1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, June 14, 2021 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge HARLEY BELEW, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 TOM MOSER, Commissioner Precinct 2 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 25 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Commissioner's Comments. 7 4 1.1 Discussion and update regarding COVID-19. 11 5 1.2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 11 action regarding update, facility use, and 6 other matters related to the severe winter weather disaster. 7 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 18 8 action on a request to approve one (1) Reserve Deputy Constable position for 9 Precinct 4 Constable's Office. 10 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 23 action to accept the donation in the amount 11 of $625.00 from Kerrville Pets Alive to Kerr County Animal Services for the purchase of a 12 PetLink Xtend Max Universal Stick Microchip Scanner. 13 1.5 Informational update from the Kerrville 26 14 Christmas Lighting Corporation. 15 1.6 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 30 action on a Resolution recognizing Jim 16 Mans for his service on the Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board. 17 1.7 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 33 18 action regarding the Hill Country Amateur Radio Club(HCARC) lease of River Star Event 19 Park office and communication tower site. 20 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 37 action to upgrade the fire panel monitoring 21 system in the courthouse. 22 1.9 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 40 action to approve the renewal of the Thomson 23 Reuters-West Proflex Patron Access Edge for Kerr County Law Library. 24 25 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 41 action on the request from the Mountain 4 Home Volunteer Fire Department for fiscal assistance from Kerr County's Coronavirus 5 Local Fiscal Recovery Fund monies for losses from the pandemic. 6 1.11 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 57 7 action to approve or deny request from local ISD's, led by the Kerr County 4-H 8 AgriLife Extension Office, for use of the Hill Country Youth Event Center Show Barn 9 annually in December to hold their School livestock shows. 10 1.12 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 57 11 action to approve or deny request from Kerr County 4-H on free use of facility, 12 plus expenses incurred, during the approved use of the HCYEC for the Annual School 13 Livestock shows. 14 1.13 Presentation regarding Kerr County 4-H 57 Interpretation. 15 1.14 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 81 16 action to approve a $2,000.00 donation from a citizen for the Sheriff's Special 17 Response Team Fund: 72-370-530. 18 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 81 action to approve a $100.00 donation 19 from a citizen for the Sheriff's Special Response Team Fund: 72-370-530. 20 1.16 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 81 21 action to approve a $500.00 donation from a citizen for the Sheriff's Special 22 Response Team Fund: 72-370-530. 23 1.17 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 81 action to approve a $500.00 donation from 24 the Kerrville Physical Therapy Center, LLC for the Sheriff's Special Response Team 25 Fund: 72-370-530. 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.18 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 82 action to accept the Emergency Services 4 District #1 (ESD #1) compilation report for 10/01/2019 - 09/30/2020. 5 1.19 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 95 6 action to approve the renewal of the TAC HEBP (Texas Association of Counties Health 7 and Employee Benefit Pool) medical and dental plan for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 for 8 employees and retirees. 9 1.20 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 109 action to approve the holiday and payroll 10 schedule for Fiscal Year 2021-2022. 11 1.21 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 110 action to address merit pay for Fiscal 12 Year 2019-2020 budget year. 13 1.22 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 117 action for Commissioners' Court to accept 14 the General Contract for a Small Project with Cypress Roofing to replace ten (10) 15 fiberglass skylights in the Road & Bridge Mechanic Shop. 16 1.23 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 120 17 action for the Commissioners' Court approval to accept the General Contract for a Small 18 Project with Texas Site Services, LLC to sweep and vacuum seven (7) county-maintained 19 roads with concrete curbing. 20 1.24 Public Hearing for a revision of plat for 124 Kerrville Country Estates Section 2, Lot 37, 21 Volume 4, Page 131. 22 1.25 Public hearing for the revision of plat for 125 Estates at Turtle Creek Section Two, Lots 39 23 and 40, Volume 6, Page 241. 24 1.26 Public meeting for the revision of plat for 125 River Dance Ranch, Lot 2, Plat File #20-08922. 25 5 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.27 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 125 action for the Court to approve a revision 4 of plat for River Dance Ranch, Lot 2. 5 1.28 Consider, discuss and appropriate action 126 for the Court to approve a final plat for 6 Lajitas Subdivision, Volume 1175, Page 453. 7 1.29 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 127 action for the Court to conditionally 8 approve a preliminary plat for Shadow Bluff in Hunt, Texas. 9 1.30 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 129 10 action for the Court to authorize Commissioner Moser and Commissioner Letz 11 to authorize and approve road closures for their respective precincts for the East Kerr 12 County/Center Point Wastewater Project, Phases 2 and 3. 13 1.31 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 130 14 action to authorize the County Engineer to prepare plans and specifications for the 15 reconstruction of 2.6 miles of Ranchero Road. Said road damaged in the Winter 16 Storm Uri (DR-4586-TX), and take steps to fund same. 17 1.32 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 137 18 action to update the Budget Calendar for Fiscal Year 2021-2022. 19 1.33 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 140 20 action to authorize the County Judge to sign the addendum to Exhibit A for Arbitrage 21 Rebate Services with BLX Group, LLC, Series 2018 and 2019 Certificates of Obligation. 22 23 24 25 6 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.34 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 141 action to address the possibility of 4 prohibiting or restricting the sale or use of restricted fireworks, i.e. "skyrockets 5 with sticks" and "missiles with fins," in any portion of the unincorporated area of Kerr 6 County pursuant to Local Government Code 352.051 for the Fourth of July fireworks 7 season. 8 1.35 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 147 action to set a public hearing on July 12, 9 2021 at 9:30 a.m. to be held in the Commissioners' Courtroom, 700 Main St., 10 Kerrville, Texas for the purpose of presenting the County Clerk's Annual Record 11 Archival Plan in accordance with Local Government Code 118.025(g). 12 2.1 Pay Bills. 148 13 2.2 Budget Amendments. 148 14 2.3 Late Bills. 150 15 2.4 Auditor Reports. 150 16 2.5 Accept Monthly Reports. 151 17 2.6 Court Orders. 152 18 3.1 Status reports from Department Heads. 152 19 3.3 Status reports from Liaison Commissioners. 155 20 *** Adjournment. 160 21 *** Reporter's Certificate. 161 22 * * * * * * 23 24 25 7 1 JUDGE KELLY: The Kerr County Commissioners' 2 Court is now in session. It is Monday, June the 14th at 3 9 o'clock in the morning. At this time if you would, 4 please stand for the prayer and the pledge to be led by 5 Commissioner Harris. 6 (Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance.) 7 JUDGE KELLY: Please be seated. We've been 8 speculating before we started. It looks like we have a 9 long agenda, we have a lot of people, but we think we 10 don't have many controversial issues so we're hoping 11 we'll move a little bit quicker today. 12 The first part of our meeting always starts 13 with public input. And remind everyone that if you 14 would like to address the Court, we are here to receive 15 your input. It is not output. So that means that we 16 listen, we don't respond. But we're ready for you to 17 bring matters to our attention that you think are 18 important. Is there anyone here who would like to 19 address the Court in offering input? If you want to 20 talk about something that's on the agenda, we ask that 21 you wait until that agenda item is called. 22 Very well. Then we will go to 23 Commissioners' Comments. And we have our recuperating 24 Commissioner 1. You look good today. 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Thank you. Well, let's 8 1 see. I visited all the precincts this weekend. Trying 2 to spend money in all of them or do something in all of 3 them. I was at a garage sale, multi-family garage sale, 4 Precinct 1. I immediately took my proceeds and went to 5 Precinct 3 and spent it. And then, I ended up in 6 Precinct 4 at the Cowboy Camp Meeting at Precinct 2 late 7 yesterday evening to pick up a car seat a lady was 8 giving away. Because we got 16 grandkids, we always can 9 use an extra car seat. So that's the -- I try to make 10 the rounds in Kerr County. 11 Once I got a complaint from Precinct 4 and 12 Precinct 2 called to me, which I'm passing along as soon 13 as this meeting's over. 14 (Laughter.) 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I'm glad I'm not the 16 only one getting calls from other precincts. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's all I got, 18 folks. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I stayed home -- 20 no. In Precinct 2 there's -- as we recall there's the 21 Archeological Society that is meeting this week. We had 22 350 people here camped out at -- at Flat Rock Park and 23 River Star Park. And they've got camps and they're 24 digging and they're doing fantastic work and big time 25 being out -- they may come back next year. 9 1 They said this has been a fantastic place 2 for them to be. There was some concern on their part, 3 just from a vision standpoint. And that is, next to 4 River Star Park there's some excavating going on there. 5 It was an old building that had burned, so it's been 6 torn down and people are in there with a Bobcat and 7 they're picking up dirt and screening it. That is not 8 part of the archaeological site. They didn't want 9 people to think that that's the way they do their work. 10 It is not. So if -- if anybody looks at that and is 11 concerned, saying these archaeologists don't know what 12 the hell they're doing, it's not the case. 13 The other thing is, remind everybody -- or 14 remind the Court, we've got the meeting next Monday with 15 the Ergon production operator consultant and a workshop 16 here, which is going to be very informative. I've got 17 the agenda that I'll pass out today. 18 We're in the category of aggregate 19 production and use, Center Point, Ingram Readymix is -- 20 plans on moving their facility on Sidney Baker out to -- 21 across from the airport on Highway 27 behind Fox Tank, 22 so that's in work. TCEQ applications have been 23 submitted for that -- that operation for air quality. 24 And there's a lot of interest in 25 developments in Precinct 2. Center Point Village is 10 1 getting a lot of pro and con interest both, so that will 2 come forward to the Court when the developer's ready to 3 proceed. So that's it. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's the reason I 6 haven't been traveling around to other precincts. 7 JUDGE KELLY: And Commissioner Letz has an 8 excused absence today so we'll go to Commissioner in 9 Precinct 4. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I -- I think all 11 of y'all probably saw the flags around the courthouse 12 today. It's National Flag Day. And so fly your flags 13 today with pride. Each and every day. So I visited 14 with a gentleman this morning that was putting them out, 15 and he said it was his honor to do that. He looks 16 forward to it. So that's about all I have. 17 JUDGE KELLY: On a county-wide basis we 18 had -- we lost a very important person in Precinct 4 a 19 couple weeks ago. Elizabeth Hughes. A great loss to 20 the County and a great personal loss. A wonderful 21 woman. I just wanted to share that with everybody and 22 let them know we've lost a great one. 23 So with that, we'll move on to our 24 consideration agenda. And the first two items have been 25 pretty much routine for months now. Dub Thomas, our 11 1 Emergency Management Coordinator. I'm going to call 2 both agenda items at the same time so you can just lead 3 from one to the other so we can get this out of the way. 4 I doubt that you'll be on the agenda for the next 5 regular meeting, so I think at this point we've heard 6 about all we're going to hear. 7 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. Good morning, Judge. 8 Good morning, Commissioners. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Let me call it. 1.1 is the 10 discussion and update regarding COVID-19. And 1.2 is to 11 consider, discuss and take appropriate action regarding 12 update, facility use, and other matters related to the 13 severe winter weather disaster. Dub Thomas. 14 MR. THOMAS: All right, Judge. Good 15 morning. Good morning, Commissioners. As far as our 16 COVID numbers go, you know, I always get information 17 from DSHS on Monday now from the spreadsheet. That's 18 what I've been using to verify positives and active -- 19 actives and recovery. 20 As of last Monday, June the 9th, we had 23 21 actives, 4,448 recovered, and we had 89 deaths. On 22 Friday -- Peterson Regional does notify -- continually 23 notifies me of new cases that have come through them as 24 well as their hospitalizations. And on Friday they had 25 seven people hospitalized. So we've kind of had a 12 1 little bump on the hospitalized. That's been hanging 2 around one or two or three and now we're up to seven. 3 So hopefully once I get those numbers today we'll see if 4 they've gone down a little bit. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And that -- that's kind of 6 post holiday and opening of the summer season? 7 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. I believe so. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 9 MR. THOMAS: Some information that I usually 10 give y'all about the RMOC, the Regional Medical 11 Operations Center, that's provided by Department of 12 State Health Services, their hospitalization rate for 13 the 28 counties. In our DSHS Region 8 is at 2.3 14 percent. So that's still pretty flatlined and that 15 represents 148 people hospitalized in 28 counties total. 16 So I think we're -- I think we're still doing really 17 well. And we're well below the 15 percent threshold for 18 the shutdown we had several months ago. 19 Now, as far as vaccinations go, allocated 20 number of vaccinations that have been allocated to Kerr 21 County remains at 20,100. Total administrated -- 22 administered doses is 34,872 and 19,794 people have 23 received at least one dose, 16,700 are fully vaccinated. 24 Just as far as vaccination clinics go, there will be a 25 Code Red on this today at 11 o'clock so y'all's phones 13 1 are all going to ring. But the Department of State 2 Health Services and Adult Community Center have teamed 3 up for a vaccination clinic for 12 and up tomorrow, 4 June 15th, from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. It will be at 5 the Barnett Chapel, United Methodist Church, located at 6 710 Paschal Avenue. Phone number for contact 7 information, if you have any questions, is (210) 8 949-2121. They are going to bring all three 9 vaccinations. They will bring Johnson and Johnson, 10 Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizer is the only one that's 11 approved or authorized for 12 and up. The other two are 12 for 18 and up. 13 Any questions on the -- yes, sir? 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: What's the response 15 been lately when we have these vaccinations? Are -- 16 who's turning out? Is there a bumper crop of people 17 still coming out for these or -- 18 MR. THOMAS: No, sir. It's -- it's 19 considerably decreased. I mean, we've had -- when we 20 started out we were having five or -- 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Sure. 22 MR. THOMAS: -- six hundred people signed 23 up, and now it's -- we're down to maybe 150. I mean, 24 June 1st and 2nd, the first dose -- the second doses 25 that we did for the May 3rd through the 7th where we had 14 1 666 people show up to get their first dose, only 150 2 people showed up June 1st and 2nd. Not all those were 3 second dose. Some of those were first dose. So it's 4 gone down significantly. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I would think so. 6 MR. THOMAS: All right. So winter storm. 7 You know, we're -- we're still -- we're continually 8 asking folks to complete the individual assistance 9 survey. The I-STAT. And that's the information that 10 FEMA is using to determine whether or not Kerr County 11 gets included in the individual assistance declaration. 12 Governor Abbott requested Kerr County be 13 included in the individual assistance declaration, along 14 with the public assistance declaration, in his original 15 disaster declaration. The first 77 counties were 16 automatically approved by FEMA. After that, another 38 17 counties were asked by the State to be included. Those 18 were all included, but Kerr County was not included in 19 that request. 20 The subsequent request after that was 21 another 27 counties, I believe, and Kerr County was 22 included in that request by FEMA, which we were denied. 23 We are still under -- we're still being considered by 24 FEMA for an add-on county to the individual assistance 25 declaration. So that I-STAT individual assistance 15 1 survey is extremely important for us to get those 2 completed. The deadline for that is June the 20th. All 3 those -- they've extended the deadline every month. So 4 I'm hoping that this will be the last extension and we 5 can finally get a determination from FEMA on whether or 6 not we're going to be included for individual 7 assistance. 8 I'm trying to give you a number. I still 9 have folks calling me and asking me about individual 10 assistance and I ask them about the survey, if they've 11 completed it and they say no, I haven't completed the 12 survey so I give them that information. But the numbers 13 for those surveys are not changing very much and I'm 14 really -- I'm -- I'm reaching out to folks, particularly 15 in West Kerr County and Mountain Home area. If you had 16 some type of damage, please complete that individual 17 assistance survey. 18 And that survey is located on the Kerr 19 County website. The link to the survey is there. You 20 just need to go back in to where it says news and 21 information. And you can pull that up from a press 22 release. Or you can e-mail me or call me and I will 23 personally send it to you. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: But it's your thought 25 that because they keep prolonging the deadline, that's 16 1 one reason we -- they haven't made a final 2 determination? 3 MR. THOMAS: I'm hoping that's why. Yes, 4 sir. We're -- we're still being considered by FEMA as 5 an add-on County. Now, as far as local businesses, if 6 we -- the County borders a declared county, like Kerr 7 County borders Gillespie and Bandera, then local 8 businesses are eligible for small business 9 administration loans. But as far as the individual 10 homeowner, it's going to be that I-STAT survey is going 11 to get us over the hump. So the total numbers from this 12 week -- I check them every day. This morning were 13 destroyed, survey we had three. Major damage, 179. 14 Minor, 122. Affected was 58. Minimal damage was 207, 15 for a total of 569 surveys. 16 And one of things we talked about for Kerr 17 County being included in individual assistance 18 declarations was whether -- how much you had to have 19 five homes and either major destroyed, underinsured or 20 no insurance at all. And to kind of give you an idea on 21 all 569 surveys, those that indicated they had insurance 22 was 432, no insurance -- 86 people said they had no 23 insurance, unknown was 51. As far as the coverage goes, 24 those indicating they had sufficient coverage was 238 25 out of the 569. 17 1 In Kerrville, that's a 55 percent number. 2 Underinsured was 85, which represents 19.6 percent. 3 Unknown was 109 at 25.23 percent. So that individual 4 assistance survey, I'm -- I'm pleading for the folks in 5 west Kerr County, particularly Mountain Home area, to 6 complete that individual assistance survey so we can get 7 this -- everybody can get declared and get some type of 8 assistance. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Dub, let me make sure I 10 understand. In comparison to the counties that have 11 been approved for personal -- individual assistance, 12 we're lagging behind in our damage surveys that have 13 been filed? 14 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. I haven't checked 15 the other counties around us. But from the last time 16 that I had -- was here, Bandera had 716, Gillespie 815, 17 and Kendall County had 950 surveys. And we're at 569 18 right now. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And I have a lot worse 20 damage than what Bandera did. 21 MR. THOMAS: So it's all about that 22 individual assistance survey. I'm going to talk to -- 23 I've got a phone conversation with our Region 6 recovery 24 coordinator tomorrow. Not only about individual 25 assistance, but possibly taking a look at a long-term 18 1 recovery group that might be able to provide some type 2 of assistance towards this. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Anything else? 4 MR. THOMAS: Anything else? Any more 5 questions? 6 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you, Dub. 7 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I just want to say that 9 that actually sounds like good news to me, that Kerr 10 County was a little more self-reliant than some of those 11 other counties are. I see it the other way. I see it 12 in a positive way. A lot of people just fixed their 13 stuff and moved on. 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, you don't get 15 all the phone calls I get either. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thanks, Dub. 18 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Next item on the agenda is 1.3 20 consider, discuss and take appropriate action on a 21 request to approve one reserve Deputy Constable position 22 in Precinct 4 Constables Office. Constable Rider. Is 23 this your first time in front of us? 24 CONSTABLE RIDER: It is, sir. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Welcome. 19 1 CONSTABLE RIDER: Thank you. 2 JUDGE KELLY: I don't bite, but the two on 3 the end do. I'm just teasing with you. 4 CONSTABLE RIDER: I think the reason -- I 5 guess you know the reason I was here. Precinct 4 6 Constable's Office is asking for a reserve position. 7 Precinct -- between the Judge and Commissioner Harris 8 know and maybe they discussed it with everybody else or 9 not, but it's kind of a park position. It's a non-paid, 10 kind of where he doesn't lose his license kind of thing. 11 That's where we're at with that. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And you're good with 13 it? 14 CONSTABLE RIDER: Yeah. 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: All right. I move for 16 approval. 17 CONSTABLE RIDER: I've known him -- I've 18 known him for a long time now. He's pretty 19 knowledgeable. 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good. 21 JUDGE KELLY: But this is somebody that's 22 trying to maintain their peace officer's commission? 23 CONSTABLE RIDER: It is. 24 JUDGE KELLY: And is placed with you. And 25 they're a volunteer reserve Deputy Constable? 20 1 CONSTABLE RIDER: Yes, sir. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So this is a win/win for us. 3 CONSTABLE RIDER: Yes, sir. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What's the practical 6 application? What's the day-to-day or weekly or monthly 7 routine going to be? Is he going to have actual duties? 8 Because are we doing him a favor, or is he doing us a 9 favor? 10 CONSTABLE RIDER: I think we're doing him a 11 favor. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's what it sounds 13 like. So what's he going to do? 14 CONSTABLE RIDER: His knowledge of the law. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No. What's he going to 16 do? I don't care what he knows right now. What's he 17 going to do? 18 CONSTABLE RIDER: I can't really have him do 19 much, to tell you the truth and -- just because of 20 another position he holds. And so, the actual do 21 anything would be probably show up at public events and 22 be visible. And help with that type of situation in 23 Precinct 4. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You mean for security 25 or just ornamental? 21 1 CONSTABLE RIDER: Both. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is this a precedent 4 that we're setting within the County? 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I don't think so. No. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No? It's either yes or 7 no. Is it a precedent we're setting? 8 MRS. STEBBINS: Other constables have -- 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Huh? 10 MRS. STEBBINS: Other constables have come 11 before the Court. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, this -- this is very 13 common. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. That's what I 15 thought but I -- 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: We've done this 17 before. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- wanted to make sure. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, it's a common practice 20 for the commission so they can stay active and stay 21 involved with law enforcement. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So that's what it is. 23 So following Commissioner Belew's thing, it's really for 24 him; it's not so much for us. 25 CONSTABLE RIDER: Well, where it helps us 22 1 is, like I said, I'm trying to state it, it's the public 2 events and having more presence of law enforcement in 3 the area. If the Sheriff here didn't have anybody out 4 there, I could or other constables could, it's just the 5 presence of another uniform. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Does it cost anything? 7 CONSTABLE RIDER: No, sir. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Nope. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Not for uniforms or 10 nothing? 11 CONSTABLE RIDER: No, sir. Not a thing. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Not a thing. Okay. So 13 there's no downside. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And you need us to approve 15 this? 16 CONSTABLE RIDER: Yes, sir. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well, I'll move that we 18 approve one reserve -- 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I already moved. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Oh, you've already made a 21 motion? 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. 23 JUDGE KELLY: A second? 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Not yet. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Then I'll second. 23 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So with that, is there any 3 other discussion? Those in favor say aye or raise your 4 hand. Unanimous. Thanks, Brad. 5 CONSTABLE RIDER: Thank you, sir. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Come back and see us. 7 CONSTABLE RIDER: Yes, sir. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Let's move on to item 1.4 9 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to accept 10 the donation in the amount of $625.00 from Kerrville 11 Pets Alive to Kerr County Animal Services for the 12 purchase of a PetLink Xtend Max Universal Stick 13 Microchip Scanner. Ms. Sandy. 14 MS. SANDY: That's a mouthful, isn't it? 15 And I get to say it again. My name is Shelly Sandy and 16 I'm at 3940 Oak Park Drive, and Treasurer of Kerrville 17 Pets Alive. Kerrville Pets Alive would like to present 18 Kerr County Animal Services with a restricted donation 19 of $625 for the purchase of a PetLink Xtend Max 20 Universal Stick Microchip Scanner. 21 Unlike the small hand-held scanner that's 22 currently used by KCAS personnel to microchip scan 23 stressed, frightened or aggressive impounded animals -- 24 oh, excuse me. The scanner is just over 27 inches long, 25 so it gives a little distance to allow the KCAS 24 1 personnel to microchip scan stressed, frightened or 2 aggressive impounded animals at a safer distance. 3 The scanners reading it can be worn on a 4 lanyard, allowing the user to hold the intended unit 5 with one hand, leaving their other hand free for 6 protection or to work with the animal. If working in 7 pairs, one person can hold the read unit and one can go 8 further forward with the stick antenna. The antennas is 9 also bite resistant to ensure many years of use. It is 10 also both Windows and Mac compatible and can be 11 connected to any computer via a USB or wireless 12 Bluetooth. 13 It is not required, but hopefully they'll 14 get some new computers when we get this intel. I have 15 personally seen this scanner and used it at Austin Pets 16 Alive, specifically used it on feral barn cats during 17 the intake process. The scanner's antenna has an 18 expanded lead distance and when properly used is capable 19 of reading through a standard transport crate by lining 20 the antenna's head along the crate's exterior side 21 towards the animal. 22 Kerrville Pets Alive is happy to provide 23 funding to Kerr County Animal Services to purchase this 24 chip scanner to more easily scan frightened or 25 aggressive animals for a microchip while simultaneously 25 1 increasing staff safety. 2 I would also like to take this opportunity 3 to let you know that KPA held our first free microchip 4 event this past Saturday at the Glory Gardens. In all, 5 91 Kerr County pets were implanted with free microchip 6 during the two-hour event, and we're already exploring 7 more microchip events. 8 We appreciate the support of KCAS staff 9 members Nichole Golden and Jasmine Lee(phonetic) during 10 the event. And we believe that reuniting people with 11 their lost pets is another positive step forward to 12 reduce impounds and euthanasia of Kerr County dogs and 13 cats. By working together, we can make a difference. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I'll move for approval 15 to accept the donation from Kerrville Pets Alive of $625 16 for Kerr County Animal Services to purchase a PetLink 17 Extend Max Universal Stick Microchip Scanner, and I 18 really thank what you good people at Pets Alive are 19 doing. So you thank us but we thank you immensely. 20 MS. SANDY: Thank you. We're trying. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 23 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 24 approve the gift in the amount of $625 from Kerrville 25 Pets Alive. Discussion? 26 1 MS. SANDY: We have pictures if you want to 2 see them. 3 JUDGE KELLY: We want to thank y'all for 4 everything that you do. 5 MS. SANDY: Yeah. 6 JUDGE KELLY: This has been a really good 7 partnership and we're very appreciative of your efforts. 8 So with that I'll call for a vote. Those in favor say 9 aye. Opposed? Okay. Unanimous. Thank you. 10 MS. SANDY: Thank you. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thanks, ladies. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.5. Can we sound the 13 trumpet? Information. This is an informational update 14 on the Kerrville Christmas Lighting Corporation. George 15 Eychner. 16 MR. EYCHNER: My name is George Eychner. 17 I'm 604 Cardinal Drive, Kerrville, Texas. And this 18 morning I represent the Kerrville Christmas Lighting 19 Corporation. And I want to thank Commissioner Letz, who 20 told me he was not going to be able to be here, for 21 putting this on the agenda and letting us give you an 22 update. 23 As you'll recall our project last year was 24 to do the zigzag ornaments from light stands that are 25 across the Sidney Baker bridge. And we did the lighted 27 1 Christmas parade in conjunction and coordination with 2 the County staff. And both were very successful. 3 And this year our project has been to raise 4 $200,000 to install electrical grid on Tranquility 5 Island for a -- initially to light 105 Cypress trees 6 that border the river. And all -- the long-term, 7 though, this is going to open up a possibility for 8 making Tranquility Island a Christmas -- actually a 9 holiday destination, but our -- our focus is on 10 Christmas. 11 We could have a Christmas Village, Santa's 12 Workshop, and people will say hey, let's go to -- let's 13 go to Kerrville and see Christmas lights, as opposed to 14 let's go to Johnson City or Marble Falls or 15 Fredericksburg. So we -- we're really pumped about it. 16 The Kerrville Economic and Christmas Corporation gave us 17 $100,000 challenge grant. 18 And right now we have $80,000 in the bank 19 and we are awaiting a $25,000 grant from the Community 20 Foundation of the Texas Hill Country. So the end is 21 really in sight. 22 The down -- we're still accepting 23 contributions. I have extra forms in case anybody else 24 needs one here. The downside of this is the price of 25 the PVC. I went on the Internet and it said that 28 1 there's 67% of the PVC manufacturers in the United 2 States are not in production because two back to back 3 hurricanes and the cold weather. And so it may be 4 cheaper to put in gold pipe in September than PVC, but 5 we're still collecting money. So any money that we 6 raise will go to the City of Kerrville and will be spent 7 on this project. A hundred percent of it will. We have 8 no overhead. No staff, no nada. So anyhow -- 9 The second part though is that November 20th 10 is going to be our -- our lighted -- the lighted holiday 11 parade and the court -- with your approval, the 12 Courthouse Christmas Lighting Ceremony. And Broadway 13 Bank has signed up to be the sponsor of it. 14 You'll remember they were going to do it 15 last year but because of COVID they had to back out. 16 But they're committed and have a reasonable amount of 17 money that I think they'll be able to put up. 18 And we've had a couple meetings on that. 19 And last year or whenever it was we had a conversation 20 about doing some sort of memorandum of understanding 21 with the Christmas -- Kerrville Christmas Lighting 22 Corporation, and I'd be happy to take that on if that 23 needs to happen. Commissioner Letz is our liaison and a 24 Board Member of the corporation, so we'll just 25 communicate through him whatever your desires are on 29 1 that. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: George, is -- this is 3 for trying to raise $200,000 and a hundred thousand 4 would be a match with -- 5 MR. EYCHNER: By EIC. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct? 7 MR. EYCHNER: Yes, sir. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Okay. So far, 9 have you had any big Saint Nicholas sponsors or Miss 10 Clause sponsors or anything? 11 MR. EYCHNER: Well, actually we had -- we've 12 had two. HEB has said -- has donated -- corporate HEB 13 has donated $5,000. And our really surprise, is Richard 14 Ferris from Cowboy Steakhouse, he donated $10,000.00. 15 He's a Saint Nicholas sponsor. 16 And I don't know if you know Richard, but I 17 always kind of considered him a bottom line kind of guy. 18 He never smiles and then when he answers a question it's 19 one or two syllables. And out of the blue, here came a 20 check in the mail. So he's our -- he's our elf on the 21 shelf in this whole project. Really appreciate him. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Well, hats off to Cowboy 23 Steakhouse. 24 MR. EYCHNER: You bet. You bet. 25 JUDGE KELLY: This is a very worthwhile 30 1 undertaking. As you know, I've always support it. 2 MR. EYCHNER: I appreciate it. We -- we'll 3 take a check from any of the rest of you as well so. 4 Anyhow, thanks for the opportunity. I really appreciate 5 it. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you for the report. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you, George. 8 JUDGE KELLY: No action on that item so 9 we'll move on to the next agenda item which is 1.6 10 consider, discuss and take appropriate action on a 11 Resolution recognizing Jim Mans for his service on the 12 Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board. Mary Rohrer. 13 Is Mary here? 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, if Mary's not 15 here, Judge, I'll be happy to pinch hit for Mary. Okay. 16 This is to recognize Jim Mans and the Resolution for his 17 participation and -- participation is not the right 18 word. For Jim Mans' active leadership and contribution 19 to the Kerr County Airport Board. Let me, if I may, 20 read the Resolution. Standing by. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and while you're getting 22 that pulled up on your screen, I've been advised from 23 the Airport Board that they want to present this to Jim 24 in person at our joint meeting with the City of 25 Kerrville on June the 16th. So that'll be Wednesday 31 1 afternoon, I think at one o'clock, and will be at the 2 Youth Event Center. No, at the -- 1:30 at the Dietert 3 Center. So we're not actually presenting the 4 certificate today, but we are acting on it as a court 5 and passing that Resolution. So if you would proceed. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. For the record, 7 let me read the Resolution. Recognition of C. James 8 Mans' service on Kerr County-Kerrville Joint Airport 9 Board. 10 Whereas -- I'm going to skip all the 11 whereases from there on. 12 Whereas, C. James Mans served on the Airport 13 Board from February 2018 until May 31st, 2021, and 14 served as the vice president of the board from 2019 to 15 2021. 16 Under his leadership the Airport Board with 17 participation of the City and County worked to develop a 18 strategic plan for 2019 through 2023 for the airport. 19 As a member of the Joint Airport Board, he 20 worked to update and revise the Interlocal Agreement 21 that was approved by the City and the County. As a 22 member of the Board, he helped -- he helped to develop 23 new processes that improved the financial reporting of 24 the airport. As a member of the Board, he worked to 25 develop and approve an annual budget. 32 1 Therefore, Kerr County Commissioners' Court 2 does hereby thank and recognize C. James Mans for his 3 dedication, leadership, management expertise and 4 valuable assistance in making the Kerrville-Kerr County 5 Airport one of the best general aviation airports in 6 Texas and a valuable and important asset to Kerr County. 7 And with that, I make a motion that we adopt 8 this Resolution. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 11 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 12 approve the Resolution. Any discussion? 13 One thing I would point out is that under 14 Jim's leadership they've taken the Airport Board to be 15 self-sustaining. It's no longer underwritten as far as 16 operations for capital improvements from the City and 17 County. But in terms of operation, the airport is 18 self-sufficient, and we are eternally grateful for that. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I would amplify one 20 thing too. Jim worked diligently to develop a strategic 21 plan and it was -- it was not a six page strategic plan, 22 it involved all the stakeholders in developing the 23 strategic plan over a very long period of time, and they 24 report on this strategic plan every month of what's 25 being done, to accomplish the objectives and what is 33 1 being done and what the issues are. So Jim did a 2 fabulous job leading that effort so. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. Then those in 4 favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 5 Next on the agenda is item 1.7 consider, 6 discuss and take appropriate action regarding the Hill 7 Country Amateur Radio Club lease of River Star Event 8 Park office and communication tower site. Shane Evans 9 and Clayson Lambert. 10 MR. LAMBERT: Good morning, Commissioners. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me start if I may, 12 Clay. 13 MR. LAMBERT: Pardon? 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We -- the Court has 15 reviewed this lease in the past and I think it had a one 16 dollar amount in there for the lease for -- for the Hill 17 Country Amateur Radio Club and there is also an open 18 question about the communication tower, where or when 19 and how it would be erected. So I'm going to jump one 20 more step ahead of you. 21 As part of -- part of this thing, we thought 22 that it was probably -- they're going to use an air 23 conditioned building, okay, as part of their equipment 24 if we approve this lease. And -- and so we got 25 information from Jake on the amount of electricity 34 1 that's being used in those facilities. Two buildings 2 out there, the restroom and then the office building 3 that's out at River Star Park. So we got that 4 information. We know what the electrical power 5 consumption is. Shane looked at the amount of 6 air-conditioning in those two things. 7 And with that, the three of us then looked 8 at it and said, okay, a fair amount of electricity use 9 by Hill Country Amateur Radio Club is like $70 per year 10 would be the fair amount for them to play -- pay, but I 11 think we're going to recommend that the lease be changed 12 to a hundred dollars per year, just for any additional 13 use or things that we have in there. 14 So I just wanted to get that over for the 15 Court so that we don't belabor it too much there, and I 16 think the County Attorney's reviewed that. Excuse me, 17 Clay. 18 MR. LAMBERT: Well, I think you pretty much 19 covered it, Commissioner Moser. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 21 MR. LAMBERT: I don't have much else to say, 22 except we appreciate Shane's help. There was times that 23 I had to call him and ask him a lot of questions. I 24 know he had important things to do and I -- I appreciate 25 your input. So we are -- we're perfectly happy with 35 1 that arrangement, moving the lease rate from one dollar 2 to a hundred dollars a year, and we're ready to get 3 started. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Why don't you say 5 something about the -- as part of the lease too, it's a 6 delineation of where the tower is, it's located -- why 7 don't you give us an update on where that would be, what 8 the schedule is. 9 MR. LAMBERT: We were very fortunate. This 10 tower and ancillary equipment if purchased new would be 11 just over $7,000. We found a tower that's only seven -- 12 or several years old, I think two years old. The ham 13 radio operator that had purchased it passed away and his 14 wife is letting us have the whole package for $2,000.00. 15 So we need to pick that up from San Marcos, bring it 16 over. It's a free-standing tower. 17 Commissioner Belew was concerned earlier 18 about guide wires. This one requires none. At our 19 expense, we'll be digging a big hole and putting a 20 concrete foundation in there. The tower will be 21 adjacent to the center of the building in question, 22 facing the Riverside. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good. Shane, anything? 24 MR. EVANS: Sir? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Anything that you want 36 1 to add? 2 MR. EVANS: That tower, I think that's a 3 great location for it. I would recommend that we get a 4 dig test done in that area because I do know that there 5 is a gas line out there. I know it's along Highway 27 6 on that corner. But I would recommend that we get that. 7 Just to cover our bases to make sure we don't get in any 8 problems. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, with that I will 10 move for approval for the lease with Hill Country 11 Amateur Radio Club and the County for the use of part of 12 the office at the River Star Event Center, and to erect 13 the tower associated with it. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 16 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 17 approve the contract with the Hill Country Amateur Radio 18 Club for the tower at the River Star Event Center. With 19 that, is there any discussion? Okay. Those in favor 20 raise your hand. Unanimous, five -- four zero. 21 MR. LAMBERT: We thank you and, as I 22 mentioned before, we have a little over a hundred 23 members in our club now. Each -- almost all of them 24 with at least 30 years of experience in RF, radio 25 frequency transmission. So we bring about 3,000 man 37 1 years of expertise to you and we're looking forward to 2 working with the Sheriff's Department, Dub Thomas and 3 whoever else to help in any way with emergency 4 communications. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And as the Sheriff and 7 Dub said, it's just another layer of communication as 8 9-1-1 said. It's another layer of communication in case 9 of emergency. So we thank you. 10 MR. LAMBERT: Thank you, Commissioner. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Moving on. Item 1.8 12 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to upgrade 13 the fire panel monitoring system in the courthouse. 14 Shane Evans. 15 MR. EVANS: Good morning, gentlemen. 16 Starting January or February, our communication device 17 on that fire panel is going to expire. It will no 18 longer tone. It won't work. It will not be supported 19 by any -- any of the systems. What it is currently is a 20 3G and 4G. And starting January or February, that's not 21 going to work anymore. It's going to have to be 22 upgraded to the LTE, that stands for long-term 23 evolution. 24 So I'll recommend that we go ahead and get 25 that replaced, but it also comes with a new contract 38 1 once we do that. If we do this right now, only the 2 radio swap, at this point it's $950.00. And if we go 3 with the three-year term agreement along with the radio 4 agreement, it's only $599. And then the monitoring 5 price would incur an increase of $4.50 per month. And 6 that's usually paid -- that's paid quarterly. So 7 currently we're paying $248 quarterly to have our fire 8 panel alarm. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Will this come out of 10 your budget? 11 MR. EVANS: Yes. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And you got money in 13 there for this? 14 MR. EVANS: Yes. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How much of an increase 16 is that, Shane? Or is this all new spending? 17 MR. EVANS: That will be an increase of, 18 what, I guess $13, $13.50 a month. Or -- yeah, well, it 19 will be actually $13.50 more quarterly. And we're 20 currently paying $248. It's one of those things we 21 should do as soon as we can because there's may be other 22 people that's going to wait until the last minute to get 23 their systems upgraded, and then it will become a 24 problem getting businesses to get people out there to do 25 it and the materials. 39 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So is the equipment 2 available now? 3 MR. EVANS: It's available now. They're 4 going to be here the 26th of this month to do their 5 buy-in on the station on the fire panel. But if y'all 6 approve this, then they'll be here to replace the radio 7 swap and do it all at the same time. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't want to get 9 into the weeds here, but this -- so 3G, 4G, this is 10 going to be a non-effective panel, is that correct? 11 MR. EVANS: Yes. The term is -- that they 12 use it's going to be sunset in January or February. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what are people 14 going to -- it's not going to go to 5G so what's it 15 going to go to? 16 MR. EVANS: LTE. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Something you can keep 18 updating. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. I see. Okay. 20 All right. So that was my question. Okay. Thank you. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Everybody's in the 22 same boat then? 23 MR. EVANS: Yes. Yes, sir. It's -- there 24 will be millions of people having to do this. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 40 1 MR. EVANS: I would like to be kind of 2 proactive and get this thing taken care of before -- 3 because we do have to have this building monitored 24/7. 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Sure. Well, I'll move 5 for approval. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 9 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 10 approve the upgrade of the fire panel monitoring system 11 in the courthouse. I think we got the ABC's on the 12 LTD's and the -- 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Until they update them. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, I know. Is there any 15 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 16 four zero. Thank you, Shane. 17 Miss Lantz. Item 1.9 consider, discuss and 18 take appropriate action to approve the renewal of the 19 Thomson Reuters-West Proflex Patron Access Edge for Kerr 20 County Law Library. You may proceed. 21 MRS. LANTZ: Good morning, Judge and 22 Commissioners. This is just one of the programs that we 23 have that our patrons use in our law library to access 24 legal resources. And I just -- I'm coming before the 25 Court to renew the contract for just 17 months to get it 41 1 concurrent with our other program that we have with 2 Westlaw, and that is the attorney part of our package. 3 And the contract has gone to the County Attorney for her 4 review. So I'm just asking for approval. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. The rate's the 6 same as it has been or -- 7 MRS. LANTZ: Yes. And this is through a 8 dedicated law library fund. That's what pays for it. 9 So it's -- 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 13 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 14 approve the renewal of the Thomson Reuters-West Proflex 15 Patron Access Edge for Kerr County Law Library. Any 16 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 17 four zero. Thank you, Miss Lantz. 18 MRS. LANTZ: Thank you. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.10 consider, discuss 20 and take appropriate action on the request from the 21 Mountain Home Volunteer Fire Department for fiscal 22 assistance from Kerr County's Coronavirus Local Fiscal 23 Recovery Fund monies for losses from the pandemic. And 24 we've got Jack Clarke and -- 25 MR. CLARKE: Good morning, Judge. Good 42 1 morning, Commissioners. Jake's still here? 2 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, he's up here. 3 MR. CLARKE: Okay. Hello. Jack Clarke, 4 Treasurer ESD 2. You mentioned that in the paper 5 without the fire department. But the reasoning behind 6 it is ESD 2 is a member of a organization called SAFE-D. 7 They're a group of lawyers in Austin that don't regulate 8 but they give us information on what state related ESD's 9 are. 10 Several weeks ago I sat in on a webinar 11 related to this Covid relief fund package. And very 12 confusing, but it was primarily, as you know -- I'm sure 13 you know, was related to monies lost for counties 14 related to -- well, the reason we were there was so many 15 of the ESD's have emergency services, ambulance service 16 and that was a big loss. 17 I think ours was more like police 18 departments, plastic bins, partitions, those kinds of 19 things that direct loss. But one of the stipulations in 20 there was the non-profits who lost money due to Covid. 21 I am presenting to y'all that -- 22 I'm sorry. Don, do they have what I gave 23 you in your packet? 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: No, they don't. But I 25 will put it -- well, it's an overview of, I think, the 43 1 last five years average from fundraisers and what 2 they -- Mountain Home Volunteer Fire Department missed 3 out on last year. 4 MR. CLARKE: We're asking -- supposedly Kerr 5 County is allocated 10.2 million. Seems to be some 6 discussion as to whether 5.1 has been sent or none or 7 whatever. So I can't seem to find that out. 8 Judge, do you know what's the status of 9 that? 10 JUDGE KELLY: I think that is the -- if 11 we're talking about the 10 point -- the $10 million is 12 from the American Rescue Plan and it's ARPA. 13 MR. CLARKE: Right. ARP. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And I think -- the way I read 15 your agenda item it was related to the Coronavirus Local 16 Fiscal Recovery Plan. Was that -- 17 MR. CLARKE: No, it's -- it's from ARP. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, it will be. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So it will be out of 20 ARPA? 21 MR. CLARKE: Yes. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Then that's correct. We've 23 been pre approved for that, and we have limited items 24 that we can spend it on, but all related to Covid. 25 MR. CLARKE: Okay. Like I say, that's -- 44 1 we're willing to discuss and see if you think you could 2 put us in as a non-profit that was -- fundraiser that 3 was cancelled due to -- not everything, but 4 Commissioners' Court regulations, so that -- that is the 5 request. For $40,000 is an average over the past five 6 years that we thought we would have made. 7 JUDGE KELLY: The way we -- the way we 8 handle this, Jack, is we work through Tanya Shelton, our 9 County Auditor, who oversees the grant application. And 10 what we'll need to do is to confirm the -- that this 11 qualifies for the funds. And we'll want to do this with 12 all ESD's or non-profits that -- 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Not ESD's; it's 14 Mountain Home. 15 MR. CLARKE: Mountain Home. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: VFD's. 17 JUDGE KELLY: I'm sorry. VFD's. 18 MR. CLARKE: Mountain Home Fire Department. 19 Ours was established. We had a five-year average but it 20 was canceled in October. My problem is that when I went 21 to her, she didn't know anything about it. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Well, you -- 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Now, when you say that, 24 Jack, she doesn't know anything about it means she had 25 no information for you or she didn't know the details? 45 1 MR. CLARKE: Well, no information for me. 2 Just told me there were some forms that might be needed 3 if it was there, but indicated that she didn't know 4 anything about the money. That's the impression I got. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I visited with 6 Tanya on it as well. And it was kind of like it was 7 hurry up and wait. The -- go ahead, Tanya, I'll hand 8 off to you. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let -- let me say, there 10 are a number of organizations that are looking to 11 possibly access these funds that are being made 12 available to the County. And one of which we have a 13 meeting on later this month involves mental health and 14 developmental disabilities with regard to mental health 15 deputies because of the problems we've had during the 16 pandemic. 17 This is similar type situation that we have 18 here but the VFD have some losses that they would like 19 to present. I think they all come -- it just depends on 20 whether or not they qualify under the act. And the 21 problem with that is, they don't tell us right off the 22 bat what qualifies and so we -- we stumble along until 23 we get the green light. Once we get the green light, 24 then we can submit the applications. I know that much 25 about the process because that's -- we're already in the 46 1 middle of that. 2 MRS. SHELTON, do you have anything to share 3 with us? 4 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. So there are 5 technical assistants and questions that are asked all 6 along. So far there's been three rounds. One was about 7 May 8th, one was on June 8th, and then again on June 8 10th. So on June 10th, they clarified what type of 9 services are eligible as responses -- responses to the 10 negative economic impact of the pandemic. 11 And it says in this that assistance to small 12 business and non-profit includes, but is not limited to, 13 loans or grants, for example, by supporting payroll and 14 benefit cost, cost to retain employees, mortgage, rent, 15 utility cost, and other operating costs. That's what 16 the regulations are today. 17 So for the specifics of lost revenue, I do 18 not see anything in here that addresses that. That 19 doesn't mean that the question can't be put in and it 20 might be answered further down the road. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I mean, and you don't 22 see anything that addresses it yet. And this -- 23 MRS. SHELTON: Correct. 24 JUDGE KELLY: -- that's like when we went 25 through the coronavirus grant at the end of last year, 47 1 we didn't find out until late in the game what was 2 actually going to qualify and then, once we found out, 3 we were able to place those funds. What we have are 4 advocacy groups, I suspect like the ESD's or others -- 5 MHDD, some of these others -- that are advocating that 6 they have losses that they would like to have qualified 7 under ARPA, the American Rescue Plan Act. 8 And what we're waiting for is the thumbs up 9 green light from the government that they're going to do 10 that. And so what we need to do with you, Jack, is 11 coordinate getting those applications on file and so 12 that we can stand in line to see if we're going to get 13 approval. 14 MR. CLARKE: I understand that. That's the 15 reason I'm here. That's the reason I told Don that -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: You bet. 17 MR. CLARKE: -- I had a lack of information. 18 But, like I say, I couldn't find out whether the money 19 even existed or not. Does it -- does the County have 20 half of it? 21 MRS. SHELTON: The money is -- 22 JUDGE KELLY: We do. 23 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. And the money has been 24 -- half of it has been transferred to Kerr County. 25 MR. CLARKE: Okay. So that's what I wanted 48 1 to discuss was that. 2 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But, if it gets 4 allocated to something that's not on the list that Tanya 5 was talking about, it'll get clawed back and that hurts 6 everybody, so -- 7 MR. CLARKE: Yeah. Well -- 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- you can't do that. 9 MR. CLARKE: -- do I, on my end, follow for 10 that or as I make the application, will that go into 11 whoever higher beings are to say whether it's qualified 12 or not? I mean, do I need to do anything at this stage? 13 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. MRS. SHELTON. 14 MRS. SHELTON: The application right now, we 15 don't know what an application would look like because 16 we don't know what the rules are. It will be up to Kerr 17 County to ensure that whatever funds we pay out through 18 this are directly related to Covid, follow all the 19 Federal guidelines for A, B, C, D, E, F, whatever it 20 amounts to. So we are going to have to design whatever 21 the program is before we actually start taking 22 applications. 23 MR. CLARKE: Yeah. I understand that. But 24 my -- my point is, at this point is that I am applying 25 to y'all as a non-profit with lost operating fund 49 1 revenue. I mean, we start out as fundraiser as a 2 guideline, but that is direct operating cost for 3 Mountain Home Fire Department. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Let me -- let me ask a 5 question. 6 MR. CLARKE: Okay. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's -- it's not really 8 a loss, it's revenue you didn't get. Okay. So it's 9 not -- but anyway. Let's put that aside for a second. 10 This is -- 11 MR. CLARKE: We didn't get it. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- this is for Mountain 13 Home Volunteer Fire Department. Okay. That's the 14 agenda item. How about the other volunteer fire 15 departments? 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I'm sure they will 17 line up, too. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So as the County, if 19 we're going to look at this, we've got to look across 20 the board, okay -- 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- at this. If we've 23 got -- if Tanya says we've got funds, it has to be 24 allocated consistent with the -- with the requirements 25 of the guidelines. So I think we -- it's something we 50 1 need to look at. And probably, seems to me like Tanya 2 or somebody goes back and asks for clarification on the 3 quote, the loss. Right? 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Are we talking about 5 Mountain Home Volunteer Fire Department, or the ESD? 6 MR. CLARKE: No. Volunteer fire department. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This is for Mountain 8 Home -- 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. 10 MR. CLARKE: Right. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- which was very, very 12 active, more so than any of the other -- 13 MR. CLARKE: Right. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I don't know about 15 that. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It is true. So we -- 17 and you can take my word for it. It's going to be -- 18 oh, I thought you were talking about the storm. It went 19 all the way through COVID. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is COVID. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. Through COVID. 22 That's right. It's part of the American Recovery Act, 23 right. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So everybody's about 51 1 equally hit because nobody had their -- 2 MR. CLARKE: Right. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But each one lost a 4 different amount. So my point remains the same. 5 Everybody will apply for a different amount and you have 6 to, before you can apply, know what the criteria is. So 7 you -- you can put an application in. And then you get 8 bumped to the end of the line when -- when somebody else 9 knew what it was, put theirs in first. 10 So my suggestion is, being if this is okay 11 with Miss Shelton, that you just check back with her 12 periodically until she knows or that she would contact 13 all the Volunteer Fire Departments and let them know 14 what that list is going to be. I -- I wouldn't know any 15 other way to do that. 16 But you've got to have -- a guy has to be 17 responsible for his own needs. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. And Jack brings 19 it to our attention and he's speaking out because he's 20 the first one that really saw it on that webinar or what 21 have you and brought it to -- you know, brought it to my 22 attention. And -- and so, he's here on behalf of 23 Mountain Home, somebody else from Hunt might have seen 24 it if they sat in on the same webinar. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I think -- I 52 1 think it's good that Jack saw it but -- 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Without a doubt. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- but it's applicable 4 to all of them. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: To all of them. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Without a doubt. So 8 that's -- the only reason he's here and not Center Point 9 or somebody else, he's bringing it -- 10 MR. CLARKE: Well, with -- with one 11 exception I might mention, is ours is an annual event, 12 which was directly affected and cancelled. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that's true of 14 other Volunteer Fire Departments. 15 MR. CLARKE: Well, I'm sure it is. But I'm 16 saying each one would have to say, okay, on October the 17 10th of every year we have a fundraiser and this 18 particular year it was cancelled. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. 20 MR. CLARKE: That's the only thing I'm 21 trying to put in. And I understand, like I say, but now 22 I know that there is 5.1 million, and I will see what 23 she wants to have for me to consider or make an 24 application or whatever. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and -- and Jack, let me 53 1 add this. And this goes back from last year's 2 experience. If there's anything I've learned, the 3 federal government loves the press to come out and 4 announce that they're having these relief programs. 5 Then the devil's in the details and you start getting 6 into what qualifies for those grants. And I'm telling 7 you, we went through heck last year with this thing -- 8 MR. CLARKE: I know. 9 JUDGE KELLY: -- and we went through the 10 whole thing trying to get hazard pay for our first 11 responders only to have them say -- come back and tell 12 us, well, you can't have that. And then they come back 13 and say but you can have payroll. So we ended up doing 14 payroll. And it is -- they are a moving target, trust 15 me. They -- they -- the press says they gave us the 16 money. The money has been wire transferred and, Jack, I 17 made sure that happened and we do have it in our bank 18 account. 19 MR. CLARKE: Right. 20 JUDGE KELLY: We're trying to figure out 21 how -- what's going to qualify and how to spend it. And 22 what that's going to take, I think, and I'm trying to 23 land our helicopter and get back down on the ground, is 24 I think it's going to take collaboration and just 25 staying in touch with one another and being able to 54 1 coordinate this and we do that through the auditor's 2 office. And I can assure you that the auditor's office 3 is the most informed office in this Courthouse with 4 regard to getting these funds in. 5 MR. CLARKE: Okay. Well, I'm sorry I didn't 6 get the impression when I was there. So that's -- 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well -- 8 MR. CLARKE: -- the reason I'm here asking. 9 JUDGE KELLY: -- then -- then if -- if -- my 10 impression is that they know more than anybody else. 11 They know more than I do. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: But they haven't been 13 told everything they need to know. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Right. And its been -- 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: So it's not their 16 fault. 17 JUDGE KELLY: That's right. And it unfolds 18 over time. They go through these -- these -- what do we 19 call them, questions -- 20 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. Frequently asked 21 questions. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Frequently asked questions. 23 And we went through, I don't know, what, dozens back 24 last year? And to find out what did and did not qualify 25 and then eventually they tell you what you can go ahead 55 1 and submit the applications for. 2 MR. CLARKE: Okay. 3 JUDGE KELLY: And what we're telling you is 4 we want to fully cooperate in any way possible to help 5 Mountain Home, to help the other Volunteer Fire 6 Departments. Anyone that we can help in this community 7 by way of non-profits and lost money, we want to try to 8 help him. But they've got their own regulations that 9 we're going to have to tie them to the criteria that 10 qualifies for their funding. 11 MR. CLARKE: Okay. Well, I appreciate that. 12 JUDGE KELLY: And we are supportive. 13 MR. CLARKE: I just thought this was a 14 starting point. And I had the same Act she did already. 15 And when it said non-profit and it said lost revenue and 16 the things that are eligible, that's the reason I came. 17 JUDGE KELLY: And we appreciate it. And 18 welcome your -- 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Without a doubt. 20 MR. CLARKE: Good. Thank you very much. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And that -- one more -- 22 when I was -- I got my -- confused on which thing we 23 were talking about a minute ago, the winter storm versus 24 COVID versus something else. So I apologize for that -- 25 MR. CLARKE: It's okay. 56 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- Commissioner Moser. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: That's not a problem. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: But the -- the -- each 4 one of them lost a different amount because what -- what 5 comes in from the fish fry in Center Point is not what 6 comes in from the steak dinner in Mountain Home. So 7 that part of it does remain the same. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And Ingram doesn't 9 even have one. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. And Turtle Creek 11 has a small one and it doesn't bring in as much money 12 so. Everybody still would have to apply for -- if it 13 was their lost income, apply for different amounts. 14 Just like right now. All the volunteer fire departments 15 are receiving varying amounts of assistance from the 16 County. And some none. They're all different. So I -- 17 I don't want anybody thinking one size fits all. We had 18 that. We fixed that and we went on from there. 19 JUDGE KELLY: But one thing we would remind 20 you, Jack, is Commissioner Harris is our Liaison 21 Commissioner for Volunteer Fire Departments -- 22 MR. CLARKE: Right. 23 JUDGE KELLY: -- and our VFD and he is our 24 point person for this Court. So please keep him in the 25 loop. 57 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Oh, he came to me 2 right off the bat. Yeah, they do. 3 MR. CLARKE: Yeah. That's where I started 4 and so that's -- 5 JUDGE KELLY: If -- if the Federal 6 Government will let us do it, I can assure you we will 7 get you across the finish line. 8 MR. CLARKE: Okay. Thank you very much. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. It is ten o'clock. 10 We've got some timed items after this. Why don't we 11 take about a ten minute break and be back here at ten 12 minutes after 10:00. We'll stand in recess. 13 (Recess.) 14 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Court will come back to 15 order. And what we're going to do, we got 4-H on the 16 agenda in three places here consecutively, so I'm going 17 to call 1.11, 1.12, and 1.13, and I'll read those off. 18 And then what I would ask that the leadership of the 4-H 19 group to do is let us know which is 11, which is 12, and 20 which is 13 so we have a clear record of that. 21 So with that I'm going to call 1.11, which 22 is consider, discuss and take appropriate action to 23 approve or deny a request from the local ISD's, led by 24 the Kerr County 4-H AgriLife Extension Office, for use 25 of the Texas Hill Country Youth Event Center Show Barn 58 1 annually in December to hold their School livestock 2 shows. And that will be an action item that we'll need 3 to make a motion on. 4 And then 1.12 is to consider, discuss and 5 take appropriate action to approve or deny a request 6 from Kerr County 4-H on free use of facility, plus 7 expenses incurred, during the approved use at the HCYEC 8 for the annual School livestock shows. 9 And then 1.13, which is also 4-H related, is 10 a presentation regarding Kerr County 4-H interpretation. 11 So in 11 and 12, we will take action and on 12 13 we won't. But you can present them in any order you 13 would like. 14 MS. FIEDLER: Good morning. This is going 15 to be mine on 1.13. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 17 MS. FIEDLER: So this is interpretation of 18 our 4-H program. 19 JUDGE KELLY: And if you would identify 20 yourself for the record. 21 MS. FIEDLER. Yes. I'm Angela Fiedler, the 22 Kerr County Extension Agent for Family Community Health. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you. 24 MS. SMITH: And I'm Jennifer Smith, the 4-H 25 agent for Kerr County. 59 1 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. You may proceed. 2 MS. FIEDLER: So I'd like to introduce some 3 of our kiddos. This is just a few of them, but we're 4 glad that they're here with us today. We've been on the 5 road all last week. And we took them to State 4-H 6 roundup in College Station. So this is something that 7 we've done for 75 years and Kerr 4-H has been very 8 involved in that. We've always had youth attend state 9 contests. It's hard work. It's not something that 10 happens overnight. It's something they have prepared 11 for all year long. 12 So these kids, even though we've had the 13 pandemic and everything going on, we've had to find 14 creative ways to continue to practice with them, to 15 train our leaders, to have different project leaders 16 that work with them, experts in the field. And so 17 whatever it is that they're competing in. So they've had 18 to compete at the County level and then they progressed 19 to the district level, and then if they've been at the 20 district level, they get to go on to state and represent 21 Kerrville. So we're excited that they're here today. 22 We took seven youths with us last week. And 23 we loaded up the van on Monday and they -- they were 24 counting how many curbs I hit. But I think we had a 25 good time. And so I -- if they would come on up. 60 1 Let's start with our Livestock Skillathon. 2 We have team Emma Thompson, Abigail Borden, and Lizzie 3 Scales. 4 JUDGE KELLY: And each one of those, if you 5 would, step to the mic and identify yourself so the 6 public knows who you are. 7 MS. THOMPSON: Yes, my name is Emma 8 Thompson. 9 MS. BORDEN: I'm Abigail Borden. 10 MS. SCALES: I'm Lizzie Scales. 11 MS. THOMPSON: And we competed in the 12 livestock skillathon competition. It was a new 13 competition for us. And we kind of -- kind of winged 14 it. We didn't have a lot of practices just because of 15 the pandemic, and we had wanted to try something new and 16 we kind of started a little late, but we ended up being 17 12th overall, which is pretty good for our first 18 contest. 19 (Applause.) 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Nice job. Very good. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: About how many -- how 22 many contestants? 23 MS. THOMPSON: There were 18 teams and about 24 62 contests overall. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Great. 61 1 MS. BORDEN: So we weren't the last. Well, 2 but what Livestock Skillathon means is you have to know 3 how to meat judge, rule judge, hay judge, you have to be 4 able to identify feeds, and what they're used for and 5 identify breeds and their characteristics. You have to 6 know the instruments that are used. And there are 7 practical tests, how to read a label on medicine, how to 8 read a feed label and basically everything that can go 9 into the livestock industry. 10 MS. FIEDLER: So there's a lot of 11 components. So can you go ahead and -- 12 Okay, so I'm going to ahead and let them 13 talk about their next contest, the mohair judging. 14 MS. BORDEN: Yes. Well, we were also the 15 mohair team. So Lizzie is going to explain a little 16 about that. 17 MS. SCALES: So we did mohair judging. And 18 we got kind of known for mohair components in Kerr 19 County. And so we placed first overall out of six 20 different teams at state. And -- 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: First? 22 MS. SCALES: Yes. We placed first. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wow. 24 JUDGE KELLY: And we would expect nothing 25 less. 62 1 MS. SCALES: No, of course not. Both -- 2 well, first, second and third place high individuals did 3 come from Kerr County. And I did place for the high 4 individual. Abigail placed second high. 5 MS. BORDEN: I was third high. 6 MS. SCALES: Oh, third high. Our second 7 high is not here today. 8 MS. THOMPSON: I got sixth high individual. 9 MS. FIEDLER: Show them some of your awards. 10 MS. BORDEN: Oh. Banners and then -- 11 MS. FIEDLER: You can show them the cane. 12 MS. SCALES: I got a cane. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Commissioner Belew may have 14 need for that. 15 MS. SCALES: So the cane is used for 16 representing the wool and mohair clinic. Since it is 17 sheep and goats and shepherds. So we got little -- 18 little canes. 19 MS. BORDEN: So the way she got her cane was 20 she was the highest individual in one of the components 21 of the contest. So she was high individual in placing. 22 While our second place was high individual in grading, 23 they both received a shepherd's cane. 24 MS. FIEDLER: And why don't you all tell us 25 who the -- the other person is. 63 1 MS. SCALES: Oh, the other person is Shelby 2 Mejia. She placed second high individual and was first 3 in grading and was third overall. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I have a feeling y'all 5 know Dr. Fred Speck very well. 6 MS. SCALES: Yes, yes. He's our coach. 7 MS. FIEDLER: We spent -- they spent almost 8 five hours with him yesterday. 9 MS. SCALES: It was a lot. 10 UNIDENTIFIED VOICE: And why did y'all 11 practice with him? 12 MS. SCALES: We practiced with him yesterday 13 because he will be attending the Sonora contest. That's 14 next Wednesday. 15 MS. THOMPSON: At the Sonora contest, 16 though, it is a little bit different. So we have -- our 17 wool and mohair, which we know pretty well, but we also 18 have to judge clean, I.D. and range, which -- I mean, 19 none of are really experts in it but, once again, we're 20 practicing and going for it. 21 And we're also judging livestock. And it's 22 a little bit different than any normal livestock 23 competition. It's different animals, it's breeding 24 sheep, hair sheep, meat goat and angora goats. So -- 25 MS. FIEDLER: And this is for nationals. 64 1 This is considered the national contest. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good luck. 3 MS. BORDEN: And the -- all of the planning 4 that goes into it, we get points for everything which is 5 why we judge everything, even though we don't 6 technically judge it, and that all goes to the point 7 scores which is the goal. Which we did win the last 8 time we were there so we're hoping to get it again. 9 JUDGE KELLY: You all seem to work together 10 well as a team. Who's in charge? 11 MS. BORDEN: She's the one that's been here 12 the longest. I've only been here for two-ish years. 13 MS. SCALES: She's also typically our 14 highest individual in like everything, so -- 15 MS. THOMPSON: I've been here for seven 16 years. My sister got me started. So I'd like to say 17 she's in charge but -- 18 JUDGE KELLY: Well, congratulations, girls. 19 Well done. 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good luck. 21 (Applause.) 22 MS. FIEDLER: If I could get my Horse Quiz 23 Bowl team to come forward. And then go ahead and stand 24 right here in front of this camera and tell us your 25 names. 65 1 MS. WATSON: I'm Cayleigh Watson. 2 MR. HALL: I'm Nathanael Hall. 3 MS. WATSON: And we competed at Horse Quiz 4 Bowl and -- 5 JUDGE KELLY: Speak a little louder and 6 right at that camera. 7 MS. WATSON: Okay. We competed in Horse 8 Quiz Bowl for state and we made it a couple rounds in 9 it, I'm pretty sure. But we did really well for, I 10 think, our first time doing State for a while. 11 MR. HALL: Yeah. We had district against -- 12 it was -- I think a couple other teams at district and 13 we made the state, where there was quite a few teams. 14 This is the first time in two years, and so we didn't 15 have as many practices as we would have liked due to 16 COVID, but we still did considerably well since they 17 just recently switched all the questions to more new 18 stuff. That was all new study guides and -- yeah. We 19 were just -- it was a really fun competition and I think 20 we did pretty well all things considered. 21 MS. FIEDLER: Why don't you tell them a 22 little bit about what Horse Quiz Bowl, how that's set 23 up. 24 MR. HALL: So basically it's like a game 25 show, if you will, where there's two teams all lined up. 66 1 You have buzzers. They read a question, you have five 2 seconds to buzz in and then five seconds to begin your 3 answer to the question. You get it wrong, you lose a 4 point. You get it right, you get a point. You get 5 bonus questions. All kinds of stuff. 6 And this year they introduced a whole new 7 bunch of rules about team participation where everybody 8 else is getting points and all kinds of stuff. It's all 9 about horse questions. Very technical stuff and details 10 about horses, so -- 11 MS. FIEDLER: All right. And then the 12 public -- tell them about some of the other members who 13 couldn't be here today. 14 MS. WATSON: Yeah, we have two other 15 members. We have Ella Davis, and we have Shelby Mejia 16 who also was on our team. And they just can't make it 17 today. 18 MS. FIEDLER: It's a four-man team. A 19 four-lady -- four-coed team. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Four person. 21 MS. FIEDLER: So they had to study. They 22 have a study guide that they have to know, so -- 23 All right. Thank you. So I'm going to let 24 Nathanael stay up and give a little bit more. Is that 25 okay? 67 1 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 2 MR. HALL: So like I said, I'm Nathanael 3 Hall. I am also a Texas 4-H student ambassador. So 4 outside of Horse Quiz Bowl, I also competed in 5 Educational Presentation, but that's just a side point. 6 So as the Ambassador at roundup, our primary 7 goal is to film and do interviews all throughout the 8 week and produce a newscast every evening at the 9 assemblies, and we release one in the morning on various 10 social media platforms. 11 And then we do other various tasks, help run 12 the life cameras at the assemblies and such. 13 And then outside of roundup, which is 14 probably our biggest opportunity statewide to showcase 15 our skills, we're about a 20-person team. We also help 16 from local STEM camps and stuff all the way to national 17 level, like 4-H Congress, and the California State 18 Conference. Where we do basically what we did for 19 roundup for them, but with a much smaller team with like 20 three members to have to run newscasts and booths, and 21 all kind of things. 22 This year was especially challenging due to 23 the change in venues every single night. Typically they 24 were always at Reed Arena; now they were all over the 25 A&M campus. So that was a new challenge. But I think 68 1 we did pretty well in being able to get there, do the 2 cameras, boost newscasts. Do some bb editing from noon 3 all the way to 5:00 evening straight just for newscasts, 4 so there's a lot of work that went into it, and it was 5 quite fun, so -- 6 JUDGE KELLY: Congratulations. 7 MR. HALL: Yeah. And for my Education 8 Presentation, I presented on drones basically. And 9 yeah, I made it from district all the way up to state. 10 And this is my third year now going to state in 11 Educational Presentation. 12 MS. FIEDLER: And he placed fifth. 13 MR. HALL: Fifth. Yes, fifth overall. 14 MS. FIEDLER: And so I'm going to -- is it 15 okay if I tell about yours, or do you want to come up 16 and talk about it? 17 MS. SCALES: I can do it. 18 MS. FIEDLER: I'm going to let Lizzie 19 Scales. She had won more contest she participated in. 20 JUDGE KELLY: I can tell she's very shy. 21 MS. SCALES: So again, I'm Lizzie Scales. I 22 also competed in the educational presentation -- um, 23 competition. Sorry. I covered the importance of 24 bilingualism in mental health care. And I placed 25 seventh overall. 69 1 JUDGE KELLY: Congratulations to all of you. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well done. 3 MS. SMITH: So we just want to finish up by 4 saying thank you for letting us come in here and telling 5 you about what our kids are doing. They are -- have a 6 full summer ahead of them. We will be -- we've got a 7 couple that are attending the Y.A.L.L. Tour, which will 8 be going up into the Panhandle. 9 We do have some going to the C.O.R.E. 10 Academy, which is a new trip or -- well, it's similar to 11 the Y.A.L.L. Tour. The Y.A.L.L. Tour focuses on 12 agriculture side. The four academies focus on the FCH, 13 the Family Community Health, side of it. So we will be 14 going down to the Valley, taking some kids down there 15 this summer as well. 16 So we have a lot ahead of us and these kids 17 will be very busy this summer so we're really excited 18 about -- about what's going to happen. So thank y'all 19 again for having us. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Thank you. 21 JUDGE KELLY: And know that you're children 22 are always welcome here. 23 MS. SMITH: I appreciate that. Thank you 24 very much. 25 MS. FIEDLER: Before we go, could we come up 70 1 and take a picture? 2 JUDGE KELLY: Absolutely. 3 (Photograph taken.) 4 JUDGE KELLY: And 1.11 is to approve the 5 request for the Independent School District, led by Kerr 6 County 4-H AgriLife Extension office, for use of the 7 Hill Country Youth Event Center Show Barn annually in 8 December to hold their School livestock show. 9 MR. WILLIAMSON: So thanks for taking the 10 time today to discuss this. The district stock show has 11 been making some changes to their show, which they own 12 the rest of the Event Center for the month of January, 13 making it where the school shows typically that were 14 held in January need new dates. These dates have been 15 requested to be in December. We have the weekends 16 available. And this is something we want to add to 17 Court Order 31715 from May 10th of 2010, to protect some 18 annual dates for the school shows, as you will, and lead 19 into the district events in January. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So, Jake, this is for 21 the whole month of December? 22 MR. WILLIAMSON: We've left it vague in 23 December instead of trying to third weekend and fourth 24 weekend. We know they might fluctuate based on 25 Christmas dates and so we wanted to leave it vague but 71 1 it's in December and it'll be just one weekend each 2 year. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's school shows and 4 then you have the District and -- 5 MR. WILLIAMSON: Right. It'll now be school 6 shows, the county shows, the district. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Just like its been 8 having, KISD and West Kerr and -- 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. But what I'm 10 trying to understand is use of the facility, this says 11 for December. And then we got January. But -- so is 12 this for all of December and all of January? So what's 13 it for? 14 MR. WILLIAMSON: Just for one weekend in 15 December. We left it open-ended because we didn't want 16 to pick a weekend. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. For one -- for 18 one weekend. All right. Okay. But this -- so the 19 month of December. So it's for one weekend to be 20 determined? 21 MR. WILLIAMSON: To be determined if -- 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Gotcha. 23 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- if the Court would give 24 us the -- 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good enough. Good 72 1 enough. 2 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- authority to make sure 3 we coordinated with them if they're saying we're coming. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Very good. 5 Thanks. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: But this coming year, 7 is there any conflict of booking ahead of time or 8 anything? 9 MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, I had some holes. We 10 cleared those -- 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. 12 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- to allow this group, so 13 it is available and you can ask the Court to give them 14 permission to use it. 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. Well, I'll move 16 for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'll second that. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's made by 19 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 20 approve the use of the Hill Country Youth Event Center 21 Show Barn annually in December for one weekend, as I 22 understand it, for school shows. With that, is there 23 any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 24 Unanimous, four zero. Thank you. 25 Next housecleaning item is 1.12, which is to 73 1 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 2 the request from Spectra Venue Management to contract 3 with Kerr County 4-H on free use of the facility, plus 4 expenses incurred, during the approved use of the HCYEC 5 for the Annual School Livestock Show. And this is just 6 a monetary concession we make for the school for that 7 facility. Is that right? 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: Correct. So now we've 9 approved and given the 4-H some dates in December. 10 Those are dates we can no longer sell. We're based on 11 revenue and expenses out there. And so we want to ask 12 the Court how that's supposed to -- how it wants to 13 proceed with that. 14 4-H is given free use of the facility. Per 15 their contract, they're supposed to set up, tear down, 16 and clean up the barn. We don't think that was written 17 to include stock shows, in setting up pens, shavings 18 removal. Stuff like that doesn't necessarily fall 19 under, we would assume, 4-H's realm. Therefore, there's 20 costs incurred. 21 So we would ask the Court to discuss -- make 22 a judgment if those expenses are reimbursable. We know 23 that 4-H is County funded, Kerr County funded. It's 24 exchanging money in a different bucket or how that would 25 look to supplement our budget to cover those costs is 74 1 essentially why we're here. We haven't had a precedent 2 to set that. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Have you and 4-H worked 4 anything out on that? 5 MR. WILLIAMSON: We have not. Expenses are 6 unknown at this time. Basically because the timing of 7 those shows lead into County shows, therefore, we might 8 want, together with the shock show, the District show 9 and setup the entire show at once or piece -- and if 10 it's pieced out -- it's -- there's a lot of stuff to 11 figure out. 12 JUDGE KELLY: I understand. But what we've 13 already done -- I just want to make sure I understand -- 14 is that the schools are going to be able to use the 15 facility without charge, right? And that's -- and 16 that's part of our public service? 17 MR. WILLIAMSON: Yes. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Now what we're talking about 19 is there are going to be out-of-pocket expenses. And 20 Spectra is looking to -- 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Possibly. 22 JUDGE KELLY: -- get reimbursed for those? 23 MR. WILLIAMSON: Possibly. It's up to the 24 Court's decision because we're both funded by the 25 same -- 75 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I want to interrupt 2 everybody. When we say 4-H, I think we need to say 4-H 3 slash FFA with everything. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Because if I know the 6 schools, and especially FFA, provides a lot of the help, 7 set up, tear down. Just like when I was at Ingram as 8 the AG teacher, we used your facilities for free to have 9 a prospect show, which was a fundraiser for our chapter. 10 We would help set up the pens, help tear down the pens. 11 It didn't cost us anything. So I think we always -- 12 every time we mention this, we need to say 4-H slash FFA 13 to both the same. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. And I appreciate that 15 clarification. I think the public will appreciate that 16 as well. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I don't remember 18 ever -- you know, I -- I don't set up and tear down for 19 the entire time my kids were doing it. I don't remember 20 ever paying -- anybody being paid to do anything out 21 there. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Well, there -- I think what 23 we're talking about are Spectra out-of-pocket expenses. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Which is what? 25 MR. WILLIAMSON: The cost of trash removal, 76 1 shavings removal, labor, set up and tear down, restroom 2 attendance. All the -- 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: When you say set up and 4 tear down, you're talking about your employees, the -- 5 the employees at Spectrum that are on staff all the 6 time, or you're talking about calling somebody to come 7 in? 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: Some of these shows require 9 part-time staff as schedule dictates. So those are 10 unknowns. That's why if we -- we're going to contract 11 with 4-H, it would be based on each year could be 12 different, things like that. We can handle that 13 in-house, but you want to make sure to protect the 14 taxpayer or our budget that we are just -- if we are to 15 cover all those costs when we submit our budget each 16 year, those costs are going to be in the budget for our 17 hard cost of running the facility. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Well, Jake. I think -- I'm 19 just speaking for myself. This is something that as a 20 County, as the County government, we want to make happen 21 for FFA, 4-H and Spectra. And we understand that, you 22 know, this may be -- because we're changing how we've 23 been doing it in the past, this -- there may actually be 24 some out-of-pocket expenses incurred. 25 Would it be beneficial to -- for Spectra to 77 1 work with the FFA, 4-H groups, and -- and be able to 2 give us a little bit better definition as to what those 3 expenses may be, and come back to us when -- when you 4 know them, how -- what there's going to be and what you 5 can handle. We want to support it. And right now we're 6 not hearing exactly what specifically we would be 7 supporting. 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: Well, and that -- and not 9 quite -- to tell you the truth, we don't either. These 10 shows have always been set up by the stock show in the 11 past. The schools come in, the stock show took care of 12 them. They cleaned out their pens each show, each show 13 individually, and then they left. There was no tear 14 down. We don't know if that will work the same, if 15 things will be changed. So there's just some unknowns 16 going into it. They want to -- 17 JUDGE KELLY: And so the public understands 18 what we're really talking about here, in the past the 19 Stock Show Association took charge of the whole Youth 20 Event Center for the month of January. And that 21 included school shows and everything. 22 Now what we're doing is because they got -- 23 they control January, we're going back into December to 24 get the school shows. And so we had some unknowns that 25 we haven't done before, and we just want to make sure 78 1 you're covered. And we want -- and we want to do that. 2 But what I think is -- should you be -- work 3 with each other, kind of find out where you are, come 4 back to us when we know what we're looking at so we can 5 figure out how to help you. And what we want to tell 6 you is we want to help. 7 MR. WILLIAMSON: And I appreciate that. And 8 I want to make sure to also keep it as simple as 9 possible. We're dealing with three different schools. 10 My thought, my desire would be that if we can just 11 support this group and cover the cost ourselves, as long 12 as that's reflected in our budget, we can take care of 13 everything. That's all we want to make sure it's taken 14 care of because there's a lot of unknowns. And we need 15 to really nail that down each year. And -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: All I'm suggesting, Jake, is 17 if you hit snags that's what we're here for. 18 MR. WILLIAMSON: That's good. 19 JUDGE KELLY: And I know you're working with 20 different schools and -- and these are new moving parts 21 that we haven't done before, we don't know exactly how 22 it's all going to fit together, but what we want the FFA 23 and 4-H people to know and what we want you to know is, 24 we are here to support this and make it happen for our 25 kids. 79 1 MR. WILLIAMSON: That's all we can hope for. 2 We're appreciative of that support because that's how we 3 feel. And we run the venue as well. 4 JUDGE KELLY: So from the Court's viewpoint, 5 do we really need to take action today for something 6 that we don't really know how it's going to work yet? 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, what the Judge is 8 saying, if you get a commitment from the stock show 9 participants and Stock Show Association of what they'll 10 provide in terms of manpower, set up, tear down, so on, 11 you'll have a real good idea of what you might have to 12 supplement that with and if you -- if -- if need be and 13 come back. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And if it's pressing your 15 budget, let us know. 16 MR. WILLIAMSON: Yeah, that's -- and that's 17 all -- as long as we have that support, we're completely 18 okay with that. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So just come back when 20 you know. 21 MR. WILLIAMSON: Sure. We'll know after the 22 show. 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Ryan, do you have any 24 input? I see you're here. 25 MR. BAISER: Well, I was just going to -- 80 1 because of dates of how this was going and -- and kind 2 of what Jake was getting at, I -- 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Go ahead and introduce 4 yourself, Ryan. 5 MR. BAISER: I'm Ryan Baiser. I'm the 6 AG Science Teacher at Center Point. We've kind of been 7 heading this deal and we saw the problem and what -- 8 that was going to happen when we pushed the County show 9 back, our school shows and with the 4-H kind of pushed 10 us into the month of December. 11 Well, because of State dates, because the 12 mandate dates for testing, that's the week before the 13 date that we're looking at to have the show. So as far 14 as setting up pens and getting everything set up for our 15 school shows, which we've always done in the past, 16 getting kids there, that's not going to happen this year 17 because of the testing dates and everything that are on 18 there. 19 And if we set those pens up weeks in 20 advance, that takes more time away from Spectrum to be 21 able to utilize the facility as far as to get funds that 22 way. So that's kind of where Jake is getting at. I 23 understand where y'all are at, too. But we're in an 24 unknown right now. We're -- we don't know exactly where 25 we're going to be so. 81 1 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and -- and we are, too. 2 MR. BAISER: Yes, sir. 3 JUDGE KELLY: And what we're doing is we're 4 supportive of all the groups here. We want y'all to 5 work together and figure out the best way to do this and 6 then when you see how it's going to impact you, come 7 back and talk to us for help. 8 MR. BAISER: Sure. Thank you. 9 JUDGE KELLY: So no action on that at this 10 time? 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I don't think so. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you. 13 Next, I'm going to call items 1.14, 1.15, 14 1.16, and 1.17 at this time. And Sheriff, we'll go 15 through each one of these gifts that have been made to 16 the Sheriff's Department. Sheriff Leitha. 17 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yeah. 1.14 through 1.17 18 are donations for the Special Response Team we're 19 putting together, so I'm just looking for y'all's 20 approval today. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 23 JUDGE KELLY: And this is move for approval 24 on 14, 15, 16, and 17, correct? 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yes. 82 1 JUDGE KELLY: And these are just accepting 2 gifts for your Special Response Team? 3 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yes, sir. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we have a motion 5 made by Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner 6 Harris, to approve these gifts and receive them for the 7 Sheriff's Department. Any discussion? Those in favor 8 raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 9 SHERIFF LEITHA: Thank y'all. 10 JUDGE KELLY: That was a tough one. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I want you to know that 12 this $500 donation from Kerrville Physical Therapy, I 13 helped pay for that. 14 SHERIFF LEITHA: And we really appreciate 15 it. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: My -- my medical 17 insurance. No, I paid the deductible. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Call Item 1.18 consider, 19 discuss and take appropriate action to accept the 20 Emergency Services District No. 1 compilation report for 21 10/01/2019 through 9/30/2020. Commissioner Harris. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: ESD's are -- either 23 have an audit or a compilation report, and they've done 24 this, and it's in your backup material. And so I move 25 for approval. It's kind of a routine deal every year. 83 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 3 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 4 approve the compilation report of ESD 1 for the last 5 fiscal year. 6 For those in the public that don't 7 understand that this is an audit, I will defer to our 8 auditor, but audits are a very thorough review of the 9 books and records and there is an actual certification 10 of the process at the end. A compilation is where you 11 take the customer, in this case the ESD numbers, their 12 information, and you compile it in acceptable format but 13 it is not a formal audit. 14 It is -- if you just think of it as the 15 platinum standard is a certified audit, then compilation 16 is just below that but it's good enough for the ESD's in 17 being able to present their financial situation to us. 18 And we went through this process a few years back when 19 the last Auditor passed away. So this has been a 20 practice that we do routinely to make it a little bit 21 easier and more cost effective to them because the 22 audits are very expensive and compilations are not quite 23 as. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Question. In reading 25 the report by the Auditor, there seems to be a lot of 84 1 concern in the letter. Okay. So do we just accept 2 something where a person who performed the compilation 3 report's got a lot of concerns? 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It was done late, 5 wasn't it? Wasn't that the problem? 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No, I'm talking about 7 tech -- 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: There was -- I can 9 tell you, there was one -- okay. We had a changeover in 10 Treasurers in ESD 1. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And the -- the 13 thing -- they had one month out of a whole year that was 14 the old Treasurer, and that's where the different system 15 of keeping books and stuff was done, and that was the 16 only concern. But they were fine with it. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But there were more 18 concerns than that in the letter. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It's all been resolved. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, it didn't say so 21 in the letter. That's -- my question is, if they got a 22 lot of concerns, do we just accept their report with 23 their concerns or what do we do? 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Tanya, I'll refer to 25 you. 85 1 MRS. SHELTON: I would probably defer to the 2 County Attorney. I mean, it's their -- the 3 responsibility in the regulation is that they turn in -- 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: The report. 5 MRS. SHELTON: -- the compilation report to 6 us, and that's fulfilling what I believe -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So we accept the report 8 but there were issues, then that's a separate -- 9 separate subject? 10 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that right? 12 JUDGE KELLY: Whether or not we accept the 13 report is discretionary with the Court. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and if we want to have 16 remedial action or a plan of action on that part to -- 17 to address the concern we can do that. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that would be -- 19 our -- our County Auditor would do that? 20 MRS. SHELTON: I don't know that that's 21 right. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or the County Attorney 23 or -- well, there's a lot of concerns, so we -- what do 24 we do with those concerns? 25 MRS. SHELTON: The County Auditor is not 86 1 going to have any responsibility for this. That's -- 2 they use an outside firm, which is what they should be 3 doing. And so I -- I don't know if their board looked 4 at the letter and addressed the letter. It would really 5 be a question, I would think, to their board at this 6 point. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what we're -- I'm 8 confused about we're -- we're accepting a report that's 9 got concerns in it, so do we just ignore it? What -- 10 what do we accept? 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, do you have a 12 concern? The question -- look, we are our entity, 13 another entity can have their concerns. If we accept 14 it, then we've accepted it. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The Independent Auditor 16 has a concern. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So we just -- 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: The Independent Auditor 20 can pursue it, but for our purposes, we can accept or 21 reject it regardless. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The Independent Auditor 23 doesn't pursue it. She just reports. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: All right. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what do we do with 87 1 this report? 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Then the ESD Board 3 adopted it. Concerning -- 4 JUDGE KELLY: I can speak to what we do in 5 the courtroom -- 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 7 JUDGE KELLY: -- when we get a certified 8 audit. When we get a certified audit, the Auditor comes 9 in there and tells us how the financial operations of 10 the company or the entity is being run. If they're 11 concerned about it, they identify their concerns. It's 12 presented to manage the board of directors. I've served 13 on dozens of these boards. And what you do is you -- 14 you review it and at that time, if you're -- you want 15 to -- you feel like it's something that needs to be 16 addressed or if the Auditor's telling you it needs to be 17 addressed -- 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 19 JUDGE KELLY: -- then you turn to management 20 and say, is the management going to correct these 21 deficiencies or management going to address these 22 concerns? And then you get the representation back from 23 management that has to do with what remedial actions 24 were taken to respond to the audit. And that's what the 25 shareholders in the company expect. That's what the 88 1 stakeholders or non-profits expect to see. Are we 2 making sure that the company is being run according to 3 generally accepted accounting principles. 4 And -- and a compilation, as I said, is a 5 step down from that. The statute, I believe, and I'll 6 defer to our County Attorney on this. I think the 7 statute only requires that they submit the compilation 8 to us. And then it says and accepted by us. I think 9 that's the extent to -- 10 MS. STEBBINS: I'm reading. I'll tell ya. 11 JUDGE KELLY: That they submit the 12 compilation. And so ESD 1 has met their obligation at 13 this point to present that compilation to us so that we 14 know how their financial operations are being conducted. 15 It now falls to us on how we respond to that. And I 16 think what the statute says, and I'm not going to put 17 words in anybody's mouth because that's -- Ms. Stebbins 18 is looking it up. But I think what -- what the statute 19 contemplates is that we accept that compilation. Which 20 means that we are -- whether we have raised eyebrows or 21 not, we are accepting their practice. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I agree. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, let me read 24 something out of the letter. Okay. This is from -- 25 and I -- management has elect -- management, I guess 89 1 that's the ESD -- 2 JUDGE KELLY: That's right. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- has elected to omit 4 substantially all disclosures required by accounting 5 principles generally accepted by the United States of 6 America. If omitted disclosures were included in the 7 final statement, they may influence the user's 8 conclusions about the District's financial position, 9 result of operation or cash flows. Accordingly, the 10 financial statements are not designed to be for those 11 who are not informed by such matters. 12 And then the last sentence says we're not -- 13 we have not audited or reviewed required supplemental 14 information and do not express an opinion or combine any 15 acceptance on such information. So I don't know what -- 16 what we're accepting. 17 MRS. SHELTON: That is a common phrase that 18 is used in every compilation. 19 JUDGE KELLY: The last sentence. Let's 20 clarify. The last sentence in there. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 22 JUDGE KELLY: You see that in every 23 compilation report. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. So I 25 accept that. But this other the second paragraph I just 90 1 read sounds to me like there's -- somebody's got to take 2 some action somewhere. 3 MRS. SHELTON: No, sir. That's just saying 4 that there's -- there's specific notes that if you were 5 doing a full blown compilation, if you were doing a full 6 audit -- and a full blown compilation is not the right 7 word. But if you were -- you could add much more notes 8 to the back that say it's a non-profit organization, 9 here's all the X, Y and Z. You've got accounts 10 receivables. Here's all of the amounts that are due and 11 when they're due. 12 So when we get our County's audit, it has 13 all of those footnotes to it. So that somebody off -- 14 anywhere can grab it and if they want to know more about 15 what accounts receivable are, they can go back to the 16 note, that it's in the notes section of the report. 17 All this is saying is the compilation 18 doesn't have all of the notes. It's -- it -- I would -- 19 as a CPA, I would not be alarmed by the statement you 20 just read. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: As an engineer I'm 22 alarmed. 23 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes. And they're just 24 required to file it with y'all. 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. So we accept it 91 1 and we're -- we're not on the hook for anything. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I would be more 3 concerned with it in years past. I was at the EFC board 4 meeting when this was presented to the whole board by 5 the Treasurer and his statement was that this firm was 6 so glad that they'd gone to a new bookkeeping system, 7 that -- over what they'd done in the past, that they had 8 rave reviews for this year's bookkeeping facts that they 9 gave them. So anyway. 10 MRS. STEBBINS: And they also have to file 11 it with TDEM. They're -- this is one of the steps they 12 have to follow. 13 JUDGE KELLY: So we have a motion and a 14 second? 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Uh-huh. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? Those 17 in favor raise your hand. 18 (Commissioners Belew and Harris raised 19 hand.) 20 JUDGE KELLY:those opposed raise your hand. 21 Those abstain raise your hand. 22 (Commissioner Moser and Judge Kelly raised 23 hand.) 24 JUDGE KELLY: It passes, two -- two, zero, 25 two. 92 1 MRS. STEBBINS: I don't know that it does -- 2 I think you have to have a majority. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No. The people that 4 abstain are not voting. 5 MRS. STEBBINS: Well, exactly. So you don't 6 have three. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You've got to have a 8 majority for who's here. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No. That -- that's 10 not -- we went through this before. And if you abstain 11 then you're not voting. 12 MRS. STEBBINS: Right. 13 JUDGE KELLY: You're not a voter. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So we had -- 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You still have to have 16 a majority. 17 MRS. STEBBINS: Right. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Who is that majority? 19 There's four people here. 20 MRS. STEBBINS: Whether this formality is 21 required, I'm not sure. It just says that the ESD has 22 to file with the Commissioners' Court of the County 23 that -- that the district is in. So whether y'all 24 accept it or not, I don't know that that's absolutely a 25 requirement. I'd have to look. But they've -- I mean, 93 1 they've given it to you. They're filing it. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, they presented 3 it. They've presented their obligation. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Well, just so that -- so that 5 the public knows, because these are compilations, they 6 are audits. And when we have reservations expressed, I 7 view it as intuitively incumbent on the party presenting 8 the financials to explain them to us. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 10 JUDGE KELLY: And I have -- a Commissioner 11 has said things to me that he's got questions about this 12 and I don't think his concerns are inappropriate. I 13 suspect everything's fine. I have every reason to think 14 they're fine. But this is a compilation, and I 15 understand that the final accounting information that's 16 provided to our Auditor may have all the footnote 17 information here, but it's not in what we have. So 18 that's -- 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well stated. 20 JUDGE KELLY: So I don't know where we 21 stand. I guess nothing happens at this point. No 22 action taken? 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: County Attorney, let 24 me know where we stand. 25 MRS. STEBBINS: Oh. Let me look up the 94 1 rules about the abstention. So two voted -- two voted, 2 both of them voted for it, two abstained. Let me look 3 up the rules. 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We had this happen once 5 before. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We did. And it was 7 the -- 8 JUDGE KELLY: And what happened was that it 9 changed the outcome -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 11 JUDGE KELLY: -- because the abstentions 12 were counted as a non-vote. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 14 JUDGE KELLY: You know, they're not counted 15 at all. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So it's as if they 17 weren't here and you have a unanimous vote. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, but the issue that I see 19 here is -- 20 MRS. STEBBINS: We have one more than -- 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So is that a three vote 22 thing? 23 JUDGE KELLY: It is. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I thought it was a two 25 vote thing that -- 95 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Why don't we come back 2 to this issue and move on. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Maybe we need to reconsider 4 this when we have another Commissioner present. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or we can come back -- 6 yeah. That would be good. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, I'm looking for 8 what the County Attorney says. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, what I'd suggest 10 is why don't -- while the County Attorney's looking, we 11 can move on the agenda. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. Sure. So we'll pass 13 this for right now and come back, if needed, and move on 14 to item 1.19 consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 action to approve the renewal of the Texas Association 16 of Counties Health and Employees Benefit Pool medical 17 and dental plan for Fiscal Year 21-22 for employees and 18 retirees. Ms. Doss. 19 MS. DOSS: Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. 20 It's that time of year again. And there was an increase 21 this year of 5.5 percent, but I'd like to point out that 22 last year there was a decrease of two percent for 23 medical. And so technically, if you go back two years 24 it's only five and a half percent. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Jennifer, could you 96 1 speak up a little louder? I'm sorry. What was the -- 2 MS. DOSS: Sorry. The increase this year is 3 five and a half percent. But last year we had a two and 4 a half percent decrease. So if you go back two years, 5 it's only -- 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's a 50 percent 7 increase? 8 MS. DOSS: Yeah. If you go back two years. 9 So -- because we had a decrease last year. But in order 10 to maintain -- based on the June elections of employees, 11 the increase in cost for the County to absorb all 12 difference is about $207,504. But I would also like to 13 point out that we do have the addition of 20 new 14 employees -- or 20 additional employees this fiscal year 15 compared to last fiscal year. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So is that included in 17 the 207,000? 18 MS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 20 MS. DOSS: So based on current elections 21 done in June, it'll cost the County $207,000. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this is a lot of 23 data that you've presented here. Okay. Do we need to 24 look at this in any more depth? I -- you know, because 25 I looked at it and I can't comprehend it all, you know, 97 1 that quickly. Say yay verily or what, so -- 2 MRS. DOSS: Do you have a question? I mean, 3 based on the pool there was a lot -- there was much more 4 activity in the entire pool over all the counties. So 5 it's not just Kerr County, it's the whole entire pool 6 that had more expenses this last year. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 8 MRS. DOSS: And so they divvy it up based 9 on -- 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And so this will be for 11 next year, correct? 12 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this will be part -- 14 considered part of our budget process? 15 MRS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So what we're 17 approving today, what is being asked for approval, is to 18 move forward with this in our budget process. Okay? 19 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. And the cost 21 increase is because of activity around -- all over the 22 state for this -- 23 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And we got additional 25 employees? 98 1 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Gotcha. Okay. Good. 3 MRS. DOSS: And if we would like to continue 4 the current level of deductions for employees only -- 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 6 MRS. DOSS: -- at all levels -- 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And we could -- we 8 could say yes or no as far as the budget process. 9 MRS. DOSS: But we have to renew this 10 package. It's due by June 30th. 11 JUDGE KELLY: This is renewing the -- the 12 same benefit package we've had in years before. 13 MRS. DOSS: Correct. It's all been done 14 before. 15 JUDGE KELLY: For the next fiscal year. 16 MRS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So if we get in the 18 budget and we say, oops, we need to find $207,000, what 19 can we do? Can we -- can we change it at that time -- 20 MRS. DOSS: No. We renew -- 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- or we -- we can't? 22 MRS. DOSS: -- we renew based on these rates 23 and we -- 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. So this -- this 25 would be locked into the budget? 99 1 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So a $207,000 increase, 3 what percentage increase is that? Is that five percent? 4 MRS. DOSS: Well, the rates are two and a 5 half -- or five and a half percent increase. So based 6 on current elections, that's what it would cost the 7 County if we'd like to keep the deductions to the 8 employees the same. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. Gotcha. 10 MRS. DOSS: We could pass some of the 11 expense on to the employees, but I know in the past 12 y'all have tried to maintain the level that we -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- sure. 14 MRS. DOSS: -- have now. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. Thank 16 you. 17 MRS. DOSS: Okay. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Jennifer, what -- what is the 19 deadline to get this in, compared to going through our 20 budget process? 21 MRS. DOSS: June 30th. 22 JUDGE KELLY: June 30th? 23 MRS. DOSS: Yes. 24 JUDGE KELLY: So that's got to be done 25 before we complete our budget work? 100 1 MRS. DOSS: Yes. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. 3 MRS. DOSS: And we -- we did get the packet 4 rather late, later than we normally get so. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I can tell you 7 that we have a very good benefit package. Maybe our pay 8 scale -- maybe we kind of pinch pennies sometimes in 9 places and stuff but -- 10 JUDGE KELLY: I feel vindicated on our 11 salary study. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well -- exactly. 13 I'm -- I mean but -- 14 JUDGE KELLY: I'm impressed with that. 15 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: -- we have lost a few 16 employees to outside of -- I was talking to Reagan this 17 morning. He's lost one to -- a couple of employees that 18 went -- found higher paying jobs. But -- 19 JUDGE KELLY: It wasn't in San Antonio. 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Exactly. But they're 21 not going to beat our benefits package. 22 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: So I'm always in favor 24 of it. 25 MRS. DOSS: This is -- we have a very good 101 1 package and IT seems to be competitive. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: But you're right -- 3 MRS. DOSS: This is a -- 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: -- on our wage 5 scale -- 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I'll -- I'll move 7 for approval for renewal of the TAC, Texas Association 8 of Health and -- Health and Employee Benefits Pool 9 medical and dental plan for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 for 10 the employees and retirees for Kerr County. 11 JUDGE KELLY: There's a motion. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Motion by Commissioner Moser, 14 seconded by Commissioner Harris to approve the medical 15 and dental plan for Fiscal Year '21-'22, with the Texas 16 Association of Counties Health and Employee Benefits 17 pool. Any discussion? 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Depending on the price 19 tag here, we're going to have to decide -- 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah. Right. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- whether we -- the 22 County carries all this or the employees carry part of 23 it. Is that what we're talking about? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. This is -- 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Is that the only option 102 1 or are we locking ourselves in? 2 JUDGE KELLY: We're locking ourselves in if 3 we approve this today. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: We're locking ourselves 5 in. 6 JUDGE KELLY: For that -- for that -- not 7 for the following year. But it would lock us into this 8 budget year. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This basically is to 10 cover for all the catastrophic stuff that we've had this 11 last year? 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's health and dental. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I know. That's all it 14 is. Health and dental. So that shouldn't really change 15 much. 16 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Five percent. 17 JUDGE KELLY: This pandemic year was more 18 expensive. I mean, that's what we're all saying. It 19 dropped the year before and it's up this year. It's 20 just based on losses. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And it's -- it gives 22 us -- I mean, this is -- the benefits package is 23 consistent, as Commissioner Harris is saying, consistent 24 in the past, it's gone up a bit this year. So as far as 25 the budget process, you know, if we approve this then 103 1 we've got -- if we shortfall then we have to look at 2 something else in the budget to offset what this 3 increase is. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Absolutely. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So that's summary. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, there's going to 7 be some pretty big additional expenses -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- in areas like IT, for 10 example. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Right. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Big expenses. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. But she -- we 14 need to do this by June 30th. 15 MRS. DOSS: So Tanya was pointing out that 16 across the entire pool of Texas Association of Counties, 17 the average increase is seven and a half percent. The 18 highest was 13 percent. So compared to the average, 19 we're doing a lot better. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. 21 JUDGE KELLY: But if we approve this today, 22 then that's it. We can't do anything else about it. 23 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 24 JUDGE KELLY: And what's our option if we 25 don't approve it? What happens? 104 1 MRS. DOSS: Well, we have to approve 2 something. So if you don't like the additional cost of 3 the 207,000 then we could talk about increasing the 4 employees' deduction. Offset the two of them. 5 JUDGE KELLY: But that has to be done before 6 June 30th? 7 MRS. DOSS: Correct. And I usually hate to 8 see that happen. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, so the only thing 10 I -- my thought coming in here is -- is we need to study 11 this more to maybe have a small group study. But in 12 light of what Jennifer said and Tanya said, I'm okay 13 with it. It's an increase. I mean, there's a lot of 14 inflation going on in this doggone place -- 15 MRS. DOSS: Right. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Who would have thought 17 medical would go up, huh? 18 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. Who'd have 19 thunk? 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Right. 21 MRS. DOSS: And along with this packet -- 22 and I made this mistake last year. Along with this 23 packet it's -- there's also updates in the healthy 24 wellness contact association that was -- I changed that 25 last year. So this year's it -- we had the retirement 105 1 of the assistant person for the wellness program. I'd 2 like to change the contact information to include Nataly 3 Torres as the new contact for health wellness, along 4 with Tracy and Dawn. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Is that another agenda 6 item? 7 MRS. DOSS: It's in the packet. It's in the 8 health and benefits pool packet. 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I remember being 10 flabbergasted about a year ago when she told us that it 11 went down two and a half percent. 12 MRS. DOSS: Right. That never happens. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. Health 14 insurance goes down? So -- 15 MRS. DOSS: And the other part of this last 16 thing that's in this proposal for your approval is that 17 we would like to continue the same CSI, the annual 18 physical and healthy county contest for one personal day 19 off. So if you -- if you -- I'm sorry, where was I 20 headed? It just escaped me. If you complete three out 21 of four of the County contests doing your steps for the 22 day and you turn in an annual evaluation, that makes you 23 eligible for a paid day off the following year. 24 And that's what we've had the last several 25 years and that's part of this packet is also approving 106 1 that for next year. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We've got all those 3 things included in this one chunk of agenda item -- 4 MRS. DOSS: Correct. 5 JUDGE KELLY: -- and we've not had any 6 workshop to be able to discuss any of the component 7 parts of this proposal. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You've got to vote on 9 it. 10 JUDGE KELLY: I know. I -- I understand. 11 But I'm just saying that's where we are this year. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's where we are. 13 JUDGE KELLY: I'm not sure this is the same 14 way I want to approach it next year. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Why are we getting this 16 so late? 17 MRS. DOSS: We just received it. You know, 18 with court every 2nd and 4th, this is the first time I 19 could get it on the agenda from when we received it. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Oh. 21 MRS. DOSS: And I -- I did share it with you 22 all -- as soon as I received it, I forwarded it to you. 23 Or e-mailed it to you. I mean, if you'd rather not 24 focus or approve the paid day off, you know, the 25 employee incentive program for the wellness -- in the 107 1 wellness coordinated time, in fact, if we just look at 2 the health and general, I'm just saying that that's part 3 of this renewal packet. I could hold off on those until 4 later. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Well, but what I'm -- what I'm 6 saying, Ms. Doss, is there should be separate agenda 7 items for each one of these things and not all rolled 8 into one package that we've not focused on. 9 MS. DOSS: Okay. 10 JUDGE KELLY: So what the public is watching 11 us do today and has to make a decision is do we go ahead 12 and adopt the same benefits packages for our employees 13 as we had last year -- 14 MS. DOSS: Correct. 15 JUDGE KELLY: -- even though it's going to 16 cost us $207,000 more, without having the opportunity to 17 discuss through a workshop these individual components 18 have have gone into a very comprehensive agenda item 19 that, quite frankly, I plead that I'm moderately 20 unprepared for. 21 MRS. DOSS: Okay. 22 JUDGE KELLY: But I understand where we are. 23 And I understand the importance of the benefits package. 24 And even though, you know, I look at $207,000 and I'm 25 not sure exactly where we're going to get that money, 108 1 it's just an issue that we're going to have to address 2 but we're not going to have the luxury of being able to 3 address it individually with regard to this policy 4 because we didn't get it earlier. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And the way I looked at 6 it is, do we keep the same benefits package? Okay. 7 JUDGE KELLY: I think we do keep the same 8 benefits package. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. And if we do 10 that, it's going to cost us $207,000 more and we need to 11 look at that as part of our budget process. 12 MRS. DOSS: And -- 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And that decision needs 14 to be made by June 30th. 15 MRS. DOSS: -- and we do have 20 additional 16 employees this year, so that's -- 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 18 MRS. DOSS: -- part of the increase. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So my motion is still 20 the same. 21 JUDGE KELLY: And I still support keeping 22 the benefits the same. I'm just frustrated with the way 23 that we're doing it. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 109 1 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I'm -- I merely 2 expressed my professional displeasure so that we can 3 avoid this kind of situation next year. 4 MRS. DOSS: So hopefully in the future next 5 year we'll get it a little sooner and we can have a 6 workshop. What you're saying -- what I'm hearing is 7 that you prefer a workshop before -- 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 9 MRS. DOSS: -- to discuss the increase and 10 then come back to Court for the actual approval. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Correct. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? Those 13 in favor of the motion raise your hand. 14 (Judge Kelly and Commissioners Moser and 15 Harris raised their hand.) 16 JUDGE KELLY: Those opposed. 17 (Commissioner Belew raised his hand.) 18 JUDGE KELLY: Three to one, it passes. 19 MRS. DOSS: Thank you. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.20 consider, discuss 21 and take appropriate action to approve the holiday and 22 payroll schedule for the Fiscal Year 2021-2022. 23 Ms. Doss. 24 MRS. DOSS: Yes, sir. The holiday 25 schedule, we have the same number of holidays proposed 110 1 for '21 and '22 as we did for the current fiscal year. 2 We have several -- we have Christmas falls on a 3 Saturday, and it's -- January 1st, New Year's holiday 4 falls on Saturday as well. So in both of those cases, 5 where it encompasses the Friday and Monday. Well, if 6 it's a Friday or a Monday before and after and then the 7 Friday before the Saturday, New Year's Day. But it's 8 the same number of holidays that we had last year. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Move for 10 approval. 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 13 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 14 approve the holiday and payroll schedule for Fiscal Year 15 '21-'22. Any other discussion? Those in favor raise 16 your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 17 MRS. DOSS: Thank you. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Item one point -- thank you, 19 Ms. Doss. 20 MRS. DOSS: Thank you. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.21 consider, discuss 22 and take appropriate action to address merit pay for 23 Fiscal Year '19-'20 budget year. Commissioner Belew. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. This was 25 originally, I think, Commissioner Moser's suggestion, 111 1 and then we decided because we had all of the -- 2 everybody out for the virus scare, and everybody was 3 working from home and it's not a usual fiscal year and 4 we were just going to trash can the thing. And decided 5 to go ahead because we had told the employees that they 6 would get merit pay in some way, shape or form and the 7 problems with implementation was the thing. 8 There are departments that have only one 9 person or two people in it. And so we decided that 10 while it was a good idea, a good intention, it was hard 11 to implement. So in order to not break faith with 12 County employees and to disburse the money that was 13 already budgeted, I'm proposing that we distribute it to 14 everybody who had been submitted for merit pay, which 15 was a total of 273 people, which is a majority of 16 employees and it comes down to about $151. Is that 17 right, MRS. SHELTON. 18 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So -- per person. So 20 this is something that really goes against my grain and 21 my inner being, everybody gets a trophy. But it is a 22 way to put this to rest, to not break faith with County 23 employees, and to use the money that we'd already 24 budgeted for them. So that's my recommendation, that we 25 distribute the money to the 273 employees who applied 112 1 for merit pay or were submitted for merit pay by their 2 supervisors and then move forward with figuring out 3 another way to do something like this. You know, 4 Commissioner Moser was trying to -- well, you can tell 5 them what you were trying to do. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I was trying 7 to -- when we talked about this a couple years ago was 8 to recognize above and beyond, okay, and that's -- 9 that's what I still -- and I think earlier I said -- we 10 were asked -- we're looking to pay -- for merit pay for 11 employees above and beyond but we're asking, you know, 12 citizens who are out of work, they're paying their 13 taxes, to contribute for our above and beyond, so my -- 14 my thought was -- my recommendation -- I can't remember 15 exactly what was said, but was to defer merit pay this 16 year based on the unusual circumstances. 17 A lot of people in the County, and I didn't 18 know anything about merit pay, let's just give it to 19 everybody in the County. Did every supervisor 20 recommend -- 21 MRS. DOSS: No, sir. These -- this is -- 22 the 273, that's based on active full-time employees that 23 would be eligible. Not including Elected Officials or 24 our departments that are paid through the State. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So if we take our merit 113 1 pay and just distribute it to everybody? 2 MS. DOSS: To all full-time active. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But is -- was that a 4 request from supervisors to do that? 5 MS. DOSS: No. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: No. 7 MS. DOSS: Nobody requested that. That's 8 just what we based it on. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This has been dangling 10 out -- hanging out there. Nobody's come up with a 11 better way to distribute it. And -- 12 MRS. DOSS: Well, can -- can -- 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: -- so here's what we 14 do, we either say no and take it off the table or do it 15 this way. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I -- I can 17 remember agreeing with Commissioner Moser that there's 18 people out in the community hurting and they see us 19 doing this, giving above and beyond, so I -- I agree 20 with Commissioner Moser to defer it until a later date. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, no one -- none of 22 our employees were without their pay -- 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Exactly. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: -- during this whole 25 thing. Okay. And this is not above and beyond. Okay? 114 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So what my -- my motion 2 is that we -- well, here's what I want to -- I -- before 3 I get to that. That we decide today whether we're going 4 to do this or not. Because that could be considered 5 under this agenda item. Or we just be done with it or 6 disburse the funds this way because nobody's come up 7 with a better way to disburse the funds. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: This is just for one 9 year. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This is just for one 11 year. And then we're going to have to move forward 12 without this merit pay. Because it's too hard to 13 implement it. And if you get into the nuts and bolts of 14 how to apply, it's too hard to implement. But this is 15 an easy way to do this, to clear the deck, I think. I 16 mean something needs to be done one way or the other. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: For the year -- for the 18 year 2019-20 only. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's my suggestion. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER. Good. Okay. 21 JUDGE KELLY: And just to clarify, we did 22 not pay that money out during that fiscal year. It's 23 still in our fund balance and it just hasn't been spent 24 at this time. 25 MRS. SHELTON: This is money that was 115 1 budgeted for this current year. 2 JUDGE KELLY: For this current year? 3 MRS. SHELTON: This current year. Yes. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. It says 19 -- 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It actually -- 6 JUDGE KELLY: It was for -- it would have 7 been for year end 2020. And we were going to do it in 8 December and we didn't. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. And it got 11 carried over. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Got it carried over the first 13 of the year and then COVID hit and we had a train 14 wreck. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So it's been -- it's 16 been dragging on for a long time. I'd just like to do 17 something with it. 18 JUDGE KELLY: So what I'm trying to get 19 clarification from our Auditor is because that money 20 should have been paid out by year end 2020. That's what 21 we had originally planned. And I'm not sure there's an 22 obligation to do it at that point but that's what is in 23 that fiscal year budget. 24 MRS. SHELTON: That is what the policy said. 25 The money was budgeted in the 2021 year budget that we 116 1 are in right now. So it's like we're talking policy one 2 way and we're talking budget another way. 3 JUDGE KELLY: And how much money do we have 4 in that account? 5 MRS. SHELTON: 50,000. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It's $50,000. 7 JUDGE KELLY: 50,000. And we either 8 distribute that 50 or if we don't distribute it, what 9 happens to that $50,000? 10 MRS. SHELTON: It will go back into fund 11 balance. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Which would help pay 13 for what we were talking about a moment ago. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: The $207,000. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, but -- well, I look back 17 on the Coronavirus somewhat like a year from hell. But 18 in any event, it's almost like a portion of the year a 19 lot of things that we would normally do that we couldn't 20 do and this is something that got caught in the ballast. 21 I think I'm inclined just to leave that money in the 22 fund balance so that we can work with the funds as 23 constructively as possible for the benefit of the public 24 and for our employees. 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I agree. 117 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Agreed. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So that would be my motion. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'll second that 4 motion. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. I made a motion, 6 seconded by Commissioner Belew to address the merit pay 7 for Fiscal Year '19-'20 by just leaving it alone for the 8 time being and leaving it into a ride over to the fund 9 balance. Any discussion? Those in favor raise your 10 hand. Unanimous. Tough decision, but gotta do 11 something. Thank you, Commissioner Belew. We needed to 12 address that. 13 Item 1.22 consider, discuss and take -- 14 I'll tell you what. It's a little bit -- about 12 15 minutes after 11:00. Let's take a five minute break and 16 come back. Because we're going to wear people out on 17 this thing. 18 (Break.) 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We'll come back to 20 order. It's a longer morning than we expected. Please 21 be patient with us. 22 Next two items, I think we'll have 23 Ms. Hoffer. We're going to call 1.22, which is to 24 consider, discuss and take appropriate action for 25 Commissioners' Court to accept the General Contract for 118 1 a Small Project with Cypress Roofing to replace ten 2 fiberglass skylights in the Road & Bridge mechanics 3 shop. Ms. Hoffer. 4 MS. HOFFER: I have before you a General 5 Contract with Cypress Roofing to replace ten fiberglass 6 skylights in the Road & Bridge Mechanic Shop. When the 7 weather is cold and all of the shop doors are down, the 8 old discolored skylights no longer allow much light to 9 come into the shop. We have lighting in the shop and we 10 have added additional lighting, but it's still very dark 11 in the shop on rainy days and winter months when the 12 doors are closed. 13 I have attached the General Contract with 14 Cypress Roofing, certificate of insurance, and the quote 15 from Cypress Roofing in the amount of 3,700 and no 16 cents. 17 At this time, I ask the Commissioners' Court 18 for their approval for the General Contract with Cypress 19 Roofing to replace ten fiberglass skylights in the 20 mechanics shop at the Road & Bridge Department in the 21 amount of $3,700.00 in Precincts 1, 2, 3, 4. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Kelly, what did you say 23 about insurance? 24 MS. HOFFER: Proof of insurance from the 25 vendor. They have to show proof of insurance. 119 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But was there an 2 insurance claim? 3 MS. HOFFER: No. No. 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So they're -- 5 MS. HOFFER: They're just old. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So it doesn't have 7 anything to do with insurance? 8 MS. HOFFER: No. No, I just put in the 9 packet the proof of insurance from the Cypress Roofing 10 Company. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, It's proof of 12 insurance from Cypress. Oh, okay. 13 MS. HOFFER: Yes. They have to prove to the 14 County that they have -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, okay. Gotcha. I'm 16 sorry. 17 MS. HOFFER: -- minimum allowable -- 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: I was confused. This 19 is Cypress Roofing proof of insurance. 20 MS. HOFFER: Yes. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. That's fine. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Move for approval. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 25 Commissioner Belew, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 120 1 approve the proposed contract with Cypress Roofing for 2 the Road & Bridge mechanics shop. Any other discussion? 3 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 4 Item 1.23 consider, discuss and take 5 appropriate action for the Commissioners' Court approval 6 to accept the General Contract for a Small Project with 7 Texas Site Services, LLC, to sweep and vacuum seven 8 County-maintained roads with concrete curbing. This is 9 in Precincts 2, 3, and 4. Ms. Hoffer. 10 MS. HOFFER: I have before you a General 11 Contract with Texas Site Services, LLC to sweep/vacuum 12 seven county-maintained roads that have concrete 13 curbing. Almost all of our roads do not have concrete 14 curbing so when we sweep with the sweepers that we have, 15 minus a vacuum set up, we sweep the rock off the road 16 after a fresh seal coat. 17 With concrete curbing, there's nowhere for 18 you to sweep it off the road so it's stuck between those 19 two concrete curbs. And it makes it very difficult. 20 It's a lot of hand shoveling and most of the time you 21 don't get all of the loose back up. 22 We have three roads, I think, next week 23 they're planning on seal coating in Castlecomb. And we 24 have two in Silver -- I think it's Silver Saddle, is 25 that the name of it, on Town Creek Road. 121 1 MR. HASTINGS: Uh-huh. 2 MS. HOFFER: And so, we're going to -- once 3 we get those seal coated, those will be five, and then 4 we have two from last year in Greenwood Forest that also 5 has the concrete curbing. So I found a company that can 6 do that job. He estimated it to be ten hours to do it. 7 But you know, he said you can run into things. 8 So I said why don't you -- I contacted 9 Heather and she said, you know, to have them put a 10 little bit in there just in case something happened, but 11 his rate is $150 an hour. We don't anticipate that the 12 seven roads to take 20 hours, but we wanted to make sure 13 we had extra time built into in case there are issues 14 that arise. 15 Like I said, the roads on the list are as 16 follows: Precinct 2, Cardiff, Dover and Kensington in 17 Castlecomb Subdivision. Precinct 3, Muleshoe and Silver 18 Saddle in Horseshoe Oaks Subdivision. In Precinct 4, 19 Wedgewood and Wild Timber in Greenwood Forest 20 Subdivision. 21 If the Court approves this contract, the 22 certificate of insurance and completed forms 1295 will 23 be required, along with signatures of the General 24 Contract. 25 At this time, I ask Commissioners' Court for 122 1 their approval for the General Contract with Texas Site 2 Services, LLC to sweep/vacuum the seven roads mentioned. 3 The amount is not to exceed $3,000.00 for 20 hours of 4 work. And this is in Precinct 2, 3, and 4. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And it's in the budget? 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 7 MS. HOFFER: I have this in my contingency 8 budget, 15-6112-599. I've got about $21,000 in that 9 line item. 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Second. 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Can they start -- 12 MS. HOFFER: I've got to wait for those 13 other two subdivisions to get through, but they said 14 this morning that it would probably be next week on 15 those five roads. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good. Good. 17 JUDGE KELLY: So we have a motion by 18 Commissioner Harris, a second by Commissioner Moser to 19 approve the General Contract with Texas Site Services, 20 LLC, to sweep and vacuum the County-maintained roads in 21 Precincts 2, 3, and 4. 22 This is in response to some complaints. I 23 know that. And it has to do with the fact that the 24 County's sweepers that we have are not designed for 25 curbed neighborhoods. They're designed for County 123 1 roads. And so they sweep the rocks off to the side. 2 And the complaint comes up in the context of we're seal 3 coating our County roads and not hot mix asphalting 4 those County roads. 5 And for those that don't understand the 6 engineering differences between those, the hot mix 7 asphalt provides for a much quieter surface, whereas the 8 seal coat, when you put those rocks on top to seal that 9 down, it's a very durable roadway, but it's also a 10 noisier roadway. 11 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And cheaper. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Much cheaper. And lasts much 13 longer and we're trying -- we've made that part of our 14 program trying to get all the roads caught up within the 15 next several years to get resurfaces on them. But what 16 happens is then the more residential neighborhoods in 17 the County that are not gated communities and don't 18 maintain their own streets have been getting the same 19 County roads as everybody that lives out on the ranches. 20 And the complaint is that they want -- they 21 want to reduce some of the noise and the rock 22 accumulation along the curbs. Am I stating this right, 23 Ms. Hoffer. 24 MS. HOFFER: Yes. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And I read your response and 124 1 it was very well written and I agree with everything you 2 said by the way. But this is a relatively small 3 accommodation we make to the people that live in those 4 neighborhoods to try to make their -- their roadways 5 nicer and more accommodating for them, even though -- 6 without varying our general County specs on how we do 7 our County roads. So that's the accommodation. And 8 I'm -- I'm completely in favor of this. So -- 9 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? Those 11 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 12 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you, Miss Hoffer. You 14 did a wonderful job. 15 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 16 JUDGE KELLY: The next items on the agenda, 17 we've got three public meetings back to back that I'm 18 going to convene here in just a second. And then we 19 have five after that. I think Charlie Hastings -- at 20 least his name appears on the next eight items. So if 21 you would, take your seat at the witness stand and we 22 will proceed accordingly. 23 Let me call first of all item 1.24, which is 24 a public meeting. I'm convening that meeting to order 25 as we speak for a revision of plat for the Kerrville 125 1 Country Estates Section 2, Lot 37. Is there anyone here 2 that wants to speak on that issue? This is a public 3 meeting. The public is invited to speak. There being 4 no one, then I will adjourn the meeting. 5 And we'll move on to the next public 6 meeting, which is item 1.25, which is a public hearing 7 for the revision of plat for Estates at Turtle Creek 8 Section Two, Lots 39 and 40. 9 Public meeting is convened and the public is 10 invited to speak. Does anyone wish to do so? There 11 being no one then that public meeting is adjourned, and 12 we will move on to item 1.26, which is a public meeting 13 for the revision of plat for River Dance Ranch, Lot 2. 14 Public meeting is open. Anybody here to speak on behalf 15 of that? There being no one, then the public meeting is 16 adjourned. 17 Now I'm moving on to action items. We'll go 18 to Item 1.27 consider, discuss and take appropriate 19 action for the Court to approve a revision of plat for 20 River Dance Ranch, Lot 2. Charlie Hastings. 21 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 22 proposal revises and enlarges Lot 2, currently 5.01 23 acres, by adding a portion of an adjacent unplatted 24 tract. Property access and road frontage will remain on 25 Highway 39. This property is in the floodplain and must 126 1 meet requirements for development in the floodplain. 2 The County Engineer requests the Court 3 approve a revision of plat for River Dance Ranch, Lot 2, 4 Plat File No. 20-08922, Precinct 4. And we just had a 5 public hearing a moment ago and nobody spoke. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 9 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 10 approve the revision of plat for River Dance Ranch, 11 Lot 2. Any other discussion? Those in favor raise your 12 hand. Unanimous, four zero. 13 Next action item is 1.28 consider, discuss 14 and appropriate action for the Court to approve a final 15 plat for Lajitas Subdivision. Charlie Hastings. 16 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. This proposal 17 creates three lots with frontage along State Highway 27 18 in Center Point. Lot 1 will be 72.4 acres. Lots 2 and 19 3 will be 5.01 acres each. All lots are partially 20 within the floodplain and must meet requirements for 21 development in the floodplain. 22 County Engineer requests the Court approve a 23 final plat for Lajitas Subdivision, Volume 1175, Page 24 453, Precinct 2. 25 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 127 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 3 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 4 approve the final plat approval for Lajitas Subdivision, 5 Precinct 2. Is there any discussion? There being none, 6 those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 7 Item 1.29 consider, discuss and take 8 appropriate action for the Court to conditionally 9 approve the preliminary plat for Shadow Bluff in Hunt, 10 Precinct 4. 11 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 12 preliminary plat proposes 8 lots and a common area park 13 in Hunt, Texas. A concept plan was presented to the 14 Court on May the 10th, 2021. Access to the proposed 15 lots will be from Bear Creek Scout Road, Cedar Cliff 16 Loop, and FM 1340. 17 A portion of the property is in the 18 floodplain and must meet requirements for development 19 within the floodplain. Conn Cemetery is on the property 20 as shown on the plat. Bear Creek Scout Road contains a 21 sharp curve next to Lot 5 that must be addressed. 22 Additional right-of-way, amount to be 23 determined, must be dedicated. Subdivision plans and/or 24 drainage study must be received and approved. These 25 conditions are required prior to consideration of the 128 1 final plat. 2 The County Engineer recommends the Court 3 approve a preliminary plat for Shadow Bluff in Hunt, 4 Texas, with conditions that subdivision plans and/or 5 drainage study are received and approved by the County 6 Engineer and additional right-of-way is to be dedicated. 7 Precinct 4. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 11 Commissioner Harris and seconded by Commissioner Belew 12 to approve the preliminary plat for Shadow Bluff, 13 Precinct 4. Any discussion? 14 Charlie, is this the one -- we changed the 15 name of this one, is that right. 16 MR. HASTINGS: Right. That's correct. 17 JUDGE KELLY: I knew there was some 18 confusion about the name. But we've now got all that 19 cleared up? 20 MR. HASTINGS: That's correct. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 22 MR. HASTINGS: They've gone with Shadow 23 Bluff. 24 JUDGE KELLY: I like it. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you. It's a good name. 129 1 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? Those 2 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 3 Item 1.30 consider, discuss and take 4 appropriate action for the Court to authorize 5 Commissioner Moser and Commissioner Letz to authorize 6 and approve road closures for their respective precincts 7 for the East Kerr County/Center Point Wastewater 8 Project. Precincts 2 and 3. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 12 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 13 authorize Commissioners Moser and Letz to approve and 14 authorize road closures in their Precincts for the East 15 Kerr County Wastewater Project. Any discussion? 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'd like for Moser to 17 be the flagman out there. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Get him a vest. 19 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And a hard hat. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And a hard hat. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Those in favor raise your 22 hand. Unanimous, four zero. 23 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You're making 24 Charlie's job too easy. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I'm trying to count how 130 1 many hours we have of body of powers and -- 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Right. 3 JUDGE KELLY: -- and how we do -- how County 4 government is run. We -- we can be a little bit faster 5 in this Court, as you can see. 6 Let's move on to Charlie's next item, which 7 is item 1.31 consider, discuss and take appropriate 8 action to authorize the County Engineer to prepare plans 9 and specifications for the reconstruction of 2.6 miles 10 of Ranchero Road, and said road damaged in the Winter 11 Storm Uri and take steps to fund same. Charlie 12 Hastings. 13 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. Partially 14 one of the main reasons behind this agenda item is 15 really to get out to the public that when you have a 16 road like Ranchero Road damaged in the storm like we had 17 in the winter storm and you already had your budget set 18 up and you already had everything moving towards your 19 normal road program, it really throws a wrench in things 20 and it's not easy to recover. It takes time. So I'm 21 going to go through the timeline of where we have been 22 and where we're going. 23 February the 11th through the 19th, Winter 24 Storm Uri damages 2.6 miles of Ranchero Road. The 25 initial damage estimate was about $1.3 million is what 131 1 we would have thought it would take to get it fixed and 2 we didn't have $1.3 million in the cushions of our sofa. 3 So February the 22nd through April the 9th, 4 we were going through a process of debris removal, 5 patching as needed, damage assessments, and recovery 6 funding requests submitted to FEMA. Now that's 7 countywide; it's not just for Ranchero Road. That's not 8 the only road in the whole County that got damaged. 9 So a lot of these comments are really 10 addressing the whole global issue of the entire County 11 suffering from that storm and what it is taking to 12 recover. 13 April the 12th, 2021, the Court authorizes 14 geotechnical pavement evaluation of Ranchero Road. 15 April the 19th, 2021, the Court adopts a 16 Resolution in support of submitting revised recovery 17 funding request to FEMA. We found after the geotech 18 report, hey, we can do this a lot cheaper, more 19 efficiently, more cost effective. 20 And on May 13th, 2021, the revised recovery 21 funding request was submitted to FEMA and the revised 22 number for Ranchero Road is estimated at $680,000. So 23 about $700,000 as opposed to 1.3 million. That's a good 24 deal. 25 Ranchero Road is in need of immediate 132 1 reconstruction, as continued patching is both expensive 2 and short lived. And we're having people come to the 3 office and they're reminding us of that. We know that, 4 but you've got to do what you've got to do. 5 The work will involve significant traffic 6 control measures, expediency, and the placement of hot 7 mix asphalt cement, all of which are beyond the scope of 8 Road & Bridge personnel. Although a disaster relief 9 funding request in the amount of $680,000 has been sent 10 to FEMA, there is no guarantee the request will be 11 awarded either partially or in full, and it is unknown 12 when such funding would be available if awarded. 13 Therefore, a funding plan must be developed and executed 14 in a timely manner, preferably during the summer of 15 2021. 16 The Court could possibly make use of 17 emergency funding for this project, perhaps from fund 18 balances or contingency, or seek other forms of funding. 19 I'm not here to ask about that. But what we'd like to 20 do is get the ball rolling on certain things that we can 21 do. 22 Most Kerr County maintained roads have a 23 chip seal surface, and therefore work can only be done 24 in the summer months; however, since Ranchero Road's 25 surface is comprised of hot mix, asphalt, cement, and 133 1 our climate is typically warm year 'round, work can also 2 be done year 'round on that road. 3 If plans and specifications were prepared 4 now, and the project were advertised and bid over the 5 summer, reconstruction of Ranchero Road could begin as 6 soon as October 1, 2021 when the fiscal year 2022 budget 7 begins. 8 So all that's to say that the County 9 Engineer is recommending that the Court authorize the 10 County Engineer to prepare plans and specifications for 11 the reconstruction of 2.6 miles of Ranchero Road, said 12 road damaged in Winter Storm Uri, and take steps to fund 13 the same. 14 That part would be the court. I'm 15 recommending that the Court take steps to fund it. But 16 I'm asking you to authorize me to prepare plans and 17 specs. I would come back later this summer when they're 18 ready and get permission to advertise. So we can kind 19 of take this step by step. But I believe that's the 20 next step. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So this -- this is just 22 to prepare plans and specs? 23 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. And -- and then I 24 don't know if y'all want to have a quick discussion 25 right now about how it would be funded. I -- 134 1 JUDGE KELLY: I want to wait. Charlie and I 2 have talked about this step and -- as have Tanya Shelton 3 and I, our Auditor, and for -- to relate back to my 4 earlier comment about the difficulty of knowing whether 5 the Federal Government is going to grant us the funds 6 they say they're going to give us or not, this is a 7 classic event. 8 There is no doubt that Ranchero Road was 9 completely destroyed during this winter storm. And yet 10 when we send the application to FEMA we get back a whole 11 bunch of crawfish. Those people can move sideways 12 faster than anybody I know. And -- and I don't mean to 13 be critical to the Federal Government, I'm just saying 14 that they have criteria and they get -- they can be very 15 nearsighted in the way they interpret that criteria. We 16 cannot afford the luxury of not repairing Ranchero Road. 17 And that's just a fact. 18 And I've talked to Kelly about it. I've 19 talked to Charlie about it. And what -- what we have 20 done in the upcoming budget, the workshop that begins 21 next week, we have included in that budget the necessary 22 funding to be able to repair Ranchero Road whether the 23 Federal Government is going to give us the money or not, 24 it is going to be repaired. 25 And we have asked Charlie to prepare these 135 1 -- these plans for us, so that we can do this. I can 2 tell you that in terms of our existing fund balance, we 3 are in good shape to be able to fund this, if need be. 4 In terms of our -- where we would be with our fund 5 balance for the next fiscal year, we have this budgeted 6 in next fiscal year. 7 So if we actually begin in October like he's 8 talking about, that would come out of the budget that 9 we're getting ready to work on. But the intent is, as 10 has been, that we are repairing Ranchero Road and we 11 hope that the Federal Government sees the good sense in 12 having that done. But if they don't, it will be done. 13 So that's -- that's -- and then, and I tease 14 Charlie. He was talking about it and he would say, 15 well, Judge, we don't -- we don't know where the money 16 comes from. I said, Charlie, it's in the budget. He 17 says but Judge, I don't know where -- I said, Charlie, 18 it's in the budget. And I think he was a little bit 19 surprised. The public may be surprised as well. But 20 this is something that simply has to be done. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. 22 JUDGE KELLY: It's a matter of public 23 safety. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So this means it has to 25 go back with the same materials that's on the road now? 136 1 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. Hot mix. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Hot mix asphalt. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. 4 MR. HASTINGS: One of the only roads in the 5 County that has hot mix. 6 MS. HOFFER: Yeah. 7 MR. HASTINGS: And for good reason. This 8 road gets 6,000 vehicles a day on it of traffic. And 9 because of the storm and because of layout, there were 10 not alternative routes for people to take. If you're on 11 Ranchero Road, you're on a leaf. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How are we going to 13 detour that? Are we just going to have traffic control? 14 MR. HASTINGS: Yeah, we'll have traffic 15 control. This is why -- 16 JUDGE KELLY: This is really why we -- 17 MR. HASTINGS: -- it's critical to hire a 18 contractor that is a big outfit that can handle the 19 traffic. 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Plus you got a school 21 right there. It's a lot of traffic. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So what we're really -- 23 all we're approving today, is for you to begin the 24 planning process. 25 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. 137 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Prepare a plan -- plans 2 or specs. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Unless you want more of a 4 brief conversation about the funding, I can tell you 5 that we are planning to be able to fund it and we're 6 hoping to be able to get reimbursed by FEMA. 7 MR. HASTINGS: I'm looking forward to the 8 workshop. 9 JUDGE KELLY: So with that I'll make a 10 motion that we authorize the County Engineer, Charlie 11 Hastings, to begin the plans to repair Ranchero Road. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. It's seconded by 14 Commissioner Moser. Any other discussion? Those in 15 favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 16 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 17 MR. HASTINGS: Thank y'all. 18 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.32 -- Mr. Robles, 20 you've shrunk. Consider, discuss and take appropriate 21 action to update the Budget Calendar for Fiscal Year 22 2021-2022. 23 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. The only difference in 24 the budget calendar presented to you is we're removing 25 the meeting that was to be held tomorrow and we're 138 1 condensing everything that was in that meeting to the 2 21st. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Do we have a copy of 4 that? 5 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. Well, yours is right 6 here. 7 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh, that's good. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Is that it? 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: No. That's old. 10 That's the old one. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Where's the new one? 12 MRS. SHELTON: I will give you mine. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Say it again, Tanya. 14 What's the -- what's the -- 15 JUDGE KELLY: We had one scheduled for 16 tomorrow. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We have one Wednesday, 18 don't we? Oh no, Wednesday is the airport. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what was the change, 21 Tanya? 22 MRS. SHELTON: We originally scheduled a 23 meeting for tomorrow -- as Heather took my sheet to 24 copy. But it was tomorrow. And we're no longer going 25 to have that meeting. We are going to condense 139 1 everything into one meeting. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. That's good. 3 MRS. SHELTON: It was -- it was two meetings 4 for the same topic, so it's just easier to discuss it on 5 one day. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. Thank 7 you. 8 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and part of the reason 9 for that is that we haven't had -- there hasn't been 10 that much adverse feedback from -- from our departments 11 and offices. So we don't anticipate it's going to be 12 that long. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Plus, Mr. Robles was finishing 15 a family vacation that he had already had booked for a 16 long time and would have to rearrange his flight 17 schedule to come back in time to host this thing 18 tomorrow afternoon and it just didn't seem necessary. 19 And so -- 20 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 21 JUDGE KELLY: -- I recommended that we move 22 it all off and just do a little bit longer session on 23 the 21st. 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good enough. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And then if I understand 140 1 correctly, we don't have another workshop until the 2 30th. Is that correct? 3 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Wednesday, the 30th? 5 MRS. SHELTON: Yes, that is correct. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Because somehow, and don't ask 7 me how I do these things, but my -- when I put calendar 8 entries on my computer, sometimes I don't know were they 9 come from. And I had one down for the 23rd and we do 10 not have one on the 23rd, right? 11 MRS. SHELTON: We do not. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Good. Because I have a 13 conflict. Makes me feel a whole lot better about it. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Good enough. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Is there a motion to 16 approve the -- 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 18 JUDGE KELLY: -- revised budget schedule? 19 Okay. Motion by Commissioner Harris. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Seconded by Commissioner 22 Belew. Any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 23 Unanimous, four zero. 24 Next item is 1.33 consider, discuss and take 25 appropriate action to authorize the County Judge to sign 141 1 the addendum to Exhibit A for the Arbitrage Rebate 2 Services with BLX Group, LLC, Series 2018 and 2019 3 Certificates of Obligation. 4 And simply put, what these are are 5 refinances, right? 6 MRS. SHELTON: These are for the Texas Water 7 Development Board bond certificates of obligation that 8 are out and the company BLX goes and performs all the 9 calculations that are needed to see whether or not we 10 have made too much interest on those CO's. 11 The wastewater treatment program is running 12 a little bit behind, so it's not an actual and so we 13 already have this contract for the 2016 CO and we're 14 just extending it for the 2018 and 2019. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 18 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 19 approve the addendum for the Arbitrage Rebate Services 20 agreement with BLX Group, LLC. Any other discussion? 21 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 22 Thank you. 23 The next item on the agenda is one that I 24 have to put on before every holiday and that is 1.34, to 25 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to address 142 1 the possibility of prohibiting or restricting the sale 2 or use of restricted fireworks, in other words, 3 "skyrockets with sticks" or "missiles with fins," to any 4 portion of the unincorporated area of Kerr County 5 pursuant to Local Government Code. 6 So as always, I turn to Commissioner Harris 7 to see where we are on the index. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, since I've been 9 in office I've been following this Keetch-Byram Drought 10 Index for all these things. And it is the lowest rating 11 I've ever seen since I've been doing this. I mean we 12 are lush and green and at the very minimum of any fire 13 hazards. 14 So with that being said, I move for approval 15 -- or there's no restrictions that we can imply. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. Well, we don't have 17 to -- there's no restrictions unless we take action. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: That's right. 19 JUDGE KELLY: So we don't need to take 20 action, so you're recommending that we not take action. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Exactly. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Right. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: On this subject of 24 ours, Heather, could you just tell us what we can and 25 can't do? Because -- and probably everybody -- I've 143 1 received a lot of e-mails, and probably everybody else 2 has, about why the County doesn't eliminate fireworks in 3 the City because of what it does to animals and etc., 4 etc. 5 And that's primarily it, you know, it's the 6 animals being frightened and hurting themselves and 7 Heather, I think, has got a good explanation of that. 8 So as part of that subject we got on this agenda item, 9 if you could just explain that for us. 10 MRS. STEBBINS: Of course. For this 11 particular date, and for New Year's Eve, you can't 12 prohibit the sale of fireworks in the same way. So this 13 would be the time where if there was a drought you could 14 restrict the -- 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Those two things. 16 MRS. STEBBINS: -- the skyrockets with 17 sticks and -- 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And missiles with fins. 19 MRS. STEBBINS: Thank you. But for the 20 other dates that have start -- y'all have started 21 permitting sales in recent years since the law changed 22 to allow you guys to permit the sales within the County, 23 and you can still restrict those two prohibited 24 fireworks if you'd like to during those times, but 25 with -- with July 4th and New Year's, those two dates 144 1 are not discretionary. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So all -- all other 3 dates we could restrict them? 4 MRS. STEBBINS: All other dates -- 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You can restrict. 6 MRS. STEBBINS: -- right. You have to 7 authorize the sale if -- if you'd want those to be able 8 to be sold during that time. 9 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. Okay. 10 JUDGE KELLY: All right. So -- but to 11 clarify for the public, it's -- I get the complaints, 12 too. We all do. 13 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Sure. Right. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And I just use Cinco de Mayo 15 as an example because I did get a lot -- we did get a 16 lot of feedback on Cinco de Mayo. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Thanks to some 18 misreporting. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Pardon? 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Thanks to some 21 misreporting. 22 JUDGE KELLY: But -- and that -- Cinco de 23 Mayo is one of those holidays that we can authorize the 24 sale of fireworks. Is that correct? 25 MRS. STEBBINS: That's right. We have Cinco 145 1 de Mayo, San Jacinto Day, Texas Independence Day, and 2 Memorial Day. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 4 JUDGE KELLY: And are we permitted to 5 prohibit fireworks during those holidays? 6 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes. If you are going to 7 allow sales, the Court must take action to permit them. 8 JUDGE KELLY: So those require affirmative 9 action? 10 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes, sir. 11 JUDGE KELLY: It is presumptive on July 4th 12 and New Year's Eve? 13 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes. That's correct. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And with regard to limiting 15 fireworks on the skyrockets with sticks and missiles 16 with fins, that's based upon a drought index; is that 17 correct? 18 MRS. STEBBINS: That's correct. I don't 19 know what the number is off the top of my head. 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: It has to be 600 to 21 700 on that Keetch-Byram index. 22 MRS. STEBBINS: Thank you. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And I think there's 24 something in there that can be that index and some other 25 considerations, too. We did that one time recently, 146 1 where we precluded it. Drought index was okay but there 2 were other issues. 3 MRS. STEBBINS: There were other safety 4 issues, yes. 5 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. Right. 6 JUDGE KELLY: And then one last thing that I 7 would ask is, I can remember being threatened with 8 litigation from various fireworks sellers in years past. 9 Do you remember when we went through that? 10 MRS. STEBBINS: No, not -- 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I remember the calls 12 because we -- 13 MRS. STEBBINS: We didn't get the calls. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: We did. We had 15 somebody who came in and -- 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, we had that. 17 But before that even is -- when I first got on the 18 court, I think maybe we did not allow something, and we 19 didn't follow the rules. We couldn't -- 20 JUDGE KELLY: I think what it was. And 21 we're -- this is group recall here. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. 23 JUDGE KELLY: We limited the "skyrockets 24 with sticks" and "missiles with fins" at a time when the 25 drought charts indicated that they should be permissible 147 1 and we did not allow them. 2 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Correct. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I think you're 4 correct. 5 JUDGE KELLY: So in response to that, we've 6 been -- tried to be more careful and that's why we've 7 had you at the podium today keeping us straight. And 8 why I always share with Commissioner Harris because he's 9 the one that monitors the drought index to see where we 10 are with that. But we have no choice but to approve the 11 sale of fireworks for this holiday and we have no choice 12 at this point to not limit "skyrockets with sticks" and 13 "missiles with fins." 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Correct. 15 MRS. STEBBINS: That's right. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you very much. 17 MRS. STEBBINS: You're welcome. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So no action. 19 Okay. Ms. Dowdy. Consider, discuss and 20 take appropriate action to set a public hearing on 21 July 12th, 2021, at 9:30 in the morning, to be held in 22 the Commissioners' courtroom, for the purpose of 23 presenting the County Clerk's Annual Record Archival 24 Plan in accordance with Local Government Code. 25 MS. DOWDY: This is just to set the public 148 1 hearing and we can go into details later, unless the 2 Court would like me to do so now. 3 JUDGE KELLY: We can do that at the public 4 hearing. 5 MS. DOWDY: Okay. 6 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion from 9 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 10 set a public hearing for July 12th for the County Clerk 11 to present her Annual Record Archival Plan in accordance 12 with Local Government Code. Those in favor raise your 13 hand. Unanimous, four zero. 14 Okay. Approval agenda, 2.1 pay the bills. 15 MRS. SHELTON: Invoices for today's 16 consideration equal $1,028,806.59. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Move for approval. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 20 Commission Moser, seconded by Commissioner Harris to 21 include paying the bills as presented. Is there any 22 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 23 four zero. 24 Budget amendments. 25 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. We have seven budget 149 1 amendments for your consideration. The first two are 2 line item transfers. And then the last five -- the next 3 four on the list, let me back up a little bit, are due 4 to the storm damage and so they're just to certify that 5 insurance is coming in for that and to change the budget 6 for the expenditures for the repairs. And then the very 7 last is to show the residue for the TxDOT grant that we 8 have received and to increase the budget for that. And 9 that was about $91,000. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Move for approval. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 13 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 14 approve the budget amendments as presented. 15 And just so that the public understands, 16 when we talk about line item transfers those are funds 17 that are within the budget of that particular department 18 or office, it's moved from one column to the next 19 depending on how the expenses are varied from month to 20 month throughout the year's expenses. 21 And then the insurance related is when we 22 have possible reimbursement from insurance and we need 23 to change the budget to accommodate for those. And then 24 with this grant, that was an award of money that comes 25 into the County that we need to reflect in our budget 150 1 roll. 2 So with that, any other discussion? Those 3 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 4 Auditor reports. 5 MRS. SHELTON: Do you want to do those 6 before the late bills? 7 JUDGE KELLY: I'm sorry. Late bills. 8 MRS. SHELTON: Okay. 9 JUDGE KELLY: 2.3. I overlooked the late 10 bills. Thank you. 11 MRS. SHELTON: We have $446.25 for late 12 bills. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 16 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 17 approve the late bill as presented. Those in favor 18 raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 19 2.4. Auditor's report. 20 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. We performed an 21 internal audit for the County Clerk's office. And we 22 ask that you accept the report. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So move. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 151 1 Commissioner Moser, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 2 approve the Auditor's report as presented. Any 3 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 4 four zero. 5 Monthly reports. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. Quarterly 7 portfolio summary for period January 1, 2021 through 8 March 31, 2021 submitted by County Treasurer, Tracy 9 Soldan. For April, 2021 payroll approval report, County 10 Treasurer, Tracy Soldan. For May, 2021 Constable 11 monthly report Constable 1, Tommy Rodriguez, Constable 12 2, Kyle Schneider, Constable 3, Ken Wilke, Constable 4, 13 Brad Ryder. 14 Fines, judgments and jury fees collected, 15 J.P. 1, Mitzi French, J.P. 2, J.R. Hoyne, J.P. 3, Kathy 16 Mitchell, J.P. 4, Bill Ragsdale. District Clerk, Dawn 17 Lantz, the County Clerk, Jackie, J.D. Dowdy. Payroll 18 approval report, County Treasurer, Tracy Soldan. 19 Indigent Services, HR Director, Jennifer Doss. I move 20 for approval. 21 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Second. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Motion's been made by 24 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Moser to 25 approve the report as presented. And just for 152 1 demonstrative purposes, these are the reports. This is 2 what we get on a monthly basis pretty much that need to 3 be reviewed and approved. So if there's no other 4 discussion, those in favor raise your hand. Reports are 5 approved. And we all have to sign them. You'll see 6 them pass them back and forth to each other. Go ahead. 7 Let's go to -- well, do we have any court 8 orders today? 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Commissioner Letz gave 12 these to me. He reviewed them all. And these are Court 13 Order 38727 through 38746, from Monday, 5-24-2021, 14 regular meeting. And he says they're all good for his 15 review, so I move for approval. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Motion's been made by 18 Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Belew to 19 approve the Court Orders as presented. Any discussion? 20 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, four zero. 21 Okay. We'll move on to the information part 22 of the agenda. 3.1 status reports from Department 23 Heads. Shane Evans. 24 MR. EVANS: Yes, sir. Early -- early May 25 the Union Church sustained some wind damage to the roof 153 1 and I've had TAC -- they went out and they're adjusters 2 and gave a report back. With their report, what they 3 would like to do with the roof at this point is a full 4 replacement on the one -- the right side slope and 5 repair the left slope for a cost of $6,948. I wonder if 6 it would behoove us to have the whole -- go ahead and 7 have the whole roof replaced. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So insurance just 9 covered half the roof? 10 MR. EVANS: Basically they covered half the 11 roof and then repaired the left side that had some wind 12 damage. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And that will look 14 really good. 15 COMMISSIONER MOSER: So what -- what is the 16 type of roofing it has? 17 MR. EVANS: It's the composite shingles. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's composite. Okay. 19 And what would be the cost to us to do the other -- 20 MR. EVANS: I haven't -- I haven't went out 21 to get the bids to do that but before I did that, I 22 wanted y'all's opinion on should we go ahead and do the 23 whole roof, both left and right side? 24 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Well, I think you need 25 to get a bid, or get bids. 154 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You could get both. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So we don't have an agenda 3 item to take any action on that, as far as -- 4 COMMISSIONER MOSER: It's just information. 5 JUDGE KELLY: -- information, I would think 6 that we would want to take a look at what it's going to 7 cost to do a complete roof rather than do it piecemeal. 8 COMMISSIONER MOSER: You've got that right. 9 Yeah. 10 MR. EVANS: I'll get back to you. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other Department 12 Heads reports. 13 MS. DOSS: Yes, sir. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Ms. Doss. 15 MS. DOSS: Yes. I would love to introduce 16 your new HR team. Stand up, please. In the blue we 17 have Rosa Hernandez. She's the HR generalist. She 18 handles the payroll and benefits. And on your right you 19 have Nataly Torres, she's the HR Assistant/Indigent 20 Health Clerk. And I cannot say enough. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You announced that like 22 a prize fight. In the blue... 23 MS. DOSS: Sometimes we have -- no. They 24 have just jumped right in. They are problem solvers. 25 They have helped me so much. I -- I could -- they've 155 1 been here such a short time, but they're -- they're a 2 huge asset to our team. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Welcome, ladies. 4 VOICE: Glad to be here. Thank you. 5 VOICE: Nice to meet you. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Item 3.2 reports from 7 Elected Officials. Anything? 8 Okay. Item 3.3 reports from Liaison 9 Commissioners. 10 I have something to report. Last week I was 11 asked go down to join the Governor in Del Rio, along 12 with about another -- probably at least another hundred 13 county judges with us, as well as sheriffs and mayors 14 and it was quite a gathering down there on the border 15 crisis. 16 And just to let you know that he gathered us 17 all together and told us what he was thinking about 18 doing and then we made a press announcement and so what 19 you've read in the paper, it's been accurately reported 20 as to what he's trying to do. But it was -- it was very 21 reassuring to see that many elected officials and 22 landowners. 23 It was a big portion of this meeting was the 24 actual landowners themselves that came together. And 25 there was an overall consensus that we need to help 156 1 secure our borders a little bit better than what is 2 being done right now. So I'd just report that. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Was there a good 4 turnout of the people invited, a high percentage? 5 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. Yes. I'm -- I'm -- for 6 the big meeting with -- I think they had a meeting for 7 the sheriffs at one point and then they had a meeting 8 for the county judges and mayors at one point. And then 9 they had the big meeting, which was with the landowners 10 and everybody, and I would estimate there were well over 11 five, six hundred people there. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: But percentage of those 13 that were invited, a high percentage turned out? 14 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. Yes. In fact, among the 15 Hill Country County Judges, you know, we kind of have 16 our own little social grouping when we get together, I 17 think we took up about two rows. 18 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Fantastic. Good deal. 19 JUDGE KELLY: And the judges come all the 20 way from Karnes City and Three Rivers. There was quite 21 a turnout. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Good deal. That's 23 fantastic. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Anything else, Commissioners? 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: No. Shane kind of 157 1 took me off the hook talking about the Union Church. So 2 that's all I have. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'm looking here for 4 the latest award they won with the -- our Kerr County 5 Historical Commission. It's been award winning for 6 sometime and I thought I would read that. 7 JUDGE KELLY: 20 years in a row. 8 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Yeah. 20 years in a 9 row. So just to make note of it and to thank them for 10 the fine work that they're doing. Don't necessarily 11 have to read you it, but they continue to rack them up. 12 And Julie Leonard has done a very good job, along with 13 everybody else with the Historical Commission. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and so the public 15 understands, there is a special recognition of that 16 award, it's going to be at a Commissioners' Court 17 meeting. But this is just kind of advance notice that 18 we -- our -- our Historical Society wins again. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: It's one you can be 20 proud of. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Absolutely. 22 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The only thing -- other 23 thing I'd mention as liaison wise is the meeting we have 24 with the Joint City Council, Commissioners' Court, and 25 Airport Board on Wednesday at 1:30. And that's going to 158 1 be a very, very important meeting. I'll just use my 2 term, I call it the fish or cut bait meeting. Jim Mans 3 would call it a crossroads. Okay. It has to do with 4 recognizing the airport and what City and County want to 5 do with that asset long term. Maintain it or improve it 6 as an asset. So it's going to be a really super 7 important meeting. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Is that open to the 9 public? 10 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Yeah, well anytime we 11 got it. Yeah, it's open to the public. 12 JUDGE KELLY: It's a publicly posted 13 meeting. 14 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Right. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And then I -- the only other 16 thing I would report is -- to make this Court aware is 17 that our Chief Defender in the Public Defender's Office 18 is requesting to be transferred at the supervision of 19 the grant, and the office transferred to Medina County, 20 and that will be considered at this upcoming board 21 meeting when it comes to Court. I think it's fair to 22 say he is not happy with Kerr County. 23 COMMISSIONER MOSER: And he's requesting 24 what be transferred? 25 JUDGE KELLY: The grant. 159 1 COMMISSIONER MOSER: The grant. 2 JUDGE KELLY: And the supervision. 3 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Oh really. 4 JUDGE KELLY: So it's -- he's -- he's 5 dissatisfied. His dissatisfaction, and trust me, I 6 throw no stones because I -- I never hear from the guy. 7 He never tells me anything. But be that as it may, he's 8 not happy with IT. He's not happy with the Auditor. 9 He's not happy with HR. He's not happy with me. He's 10 not happy with Commissioner Letz. He's not happy with 11 any of them. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Wow. 13 JUDGE KELLY: And he wants to go to Medina 14 County. And this -- we will -- we will be meeting with 15 that this week and it will probably be addressed at the 16 Board meeting on the 24th. 17 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Stay tuned. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Stay tuned. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How will that be 20 determined? 21 JUDGE KELLY: Well, the chairman of our 22 board, PDO board, Keith Williams, is trying to convene a 23 meeting this week in order for us to be able to address 24 these issues with Mr. Bull because we had not had them 25 voiced to us so that we can address them. 160 1 But that's -- the first thing is we're 2 trying to meet this week. That meeting will include 3 probably Commissioner Letz and myself, Judge Williams, 4 as well as John Bull. We're trying to do that 5 preemptively before the board meeting next week. 6 He has requested that Judge Schuchardt come 7 up from Hondo and be present and sit down and try to 8 help us work some of these things out. That's kind of 9 where it stands. Just a heads up. Don't want to 10 surprise everyone when we come in here in two weeks and 11 something's changed. 12 COMMISSIONER MOSER: Okay. 13 JUDGE KELLY: So with that, is there any 14 other business before the Court? There being -- and we 15 have no Executive Session; is that right? 16 MRS. STEBBINS: That's right. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Therefore, we stand adjourned. 18 * * * * * * 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 161 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Court Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify 6 that the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise 7 a true and correct transcription of the proceedings had 8 in the above-entitled Regular Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 25th day of June, A.D. 2021. 10 11 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 12 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/30/2023 13 * * * * * * 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25