precinct 1 and seconded by -- was it you? It was 13 Commissioner 4. That we authorize the County Judge to 14 sign a request form to claim unclaimed -- what is it 15 unclaimed capital credits from the electric cooperative 16 pursuant to section 74.602 of the Texas Property Code 17 from the Texas Comptroller of public accounts, and 18 authorize the County Judge to sign same. Any further 19 discussion, comments on it? There being none, those in 20 favor of the motion signify by raising your right hand. 21 It's four zero, unanimous. 22 Item 1.13 consider, discuss and take 23 appropriate action to determine whether to allow the 24 retail fireworks permit holders to sell fireworks to the 25 public in celebration of Memorial Day beginning May 25, 46 1 2016 and ending at midnight on May 30, 2016, pursuant to 2 the Texas Occupations Code, section 2154.202.(h). You 3 can see in the package that the -- if we take no action 4 as I understand it then they're not permitted to do it. 5 If we do take action to permit it and it has to be done 6 by before a certain date, I think is in there. Anybody 7 have any comments or questions on whether or not we'll 8 allow fireworks then? 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have no desire to 10 pass this thing. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Anybody else? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have a question for 13 the Sheriff, because I know you watch or know stands are 14 opening. There's a lot more dates now when they can 15 sell fireworks. Is there any interest in the vendors of 16 selling fireworks? 17 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I haven't seen any. 18 And I do see some of the vendors every week. But I have 19 not -- 20 JUDGE POLLARD: I don't see any of them here 21 hollering about it. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But I haven't talked to 23 them about it. 24 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I haven't noticed -- 25 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I haven't noticed any 47 1 of the stands open or anything. 2 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- any of them open or 3 anything. The legislative last session passed adding 4 these other dates, Texas Independence, San Jacinto. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, Cinco de Mayo. 6 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Well, Cinco de Mayo 7 had been in there for a few years. Memorial Day is 8 another one. And this just simply, the way I understand 9 it, gives them if they want to open and sell they have 10 the opportunity to, subject to anything else, the 11 drought restrictions and things like that. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Last call, is 13 there a motion? If not, that item 1.13 there's no 14 action on item 1.13. 15 We'll pass on to item 1.14 consider, discuss 16 and take appropriate action on request from Community 17 Council of South Central Texas, Inc. to approve a 18 Resolution declaring the month of May, 2016 as Community 19 Action Month. I see in the agenda package a so called 20 form of the Resolution. Anybody have any questions or 21 comments? 22 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have a question 23 what is community action? What's the definition of 24 that? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, we can read a 48 1 therefore. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It came from the heart 3 of President Johnson. It's what it says. Emerged from 4 the heart of president Lyndon B. Johnson. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That mentioned his 6 heart, doesn't it. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: To some people. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: In Kerr County the 9 recognition of hard work dedication of Kerr County 10 Action Agency. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know what that 12 is. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Will they please stand 14 up. Not hearing anybody, they must -- 15 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I served on this 16 board 150 years ago, and I didn't know they were still 17 alive to be honest with you. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Is there a motion? 19 If not, we'll pass on to the next item on the agenda. 20 Consider, discuss and take appropriate action regarding 21 Memorial Day and 4th of July events. Oh, 10:15. Well, 22 all right, let's pay the bills. 23 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I move that we pay 24 the bills. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 49 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Been moved and seconded that 2 we pay the bills. 3 Item 4.2 budget amendments. 4 MRS. DOSS: Yes, we have four budget 5 amendments. They're interdepartmental transfers. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move to approve the 7 budget amendments. 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: We didn't vote on it. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We didn't vote on the 10 bills, did we? I thought boy that went real fast. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: All right, those in favor of 12 paying the bills. Four zero. 13 All right, going to item 4.2. Budget 14 amendments. Is there a motion on that? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Second. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Moved by Commissioner 3 and 18 seconded by Commissioner 4 to approve the budget 19 amendments. Any further discussion? If not, those in 20 favor signify by raising your right hands. Four zero, 21 unanimous. 22 Late bills. 23 MRS. DOSS: Yes, we have late bills. Court 24 appointed attorneys from the County Clerk's office. 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Move to pay the late 50 1 bills. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Moved by Commissioner 4, 4 seconded by Commissioner 3 to pay the late bills. Any 5 further discussion, questions or comments? There being 6 none, those in favor signify by raising your right hand. 7 It's four zero, unanimous. 8 4.4 approve and accept monthly reports. 9 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Yes, Sir. We have 11 10 of them. Kerr County clerk's monthly report April, 11 2016. Constable Precinct 2 monthly report for April, 12 2016. Kerr District Clerk's monthly reports, April 13 2016. J.P. 1 monthly report, April 2016. J.P. 2 14 monthly reports for April, 2016. Constable Precinct 4 15 monthly report for April, 2016. Environmental health 16 monthly activity report, animal services monthly 17 report -- I'm assuming these are for April, 2016, but 18 it's not designated. J.P. 3 monthly report, April, 19 2016. Constable Precinct 1 monthly report for May, 20 2016. Kerr County payroll approval month ending April, 21 2016. 22 Move to approve as presented, and signed if 23 needed. 24 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Second. 25 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. It's been moved 51 1 by Commissioner Precinct 4, seconded by Commissioner 2 Precinct 1 for approval of the reports received as 3 dictated into the record. Any further discussion or 4 questions or comments? There being none those in favor 5 signify by raising your right hand. It's four zero, 6 unanimous. 7 The next item would be auditor reports. 8 MRS. DOSS: Oh, none. Sorry. 9 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Item 5.1 reports from 10 Commissioners and liaison committee assignments. 11 Anybody? 12 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: No, Sir. Thank you. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Huh-uh. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Go ahead. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm going make a 16 comment. There's been a lot of minor decisions, I'd 17 say, relating to all of the wastewater project, and 18 Brenda and I have been -- such as what -- what's the 19 name of it, what bank are we go going to use for -- 20 MRS. DOSS: For the paying agent and for the 21 escrow agreement. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Picking the bank and 23 paying agent and some of the stuff. I mean Brenda and I 24 are talking, and talking with our financial advisors, 25 and making those kind of which ones to use. Pretty much 52 1 we just follow the recommendation of our financial 2 advisor, because I recommended we use a different one 3 and they came back and told me no. But anyway I just 4 wanted to let the Court know that those are minor things 5 that Brenda and I are kind of working with those people 6 to get all those documents ready for our next 7 Commissioners' Court meeting. And the paying agent. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: What bank? 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's a bank of Texas in 10 Austin that handles a lot of water development board 11 transactions, and we actually used them in 2012. 12 They're very familiar with -- 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Well, is there any existing 14 account that the County has with them? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. As I understand it 16 we don't open an account there, our accounts stay with 17 Security State. It just kind of flows through them. 18 MRS. DOSS: Right. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And some of the Water 20 Development Board. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. The other thing 22 that we might want to mention on that subject, the 23 wastewater system in East Kerr County, we got a public 24 meeting on May the 10th to review the entire project 25 with the citizens. And also, the major purpose is the 53 1 acquisition of right of ways. So we'll have all of the 2 right documentation and all people can donate their 3 property for the easement. Some of them we'll have to 4 purchase. So Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam have been doing 5 a good job with that. So time critical and fill in all 6 the squares at the proper time to get it done is pretty 7 tight. So anyway Commissioner Letz and I will be there 8 for that. 9 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: That's tomorrow. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It is tomorrow at 11 7 p.m. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Any anything else? 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Jody, could you send 14 that information to me and skip over it just a second. 15 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Uh-huh. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: All of it. One other 17 thing, no action, but just the Castlecomb's central 18 sewer system -- central septic system. The TCEQ is 19 involved in that, the ball's in their court. They've 20 been discussing and having conversations and getting 21 some action from the people who maintain that. It's 22 been marginally maintained. Ray Garcia and his folks 23 are out there with UGRA every week monitoring the water 24 and the little tributary close by before it flows into 25 Silver Creek and Guadalupe River, so people at -- the 54 1 residents out there, 28 homes, are totally disappointed 2 in what's being done and that system not being fixed, 3 and homes have been put on the market and they can't 4 sell, property values are decreasing. So it's a real 5 mess. Pardon the pun. 6 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Was that a pun? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, that was a pun. 8 So that's all. It's too bad we can't do something about 9 that. 10 MRS. GRINSTEAD: It's here. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Now I can go if you 12 don't mind, Judge. 13 JUDGE POLLARD: Sure, go ahead. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: You know our HR 15 Department does a very good job in notifying everybody 16 of birthdays during a particular month, and we all get 17 notified, and we sign the cards. Well, I believe on the 18 11th there's a birthday, and since it would be his last 19 birthday in Court, we would like to wish you a very 20 happy birthday on Wednesday, Commissioner 1. 21 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Good Lord. 22 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And we have a little 23 something to celebrate but we couldn't get enough 24 candles on it without setting it on fire. 25 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Okay. Okay. You 55 1 were doing fine. Where's the beer? 2 MRS. GRINSTEAD: No beer, sorry. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So happy birthday. 4 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank y'all so much. 5 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Jody has some knives 6 and forks and plates after executive session. 7 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Who made this? 8 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I worked all weekend 9 on it. 10 MRS. STEBBINS: Happy birthday. 11 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank y'all so much. 12 (Off the record.) 13 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Thank y'all so much. 14 I'm sure that you were involved in all this and I 15 appreciate it. 16 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay, anything else? Let's 17 go to reports from elected officials and department 18 heads. Anything? 19 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Just an update on the 20 jail expansion. There are some changes. It looks like 21 it's probably not going to be until towards the end of 22 July, first part of August before we actually break 23 ground. We had a meeting last week over at Huser 24 Construction talking about a lot of things, how we're 25 going to move radio antennas, how that would work 56 1 because you got to keep the separation. That led into 2 some other discussions which very possibly could save 3 the County most likely between one and two million 4 dollars, is that we are not -- probably not going to put 5 on a whole new metal roof all the way across. They are 6 going to put on a new roof, but it'll be a new flat roof 7 gravel, kind of like it is. It will make it a lot 8 easier for them, and save the County a lot of dollars on 9 construction so they're looking at that. 10 But applying for the permit from the City of 11 Kerrville, I will hand this bill over to the auditor's 12 office, and I'll be honest I think this is ridiculous. 13 Just a plan check fee, just to check out the plans, the 14 City of Kerrville is going to charge Kerr County 15 $27,512.50. The building permit fee will be another 16 $55,025.00, being that the total fee to add on to the 17 County Jail that the City of Kerrville uses and we all 18 use, okay, will be $82,537.50. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Wow. 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: That's what I say. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Double wow. 22 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Here is the bill that 23 the auditor can have. But I just -- I don't know if 24 something can be done. I mean we all use that facility. 25 It's for public, you know, help. 57 1 JUDGE POLLARD: The City uses it. 2 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The City uses it, too. 3 You know we charge them one day only for their inmates 4 coming in, and the County by law takes care of the rest. 5 But there's a lot of things, you know, court's are out 6 there that everybody uses. Training facility, we let 7 everybody use. But I just think that eighty-two 8 thousand dollars is a little ridiculous. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Jody, can you put that 10 on our next agenda to officially ask the City to waive 11 those fees. 12 JUDGE POLLARD: Or alternatively we start 13 charging them more than one day. 14 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Is there any 15 opportunity to have fees waived? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're not paying fees 17 to themselves for their -- 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I was told by the 19 architect that they have had places where they built 20 jails, and the city's have waived the fees. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: So there could be an 22 opportunity. 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: But it's whether or not 24 they want to, I guess. I don't know, okay. I just -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what do they charge 58 1 just a percentage of the cost of construction? 2 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Be interesting what 4 they will charge for the new sportsplex to themselves. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There is a precedent 6 that I know that the City in the past has waived for 7 habitat for humanity, they've waived those fees in the 8 past. Because years ago the booster club asked the fees 9 be waived and they declined, and we put in the new 10 concession stand at Antler Stadium, and then shortly 11 after that they waived fees for Habitat for Humanity. 12 So there has been precedent in the past. Whether or not 13 they'll do it, I don't know. They've also waived the 14 fee, hookup fees to the County for sewer hookup and 15 various things. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I certainly think we 17 can look and inquire if there's an ability perhaps. 18 Sheriff, if you'd like me to help you and we'll see what 19 we can do, I'll be glad to make calls as well as -- 20 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, you know, I just 21 got the bill and turned it over to the auditor. You 22 know I would hope the City and the County being the two 23 Courts, or you know Judge and Mayor, could get together 24 and see if maybe there's something that could be done in 25 reducing those costs. 59 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Officially ask. I'm not 2 being ugly, I'm just asking. 3 COMMISSIONER REEVES: No, I think that's 4 what we need to do. 5 COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: Are you sure that we 6 want to wait to address that until our next meeting, or 7 do we need to have a special meeting? 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: This is just a report 9 from elected officials, so I don't know that you can 10 take any official action. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Why can't we just send 12 a letter? 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Again, I don't think he 14 can, I don't think the Judge has the authority to 15 request that without us asking. We can do a special 16 meeting, but I think we can probably wait, I mean we're 17 not going to pay it that quick are we? 18 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I just got this -- 19 actually it came in after I left the office Friday, so I 20 just saw it this morning. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean we're not going 22 to start -- I don't know what their timeframe is, but 23 we're not going to start construction for -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: July or August. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, two months. 60 1 JUDGE POLLARD: Is any of this covered by 2 the grants? 3 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Well, I think the bond 4 issue will take care of this, but -- 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But -- 6 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: I think the bond issue 7 eventually gets paid by all the taxpayers of the City 8 and County. And if we can save some on that bond issue 9 the better off we all are. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 11 JUDGE POLLARD: Or maybe we petition to be 12 annexed, the jail. All right. 13 Reports from any other Department heads or 14 whatever. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: There is an item I'll 16 bring up in executive session. 17 JUDGE POLLARD: Okay. Reports from boards, 18 commissions and committees. City, County joint projects 19 or operations reports. Other. Anybody else? We're 20 still not at 10:15. All right I guess we go into -- 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Maybe -- I see Jake 22 Williamson here. Jake, you can give us a report on how 23 things are going at the AG barn. Since you're here. 24 JUDGE POLLARD: That will delay it until 25 10:15. 61 1 MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, just as you know, a 2 quick brief update, you know, moving forward with 3 getting with new clients. People have used the facility 4 before. Negotiating contracts for future events. 5 Moving forward with repairs and maintenance on things we 6 found. And we're just working towards the future. I 7 got with a group -- or will be getting with a few groups 8 this week to hammer out some contracts, that we'll talk 9 about later this afternoon, and should be good business 10 for the County. One of them being the quilt guild 11 that's typically been at Schreiner. They've had some 12 issues with that facility and things like that, and so 13 it's an easier place for them to come out to the 14 facility you guys have built, and they're excited. So 15 we're going to get some dates for May of next year put 16 down, as well as some other groups. I probably don't 17 want to say the names in case things don't happen, but 18 I'm going to get a group out of San Antonio that does 19 sporting events for a one night show coming up in 20 August. I have the hopes of that. So that should be 21 good. 22 Just use the facility, get some varied use, 23 as a multi purpose. We want to have, you know, as much 24 variety as we possibly can to get the entire community 25 involved. So you know it's progressing. It's a 62 1 process. But we're definitely making progress, and 2 getting out with the community, hearing from some roping 3 groups again, trying to maybe use the facility again as 4 well. So every -- every facet, including the park is 5 going to have some activity this summer, moving into the 6 fall and then into next year. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Jake, could you -- 8 perhaps you do, but do you have a year by year 9 visibility of what happened last year out at the 10 facilities, and what -- and what's going to happen this 11 year, so we can look at a growth and involvement, and 12 participation and revenue and -- 13 MR. WILLIAMSON: Uh-huh, absolutely. And 14 we're going through for the budgeting process for next 15 year. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'm not just talking 17 about the budget. Here's the performance, here's a 18 typical business, here's what we did last year and 19 here's what we're doing this year. 20 MR. WILLIAMSON: From last year the records 21 I have don't show the revenue associated with. But I 22 can get with Jody and pull that up. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I know you don't have 24 it, but Jody has it. 25 MR. WILLIAMSON: And we can go forward and 63 1 you know we have the spread sheets I have with expected 2 revenues of rentals and we can compare that and I can 3 definitely keep everybody informed. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think you can show, 5 you know, anticipate it, which is a potential and that 6 which is real, and then which is actual. So at the end 7 of the year we'll have actual year over year actuals. 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: Absolutely, yeah. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, good. Super. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They keep track of a 11 lot. I mean really Jake's our mediator pretty much. 12 But we have what was -- you know what we turned over to 13 the books and what they're adding. And I don't know if 14 you've seen it yet, Commissioner, but they're 15 circulating now, Jake fills out a sheet on every event 16 that kind of gives a summary of it, which is pretty 17 handy and there's a packet that we're circulating around 18 to all the Commissioners now along with the budget 19 information. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good, good. Thank you. 21 COMMISSIONER REEVES: And Jake, you might 22 fill the Court in on the monthly event that will be 23 going on at River Star. I think it's a very great use 24 of the facilities. And you might let everybody know 25 about that. 64 1 MR. WILLIAMSON: Sure. It's going to be 2 called Kerrville Trader's Fest. The hope is -- of 3 course it's a new project. This local promoter has been 4 in the food service industry doing food trucks and 5 different markets, like Boerne Market Days, and so what 6 we're doing on this fourth weekend is we're opening up 7 the park for this traders fest, it's going to follow 8 hopefully the loop, and you know eventually become one 9 of the main stays that follows the Fredericksburg Market 10 Days, the Boerne Market Days, and then you know be 11 Kerrville Trader's Fest. They'll be live entertainment, 12 they have contact with local musicians. They'll have 13 plenty of pavilions, kid zone area, food trucks for 14 concessions, and then vendors. Hopefully, you know, 15 with almost 8 acres out there we can fit quite an 16 enormous amount. So we're just going to see how fast we 17 can get them up there or, you know, as long as the 18 community can stay involved, and we get the people from 19 San Antonio to come shop, you know, I think that would 20 really drive what kind of vendors we see out there and 21 quantity. 22 So it's, you know, it's headstrong, 23 promoter, very involved. Going to be very hands on with 24 it. Really wants to be successful. And they just ended 25 up on the park. They've been around town talking with 65 1 other places, looking at other facilities. And for what 2 they're looking at we're just the greatest fit. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So when is that going 4 to be, it's once a month? 5 MR. WILLIAMSON: It's going to be once a 6 month, it's every fourth weekend. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Every fourth weekend. 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: So it'll be starting that 9 last weekend in June, will be the first. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what -- do we have 11 a fee rate that we charge for that park on something 12 like that like we do with the other facilities? 13 COMMISSIONER REEVES: We have one we 14 approved -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: All right. I just 16 didn't remember. 17 COMMISSIONER REEVES: -- a year ago or 18 something. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That would be great. 20 That would be good visibility out there. 21 MR. WILLIAMSON: It's good visibility, it's 22 right on the highway, as well as, you know, the hopes of 23 that entire facility with the rentals and also seeing 24 the sales tax revenues, things like that coming in from 25 people using the facility and buying and purchasing 66 1 products. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good deal. 3 JUDGE POLLARD: Is River Star in the City or 4 out? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's out. They thought 6 it was in, but it's out. 7 JUDGE POLLARD: Hu? 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They thought it was in 9 when the arts and craft group was there, but it's not. 10 There's no record of it being annexed, so it's out. 11 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Thank you, Jake. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Which is -- I'll talk to 13 the County Attorney about that later. Never mind. Now 14 it's 10:15. 15 JUDGE POLLARD: Yes, it is. 16 COMMISSIONER REEVES: Good filler. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Jake. 18 JUDGE POLLARD: Thank you, Jake. 19 Item 1.15. Consider, discuss and take 20 appropriate action regarding Memorial Day and 4th of 21 July events, Maggie Baker. 22 MS. BAKER: Good morning. What our 23 committee's wanting to do is use the courthouse grounds 24 for memorial day this year again, and hopefully it's not 25 going to flood on us. 67 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hopefully it will. 2 MS. BAKER: Pardon. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We need the rain. 4 MS. BAKER: Well, we can have the rain 5 before and after. And this is just -- will last one 6 hour, and what we're wanting to do is have some 7 speakers. I've got some OEF and OIF speakers that are 8 scheduled, as well as we've got some military music. 9 We'll have the laying of the wreaths, and we also would 10 like for Judge Pollard to say a few words to our 11 veterans as well this year. 12 And we're going to be asking Tim, if he and 13 his guys can get the flat bed loaded up with chairs 14 again and the podium, and we'll bring them over here. 15 We'll load them up unload them and take them back over. 16 He's done that for us before, and I haven't asked him 17 yet. 18 So then on the 4th of July, we're not going 19 to have anything out here this year. Our committee 20 thought with the 4th fourth of July and the Memorial 21 Day, and the parade it was an awful lot for all of us to 22 do. So what we're doing is the Dietert Center is having 23 their annual car show out here, and they're still 24 wanting veterans to show up. So we're still going to 25 advertise to have the veterans show up. And there's 68 1 going to be military music, and events for the veterans. 2 And then we're still wanting Judge Pollard to say a few 3 words. I know you do the judging of the cars, and so 4 during that -- 5 JUDGE POLLARD: And knows nothing about 6 cars. 7 MS. BAKER: Whichever one looks the best, I 8 guess. I don't know. But then we're -- 9 JUDGE POLLARD: I did it. 10 MS. BAKER: We're also wanting you to go 11 ahead and say a few words to our veterans on July 4th as 12 well, if you could do that for us. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It looks good. I move 14 for approval of the request for the veterans' 15 ceremonies, and Memorial Day and the 4th of July. 16 MS. BAKER: One thing. Jody reminded me 17 twice now. The event's going to be on Saturday July 18 2nd; not July 4th. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I second the motion. 20 JUDGE POLLARD: All right. Moved by 21 Commissioner 3 and seconded by Commissioner 2 for 22 approval of item 1.15 on the agenda, and that is for 23 approval of the proposed use of courthouse lawn for 24 Memorial Day this year and the 4th of July this year as 25 described. Is any further discussion? 69 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I totally support your 2 idea to not do a big deal on 4th of July. I think 3 there's other events around, plus it can be so hot. 4 It's a hard time of year around here to plan something 5 out here on the square. So I think you've made a good 6 decision. 7 MS. BAKER: Thank you. 8 JUDGE POLLARD: Sure plenty hot at that 9 Memorial Day thing last year judging a bunch of cars. 10 Wow. Okay. All right, any further discussion or 11 comments, questions? There being none, those in favor 12 of the motion signify by raising your right hands. It's 13 four zero, unanimous. 14 Okay. I guess we go into closed session 15 now. At this time we will go into closed session 16 pursuant to sections 551.071, point 072, point 073, 17 point 074, point 078, point 0785, point 074, point 078, 18 point 551.076 and point 087. All of chapter 551 of the 19 Texas Government Code, and we are hereby closed. 20 (Executive Session was had.) 21 JUDGE POLLARD: We're back in open session 22 again. And I don't know of any business that we have or 23 any action that we need to take in open session. Does 24 anybody have anything? 25 COMMISSIONER REEVES: I have nothing. 70 1 JUDGE POLLARD: We're adjourned. 2 * * * * * * 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 71 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, the Official 4 Certified Shorthand Reporter in and for the Kerr County 5 Commissioners' Court, do hereby certify that the above 6 and foregoing pages contain and comprise a true and 7 correct transcription of the proceedings had in the 8 above-entitled Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 12th day of May, A.D. 2016. 10 11 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 12 No. 953 Expiration Date 12/31/2016 13 * * * * * * 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25