1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Special Session 5 Tuesday, February 18, 2020 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge HARLEY BELEW, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Precinct 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Precinct 3 25 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Visitor's Input. 3 4 *** Commissioner's Comments. 6 5 1.1 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 6 action regarding new road between Texas 6 Highway 16 and Highway 173 on southern boundary of proposed Vintage Heights 7 Subdivision, communications with TxDOT, and the November bond election. 8 1.2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 29 9 action on approving real estate appraiser for various properties. 10 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 31 11 action to appoint a member to the Kerrville Christmas Lighting Corporation Board. 12 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 35 13 action on authorizing Kerrville Pets Alive (KPA) trailer to be parked at Kerr County 14 Animal Services. 15 1.5 Discussion regarding Liaison 41 Responsibilities, Court Order #37929, 16 and the proposed schedule for quarterly reports. 17 2.1 Pay Bills. 44 18 2.2 Budget Amendments. 45 19 2.4 Court Orders. 46 20 *** Reporter's Certificate. 47 21 * * * * * * 22 23 24 25 3 1 JUDGE KELLY: It is Tuesday, February the 2 18th, 2020, and the Commissioners' Court of Kerr County 3 is now in session for a special Commissioners' Court 4 meeting. I want to remind everyone to turn off your 5 cell phone. If they go off, we have a policy that 6 they're to be confiscated and you just provide them to 7 me, and I'll give them back to you after the meeting. 8 Taking the onus off of the Sheriff. He just picks them 9 up and brings them to me. 10 That said, the next thing on the agenda, on 11 everyone of our agendas, we have public input. And this 12 is an opportunity for us to hear the public, allow them 13 to come speak to us about anything they have on their 14 mind that is not on the agenda. If it is on the agenda, 15 we ask that you wait and speak at the time the agenda 16 item is called. But if there's anything that anyone in 17 the public would like to address the Court about today, 18 this is your opportunity. Is there anyone who would 19 like to address the Court -- 20 MS. RICHARDS: I would. 21 JUDGE KELLY: -- on something that is not on 22 the agenda? Okay. 23 MS. RICHARDS: Do I need to -- 24 MRS. DOWDY: I'll take it. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And while she's doing this, 4 1 just to explain everybody the process, is that you have 2 a form that is filled out. It then has to be submitted 3 to the County Clerk, Miss Dowdy, then approves it and 4 hands it to me, and that's how you get called to the 5 podium. 6 MS. RICHARDS: So I need to go right here. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Just go to the podium. I'm 8 just explaining the process that we use, and we try to 9 do this at the beginning of the meeting; not at the end 10 of the meeting. 11 MS. RICHARDS: Okay. Got it. Is this a 12 requirement? (Pointing to microphone.) 13 JUDGE KELLY: No. As long as everybody can 14 hear you. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But you gotta tell 16 everybody who you are and where you're from. 17 JUDGE KELLY: For purposes of the record, 18 you are Claudia Richards, is that right? 19 MS. RICHARDS: Yes. 20 JUDGE KELLY: And you may speak. 21 MS. RICHARDS: Okay. So I am Claudia 22 Richards. I'm the Program Director for Precinct 2 23 Prosperity Program. And our goal is to legalize the 24 sale of all alcoholic beverages, including mixed 25 beverages in Precinct 2. 5 1 If you've been in the area for awhile, it's 2 been tried a few times so most people are familiar with 3 the process. Initially, an application is filled out 4 with ten signatures, and you have to be a registered 5 voter in Precinct 2. After that, it's filed with the 6 County Clerk, and the Secretary of State, and then we 7 are circulating a petition. This begins on April first 8 and May -- through May 31st. It has -- we sent out 9 direct mail postcards, looks like this. If you live in 10 Precinct 2, you should be receiving one. 11 On our website it lists all of the 12 affiliates, people who are in support of. The 13 affiliates are not monetary affiliates, it's just really 14 for exposure for both parties. But you can drop off 15 these postcards at any affiliate location as a pledge 16 that you would like to be contacted during the petition. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Very good. 18 JUDGE KELLY: For those that don't know, we 19 do have one dry precinct in Kerr County. In Texas we 20 used to have all dry precincts, but that's Precinct 2. 21 And what you're doing is trying to get this petition, 22 signatures to get on the ballot so we can have an 23 election to make Precinct 2 wet. 24 MS. RICHARDS: Yes. So if 2016 valid 25 signatures are collected by May 31st, it will go to the 6 1 November 3rd ballot. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Wish you luck. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Claudia. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Next item on the agenda 5 Commissioners Comments. Start with 1. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I have nothing to 7 report. I'm tapped out. 8 JUDGE KELLY: That's a good thing. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'll pass. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Nothing today. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Not much. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay, well this is a Special 14 Meeting. Looked like we picked the right week to do it. 15 Getting on to the consideration agenda, item 1.1 16 consider, discuss and take appropriate action regarding 17 new road between Texas Highway 16 and Highway 173 on the 18 southern boundary of proposed Vintage Heights 19 Subdivision, communications with TxDOT, and the November 20 bond election. 21 I put this on the agenda because I want to 22 know what's going on. I'm tired about reading about it 23 in the paper. I guess y'all saw the headlines today. 24 We had one last week. These are things that I don't 25 know about. We haven't had this on the agenda, so this 7 1 is something new. 2 So because the law requires that we be 3 transparent and discuss it in public, I put it on the 4 agenda. What I do know is that on February the second, 5 I was summoned to a meeting with the developer, Mr. 6 Comack, and to his credit he was very forthright. I 7 know more than receded that he told me that the ask from 8 the development is for the County to allow -- award, 9 allow, Chapter 381 economic incentive in the amount of 10 two million dollars. The first I've heard of it. So I 11 think it's time that we discuss it. So -- 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: May I? 13 JUDGE KELLY: Yes, Sir, you may. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me give you some 15 background. For a long period of time it's been 16 recognized that River Hills Boulevard is a major -- I'm 17 going to be careful and not say thoroughfare, but a 18 major passage for all traffic -- nothing is excluded 19 from between highway 173 and Highway 16, both back and 20 forth. It's sort of a continuation of loop 534, if you 21 will. 534 ends at 173. 22 So with that, the City -- it's in the City. 23 The City has done a lot to try and control the traffic 24 speed, okay, not control the traffic per se, by putting 25 stop signs, putting speed bumps, putting roundabouts 8 1 throughout there. It's still an issue. This Court, 2 okay, while you were sitting in the blue seats, passed a 3 Resolution in March two years ago, March 2018. We had 4 TxDOT come in, and we asked them to let us know how we 5 would get on the highway plans, TxDOT plans for a 6 thoroughfare between -- that would parallel or relieve 7 the route, the traffic, on River Hills Boulevard. 8 TxDOT told us to pass a Resolution, which we 9 did, okay? We sent that Resolution via letter to TxDOT 10 in March, 2018, asking them to put on their plan an 11 alternate route. As of last week, they had not put 12 that -- not honored the request that we made, so there's 13 been with the promotion and information regarding 14 Vintage Heights, which is on Highway 16 and to the east 15 of River Hills Boulevard, would potentially 511 homes, I 16 think will be there. Any time they go south -- or 17 excuse me, north, they're going to go to River Hills 18 Boulevard, okay, if they're going from that area to the 19 north, unless they go through downtown. So that's 20 prompted the need for an alternate route. 21 The other thing that's prompted the need for 22 it is the new intermediate school on 534. So with both 23 of those now, you got a big magnet pulling both ways, 24 okay, for traffic to flow north to south. We didn't 25 include that in the Resolution because we didn't know 9 1 about it, but we just said with the advent of the sewer 2 system and everything else that we're doing in Center 3 Point toward Comfort that there's going to be real 4 estate development. And therefore, we encouraged TxDOT 5 to include that. 6 TxDOT probably will not put that alternate 7 route in because they don't have the funds to do it, and 8 it's not high on their priority list, according to a 9 spokesman of TxDOT. I met with City Manager last week 10 to discuss this, it's of interest. There's a route laid 11 out -- concept, okay, for a route, to the eastern edge 12 of Schreiner Park, which would go from Highway 173 to 13 16. It's through private land except when it intersects 14 Highway 16, that'll be in Vintage Heights. 15 There's a dedicated right of way that's part 16 of their plat for a segment of this road, which is a 17 very small segment of the road. If the road right now 18 is it's 40 percent -- if that path were to be -- which 19 is about 2.3 miles, okay, between the two major 20 highways. Of that length of road, about 60 percent's in 21 the County, 40 percent's in the City. And how it will 22 be funded, how it will be built is TBD. We have no idea 23 how to do it. 24 I asked that we put that on the -- the other 25 day when we were looking at the capital improvement 10 1 projects, I asked that this be included in the county's 2 capital improvement projects as a potential item to put 3 on the bond election, whenever that happens in November. 4 So whether or not that that stays on the list is to be 5 determined also. But it's a placeholder for it. 6 So I think everybody recognizes the need. 7 The City recognizes the need. I think a lot of the 8 residents. I certainly recognize the need for it as 9 being in Precinct 2, and so I've been an advocate for 10 doing something as quickly as we can. The question is 11 how we do it, okay, and that's where it stands right 12 now. So the need is there. The need is there. When, 13 as soon as possible. How, to be determined. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, the need really 15 isn't there until the subdivision is there. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The need is there right 17 now. 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Why? 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Because of the traffic. 20 I think somebody counted the other day like 900 cars a 21 day go that route. And so anyway, the need is there. 22 It's through a residential area, major route, so -- 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I would -- I'd say 24 it's more of a want than a need at this point. And I 25 sure don't want to bog down our capital improvement 11 1 committee with this. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, you and I 3 disagree. 4 JUDGE KELLY: They're here to talk to us 5 today. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good deal. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: There's a lot of 8 roads -- 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think -- I think -- 10 well, anyway, we'll put it on the list, okay, and we'll 11 debate it. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And we have a lot of 13 roads with a lot of traffic, and that doesn't make an 14 urgent issue. 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. Right. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Because people like it 17 or don't like it or whatever. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, so that's -- 19 that's all I have to say about it as background. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I'm ready to weigh in. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good deal. 22 JUDGE KELLY: This Court has not talked 23 about the Vintage Heights Subdivision, and now we have a 24 two million dollar ask. And now we're reading about it 25 in the newspaper that you're telling people that the 12 1 County passed a 60 percent of a new road that is, if 2 it's not in the City limits, is certainly in the ETJ of 3 the City. And that if we built it would ultimately be 4 deeded to the City. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We don't build roads. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Well, but if we pay for it. 7 We pay for it. And so I am diametrically 100 percent 8 unequivocally opposed. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: They haven't even come 10 and made the ask. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Who's they? 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: The developer. 13 JUDGE KELLY: They called me over and they 14 made the ask. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Not in the Court here. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let me talk about that. 17 If you'll look at the information agenda. You'll find 18 it under item -- we're doing this the way the County 19 Attorney tells us to do it now. It's under 3.2. It's a 20 status report that I give as 3.2(a). And you'll see the 21 381 policy and the Vintage Heights policy. And we can 22 take that and discuss it now a little bit, so that 23 everybody understands what's going on. 24 The ask that was made by Vintage Heights, 25 which was two million dollars. I learned at that time 13 1 that they have already secured 4.5 million dollars from 2 the City, which it being in the City, I guess if they 3 think that's economic development, so be it. I 4 personally don't think that's economic development. 5 I remember we had a request in here and our 6 chapter 381 policy on that mixed-use development, The 7 Landing. And what you heard from Commissioner Moser was 8 that residential is not economic development. Economic 9 development to me are jobs, permanent jobs. Benefits, 10 paid benefits, that's what economic development means to 11 me. 12 We don't have a chapter 381 policy in place, 13 and if you'll recall last week, we approved hiring an 14 attorney in Austin to help us develop that policy for 15 this very reason. And I informed Mr. Comack and his 16 engineer on this -- on -- it was February the 4th that I 17 met with them, that we first have to have a policy 18 before they can -- before we can approve an application 19 for the economic incentives that are requested of the 20 ask, if you will. And so we're starting off by trying 21 to get the 381 policy, and so that'll be the next thing 22 that comes before the Court. 23 The other thing that I didn't say about the 24 meeting that I had with them that was startling, is the 25 ask is that they have it because -- before they start 14 1 construction on April the first. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: They have to ask before 3 then. They have to have it before then. 4 JUDGE KELLY: They tell me they're breaking 5 ground on April the first, and they need to have this in 6 place for us to do that, at which point I said that's 7 not a realistic timetable for the County. Anybody that 8 works for the County knows we don't move that fast. 9 And so this whole thing is kind of a cart 10 before the horse if you ask me. The whole thing about 11 the road, the whole thing about the subdivision and the 12 ask to the County at this point. But nobody's talking 13 about it. And my concern is, I try to put together 14 these agendas and we put on here that we're going to 15 have status reports. We haven't had a status report on 16 Vintage Heights since I've been sitting in this chair. 17 We haven't had a status report on that road since I've 18 been sitting in this chair. 19 I remember the aspirational Resolution that 20 was passed a couple years ago. Everybody what like a 21 cross arterial between 173 and 16. Everyone would like 22 a cross arterial between 39 and 27, right? 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 24 JUDGE KELLY: And one between 27 and I-10, 25 right? We need these cross arterials. They're very 15 1 expensive. And so far since I've been in this chair, 2 the money that we've been spending is all east on the 3 East Kerr County wastewater line. And where I sit right 4 now is we need to do what's best for the County. 5 And I think that at this point, we have a 6 major undertaking with our Capital Improvement Planning 7 Committee, which are here. We have two representatives 8 here from the committee, that we met with last Friday, 9 who wanted to appear to speak on this. Where we're 10 dealing with major improvements that the county needs 11 desperately today. And we have people here with Animal 12 Services today, which is one of the major needs that we 13 have. 14 And so before we get distracted with this 15 economic development hoax, as the President likes to 16 say, let's get down to the business at hand. We've got 17 the county business that needs to be tended to. 18 At this point I'd love for the 19 representatives from capital improvement to share with 20 the Court your sentiment about putting this road on the 21 bond issue this November, which I happen to believe 22 would be the kiss of death. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me say one more 24 thing about open meeting laws and things like that. 25 Commissioner Letz and I met with the developer and the 16 1 engineer several weeks ago to understand what was there, 2 and we wanted the other members of the Court to know 3 what was being discussed, okay, and so we asked the 4 developer and the engineer to meet with each one of you 5 because we couldn't, or else we go to prison, and that's 6 not a good idea. 7 So that's a reason, I think -- and he also 8 knew that we didn't have a 381. We can't even consider 9 a 381 because we don't have a 381 policy. We do have a 10 draft, okay, that's there. I think it's -- personally, 11 I think it's a very good draft. Whether or not we need 12 to have anything else -- it looked at for legal, I don't 13 see -- well, anyway. I don't know how long -- 14 JUDGE KELLY: Trust me, we do. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- lawyers takes to 16 look at it. Because the policy's been around for a long 17 time. It just hasn't been adopted, so that's what it 18 is. 19 I will officially say, I don't appreciate 20 you calling it a hoax. This issue is not a hoax. You 21 can ask any people in here, I didn't ask -- we didn't 22 know this was going to be this type of discussion. 23 Probably would have filled the room with people from 24 River Hills and people that live in 173 and Highway 16 25 of needing a thoroughfare through there without going 17 1 through a residential area, so anyway. I don't think 2 it's a hoax at all. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I don't know if 4 it's a hoax, but you know the whole -- everything I know 5 about this has been advertised as affordable housing. 6 And they're using a 40-year note to fit their narrative, 7 and to me, that approaches a hoax. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Let me correct one 9 misstatement, Commissioner. You don't go to prison if 10 you talk about it in public, and you don't bring it to 11 the public for us to be able to talk about it here 12 today. That's why I put it on the agenda, because you 13 wouldn't. And so I want the public to hear. 14 This is the first time we've had a chance to 15 talk about it. We don't go to prison if we talk about 16 it in this room in front of God and everybody. And 17 that's what we're doing today. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Well, I'm 19 looking forward since we don't know what's going on with 20 the -- with the capital improvement group, I'm looking 21 forward to hearing that, so thank you for putting it on 22 the agenda. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, for my part, I 24 didn't know that they made the ask. 25 JUDGE KELLY: I tapped out. 18 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah, you tapped out. 2 JUDGE KELLY: I tapped out. So when I came 3 back, smoke was coming out of my ears. He caught me in 4 the hall, I'm pointing to Commissioner Harris, and I 5 tapped out. And so as much as I wanted to talk to 6 everybody else -- and Commissioner Moser and 7 Commissioner Letz where tapped out because they're on 8 economic development. So the four of us were tapped out 9 and you're the only guy in the room that didn't know 10 what was happening. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I just found out about 12 it when y'all did. Just for the record. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well, isn't that crazy? 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's the way it 15 works. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's the way it 17 works. 18 JUDGE KELLY: That's why I put it on the 19 agenda, because you needed to know and they need to 20 know. We all need to know. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, that's the reason 22 I mentioned it at the last time we discussed capital 23 improvements. I said how do I put it on the list. 24 Jonathan Letz said it's on the list, so therefore, I 25 assume it's on the list, and I thought that was public. 19 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let me -- wait a second. 2 I've been very quiet. And I know Bobby -- you know, 3 what I said was refer it to the capital improvement 4 committee and let them look at what they want to do. 5 And I think we'll hear what they want to do. 6 On the other part, I mean quickly, I 7 understand why they plan to make an ask. They haven't 8 made an ask. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: They haven't made an 10 ask. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They may have made an 12 ask to the Judge, but that's not an ask. That's just 13 what they want to do. And they may have told me the 14 same thing; maybe told me something different. So -- 15 but they plan to do something. And I'm not totally 16 against it because their reasoning is to try to keep the 17 price of the homes lower. Whether or not, you know, you 18 want to call it affordable housing or not, that's 19 debatable. 20 With the cost of real estate in this area, 21 if we want additional housing, this is something we may 22 have to look at. I'm not saying I'm for or against 23 this. I think it's a step towards affordable housing. 24 Some of the homes will be affordable housing, and some 25 won't, as I understand, Vintage Hills -- is that what 20 1 it's called? Vintage Park, or -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Vintage Heights. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Vintage Heights. So on 4 that part, you know, at some point I presume they will 5 make an ask. And Commissioner Moser was correct that he 6 and I met with them and a recommendation was meet with 7 the rest of the Court because we can't talk to them, to 8 anybody, because we both were in that same meeting. So 9 that's why they went to the Judge, and I presume their 10 plan was to go to the other two Commissioners as well. 11 On the road, I'm in favor of the road, but I 12 also look at it as a City problem. I don't look at it 13 as a County problem. I don't mind us participating to a 14 small extent because county residents are city 15 residents, but it's a city problem. The City made the 16 River Hills Boulevard the way it is, and they're making 17 Vintage Heights the way it is. 18 So I would work with the City, but I'm not 19 in favor of us taking the lion's share with the lead on 20 that project. So anyway, that's my two cents. 21 JUDGE KELLY: And I appreciate your 22 patience, just so everybody knows. 23 DR. TEMPLETON: Not a problem. 24 JUDGE KELLY: They couldn't make the ask 25 because we don't have the policy. So what I was asked 21 1 is can they submit the application before we pass the 2 policy. I said, I think you can submit an application 3 and it'll sit in the stack, it'll get in the queue and 4 we'll consider it when it comes up. But that's where I 5 left it with. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I question that 7 statement, Judge, just from the standpoint, and we need 8 a policy. But we have done four economic development 9 tax abatement-type plans without a policy. So we can do 10 it without a policy. It's probably not wise to do it 11 without a policy, we should have a policy, but I think 12 legally we can do it. It depends on -- it depends on -- 13 an abatement we can't to without a policy and a public 14 hearing and that. But what I understand is they're not 15 asking for a rebate. 16 JUDGE KELLY: A refund. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But the project cannot 18 have begun before that happens. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, if that -- that's 20 not true. That's not true. That's in our policy -- 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's the basis of the 22 last one. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I know, but -- 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's the basis of the 25 last one. 22 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me finish, if I 2 may. Okay? That's what the policy said that's not been 3 adopted. Now, I think that's a good -- I think that's 4 a good requirement, personally. I think it's really 5 good. But right now we don't have anything that says 6 that can't, that that's a fact. So okay. 7 JUDGE KELLY: So that the press understands 8 there used not to be a legislative requirement that we 9 have a policy, but there is now. And so in order for us 10 to do an abatement the legislature says we have to have 11 a policy. That's why we're hiring the lawyer to help us 12 out with a policy. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But they asked me if it 14 was not an abatement, so it didn't require -- that State 15 Law does not apply. And the other ones we have done 16 would not qualify as an abatement either because they 17 were different types of refunds. 18 And so, I mean we need to have a policy, I 19 think we're all on the same page. But you know, it's 20 all premature, because until we get an ask -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: I understand. But I want to 22 be careful that we don't conflate -- there's a two-bit 23 word for you. That we don't conflate the definitions of 24 the road and then the economic development incentive 25 that's being requested or asked for with regard to the 23 1 residential subdivision. 2 And I want to go on record today so that 3 everybody knows exactly where I stand, I'm not in favor 4 of economic development incentives for just 5 neighborhoods. If that's the case, we're going to have 6 KB neighborhoods lined all the way from Kerrville to 7 Comfort, and I'm against that. 8 Unless there are jobs associated with the 9 request that comes before this Court, I have no interest 10 in them. And I just want to make that public and I want 11 to share that with the Commissioners and so you know 12 exactly how to approach me when we have one of these 13 requests to try to get my support for it. But I want to 14 see jobs, permanent jobs. And I want to see paid 15 benefits. You show me that, and I'm ready to sit down 16 and see what we can do to help you. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Primary jobs; not just 18 jobs. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, primary jobs. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Okay. Just 21 wanted to make that clear. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Right. We've got our capital 23 improvement people here, so I'll call Dr. Templeton back 24 to the podium now. 25 DR. TEMPLETON: Okay. So I'm good now, 24 1 right? My name is Bobby Templeton, I am but one member 2 of your Capital Improvements Committee. I have another 3 member here, and that is Brenda Hughes, and I appreciate 4 her coming. 5 I will give you an update on where we are in 6 terms of our -- or what will be our recommended 7 projects, and then I'll give you a brief summary of our 8 thinking behind that. Last meeting we brought to you, I 9 believe, it was ten projects that we wanted to include 10 on a list. And we are continuing with those ten 11 projects. 12 We did come back and have a meeting and do 13 some -- some due diligence on a new road and 14 infrastructure, and at this point that would not be our 15 recommendation to bring forth to you. 16 Our recommendation would be to stay with the 17 projects that we have already presented and I'll tell 18 you the reason why. And I think it's already been 19 ferreted out a little bit by this group. We, as your 20 committee, felt like that any type of infrastructure, 21 especially transportation infrastructure, would be a 22 want rather than a need. This list that we brought 23 forth is by no means exhaustive. There are many many 24 other needs that the committee -- each of the committee 25 members have voiced several concerns that they thought 25 1 could be brought forth in terms of a project. 2 I'll give you one example. In my area, I 3 live out in West Kerr County. Mr. Harris is my 4 Commissioner. We have, to our knowledge, 20 low water 5 crossings that are school busses and our school kids and 6 our parents have to get across. It's very dangerous. 7 There's always some issues there. So we feel like 8 there's always going to be some added need 9 infrastructure, but for our purposes we are not going to 10 be bringing forth that recommendation. 11 There's always going to have to be some kind 12 of triage, a go, no go, or for our purposes, a 13 recommend, not recommend. And any type of 14 infrastructure -- transportation infrastructure would 15 probably -- would certainly not be on our recommended 16 list. 17 And I'll entertain any questions that you 18 have about the committee process. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: There was another thing 20 I mentioned the other day, too was -- as everybody 21 probably knows that TxDOT spent, I don't know, 15 22 million dollars or something like that in improving 23 Highway 27 between -- essentially between the Road & 24 Bridge Department all the way to the other side almost 25 to Comfort. They improved the drainage so that water 26 1 flows underneath Highway 27, but there's in some places 2 there's no way to get it to the river. That's the 3 county's responsibility, and I suggested that that be 4 put on there. Was that considered? 5 DR. TEMPLETON: Yes, Sir, it was discussed. 6 It was. And again I'll fall back to the same thing that 7 we talked about earlier, that would be what our 8 consideration would be, a less important project. It 9 would not make our list. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Well, that's why 11 we have a committee. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Can you share with the Court 13 and the public the types of projects that you have 14 prioritized for this bond issue? 15 DR. TEMPLETON: I have. There are 10 16 primary projects. Number 1 is Animal Control. Number 2 17 is a courthouse annex. Courthouse grounds. Some 18 rearrangement that goes along with that. The Hill 19 Country Youth Event Center needs some updating. 20 Juvenile Detention Center. Maintenance facility. 21 Precinct 4 Annex. Road and Bridge. And we need some 22 storage capacity within the District -- or within the 23 County also. 24 We're dealing with facilities that are in 25 our opinion wholly inadequate for the job of which 27 1 they're tasked to do. I'll give this courthouse as an 2 example. There is not nearly enough storage, there's 3 not enough space, there's not enough IT. This 4 courthouse was built -- I can't -- Brenda, do you 5 remember? 6 MRS. HUGHES: What's that? 7 DR. TEMPLETON: You all probably know, when 8 was the courthouse built? 9 JUDGE KELLY: '26 or '29. 10 DR. TEMPLETON: I'll just go with that. 11 I'll just with a long time ago. And it was adequate at 12 the time, but over the course of several generations, we 13 feel that as citizens of Kerr County, we need to upgrade 14 several things. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a comment. I was 16 at the meeting, and the committee pretty much -- I 17 listen more than I speak at that committee meeting. But 18 the other thing that I did hear that was -- that it's 19 beyond their -- I don't want to say knowledge, of their 20 knowledge base. 21 When you start getting into drainage and 22 looking at all the roads in the County, and the drainage 23 issues in the county, that's an engineering issue 24 largely. And that's not their -- that's not their job, 25 that's not their function. Their function was to look 28 1 at the facilities. And you know, I agree with you that 2 there are drainage needs, significant ones, especially 3 the eastern part of the County. There may be other ones 4 and I just don't know those. 5 And the infrastructure. One of them needs a 6 road there, and there are other roads that are 7 important. But I think it's beyond the scope and the -- 8 you know, you really need to hire an engineer to look at 9 the next step. So you know, this committee is looking 10 at facilities, and beyond that is clouding the water. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think that's a very 12 good clarification. I think -- probably it oughta be 13 identified as facilities; not just capital improvements. 14 Because I think one of the other things that we 15 mentioned was a box hangar at the airport. Well, that's 16 a facility, but that's still, you know -- 17 DR. TEMPLETON: Yes, Sir. That's a fair 18 point. Facility, I think is the primary goal here. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. And that's the 20 way it oughta be. And if that had been facilities, I'd 21 never mentioned roads or drainage, okay? Capital 22 improvement, then you know, that's capital improvement. 23 Okay. 24 DR. TEMPLETON: We don't think that -- we 25 certainly believe that there are more projects. It's 29 1 just with our expertise, our charge, we are going to be 2 bringing forth, we anticipate about ten projects, and 3 that would not be one of them. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I think that's fair. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you, Dr. 6 Templeton. 7 DR. TEMPLETON: Yes, Sir. 8 JUDGE KELLY: At this time I'm going to make 9 a motion that the capital improvement bond issue for 10 November not include the Vintage Heights Road that we've 11 already discussed here today. I'd like to get the 12 record cleared so we know exactly what we're looking at. 13 We have major issues that need to be addressed this fall 14 in that bond issue and we need to get everybody on the 15 same page. So I make a motion that we not include the 16 road at this time. 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? Those 19 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 20 Next item on the agenda item 1.2 consider, 21 discuss and take appropriate action on approving real 22 estate appraiser for various projects. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, I was hoping at 24 this time that I would have definite -- that you and I 25 would have definite dollar amounts, which I don't have. 30 1 I have found an appraiser that's willing to do it, but 2 haven't gotta quote back from them. So I really do need 3 to pass on this until our next meeting until we get a 4 definite proposal. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And these appraisals are for 6 the property that we'd be looking to acquire in with 7 these capital improvements, these facility improvements. 8 Or one property that the County presently has that we 9 might consider putting on the market to be sold. We 10 have to know the fair market value, so that's what those 11 appraisals are for. So we'll pass that for another 12 time. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Question, if I may. 14 What is the schedule and plan for the Facility Capital 15 Improvement Committee to come back to the Court? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: May-ish. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: May-ish, okay. 18 JUDGE KELLY: The discussion that we've had 19 at the committee level, and Miss Hughes is still here, 20 has been to try to get this thing wrapped up in the 21 April time frame, and get something to the Court in the 22 May time frame, to give us time as the summer comes. We 23 get to the summer that we've got time to be able to put 24 together the committee and everything to handle the bond 25 issue. 31 1 For those of you that don't know the Court 2 cannot advocate or go out and lobby for this bond issue. 3 We have a committee that would be -- there will be -- 4 the private citizens can do that, but the Court cannot. 5 We can give you information about what it is, and why we 6 need it, but we can't be on the stump out there trying 7 to get people to go vote for it. 8 Let's go to item 1.3 consider, discuss and 9 take appropriate action for the appointment of a member 10 to the Kerrville Christmas Lighting Corporation Board. 11 I seem him out there. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll get this started. 13 And in general want to make a comment, and he can 14 certainly. I mentioned in an information item a while 15 back that the Kerrville Christmas Lighting Corporation 16 has kind of been rejuvenated, recreated, and that I'm 17 currently attending the meetings as a sort of "maybe" 18 Board Member. I'm not sure what I am. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: A listener. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: An advisor. And anyway 21 since that discussion a board of people is being 22 recreated, and question came up about City and County 23 representative, and I think we need to have a Liaison on 24 that committee. I don't know that we need to have a 25 voting member, and I think the City feels the same way. 32 1 They've appointed, I believe, a Liaison, which is Ashley 2 Boyle. 3 So I don't really want to do it long term, 4 but if the Court's -- for the short term, I would be 5 willing to continue for the Liaison if the Court so 6 chooses. And it doesn't need to be a member of the 7 Court. It does need to be somebody to work with that 8 committee. 9 And again, the committee's purpose as it's 10 being reborn, or restructured is really to be a 11 fund-raising vehicle. And then they would fund 12 primarily City and County Christmas decorations. It 13 could be somebody other than City and County, but that 14 would be the majority of the, I guess, most likely 15 source of the use of their funds. They can be anything 16 from the courthouse grounds, ornaments on Sidney Baker. 17 Tranquility Island, which is already under way a little 18 bit with the Cit. Probably at River Star. So that 19 those are some of the things that the committee is 20 talking about. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Now are you talking 22 about raising money to buy new stuff, or are you talking 23 about managing the set up and putting up the displays, 24 or -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. Just raising money. 33 1 Raising money, the entities. And this is, you know, 2 primarily City and County would be responsible. And 3 KPUB is working with a lot of them. They're in the mix 4 of agreement that they would help decorations to go on 5 light poles and electric poles and all that. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That would be nice. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's the type of 8 thing. But it's a fund-raising vehicle that can then 9 spend the money, because I think the committee realizes 10 and things that it's probably unlikely that there's ever 11 going to be a government like the County is going to go 12 out and buy a bunch of Christmas decorations. But there 13 is a need there. So that's kind of where it is right 14 now. George, did I -- 15 MR. EYCHNER: Thank you for volunteering. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Short term. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Let the record reflect this is 18 George Eychner. Are you the President, or the head or 19 what? 20 MR. EYCHNER: I will be the President after 21 Thursday. Thank you though. Appreciate you bringing 22 this up. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Is there a goal to -- 24 you mentioned Sidney Baker twice. Is there a goal to 25 put some Christmas decorations -- 34 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The initial goal would 2 be -- or one of the initial goals -- I guess there's 3 three kind of primary ones. One is putting decorations 4 on Sidney Baker. Someday maybe from the interstate all 5 the way downtown. But at least maybe from about Antler 6 Stadium to downtown. Also last year Tranquility Island 7 got lit up by, I guess, the City funded, I'm not sure 8 who funded, but it was done. But that would like to be 9 expanded. 10 And then another item or topic that's been 11 discussed is out at River Star, doing some kind of a 12 Christmas walkthrough, Christmas celebration type thing, 13 that they would help fund the lights. 14 And they're primarily, the committee, is 15 working with Jake a little bit to find out what does 16 that mean, what's it cost to do something like that, to 17 have something to use that facility. 18 So but it's a -- the Christmas Lighting 19 Corporation is a fund -- will be a fund raising tool 20 only, so we -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: Sounds worth while. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I make a motion that 23 Commissioner Letz be appointed to -- from the County, to 24 work with the Christmas Lighting Committee. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 35 1 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 2 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris -- 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You didn't see it going 4 that way, did ya? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, this isn't quite 6 what I saw. 7 (Laughter.) 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Oh, there was no doubt 9 in my mind. 10 JUDGE KELLY: -- to appoint Commissioner 11 Letz to serve on the Kerrville Christmas Lighting 12 Corporation Board. Any further discussion? Those in 13 favor raise your hand. Unanimous -- any abstain? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll abstain. 15 JUDGE KELLY: So it's four zero one, one 16 abstention. 17 MR. EYCHNER: Thank you. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.4 on the agenda. I 19 know many of you waited for this one, so I appreciate 20 your patience. Consider, discuss and take appropriate 21 action on authorizing Kerrville Pets Alive trailer to 22 be parked on the Kerr County Animal Services property. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll talk about it real 24 quick, and if others want to make some comments. The 25 Kerrville Pets Alive have -- they purchased, or were 36 1 given somehow, they are now in possession of a trailer 2 that's been parked over by the Cailloux for a little 3 bit. They're doing some work on it. But they would 4 like to long term, or until we say no, let them park 5 that trailer at the animal shelter. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So that it's visible. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It is visible, it is 8 part of it. It would be basically where the strays are, 9 there's a trailer, and in that vacant lot. It will be 10 parked there parallel to the highway. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Store it there. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Store it there. And 13 they would also potentially use it there, weekends and 14 other times. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I thought the 16 idea was to take it out and -- 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It is too. 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- to the four corners. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's a possibility. 20 But it also needs to be somewhere all the time. And 21 that's a good location, and it's a secure location, and 22 it's visible so people see it. It's a -- 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Convenient. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Convenient to everybody. 25 JUDGE KELLY: I don't know why Mr. King 37 1 doesn't want it on his front driveway. 2 MR. KING: I have a gate. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So anyway, that's kind 4 of what the request is. And anyone want to make any 5 comments? So I make a motion -- 6 MRS. GUERRIERO: I would -- 7 JUDGE KELLY: And this is Karen Guerriero. 8 MRS. GUERRIERO: This is Karen Guerriero. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Trying to identify for the 10 record. 11 MRS. GUERRIERO: Karen Guerriero. We'd like 12 to -- after to trailer gets a little bit of a facelift, 13 we'd like to move it over there in hopes that we can 14 work with the County to facilitate some possible 15 Saturday openings that might be on a future agenda. And 16 get the visibility out there for Kerrville Pets Alive. 17 It's a great spot for travelers as they go by. And I 18 think that eventually we'll be able to have activity and 19 events related to that trailer. It's about visibility, 20 and we'll be able to have some access to it as well. 21 And we're excited about it. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I may be confused 23 on the point of it. The trailer being out there is to 24 take animals and let people see them -- 25 MRS. GUERRIERO: Exactly. 38 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- for adoption. 2 MRS. GUERRIERO: Right. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What would be the point 4 of also having the animal shelter open on a Saturday for 5 that? 6 MRS. GUERRIERO: Well -- 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let me handle that one, 8 Karen, real quick. 9 MRS. GUERRIERO: I can handle it. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: She has the floor. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Okay. Let Karen 12 talk about it. 13 MRS. GUERRIERO: Well we worked on some -- 14 we're trying to work out some agreements with liability 15 issues, and volunteers, an issue with that. So we are 16 taking baby steps as I've been told are the best way to 17 approach things, and work some details out with the 18 agreement between Kerrville Pets Alive and the County. 19 And eventually -- if you'll look in the 20 window right now as it's been parked at the Cailloux, 21 and I know the word aspirations has been used over too 22 much, but we have aspirations of taking County pets out. 23 We had to get specific insurance to take certain breeds 24 out into the community. We have that in place and -- 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And that wouldn't be 39 1 necessary if it was at the shelter? 2 MRS. GUERRIERO: No. No. We would like to 3 take the County pets out to different mobile adoption 4 sites. 5 JUDGE KELLY: As long as it's parked at our 6 Animal Control facility then the ownership of the pets 7 and those liability issues are all consumed because it's 8 there. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But one of the reasons 10 also, and this will come to the Court in the future. We 11 talked about it last week, sometime. I had a meeting 12 with Kerrville Pets Alive. That we're not real 13 comfortable, or I'm not real comfortable. I think 14 Reagan's -- we don't want to turn over the keys to 15 Kerrville Pets Alive to that facility. And that 16 facility just the way it is, there are some security 17 issues. 18 Dogs are not as much of a problem because 19 they're in that outside kennel, those that can be 20 adopted. Cats are an issue. If the trailer's out 21 there, and we figure out a way where they're out there 22 on Saturday doing an adoption event, the cats could go 23 to to that trailer and be housed, because -- and then 24 you know, at a certain given time during the day then 25 they can back into the shelter. So it's a way for the 40 1 cats to get exposed also because they can go into the 2 trailer during the day, rather than having people 3 roaming through the facility. 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What's going to happen 5 in the hottest months? How is that trailer set up? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Air-conditioning. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Air-conditioning. 8 Everything's fine. Generator? 9 MRS. GUERRIERO: We will have that all up 10 and running. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's about as nice as 12 your house probably. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Probably nicer. 14 Probably get more respect there, too. 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: More treats. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: More treats. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The trailer will be used 18 by Kerrville Pets Alive while it's there, and also at 19 other locations. 20 I'll make a motion that we authorize 21 Kerrville Pets Alive to store their adoption trailer at 22 the Kerrville Animal Services facility. 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 25 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 41 1 approve authorizing Kerrville Pets Alive trailer to be 2 parked at Kerr County Animal Services facility. Any 3 other discussion? Those in favor raise their hand. 4 Unanimous, five zero. 5 Last item on the consideration agenda is 1.5 6 discussion regarding liaison responsibilities and the 7 proposed schedule for quarterly reports. 8 This is a public discussion of a follow-up 9 meeting that we have had ongoing discussions with our 10 County Attorney, who couldn't be here today but she sent 11 her able assistant to give us legal guidance. 12 It has to do with our information part of 13 the agenda. And you've already heard me complain that 14 sometimes we don't get enough information shared here at 15 the Court. And we have -- one of my neighbors, who is 16 very very well versed in the Open Meetings Act 17 requirements, who is now diligently reviewing our 18 agendas as they get posted, and I either get a thumbs up 19 or thumbs down report card on whether or not we are 20 sufficient in identifying what we're going to be talking 21 about at the meeting. And we used to have -- when we 22 started all this, or we had our Thursday morning 23 meetings, we were doing status reports, just kind of 24 find out what department heads -- are going on with the 25 departments, what's going on in the elected offices, 42 1 what's going on with the Liaison Commissioners. 2 And the nut of all this is that is not 3 sufficient notice to the public about the specifics of 4 what we're going to talk about. So you'll notice that 5 in today's department updates and discussions, you'll 6 see that we do try to itemize it a little better so that 7 you the public know what we're talking about, and that 8 we the Commissioners know specifically what we're going 9 to talk about when we get here. 10 And in that process, I got a very curious 11 e-mail from our County Attorney providing me with a copy 12 of a policy that I didn't know that the Court had, but 13 it was very helpful. And that is that our Liaison -- 14 just something I over looked. That Liaison 15 Commissioners are supposed to provide quarterly reports 16 back to the Court, supposed to meet with the departments 17 or the offices, whoever their liaison liaising with once 18 a month, and so that would give us the continuity that 19 we're looking for to try to get the information back in 20 here in a public setting so that we could talk about 21 these things. Because as you can see it's not good when 22 we tap out. We have to be able to have all of us 23 participate in the discussion. 24 So I just wanted to bring this topic to the 25 Court for discussion about how best to handle trying to 43 1 keep us all abreast of what's going on in our 2 departments, in our offices, and our liaison 3 responsibilities. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I see Jody sent 5 out a draft of how to do this, a schedule, on which when 6 Liaison Commissioners would bring forth as it's with a 7 policy every quarter, so I think it's a good idea. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Well, in talking with Jody, 10 she's asked me can she just do it. And I said better 11 ask the Court if this is something that we want to do. 12 It's in our policy that we do it. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well then, let's do 14 it. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And this is a schedule 16 to do it. So I think we -- I make a motion that we 17 adopt that schedule and policy. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Just so the public 19 knows, the way it's laid out is that every first and -- 20 regular Commissioners' Court, first and third Mondays -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: No. Special Commissioners' 22 Court. 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Oh, that's right. The 24 Special. I'm sorry. Special Court, we go through the 25 Liaison Commissioner's report, and on certain ones, so 44 1 yeah. I move that we adopt this. 2 JUDGE KELLY: I think we got a motion from 3 Commissioner Moser. So you're a second? 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we have a motion by 6 Commissioner Moser, and a second by Commissioner Harris 7 that we approve the proposed schedule that Jody has 8 distributed to us for Liaison Commissioner reports. Any 9 other discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 10 Unanimous, five zero. 11 Okay, this is the boring part of the meeting 12 for those of you that don't want to hang around to pay 13 the bills. Let's go to the approval agenda. We have to 14 do this, that's why we meet weekly. 15 Item 2.1 pay the bills. Ms. Shelton. 16 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. Invoices for this week 17 include Kerr County $218,000.29. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We can't hear you. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay, let's come to order. We 20 have a soft voice at the podium. 21 MRS. SHELTON: Invoices for this week are 22 Kerr County for $218,000.29. The Airport $17,719.78. 23 Adult Probation $3,145.49. Juvenile Probation 24 $3,478.20. And the 198th District Attorney forfeiture 25 fund of $135.00. 45 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 4 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 5 approve to pay the bills as presented. Any other 6 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Five zero. 7 Next are budget amendments. 8 MR. ROBLES: Good morning. We have two 9 today. One for Maintenance. This is repairing the 10 Union Church floor. 11 JUDGE KELLY: I'm trying to discipline 12 myself to do this. This is James Robles, Assistant 13 County Auditor. 14 MR. ROBLES: Okay. Second one is a line 15 item transfer in the HR Department. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval for 17 the budget amendments as requested. 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 20 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 21 approve the budget amendments as requested. Any further 22 discussion? Those in favor raise their hand. 23 Unanimous, five zero. 24 Late bills. 25 MRS. SHELTON: There are not any. 46 1 JUDGE KELLY: Good. 2 2.4 court orders. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. We have court 4 orders from our February 10th regular session. Court 5 Orders 37942 to 37957. They all look to be in order and 6 I move for approval. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 9 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 10 approve court orders as presented. Those in favor raise 11 their hand. Five zero, unanimous. 12 * * * * * * 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 47 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify that 6 the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise a 7 true and correct transcription of the proceedings had in 8 the above-entitled Special Commissioners' Court 9 Consideration and Approval Agenda. 10 Dated this the 21st day of February, A.D. 11 2020. 12 13 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 14 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/31/2021 15 * * * * * * 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25