1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, May 24, 2021 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge HARLEY BELEW, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Precinct 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Precinct 3 25 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Visitor's Input. 6 4 *** Commissioners' Comments. 9 5 1.1 Discussion and update regarding COVID-19. 15 6 1.2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 action regarding update, facility use and 7 other matters related to the severe winter weather disaster. 8 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 9 action to approve the MOU between Kerr County and FEMA for the IPAWS addition to 10 our CodeRed System. 11 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 24 action to accept a donation in the amount 12 of $725 from the Kerrville Pets Alive to Kerr County Animal Services for the purchase 13 of 100 PetLink Datamars microchips for KPA sponsored chips for owner reclaimed pets 14 and for special microchipping events. 15 1.5 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 29 action to approve and authorize the County 16 Judge to sign a request form for the unclaimed capital credits received from 17 electric cooperatives pursuant to Section 74.602 of the Texas Property Code. 18 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 30 19 action for the Court to set a Public Hearing for June 21, 2021 to discuss the creation of 20 the Kerr County Emergency Services District #3 (ESD #3). 21 1.6 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 44 22 action to hire Information Technology (IT) consultant. 23 1.7 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 56 24 action to reappoint Robert Neuman to the Kerr County 9-1-1 Board of Managers. 25 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.9 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 56 action regarding the Interlocal Agreement 4 between Kerr County and City of Kerrville on the jointly owned Schreiner Airport. 5 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 60 6 action to approve the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Kerr County 7 and Texas Department of Public Safety to obtain driver records. 8 1.11 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 62 9 action to set a public hearing on July 12th, 2021 at 10 a.m. for the Court to 10 consider the installation of "No Parking" signs on FM 1340 at the Wagon Wheel low 11 water crossing over the North Fork of the Guadalupe River. 12 1.12 Public hearing for Revision of Plat for 65 13 Elm Pass Ranch No. 2, Lots 61, 62, 65, 66, 74, 75, Volume 3, Page 100. 14 1.13 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 66 15 action for the Court to approve the Revision of Plat for Elm Pass Ranch No. 2, Lots 61, 16 62, 65, 66, 74, 75, Volume 3, Page 100. 17 1.14 Public hearing for a Revision of Plat for 67 Treasure Hills Ranch, Tracts 17A, 17B, 18B, 18 Volume 5, Page 397. 19 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 68 action for the Court to approve a Revision 20 of Plat for Treasure Hills Ranch, Tract 17A, 17B, 18B, Volume 5, Page 397. 21 1.16 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 68 22 action for the Court to approve the Revision of Plat for Mosty Pecan Grove Subdivision, 23 Lot 1, Volume 7, Page 310. 24 25 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.17 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 70 action for the Court to approve a final 4 plat for Las Brisas, and accept a Letter of Credit for associated construction 5 improvements, Deed #20-07260. 6 1.18 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 72 action for the Court to approve a final 7 plat for River Dance Section Two, Deed #20-05568. 8 1.19 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 74 9 action for the Court to set a public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28, 2021 10 for a Revision of Plat for Packsaddle Acres, Lots 10-17, Volume 3, Page 55. 11 1.20 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 78 12 action for the Court to set a public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28, 2021 for 13 a Revision of Plat for R.H. Ranch Lot 8, Volume 3, Page 84. 14 1.21 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 79 15 action for the Court to set a public hearing on July 12, 2021 at 10 a.m. for 16 the Court to authorize placement of signs reading "Kerr County Property, Authorized 17 Personnel Only," for portions of Sheppard Rees Road. 18 2.1 Pay Bills. 83 19 2.2 Budget Amendments. 83 20 2.4 Auditor Reports. 84 21 2.5 Accept Monthly Reports. 84 22 2.6 Court Orders. 85 23 3.3 Status reports from Liaison Commissioners. 86 24 *** Adjournment. 92 25 5 1 *** Reporter's Certificate. 93 2 * * * * * * 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 6 1 JUDGE KELLY: Court will come to order. It 2 is Monday, May the 24th, 2021. It's 9 o'clock in the 3 morning and the Kerr County Commissioners' Court is now 4 in session. If you would, please rise for the pledge 5 and prayer led by Commissioner Moser. 6 (Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance.) 7 JUDGE KELLY: Please be seated. I don't 8 want to jinx this but it looks like we may have an 9 efficient agenda today. But we always start our 10 meetings with public input. And this is the opportunity 11 for the public to come address the Court. It's input 12 only, we don't give output back. But this is your 13 opportunity to bring things to our attention that you 14 would like for us to be aware of. Is there anyone who 15 would like to address the Court on items that are not on 16 the agenda? If they're on the agenda, we ask that you 17 wait until that agenda item is called. Alan. 18 MR. BRISTOL: I would just like to remind 19 the Court, I know everybody -- 20 JUDGE KELLY: We got -- we got YouTube right 21 there. 22 MR. BRISTOL: Okay. 23 JUDGE KELLY: So people can see you and hear 24 you. 25 MR. BRISTOL: Oh, Gotcha. I would just like 7 1 to take this opportunity to -- 2 JUDGE KELLY: Let me start. This is Alan 3 Bristol, he is with the Texas Association of Counties. 4 He is our -- 5 MR. BRISTOL: I am -- I am the -- 6 JUDGE KELLY: You're the PRO. 7 MR. BRISTOL: -- the public relations 8 officer, Correct. We now have territories. I've got 9 West Texas and the Panhandle. So y'all are in our West 10 Texas Territory for HBS, which is -- 11 JUDGE KELLY: We consider ourselves West 12 Texas so that's good. 13 MR. BRISTOL: Well, you should. You should. 14 But, I just wanted to remind the Court to stay tuned to 15 TAC for ARPA information. We've got Judge Whitley, he's 16 the County Judge of Tarrant County. Tramer Woytek, he's 17 also a County Relations Officer. And most importantly, 18 Nathan Cradduck, who's the Tom Green County Auditor and, 19 in my opinion, one of the best auditors in the state. 20 They are watching all of the webinars that 21 NACO and Treasury are doing. And so anytime there's any 22 new rules, do's and don'ts, they're going to come up 23 with that. I've spoken with your Auditor this morning. 24 I know you've already designated somebody, they've gone 25 into the portal and -- and signed up. And that's 8 1 really -- y'all are right where you should be right now, 2 being your Auditor and I talked about using the lost 3 revenue form. So I figured that out first. Take 4 whatever lost revenue you can replace out of the money, 5 and then figure out other things to use it for, you will 6 have until 2024 to spend the money. And I know -- I'm 7 preaching to the choir with this particular court 8 because I know y'all are very, very conscientious. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Alan, this is important. 10 Because people are listening to you on YouTube as you 11 speak. 12 MR. BRISTOL: Oh good. 13 JUDGE KELLY: So let -- let me go back and 14 pick up some acronyms. You talked about ARPA. American 15 Rescue Plan Act? 16 MR. BRISTOL: Yes. American Rescue Plan 17 Act. 18 JUDGE KELLY: That's the new acronym we use 19 for that. 20 MR. BRISTOL: Correct. 21 JUDGE KELLY: And then you also mentioned 22 NACO. 23 MR. BRISTOL: NACO is National Association 24 of Counties. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Right. 9 1 MR. BRISTOL: They are in constant contact 2 with the U.S. Treasury. So anytime there's new rules 3 that come out they will have a Zoom call and inform 4 everybody of what those new rules are. And then TAC, 5 Texas Association of Counties, will have a webinar. 6 Anytime anything comes up that we think counties need to 7 know that -- that further explain the American Rescue 8 Plan Act. 9 And like most West Texans, I don't 10 necessarily -- I don't -- wouldn't have necessarily 11 voted for this thing myself, but that horse is out of 12 the barn. It is law. I've even had some counties in 13 far West Texas and the Panhandle that wanted us to send 14 the money back. And I -- I would not encourage that. 15 Because if -- if you don't use it, then it's going to 16 wind up in Philadelphia or LA. 17 So you guys have historically done a very 18 good job of planning, and I would encourage you to use 19 it for something that's going to benefit the citizens of 20 Kerr County long into the future. I appreciate the time 21 and I thank you. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you, Alan. Any other 23 public input? 24 Okay. There being none, then what we're 25 going to do at this point is have our Commissioners' 10 1 Comments. And I'm going to start in reverse order today 2 to give you time to catch your breath. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: A little winded over 4 there. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: He's picking on me 6 today. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Apparently so. 8 JUDGE KELLY: In case you can't tell, we're 9 quite collegial in this Court, so -- Precinct 4. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, Precinct 4, a 11 little bit of rain. I got about six-tenths over the 12 weekend altogether I think. I had a fun weekend. I 13 went to San Angelo to watch the Lone Star Conference 14 college baseball playoffs. And it was -- it was a lot 15 of fun. And I will tell you that -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: Did we have any local 17 relevance? 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, we do. We do. 19 Because we had two players on the All-Tournament Team. 20 We had Sheriff Leitha's son, Larry, was on the 21 All-Tournament Team. And Aaron Walters is the MVP of 22 the playoffs. And so that's big. And both of those 23 played together at Center Point together. So you can 24 see the relevance. Unfortunately, they weren't on the 25 same team this weekend. And so the -- the Angelo team 11 1 goes on with Aaron Walters. 2 And speaking of Center Point, Damian Van 3 Winkle, which is Irene Van Winkle's son is -- 4 JUDGE KELLY: Western Kerr? 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, West Kerr 6 County, is the new AD at Center Point. So hats off to 7 everybody from Center Point, I guess, from Precinct 4. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Precinct 3. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Continue on baseball. I 10 didn't realize I had this lead-in, but since we have 11 three Longhorns up here, congratulations to the 12 University of Texas. They won the Big 12 baseball. And 13 there is a relevance to Kerrville because Lance Ford is 14 on that team. 15 And another baseball note, recent graduate, 16 Aca Lacy, who is with the Kansas City Royals, is in 17 High-A right now, this is his first year. But he 18 managed to hit a 101 mile an hour on fast ball last 19 week. Pretty fast. About as hard as anyone can throw 20 it. So anyway, that's all I have. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Precinct 2. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, we've already 23 talked about Precinct 2. No. No, that's -- that's very 24 good. Don and I have talked about this before. 25 Judge a heads up. Everybody's always 12 1 interested in what's happening on the river with 2 concrete production and aggregate and so forth. Ingram 3 Readymix is -- plans on relocating their facility on 4 Sidney Baker to an area -- to ten acres behind Fox Tanks 5 so there's some TCEQ permits on that. So that will be 6 happening. And -- and they plan on making improvements 7 like concreting the road that goes in and out, so that 8 will help on dust and dirt and so forth. 9 A lot of questions from people, comments 10 about fireworks, and why the County cannot eliminate 11 fireworks at certain periods of time. And I've taken 12 some stuff from County Attorney and responded to people 13 and said County doesn't have any authority to do that, 14 except fins with rockets and rockets with whatever. 15 We're very limited in what we can do so -- but they're 16 concerned about animals. Okay. And what fireworks does 17 to animals and creates a lot of disruption for them. 18 And the other thing I'll tell you is, Center 19 Point Village and Verde Creek Ranch are moving forward 20 to come back to the Court with all their requirements to 21 be able to take the next step. So things are happening. 22 That's it. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Precinct 1. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. I've been doing 25 a lot of checking roads. There's been wash out because 13 1 of the rain, there's been lots of potholes after what we 2 had with the freeze and, you know, those -- those cracks 3 in the road expand. We have a lot of issues that the 4 Road & Bridge are dealing with right now. And -- and 5 let your County Commissioner know if you got one because 6 Road & Bridge can't see everything at all times. But 7 I've done a lot of road travel. 8 And second is that I went to the fundraiser, 9 the benefit for Clifton Leda over the weekend at the 10 Hill Country Youth Event Center. It was very well 11 attended and it was wonderful to see so many people in 12 the community, and what I always say is that when we 13 have a problem in Kerr County, we have a party. And so, 14 that's what we did. 15 We had a great time and raised a lot of 16 money and he was there. He was able to be there. 17 Nobody was able to get near him because he's doing his 18 transplant, but it was a good turnout. And Jake 19 Williamson was there to make sure that everything ran 20 well. And there's a lot going on out there at that Hill 21 Country Youth Event Center that is doing a lot of good 22 for the community. So I just feel proud to be part of a 23 community that responds this way when somebody needs 24 their help. That's all. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Well, on a countywide basis, 14 1 I'd like to build off of what Commissioner Moser was 2 talking about. A lot of people think that the County 3 can just prohibit fireworks and we simply can't. 4 They're governed by State Law and we are the lowest 5 enforcement body of State Law. What you hear us talk 6 about are missiles with fins and rockets with sticks 7 that -- sticks with rockets, however it goes. We can 8 regulate that. But other than that, unless the 9 climactic conditions, the weather conditions are such 10 that it's too dry and too dangerous to discharge those 11 fireworks, we can't stop it. 12 And we've gotten a lot of chatter from the 13 public about that and I'm just clarifying that because 14 what Commissioner Moser is telling you is the absolute 15 truth. We are limited in what we can do. 16 And with the recent rains, for Memorial Day 17 there will be fireworks sold. Now by 4th of July, don't 18 be surprised if maybe they're not. I don't know. We'll 19 see. 20 The other thing I'd like to report, and Alan 21 Bristol is here from TAC. Last week TAC put on the 22 probate academy down in Corpus Christi and a number of 23 us went. It was the first time that most of the County 24 Judges have had a chance to gather since COVID and it 25 was really a fun time and a very informative time. It 15 1 was a very good seminar. And Alan was part of the group 2 of us Hill Country Judges that were teasing Mary 3 Cunningham and -- good sense of humor, but it was really 4 a good time. 5 And I know as the County opens up and as the 6 state opens up and the country opens up, everybody's 7 looking forward to either traveling or getting out. And 8 all I want to do is remind people, we still have to be 9 smart about what we're doing. And we didn't wear masks 10 at the conference but we were careful. And nearly 11 always when we sit down to talk to somebody, make sure 12 we know who's vaccinated and who's not. And you know, 13 officially we can't ask people that. But privately you 14 can. So I just encourage people to, as you get out and 15 about and start traveling again, be smart. 16 So with that, let's go ahead and start our 17 agenda. Item -- the first three items are all Dub 18 Thomas so let me just call them at one time so we get 19 him up there and don't let him sit down. 20 The first one is discussion and update 21 regarding COVID-19. 22 The second one is to consider, discuss and 23 take appropriate action regarding the update, facility 24 use and other matter related to the severe winter 25 weather disaster. 16 1 And the third one is to consider, discuss 2 and take appropriate action to approve the MOU between 3 Kerr County and FEMA for the IPAWS addition to our 4 CodeRed System. 5 And we'll get to that one last. But we'll 6 go from COVID to the winter storm to IPAWS. Dub Thomas. 7 MR. THOMAS: Good morning, Judge. Good 8 morning, Commissioners. So for COVID our update for 9 that, you know, we only update the stuff every Monday. 10 The spreadsheet from DSHS doesn't come but once a week. 11 So active account as of last Monday was 47. Recovered 12 was 4,376. The deceased were 88. 13 And kind of give you an idea, some of the 14 updates that I give y'all are from the RMOC, the 15 Regional Medical Operations Center. That number as of 16 this morning was at 2.6 percent, that's the 32 17 percent -- I'm sorry. The GA 32 number for staying -- 18 staying open basically. So that total number for the 27 19 counties that are in Region 8 is 151. So that's 151 20 people that are actually in the hospital that are COVID 21 positive at this point. 22 So I think we're doing pretty good. We're 23 still -- we're still really low on our hospitalizations. 24 I think we were at two the other day. I'm curious to 25 see what it's going to be this week. I'm hoping we can 17 1 get down to zero and stay there for awhile. 2 Vaccinations, we're still doing vaccines. 3 We're -- we will be at the Dietert Center tomorrow. 4 Texas Military Department will be here to do the second 5 doses for the follow-up for the homebound that we've 6 been doing. But so far for vaccinations in Kerr County, 7 we've had allocated 20,100. Total administered have 8 been 32,399. The number of folks that have received at 9 least one dose is 18,573, and we had 15,224 fully 10 vaccinated. So -- and that number changes every 11 24-hours. Anytime anybody gets a vaccination, whoever 12 vaccinates them has to update the State within 24-hours 13 so. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, Dub, if somebody 15 wants to get vaccinated today, what do they do? 16 MR. THOMAS: HEB, Walmart, CVS, Walgreens. 17 You can give them a call and see if they have vaccines. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 19 MR. THOMAS: We're almost to the point of 20 saturation. I mean, you can go to Walmart a couple 21 weeks ago and they were announcing over the loud speaker 22 if you need your COVID vaccine come get in line. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 24 MR. THOMAS: And you walk by there and 25 there's nobody in line so. 18 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So it's probably 2 available. Anybody wants it in the County. 3 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. Good. 5 MR. THOMAS: So we're doing -- like I said, 6 the second vaccine for the homebound again tomorrow. 7 And then on June 1st and June 2nd, I have another Texas 8 Military Department coming in. We'll be back at the 9 First United Methodist Church to do second doses of the 10 Moderna vaccine once more. And that will probably be 11 the end of the mass vaccination clinics, for me anyway. 12 Now Peterson may still be doing another one. So that's 13 basically it for COVID. Any questions? 14 JUDGE KELLY: No. Move on to the winter 15 storm. 16 MR. THOMAS: So winter storm. All right. 17 So as of last week, TDEM and FEMA have moved the 18 deadlines farther back for the PSAT and the ISTAT 19 information. Now the deadline is June 20th. And again, 20 like I said last week, I don't think we're going to find 21 out if we're going to be included in the individual 22 assistance declaration until after June 20th, when 23 they've got all that data in and they can look at it. I 24 guess there's been other counties and municipalities are 25 having a hard time getting all their data together. But 19 1 ours is done. I think we've pretty much -- we've 2 submitted all of ours. And so we're just waiting. But 3 that does give us additional time to keep putting data 4 into those individual assistance surveys. So that's 5 where I'm concentrating my efforts right now. 6 So with the individual assistance surveys, 7 from last week we've gone up three. We had destroyed, 8 we're still showing three, major 178, minor damage 122, 9 affected 58, minimal 206, for a total of 567. I think 10 last week was 564. 11 And kind of give you an idea of what the 12 surrounding counties have sent as far as ISTAT's. 13 Bandera County has done 716 surveys, Gillespie County 14 815, and Kendall County has done 950. So I think -- 15 I'm still getting calls occasionally, at least once or 16 twice a week about folks wanting to -- how do they get 17 assistance, and they're still not completing the survey. 18 So we're going to have them complete the survey as soon 19 as they can -- every time I get a phone call. It's 20 pretty much, Well, have you completed the survey? No, 21 what survey? Give me your e-mail and I'll send it to 22 you. 23 So we're still getting all that information 24 out. Hopefully, right after June 20th we'll -- I'm 25 hoping that we'll hear something about our individual 20 1 assistance surveys. All right. That's it for the 2 winter storm. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 4 MR. THOMAS: All right. Let's move on to 5 the MOU. It's actually MOA, memorandum of agreement. 6 Last week when I was here or week before last when I was 7 here you were given the incorrect document. The 8 document that you were actually given was the 9 application for the memorandum of understanding -- or 10 memorandum of agreement. 11 Now before you, you have the actual 12 memorandum of agreement. The last one the Judge -- 13 there wasn't anyplace for the Judge to sign it and 14 that's when we figured out it was the -- the application 15 for the agreement. So now the actual memorandum of 16 agreement is there and I think the Judge has to sign it 17 on page seven. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Tell the public what 19 IPAWS is. 20 MR. THOMAS: Integrated Public Alert Warning 21 System. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 23 JUDGE KELLY: This is an action item that we 24 need to adopt? 25 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 21 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So what's -- what is 2 different about this from the EAS system? 3 MR. THOMAS: Nothing. It is part of the 4 EAS, that's what I thought. It's incorporated. It's 5 EAS and -- 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What's EAS? 7 MR. THOMAS: -- from what I understood they 8 were controlled by FEMA. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: The Emergency Alert 10 System that you hear on the radio is what we're talking 11 about. 12 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. Yeah. There was one 13 that went off at six o'clock this morning. 14 JUDGE KELLY: It did. I got it. I got it. 15 MR. THOMAS: So -- you got it? Okay. So 16 what this is going to allow us to do is we'll have -- 17 CodeRed will install a link on our CodeRed System where 18 we can access FEMA directly and input our information 19 that we want to put out on those EAS's. And then FEMA 20 will actually send those EAS's out for us. 21 When I get that information, when it's all 22 said and done and put together, I'll bring my laptop in 23 here and I'll show the Court how it works. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Doesn't that already 25 happen through the Sheriff's Department or through your 22 1 department? 2 MR. THOMAS: No, just -- all we've been 3 using is CodeRed System. 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So how would this 5 change the immediacy of information for the general 6 public, if at all? 7 MR. THOMAS: It will allow us to access 8 actual radio stations. Your station uses that EAS 9 system. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 11 MR. THOMAS: So that's how we get that 12 information out. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But that already goes 14 out. Are you -- and the last time we talked about this, 15 it was supposed to be more localized, for just the 16 immediate area. 17 MR. THOMAS: It will be just for Kerr 18 County. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. 20 MR. THOMAS: Not statewide. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Dub? 22 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir? 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: At our last meeting we 24 did this. Is it different this time? 25 MR. THOMAS: Yes. You have a different 23 1 document. Last time what you had was the application 2 their for the memorandum of agreement. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It was the wrong thing. 4 MR. THOMAS: You should have had this one. 5 JUDGE KELLY: I think what Commissioner Letz 6 is saying is I think this Court actually approved 7 entering into the memorandum of agreement. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. The motion that 9 we approved -- 10 JUDGE KELLY: We just didn't have it. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 12 MR. THOMAS: That's correct. And I wanted 13 to make sure that y'all had the document and you 14 understood which document you were agreeing to. 15 JUDGE KELLY: So do we need to enact another 16 court order? We've got one that's already approved. 17 MR. THOMAS: Probably not. I just wanted to 18 make sure that the Court has the correct document. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Now we have the meat 20 of it. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And Commissioner Belew, 22 you voted against it last week. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yes, I did. Because I 24 don't think it's going to change anything. And I still 25 don't. I've worked with these guys. So I know what I'm 24 1 talking about. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well, I just want to 3 make sure that I'm authorized to sign the agreement. 4 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes, sir. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. As of last 6 meeting. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. That's correct. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you very much, 9 Dub. 10 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. Y'all have a great 11 day. 12 JUDGE KELLY: You too. 13 We've got a timed item at 9:30 and I see 14 Charles Holt is here. We'll get to that in just a 15 minute. Let's go ahead and go on to 1.4 consider, 16 discuss and take appropriate action to accept a donation 17 in the amount of $725 from the Kerrville Pets Alive to 18 Kerr County Animal Services for the purchase of 100 19 PetLink Datamars microchips for KPA sponsored chips for 20 owner reclaimed animals and for special microchipping 21 events. Brenda Hughes. 22 MS. HUGHES: Good morning. My name is 23 Brenda Hughes. And I'm with Kerrville Pets Alive and 24 we're located at 414 Clay Street, here in Kerrville. 25 Our mission is simple. We assist Kerr County Animal 25 1 Services in saving lost, neglected and abused Kerr 2 County pets from euthanasia. We were formed in 2019 so 3 I don't have to say we're newly formed anymore. We're 4 actually two years old now. 5 And what we do is we provide education, 6 resources and funding that helps families keep their 7 pets. We also network hard-to-place pets with rescues. 8 We provide funding for spaying, neuter and microchip 9 events. And we help cover medical costs for injured 10 animals. And because we're an all volunteer 11 organization, every dime that we receive goes directly 12 towards our mission of saving the lives of Kerr County 13 pets. And I'm not here to ask for a donation, but I'd 14 like to introduce Shelly Sandy for the next portion of 15 this presentation. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Welcome, Shelly. 17 MS. SANDY: Thank you. I'm Shelly Sandy and 18 I'm Treasurer of Kerrville Pets Alive at 414 Clay 19 Street. For the past several weeks, Kerrville Pets 20 Alive and Kerr County Animal Services have been working 21 together on a trial effort to offer free microchip for 22 impounded pets who are reclaimed by their owner. 23 During. 24 This trial period, the County's five dollar 25 microchip fee was paid by KPA on behalf of an owner who 26 1 opted to microchip their reclaimed pet. Based on 2 feedback from Kerr County Animal Services staff, KPA 3 would like to continue this effort by making a $725 4 restricted donation to KCAS for the purchase of 100 5 Datamars microchips. These microchips will serve as a 6 restricted stock supply at KCAS to offer a free 7 microchip to an owner when their pet is reclaimed. 8 Notably a pet that has already been impounded and proven 9 to be a flight risk. 10 Additionally, these chips will be on hand to 11 be used for KPA and KCAS free microchip events that 12 we're going to open up to the public. And we are trying 13 to plan one now. So timely donation. Just as a side 14 note, a microchipped dog is twice as likely to be 15 returned home and a microchipped cat 20 times more 16 likely to get back to its owner. So we really feel that 17 microchips are a very valuable tool in quickly reuniting 18 pets with their owners, as well as reducing the time of 19 safer impounding animals at KCAS. 20 And on our side of the house, too, we'll 21 also continue to provide the public with educational 22 material on the benefits of microchips, and keeping 23 contact information up to date, which is sometimes a 24 problem, as well as misconceptions about microchips. 25 Many people think they're tracking devices 27 1 that have GPS in them, they have all kinds of personal 2 data in them. When really all the chip has is a number, 3 a unique I.D. number that goes back to a secure database 4 with the microchip company. 5 So we would love to present to the KCAS and 6 we hope that y'all will accept our donation to keep 7 working on getting these pets back home. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Two questions. What do 9 the microchips cost, just out of curiosity, and how are 10 they inserted? Who inserts them? 11 MS. SANDY: Actually KCAS has been inserting 12 them. They do them for -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 14 MS. SANDY: -- when they adopt an animal 15 out. It's mandatory now. They come with one. And when 16 an animal is reclaimed, they offer it to the owner. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 18 MS. SANDY: It's a little -- it's basically 19 a syringe with like a little scissor handle on the end 20 and it just -- boop. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And what does -- what 22 does each microchip cost? 23 MS. SANDY: It's $7.25 now, so they have 24 gone up since I think -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Very good. 28 1 MS. SANDY: -- the initial thing. So we'd 2 like to buy a hundred microchips and start this process. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. Thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move we accept the 5 donation of $725 from Kerrville Pets Alive to spend on 6 microchips. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 9 Commissioner Moser (sic) and seconded by Commissioner 10 Harris, to accept the donation of $725 from Kerrville 11 Pets Alive and Kerrville Animal Services for the 12 purchase of these microchips. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Motion by Letz. 14 JUDGE KELLY: By Letz. What did I say? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Moser. 16 JUDGE KELLY: I got confused on that one. 17 Motion's by Commissioner Letz. I apologize. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: That's to Moser. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Any discussion? Those in 20 favor raise your hand. Unanimous. Thank you, ladies, 21 very much for what you do. 22 MS. HUGHES: Thank you. 23 MS. SANDY: Thank you. Who do I give this 24 to? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks. 29 1 JUDGE KELLY: Hold on, Charles. You've got 2 just a couple minutes. I can't -- I can't call you 3 before the atomic time that says 9:30. 4 MR. HOLT: You're fine, sir. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Next item on the agenda is 6 Item 1.5 consider, discuss and take appropriate action 7 to approve and authorize the County Judge to sign a 8 request form for the unclaimed capital credits received 9 from electric cooperatives pursuant to Section 74.602 of 10 the Texas Property Code. James Robles. 11 MR. ROBLES: Good morning. In front of you 12 is the application to request unclaimed capital credits 13 from the Comptroller's office. This is something we've 14 done for many years and we use this money to offset our 15 portion of the Kerrville Economic Development 16 Corporation. And I'm requesting that you sign the same. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is there any downside 18 to this? 19 MR. ROBLES: No. 20 JUDGE KELLY: It's free money. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 22 MR. ROBLES: No. It's -- it's free money. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 24 MR. ROBLES: I mean, you can only use it for 25 certain things, but these are things we're already doing 30 1 so it makes sense. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 3 JUDGE KELLY: So motion made by Commissioner 4 Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to approve the 5 request form for the unclaimed capital credits from 6 electric coops. Any other discussion? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Do we know how much it 8 is this year? 9 MR. ROBLES: We don't know. It depends on 10 how much is remitted to the State. Our portions the 11 last three years have been anywhere from 12,000 to 12 35,000. 13 JUDGE KELLY: So this is not insubstantial. 14 MR. ROBLES: No. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Good. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: James, is that based on 17 the fiscal year or -- 18 MR. ROBLES: I'm not sure how they do it 19 here. I think it's through July 31st is how the 20 application reads. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. There being no other 22 discussion those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 23 five zero. Thank you. 24 Okay, Charles, I'm going to go ahead and 25 call 1.8 consider, discuss and take appropriate action 31 1 for the Court to set a -- am I doing the right one? To 2 set a public hearing for June 21, 2021 to discuss the 3 creation of the Kerr County Emergency Services 4 District #3. 5 I see Mr. Reeves here, and Charles Holt from 6 the Center Point Volunteer Fire Department. 7 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. This petition is a -- 8 sorry. Kerr County, May the 19th, and Mr. Reeves has 9 the Petition, and hope we have your support on this. It 10 would be a good deal for the fire department. 11 With the lack of funds that we have, this 12 will ensure the longevity of our department. So 13 hopefully everybody gets out and supports the ESD. So 14 if anybody has any questions, my personal cell phone 15 number is (830) 377-2420. Call me if you have any 16 doubts or questions about it. I'd love to talk to you. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Charles or -- or Bob, 18 either one. Are the boundaries defined now? 19 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And where -- where 21 would somebody find the boundaries? 22 MR. HOLT: They will be -- 23 MR. REEVES: I can -- 24 MR. HOLT: Yeah. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Go ahead. 32 1 MR. REEVES: Good morning, Commissioners. 2 Actually, and you'll see Ms. Dowdy is up here as well. 3 This is a unique situation that's actually requiring the 4 efforts of three of our offices. Sheriff's office, 5 County Clerk's office, and my office as an elections 6 administrator. 7 To answer your question, first on the 8 boundaries. By law they will be on file and they 9 already are with Mrs. Dowdy, plus as elections office I 10 have to keep one. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So where will somebody 12 find the boundaries? 13 MR. REEVES: That's what I just said. 14 MS. DOWDY: My office or Bob's office. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But I mean, do they 16 have to go to your office or is it on the website or -- 17 can you put it on the website? 18 MR. REEVES: I guess -- under where we 19 publish for public notices. It will be that -- it will 20 also be in the newspaper as far as a public notice. But 21 I guess -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Because I've had 23 several people ask, what are the boundaries. So it 24 would be -- can we create a map showing where it is? 25 MR. REEVES: We have a map. 33 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Can we put it on -- 2 MR. REEVES: There's a map with the 3 petition. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Can we put it on the 5 website? 6 MR. REEVES: I'll ask IT if we can. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Well, if you 8 provide it, I'm sure -- 9 MR. REEVES: I see IT is nodding their head. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Okay. That 11 would be great. 12 MR. REEVES: Nonetheless, I'll give my part 13 and allow Mrs. Dowdy. On May 19th, the petition was 14 filed by Harry Holt and Michael Earney with Kerr County 15 Clerk Jackie Dowdy to allow for the creation of 16 Emergency Services District. Such District would be 17 known as the Kerr County Emergency Services District 18 No. 3. 19 The petition consisted of 18 pages, 145 20 signatures. 31 of those signatures were declared 21 invalid by my office for the following reasons: 13 were 22 not registered voters and 18 were not landowners within 23 the proposed district. The petition required to have a 24 hundred qualified signatures. The petition is deemed to 25 have enough qualified signatures after our review. 34 1 A portion of the proposed district is also 2 located within the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the 3 City of Kerrville, and the City must give consent for 4 this portion of the territory to be included in the 5 proposed district. The City has 60 days from the date 6 it receives the request to act on the inclusion or 7 exclusion of that portion. 8 The petition was duly filed with Mrs. Dowdy, 9 and I'll let you take over if you need to add to this. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mr. Reeves, a question 11 on the ETJ. Is that based on the one mile ETJ or the -- 12 (Phone ringing.) 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sheriff, put her in 14 jail. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- for the two mile? And 16 if they changed it during this period -- 17 MR. REEVES: The law is not clear on which 18 one, Commissioner. It just says extraterritorial 19 jurisdiction. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So if they give approval 21 it will -- it would cover either one? 22 MR. REEVES: Yes, in my opinion. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. That's all I was 24 wanting to know. 25 MR. REEVES: In my opinion. But I'm not an 35 1 attorney. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So the question is, are 3 there any existing ETJ's within the City limits 4 anywhere? I mean not ETJ, emergency service district? 5 MR. REEVES: Not for the City of Kerrville. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Or anyplace? 7 MR. REEVES: There are -- the City of 8 Ingram. Because the entire City of Ingram is included 9 in that ESD. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But they don't have a 11 competing service. So what I'm getting at is a 12 municipality like Kerrville that has a fire department, 13 would then that at some point be relinquished? Would 14 that -- is that going to get complicated if and when -- 15 MR. REEVES: Yes. That's why we're having 16 to move on this rather rapidly. I don't have a question 17 on what -- what the City will do or announce or what the 18 City will do at this time, Commissioner. If they choose 19 not to include it in the ESD, then only the ones outside 20 the extra territorial jurisdiction would be able to vote 21 on it. 22 We're also trying at this time to get some 23 clarification from Secretary of State's office. It 24 looks like if it passes district wide, but does not pass 25 in the ETJ, it may -- and I stress may -- not be 36 1 included in the tax base. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Because there's 3 probably an overlap between the services that the County 4 provides for fire coverage in some areas, would probably 5 overlap with this ESD. 6 MR. REEVES: That would be a question for 7 Chief Holt, I can't answer that. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Well, I mean 9 that -- this is -- the agenda item is to set a public 10 hearing, so -- 11 MR. REEVES: Yes, sir. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- we don't have to 13 resolve all that today. 14 MR. REEVES: Right. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But those are questions 16 that should come up if -- you know, at the time it's 17 being brought forward to put it on the -- 18 MR. REEVES: That's absolutely -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- ballot. 20 MR. REEVES: -- correct. Right now. The 21 whole reason that this has been placed on the agenda by 22 Mrs. Dowdy and I, was one thing that it's very clear in 23 the statute is that the next regular special meeting 24 after the petition is filed, we have to set a public 25 hearing. 37 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good deal. 2 MR. REEVES: Okay. And that's -- that's 3 pretty -- and within -- in order to get it on the next 4 uniform election date, i.e., November, time is kindly of 5 the essence to move along on this. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Okay. 7 MR. REEVES: I'll let Mrs. Dowdy explain 8 what else we have to do, but I would respectfully 9 request that we hold a public hearing, at least the 10 public hearing on June 21st, which I realize is not a 11 normal date, but because of publication time frames and 12 everything. Mrs. Dowdy. 13 MRS. DOWDY: Just what I provided y'all with 14 the statute regarding filing the petition and notice of 15 hearing. To answer your question, Commissioner Moser, 16 about placing it on the website, there's nothing that 17 tells us to do that, but I don't see why we shouldn't. 18 And we can worry about that -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. It's not for 20 that it's required, it's just a lot of people want to 21 know where the boundaries are. 22 MRS. DOWDY: So if they want to come see -- 23 see it in person, we -- I have it in my office. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So they can come 25 in person or can get it on the website, that would be 38 1 another one. Okay. 2 MRS. DOWDY: Uh-huh. And the -- it's going 3 to be a large ad because the boundaries, I think in 14 4 point font is like 12 pages long. So it's going to be a 5 rather large ad. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Put a map. 7 MRS. DOWDY: So -- well, the map is not, I 8 think, what goes; it's just the boundaries. Is that 9 right? 10 MR. REEVES: The statute does define that 11 you list the boundaries by metes and bounds -- 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 13 MR. REEVES: -- or other description. The 14 metes and bounds of this District is 12 pages long. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. I'm sure that 16 some surveying place here in town would probably be more 17 than happy to take those metes and bounds and make a map 18 on it. The problem -- 19 MR. REEVES: We have -- we have a map, 20 Commissioner. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 22 MR. REEVES: But as far as the public 23 notice -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, I understand. I 25 understand. 39 1 MR. REEVES: -- it is required to list it 2 all. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. I understand. 4 MRS. DOWDY: So at least from what I can 5 gather from the statute, I create the notice and then I 6 give it over to the Sheriff's Department and they 7 publish it and post it on the board. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Well, I move for 9 approval to set a public hearing for ESD #3 for June 10 21st, 2021. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: What time? 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: At exactly ten o'clock. 13 There's not a time on there. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. That's going to be a 16 special meeting then. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: A special meeting. Why 18 don't we change that to 9 o'clock? 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That would be good. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: 9 o'clock, good. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 22 Commissioner Moser. Do I have a second? 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. 24 JUDGE KELLY: And seconded by Commissioner 25 Belew to set a public hearing for June 21, 2021 at 9 40 1 o'clock a.m. to discuss the creation of Kerr County 2 Emergency Services District number three. Any other 3 discussion? 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a comment. County 5 Attorney may review the emergency interlocal agreement 6 with the City. Because I don't believe the City right 7 now covers -- or covers the ETJ. I think it's just the 8 City limits. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, no, that's not 10 true. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. But there's a 12 secondary area. There's a primary and secondary. 13 Anyway, so I think there's -- anyway, just look at that 14 agreement because that will answer the question exactly 15 if there's -- where the conflict may be. 16 MR. HOLT: So the boundary that we've reset 17 is the largest that we cover right now. The ETJ, it 18 runs one mile from the loop, the airport loop right 19 there in Kerrville, right outside the city limits, down 20 to the scrap yard closer to Center Point. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's where the City 22 goes. 23 MR. HOLT: No. That's their ETJ. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's their ETJ? 25 MR. HOLT: The Center Point Volunteer Fire 41 1 Department covers all that. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 3 MR. HOLT: It covers behind the airport with 4 the subdivision in the back off of Johnson Drive, and we 5 cover up to the airport and there's a few spots down 27, 6 past the airport that we do cover. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But I know the 8 subdivision where I live, it's in -- it's not in the 9 City; it's in the ETJ -- or a portion of it is -- 10 MR. HOLT: You're right. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- but it's covered 12 by -- the City is primary. 13 MR. HOLT: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 15 MR. HOLT: But all we did was harden our 16 coverage area that we cover. We didn't overlap any -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 18 MR. HOLT: -- City services that people get. 19 It's just our Fire District that we have already. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good. Well, it 21 will be interesting to see the map. 22 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. 23 JUDGE KELLY: And just to clarify, Charles, 24 what we're talking about here so the public understands 25 is, you're maintaining the status quo. You're going 42 1 to -- your district is going to cover everything that 2 you're covering right now that -- that we've done side 3 by side with the City for years. 4 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And so we don't anticipate 6 much pushback from the City on this because this is 7 exactly what's on the ground right now? 8 MR. HOLT: Right. Correct. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes, it is. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This is about funding? 11 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's what it's about? 13 MR. HOLT: It is. 14 MR. REEVES: And it's only fire service; 15 it's not EMS. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 17 MR. HOLT: Yes. And with the great job that 18 the City of Kerrville does, there's no -- no sense in 19 messing with that. If they ever wanted to do that, they 20 could start another ESD on top of mine for medical 21 stuff, so -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, one other thing I 23 want to say is Charles has spent a lot of personal time 24 on reading this, getting us to where we are today. So 25 thank you, Charles. 43 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'm impressed with the 2 fast turnaround. From the time that -- that we talked 3 about having an ESD until now, it hasn't been much time. 4 MR. HOLT: As soon as we had that 5 conversation, I did everything I could to get -- 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I saw your eyes light 7 up at that meeting that day. I saw the light bulb going 8 off in your head. And I said that guy is going to get 9 an ESD. 10 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. It's just, you know, 11 with the price of everything these days to fight fires 12 and to help our community, it's very expensive. And 13 liability we all know is a lot more these days than it 14 was in, you know, 1980 or 1990. You know. The little 15 things mean a lot. 16 So hopefully we can get this started and get 17 to where we need to be to get everything caught up. And 18 you know, we provide a really good service for our 19 community right now and with more assets for the things 20 we can get, it's just going to get better. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, Charles. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good job, Charles. 23 JUDGE KELLY: We commend your efforts. 24 MR. HOLT: Thank you, sir. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Those in favor raise your 44 1 hand. Unanimous, five zero. Thank you, Charles. 2 MR. HOLT: Thank y'all. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.6 consider, discuss and 4 take appropriate action to hire Information Technology 5 IT consultant. Commissioner Letz. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I put this on the 7 agenda. We've talked about it a little bit before. 8 We're getting ready to hopefully do a bond issue. We've 9 talked a lot -- or a fair amount with the CIP as well 10 because of the need for that department to use the cloud 11 based on the software that they use. And we were just 12 adding servers for a number of reasons, I've talked to 13 Bruce about. 14 I just would like to have a -- someone come 15 in and give us outside guidance as to do we keep adding 16 servers, do we start using the cloud like a large part 17 of the State is using now for storage? I mean, how do 18 we do it? Our phones are horrendous under our current 19 system. That needs to be looked at and whether we need 20 to just go back to Hill Country Coop. 21 Anyway, I just wanted to get the ball -- 22 we've talked about it, I think get the ball moving so we 23 can hire somebody to get this done, certainly before the 24 bond issue comes because it will have an impact on that. 25 And hopefully before the budget gets going too far 45 1 along. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, we hired somebody 3 to come in and take a look at what we had a while back, 4 the Rx people looked at it and they gave us a -- 5 JUDGE KELLY: And they're working with us. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- and we're working 7 with them and they gave us thumbs up, so I don't know 8 what else you're looking to do here. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, they didn't -- 10 they talked about securities; they didn't talk about the 11 cloud ever, they didn't talk about our phone systems. I 12 don't mind using them, I just want to have a full look 13 as to where we need to go in the future because we're 14 not going down a path that most county's are going down. 15 And I want to know why. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, that doesn't make 17 it wrong. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I didn't say it was 19 wrong; I said I want to know why. I know -- I do know 20 that our phones don't work well. And I know that every 21 department that I've talked to has storage issues. 22 Data. They're having to manipulate things and, you 23 know, personally I have a nightmare trying to use my 24 personal -- my County computer at home. Sometimes I log 25 on. It just -- I'm not overly happy with the system we 46 1 have. I think it's largely financial. But we need to 2 look at it. And I don't understand why I can't use my 3 personal computer just like I use the County computer. 4 One works fine. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, not just you, 6 that would be everybody. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. I can't log on a 8 lot of times. It doesn't download. And I can't send 9 e-mail sometimes when I'm at home using the County 10 computer. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, that's 12 probably -- that's probably your service at home. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, it could be. 14 But you're -- you're wanting to get an overview, 15 somebody to analyze our whole system, period, IT-wise. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. I mean, every -- 17 I've talked with departments that we have a lot of 18 issues on this. That they have to put data over here so 19 they can have enough space. You know, I talked to the 20 County Attorney about it recently. And she's nodding 21 her head right now, that there's got to be a better 22 system. And maybe it's not even -- maybe we can't 23 afford it. Maybe we're just going to have to do. I 24 just would like someone from the outside come in and say 25 here's the options. And we did not look at that last 47 1 time; we looked at security wise. And they did a fine 2 job there. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. And everybody 4 has given us the top rating on our security. Part of 5 that ties in with what you're talking about. And going 6 to the cloud puts you at risk the same way as the 7 pipeline that was recently hacked. Right now we're 8 safe. All the County records are safe because they're 9 here. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And we -- go ahead. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: If you take everything 12 that you have on your computer, put it on a thumb drive 13 and put it in your pocket, it's safe. If you load it to 14 the cloud, it's not necessarily safe anymore. So we 15 protect the County records by doing what -- what we've 16 done, and a lot of people -- every department I've heard 17 the same thing, still come and say it's not -- everybody 18 thinks that computers are magic. As soon as I push that 19 button it's supposed to work perfectly and so on and I'm 20 not supposed to have to give it much thought, and I 21 don't want to have to rearrange my files. 22 If you go to your file cabinet and you start 23 looking through your files, there are physical files. 24 You understand that. There's a process. It takes a 25 little while. You have to sort them. It's the same 48 1 thing with a computer. You have files in there that you 2 have to manage. You have to sort. And if you don't do 3 it right, the old saying with computers is garbage in, 4 garbage out. 5 And I think a lot -- I've listened to a lot 6 of people talk about what is happening with IT. And 7 there's almost always an easy explanation for it. 8 As far as the phone system is concerned, 9 it's not an old phone system. In the old days you had 10 two pairs of wires, you pick it up, you talk to the 11 person on the other end of the wire. Now it's a 12 computer, so everything's buffered. Every phone 13 that's -- you pick up this phone, you take it in the 14 next room, it still rings to that phone at that number. 15 It doesn't matter where you take it. That's a computer 16 now. 17 So there's a lot of this stuff that people 18 in this building don't understand and when they -- even 19 when it's explained to them, they're not happy about it, 20 so we have this continued sort of undercurrent of unrest 21 about IT. And I'm here to defend them and say they're 22 doing the best that they have to work with. 23 And I -- we can -- we can have somebody come 24 in and look at what you're talking about. I don't 25 really like the cloud or trust it myself. And if 49 1 everybody thinks it's going to be easier, fine. But 2 then you're going to still have the same issues with 3 storage costs and all the rest of it. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, we don't -- one 5 department right now, a big new department, that has to 6 use the cloud, and they have to use our current system, 7 so we have -- they have two computers. They can't do 8 both. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. I know -- I know 10 which department it is. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But that's not 12 efficient. That's not an efficient way to do business 13 in my mind. The Sheriff's Department -- 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's not all they 15 have to keep separate. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I know. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: All the cash drawers 18 have to be separate, too. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But the -- I'm -- the 20 Sheriff has an incredible amount of data. And we -- 21 every -- you know, for the last number of years we had 22 to buy more servers, more servers to keep -- to hold all 23 this data. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yet we have -- yet we 50 1 have that same data that is going into PDO, much of that 2 data, and being used by defense. So a lot -- I mean, 3 I'd just liked it looked at. And the phones -- our 4 phone system is terrible. And it's not new. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It's because of what it 6 is. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I know it's what 8 it is. But that's what I'm saying. Is there a 9 better -- if we can't afford it, well then that's a 10 decision we have to make. But if there's a better 11 system out there, we need to look at it. We just need 12 to know what's out there. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I -- I don't mind 14 having somebody come in and look at it from a system 15 perspective. But I think we need to have a criteria 16 that says security, efficiency before they come in. 17 Okay. Because right now we're in great shape security 18 wise. We have no -- where is our IT guys? 19 So far we don't have any issues security 20 wise, and I think we're vulnerable to a lot. We have a 21 lot of critical information that other people lose 22 control of and -- and is hacked. So I think if we bring 23 somebody in, they -- they have to understand, you know, 24 what our priorities are and cost and everything. 25 Security has got to be at the top of the list. And 51 1 convenience to the users is on there somewhere. Okay. 2 JUDGE KELLY: And if I may say, I've been 3 working with the head of IT. These are ongoing 4 concerns. One of the things -- and I'm going to get in 5 the helicopter and go up about ten, 15,000 feet so you 6 can you see the big picture. 7 We've acquired these properties up the 8 street on Earl Garrett campus and we have -- and we're 9 going to close on 550 Earl Garrett probably within a 10 couple of weeks. We've had issues as to what to do 11 about Internet over there. We've had issues what to do 12 about telephone. We've had issues about how to 13 interface. 14 A couple weeks ago, I got to walking through 15 with IT talking about what our server needs are going to 16 be from the expanded IT department when we move them at 17 the back of the old tax office. And that's what 18 Commissioner -- I met with Tax Assessor Collector 19 Reeves, I've talked with Judge Harris. 20 We walked -- how are we going to put -- for 21 those that don't know, we have been mandated to build a 22 12-person jury room for the County Court at Law. And so 23 as we walk through this stuff, we have all kinds of 24 questions and issues about what can we do, what should 25 we do. 52 1 And one of the things that we had problems 2 with -- with the public defender's office is, the public 3 defender's office right now, even though they are a 4 department of Kerr County, are running off of the system 5 in Medina County because we're not compatible. And so 6 when I have my largest department in the County housed 7 in Medina County, it causes me concern as to why we 8 can't do it here. 9 I think all Commissioner Letz is talking 10 about, we need to have somebody come in and talk to us 11 about what our options are and how to reconcile these 12 things. We're going to integrate a whole new campus. 13 We've got a west Kerr County Annex that we're going to 14 build. We've got an animal control facility we're 15 trying to build with our bond issue. 16 Part of the capital infrastructure that goes 17 into these buildings and the campus up the street in 18 West Kerr County and the animal control possibly could 19 be part of the bond issue. Because they're capital 20 improvements as far as the infrastructure. 21 So what we're looking at here, at the CIP 22 level, we're asking questions that we don't know the 23 answers to. We understand all this. All we want to do 24 is involve IT more and have some -- some sounding boards 25 to talk to other people about what's on the table. 53 1 How -- how do we work through these technology issues in 2 the 21st century today? Nobody's under attack. I can 3 assure you if they were, I'd be the first one out in 4 front. Our IT Department is doing a great job. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, what you're 6 talking about there with the system in Medina County and 7 one here is very similar to what we have in the tax 8 office, where they have to get on one computer for the 9 State and another computer for us. That's their 10 protocol. It doesn't hurt anything. 11 And right now this County Courthouse is 12 protected against ransom ware. If you're in the cloud, 13 you may not be. So I'm just telling you there are -- 14 JUDGE KELLY: Nobody's trying to -- 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Somebody -- somebody 16 can take a look at it. We can spend money on it, and 17 I -- if it's not much money I'm not against it. But I'm 18 just trying -- what I'm trying to say is that there are 19 reasons why you have these little inconveniences. It's 20 not a big deal for us to have to walk from here to 21 there. It's an inconvenience, but it's for a reason. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But if it's -- 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: There's a reason why. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But if the inconvenience 25 can be solved and keep the security and if it increases 54 1 productivity, it's a whole lot better. I just want to 2 look at other options. I'm not throwing rocks at the IT 3 Department. I'm just saying let's bring in a third 4 party. When we do anything we usually bring in a third 5 party and look at things. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Do we just want to 7 bring somebody in or get some bids or what? 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't know. Yeah, I 9 think that Commissioner Moser had a good point. We need 10 to -- you know, I'm not a computer person. Everybody 11 knows that. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me make -- let me 13 make a suggestion. I agree with your objective, but I 14 think rather than take action to hire information 15 technology consultant, let's -- let's create a scope of 16 work. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: What we want that 19 person to do. And to follow the scope of work would 20 be the consultant would not be a person that's going to 21 provide the system or -- you know, because I can see ABC 22 Company like -- well, I don't want give any names, come 23 in and say yeah, you need to do this and we'll sell you 24 all that. So let's -- let's create a scope of work 25 and -- and then bring it back if we could. 55 1 And I think it's a good idea, look at -- you 2 know, things change so rapidly in this Information 3 Technology arena that it's probably the smart thing to 4 do. But let's decide what we want the consultant to do 5 for us. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Well, I agree with that. 7 I mean, and this -- all this was on here for is just -- 8 I was trying to move a step forward. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I would, you know, 11 ask IT to -- I mean, they're the ones to help develop 12 the scope of work or develop the scope of work in my 13 mind. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Yeah. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So of course -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: And I am talking to the IT 17 Director on a weekly basis. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: He's over there. Yeah. 19 I mean, I think -- you know, they know what needs to be 20 looked at. And they've heard my complaints along the 21 lines. I haven't been shy about that to Bruce. So 22 there doesn't need to be a vote right now, I just think 23 we need to ask IT to prepare a scope of work. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, why don't -- why 25 don't we ask IT and the Liaison Commissioner to do that? 56 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. And bring it 2 back. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Okay. The 4 scope of work. Okay. Good deal. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Let's move on to item 6 1.7 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to 7 reappoint Robert Neuman to the Kerr County 9-1-1 Board 8 of Managers. Commissioner Belew and Commissioner Moser. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, he wants to stay. 10 And so he's done a good job. He's been recommended by 11 the head of 9-1-1, so I move to keep Robert Neuman on 12 board. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 15 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 16 reappoint from Robert Neuman to the Kerr County 9-1-1 17 Board of Managers. Is there any other discussion? 18 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 19 Skip down to item 1.9 consider, discuss and 20 take appropriate action regarding the Interlocal 21 Agreement between Kerr County and the City of Kerrville 22 on the jointly owned Schreiner Airport. I see Mary 23 Rohrer here. Is this for observation or comment? 24 MS. ROHRER: Either or both. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, let's see. We've 57 1 got Commissioner Letz and myself and representatives 2 from the City have been working on the Interlocal 3 Agreement, and Jonathan Letz has been the -- carrying 4 most of the weight on that. And so I think we have a 5 good Interlocal Agreement. I believe everybody has 6 copies of it. 7 I'll say that the Airport Board has been -- 8 and Mary, the Airport Manager, has been involved in the 9 whole process. I think they agree with what we have 10 here. I think all parties agree. 11 But basically what it does is it establishes 12 a process by with which we -- every year one of the 13 members of the Airport Board goes off so that the -- so 14 that we have continuity in that critical functioning 15 organization. 16 We have the capability in there that if 17 somebody leaves early, the appointment -- the person who 18 replaces them is delineated. I'll not get into the 19 weeds on that. Sets a limit on how much the airport 20 board can spend without coming back to City and County. 21 I think it's 75,000 within the budget. Talks about the 22 budget process. So I think it's -- I would move for 23 approval of the Interlocal Agreement as you have in your 24 package. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 58 1 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 2 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Letz to 3 approve the restated Interlocal Agreement between the 4 City of Kerrville and Kerr County for the Joint Airport 5 Board. Is there any discussion about that? Miss 6 Rohrer. I'm sorry. 7 MS. ROHRER: You're welcome to comment on 8 it. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I was just going to make 10 a quick comment that I think Commissioner Moser kind 11 of -- I think -- didn't much probably emphasize the 12 length of time and the amount of detail this went 13 through to get to where it is today. In fact, the 14 newest version came in this morning from City Attorney 15 to County Attorney. And this is due to a slight -- it's 16 a minor point. But it -- the changes were subtle but 17 very, very important that are in here. 18 About the term, about -- it's just about a 19 lot of the different operations out there, keeping it 20 autonomous but yet keeping control from the City and the 21 County from a financial standpoint. It's set up a 22 capital fund, which I've been pushing for. Didn't say 23 how it's going to be funded exactly, but it's so that 24 over time hopefully the City will and County should put 25 money into the capital fund that's set aside over there, 59 1 so they can do some improvements without having -- right 2 now, if it's not in our budget to do an improvement, 3 they can't do it that year. 4 And they can't wait years, you know, and say 5 you know a respective person comes in, they can't just 6 say, oh great idea, we'd love to have you here. We'll 7 talk to you -- come back in a year from now. Which is 8 the way it has to work right now. Because we just don't 9 have the funds. So it's a way to -- 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Will there still be 11 approval? 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The City and County 15 still has to approve everything, it's just that the 16 money is already set aside, that it's for capital 17 improvement. So things like that are really important 18 in the agreement. The term is certainly important. 19 There's some things in the other one -- the 20 old agreement that really just didn't -- weren't 21 necessary anymore. Just cleans up a lot of the things. 22 The Airport Board has spent a lot of time on this, so 23 has the City and County. So I think it's a really good 24 agreement. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Harris I think it's 60 1 important for the public to understand that maintenance 2 and operations is split between the City and County. 3 That hasn't changed or anything, but just so people know 4 what we're talking about. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Better fences make better 6 neighbors. Mary? 7 MISS ROHRER: I just wanted to say thank you 8 to all of our -- you know, to Commissioner Moser and 9 Commissioner Letz for all the work that they did in 10 coordinating a lot of this work with the City. So I 11 appreciate the time and effort that everybody has put 12 together for the airport and thank you very much. 13 And my request would just be to make sure 14 that the Interlocal that we approve would be the May 15 24th version. And I've got copies here if we need. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. No other discussion? 17 Those in favor raise your hand. Five-0. Thank you, 18 Mary. 19 MS. ROHRER: Thank you. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, Mary. 21 MS. ROHRER: Thank you very much. 22 JUDGE KELLY: I'm going to go ahead and do 23 one more agenda item before we take our morning break 24 and then we'll do the 10 o'clock timed items. 25 I'm going to call 1.10 consider, discuss and 61 1 take appropriate action to approve the Memorandum of 2 Understanding between Kerr County and the Texas 3 Department of Public Safety to obtain driver records. 4 Miss Doss. 5 MRS. DOSS: Yes, sir. This is something 6 that we've had in place and basically this is just 7 changing contact information. What this allows is us to 8 run driver's records free of charge. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Free sounds good to me. 10 MRS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move for approval. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 14 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 15 approve the Memorandum of Understanding with the DPS and 16 Kerr County for free driver's license checks. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just quick. Now, this 18 is the District Clerk was previously part of this 19 agreement and it's basically updating files per her 20 request and what needs to be done. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Those in favor raise 22 your hand. Unanimous, five zero. Let's take a five 23 minute break and we'll come back for the 10 o'clock 24 timed items. 25 (Break.) 62 1 JUDGE KELLY: Court will come back to order. 2 We'll move on to our timed items at 10 o'clock. The 3 next item is 1.11 consider, discuss and take appropriate 4 action to set a public hearing on July 12th, 2021 at 10 5 a.m. for the Court to consider the installation of No 6 Parking signs on FM 1340 at the Wagon Wheel low water 7 crossing over the North Fork of the Guadalupe River. 8 Precinct 4. Charlie Hastings. 9 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, 10 Judge. Wagon Wheel crossing is the low water crossing 11 in the vicinity of the 1700 block of FM 1340. It's in 12 Hunt, Texas. See the attached map in your packet. 13 Although FM 1340 is maintained 14 by TxDOT and they have received requests to address the 15 safety of pedestrians using the river at this location 16 because it has become a popular swimming hole as of 17 late. The use of regulatory signs must be authorized 18 and approved by the Kerr County Commissioners' Court. 19 Members of TxDOT, Kerr County 20 Sheriff's Office, Kerr County Engineering Department, 21 Kerr County Road & Bridge Department, and the 22 Commissioner of Precinct 4 have met with the resident 23 owner of 1699 FM 1340, Mr. Clinton Morse, on multiple 24 occasions to evaluate the aforementioned safety 25 concerns, specifically parking on both sides of the road 63 1 in and around the bridge. That's a problem. 2 The conclusion was that the use 3 of "No Parking" signs on either side of the Wagon Wheel 4 low water crossing bridge would enhance pedestrian and 5 vehicle safety if placed as follows: So if you're going 6 northeast bound side of FM 1340 from the bridge 7 northeast to a point approximately 300 feet, you're 8 traveling northeast, that would be on your right-hand 9 side. 10 Now, if you turn around and 11 come back the other direction and go southwest bound, 12 the southwest bound side of FM 1340 from the bridge 13 southwest to a point approximately 275 feet. So in both 14 instances if you're driving northeast bound, it would be 15 on your right. Don't park over there. It's not a good 16 location anyway. And people have parked there, but we 17 all know when we want to get in the river we're trying 18 to park close. If you were to park on your left it's 19 nice and flat and better area. 20 Now, if you're going southwest, 21 again, don't park on your right. It's not a good 22 location. It's in a curve. There are some driveways 23 there, there's some issues, and so the better location 24 would be on your left on that side. 25 The County Engineer requests 64 1 that the Court set a public hearing on July 12th, 2021 2 at 10 a.m. for the Court to consider the installation of 3 "No Parking" signs on FM 1340 at the Wagon Wheel low 4 water crossing over the North Fork of the Guadalupe 5 River. Precinct 4. 6 The Sheriff is here, and so is 7 Marshall Heap from TxDOT if you have any questions. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this is just set a 9 public hearing? 10 MR. HASTINGS: Yes. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 15 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 16 approve a public hearing for the Wagon Wheel low water 17 crossing "No Parking" signs. Discussion? 18 MRS. DOWDY: I have a question, Judge. How 19 many times does this need to be published. Do you know 20 off the top of your head, Charlie? 21 MR. HASTINGS: No, I don't. It's not a 22 public hearing for a Revision of Plat so it doesn't have 23 that publish three times. This would be -- I would 24 defer to Heather on this. I think in the past she said 25 just once is probably all you need, but -- 65 1 MRS. STEBBINS: Yeah. 2 MR. HASTINGS: -- I don't know how many 3 times you want to do it, and I'm not sure which paper 4 you want to do it, but it's for the Hunt area so West 5 Kerr Current maybe. 6 MRS. STEBBINS: We'll just confer. We'll 7 talk later. 8 MRS. DOWDY: Okay. Cool. 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Marshall, do you know 10 offhand? 11 MR. HEAP: No, I don't. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? I don't 13 know what the problem is with a public hearing. Public 14 hearings are good. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yep. 16 JUDGE KELLY: So all those in favor raise 17 your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 18 Item 1.12 public hearing for Revision of 19 Plat for Elm Pass Ranch No. 2, Lots 61, 62, 65, 66, 74 20 and 75. Charlie Hastings. 21 MR. HASTINGS: I just checked the hallway, 22 Judge. I don't see anyone here for the public hearing 23 for this item. 24 JUDGE KELLY: So I convene the public 25 hearing. Is there anyone here that would like to 66 1 address the Court with regards to the Revision of Plat 2 for Elm Pass Ranch Number 2, Lots 61 through -- 61, 62, 3 65, 66, 74 and 75? Anyone like to address the Court? 4 There being no one. Then I'll adjourn the 5 meeting, and let's move on to item 1.3 -- 1.13 consider, 6 discuss and take appropriate action for the Court to 7 approve the Revision of Plat for Elm Pass Ranch No. 2, 8 Lots 61, 62, 65, 66, 74 and 75. Charlie Hastings. 9 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 10 proposal combines and revises six lots totaling 79.18 11 acres into two lots. Lot 65R will be 10.34 acres and 12 have frontage on State Mountain Road. Lot 61R will be 13 68.84 acres and have frontage on State Mountain Road and 14 Elm Pass 2 Road. 15 Portions of State Mountain Road and Francis 16 Drive were abandoned, vacated and discontinued in 2016 17 by order number 35710. There's a particular note on 18 this plat that I want to read into the record so that 19 everybody understands. 20 Note number 11 says, Commissioners' Court 21 order number 35710 pertaining to the cul-de-sacs on 22 Francis Drive and State Mountain Road came to be heard 23 on the 22nd day of August, 2016 with a motion made by 24 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin. 25 The Court unanimously approved by a vote of 4-0-0 to 67 1 approve to abandon, vacate, and discontinue a portion of 2 Francis Drive and a portion of State Mountain Road in 3 Precinct 2, as reflected hereon. 4 If you'll look at your plat -- those don't 5 look like they're on the plat anymore. If you look at 6 the as platted, you'll see that they're there. So 7 that's been properly reflected in the record. 8 That being said, the County Engineer 9 requests the Court approve the Revision of Plat for Elm 10 Pass Ranch Number 2, Lots 61, 62, 65, 66, 74 and 75, 11 Volume 3, Page 100, Precinct 2. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 16 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Letz and 17 Harris, but Letz got there first, I think, by a nose, to 18 approve the Revision of Plat for Elm Pass Ranch road, 19 Lots 61, 62, 65, 66, 74 and 75. Any discussion? Those 20 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 21 Okay. Now we're going to call the public 22 hearing for a Revision of Plat for Treasure Hills Ranch, 23 Tracts 17A, 17B, and 18B. 24 Is there anyone here that would like to 25 appear and address the Court with regard to Treasure 68 1 Hills Ranch? There being no one, the meeting will be 2 adjourned and we'll move on to item Number 1.15. 3 1.15 consider, discuss and take appropriate 4 action for the Court to approve a Revision of Plat for 5 Treasure Hills Ranch, Tract 17A, 17B, and 18B. 6 MR. HASTINGS: This proposal revises three 7 tracts into two tracts. Tract 17A, 7.4 acres, Tract 8 17B, 7.3 acres, and Tract 18B, 6.4 acres, will be 9 revised into Tract 17R, 8.53 acres and 18R, 12.677 10 acres. Access to both tracts will remain on Treasure 11 Hills Road. 12 County Engineer requests the Court approve 13 an Revision of Plat for Treasure Hills Ranch, Tracts 14 17A, 17B, 18B, Volume 5, Page 397, Precinct 1. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I move for approval. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 18 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Letz to 19 approve the Revision of Plat for Treasure Hills Ranch, 20 Tract 17A, 17B and 18B. Any discussion? Those in favor 21 raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 22 This next item is 1.16 consider, discuss and 23 take appropriate action for the Court to approve the 24 Revision of Plat for Mosty Pecan Grove Subdivision, 25 Lot 1. Charlie Hastings. 69 1 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 2 proposal revises Mosty Pecan Grove Subdivision Lot 1, 3 currently 9.28 acres, into two lots with a small water 4 well tract. Lot 1A will be 4.07 acres and have frontage 5 on Highway 27. Lot 2B will be 5.01 acres and have 6 frontage on JJ Lane. The well tract will be 0.2 acres 7 and will be accessed from JJ Lane. 8 There's three notes I would like to read 9 into the record, notes 10, 11 and 12. Note 10 states: 10 Individual water well shall not be permitted on any lot 11 in this subdivision. That's because there is a well 12 tract that's serving the whole subdivision. 13 This development -- this is note 11. This 14 development, at the date of plat revision approval, has 15 14 water service connections and is, therefore, 16 considered a nonpublic community water system. 17 Compliance with public water system specifications and 18 the Kerr County water availability regulations, will be 19 required at such time in the future, when there are 15 20 or more water service connections. The developer has no 21 intentions of doing that, but this note will protect him 22 and the County if he decides to move forward or his 23 successors or heirs decide to move forward. 24 Note number 12. Kerr County Commissioners' 25 Court does not certify that complying with Kerr County 70 1 water availability requirements ensures the developer or 2 prospective lot owner that adequate ground water is 3 available under any subdivision or lot. This is 4 directly out of our water availability requirement that 5 this note goes on this plat. 6 County Engineer requests the Court approve a 7 Revision of Plat for Mosty Pecan Grove Subdivision, 8 Lot 1, Volume 7, Page 310. Precinct 2. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 12 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 13 approve the Revision of Plat for Mosty Pecan Grove 14 Subdivision, Lot 1. Is there any discussion? There 15 being none, will those in favor raise your hand. 16 Unanimous, five zero. 17 Move on to item 1.17 consider, discuss and 18 take appropriate action for the Court to approve a final 19 plat for Las Brisas, and accept a Letter of Credit for 20 associated construction improvements. Charlie Hastings. 21 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 22 proposal for Las Brisas, previously named Windy Ridge, 23 is a private gated subdivision off of Sheppard Rees Road 24 with 14 lots. Access to lots will be from a new private 25 road to be known as Las Brisas Drive. 71 1 The preliminary plat for Windy Ridge 2 Subdivision, which is the same one as this, was approved 3 on March 8, 2021 by Order Number 38612. And I think the 4 issue was the name Windy had been used somewhere else. 5 Construction of the subdivision, the roads 6 and the drainage, etc. is not yet complete; however, 7 it's very close. I think they just have some clean up 8 to do in the drainage ditches, some revegetation and 9 they need to top -- put the top coats, two coats of chip 10 seal on the base. 11 A letter of credit in the amount of $162,500 12 has been issued as a financial guarantee to complete the 13 remaining construction. And that letter of credit 14 should be in your packet. 15 The County Engineer requests that the Court 16 approve the final plat for Las Brisas and accept the 17 Letter of Credit for associated construction 18 improvement, Deed Number 20-07260, Precinct 1. 19 And I'll add that I believe the developer 20 believes in the next three or four weeks he'll probably 21 have everything complete and come back and then we can 22 release that letter of credit at that time. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Move for approval. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 72 1 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Letz to 2 approve the final plat for Las Brisas and accept the 3 Letter of Credit for the associated construction 4 improvements. Any discussion? 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is -- the two developers 6 want to make any comments? 7 (Shaking head no.) 8 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, normally I read into 9 the record the letter of credit number. And I 10 apologize, I -- I skipped that. I'd like to read that 11 into the record if that's okay. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Please. 13 MR. HASTINGS: Date of the letter is -- this 14 one's Guadalupe Bank, date is May 6th, 2021. It's an 15 irrevocable standby letter of credit No. 400620400. The 16 amount is $162,500, and the expiration date is 17 November 6, 2021. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Very good development. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Those in favor raise your 20 hand. Unanimous, five zero. Thanks. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Good job. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.18 consider, discuss 23 and take appropriate action for the Court to approve a 24 final plat for River Dance Section Two, Precinct 4. 25 Charlie Hastings. 73 1 MR. HASTINGS: This proposal creates four 2 residential lots, Lots 1, 2, 3, and 4, and one 3 non-residential lot, Lot 5, fronting Highway 39 and 4 Cardinal Hill Road. All residential lots will be 5 greater than five acres. Additionally, 0.25 acres will 6 be dedicated as right-of-way along Highway 39, and 0.58 7 acres will be dedicated as right-of-way along Cardinal 8 Hill Road. 9 Property access to lots fronting Highway 39 10 will be at specific locations as required by TxDOT. 11 TxDOT does have a signature block on and they have 12 already signed this. Lot 5 will be 0.85 acres and is 13 restricted to non-residential use only. Lot 5 is 14 partially within the floodplain and must meet 15 requirements for development within the floodplain. 16 And as I mentioned to you on May the 10th, 17 2021, just two weeks ago, I told the Court not to worry 18 about the Revision of Plat showing gaps in the 19 surrounding lots. I said we'd be coming forward with a 20 plat that would resolve that and fill in the gaps, and 21 that's what this plat does. 22 With that being said, County Engineer 23 requests the Court approve the final plat of River Dance 24 Ranch Section Two, Deed No. 20-05568. Precinct 4. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 74 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 4 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Letz to 5 approve the final plat for River Dance Section Two. Any 6 discussion? Very well. Those in favor raise your hand. 7 Five zero. 8 Item 1.19 consider, discuss and take 9 appropriate action for the Court to set a public hearing 10 for 10 a.m. on June the 28th, 2021 for a Revision of 11 Plat for Packsaddle Acres, Lots 10 through 17 in 12 Precinct 3. Charlie Hastings. 13 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. This proposal 14 revises eight lots, Lots 10 through 17, into nine lots, 15 dedicates right-of-way along Windmill Road and Green Oak 16 Drive, and it removes right-of-way from Lariat Lane, a 17 road that was never properly constructed. 18 Each lot will be greater than five acres. 19 Lots 15A, 16A, 17A and 17B will have access from FM 20 1341. Lots 10A, 11A, 12A, 13A and 14A will have access 21 from Windmill Road and Green Oak Drive. These lots are 22 located in Kerrville's ETJ and will be platted through 23 both the City of Kerrville and Kerr County. 24 County Engineer requests the Court set a 25 public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28, 2021 for a 75 1 Revision of Plat for Packsaddle Acres, Lots 10 through 2 17, Volume 3, Pages 55, Precinct 3. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 6 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 7 set a public hearing for 10 a.m. on June the 28th, 2021 8 for Revision of Plat for Packsaddle Acres, Lots 10 9 through 17. Any discussion? 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Question. Charlie, you 11 might have said this and maybe I -- I'm not sure. Why 12 is the City not going to relinquish final authority on 13 this one? 14 MR. HASTINGS: That needs to be answered by 15 the City. I -- I'm not an attorney so I can't really 16 explain why. 17 MR. DON VOELKEL: I haven't spoken with him 18 specifically but my brother, who is the County Surveyor, 19 says that it's coming from the City Attorney, Mike 20 Hayes. His opinion is the City can't relinquish rights 21 for anything, even though it's five, six miles out on 22 Cypress Creek Road, they won't relinquish it. 23 And I've had it before the P&G on June 3rd 24 for their approval. So we're having to go to both 25 entities to get their approval. 76 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is a -- this is an 2 example of why we can't have an agreement with the City 3 on handling the ETJ. But the good news is, there is a 4 meeting -- I believe it's June 2nd with the City, to 5 figure out how to resolve these ETJ issues. 6 MR. DON VOELKEL: And it could get worse if 7 the ETJ goes two miles. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I mean, that's -- yeah. 9 That's why the meeting is coming up right now. But 10 anyway, it's an odd one. 11 MR. HASTINGS: I think we'll get it 12 resolved. I think we'll come to some terms. I really 13 do. 14 JUDGE KELLY: This just looks like one that 15 the County ought to oversee and not the City. 16 MR. HASTINGS: Right. Exactly. 17 MR. DON VOELKEL: You're abandoning a road 18 that never really got put in. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 20 MR. DON VOELKEL: It's a public road, but 21 there's no public access and there's no road there. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Don, on the plat -- I 23 know you mentioned earlier, you know, the City wanted to 24 use it or replat it. Can we not put slash Revision of 25 Plat and put both of them on there? 77 1 MR. DON VOELKEL: I'll do it whichever way 2 you want to. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If the City will go 4 along with it, I'd rather have that. 5 MR. DON VOELKEL: I'll find out at the June 6 3rd meeting. It's just coming up. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Exactly. 8 MR. DON VOELKEL: If they're available -- I 9 mean if they're agreeable, I'll put it replat, slash, 10 revision. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. Something like 12 that. Thank you. 13 MR. DON VOELKEL: I'll get with Charlie and 14 make sure he's happy. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 16 MR. HASTINGS: Yeah. We've been sensitive 17 to that. And again, the reason that we -- the Court 18 would not want to relinquish their plat review authority 19 on this is because the right-of-way has been dedicated 20 to us already from a previous plat. So it only makes 21 sense that the Court needs to be involved then if it's 22 going to go away. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. The City can't 24 get rid of something we gave or got. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Right. Gotta go back through 78 1 the same entity that did it originally. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other discussion? 4 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous. To set a 5 public meeting for 10 a.m. on June 28, 2021 for Revision 6 of Plat for Packsaddle Acres, Lots 10 through 17. 7 Next item on the agenda is 1.20 consider, 8 discuss and take appropriate action for the Court to set 9 a public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28, 2021, for a 10 Revision of Plat for R.H. Ranch Lot 8. Precinct 4. 11 Charlie Hastings. 12 MR. HASTINGS: A 10.01 acre tract had been 13 previously improperly divided out of Lot 8. It's a 14 platted lot. This proposal attempts to correct the 15 error. Lot 8A will be 10.01 acres out of the existing 16 Lot 8, which is platted as a 98 acre lot. The remainder 17 of Lot 8, 88 acres, must be platted before it can be 18 developed. 19 This is to set a public hearing. We will be 20 in contact with the remainder of that lot to try to 21 convince them to join the party and get their stuff 22 taken care of now. Don't know how that's going to go. 23 The County Engineer requests the Court set a 24 public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28th, 2021 for a 25 Revision of Plat for R.H. Ranch, part of Lot 8, Volume 79 1 3, Page 84. Precinct 4. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 5 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 6 set a public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 28th, 2021 for 7 a Revision of Plat for R.H. Ranch Lot 8, in Precinct 4. 8 Any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 9 Unanimous, five zero. 10 Okay. And moving on to 1.21 consider, 11 discuss and take appropriate action for the Court to set 12 a public hearing on July 12, 2021 at 10 a.m., for the 13 Court to authorize placement of signs reading "Kerr 14 County Property, Authorized Personnel Only," for 15 portions of Sheppard Rees Road. Precinct 1. Charlie 16 Hastings. 17 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. The 18 portion of Sheppard Rees Road from the State Hospital 19 south to the entrance of the Horizon Subdivision, 20 formerly known as "Roller Coaster Hill", was relocated 21 and reconstructed about 15 years to address overly steep 22 grades, inadequate road widths and other safety issues. 23 It is classified as an arterial and traffic is projected 24 to increase over the next ten years, as the area 25 continues to develop, and beyond those ten years. 80 1 It was reconstructed on an embankment. Both 2 sides of the steepest section have guardrails, thus 3 limiting access to the former road. The shoulder is 4 about four feet wide on each side, and it is striped a 5 double yellow, meaning passing is forbidden, and the 6 speed limit is 45 miles per hour. 7 There are two access points on the west side 8 along this stretch intended and meant only for road and 9 bridge crews or maintenance and material storage 10 purposes. One point of accesses is suitable for an 11 entry only, while the other can be used as an entrance 12 or exit, however, this can only be done with extreme 13 caution by trained Road & Bridge employees driving Road 14 & Bridge equipment. 15 The use of these access points by any 16 untrained motorist is not advised. In fact, I've heard 17 that around the 4th of July there have been folks known 18 to drive down there and park, and I -- it's so 19 dangerous. That -- that speed limit is 45 and if people 20 are doing 45 and you're not trained on how to get out of 21 there, you don't have flaggers and your vehicle is not 22 really tall where you have better sight visibility, you 23 can get hit. And it's -- it's very, very concerning to 24 me. 25 Therefore, the County Engineer requests that 81 1 the Court set a public hearing on July 12th, 2021 at 10 2 a.m. for the Court to authorize the placement of signs 3 reading, "Kerr County Property, Authorized Personnel 4 Only," for portions of Sheppard Rees Road, Precinct 1. 5 We would like to also let you all know, as we have been 6 researching deeds and trying to see is there an issue 7 with any of that property that still fronts the old 8 Sheppard Rees Road there, and there is a pretty good 9 stretch of land there, but technically that's their only 10 access. 11 So my thought is if we get these signs up, 12 and they want to develop and they -- that's their only 13 way to get in and out, that there's going to have to be 14 a lot of engineering involved, but I think these signs 15 allow those people to come to the Court and say, can you 16 authorize us to access too. 17 And if the Court did, it would have to be 18 with -- with the -- with the exception that some major 19 engineering has to happen to make that road safe for 20 vehicles to pull off of and get back onto Sheppard Rees 21 Road in that section. If you drive by and just look out 22 your window, you'll understand very quickly. And I 23 would not pull off and test it. Just know, we -- we -- 24 we're trained, we know what we're doing, and we need 25 signs to keep -- keep the traveling motorists off there. 82 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How many signs, 2 Charlie? 3 MR. HASTINGS: I think we need two. One at 4 each -- 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: One each direction? 6 MR. HASTINGS: -- we kind of have -- there's 7 two gaps in the guardrail, and it would be one at each. 8 One at each. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 12 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 13 set a public hearing for July 12, 2021 at 10 a.m. for 14 the Court to authorize placement of signs reading, "Kerr 15 County Property, Authorized Personnel Only," for 16 portions of Sheppard Rees Road. Any discussion? Very 17 well. Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five 18 zero. 19 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, leading up to that 20 public hearing we will continue to flush this out and 21 give you some really good documents so that at the 22 public hearing everyone that shows up can see and really 23 understand what the issues are. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, sir. 83 1 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. Thank you. 2 Let's move on to the approval agenda. Item 3 2.1 pay the bills. Mrs. Shelton. 4 MRS. SHELTON: Good morning. Invoices for 5 today's consideration amount to $595,740.95. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move we pay the bills 7 as presented by the County Auditor. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 10 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew, to 11 approve the bills as presented. Is there any 12 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 13 five zero. 14 Budget amendments. 15 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. I'm looking around for 16 the first assistant but -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: He just left. 18 JUDGE KELLY: You need to talk to his boss. 19 MRS. SHELTON: How about we have eight 20 budget amendments here for y'all's consideration. The 21 first -- what is that, six there are just basic moving 22 from one line item to another. We are certifying new 23 revenue for the HAVA 2020 grant. And then we're 24 certifying new revenue for the Sheriff's Office, and all 25 the donations here are the ones that y'all approved at 84 1 the last meeting. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move for approval. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 5 Commissioner Letz, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 6 approve the budget amendments as presented. Is there 7 any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 8 Unanimous, five zero. 9 Late bills. 10 MRS. SHELTON: There are not any. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Auditor's reports. 12 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. We recently completed 13 two internal audits for the Justice of the Peace, 14 Precinct 3, and the Kerr County Tax Assessor Collector's 15 Office and we just ask that you accept the report. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 19 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 20 approve the Auditor's reports as presented. Any 21 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 22 five zero. 23 Monthly reports. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. April 2021, 25 monthly reports, District Clerk Dawn Lantz. Fines, 85 1 judgments and jury fees collected. J.P. 4, Bill 2 Ragsdale, Animal Control Services, Director Reagan 3 Givens, County Treasurer, Tracy Soldan, and 4 Environmental Health Director, Ashli Badders. I move 5 for approval. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 8 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 9 approve the monthly reports as presented. Any 10 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 11 five zero. 12 Court orders. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes. We have court 14 orders from our May 10th meeting. Numbers 38697 through 15 38726. 16 Jackie, was 26 given to everyone on the 17 court? 18 MS. DOWDY: Correct. Yes. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. That was the one 20 related to consulting services. They all look to be in 21 order. I make a motion to approve. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 24 Commissioner Letz, and second by Commissioner Harris to 25 approve the court orders as presented. Is there any 86 1 discussion? 2 MS. DOWDY: Can I make a quick comment? On 3 the court orders y'all are about to hopefully approve, 4 38697 through 38725 were from Monday, May 10th, 2021. 5 38726 was -- actually I don't know the date, do you? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: May 17th. I'm sorry. I 7 combined them. They were on two different meetings. 8 MS. DOWDY: Okay. 9 JUDGE KELLY: So with that clarified, any 10 other discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 11 Unanimous, five zero. 12 Information agenda. 13 Status reports from department heads. 14 There being none, let's move on to status 15 reports from elected officials. None. 16 Status reports from liaison commissioners. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Just a reminder of 18 City/County annual meeting with the Airport Board on 19 June 16th. It's a big, important meeting. I call it 20 the fish or cut bait meeting. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The only comment I have 22 is that the -- in June the CIP will be making several 23 recommendations to the Court. The Judge and I are still 24 meeting with that group. And one of the things that 25 that group is looking at, and I think the Court needs to 87 1 be looking at as well, is thinking of people to serve on 2 the -- 3 JUDGE KELLY: Steering committee. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. Steering 5 committee for that. The -- we've asked all members of 6 the CIP to come up with I think five names. So that it 7 would have to be approved by the Court. I'm thinking 8 some others too. You know, I think it would be good for 9 us to think of people as well that would be good to have 10 on that steering committee will be coming up pretty 11 soon. Also be talking about some -- coming up, probably 12 hiring a bond consultant to keep us -- we talked a 13 little bit about that at the last meeting, but keep us 14 on the straight and narrow as to what we can and can't 15 say once the bond issue is called, as to all the 16 verbiage in it and all that, and also to help give us 17 some guidance. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So -- but all that will 20 be coming up in the next couple weeks it looks like. 21 And last week, I met with Jake and Jeff -- 22 can't think of his last name -- but anyway, out of 23 Colorado. We went over the Hill Country Youth Event 24 Center events, the number of -- you know, talked about 25 the Kerr County fair a little bit, which is on hold at 88 1 the moment. So this year we'll not be putting on a 2 fair, so how that might look going forward. 3 Also talked about some other possible events 4 over there. Maybe something like Christmas Village at 5 River Star. A pumpkin patch. You know, something -- 6 you know, things that have been popular out there and 7 successful like the renaissance fair. That's been very 8 popular. Things kind of that the community seems to 9 like to go to those type of events. So try to look at 10 that. If there's a way to -- how to fund that. 11 And then also looking at some -- how they're 12 going to go forward with the liquor license. Evidently 13 it's quite complicated for that facility. Partially 14 because the stock show has as license on part of it. 15 You can only have one entity can have a license on a 16 facility and things of that nature. And at the same 17 time, the State is rewriting the liquor laws or the 18 regulations through the TABC. So that's a little bit 19 more confusion too. But they're working through that 20 process and they're filing the applications so they'll 21 be able to serve liquor. And they're also very 22 sensitive to how to move forward with public impact to 23 the Court. Because like right now, Quinceanera's for 24 example, bring their own beer in and, you know, it's not 25 a real simple thing as to how we -- how they operate 89 1 that and do that license. But all that's working. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Does the Stock Show 3 Association maintain the license for the premises or -- 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They have -- they have 5 the ability -- that may be -- I may have mis-termed 6 that. They've had the ability to bring in liquor and 7 they keep it in their one little room. And I'm not sure 8 if they have a license or not, but it's -- they're 9 allowed to do that. It gets -- but because of that, it 10 all gets complicated. It's just -- it's complicated. 11 And I've talked to people in the Center Point area 12 that -- it's also complicated. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Is the Spectrum going 14 to sort through all of that or -- 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah, they're doing it. 16 They're working on it. Yeah, they've applied for the -- 17 the license, it's just -- they're just working through 18 how it actually all works and how they let other people 19 bring alcohol into the facility and -- or if they can 20 and what all the rules are. So -- it's all working. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You and I have talked 22 about a pumpkin patch before and Hill Country Arts 23 Foundation did one last year in Ingram. And talking to 24 Sara there, she said you have to put in about a year in 25 advance for pumpkins. 90 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. Yeah. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: It takes a little 3 planning. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Well, the only thing I have, 5 I'd circle back to the CIP, which -- you know, we get 6 caught up in acronyms. That's our capital improvement 7 planning committee, which has been a very, very 8 productive committee. They work very, very hard. And 9 Dr. Templeton commented that Commissioner Harris 10 approached him to serve in Precinct 4, there will 11 probably only be three or four meetings. A month. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. I would be -- 13 JUDGE KELLY: And what I would share with 14 the Court is the steering committee that we're trying to 15 put together is -- we're trying to put the finishing 16 touches on the bond issue that we're going to take to 17 the people. We've already purchased some of the 18 structures that will be part of the facilities that we 19 want to improve. But the CIP committee has worked very, 20 very well. I -- I can't tell you how pleased I am with 21 it. 22 And the format for that was that each 23 Commissioner chose one person to serve on that committee 24 and then I chose one representing the County. And they 25 have been faithful to their charge. I will tell you. 91 1 And so, when we were talking about the steering 2 committee, we want the steering committee to equally 3 reflect the diversity of the County. 4 And so we've asked the representative on the 5 CIP from Precinct 4, Precinct 1, be thinking about 6 people that are in your area. Because we're trying to 7 build a consistence of opinion countywide for that. And 8 it's not just them that we need suggestions from, I want 9 to invite you as the commissioners and public, you know, 10 make recommendations to us. We're trying to put 11 together a strong group of civic minded people to try to 12 help us upgrade our facilities for the County, some of 13 which haven't been upgraded in almost a hundred years. 14 And it's remarkable -- for those of you that 15 don't know County government, I invite you to come down 16 and let us show you, we do remarkably well with things 17 that most counties would have raised and built a new 18 courthouse lawn before now. But we've made it work. 19 We've got some good suggestions that we're bringing to 20 the people. We're looking to get people involved to 21 help us figure out the best way to do this. 22 Is there anything else we have before the 23 Court today? I don't believe we have any Executive 24 Session items that I saw. 25 MRS. STEBBINS: No, sir. 92 1 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then we didn't jinx it. 2 We did go through this pretty efficiently, and Kerr 3 County Commissioners' Court is now adjourned. 4 * * * * * * 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 93 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Court Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify 6 that the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise 7 a true and correct transcription of the proceedings had 8 in the above-entitled Regular Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 3rd day of June, A.D. 10 2021. 11 12 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 13 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/30/2023 14 * * * * * * 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25