1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, June 8, 2020 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge HARLEY BELEW, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Precinct 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Precinct 3 25 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Commissioners' Comments. 5 4 *** Public Input. 8 5 *** Commissioners' Comments. 11 6 1.1 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 11 action regarding update, facility use and 7 other matters related to COVID-19. 8 1.2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 14 action to extend the Local State of 9 Disaster Due to a Public Health and Economic Emergency Proclamation that was 10 signed by Judge Kelly on March 24, 2020, and "extended until terminated by 11 order of the Kerr County Commissioners' Court" on March 30, 2020. 12 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 13 action to approve the Local Emergency Planning Committee Membership Update Form. 14 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 16 15 action on approving Interlocal Agreement with Center Point Independent School 16 District, CPISD, regarding using the Hill Country Youth Event Center, HCYEC, as an 17 evacuation center in case of emergency. 18 1.5 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 18 action to partner with the Upper Guadalupe 19 River Authority on a litter cleanup project by allowing the Maintenance Department to 20 build a box to hold litter bags to be placed at Ingram Dam. 21 1.6 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 24 22 action to approve copier agreement with Ricoh for the Crime Victims' Services 23 Department. 24 1.7 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 25 action to approve copier agreement with 25 Ricoh for the County Court at Law office. 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 25 action to approve the lease copier contract 4 between Documation and the District Courts. 5 1.9 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 26 action regarding the HB3834 Cybersecurity 6 Training for the State Department of Information Resources, and authorize the IT 7 Director to complete and submit the report before the June 15th deadline certifying 8 our completion. 9 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 27 action for final approval for naming rights 10 contract for the Expo Hall at the Hill Country Youth Event Center, (HCYEC). 11 1.11 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 33 12 action to address the possibility of prohibiting or restricting the sale or use 13 of restricted fireworks (i.e.: "skyrockets with sticks" and "missiles with fins") in 14 any portion of the unincorporated area of Kerr County pursuant to Local Government 15 Code 352.051 for the Fourth of July fireworks season. 16 2.1 Pay Bills. 40 17 2.2 Budget Amendments. 41 18 2.4 Auditor Reports. 47 19 2.5 Accept Monthly Reports. 48 20 2.6 Court Orders. 49 21 1.12 Public hearing for a revision of plat for 50 22 Vistas Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109, Volume 7, pages 363-364. 23 1.13 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 50 24 action for the Court to approve a revision of plat for Vistas Escondidas de Cypress 25 Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109, Volume 7, pages 363-364. 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.14 Consider, discuss, and take appropriate 51 action for the Court to waive platting 4 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville for a revision of plat for Paso 5 | Creek Ranch, Tracts 4 and 5, Volume 7, pages 152-153. 6 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 60 7 action for the Court to approve a final plat for De Leon Estates Section Five. 8 3.1 Status reports from Department Heads. 61 9 3.3 Status reports from Liaison Commissioners. 62 10 *** Adjournment. 69 11 *** Reporter's Certificate. 70 12 * * * * * * 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 5 1 JUDGE KELLY: Good morning. It is Monday, 2 June the 8th, 2020, at nine o'clock in the morning and 3 the Kerr County Commissioners' Court is now in session. 4 And if you would, please stand for the pledge and the 5 prayer started by Commissioner Letz. 6 (Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance.) 7 JUDGE KELLY: Please be seated. Okay. I 8 have my phone here for the public comment, which is 9 792-6161. Someone tried to call about five minutes 10 before 9:00 and I didn't answer it because we weren't in 11 session. So whoever it was that called, feel free to 12 call back and we'll take the public input. And just 13 remind everybody, we'll limit this to three minutes. 14 And when you make your comments, we cannot respond. We 15 can just listen to the input only. If you see, it 16 doesn't say output, it says input. So if the phone 17 rings -- we're going to do Commissioner Comments here. 18 If the phone rings, we'll interrupt and take the -- the 19 input. Okay. So how are things going out in the 20 County? Start with 2. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, let's see. We 22 had a public meeting on Martin Marietta rock crusher 23 permit renewal. And it was -- it was by webinar and 24 TCEQ conducted it. It was just a request of 25 Representative Murr to have it. It went well. There 6 1 was a lot of questions asked. There were some comments 2 provided, and Martin Marietta will -- and TCEQ will take 3 two to three weeks to respond to those comments. But 4 they're wasn't anything earth shattering. I think it 5 was part of the same type of thing that was discussed 6 when Martin Marietta held a town hall meeting several 7 months ago on the same subject. So I think that that 8 water's over the dam. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Good. Precinct 3. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have two things. I 11 think most of y'all know that I participate or sit in 12 for the Judge occasionally on the Thursday stakeholders 13 meeting with the State Emergency. And just one of the 14 things there that's interesting that that group has 15 moved into a mode of, kind of, preparing for what may 16 happen in the future, what's coming up next. If there 17 is a spike, how it's handled. But they're just mainly 18 bringing it up because there's a lot going on even 19 though it's not as quite as visible as it was for 20 awhile, so all the stakeholders, City, County, 21 hospitals, schools are all coordinated and trying to 22 figure out how the schools are going to get stared, both 23 the public schools and Schreiner. Both are intending to 24 have classes start in August. And -- but a lot of 25 different measures are going to be on the table and 7 1 interesting that all that's going on, which is good. 2 And the other thing is, I'd just ask 3 everything to be aware and watch out. Three 4 16-year-olds just got their driver's license. One of 5 them being Sam and two of -- the other two are his best 6 friends so -- and all of their birthdays were all within 7 a week of each other and interestingly two of them ended 8 up going to Jourdanton to get it and one of them was 9 able to squeeze in in Kerrville trying to -- for those 10 16-year-olds it's kind of hard to schedule an 11 appointment right now. And Jourdanton is the go-to 12 place. Interestingly, Sam and I went down there -- I 13 took Sam down there and there was one other kid there 14 and that kid was from Kerrville. Anyway, that's it. 15 (Phone ringing.) 16 JUDGE KELLY: Hello? 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: All right. In 18 Precinct 4 everything's green -- 19 JUDGE KELLY: Hold on just a minute. I'll 20 put you on the speaker phone. Go ahead. Go ahead. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Everything's green, 22 the pastures and the fields, and mowed the lawn, but 23 it's getting hot. Summer has arrived, I believe. 24 Another thing, when the Judge rolled out his 25 proposed budget and everything, I made a plea to several 8 1 Elected Officials and Department Heads to -- to look at 2 their operating costs and see if they could find another 3 ten percent. And -- and from the Auditor's -- some of 4 them have really stepped forward and been team players 5 and I want to recognize these people. And there's 6 probably more that are going to come in as well. 7 But as of right now, according to Auditor's 8 Department, these people have stepped up and looked and 9 found another ten percent, and that's Crime Victim 10 Services, Veterans Service, District Clerk, Justice of 11 the Peace Number 3, County Audit -- County Auditor, 12 County Attorney, Maintenance, Parks, Sheriff's 13 Department, Juvenile Probation and Ag Extension. And I 14 commend them. Those are team players, Judge. I really 15 appreciate all of them. Kudos to all y'all. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. We do have a 17 public input here. I have a public participation form 18 that I -- from Dusty Block, who lives here in Ingram, 19 Texas. Is that right, Mr. Block? 20 MR. BLOCK: Yes, sir. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. And this is your 22 opportunity to offer public input to the Court. 23 MR. BLOCK: Okay. Thank you. Good morning, 24 Commissioners and Judge. I just really quick wanted to 25 say I'm sorry for the delay. 9 1 (Commissioner Belew present.) 2 MR. BLOCK: I planned to speak at the 3 meeting on May 11th, but my schedule would not allow it 4 so we can do it now. On May 11th we talked about fire 5 fighter funding from the Volunteer Fire Departments. 6 And I understand there's going to be a workshop here 7 pretty soon. And I pray that this is a step in the 8 right direction and I'm excited to see what everybody 9 can come up with. 10 But the purpose of today's call is I just 11 wanted to quickly share my disapproval of, Judge, your 12 comments on that said meeting about how fire -- the Kerr 13 County fire departments only like their county for the 14 money. That's not the direct quote, but it's the 15 essence of the comment. 16 To me and other members of the community 17 have seen that comment has unnecessary and it was out of 18 place. And when it got down to it, it sounded like you 19 were disrespective and it was very unprofessional from a 20 viewer's standpoint. And, to me, once you consider what 21 we go through as fire fighters in Kerr County on a 22 yearly basis, whether you're paid or unpaid, it was just 23 -- it just felt like -- like we were disrespected. And 24 I feel that that situation warranted some type of 25 apology. And that's just probably the public and people 10 1 who I have spoke to about the situation. 2 And again, I apologize, it was back on the 3 docket on May 11th but, again, my schedule only allows 4 me to get to this point. And I -- I believe I only have 5 three minutes so I think that was pretty fast 6 approaching three minutes, so -- 7 JUDGE KELLY: You're about two minutes 8 fifteen seconds. You got 45 seconds to go. 9 MR. BLOCK: Okay. Well, then that's -- 10 that's just all I wanted to say. And so, I just wanted 11 to address that. And I thank y'all for letting me do 12 that. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well, thank you for 14 your input, Mr. Block. 15 MR. BLOCK: All right. Thank you. 16 JUDGE KELLY: And just to explain to 17 everybody. This is input, not output. We don't get to 18 respond to that at this point. We're going to have a 19 workshop, it will be next -- it will be on Wednesday, 20 the 17th of next week at ten o'clock. It's going to be 21 at the AG Barn out at the Youth Event Center, and 22 everyone's welcome. So thank you, Mr. Block. 23 MR. BLOCK: Thank you. 24 JUDGE KELLY: I'm going to go ahead and hang 25 up now. 11 1 Okay. The next item on the -- oh. 2 Commissioner -- Precinct 1, Commissioner Belew. How are 3 things going? 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I think we had the most 5 damage from the storm. I've been out surveying the 6 damage and I -- my advice is don't hire a roofer that's 7 from out of town. Don't hire a tree clearing, tree 8 trimming operation from out of town. Do business with 9 local folks. If you have to wait a little longer, be 10 safe. There's a lot of damage in Precinct 1, but we -- 11 we appreciate the rain. 12 JUDGE KELLY: All good. 13 As far as the County holding a notice, I 14 have my mask with me today but I'm not wearing it. I 15 will try to get back to as normal as we can. If I'm in 16 a big group, I will wear it. But we're socially 17 distanced spaced in here and I feel very comfortable. 18 So I'll just make that comment. 19 So with that, let's go ahead and begin the 20 Agenda and we'll start, as we always do these days, with 21 1.1, which is to consider, discuss and take appropriate 22 action regarding update, facility use and other matters 23 related to COVID-19. Dub Thomas, our Emergency 24 Management Coordinator. 25 MR. THOMAS: Good morning, Judge. Good 12 1 morning, Commissioners. I want to apologize first of 2 all. My laptop would not power up this morning so I 3 don't have the report to e-mail to you. I was waiting 4 on results from Peterson for the total amount of tests 5 for the time period. And my laptop just decided to sit 6 there and scroll and says please wait. So it was doing 7 that when I left the office. 8 What I can give you is some information 9 about COVID in Kerr County at the current time. We had 10 21 cases and we've had one fatality, sad to say. That's 11 our first fatality and I hope it's our last but -- and 12 we need to make sure that everybody continues to social 13 distancing, washing your hands, those types of things, 14 to keep -- to reduce the chances of getting COVID-19. 15 Some of the information I can give you off 16 of DSHS's website, total number of tests run from the 17 state is 1.2 million. Antibody tests are 118,000, 18 75,000 thousand -- 74,978 cases reported with 1,830 19 fatalities. And the State has 23,390 estimated active 20 cases with 49,000 -- nearly 50,000 estimated recoveries. 21 I think that's a great number to look at. And there's 22 235 of 254 counties reporting COVID-19 patients. So 19 23 more counties to go and we'll have the whole state will 24 have been affected. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Dub, how many -- 13 1 what's the trend with people in the hospital with COVID? 2 In the state? Do you know that? 3 MR. THOMAS: Currently, there are 1,878 4 people in hospitals around the State. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Hold on. What's -- 6 what's the trend though? 7 MR. THOMAS: It just keeps going up. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Going up? 9 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Hum. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But they go in the 12 hospital and get out? 13 MR. THOMAS: They go to the hospital and, 14 yeah, they get out. I mean, yeah. Take a look at -- 15 even for Kerr County, we've had one fatality but we've 16 had over 2,100 tests done, with 21 positives. Our 17 infection rate is .009. So -- 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Is there anything you 19 can tell us about the fatality? Any pre-existing 20 condition? 21 MR. THOMAS: No, sir, I can't. I -- I know 22 that the individual was in Peterson Regional for a while 23 and when they turned for the worst they -- they shipped 24 him to a hospital in San Antonio. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other -- 14 1 MR. THOMAS: Other than that, I'll just have 2 to e-mail you the rest of the report that I have. I 3 know that on June the 3rd, the Governor opened up his 4 third -- third phase for opening up the State of Texas, 5 which raised everything to about 75 percent. And there 6 was some other exclusions in there where you could go to 7 a hundred percent. So I'll just have to e-mail it all 8 to you. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you very much. 10 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 11 JUDGE KELLY: And then we go to 1.2, which 12 is consider, discuss and take appropriate action 13 regarding the Local State of Disaster Due to a Public 14 Health and Economic Emergency Proclamation that I signed 15 on March the 24th and extended until terminated by 16 further order of the Kerr County Commissioners' Court on 17 March the 30th. We review this every week. Any 18 discussion? 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Things seem to be getting 21 better. We're moving in that direction. But on advice 22 of counsel, I think we'll keep that disaster declaration 23 in place. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: For somebody that 25 might be just viewing for the first time, I think we 15 1 need to tell them why. And it could -- 2 JUDGE KELLY: It affects our reimbursements 3 for the expenses that we have incurred because of 4 COVID-19, as well as our grant applications. It's more 5 favorably considered if we have the disaster in place. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 7 JUDGE KELLY: The Proclamation in place. 8 And we got that from our outside counsel, Chuck 9 Kimbrough, just a couple weeks ago. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So it's for the 11 taxpayers. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. Exactly. 13 JUDGE KELLY: For the benefit of the 14 taxpayers. Absolutely. But we're still encouraged that 15 things are getting better and encourage everyone to keep 16 being cautious. Social distancing is good. Hygiene is 17 good. And if you get in a really bad crowd, I'll put my 18 mask back on. But in a room like this where we're all 19 distanced, I feel comfortable. That's where we are. 20 Thank you. 21 So let's go on to Item 1.3, which is 22 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 23 the Local Emergency Planning Committee Membership Update 24 Form. Dub Thomas. 25 MR. THOMAS: Yeah. So this form is one 16 1 we've been updating every year. TDEM sends that out 2 every year and asks for an update. I've gone through it 3 and updated it. And basically, the only real change to 4 this planning committee is changing the manager for KERV 5 and KRVL radio stations from Mr. Belew to Mr. McClure. 6 And there's one -- there's an e-mail change on there for 7 Brian Alexander with KARFA, as well as I think the -- 8 the contact number for the editor at Kerrville Daily 9 Times, who's been changed as well. Those are the only 10 updates. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So we need an action to 12 approve that form? 13 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I move for approval for 15 approving the Emergency Planning Committee Update Form. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 18 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 19 approve the update from the Emergency Planning Committee 20 Membership Form. Any further discussion? If not, then 21 those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 22 Thank you. 23 Item 1.4 consider, discuss and take 24 appropriate action on approving the Interlocal Agreement 25 with Center Point Independent School District regarding 17 1 the Hill Country Youth Event Center as an evacuation 2 center in case of emergency. Mr. Michael Earney. 3 MR. EARNEY: Thank you, Commissioners. 4 Judge Kelly. My name is Michael Earney. I'm the new 5 Chief of Police of Center Point Independent School 6 District. I took over at the end of April after 7 Chief Poole. Chief Jim Poole retired. 8 By going through our Emergency Operations 9 Plan, I noticed that we had -- we have three currently 10 off-site evacuations for temporary housing of our 11 students. At this time, when school was out, we have 12 right at 598 students and about a hundred staff members. 13 So anywhere from 650 to 700 faculty and staff at Center 14 Point. We have the evacuation sites for the elementary 15 school, middle school, and high school and our off-site 16 evacuation was at Pirate Stadium. 17 Well, if we have a true natural disaster or 18 emergency, Pirate Stadium is just not going to be able 19 to house all the students effectively and safely. After 20 talking to Paul Gonzales and meeting with Commissioner 21 Moser on the phone, and with the assistance of Miss 22 Jody, we were able to draft up an Interlocal Agreement, 23 the same thing that I think Kerrville Tivy has and 24 Ingram has, and we ask for that approval to be able to 25 use the Youth Event Center as a place for reunification 18 1 for our students, staff and family members. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this is basically 3 the same type of agreement that we have with KISD and 4 Ingram? 5 MR. EARNEY: Yes, sir. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. I move for 7 approval for the Interlocal Agreement between the County 8 using the AG Barn, the Hill Country Youth Event Center, 9 for Center Point Independent School District. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 12 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 13 approve the Interlocal Agreement with the Center Point 14 Independent School District. Is there any other 15 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 16 five zero. Thank you, Mr. Earney. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Mike. 18 JUDGE KELLY: 1.5 consider, discuss and take 19 appropriate action to partner with the Upper Guadalupe 20 River Authority on a litter cleanup project by allowing 21 the maintenance department to build a box to hold litter 22 bags to be placed at Ingram Dam. Ray Buck. 23 MR. BUCK: Thank you, Judge and 24 Commissioners. I approached Commissioner Harris with 25 this idea. The Nueces River Authority has a very 19 1 successful litter program whereas they have about 20 2 different partners that help fund putting out these 3 litter bags at different sites along the river. And 4 it's primary -- these are onion bags or it's also called 5 seafood bags, whatever you want to call them, but they 6 -- they drain water. And the idea that we're proposing 7 is do a test. I don't know if this is a long-term 8 solution to help us, but I think it can compliment our 9 litter patrols and our pack it in, pack it out program. 10 And that -- so we thought that maybe a better test was 11 in -- should be done. 12 And Commissioner Harris has -- and I talked 13 and we thought that if -- if we could put this -- well, 14 let me back up. I have a whole lot of these that are 15 free. I haven't paid for these. They were given to us. 16 And so what I thought we would do is just run a test at 17 one location during this summer to see how it works. 18 And if you concur, then I would ask that the County help 19 us build a box. And you have a picture of -- do they 20 have that? 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: He's got a picture. 22 MR. BUCK: Okay. 23 (Mr. Evans handing out photographs.) 24 MR. BUCK: It's just a simple two-by-two box 25 that is self-serve. You pick the bag up. And our idea 20 1 was maybe to try it at the dam. Pros and cons, again -- 2 I'm not -- yes, sir. That's a box. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I understand that. 4 Where does the trash go? 5 MR. BUCK: In your -- 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You put it in the bag 7 and then -- 8 MR. BUCK: If it's at the dam, it will be in 9 your trash can. The one you have at the dam site. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: So they -- they put it 11 in the dumpster or a can or take it home with them. One 12 or the other? 13 MR. BUCK: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Because that was one 15 of my first questions to Ray, what the deal was. It's 16 not necessarily stuff it back in here. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, we're going to 18 find a few of them down the river eventually -- 19 MR. BUCK: That's my -- 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But most of them won't 21 be. 22 MR. BUCK: Yeah. Well, we hope not. That's 23 -- that's the issue. That's the issue. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. So the trash 25 cans that are already there will be the receptacle for 21 1 these full bags? 2 MR. BUCK: Yes, sir. There's no -- there's 3 no other trash cans. What we hope is to -- that someone 4 will pick this up. And as you know, the Ingram Dam was 5 in the news recently with all the trash down there. And 6 if -- our hope would be that somebody could grab one of 7 these bags. And we didn't use plastic bags because they 8 blow away so easily. Take one of these and -- just to 9 help pick up, clean up, and be a good citizen. That's 10 the idea. That's -- that was the original concept of 11 this idea on the Nueces River Authority, is that the 12 canoers and kayakers would pick one of these bags up and 13 just clean up as they went down the river. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And it worked -- it 15 worked for them? 16 MR. BUCK: We're approaching a different 17 demographic. Again, those are kayakers and -- and 18 people that have a vested interest in cleaning. We're 19 probably looking at partiers a little bit more. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Give it a try. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: It's a test. It's a 22 test. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, it might help if 24 there was a barrel to put some of them in if you're 25 coming out, instead of taking it home with you. 22 1 MR. BUCK: Well, there's one at the dam. 2 JUDGE KELLY: There is. Right there. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I thought you 4 just said there wasn't. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There's not any 6 additional. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Not additional. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No, not additional. 9 I'm just talking about what's there. You're going to 10 have those so -- I thought you had said something -- 11 MR. BUCK: We've got -- I guess, Harley, we 12 don't see additional trash. We're seeing people picking 13 up what's down there. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. 15 MR. BUCK: And hopefully -- but we clean up 16 that area. UGRA has a contractor that picks up around 17 the dam area. But even if they fill this up and left it 18 down there we could still pick it up. It would be a lot 19 easier. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. I gotcha. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And I talked with 22 Shane and he thought it would be a pretty simple task of 23 building one of those boxes. And -- and basically, you 24 want them to be able to reach in and grab it and not 25 take all of them. And, of course, it's going to be 23 1 see-through so you're not sticking your hand in there 2 and finding a water moccasin in the dark. So -- so -- 3 but Shane said -- thought he could do it. So I would 4 move that we -- we -- get our maintenance department to 5 build a box and let's try this -- this test. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'll second that. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: With the idea of being 8 to place the box near the receptacles that are there 9 or -- 10 MR. BUCK: That was my thought. But -- 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Okay. 12 MR. BUCK: -- I'm -- I'm open. Again, this 13 is brand new. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 15 MR. BUCK: I think it needs to be secured so 16 it doesn't wind up in the lake. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's right. Okay. 18 Good. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 20 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 21 approve -- what do we want to call this? The litter 22 cleanup project and the use of the litter bags at the 23 Ingram Dam by UGRA. Okay. Any other discussion? 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I think that if 25 Shane can figure out a way to patent something that pops 24 1 up just like a Kleenex box that he oughta be allowed to 2 keep that patent. So you just work on that, Shane. 3 MR. EVANS: One of the comments I will make 4 to that box is they've got more of an open wire front 5 and I was going to suggest we put a hardware cloth on it 6 to keep, you know, moccasins out of it. So -- but you 7 can't see in it also but hopefully nothing else will be 8 in there but the bag itself. So -- that's my only 9 recommendation. And tie it down. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other discussion? 11 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 12 Next item on the agenda is 1.6 consider, 13 discuss and take appropriate action to approve the copy 14 agreement with Ricoh for the Crime Victims' Services 15 Department. 16 Ms. Peter left this with us. This is just a 17 routine lease renewal. She started her vacation today 18 so we're doing this on her behalf. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move for approval. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's -- did you second it, 22 Harley? 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yes, sir. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 25 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 25 1 approve the renewal of the lease agreement with Ricoh 2 for the Crime Victims' Services Department. Any other 3 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 4 five zero. 5 1.7 consider, discuss and take appropriate 6 action to approve the copier agreement with Ricoh for 7 the County Court at Law office. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 10 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 11 approve the County Court at Law's copier lease 12 agreement. Any other discussion? Those in favor raise 13 your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 14 1.8 consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 action to approve the lease copier contract between 16 Documation and the District Courts. Mr. Robles. I 17 think this is -- this is chapter three, just a different 18 entity, right? 19 MR. ROBLES: Right. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 22 MRS. GRINSTEAD: This is the only one I was 23 not sure if the County Attorney had a chance to review 24 or not. 25 MRS. STEBBINS: I did. Thank you. 26 1 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So then motion's been 2 made by Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner 3 Harris to renew the lease agreement with Documation for 4 the District Courts. Any further discussion? Those in 5 favor raise your hand. Five zero. 6 1.9 consider, discuss and take appropriate 7 action regarding the HB3834 Cybersecurity Training for 8 the City -- State Department of Information Resources, 9 and authorize the IT Director to complete and submit the 10 report before the June 15th deadline certifying our 11 completion. Mr. Motheral. 12 MR. MOTHERAL: Yes, sir. Commissioners. 13 This is a good thing because everyone has completed it. 14 So all we've got to do is just fill out the form and 15 send it in. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 19 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 20 approve filing the cybersecurity training for State 21 Department of Information Resources report. Any further 22 discussion? 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If I would have known it 24 was the 15th, I would have waited two more weeks to do 25 mine. 27 1 MR. MOTHERAL: Still have to go through the 2 motions. 3 JUDGE KELLY: For those of you that don't 4 know, everybody had to take this. I think I -- I think 5 I spent a Saturday and Sunday getting all these done and 6 -- and it's -- it's prompted so that if you don't get 7 the answers right it tells you. So you need to go back 8 and check it. So it really was -- it really was pretty 9 instructive. Folks found it very helpful. 10 So those in favor raise your hand. 11 Unanimous, five zero. 12 1.10 consider, discuss and take appropriate 13 action for final approval for naming rights for the Expo 14 Hall at the Hill Country Youth Event Center. Jake 15 Williamson. 16 MR. WILLIAMSON: Good morning, Your Honor. 17 Commissioners. We've all been involved in this for a 18 long time now. Going through that process. This is the 19 final draft that we will be asking for approval for to 20 make it official so we can go back to the sponsor for 21 their signatures and move on to the next step in this 22 process. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Jake, I have two -- I 24 should have got with you earlier. And one of them is -- 25 I don't think there's any issue with it. On the first 28 1 page under the grant of advertising rights, it just 2 refers to the rights as set forth on Schedule A. 3 I really would like it to be really clear that the 4 advertising rights are the Exhibit Hall at the Hill 5 Country Youth Event Center. So just add -- I think 6 after -- because it says corporate sponsor for the 7 rights to the Exhibit Hall at the Hill Country Youth 8 Event Center as set forth on Schedule A. 9 MR. WILLIAMSON: Gotcha. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Which is making it 11 really clear that we're only talking about that one 12 building. 13 And the other comment that I have, is on 14 Schedule A, and under C, it goes corporate sponsor will 15 be the exclusive bank of the Hill Country Youth Event 16 Center. And I would -- that language was added to allow 17 stock show and other associations or other organizations 18 to use theirs. 19 But I'm still not sure that I'm willing to 20 give up the -- make it exclusive only to that one bank. 21 So if another bank wants to -- naming rights on the 22 outdoor arena, I don't know why we shouldn't allow that. 23 But those are my two comments. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I wouldn't want to buy 25 it if I was going to have a competitor -- 29 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. And that may be 2 a -- 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- right next to me on 4 the billboard. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I -- I can see both 6 ways. I mean, I'm not -- you know, it's just my comment 7 on it. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. I'm straddling 9 the fence on that deal. It can go either way. I can 10 understand their solution and what have you. Do you 11 have any input on that, Jake? What is your thoughts? 12 MR. WILLIAMSON: From the marketing side, 13 speaking freely, I'm with Commissioner Belew on this. 14 Going in, they're paying for the, you know, the name 15 branding of the facility. If not even from the 16 competitor's standpoint, I'd say it's a respect 17 standpoint to have them be that sole sourced. There's a 18 lot of competition now, and they've stepped forward. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And they have stepped 20 forward. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're the only one 22 that wanted to do it. Everybody -- we -- we talked 23 about this for a number of years. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. I think if they 25 want to be exclusive in that, in their field, that we 30 1 should honor that. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. I don't have a 3 problem with that. But going back to the -- 4 Commissioner Letz's first comment on that first deal, I 5 think it needs to be no gray area as far as that. And I 6 want everybody to know that because this has been 7 brought up, it's still going to be the Hill Country 8 Youth Event Center out there. 9 MR. WILLIAMSON: Correct. Absolutely. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And this is just 11 naming of a building. 12 JUDGE KELLY: So they're not going to call 13 it the -- 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: No. 15 JUDGE KELLY: -- so and so bank Youth Event 16 Center? 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: No. No. 18 JUDGE KELLY: That's a relief. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. 20 JUDGE KELLY: This whole thing's been 21 distasteful to me. I understand the necessity of it, 22 but I really wish we -- I certainly didn't want to see 23 the naming of the Youth Event Center -- 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I think that 25 would have been a deal breaker. 31 1 JUDGE KELLY: I -- I'm just very relieved. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, it's -- it's only 3 the Exhibit Hall, or it could be called the Expo Hall, 4 but it'll be the Happy State Bank Exhibit Hall at the 5 Hill Country Youth Event Center. 6 MR. WILLIAMSON: Just same as if we -- if 7 anybody else in the classroom or the show barn, anything 8 else gets named this. Still the Hill Country Youth 9 Event Center is the common place. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So the money that comes 11 in for this goes to Spectrum? Is that -- 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. The County. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- the way it works? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The County. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Directly? Okay. 16 Good. Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the amount's 18 $112,000.00. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So annually it's 21 $12,500. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Do we have a motion and 24 a second on -- I guess you're -- you're proposing a 25 revision in the agreement? 32 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: With the revision, 2 right. Yes. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Do we want to go ahead 4 and do that with the revision, or do you want to bring 5 it back? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd just as soon get -- 7 be done with it. So I'll make a motion that we approve 8 the agreement with the provisions that I previously 9 stated. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 13 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 14 approve the naming agreement of the Hill Country Youth 15 Event Center and corporate sponsor, as revised -- 16 proposed revision here in court today. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I'll make a 18 comment, Judge, if I can, that this has been the entire 19 time and included in our agreement with Spectrum, that 20 this is the intent out there to help offset the 21 taxpayers' loss to operate that facility. And it 22 doesn't make up the entire amount, but it does help. 23 And so we tried doing this early on and didn't get any 24 takers. And Happy State Bank came and wanted to do it 25 and we've been very public again about making sure the 33 1 -- every other -- one -- any other business around or 2 wherever submit a proposal to us, and they were the only 3 ones that did. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Understood. Any other 5 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 6 five zero. 7 Okay. The next items we have on the agenda 8 -- we can go to the approval agenda. I've got timed 9 items at ten o'clock and I see people here for those 10 timed items. 11 MRS. STEBBINS: Judge, I've got one other 12 item. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: 1.11. 14 MRS. STEBBINS: Item 1.11. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Oh, I'm sorry. 1.11 consider, 16 discuss and take appropriate action to address the 17 possibility of prohibiting or restricting the sale or 18 use of restricted fireworks (skyrockets with sticks or 19 missiles with fins) in any portion of the unincorporated 20 area of Kerr County pursuant to the Local Government 21 Code for the Fourth of July fireworks season. 22 Here we go again. We do this every holiday. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We had a discussion the 24 last time this came up with the County Attorney saying 25 that we can't discriminate against certain types of 34 1 fireworks? 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. We can. We can 3 discriminate. 4 MRS. STEBBINS: You can. And -- 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. I want to make 6 sure she's awake. 7 MRS. STEBBINS: I'm awake. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: She looked like she was 9 really comfortable over there. So the idea is that 10 something I can shoot over my fence to my neighbor and 11 catching his place on fire, that is what we want to 12 prohibit? 13 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. It's skyrockets 15 with sticks and missiles with fins and I think the -- 16 the theory is that the sticks and the fins can catch 17 fire in the flight and land on someone's property and 18 start a fire. The ones that go up and blow up in the 19 sky and disintegrate are okay. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That had actually been 21 challenged by -- by vendors. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: We're good. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I'll make a motion 25 that we -- make a motion to prohibit restricting the 35 1 sale of skyrockets with sticks and missiles with fins. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So your motion is to prohibit 3 skyrockets with sticks and -- 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 5 MRS. STEBBINS: Let me check the 6 Keetch-Byram index. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, we're plenty 8 good right now. I mean -- I mean, we're not even close 9 to being in danger. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'll second. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, that means that we 12 can't do it then. But my part of the County is bone 13 dry. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Mine too. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So, you know, I -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: Let's back up and unpack this 17 a little bit so that everybody understands what we're 18 about to do. First of all, we can prohibit fireworks or 19 we can allow fireworks, right? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We can only prohibit 21 fireworks if it's an emergency. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Under -- I'm just saying under 23 certain circumstances, right? 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And this motion is to not 36 1 prohibit fireworks. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. Well, this 3 motion is to -- to limit fireworks, the two types that 4 you cannot sell, or use, which are the missiles with 5 fins and rockets with sticks. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Which we've been doing 7 for the four years that I've been on the court. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Everything else is fine. 9 Just those two things cannot be sold. 10 MRS. STEBBINS: But -- 11 JUDGE KELLY: But then we have a moisture 12 index that we have to check, that Commissioner Harris is 13 our resident expert on. 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, and that 15 basically -- that dictates whether we can exclude 16 fireworks during the holidays or not. But that's what 17 that does. I think we can still discriminate against 18 rockets and sticks -- 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, if I understand 20 this correctly, if there was a burn ban on Precinct 3, 21 you wouldn't have fireworks in Precinct 3 anyway. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, you would. We 23 can't -- we can't prohibit them. State law does not 24 allow us. Unless we declare a state of emergency, we 25 cannot stop fireworks. And that takes a pretty unique 37 1 situation for us to declare an emergency. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It is within this 3 Court's power, though, to do that. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Within the guidelines. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: To prohibit, yeah. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Just so that we get this 7 cleared up. Miss Stebbins, County Attorney, if you 8 would, kind of refresh our recollection on what we did 9 about a year ago on this issue so that we do not run 10 afoul on the law. 11 MS. STEBBINS: I don't know what you did a 12 year ago, but I'll tell you that if -- upon 13 determination if there's a section that drought 14 conditions exist, and that's a section of the Local 15 Government Code 352.051 and the drought condition is the 16 575 or greater on Keetch-Byram Drought Index, the 17 Commissioners' Court of the County by order may prohibit 18 or restrict the sale or use of restricted fireworks in 19 the unincorporated area of the County. Restricted 20 fireworks means only those items classified under 49 CFR 21 173.100, several sections, and that's skyrockets with 22 sticks and missiles with fins. So without the 575, you 23 can't restrict them. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, how -- how far in 38 1 advance do we have to have -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Before July -- 3 MRS. STEBBINS: You have to do this -- 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The 15th? Is it the 5 15th? 6 MRS. STEBBINS: 4th of July is June 15th, 7 that's right. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, that -- what you 9 just read sounds like to me you can do it by precinct, 10 because that's how we operate in this County. Unlike 11 our neighboring counties, we do it precinct by precinct. 12 There was a word in there, "a", instead of -- 13 MRS. STEBBINS: Usually it's done 14 countywide. I don't remember in the past six years 15 y'all doing it by precinct. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. I don't either. 17 But I don't think that it's prohibited. 18 MRS. STEBBINS: I think that it has to be 19 permitted in order for you to do it. And I don't see 20 here that it says by Precinct. It just says County. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's how we decide on 22 our burn ban. 23 MRS. STEBBINS: Well, I don't think that 24 there -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, we do a countywide 39 1 burn ban, and then we allow it to suspend it. It's a 2 technicality but -- 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It's a technicality but 4 that's how we operate it. Whereas Gillespie County, for 5 example, they do it countywide. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. It's a court 7 order. So -- 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Can it be done precinct 9 by precinct in your opinion, or you don't know? 10 MRS. STEBBINS: I don't think that it 11 permits you to do it that way. I think it's County. 12 (Talking over.) 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll withdraw my motion. 14 I think I made that motion. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well, we don't have a 16 motion on the floor then. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So this is to -- just 18 to ban these, and sell the rest? 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But we're not -- yeah. 20 But -- but we can't. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We -- we can't. 22 JUDGE KELLY: So this -- this dies for lack 23 of a motion and second. So it's just -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that dies because 25 of the drought conditions. 40 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 2 JUDGE KELLY: That's right. And so the 3 fireworks -- 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, no. We have done 5 this before. 6 JUDGE KELLY: I know. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But we had a drought. 8 The drought -- 9 JUDGE KELLY: You brought it to our 10 attention that it was illegal and we decided that about 11 six months or a year ago and that's why I asked the 12 County Attorney to come back and refresh our 13 recollections on what we can't do. Okay. So that was 14 item 1.11. 15 Items 1.12 through 1.15 are timed items at 16 10 o'clock. So we cannot take those before 10 o'clock. 17 We were anticipating taking a break. We might be able 18 to get some of our approval agenda out of the way. So 19 let's keep going. So this is our County Auditor, Tanya 20 Shelton. 21 MS. SHELTON: Invoices for today's approval 22 include $140,378.97 for Kerr County. The airport, 23 $4,698.03. Adult Probation, $9,987.60. District Clerk 24 fees, $1,000.00. And the 198th D.A. forfeiture, 25 $135.00. 41 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move we pay the bills. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 4 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 5 pay the bills as presented. Any discussion? Those in 6 favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 7 Item 2.2 budget amendments. We've got 8 several of those. 9 MR. ROBLES: Yes, sir, we do. We have 10 seven. One for County Court at Law, one for 11 Maintenance, Road and Bridge, HR, and the Sheriff's 12 Chapter 59 seizure. The other two are certifying new 13 revenue, insurance proceeds for Juvenile Probation, and 14 COVID-19 grant certifying that new revenue as well. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And so that the public 16 understands, we are approaching the end of our fiscal 17 year and this is where we go through and start amending 18 to try to balance our budget. So this is just routine. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Except it doesn't -- 20 wasn't that -- the one thing that I would mention or 21 will mention is that we received a grant in the amount 22 of 290 -- is it 291 was the total and then it was split 23 back out? 24 MR. ROBLES: Yes, sir. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. So you said the 42 1 grant related to COVID expenses of $291,797.00, and then 2 that's being redistributed to the appropriate 3 departments. 4 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and that really is 5 newsworthy because that's -- that's -- maybe you can 6 explain the grant. We got a total of 1.4 million? 7 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. It's a -- 8 JUDGE KELLY: This is a federal government 9 grant. 10 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. It's a $1.4 million 11 grant. It's the 55 per capita. It's helped -- they 12 disbursed that out. And so we ended up with about 1.4 13 million. This is 20 percent of it. So without -- with 14 us just going out and saying we want the grant, they -- 15 they sent us $291,000. And so we'll be looking at the 16 plan for the remainder of the 1.4 million. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The 1.4 million, 18 though, is for the County, the City of Ingram, and the 19 City of Kerrville. 20 JUDGE KELLY: No. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that correct? 22 JUDGE KELLY: No. That's our share. 23 MRS. SHELTON: Our portion only is the 1.4 24 million. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good. Thank 43 1 you. 2 JUDGE KELLY: And that's $55.00 per person, 3 per county? 4 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 5 JUDGE KELLY: From the federal government? 6 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 7 JUDGE KELLY: And this is an advance against 8 the grant application? 9 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 10 JUDGE KELLY: A 20 percent advance. And 11 then we'll have to -- we'll have to itemize the expenses 12 and if they qualify for reimbursement, apply that -- 13 MRS. SHELTON: And this -- this will allow 14 us for the expenses that have been happening since, I 15 believe it was March the 1st, we will be able to retro 16 back and include those. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I know that part of 18 this whole process computers were switched around and 19 computers were purchased and new computers are getting 20 purchased. Are those eligible? 21 MRS. SHELTON: The -- my understanding of 22 the computers when talking with the Director of IT, is 23 that those purchases were already going to happen 24 because of the upgrade that we needed in Windows 10, I 25 believe it was. And so -- because they weren't 44 1 purchased specifically for COVID-19, they would not be 2 eligible. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So that's coming out of 4 this past year's budget? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. But it's -- it 6 appears to me that, you know, in some situations the 7 computers -- additional laptops -- things are moved 8 around and purchased because of the COVID issue. 9 MRS. SHELTON: My understanding is they were 10 not purchased for that reason. But if they were, they 11 would definitely be able to be -- to qualify. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and let me add, this 13 could be something on next week's agenda. But this 14 grant from the Federal Government, this advance, 20 15 percent advance that you are seeing here, does have -- 16 does provide that we can hire a consultant to help us 17 know what does qualify for these grants or not and we 18 can spend up to five percent of the grant on a 19 consultant. The City has already retained a consultant 20 and I am actively in the process of trying to find 21 people that we can interview to help us with this. So 22 whatever is properly reimbursable, we're going to get 23 some advice on what we can and cannot be reimbursed. 24 MRS. SHELTON: And those items are changing 25 daily almost. There are some frequently asked questions 45 1 of all the people that are saying what can that money be 2 used for. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. I know a couple 4 of laptops that might fall in that category. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And they -- they might. But 6 at this point we're guessing. And -- and it's changing 7 daily. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, and if somebody 9 didn't have a laptop before and needed to work from home 10 and that was purchased, then that one should qualify. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Well -- 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I have a laptop that's 13 been issued from the County that I can take home 14 anytime. I don't have a desktop, so mine wouldn't 15 qualify. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Well, rather than us try to 17 sit here and dissertate what we think the law should be, 18 let's get a consultant to tell us this is what they're 19 going to reimburse us for. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good idea. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's what the world 22 needs, another consultant. So everybody got ten grand, 23 each office, just without any questions asked. Is that 24 how it was -- 25 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. We did that to cover -- 46 1 you know, there's Plexiglass going up, and there's, I 2 think, a microphone that had to be put with the Court 3 Reporter up there in the district courtroom so that they 4 could hear through the Plexiglass. So there's -- 5 there's a little bit of expenses that are coming in, 6 just to make the opening back up support help work. 7 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Judge, if I can ask. 8 The grant that you were going to apply through, AACOG, 9 did we apply for that one, too? 10 MRS. SHELTON: We have applied -- 11 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: And is it separate than 12 this one? 13 MRS. SHELTON: It is separate from this one, 14 yes. 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: So like the computers 16 that we did purchase because of this for inmates, that's 17 going on the grant going to AACOG and will not be on 18 this one? 19 JUDGE KELLY: Right. 20 MRS. SHELTON: Correct. If you purchased it 21 because of COVID-19. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But it -- 23 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: We did. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- is that supplemental 25 or is it stand alone? 47 1 MRS. SHELTON: An AACOG grant is a 2 stand-alone grant. 3 JUDGE KELLY: But if we go through this 4 crisis, the economic part of this crisis, it is 5 important for us to get straight as to what we can and 6 can't do as far as the grant so we don't run afoul. 7 Because working with the Federal Government can be nasty 8 business. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It is nasty business 10 from a county standpoint. I move we approve the budget 11 amendments. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 14 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 15 approve the budget amendments. Any discussion? Those 16 in favor raise your hand. Five zero, unanimous. 17 Okay. Auditor reports. 18 MS. SHELTON: We had one audit report that 19 was presented to y'all for the Animal Control Services. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I will mention on that 21 one some changes have already been made or some 22 suggestions we're working through with the Director. 23 Part of that, there were some negative comments on that 24 report and part of those were on handling money and -- 25 during events and having volunteers touching money and 48 1 it -- it gets very complicated. But we're working to 2 fix that problem. 3 JUDGE KELLY: And so the -- so the public 4 understands. One of the duties and functions that our 5 County Auditor performs is to go around to our various 6 departments and offices and conduct these audits so that 7 we can keep everybody on track doing it the right way. 8 And so, even though somebody might have had a blemish 9 that we can do this better, this is the way that we get 10 it done today. 11 MRS. SHELTON: And I like the term best 12 practices because that's what we'd like to see also. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. Do we have -- do we need 14 to accept the Auditor's report? 15 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I make a motion we -- go 17 ahead. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 21 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Letz to 22 approve the auditor report as presented. Is there any 23 other discussion? All those in favor raise your hand. 24 Unanimous, five zero. 25 Monthly reports. 49 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. March and April 2 of 2020, fines, judgment, jury fees collected for 3 J.P. 3, Kathy Mitchell. May 2020, fines, judgments, and 4 jury fees collected for J.P. 1 Mitzi French, J.P. 3, 5 Kathy Mitchell. Standard monthly report from Constable 6 Precinct 1 Tommy Rodriguez, Constable Precinct 2 Kyle 7 Schneider, Constable Precinct 4 Gene Huffaker, District 8 Clerk Dawn Lantz, County Treasurer monthly report Tracy 9 Soldan, County Treasurer monthly payroll report Tracy 10 Soldan, County Clerk Jackie J.D. Dowdy, and Kerr County 11 investment report for second quarter ending March 31st, 12 2020, County Treasurer Tracy Soldan. I move for 13 approval. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 16 Commissioner Harris, and seconded by Commissioner Moser 17 to approve the monthly reports as presented. Any other 18 discussion? All in favor raise your hand. Approved, 19 unanimous. Okay. Why don't we take a break? 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Let's do Court Orders. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Oh, I'm sorry. Court Orders. 22 All right. Very good. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We have Court Orders 24 from our June 1st meeting, number 38106 to 38110. They 25 all look in order. I'll make a motion to approve. 50 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 3 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 4 approve the court orders as presented. Is there any 5 further discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 6 Unanimous, five zero. 7 MRS. DOWDY: Judge, may I ask -- I don't 8 think you called 2.3. Did we have any late bills? 9 MRS. SHELTON: There are not any late bills. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. That's the stack of 11 monthly reports that we just approved. It fills a full 12 alligator -- a big alligator clip. 13 Okay, we have timed items at ten o'clock so 14 why don't we take a break and we'll reconvene at ten 15 o'clock sharp. 16 (Recess.) 17 JUDGE KELLY: Court is back in session. 18 Next item on the docket today on the agenda is 1.12, 19 public hearing for the revision of plat for Vistas 20 Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109. 21 So that public meeting is now convened. Is there anyone 22 here that would like to speak with regard to the Vistas 23 Escondidas de Cypress Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109? 24 There being no one, then I will adjourn the 25 meeting, and we will move on to 1.13 consider, discuss 51 1 and take appropriate action for the Court to approve a 2 revision of plat for Vistas Escondidas de Cypress 3 Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109. Charlie Hastings. 4 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. This is going to 5 be a proposed 3.84 acre lot, just one lot. It's 6 currently two lots being platted into one. The public 7 water service is Aqua Texas. They will continue with 8 OSSF. They're out of the floodplain. There's no 9 proposed roads. And again, it's combining Lots 108 and 10 109 into 108R, 3.84 acres. Access to the proposed lot 11 will be from Cypress Estates Parkway and Walnut Parkway, 12 and we just had a public hearing, nobody spoke. 13 County Engineer requests that the Court 14 approve the revision of plat for Vistas Escondidas de 15 Cypress Springs Estate, Lots 108 and 109, Volume 7, Page 16 363 through 364. 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Move for approval. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 20 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 21 approve the revision of plats of Vistas Escondidas de 22 Cypress Springs Estates, Lots 108 and 109. Any 23 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 24 five zero. 25 Item 1.14 consider, discuss, and take 52 1 appropriate action for the Court to waive platting 2 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville for 3 revision of plat for Paso Creek Ranch, Tracts 4 and 5. 4 Charlie Hastings. 5 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. The 6 owners/developers, Frederick and Gloria Louk, have a 7 proposed total acreage of 20 -- 20 acres. And the 8 number of lots would be one. It is on a private well 9 and OSSF. Approximately half of the proposed tract is 10 located in the Kerrville extraterritorial jurisdiction 11 as shown on the plat. The lots would physically be 12 platted through both the City of Kerrville and Kerr 13 County simultaneously; however, in an effort to be more 14 efficient and to save owner dollars, there is a request 15 to only plat this property through Kerrville and for the 16 Court to waive their rights to oversight and approval of 17 the plat. 18 The owner wishes to combine Tracts 4 and 5 19 for 10 acres each into Tract 4R, 20 acres. The tract is 20 partially in the floodplain and must meet floodplain 21 regulations. The Environmental Health Department will 22 remain involved in the review process with the City of 23 Kerrville and will require a signature block on the 24 plat. The County Engineer recommends that the request 25 be granted. 53 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Charlie, I got a 2 question -- or for the County Attorney. If we waive the 3 platting oversight and approval with the City and they 4 don't approve it, can it come back to the County? 5 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, it could. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. I move for 7 approval. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 10 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 11 approve waiving plat oversight and approval to the City 12 of Kerrville for the revision of plat for Paso Creek 13 Ranch, Tracts 4 and 5. Any discussion? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. Not that I'm 15 having trouble with it, but why does the City on this 16 one not waive it to us? This is far more in our 17 jurisdiction than their jurisdiction. There's no 18 sidewalks, there's no roads, or any city roads. This is 19 out, you know, off River Road, between -- pretty close 20 to Brinks Crossing. And I mean, this is -- the City 21 will have nothing to do with this particular tract in 22 the next 20 years. So why do they want to have control 23 over it? 24 MR. HASTINGS: I don't have an answer to 25 that, but the owners are here. If y'all -- 54 1 MR. LOUK: We basically were trying to 2 expedite this, and we talked to the guy that -- and the 3 City Planner who said this is probably the most 4 efficient way to do it, and so -- 5 MR. HASTINGS: I don't think it's not that 6 they're unwilling, but they are -- if they're able to do 7 this in-house, is that right? Does it go before -- so 8 there's no public hearings, so it's going to be a 9 quicker process and they're willing to -- to go through 10 the process quickly. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. That's why -- 12 that's the reason I asked the question if they didn't 13 approve it, can it come back here. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So because it's in the 15 ETJ there's not a public hearing? I don't know that I 16 agree with that interpretation of the subdivision rules 17 and State Law. You're amending a plat in the County, 18 not in the City, not if it's in the ETJ. 19 MR. HASTINGS: I -- I don't have an answer 20 for that. I -- I don't know. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I'm not trying to 22 hold y'all up. 23 MR. HASTINGS: I don't know what the City 24 can and can't do with this. My understanding was that 25 they were able to do this in-house. 55 1 MRS. LOUK: We met with Mr. -- 2 COURT REPORTER: Excuse me, could you please 3 stand so I could see you? 4 MRS. LOUK: Oh, I'm sorry. We met with -- 5 JUDGE KELLY: Gloria Louk. 6 MRS. LOUK: Gloria Louk. We met with Mr. 7 Drew Paxton and he pulled up on the -- on his screen and 8 saw that a good portion of this is in the ETJ. And they 9 would have to review it anyway because it's in the ETJ. 10 And he said he -- they had 30 days to review it and he 11 could handle it in-house, is what he told me. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, we can do the same 13 if we don't oppose -- boy, I -- 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: If part of it's in the 15 County and part's in the ETJ then it sounds like to me 16 it needs both; not either/or. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That and the -- 18 MRS. LOUK: I was told it needed the City. 19 I was told that -- 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The City can waive their 21 authority just like they're asking us to do. And if 22 they waive their authority then it would go through the 23 County where it should go, in my mind, on this one. And 24 the same rule of the 30 days applies to the County and 25 the City. And the question come -- and that's on the 56 1 plat. But once you're an existing subdivision, the 2 State Law requires a public hearing if you're going to 3 modify something. I disagree with that in the State 4 Law, but I don't know how -- how the City can waive a 5 requirement of State Law. But anyway. And y'all are in 6 the middle of this. Is there a time rush from y'all's 7 standpoint? 8 MRS. LOUK: There's a time rush only because 9 we're going to be traveling. We're trying to get things 10 done as quickly as possible. The City told us they 11 could probably have it done by the end of this week, and 12 then waiting for the County would be another two weeks. 13 And now you're saying there's going to be a public 14 hearing. Does that mean that -- 15 MR. HASTINGS: We wouldn't be able to take 16 action again for six weeks from now if we were going to 17 go through our process. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll -- I'll go along 19 with it, but it may not be legal. It may have to come 20 back through the whole process. My interpretation is I 21 don't think we can do this, but -- 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, why is it that it 23 doesn't require both? Can you clear that up? 24 JUDGE KELLY: It does. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It does under current 57 1 rules. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. All right. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the City doesn't 4 have any authority -- 5 JUDGE KELLY: And the County -- they -- we 6 waive so that they can do it, or they could waive and 7 let us do it. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But what the City 9 determines is not binding for the County. 10 JUDGE KELLY: No. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, and so I -- 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So I -- I -- it seems 13 like -- 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's the reason I -- 15 that's the reason I asked if it could come back. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Exactly. So it seems 17 like to me where the dividing line is, that's where our 18 portion is in the -- for the County, and the other side 19 of it too. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'd have to look at our 21 rules again. If it's one that straddles the -- if it's 22 part -- I mean, clearly the City has no authority on the 23 part that's outside the ETJ. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. So we would be 25 required to do something in that event, I would think. 58 1 JUDGE KELLY: Well, if we -- if we enact 2 this -- if we approve this waiver, then we've done it. 3 We have delegated it to the City for them to make the 4 approval process. Isn't that what we've done? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Except the City doesn't 6 have authority outside the ETJ. 7 JUDGE KELLY: I understand. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Which would almost be 9 like saying it was annexed into the ETJ for the entire 10 portion of the property, which it will not be -- 11 JUDGE KELLY: No. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- if there's no such 13 provision. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm really sorry I 15 brought this up. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, we -- 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I don't want to have 18 this problem later. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me say, we tried to 21 make it as easy as possible and go along with this and 22 so we made the motion so -- I think there was a motion 23 made. Was there a second? 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I second it. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So we'll let you 59 1 go with that. If we can -- if it can be done that way, 2 we'll do it. Otherwise, come back and we'll do it 3 through the Court. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other discussion? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, my final comment 6 is the City has changed their planning department on a 7 regular basis in the past couple years. And I don't 8 think they're -- the people may not have a full 9 understanding of our County rules or the agreement we've 10 had with the City. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: My concern is just that 13 you -- that y'all would have to revisit this later. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, we'll find out. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Well, they were -- let the 16 City do this and find out whether or not it's going to 17 work. 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. Well, we're 19 going to vote on it? 20 JUDGE KELLY: Yep. All those in favor raise 21 your hand. Opposed? Abstain? 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Abstain. I can't vote 23 for something I don't think is legal. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Four, zero, one. Okay. 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We'll find out. 60 1 JUDGE KELLY: We'll find out. Wish you the 2 best. 3 MRS. LOUK: We will. Thank you. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Oh, and Mr. Louk, I don't want 5 to hold you in contempt of court for wearing shorts in 6 the courthouse. I just want to have a little fun with 7 you. 8 MR. LOUK: I asked her and she said I could. 9 So -- 10 (Laughter.) 11 JUDGE KELLY: Well, then I -- then I've been 12 overruled. 13 Last item on our agenda today is 1.15 14 consider, discuss and take appropriate action for the 15 Court to approve a final plat for De Leon Estates 16 Section Five. Charlie Hastings. 17 MR. HASTINGS: This subdivision proposal is 18 four residential lots with access off of Madrona Drive. 19 Proposed total acreage is 21 acres, going to have four 20 lots, and the maximum allowed by our subdivision 21 regulations is four residential lots. The smallest lot 22 size is 5.2 acres. We've got to have something greater 23 than five as the minimum size. They're going to be on 24 private wells, OSSF, which is on-site septic facility. 25 And floodplain -- they're out of the floodplain. 61 1 There's no proposed roads. 2 County Engineer requests that the Court 3 approve the final plat for De Leon Estates Section Five. 4 This is Precinct 1. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I move for approval. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 8 Commissioner Belew, and seconded by Commissioner Moser 9 to approve the final plat of De Leon Estates Section 10 Five. Any discussion? Okay. Those in favor raise your 11 hand. Unanimous, five zero. 12 The only other things we have are any 13 information from the Information Agenda. Any status 14 reports from Department Heads? Shane. 15 MR. EVANS: Yes, sir. Good morning, 16 gentlemen. I'd like to update you all on the HR 17 remodel. It's concluded, and they'll be able to start 18 moving in Wednesday, Thursday. The IT department still 19 has to hook up their computer drops. And then we will 20 -- we will move them in as soon as they are done with 21 that. 22 The final inspection for the fire alarm, it 23 passed but there was a technicality with the yellow tag 24 panel. When they did the test, all the lighting strobes 25 throughout the courthouse came on like it was supposed 62 1 to. The Fire Marshal has -- per code when you hit the 2 silence on the panel, the horns go off and the strobes 3 are supposed to stay on. That didn't happen. So that 4 didn't hold up the inspection part of it that passed, 5 because everything did work except for that little 6 technicality. 7 So on the 26th of this month -- I'm sorry, 8 the 27th, we will have our company back out here to 9 rectify that problem and change anything out that needs 10 to be changed out and have our panel back in order. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any questions? Thank 12 you. 13 Any other Department Heads reports? Any 14 Elected Officials reports? Elected Official reports? 15 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Huh? 16 JUDGE KELLY: Do you have a report? 17 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: No. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then Liaison 19 Commissioners reports. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The only thing I'd say 21 is in economic development Mooney is making parts, okay, 22 out there for existing aircraft. I think there's 70,000 23 Mooney aircraft flying. So they're making parts. 24 There are some other things that perhaps in 25 the very near future we'll talk in Executive Session of 63 1 some airport economic development things. So they're 2 all positive. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Good. Pardon? 4 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Do you want to talk about a 5 date for that other workshop? 6 JUDGE KELLY: We have the Volunteer Fire 7 Department workshop set for next Wednesday at 10:00 a.m. 8 at the Youth Event Center. We need a date set for the 9 Veteran Services workshop. Any suggestions? 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Can we try to do it 11 after lunch, the same day? 12 JUDGE KELLY: I think we've got a CIP 13 meeting that day, don't we? 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What is the Veteran 15 Services workshop? 16 JUDGE KELLY: To talk about the veterans 17 issue in the budget. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So it's just a 19 -- it's a budget workshop then. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I think it's broader 21 than that, but we can talk about budget. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, okay, I'm just 23 curious. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we've had -- been 25 notified by several different groups that want to 64 1 address the court about the Veteran Services. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. I thought we 3 were just going to do that during the -- during the 4 budget. But either way, that's fine. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Of the three things that I 6 recommended that were not mandated for the County to do, 7 which were Volunteer Fire Department, Veteran Services, 8 and the 5013C charities. I'm trying to get those 9 handled by workshop before we get into budget workshops. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 11 JUDGE KELLY: But once we get to that, I 12 think we can move it along fairly quickly if we -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. Okay. 14 JUDGE KELLY: -- if we discuss and air 15 whatever the issues are with regard to these issues. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay, that's fine. 17 Still have a workshop on all three of those. 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So Don's idea about 19 doing it on the same day, is that -- is there a 20 conflict? 21 JUDGE KELLY: We have a meeting with the CIP 22 that afternoon. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Can that be -- well, 24 that's not as urgent, is it? You gotta prioritize them. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Those are just dates that they 65 1 picked on the first and third Wednesday of the month for 2 the duration of this -- their assignment. I mean, 3 that's just a routine date for them. If we reschedule 4 them or not -- 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: We could -- I'm 6 leaving -- going out of town on the 18th for the 7 weekend. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So the question was can 9 we do it on the 17th after the Volunteer Fire 10 Department? That sounds good. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Right. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I like the idea of 13 doing it all in one day. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Well, perhaps we could move 15 the Capital Improvement Planning Committee's time to a 16 later time that afternoon, or we could reschedule. 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, Veteran Services 18 could be part of it later that afternoon. I mean -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That would be the 20 easiest time. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: -- that way you don't 22 have to change two. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll probably be gone 24 that -- I'll be in Waco. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Huh? 66 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But that's okay. 2 JUDGE KELLY: The whole week? Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, my schedule gets 4 pretty hectic for the next month so. I may be here, I'm 5 not sure. It depends on what Karen says. Depends who 6 draws the short straw. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So if we're going to do 8 it next week, Monday is the Commissioners' Court 9 meeting, correct, the 15th. And we don't know if we 10 have juvenile that afternoon. Tuesday, the 16th, we 11 have mental health in -- I have mental health in the 12 morning and then we have the rest of the day if you want 13 to do a workshop that day. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Tuesday is not as good 15 for me. 16 JUDGE KELLY: If you're going to do it on 17 Wednesday, the 17th, then we'll have to reschedule the 18 CIP meeting for sometime. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it's probably 20 more important to get the workshops done than the CIP. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 22 JUDGE KELLY: I certainly apologize to the 23 CIP members, but the consent right now appears to be 24 that we will reschedule the CIP committee meeting, and 25 try to schedule the volunteer -- the Veteran Services 67 1 workshop for the 17th. Now -- 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Could we possibly do 3 them at -- start at 8:00 in the morning? The Veteran 4 Services? 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We got Volunteer Fire 6 Departments at 10:00, right? 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Do it at one 8 o'clock. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we're talking about 10 doing Veteran Services workshop on Wednesday, the 17th, 11 at 1:00. And then we'll talk to CIP committee members 12 and if they want to move it back to 3:00 or something 13 like that, we'll just do it at a mutually convenient 14 time. 15 So we're going to prioritize the Veteran 16 Services workshop for Wednesday, June the 17th at 1 p.m. 17 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Will that be done here, or 18 do you want it at the Youth Event Center also? 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Youth Event Center. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Let's say at the Youth Event 21 Center. We'll be set up there and we'll just do it that 22 way. 23 Yes, sir? 24 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: The only thing I would 25 remind you, Judge, on changing the CIP meeting, there's 68 1 some information that I need to know from them as to 2 whether or not we're going to have to make purchases out 3 of this year's budget for some of the improvements that 4 need to be done at the courthouse that I still have, or 5 whether you're going to put that off to the -- 6 JUDGE KELLY: Does this involve courthouse 7 security issues? 8 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Right. 9 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Then can we just do like 10 Commissioner Harris suggested and maybe do three o'clock 11 for the VSO workshop and keep the CIP at 1:00? 12 JUDGE KELLY: That works. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What was that? 14 MRS. GRINSTEAD: Do the Veterans' Service 15 Office workshop at three o'clock. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Because we do have some 18 urgency that we need to make some decisions at the CIP 19 level with regard to courthouse security. And we'll 20 leave -- we're going to now leave the CIP meeting at one 21 o'clock and then we will have the Veteran Services 22 meeting at three o'clock at the Hill Country Youth Event 23 Center. Is that right? 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: That works. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And then Jody will get all of 69 1 this out. And Sheriff, if you could, it would be good 2 for you to plan to attend the CIP meeting that day at 3 one o'clock. We do it jury room number 2 back up here 4 in the corner. 5 SHERIFF HIERHOLZER: Okay. 6 JUDGE KELLY: It should be a short meeting. 7 Oh -- never mind. Well, it just can't be helped. We'll 8 just work on it. I remember what we're going to do now 9 at the CIP. 10 Okay, any other business before the Court -- 11 properly before the court today? Anything in Executive 12 Session? 13 MRS. STEBBINS: No, sir. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then we're adjourned. 15 * * * * * * 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 70 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Court Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify 6 that the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise 7 a true and correct transcription of the proceedings had 8 in the above-entitled Regular Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 13th day of June, A.D. 2020. 10 11 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 12 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/31/2021 13 * * * * * * 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25