1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, May 9, 2022 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge HARLEY BELEW, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 T. BECK GIPSON, Commissioner Precinct 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Precinct 3 25 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Commissioner's comments. 6 4 1.1 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 8 action to approve request from Center 5 Point ISD to use Lions Park, Center Point, Texas on October 26, 2022 from 4 p.m. to 6 8 p.m. for the Center Point ISD Homecoming Event. Event will consist of games, bonfire 7 by CPVFD and a parade starting at Mosty Lane on FM 1350 and ending at Lions Park. 8 1.2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 11 9 action on request to allow Center Point ISD to close the 100 block of Kelly Street 10 during school hours on regular school days from Monday-Friday, 7:45 a.m. to 3:45 p.m. 11 CPISD will place the barricades up each morning and remove them in the afternoon. 12 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 12 13 action to amend Court Order No. 39279 to reflect the use of Flat Rock Park for the 14 Tivy High School Cross Country Track Meet on August 19th and September 21st. Previous 15 request was for August 19th and September 9th. 16 1.5 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 13 action on request to put signs on the 17 courthouse lawn for the mental health awareness during the month of May. 18 1.25 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 19 action to approve paying additional consultant services fees to Jill Shackelford 20 for her work with the Aggregate Production Operations, APO, meetings. 21 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 15 22 action to accept a monetary donation in the amount of $150.00 from Rotary Club to cover 23 costs of the TJCTC training for constable. 24 1.6 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 16 action regarding an update on upcoming 25 Memorial Day event. 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.7 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 18 action to accept quarterly report from the 4 Veteran Advisory Council. 5 1.20 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 26 action to approve a $1,000.00 cash donation 6 from a citizen for Sheriff's Equipment Fund, 72-370-531. 7 1.21 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 26 8 action to approve two $100.00 cash donations from citizens for Sheriff's Equipment Fund, 9 72-370-531. 10 1.22 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 27 action to approve First Amendment to Policy 11 for Use of Kerr County Courthouse Grounds. 12 1.13 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 28 action to approve the contract for Assessment 13 and Collection Services between Kerr County and Kerr County Emergency Services District #4 14 and authorize the County Judge to sign same. 15 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 29 action to open Sealed Bids for lease of the 16 Kerr County Juvenile Facility located at 3499 Legion Drive, Kerrville, Kerr County, Texas. 17 1.9 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 33 18 action to appoint Robert Hamm to the Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board. 19 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 36 20 action to approve updated Row Hangar Project scope, funding, construction contract and 21 agent authorization. 22 1.11 Passed. 23 24 25 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.12 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 52 action on a request from the Hill Country 4 Youth Event Center, on behalf of the Border Terrier Club of America, to use the Dog Park 5 side of Flat Rock Park March 17-19, 2024 exclusively for the Earth Dog Trials portion 6 of their event. 7 1.25 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 58 action to approve paying additional 8 consulting services fees to Jill Shackelford for her work with the Aggregate Production 9 Operations (APO) meetings. 10 1.14 Public Hearing for a revision of plat for 82 Paloma Ranch Lots 10 and 12, Plat File 11 21-10485. 12 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 82 action for the Court to approve a revision 13 of plat for Paloma Ranch, Lots 10 and 12, Plat File 21-10485. 14 1.16 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 83 15 action on a request for extension of Preliminary Plat for the YOHQ Ranches 16 Subdivision. 17 1.17 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 87 action for the Court to set a public hearing 18 for 10 a.m. on June the 13, 2022 for a revision of plat for Y.O. Ranchlands, Tracts 19 46B, 46C, and 49A, Volume 5, Page 345 - Volume 6, Page 128. 20 1.18 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 88 21 action for the Court to approve a final plat for Classic Hunt Addition. 22 1.19 Presentation concerning the 2023 Annular 90 23 Eclipse and the 2024 Total Eclipse. 24 1.23 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 107 action on Implementation of the Burn Ban. 25 5 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.24 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 107 action to determine whether to allow the 4 retail fireworks permit holders to sell fireworks to the public in celebration of 5 Memorial Day, beginning May 25, 2022 and ending at midnight on May 30, 2022 pursuant 6 to Texas Occupations Code Section 2154.202(g)(3). 7 1.26 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 109 8 action to approve the updated job description in the Human Resources Department. 9 2.1 Budget Amendments. 110 10 2.2 Pay Bills. 110 11 2.5 Accept Monthly Reports. 111 12 2.6 Court Orders. 111 13 3.1 Status reports from Department Heads. 112 14 3.2 Status reports from Elected Officials. 112 15 3.3 Status reports from Liaison Commissioners. 113 16 *** Adjournment. 115 17 *** Reporter's Certificate. 116 18 * * * * * * 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 6 1 JUDGE KELLY: It is Monday, May the 9th, 2 2022, 9:00 o'clock in the morning and the Kerr County 3 Commissioners' Court is now in session. If you would, 4 please rise for the prayer and the pledge. 5 (Prayer and Pledge) 6 JUDGE KELLY: Please be seated. We've got a 7 full Court today. Unfortunately some of the things will 8 come up later on the agenda. But the first thing we do 9 in every Commissioner's Court is we provide an 10 opportunity for input from the public. And that -- that 11 invitation is for things that are not on the agenda. If 12 the item is on the agenda, we ask that you wait and 13 address the Court at the time that that agenda item is 14 called, and limit your remarks to three minutes. And so 15 this is the time that, if it's not on the agenda, if 16 it's a burning issue that you need to -- the Court to 17 address, you have the opportunity to do so. Is there 18 anyone who would like to address the Court at this time? 19 Very well. Then we'll move on to Commissioners' 20 Comments. Precinct 1. 21 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I don't have anything. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Good. Precinct 2. 23 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I'm okay. 24 Everything's fine. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Three. 7 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think I'm good. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Four. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, the Hunt 4 Volunteer Fire Department had their fundraiser, the 5 Beach Blast, Saturday and I think it was well received 6 and hopefully -- I don't know what the tally was but I'm 7 sure they did well. That's it. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Well, as you know there's a 9 lot going on in the community than this. I want to 10 shout out to our elections department and Bob Reeves and 11 his office. They did an outstanding job. And for those 12 of you that haven't followed that, we couldn't be 13 prouder of them for what they do for us. We all had our 14 local elections and I guess we will now have -- we know 15 what's going to happen with the City. And we know what 16 happens with the bond issues for the City and for the 17 School District. So we now have heard the voices of the 18 people. And it is our duty at this point to carry out 19 those wishes. 20 So with that, we'll go ahead and get about 21 the stuff that the County has to do. The School 22 District and the City, that's their province. That has 23 nothing to do with what we have to do. 24 So with that, we'll go to the Consideration 25 Agenda. And it's going to be a little bumpy today. Let 8 1 me kind of tell you how I plan to do this. We have a 2 lot of people here. And the objective of the Court is 3 to hear y'all before we hear our Department Heads and 4 the people that work here at the courthouse. So what 5 I'm going to do is some of you -- I see Francis out 6 there. And I'm -- I want y'all to understand, I'm going 7 to get to you just as soon as I can. Hopefully we're 8 not going to wait until the end of this agenda. I don't 9 want you to have to sit out there for an hour and a half 10 this morning. So I'm going to take a few things out of 11 order to do that. 12 So with that, let's go ahead and move on to 13 item number 1.1, which is to consider, discuss and take 14 appropriate action to approve the request from Center 15 Point ISD to use Lions Park in Center Point on 16 October 26th from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. for the Center Point 17 ISD Homecoming Event, which will consist of games, 18 bonfire (I'm nervous), and a parade starting at Mosty 19 Lane. And so with that we've got Cody Newcomb, Michael 20 Earney, and Charles Holt. I see Charles here. 21 MR. HOLT: Yes, sir. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Anything you want to present? 23 MR. EARNEY: Yes, sir. Commissioners, just 24 thank you for having -- giving us the opportunity to be 25 here. Just to give you a little background, July 12th 9 1 of last year, 2021, we came to the Court and asked for 2 exclusive use of Lions Park during our Homecoming 3 Celebration in October. I can't even begin to tell you 4 I think the success that we had through that venture. 5 We had over 20 to 25 floats, all from students, 6 different organizations, different clubs, relating the 7 Center Point. For our bonfire at Lions Park we had, 8 what, seven to 800 people -- 9 MR. HOLT: At least. 10 MR. EARNEY: -- show up for our event. 11 We've never had a larger football game. Usually our 12 stands are sporadic in Center Point. Our stands are 13 usually filled with visitors more than they are home. 14 But this year, it was just phenomenal. There was 15 standing room only. So I think the event that we had 16 took in a lot and brought a lot into the Center Point 17 and the community of Center Point. 18 MR. HOLT: It also blended into our fish 19 fry, which was that Saturday. It's the biggest one 20 we've ever had in history compared to the last 46 of 21 them we've had. It was more than four times what we 22 usually make. 23 JUDGE KELLY: And of course, what's most 24 important for us to hear is that everything was orderly 25 and we had no problems with it. 10 1 MR. EARNEY: Well, with that the -- the 2 School District contracted with the Sheriff's Department 3 to provide additional security through the funding of 4 the County. We have a letter of support from Sheriff 5 Leitha on this year. I've already tried to -- I've 6 already filled out the paperwork for TxDOT. Just 7 waiting for the Court to approve so I can submit the 8 request for the parades for October. 9 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and Charles, we look to 10 you to get -- you did a great job of EasterFest and we 11 want to make sure that your volunteer fire departments 12 are going to be there to help us if things get -- go 13 south on us. 14 MR. HOLT: Whatever y'all need. We're going 15 to be there for the bonfire. It's pretty much a 16 non-issue where we put it at. It's at least a 200 by 17 100 foot section of good base material, so it's not 18 going to catch anything on fire. We'll stay at the fire 19 all night long. The next day we'll let it, you know, 20 burn out and then we'll put it out and then the school 21 comes and they scoop everything up and haul it off so. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Do we have a pirate 23 pride motion? 24 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I move for approval of 25 Item 1.1. 11 1 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and second 3 to approve the request to use Lions Park for Homecoming 4 Parade for Center Point ISD, in conjunction with Center 5 Point Volunteer Fire Department. Any other input? 6 Comments? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous. 7 Pirate Pride. 8 MR. HOLT: Thank y'all. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 10 MR. HOLT: Y'all have a great day. 11 JUDGE KELLY: 1.2 is to consider, discuss 12 and take appropriate action to request -- on a request 13 to allow Center Point ISD to close the 100 block of 14 Kelly Street during school hours on regular school days 15 from Monday-Friday, 7:45 to 3:45, and Center Point ISD 16 will place barricades up each morning and remove them in 17 the afternoon. 18 MR. EARNEY: I think, Commissioner Gipson, 19 we're going to pass on that until the next Commissioners 20 meeting. Is that correct? 21 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: It's up to you. 22 MR. EARNEY: Yes, sir. I think we need to. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We'll pass that one. 24 Thank you. Do y'all have anything else? 25 MR. EARNEY: No. 12 1 JUDGE KELLY: Thanks for coming to the 2 courthouse. 3 MR. EARNEY: Thank you. Thank y'all for 4 having me. 5 JUDGE KELLY: 1.3 consider, discuss and take 6 appropriate action to amend Court Order No. 39279 to 7 reflect the use of Flat Rock Park for the Tivy High 8 School Cross Country Track Meet on August 19th and 9 September 21st, from the previous request was for August 10 19th and September the 9th. 11 So we're changing those dates. And as I 12 understand it, Mr. Taylor couldn't be here today. I 13 think he had a substitute teacher shortage and he had to 14 fill in. Is there any input from the public or any input 15 from the Court on this one? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Got a motion and second 19 to approve changing the date from September the 9th to 20 September 21st for the Tivy Cross Country Track Meet. 21 Any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 22 Unanimous, five zero. 23 Paul, I'm going to hold up on you. There 24 you are. Just been patient with me. 25 CONSTABLE GONZALES: No worries. 13 1 JUDGE KELLY: Then I've got a 9:10 item. 2 Consider, discuss and take appropriate action on request 3 to put signs on the courthouse lawn for the mental 4 health awareness during the month of May. Yes, ma'am. 5 You want to identify yourself? 6 MS. BIGOTT: Yes. My name is Kelsi Bigott 7 and I'm the community relations director for Hill 8 Country MHDD and for mental health and developmental 9 disabilities. And so May is mental health awareness 10 month. And under the local mental health authority, we 11 would like to display our signs in front of the 12 courthouse. 13 One in five adults in America suffer from 14 mental health illnesses. And our goal is to -- it's 15 important for our citizens to know that help is out 16 there and that Kerrville has different resources. We 17 want to destigmatize mental health and there's other 18 community organizations that are already displaying -- 19 about 15 businesses are displaying the signs. It has 20 our crisis hotline number, which is 24/7, as well as our 21 hillcountry.org organizational website which has local 22 resources where other people can get more information 23 about where they need -- they need some help. 24 So our goal is just to end the stigma and 25 support in solidarity for mental health awareness. And 14 1 we would like to place these right out front right next 2 to your Nomi(phonetic) signs. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Right next to our what? 4 MS. BIGOTT: Nomi signs. You have some 5 signs out front. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 7 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I'll move for approval. 8 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think we need 10 to. At our last meeting we approved and we didn't 11 specify who. It just says -- I believe the Court Order 12 from last time to approve and authorize the placement of 13 small yard signs around the County Courthouse grounds to 14 bring awareness to the public about May being mental 15 health awareness month. It will also be a request, but 16 we didn't say it was only for that one month, so I think 17 you're covered under the current court order. 18 JUDGE KELLY: But we appreciate you coming 19 and bringing it to our attention. We've made that the 20 standard place as we go and -- but this is mental health 21 awareness month. For those of you that don't know, I'm 22 past chairman of the mental health MHDD Board. And if 23 you haven't met our new executive director, Todd Citron, 24 you're in for a treat. And so this is very much 25 appreciated. 15 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So you're already 2 approved. 3 COMMISSIONER BELEW: However, if you had not 4 come in here, everybody up here would have said, "What's 5 that out there? Why didn't I hear about that?" So 6 thank you. 7 JUDGE KELLY: That's right. 8 MS. BIGOTT: Okay. Thank y'all. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Let me go ahead and 10 call -- we've got a bunch of people here -- 1.25, which 11 is consider, discuss and take appropriate action to 12 approve paying additional consultant services fees to 13 Jill Shackelford for her work with the Aggregate 14 Production Operations advisory council. And I know we 15 have a number of y'all here today. 16 SPEAKER: Judge, I think most of the people 17 who would like to speak will not be here until after the 18 10 o'clock break. That's what I told them. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then we'll just wait. 20 SPEAKER: Okay. 21 JUDGE KELLY: I saw you sitting out there 22 and I didn't want to make you wait. 23 SPEAKER: Well, I'm good. No, no, no. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then let's -- Paul, 25 let's do you at 1.4 consider, discuss and take 16 1 appropriate action to accept a monetary donation in the 2 amount of $150 from the Rotary Club to cover the costs 3 of the TJCTC training for constables in Precinct 3. 4 CONSTABLE GONZALES: Yes, sir. Judge, 5 Commissioners, good morning. I just wanted to come 6 before you to ask for approval for $150.00 donation to 7 be used for the Texas Force Justice Training Center for 8 some mandatory training civil process. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 12 second to approve the donation from the Rotary Club for 13 the constable training. Any discussion? Those in favor 14 raise your hand. Unanimous. Thank you, Paul. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you, Paul. 16 CONSTABLE GONZALES: I just want to note 17 that we appreciate the Rotary Club for their assistance 18 and support. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Next is 1.6 consider, 20 discuss and take appropriate action regarding an update 21 to the upcoming Memorial Day event. Jenna Sanchez. 22 MS. SANCHEZ: Good morning. Just a quick 23 update on Memorial Day. Everything's going very well. 24 Our emcee will be Mr. Jeff Harris. Welcome remarks will 25 be done by Judge Kelly, invocation and benediction will 17 1 be done by Commissioner Belew. Posting of colors will 2 be provided by Tivy Junior ROTC. Our keynote speaker 3 will be Lieutenant General Mike Oats. This year we'll 4 have a piper, Sergeant Eric Morgan, Texas Highway 5 Patrol, who will be in full ceremonial dress. He will 6 be playing Amazing Grace. Presenting the Kerr County 7 wreath will be Commissioner Gipson. Three volleys will 8 be provided by the Hill Country Honor Guard. Taps will 9 be played live by Retired Lieutenant Colonel George 10 Eychner. 11 We'll have chairs to the left of the podium 12 for all of our Commissioners' Court, as well as people 13 who have speaking roles. We will have the -- a 14 Sheriff's Deputy who will have the courthouse open so 15 restrooms will be able for the public from 9:30 to 16 11:30, and IT will be recording the event so we can 17 share it to anyone who was not able to attend. And 18 that's all I have. 19 Questions? Do you have any questions for 20 me? 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: So what time does it 22 start? 23 MS. SANCHEZ: It starts at 10 o'clock. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: 10:00? 25 MS. SANCHEZ: Yes, sir. And the press 18 1 release will be getting out sometime this week. 2 JUDGE KELLY: The committee met and you said 3 they were quite active. 4 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Good work. 5 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: You have a good plan. 6 MS. SANCHEZ: Thank you. And we'll be 7 handing out coffee again this year as well. Thank you. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Now, we don't need to take any 9 action on that, right? 10 MS. SANCHEZ: No, sir. Just -- 11 JUDGE KELLY: We've already approved it? 12 MS. SANCHEZ: Yes, sir. Just an update. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well done. You're doing a 14 good job. 15 MS. SANCHEZ: Thank you. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: She just didn't want 18 you asking questions when it happens on the Courthouse 19 lawn, I think. 20 JUDGE KELLY: She came and talked to me 21 earlier this morning. She has dotted her I's and 22 crossed her T's. Trust me. 23 Item 1.7 consider, discuss and take 24 appropriate action to accept quarterly report from the 25 Veteran Advisory Council. Gary Noller. 19 1 MR. NOLLER: Good morning. I'm Gary Noller, 2 140 Ray Drive in Center Point, Texas. And Jenna did 3 present us with the quarterly report for the first 4 quarter of 2022 and we're very happy with the report. 5 She's doing outstanding work and we encourage her to 6 continue her dedication to the veterans of Kerr County. 7 And we also, quiet honestly, tell her that she has to 8 pace herself because she's, as you can see, very high 9 energy. And we love that high energy, but we want to 10 keep that high energy for a long time. So -- so that's 11 one of the things that -- that we -- we also want her to 12 consider. 13 She did tell us of a success story and I 14 think everybody needs to know a little bit. Because 15 when we first appeared here years ago, there were some 16 people who said we don't even know what a Veteran 17 Service Officer does. What does a veteran service 18 officer do? So without any names or anything, she 19 recently worked with a veteran, that would be a Viet Nam 20 veteran. He's an in-country veteran so that means he's 21 about as old as I am. The youngest Viet Nam veteran has 22 already passed the age of 70. But he was living on a 23 small amount of money -- 24 JUDGE KELLY: I resemble that remark, Gary. 25 MR. NOLLER: His -- his monthly income was 20 1 less than what most two-bedroom apartments in Kerr 2 County cost, and I'm not talking luxury apartments. I'm 3 talking non-luxury apartments. That was his monthly 4 income. And we all have monthly incomes. 5 But what would be the effect if we opened a 6 letter, a statement, that said that your monthly income 7 just tripled? I think everybody would say, "Well, I'll 8 take that. That sounds like a pretty good deal." 9 So the second thing is, was what if you 10 opened that same letter and then inside it was a note 11 that said, you're going to get five years back pay at 12 this triple monthly income rate. And -- and that's the 13 effect, that's the impact that this one veteran has been 14 able to have because Jenna worked with him and -- and 15 this started out in 2017 and she picked him up in 2020. 16 And it involved an appeal process. And a lot of Veteran 17 Service officers don't like the appeal process because 18 there's a lot of paper. 19 But anyway, that's just -- that is a success 20 story. It may be more than most success stories would 21 be but -- but certainly we want everybody to know that 22 that's what can happen. And that's why we appreciate so 23 much the fact that Kerr County has decided to fund the 24 position of the Veteran Service officer and continue to 25 fund the Veteran Service officer because there's people 21 1 out there that, in reality, this veteran is going to 2 have a huge difference in his lifestyle, based on the 3 fact that his monthly income is going to triple and that 4 he's going to get five years of income in one check. 5 And the only thing I told Jenna was make sure he goes to 6 the post office to get that check. 7 So right now I'm finished. Byron, I 8 believe, and Jeff are here. Vicki Marsh is also here 9 from the committee, but they're going to speak a little 10 bit about their concern. Thank you. 11 MR. WARREN: Good morning. Byron Warren, 12 2944 Dry Hollow Drive, Kerrville. 13 MR. HARRIS: And Jeff Harris, 769 Oakland 14 Hills Lane, Kerrville, Texas. 15 MR. WARREN: Jeff and I, and others, 16 including Judge Kelly, have been meeting with the 17 subject of the November Veterans Day parade. We've had 18 one meeting at the leadership of Judge Kelly. We really 19 appreciate his attendance that puts a heavy County 20 flavor on the meetings for the parade this November. 21 What we discussed is the general outline of 22 what needs to be done to pull off a parade and there are 23 some big items and some details to be filled in. Our 24 next meeting, the committee meeting, is the 18th which 25 is next week and Judge Kelly also has volunteered to 22 1 attend that meeting. We really think that's important. 2 And at the beginning. It's my projection and thought 3 that the committee will be fairly along with what needs 4 to be filled in to make a parade by end of July. That 5 gives us time to do the final -- the final touches to 6 make that parade a success. It is a community and 7 countywide project. And I'll let Jeff talk about the 8 direction and the criteria of the route parade in what 9 we think may happen at the end. But I'm very happy 10 what -- what we've got settled and discussed so far. 11 And I think the prognosis of finalizing the general 12 idea, what a parade will be for Kerr County, like I said 13 by the end of July. 14 MR. HARRIS: Yes. 15 MR. WARREN: And people in the committee are 16 cooperative. We're fairly -- we're -- exchanging of 17 ideas is very interesting. And we have some members 18 that did not attend the first meet, that we have a -- 19 master list is not the right word, but a list of people 20 who wish to contribute and just could not make the first 21 meeting. We've haven't forgotten them and they are on 22 our list for the second, third, and fourth meetings. 23 Whatever it takes. They'll be key contributors to the 24 idea of pulling off the parade, such as the fund 25 raising, delivery of items, scheduling of such as 23 1 insurance payments to port-a-potties, things that -- 2 critical things that you need when you get a large crowd 3 assembled. 4 I'll let Jeff talk about the details of the 5 parade and route. 6 MR. HARRIS: Thank you, Byron. 7 Commissioners and Judge, thank y'all for having us here 8 today. What we have discussed, and Judge correct me if 9 I leave anything out, you were there. We are going to 10 have -- and I've got confirmation, at our next meeting 11 we will have City officials there, as well as 12 representatives from the Sheriff's office. 13 As we are going to request to close one 14 section of Thompson Drive. As Judge put it, I get the 15 idea, short and big. So short being the parade route. 16 Starting back at Hill Country Drive, going down Cully, 17 across the street into the park flow over where the 18 amphitheater is in Louise Hays Park. That way we can 19 have separation for Veterans Day. 20 It will be on Saturday, the 12th of 21 November, winding up if we don't step on any feet with 22 the -- or any toes over at the VA, maybe have their car 23 show come over to the park. As well as food trucks, 24 port-a-potties, live entertainment at the amphitheater, 25 and just a day to celebrate veterans because that's what 24 1 it's all about. And -- but we are still working on 2 start times, finish times, and getting all of the -- the 3 food trucks and all the activities. 4 Unfortunately, we were going to try to have 5 like a bounce house to really get the kids involved 6 because that's what this whole thing started with, is 7 remembering when we were kids and going to Veterans Day 8 parades and seeing everything. The problem is this 9 bounce house, it's really hard to get insurance for. 10 Most insurance companies won't even write a policy for 11 it now. So we're just going to have other fun 12 activities. Maybe a dunking booth with Byron in it. 13 Not really. But -- so -- but that's -- that's the plan 14 for -- for November. 15 And our next meeting, as Byron said, is the 16 18th at 5:30 at Pint and Plow. Jeremy has been very 17 gracious to open up the back conference room of Pint and 18 Plow for us to have our meetings at. So thank y'all. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 20 MR. WARREN: Any questions that we may can 21 answer? 22 JUDGE KELLY: Just to make sure that the 23 public understands when we talk about short and big. 24 We're talking about the parade beginning up by where the 25 ambulatory care center is, coming down Cully and then 25 1 across Thompson into the park. Short parade, but big. 2 So that we've got the veterans marking in the parade. 3 I'm pretty excited about it. 4 MR. WARREN: The effort to contact veterans 5 organizations in Kerr County, and some organizations 6 outside of Kerr County, like the border patrol and the 7 Naval base out in Corpus Christi, which in the prior 8 parades they have shown up. That is going to be 9 discussed at our next meeting, and then active -- 10 proactive activity toward contacting -- trying to get 11 them scheduled, our confirmation groups will participate 12 in our parade. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I think the public can 14 see that the Marines have landed and they've invited the 15 rest of us to come show ourselves. So we're ready. 16 MR. WARREN: Anything else? 17 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 18 MR. WARREN: Thank you, sir. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Thank you. Good meeting 20 you. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Vicki, did you want to say 22 anything? 23 MS. MARSH: No, thank you, sir. We're on 24 board. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. 26 1 Item 1.8 -- technically we're not at 9:30. 2 Okay. So let me skip to the next one, an untimed item, 3 which will be item 1.20, Sheriff Leitha, that is 4 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 5 a $1,000.00 cash donation from a citizen for the 6 Sheriff's Equipment Fund. 7 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yes, sir. Judge, 8 Commissioners, just looking for your approval. They 9 sent me $1,000.00 to put in our Equipment Fund. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 12 JUDGE KELLY: We got a motion and a second 13 to approve the donation to the Sheriff's Equipment Fund. 14 Any discussion? These in favor raise your hand. 15 Unanimous, five zero. 16 1.21 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 17 action to approve two $100 cash donations from citizens 18 for the Sheriff's Equipment Fund. Sheriff Leitha. 19 SHERIFF LEITHA: Same thing. Just looking 20 for y'all's approval to accept two different $100 21 donations and place it in our Equipment Fund. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 23 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We've got a motion and 27 1 a second to approve accepting two $100.00 cash donations 2 for the Sheriff's Equipment Fund. Any discussion? 3 Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 4 SHERIFF LEITHA: Thank y'all. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.22 consider, discuss 6 and take appropriate action to approve the First 7 Amendment to the Policy for Use of Kerr County 8 Courthouse grounds. Commissioner Belew. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: This is Court Order 10 No. 36714, and this has to do with the lighting of the 11 courthouse that we've discussed in the past. The 12 amendment -- and the County Attorney can help me with 13 this. So if you can jump in there and -- 14 MRS. STEBBINS: I can. You got it. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. So the change of 16 the lighting of the courthouse grounds and building 17 during the holiday season, between October the 29th and 18 January the 14th, 4th of July and Texas Independence 19 Day, and something else. But it's an amendment to the 20 Court Order No. 36714 and I move for approval. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 23 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Third. 24 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 25 second to approve the revision to the prior Court Order 28 1 No. 36714 as presented. Is there any discussion? Those 2 in favor raise your hand. Wow. We're moving along 3 pretty fast here. 4 MR. REEVES: I have one, if you want to call 5 that, number 13. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, we skipped over 7 one that wasn't timed. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Oh, I missed that. Sorry, 9 Bob. Item 1.13 consider, discuss and take appropriate 10 action to approve the contract for the Assessment and 11 Collection fees between Kerr County and Kerr County 12 Emergency Services District No. 4. Bob Reeves. 13 MR. REEVES: Good morning, gentlemen. As 14 you will recall on November 2nd, 2021 the voters in West 15 Kerr County approve the formation of Kerr County 16 Emergency Services District #4. A contract was drafted 17 and subsequently approved by the Kerr County attorney, 18 authorizing my office to assess and collect property 19 taxes for this District. I respectfully request the 20 Court approve the contract and authorize the County 21 Judge to sign. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 29 1 second to approve entering into a contract between Kerr 2 County and the Kerr County Emergency Service District 3 #4. Any discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 4 Unanimous. 5 MR. REEVES: Thank you, Judge. 6 JUDGE KELLY: And Bob, you did hear our 7 shout out to you today? 8 MR. REEVES: Yes, sir. We greatly 9 appreciate it. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We really appreciate 11 what you've done. 12 MR. REEVES: We appreciate it. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. I think we can go back 14 and pick up the 9:30 item now, which is 1.8 consider, 15 discuss and take appropriate action to open Sealed Bids 16 for the lease of the Kerr County Juvenile Facility 17 located at 3499 Legion Drive. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: There's only one, Don. 19 This is one from Rite of Passage. And I suspect it's 20 going to be hard to announce it, the details of it. 21 JUDGE KELLY: I think while he's looking 22 through that, let me just give a brief background so the 23 public understands what we've got. 24 We have an old juvenile detention facility, 25 a 48-bed unit that we've been using basically for 30 1 storage and election, pretty much. And we've had 2 people -- been approached by several private and public 3 entities wanting to fix that facility up and rent it. 4 So we put out a request for proposal, and this is the 5 first time we've gotten a bid on it. We've only got the 6 one. 7 We've been talking to these people probably 8 for at least two years. And so, hopefully we'll be able 9 to generate some revenue for the County by using that 10 facility. And at the very least, get it fixed up so 11 that whether they renew the lease or not, we've got a 12 facility we can actually use. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: In the real short 14 summary of the terms that they propose, it's a -- it's 15 actually the term of the lease is two years, with some 16 extensions built into it, at a rate of $15,000 per month 17 for Kerr County. And then there's some other provisions 18 about repairs and alterations and things of that nature. 19 But I make a motion that we accept the bid and refer it 20 to County Judge and County Attorney and -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: And Juvenile Probation. 22 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- and Juvenile 23 Probation to review and come back with a recommendation. 24 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: And we've got a motion and a 31 1 second. And by way of discussion, when this whole thing 2 came up, and this is a shout out for Commissioner 3 Gipson. I want you to know what he did. We tried -- we 4 were talking about selling the property, which -- but 5 the County can't sell property without an Appraisal and 6 we couldn't find an appraiser that would apprise this 7 facility because there's only two private facilities in 8 the State. And the other one they weren't paying 9 anything because they had spent all the money to fix it 10 up. So we went through that. 11 Commissioner Gipson came on board and sat 12 down and started working with us. And in order to lease 13 it, we have to have -- if we're going to sell it, we 14 need to have a comparable sale of some sort or lease. 15 We need to show some sort of income stream on it. And 16 so, his idea was that if we put out a request for 17 proposal and see what a willing lessor might be willing 18 to pay to lease the facility so that we can establish 19 the fair market value, which is what we just did. So 20 this has been quite a coo for us being able to find a 21 way to put that property back in the circuit. And kudos 22 to Commissioner Gipson on that. Now, for those of you 23 who don't know, he's a longtime appraiser. He 24 understands how to skin the cat. 25 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Well, I finally said 32 1 we need to get about two or three bids. I was hoping 2 that we would get more than one bid. Because we had one 3 bid that was terrible. After the repairs, I feel 4 confident we'll have multiple bids once it's repaired 5 and two years from now and then we'll be very confident 6 in establishing or getting an appraiser to give an 7 answer with market value. And that's going down the 8 road. 9 JUDGE KELLY: And by way of a footnote, when 10 I first came on the Court we actually -- the Court 11 actually toured the facility thinking about if we 12 couldn't find a use for it. Possibly tearing it down so 13 we could build a courthouse annex or some -- some other 14 things that we're talking about doing in our bond issue. 15 And so rather than having a facility that we couldn't 16 use at all, we found a way to generate -- not only to 17 repair it, generate short-term income, and provide to me 18 to be able to have a much more favorable lease in the 19 future. So this -- this is a good example of the County 20 being good stewards of -- of what we've been given to 21 manage. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: And to save money as 23 well. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. Good job, 33 1 Beck. 2 JUDGE KELLY: So, those in favor raise your 3 hand. Unanimous. 4 Okay. Let's move on to Item 1.9 consider, 5 discuss and take appropriate action to appoint Robert 6 Hamm to the Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board. 7 Mary Rohrer. Oh, Mark Mosier 8 MR. MOSIER: Judge, Commissioners. Mark 9 Mosier, President of the Kerrville-Kerr County Airport 10 Board. As many of you probably remember, we have a five 11 member Board working on an Interlocal Agreement between 12 the City and County because the airport is owned by the 13 City and the County. 14 In the past few years, we've realized 15 there's a lot to learn out there, a lot to know, a lot 16 of responsibilities. And one of the biggest fears was 17 losing more than one member a year. So we have -- now 18 the term limits are five years where we cycle a member 19 each year. So it's great and it helps the continuity. 20 We also encourage interested parties who may 21 not have been members of the Board to get involved, 22 which the person that we've endorsed unanimously to the 23 Board today is Bob Hamm. And Bob has gotten very 24 involved this last year on various committees, which I'm 25 very pleased. That's actually how I got my start in the 34 1 Airport Board ten years ago. 2 So I'd like to just briefly -- I can stand 3 up here and talk about Bob for a long time since he is 4 quite an experienced guy. But he's an active pilot. He 5 has 46 years of professional experience in airport 6 management with a variety of responsibilities. And he's 7 an extremely hard worker, which I have firsthand 8 experience now. Responsible. Outstanding communicator. 9 Very optimistic with a contagious attitude definitely 10 worth catching. And he gets things done. He completes 11 all projects he takes on. I love it when it's off my 12 list, on his. Done. 13 And his history at airports includes, but 14 not limited to, his management, budgets, he developed 15 organizational plans. He works for the staff of over 16 450 people. And he managed assets in excess of 4.5 17 billion. I can't count that far. What really impressed 18 me, is he has a doctorate in organizational management. 19 You know, I -- I mentioned earlier our Board 20 is very strategic. It's interesting, it keeps getting 21 better every year. We have -- everyone seems to be an 22 expert in their own area and it makes for a very 23 interesting meeting, let me tell you. Because we're all 24 different. We're not the same at all. But usually the 25 outcome is very healthy. But I'm going to stop there. 35 1 Bob, would you like to say a couple words. 2 MR. HAMM: Good morning, Judge. Good 3 morning, Commissioners. It's an honor and a privilege 4 to be here before you folks today. 5 Thank you, Mark, for the kind words. And my 6 time working around airports comes -- stems from 44 7 years of experience in the United States Air Force. I 8 enlisted in the Air Force in '75. And a few years later 9 became an aircraft maintenance officer. So our mission 10 took us all around the world. Middle East and Bosnia 11 and all over the United States. So my experience with 12 the airport has not necessarily always been as a flier. 13 I'm a commercial pilot, but my time in the Air Force was 14 all logistics. 15 And so, this airport, I've flown out of here 16 since 2007 and I'll tell you it's been an honor and 17 privilege to do that. It's a great airport and I just 18 stand before you today and humbly ask your permission to 19 serve the City and the County and the airport community 20 as a member of the Airport Board. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll move for approval. 22 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 23 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 24 second to approve Bob Hamm to be appointed to the 25 Kerrville/Kerr County Joint Airport Board. Is there any 36 1 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Welcome 2 aboard, Bob. 3 MR. HAMM: Thank you, sir. I appreciate 4 that. 5 JUDGE KELLY: If he can wait around just a 6 little bit we'll -- I'll swear you in at the break. 7 Okay? 8 MR. HAMM: That would be great. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.10, which is to 10 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 11 the updated Row Hangar Project scope, funding, 12 construction contract and agent authorization. Mary 13 Rohrer. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: While Mary's walking up, 15 we're not going to take action on this today because 16 we've got to do another step first, but it gets rather 17 complicated and I figured it was a good idea to have 18 Mary explain what we're doing. 19 MS. ROHRER: Hi, my name is Mary Rohrer. 20 I'm the airport manager at Kerrville Airport. And to be 21 honest with you, I'm pretty excited about Bob coming in. 22 I always could use some help. Some of you get our 23 newsletters and I'm a DC engineer. I don't do writing 24 very well and I kept on getting asked to do a newsletter 25 and Bob walked in one way and I said, "Can you help me 37 1 with this?" And he said, "Absolutely." So the 2 newsletter that a handful of you all guys get to see and 3 do is Bob's starting point at the airport so, sure, I'm 4 very amused that Bob is here and now I'm very pleased 5 that he's on the Board. So It's been a -- kind of a 6 double win for me. 7 I thought today we would just get -- give 8 y'all an update about our Hangar Project and I know it's 9 got a couple twist and turns so I figured I'd get 10 everybody back on the same page. So there's this slide 11 show, there's a couple slides in here, and then there is 12 also a handout that was -- I think Jody provided to you. 13 The front page looks like this. We'll run into that 14 later on, but right now we'll just kind of go through 15 the slide show. 16 So that's the airport property. The pink 17 star is basically the area that we'll be talking about 18 today. That's where the proposed hangars will be 19 located. So if you could go to the next slide that 20 would be a big help. 21 So here is basically a slide of our existing 22 hangars and our hangar program. So right now we have in 23 that photograph adjacent to that pink square, four 24 hangar buildings. And they're called T-hangars. And 25 they have 28 aircraft stored in those four buildings. 38 1 Those are typical aircraft you see around the airfield. 2 There are Cessna's, there's Mooney's. They are 3 individually -- generally individually owned. 4 They are referred to as airplanes that are 5 based at our airport. So they are based aircraft that 6 we can count as they call us home. So it's important 7 for us to keep base aircraft at the airport. They are 8 our airport community. It's very important for them, 9 because they also support our airport businesses. They 10 purchase fuel, they take care of goods and services that 11 we do at the field, as well as repair aircraft, as well 12 as write big checks for avionics, so they are basically 13 what I call good tenants. They provide us, the airport, 14 a steady income because they write us checks to rent 15 those airport hangars themselves. 16 They currently -- those 28 aircraft 17 represent about 25 percent of our annual revenue that we 18 get our rental fees from. So also, we have 30 pilots 19 that are on our waiting list looking for aircraft. So 20 we also have a demand for additional hangars here at the 21 airport. 22 So outlined in pink is the area that we 23 approached TxDOT with when I first got here about 2019 24 to build new hangars. And the grant we -- was provided 25 and discussed in 2019 was for the amount of $900,000, 39 1 which included a $600,000 TxDot grant and $150,000 for 2 each one of our owners and cities in the county. 3 Next slide, please. 4 So these are what's called T-hangars and I 5 know I've had a whole bunch of conversations about 6 T-hangars this past couple days, so I just want to give 7 everybody a little briefing. So on the right side of 8 the slide is just an exhibit of the T-hangar. So what 9 it means is looking at it, it's a rectangular building. 10 But once you kind of look at it from above, looking 11 down, the actual space that is rented is actually sort 12 of a T-shape. 13 So, in other words, there's interior walls 14 that make it a "T" and that's the reason why they're 15 called T-hangars. So it's actually just because of the 16 design of the actual leased premise in the hangar. So 17 these are double-sided hangars. The planes -- the top 18 plane on that upper left-hand corner will be pulling out 19 to the left. The next one down would be pulling out to 20 the right. So they're basically a double-sided hangar. 21 Our initial plan that we proposed to TxDOT was ten. 22 So after getting ourselves involved with the 23 TxDOT grant and getting things moved forward, we 24 marketed consultants and a consultant began work on the 25 drawings and the plans. And we ended up with a handful 40 1 of delays due to COVID and other risk factors that 2 happened from 2019 into 2020. 3 By the time we were able to push the project 4 all the way through to be -- in order to get a cost 5 estimate and be able to understand what our project 6 would be, that cost that we thought was pretty 7 substantial at $900,000 came in at a million seven. So 8 it was -- we were -- we were off. You know, big time 9 off. 10 So we basically said to TxDOT, we went in 11 and said hey, how do we get a project that gets us back 12 to our budget? How do we get ourselves back to what we 13 can do? Mark and myself and Stephen Schmerbeck, our 14 other Board member, went and visited with them and we 15 basically reduced the scope of the work in more than 16 half. So, in other words, we simplified the project. 17 We worked on trying to figure out how we can 18 get ourselves back from a very large number to a more 19 reasonable number and tried to figure out how to move 20 some things to be a little bit more efficient. 21 So I also wanted to point out to you the 22 area on the left, which is where the T-hangars would be 23 -- would have been located. There's also a blank area 24 right there that would have been for future users that 25 might want to build their own hangars. Who -- in other 41 1 words, we wanted to make sure we took advantage of folks 2 that had been actively wanting to build their hangars at 3 the airport. 4 So that's sort of what our process was. So 5 you can go to the next slide. 6 We worked with our engineers then to vastly 7 simplify it. We took out all those inside walls. We 8 took out the double-sided part of the hangar project 9 itself. So there's really only a asphalt taxiway, if 10 you want to call it, on the left side of the hangars. 11 Each door doesn't have the "T" in it, it's just a 12 square -- or rectangular box. The doors open to the 13 left. The planes come out, they go out onto the ramp, 14 and they taxi to their spot, and they come back in. 15 Very simple. 16 We also then pulled the whole project down, 17 closer to the existing taxiways, tried to reduce our 18 costs, tried not to get ourselves caught up in all sorts 19 of grades and issues in here. And we worked with our 20 engineers and with TxDOT aviation again to work on this 21 project. So I think it's probably about as efficient as 22 we can get. 23 We -- again, the engineer's estimates were 24 high. We were like what can we do to save some money 25 and get our costs back down again? Basically TxDOT 42 1 worked with us to help us -- that allowed us to be able 2 to manage more of the construction contract than what 3 was previous. We were able to spend -- save some money 4 that way. But we went ahead and here in -- here in 5 April we actually went out and solicited bids. So we -- 6 we got the drawings prepared. 7 We got the bid set prepared for a four-unit 8 row hangar. So I call these "row" because there are 9 four in a row, versus "T" which is a multi-sided 10 building. So I know there was some confusion about row 11 versus T-hangars. 12 So the proposed project that we are coming 13 before you is for row hangars, four units in that 14 general configuration. And then the other part of it is 15 that that main pavement line of that area would then be 16 able to be used on the further left if folks want to 17 build their own hangar, then they can connect into that 18 asphalt as well. So in other words, it comes sort of 19 two-sided by allowing our ability to use the 20 infrastructure for more than just that. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Mary, before you go on? 22 MS. ROHRER: Yeah? 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The $900,000 part of it, 24 that was approved by the County, correct? 25 MS. ROHRER: Yes, that's correct. 43 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But that project was 2 approved, the money moved into the airport fund and was 3 budgeted in that year, into 2021, 2020? 4 MS. ROHRER: Yes, 2020. Yeah. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Anyway, so that money 6 was -- it sat over there, and it was budgeted in a 7 previous year to spend it, but then the numbers came in 8 too high so it was pulled. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How much -- how much 10 did this change? This looks more efficient. 11 MS. ROHRER: Yeah. 12 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Because you don't have 13 as big a pad and so much pavement. 14 MS. ROHRER: Right. Right. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How much square -- how 16 much did it change the square footage? 17 MS. ROHRER: You know, I don't know off the 18 top of my head. It probably reduced it. It reduced it 19 quite a bit. Probably in half. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How much -- will they 21 rent for the same amount that it would have? 22 MS. ROHRER: I'm sorry? 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Will it rent for the 24 same? 25 MS. ROHRER: No, it'll have a larger -- it 44 1 will have a higher rent. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: A higher rent with 3 this? 4 MS. ROHRER: Per square foot. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. 6 MS. ROHRER: Because number -- per square 7 foot is higher rent and -- and total rent because it's a 8 larger space. So, number one, we wanted the things that 9 we work on on developing rental income is the width of 10 the doors. So these are larger widths because we've 11 been asked to have -- folks that have planes that have 12 larger, longer wings have a hard time getting into our 13 smaller hangars, so we've increased the width of the 14 doors. And then because it's -- it's just a rectangle 15 and then their square footage is larger than the 16 T-hangar rent. So in other words, we have two things 17 going on, the square foot rate will be more and then the 18 square footage -- the actual square footage of the 19 hangar would be more than the hangars. Whether it would 20 take place of ten, probably not. But it's -- it's 21 definitely got more appeal, more income than it would 22 have out of a single one hangar should. 23 COMMISSIONER BELEW: True. So that's a win 24 on two levels. 25 MS. ROHRER: Yeah. It's -- it's on both 45 1 levels. 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Awesome. 3 MS. ROHRER: All right. So that was the 4 first item on the list was just to kind of give you an 5 update of why we did what we did. So then the second 6 thing is more about the project itself and that's more 7 that y'all received this weekend. 8 So this was -- this is a project proposal 9 that we are coming to y'all to review and approve. I 10 booked it next meeting and basically this includes the 11 $600,000 TxDOT aviation grant, the $150,000 of City and 12 County funds, and then funding that then the airport 13 would contribute. 14 We have some available fund balance within 15 our airport fund that we would contribute in, as well as 16 possibly the inclusion of the airport rescue grant 17 depending on the funding for all of that. 18 So if you take a look at that, we've already 19 spent some money. So we've spent -- we've probably 20 spent about, well, probably about $150,000 doing all 21 these plans and making the changes and getting the bid 22 sets put together, putting all that together. So of the 23 $600,000 TxDOT aviation grant, about 500 is remaining. 24 Because they paid for, you know, $90,000 of our 25 engineering plans for that. And we've also contributed 46 1 ourselves some as well. 2 So this is the total cost versus the net 3 cost. So not -- the current cost of this is the total 4 cost of this project and then we'll be continuing to 5 move forward with proposal of how we need to approach 6 this and spend the proposed budget. 7 So again, this is more than the $900,000. 8 It's at a million seven but we've also reduced the scope 9 and reduced what we could to try and look to see what we 10 could do to add some -- at least some hangars for our 11 airport community and provide some more base aircraft. 12 On the second page is -- of the handout is 13 our engineer Garver, they do a standard letter. They do 14 a letter of recommendation of the actual bid results, so 15 this is the letter of recommendation of working with a 16 company called Don Jackson Construction. They're based 17 out of -- out of Waco, and they do lots of hangers all 18 over Texas. I spoke with three other airport managers 19 that highly recommended these guys to come out and do 20 our work. So I was really, really pleased that we are 21 able to work with them. They've been very helpful with 22 me, developing strategies and talking about cost as well 23 as our engineer. 24 If you take a look at the next page, you can 25 see the actual bids that were received that day for that 47 1 hangar program. The column one is the engineer's 2 estimate, which was $924,000, and the construction 3 contract itself is $895,000. So I finally got a -- it 4 finally got to a point where we could actually see that 5 we could put something together here, adding a little 6 bit more of airport money and working within the system 7 that we had prepared and worked with on TxDOT. So those 8 were the parts and pieces of the bid opening, which 9 occurred in April. 10 Again, the next message, just making sure 11 that everyone is aware, we also had a -- y'all had -- 12 Jonathan has worked with this sewer project. This 13 spectrum is the same thing as it was with some of these 14 other Federal documents, and we have huge spec books 15 that are arranged with all the different parts and 16 pieces of it. 17 I just copied the first couple pages of it 18 so you all could see the -- the methodology of what we 19 were. So many issues occurred with hangar projects here 20 over the past few months is that it was having to do 21 with preformative material. We all know with the fuel 22 prices and what happened there, concrete prices, now the 23 doors. You can't find the doors. So we in the bid 24 actually allowed the contractor up to 180 days to get 25 all the materials and make sure they could have -- they 48 1 wouldn't start and stop. So whenever they're ready to 2 go, they're off and they've got to get it completed 3 within 150 days. 4 But we wanted to make sure we made it 5 friendly enough for bid. I had time. I just needed -- 6 I needed to save my pennies on money. So I was waiting 7 to make sure that we got ourselves together. And so Don 8 Jackson has been giving us a pretty aggressive schedule 9 of what he thinks he could do to get it completed. 10 Actually be -- get all the materials ahead before -- 180 11 days complete. 12 And then I think the last one is just one of 13 the document in all of the TxDOT documents, a set of 14 documents, is just a designation of the owners, 15 authorized representatives, and this is just asking both 16 the City and the County to just authorize me to be able 17 to manage it for you all as part of being the airport 18 manager and the project manager. So those are what we 19 have in front of us. 20 Jonathan might be able to speak about what 21 our different actions are and what -- where we need to 22 do to be able to complete the project. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. And we really 24 can't take action on this today. It's an Interlocal 25 Agreement -- well, two things. The biggest issue is -- 49 1 the reason we want to bring up is we approved this 2 project and budgeted it previously; however, it's not 3 budgeted for this year because TxDOT told us we weren't 4 going to do it this year. TxDOT now funded it this year 5 but it's not in the budget. We can't declare an 6 emergency to get us there, so we have to do some 7 tweaking in the Interlocal Agreement, which the City's 8 fine with and we're working with them on so that we 9 could move the money from the airport fund back into 10 this year's budget. That's why we can't take action 11 today. And that'll be coming up. 12 There's a few other things on the Interlocal 13 Agreement that Heather and E.A. and myself are now 14 working on, and it wasn't quite a hundred percent today 15 so we'll do it -- both of these items we'll take action 16 on at the next meeting. 17 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What's going to happen 18 in that -- are there any allowances for change in the 19 materials cost in 180-day time frame? Is there 20 something in the contract to cover that? 21 MS. ROHRER: No, it's fixed. They -- that's 22 how it was bid. They have 180 days and -- and that's -- 23 they -- they put their numbers together and that's -- 24 that's where it is. 25 JUDGE KELLY: So just to clarify, I've got 50 1 Mark in the back of the room along with Mary. What 2 we've heard today is the information of the conversion 3 from the old T-hangar project that we had in our budget 4 to the new row hangar as we're now calling it, for lack 5 of a better term. 6 MS. ROHRER: Right. 7 JUDGE KELLY: And all of this was occasioned 8 because of TxDOT -- we had -- we had a grant and then we 9 didn't have a grant and now we got the grant back. And 10 we split budget years. 11 MS. ROHRER: Right. 12 JUDGE KELLY: So we've got some legal 13 technicalities, budgetary technicalities that we have to 14 iron out. So what we did today was give us the 15 substantive presentation of the project in its current 16 condition, the current state, and then at our next 17 Commissioners' Court meeting we'll actually be able to 18 take action on it. Did I get it right? 19 MS. ROHRER: You did good. Thank you very 20 much. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Mark? 22 MR. MOSIER: Again, Mark Mosier, Board 23 president. I'd like to really thank Jonathan. You've 24 been a tremendous help. Tremendous. And this is -- 25 I've never worked on a project that's had such a moving 51 1 target, such as always moving between Kerrville and 2 change in administration at TxDOT -- 3 JUDGE KELLY: Everything's flying around. 4 MR. MOSIER: Yeah, that's right. But it's 5 been -- it's been -- and the relationship has gone on 6 for years and it keeps changing. But it's been a chi 7 maker(phonetic). I mean, we've had committees and -- 8 and Mary has been tremendous. Sometimes I have to talk 9 her off the ledge, this has been unbelievable. But nice 10 job trying to wrap it up here and explain that. 11 But the changes that Jonathan's going to be 12 discussing in the next week, even without the immediate 13 need, the logic and -- and we need to support that. And 14 Mary did touch on it. To me, it's a positive thing that 15 these hangar doors went from about 40 feet to 48 feet. 16 Because that provides other opportunities. We only have 17 ten spaces. I mean you'll recall the Brinkman hangar at 18 six, and then we have four over that at what we call 19 paint hangar. 20 As an airport, we only control ten spaces 21 that can house larger aircraft, like corporate aircraft 22 for businesses. You know, these hangars are 48-foot 23 wide doors. You know, we look at height of tails. And 24 there are some aircraft that this will greatly be 25 favorable to that are more corporate types. 52 1 So airports are a balance of different kinds 2 of hangars for health. You just can't have -- you know, 3 all apartment complexes and no houses. You have to have 4 a balance to work it out. You know, the next -- the 5 owner of the next big company you would want to see here 6 may have a Piper Cub he wants to keep there. It could 7 be something small. But this -- this is very important 8 to our infrastructure and we are booked up to here. 9 There's no space anywhere. I would love to have an 10 empty box hangar and empty corporate hangar and T-hangar 11 at any given point in time. But it takes money. So 12 thank you again for your support. Appreciate it. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we're going to pass 14 on Items 1.10 and 1.11 for the next Commissioners' Court 15 meeting. And I want to finish up the timed items at 16 9:45, which is 1.12 consider, discuss and take 17 appropriate action on the request from the Hill Country 18 Youth Event Center on behalf of the Border Terrier Club 19 of America to use the Dog Park side of Flat Rock Park 20 March 17-19 of 2024, exclusively for the Earth Dog 21 Trials portion of their event. Jake Williamson. 22 MR. WILLIAMSON: Good morning, Your Honor, 23 Council. Thanks for taking the time today to discuss 24 this item. We've been approached by multiple groups, as 25 y'all know, for events. The Border Terrier Club of 53 1 America is a national group that has put out bids for 2 their 2024 trials as well as Earth Dog Trials, so it's 3 an all-encompassing dog show. A combination of agility 4 trials, and what they call Earth Dog. 5 They've selected us as one of the top places 6 to come to. In essence, we've won the bid if we can 7 fulfill their needs. Part of their need because it's a 8 specialty group, a Border Terrier has an Earth Dog 9 portion of their trial. It's a barn hunt. It involves 10 going through tunnels to find things. 11 Our property at the Hill Country Youth Event 12 Center is great for many things; it doesn't meet the 13 requirements for their barn hunt as there's no place to 14 hide. It's kind of a hidden event. Flat Rock Park with 15 the Dog Park, however, has some very unused areas that 16 are overgrown, weeded, perfect for what they would like. 17 So they've asked me to come to court today and see if we 18 can get approval to use that part of the park for their 19 event. 20 As in your packet, it shows it will be for 21 three days, one day for prep, one day for the trial, one 22 day for de-prep. The prepping includes digging four 23 tunnel sections of 12-inches deep. So we're not talking 24 about a massive construction project. It's just 25 something that they have to be able to bury these 54 1 tunnels for these dogs to run through. Your maps show 2 that three of these areas are in unused areas completely 3 of the park and one is down by the river. None of these 4 diggings will damage the riparian of the area of the 5 banks or any of the park. 6 And once they're done with the project, 7 these holes will be filled right back in. Their tunnels 8 will be taken and grass can regrow right over them. So 9 we're asking the Court today for permission for that 10 because we would ask to close that portion of the park 11 to the public for the safety of their attendees as well 12 as the construction project. Just to have space to work 13 and have a good time. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: How many attendees are 15 expected for an event like this? 16 MR. WILLIAMSON: Sure. The expected 17 attendance right now is no less than 400 entries for 18 animals, so 400 dogs. Some of these people might bring 19 ten. Much like the San Antonio Kennel Club that comes 20 here, a lot of those people bring a lot of animals. So 21 we're looking at probably 200, 250 individuals from 22 outside the area, that don't live here. They would 23 come, stay in hotels, visit the sites around town, as 24 well as use the infrastructure of the town for that 25 weekend. 55 1 And the event actually lasts longer than 2 these three days. They'll be at the Event Center for 3 four or five days doing all these things. So in our 4 mind, as a tourism area it brings new people to town. 5 Very minimal compromise from the public to allow dogs to 6 use the dog park area, it's typically a public area, as 7 well as the Event Center for a good economic impact. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Well, Jake, I want to make 9 sure I understand three points. One, the use of the 10 park as requested is going to be for part of it that is 11 unused now, that's overgrown and weeded. It's full of 12 weeds and everything, right? 13 MR. WILLIAMSON: Uh-huh. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And that's going to be 15 prepared and then it's going to be reclaimed back to a 16 natural area, right? 17 MR. WILLIAMSON: Correct. Within a 18 three-day period. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So first of all, it's 20 for use of part of the park that's not used and it's 21 actually going to get improved, right? 22 MR. WILLIAMSON: Correct. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Secondly, part of the 24 park is going to be open for -- 25 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What's the improvement? 56 1 JUDGE KELLY: Huh? 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: What's the improvement? 3 Fill up the hole? 4 JUDGE KELLY: Well, it's going to be graded 5 back without weeds on it. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Right now nobody can use the 8 part where the weeds are. 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: It'll be no worse than 10 it was before. 11 COMMISSIONER BELEW: That's all I wanted to 12 hear. 13 JUDGE KELLY: The park is going to be 14 continuously open. And part of the park will still be 15 open for public use. 16 MR. WILLIAMSON: Correct. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Is that correct? 18 MR. WILLIAMSON: Yes, sir. The main area. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Part of the dog park or 20 part of -- the dog park is closed but the main Flat Rock 21 is open? 22 MR. WILLIAMSON: Right. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 24 MR. WILLIAMSON: That's what we're 25 requesting. 57 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And maybe you said 2 this but -- and I missed it, Jake, the 12-inch tunnels 3 are digging how long? 4 MR. WILLIAMSON: I believe the area from the 5 packet is up to 30-feet long. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. All right. 7 MR. WILLIAMSON: They're not in a straight 8 line. There's -- 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: And they'll bring 10 their own trencher? 11 MR. WILLIAMSON: They're going to rent one 12 from a local contractor. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Can people watch this? 15 MR. WILLIAMSON: Of course. That's -- 16 that's even -- that's encouraged. Like any dog show 17 that we have, the public is encouraged to come out and 18 enjoy all parts of that, to include the Earth Dog Trial. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's interesting to a 20 lot of people. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I'm -- I'm sure it's 22 entertaining. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll move for approval 24 of the agenda item. 25 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 58 1 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 2 second to approve the use of Flat Rock Park for the 3 Border Terrier Club of America for March 17th through 4 19th of 2024. Any other discussion? Those in favor 5 raise your hand. Unanimous. 6 MR. WILLIAMSON: Thank you for your time. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Let's take about a five minute 8 break and we'll come back. And when we come back, I'm 9 going to take -- take it out of order to take the 10 Aggregate Production Operations meetings for the 11 advisory council first and then we'll go into the 12 regular session. Okay? 13 We'll be in recess. 14 (Recess.) 15 JUDGE KELLY: The Court will come back to 16 order. We're going to take Item 1.25 out of order, 17 because we have so many members of the public here, we 18 want to be able to hear your concerns. And that is to 19 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 20 paying additional consulting fees to Jill Shackelford 21 for her work at the Aggregate Production Operations 22 advisory council. 23 For those of you that don't know, we 24 formed -- I guess it was, what, not quite a year ago. 25 We formed an advisory council for the Aggregate 59 1 Production Operations here in East Kerr County. It's an 2 11-member Board. We've got three members of the public 3 that live out there. We've got three members of the -- 4 that are producers out there. We've got another three 5 members that -- that are representatives of public 6 entities, like the City, the County and the Airport 7 Board. And then we have two that represent the 8 businesses out there. So it's an 11-member Board that 9 is very diversified, and we've been meeting on average 10 about every two months. 11 And Jill Shackelford, as you'll recall, we 12 retained her to help get this thing organized. She did 13 a marvelous job. She got us organized. Got us staffed. 14 And has brought these specialty speakers to us and she 15 has asked whether or not we want to keep her on on a -- 16 probably coming once every couple of months. But she's 17 done a wonderful job of troubleshooting issues, working 18 with the various producers and the homeowners out there 19 and other concerned parties to try to keep everything 20 peaceful. 21 And I know that sounds weird to say the word 22 peaceful but it has been remarkably amicable the way we 23 have worked through our issues. And so a number of 24 members of the Board and the concerned people in the 25 area that come to the meetings are here and we want to 60 1 be able to afford them an opportunity to be heard. 2 If you will recall, the last action we took 3 was several months ago to approve two more meetings at 4 $500.00 a meeting. And we've had the -- well, we've had 5 those two meetings. We've had one meeting and we've got 6 one more. And so they're here today to talk about 7 whether or not we keep Jill Shackelford on in some sort 8 of limited basis to help with the -- the issues that are 9 out there. 10 So that's what we have before the Court 11 today. And I know we have a number of representatives 12 here that would like to speak. Let's see. Number one 13 on here is Francis Lovett, as always. 14 MS. LOVETT: Well, I think first of all -- 15 JUDGE KELLY: Identify yourself. 16 MS. LOVETT: Sir? 17 JUDGE KELLY: Identify -- 18 MS. LOVETT: Oh. I'm Francis Lovett. 19 6749 Highway 27. 20 JUDGE KELLY: And you've lived out there a 21 couple months? 22 MS. LOVETT: Yes, sir. More than we need to 23 talk about. But I -- I think we as a -- as citizens and 24 in the County owe a great deal of gratitude to this 25 Court, because you guys have walked a tightrope for 61 1 many, many years between all the aggregate interests and 2 the local citizens. It has been difficult and you've 3 had town hall meetings. You've had discussions here in 4 court. You've done resolutions. 5 But the culminating -- the crown jewel, I 6 think, is when you all agreed to the aggregate advisory 7 council. Because we have already resolved a lot, which 8 has just been bouncing back and forth over the years. 9 Now, the one person here who could probably 10 give us a history of all this is Commissioner Letz. But 11 we don't have time for that so. 12 (Laughter.) 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I like you better 14 already. 15 JUDGE KELLY: You're welcome back anytime. 16 MS. LOVETT: Well, I reviewed the item today 17 deals specifically, I think, with paying Miss 18 Shackelford and the agenda item seems to me specific to 19 APO meetings. 20 Now, much of the Court's discussion around 21 Shackelford's payment fees focused on hourly 22 compensation for shepherding us through meetings. Now, 23 I will assure you that Judge Kelly runs a tight ship. 24 He is quite capable of getting through meetings. But he 25 could never claim to know diddly about earth mining. 62 1 That is why -- 2 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Getting better yet. 3 (Laughter.) 4 MS. LOVETT: -- we need Shackelford's 5 insight into what is possible and reasonable. And 6 meeting time is really not an accurate reflection of her 7 work or her professional contribution. Much of our 8 value lies in the time she spends between meetings. As 9 Judge said, she contacts stakeholders, she coordinates 10 contacts between interests, and she chases down 11 complaints. 12 Advisory council member interests are often 13 in sharp disagreement. Now, when I say APO, I mean the 14 quarry, the hot mix asphalt plants, concrete batch 15 plants, the stock piles, and the truck traffic. So when 16 the APO -- so the -- in looking at the disagreements 17 between all the APO interests, we hear the APO claim 18 their right to operate for a profit. And know that they 19 only dig along the river because that's where the gravel 20 is. 21 Kerr citizens are beginning to realize that 22 they have rights also, including a right to breathe 23 fresh air, enjoy their property free of dust, noise, 24 light, pollution, and adverse health affects. 25 Shackelford has visited all our APO sites. She's 63 1 established relationships with operators and begun 2 negotiating resolutions. We need an expert because 3 there's some things -- operators speak a different 4 language. A neighbor sites dust, but the operator 5 speaks a future of emissions. 6 Health complaints are countered with TCEQ 7 air model calculations. Even the aggregate operators 8 themselves don't speak the same language. As to the 9 fine water conservation, you will get at least three 10 different answers. Much is at stake. We have a cluster 11 of APOs within established residential areas, school and 12 hospitals. One known new housing development, and 13 another rumored within the five mile high risk range. 14 Kerr County growth needs the aggregate 15 materials. Stresses and tensions are sure to develop 16 between interests. The advisory council is our best 17 hope of solving inevitable conflict. Shackelford is 18 working with other state organizations and one of our 19 local operators to solidify best management practices. 20 We need Shackelford's guidance because there's no one 21 else in Kerr County or the entire state with her 22 aggregate business experience. There are a few TCEQ 23 retirees that are working as consultants out there, but 24 none of them have owned and operated a quarry. 25 And finally, I -- I would submit that an 64 1 efficient solution would be a contract with Shackelford 2 for one year for a set dollar amount, and let Judge 3 Kelly decide when and where to use her expertise and 4 time. And I will try answer any questions. I'd like to 5 give you all an updated resume of hers, if I could. I 6 think it's updated since y'all last -- 7 JUDGE KELLY: Give them to Commissioner 8 Belew and he'll pass them around. 9 MS. LOVETT: Thank you. 10 JUDGE KELLY: The next speaker we have is 11 Arturo Galindo. 12 MR. GALINDO: I'm Arturo Galindo. I'm 13 the -- I live at 170 Hermann Sons Road. I am the 14 operations manager for RA Materials, just outside of 15 Comfort. We're here to talk about Jill Shackelford. 16 She has experience in dealing with public relations that 17 we have not had here in Kerr County. She is very ambit 18 about communication between, you know, different 19 aggregate producers, the government entities, and the 20 people at large. 21 And through her work, we're able to discuss 22 issues with our neighbors and find good ways to better 23 manage things. We've also found a outlet to be able to 24 explain what our final plan is with the property and let 25 people know that we're not just digging material and 65 1 leaving a big hole. There is a plan for life after 2 mining. 3 She has communicated with me personally, 4 probably three or four times between each meeting 5 addressing, you know, issues that we have, issues that 6 she has heard from others, so this way we -- we can all 7 work together to make sure that we continue to have a 8 peaceful discussion of the different issues at hand and 9 find ways to resolve them. She has done a wonderful job 10 and I think her experiences will lead to us having 11 further success with this program. So that's all I 12 have. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well done. Thank you. Next 14 is Stan Kubenka. 15 MR. KUBENKA: Yes. My name is Stan Kubenka. 16 I live at 219 West Creek Road, Kerrville, Texas. Thank 17 you for allowing me to speak today. I've attended all 18 the meetings and I come out with one word for those 19 meetings. Solutions. I've seen a lot of solutions to 20 the problems of this mining that's been going on for 21 probably 30 plus years. 22 Jill, with her expertise -- I don't know how 23 you found her, but she -- I've seen lots of consultants 24 and she's truly a working consultant. And she has 25 helped the miners comply with their regulations that a 66 1 lot of them were out of compliance. Just that alone 2 right there from the safety and standpoint of liability. 3 She's brought the TCEQ with the water master 4 in to create solutions on water. UGRA has been brought 5 in. Another resource on how the rivers affected the 6 preparing. There's other future -- like Joan said right 7 here with reclamation. We're going to bargain for this. 8 The taxpayers and the citizens are really getting their 9 monies worth. 10 And also from a personal standpoint, though 11 I do not live close by these folks, but I've seen the 12 witness of a lot of neighbors that live there and it's 13 heartbreaking to hear some of the stuff that they have 14 to put up with and how they're trying to negate that 15 noise and dust abatement. So I think any money you 16 spend on this is going to be well worth it. 17 In addition to that, you have other 18 stakeholders, like the airport, is concerned about it. 19 James Avery is concerned about it. So again, this is 20 all very good and I think it's also going to be a 21 template that we're creating for the state because this 22 whole thing about quarries is not going away around the 23 State. So again, thank you for your time and 24 consideration. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you, Stan. 67 1 MR. KUBENKA: You're welcome. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Kari Potter. 3 MS. POTTER: Good morning, everybody. Kari 4 Potter, 428 China Street in Center Point. I came on 5 board with attending the meetings a few months back. 6 Frances reached out to a local women's group that I'm 7 involved with to get more women involved in the meetings 8 themself. So that's how I was -- I drew the short 9 straw, I guess. 10 But anyway, it has been a blessing. I live 11 directly across the river and up a bit from Wheatcraft. 12 And so, as I stated, I knew Wheatcraft was there when we 13 purchased our property. And I've also stated that my 14 husband and I have probably purchased materials from 15 every quarry up and down the Guadalupe River Valley at 16 one time or another. And so I'm not here to speak 17 against the quarries, but it is -- it has been a really 18 good thing in attending the two meetings that I've 19 attended, to learn that there are ways that the 20 community itself and the producers can have a meeting of 21 the mind and, like Stan said, come up with some 22 solutions. Because I'm concerned about our surface 23 water, our ground water, and the aesthetics in general. 24 And possibly future reclamation, if -- if we get there. 25 But speaking on Jill, I haven't had a whole 68 1 lot of time around her. But I would say she's a class 2 act and she definitely runs a tight ship. And you get 3 into the meeting and you are well advised, and she is 4 there to answer any questions you might have. As 5 Francis said, she has operated her own quarries in the 6 past, and so bringing that information from that side 7 and to speak for the producers, but then also being a 8 citizen herself now in the general population is 9 beneficial. 10 And I was reading an article that was shared 11 with me yesterday that aggregate production in Texas has 12 increased by 30 percent since 2005 and it's not going 13 anywhere, as we all know. I mean, some people have 14 said, well, but I -- I want to Xeroscope my yard. Okay. 15 That might save water. But those products come out of 16 these very quarries that we're speaking of. 17 So I would just encourage you all to keep 18 the meetings going. To keep Jill on retainer or with a 19 set salary for the year. It has been super beneficial. 20 Thank you. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. Vern Langsdorf, 22 MRS. LANGSDORF: I'm Lenore Langsdorf. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 24 MRS. LANGSDORF: I think we got the names a 25 little bit confused. 69 1 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. I've got you both on 2 here. 3 MRS. LANGSDORF: Yes. And we both live at 4 155 JJ Lane, which is one property away from one of the 5 quarries. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Just to clarify so the public 7 knows who is speaking, this is Lenore Langsdorf. 8 MRS. LANGSDORF: Yes, sir. Thank you. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 10 MRS. LANGSDORF: We live at 155 JJ Lane, and 11 have for the past more than a dozen years. And so we 12 have noticed the growth in aggregate production in the 13 County. We realized that this is not going to go away. 14 We need the aggregates. But we do need some sort of set 15 regulation system or expectation system. The sort of 16 thing that Jill Shackelford can advise us about. We 17 need an expert whose run her own quarry, has instituted 18 practices that make them congenial to the neighborhood. 19 Walking my dog day before yesterday next to 20 our neighbor's property is an enlarging quarry. They 21 get larger all the time. We worry about the water 22 supply. It's a big problem for Texas in general. And 23 the aggregate production is something we need 24 economically, but we can also regulate it to fit both 25 the residents' needs and the economical needs of the 70 1 State. Thank you. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. Vern. 3 MR. CRAWFORD: I'm Vern Crawford, 155 JJ 4 Lane. Just a clarification. Although Lenore and I were 5 married here in Kerr County some 30 years almost ago -- 6 MRS. LANGSDORF: A while ago. 7 MR. CRAWFORD: -- she didn't make me change 8 my name. And I kept it as a professional, I guess. I 9 just want to just in general say that I have been very 10 impressed. We only came on board to being at the 11 meetings the past couple of meetings, but I've been 12 involved in contentious situations in communities and 13 walking into the kinds of meetings, informative 14 meetings, solution oriented meetings that Jill has 15 helped facilitate, it's just a breath of fresh air. 16 Being able for all of us to get together with different 17 interests and -- and work out peacefully solutions that 18 -- that are best operating principles and such as that, 19 it's important. 20 So I -- I highly recommend that the County 21 retain in some form, shape or fashion Jill's fine 22 service to -- to this community. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Well, with that I'm going to 24 go ahead and make a motion that we continue to negotiate 25 with Jill Shackelford. We can do it on a per meeting 71 1 basis, although you heard that much of what she does is 2 not at the meetings, it's before the meetings. But to 3 negotiate some sort of consulting agreement with her. 4 And -- yes, ma'am? 5 SPEAKER: Judge, we had one person that 6 didn't fill out his paper. Could he speak? 7 MR. KAPLAN: It's okay with me to not speak, 8 Judge. 9 JUDGE KELLY: I'm sorry, go ahead. 10 MR. KAPLAN: My apologies and thank you. 11 And thank you, Frances, although I did not ask her for 12 that special exception. Thank you. 13 Commissioners, Judge. I'm Cliff Kaplan. 14 I'm the program director for the Hill Country Alliance. 15 And in that capacity, I also serve as the secretary of a 16 statewide group called Texans For Responsible Aggregate 17 Mining. I've been attending and participating in the 18 discussions at the meetings for three or four meetings 19 now. And I guess everything that's been said I agree 20 with. 21 I guess I'll just make a couple quick 22 points. That Jill is uniquely qualified to do some of 23 the key things that are done at these meetings, which is 24 establish a shared set of facts about what is allowed, 25 which is not allowed, what is occurring, and what is not 72 1 occurring at the mine. And she's able to do that 2 because she has knowledge of what goes into mining and 3 she has relationship with these producers and with the 4 community and she has the esteem of both the aggregate 5 operators and with the community participants and that 6 really makes her unique and allows her to create a 7 shared set of facts and -- and forge relationships 8 between community members and the aggregate miners, that 9 then allow her between meetings to resolve issues in 10 ways that you've already heard described. 11 I think it's a huge value to Kerr County, as 12 somebody already said. It's really setting a path for 13 other counties to follow. And I think that's enormously 14 important as well. So that's it. Thank you very much. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you for speaking. 16 The motion that I'm making is just for us to 17 be able to -- I would like -- I ask you to authorize me 18 to negotiate with Jill and bring back her -- for Jill to 19 bring back her recommendations as to what she might be 20 able to do and to stay on as a consultant with this 21 group. That's all we're trying to do. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, why did -- why do 23 we need to change it from what we've been doing? 24 JUDGE KELLY: Well, because the original 25 contract that we signed, the original consulting 73 1 agreement, had her in -- we signed it. We passed it and 2 we signed it, at $275.00 an hour. And that's been a 3 little rich for our blood. She's been very agreeable 4 and open to setting down and negotiating with us on it. 5 But we didn't have any authority to do that until we 6 came back to Court, so that's what we're here for today. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: In her current contract 8 she has one more meeting? 9 JUDGE KELLY: We've got one more meeting 10 that we have already approved at $500.00. We've got 11 that -- we've already approved that. So what we're 12 looking at is to sit down and renegotiate the original 13 consulting agreement so we're not paying $275 an hour. 14 We have some control over what the expenses are. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Is that a motion? 16 JUDGE KELLY: Yes. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Any discussion? 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. It sounds like 20 we got what we paid for. And the right person to get 21 things started. But it was my understanding we would 22 get this going, and she would get this advisory 23 committee or board going, and then it would be 24 self-sufficient and go on from there. That's my only 25 question is we didn't -- we haven't reached that point, 74 1 I guess. That they still -- everybody feels like still 2 needs Jill, rather than operating so its own. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and the people are here 4 to tell you, to give you their impact on it, but my 5 understanding was that we brought Jill on to get us 6 organized. And she did. And -- and what we're learning 7 is that her ongoing involvement has been most beneficial 8 because she brings these expert speakers to us. She 9 interfaces and troubleshoots for the problem before we 10 get to the meeting so that when we're there, we're 11 actually able to solve some problems and walk away with 12 the consensus. And it's that ongoing involvement that 13 was not originally contemplated that we're finding is 14 beneficial and I think that's what you're hearing them 15 say. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. Well -- you 17 know, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I thought it 18 was a little bit different. But I like what I hear from 19 everybody and -- but -- 20 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Most of it falls in my 21 precinct and -- 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: -- it evolved into 23 more than what I thought it would. 24 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: -- and I've had 25 nothing but quality feedback on it. And I don't get a 75 1 lot of feedback because I'm moving, but everybody's 2 jumped on this. To reiterate, it may be the same people 3 but they reiterate what has been said today. She's 4 obviously a key component in keeping the peace and I -- 5 I could see how that could blow up real easy. 6 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So she's got the cats 7 and dogs in the same room. Nobody's fighting. You have 8 a producer and a neighbor sitting side by side. That 9 all speaks well of her. But nobody really told us why 10 she is a key component going forward. Do we just trust 11 one another? Have we not learned enough yet? Nobody 12 spoke to that at all. Everybody spoke about how highly 13 they recommend her. What a nice person she is. What a 14 good job she does. 15 MR. KAPLAN: One of the things -- and I 16 guess -- 17 JUDGE KELLY: I'm sorry, I can't hear. This 18 is on YouTube. 19 MR. KAPLAN: One of the things that she 20 brings to the table that is very unique is that her 21 experience as a mine operator, she was in an area that 22 was over the Edwards Aquifer zone. They were very 23 violent. She talks about the first meeting she had with 24 her neighbors, they had to have armed security there. 25 And she has that experience to where when they were at 76 1 the end of her time there, they were having the meetings 2 at country clubs, having dinners and all that. With -- 3 with her experience with how to head that off. It -- it 4 gets us into a spot where we're, instead of dealing with 5 misinformation because that's one of the things we see 6 all the time is everyone on Facebook is an expert, you 7 know, so you have a lot of misconceptions about what is 8 actually happening at the mines and not. So there's 9 distrust to begin with. 10 She has experienced that firsthand and is 11 able to circumvent that and bring us together in a way 12 that both understand what each other wants, needs and in 13 a language that everyone understands. 14 MR. KUBENKA: Can I say something? 15 JUDGE KELLY: Sure, Stan. 16 MR. KUBENKA: Stan Kubenka. Real quickly. 17 Don, we'll call it midway through the strain is what has 18 happened. There's so much new information comes in that 19 it's creating what the Judge says, new things that we 20 didn't know about. Also, like, for instance I think an 21 economic impact study could be coming down on this. 22 What the quarries bring in, and not only taxes but 23 income, so there's still more out there to be done and I 24 don't think our group here locally truly has the 25 expertise to address that and can come to something more 77 1 of a final conclusion. 2 I think another six months to a year is well 3 worth it because it's going to get more solutions and 4 that's what's been lacking all these years is we didn't 5 have solutions. We just had yelling is what we had. 6 Now we're working for solutions is what I see. 7 JUDGE KELLY: And -- and let me get a couple 8 of concrete examples to address your concerns. When 9 Ingram Readymix decided that they wanted to move their 10 operations from up there off Sidney Baker out to where 11 all the other quarries are out there in Precinct 2, they 12 applied for a permit. And there was a lot of 13 misunderstanding and mis -- and apprehension about how 14 much more traffic, how much more dust pollution there 15 was going to be, and -- and all these concerns. 16 Well, Jill understood that because that was 17 a concrete batch plant that he was putting out there, 18 the entrance was going to have to be paved instead of 19 the dirt roads that they have at some of the other 20 places. But what that ended up doing, she went and 21 explained it to all the homeowners out there and the 22 businesses that this is actually going to reduce traffic 23 because -- moving traffic out of downtown to out there. 24 And it's going to be on asphalt rather than on dust. 25 And so a lot of the initial opposition to Ingram 78 1 Readymix coming out was subsided because of the 2 explanation that she was able to give because of her 3 expertise and she knows diddly. I don't know diddly 4 about production. 5 Another concrete example that we have is 6 noise abatement. One of most nerve-wracking things we 7 had out there for the people that live on that river, 8 and there's nothing that producers can -- well, there -- 9 we thought there was nothing that producers could do, it 10 turns out that there was, is the backup noise that you 11 have to have on that heavy equipment out there. And I'm 12 telling you, it's -- it is -- you know, it'll drive you 13 crazy just listening to it. 14 And there was tremendous friction between 15 the homeowners and the businesses out there and the 16 producers other that sound. And Jill has been 17 successful in getting all of them to -- all of the 18 producers to voluntarily put Quackers rather then that 19 obnoxious sound, which is still -- it still is an alarm 20 for the people so they don't get run over by the heavy 21 equipment, but at the same time it's much more palatable 22 for everybody out there. And that's the type of 23 expertise -- she ran all of those to ground before we 24 showed up at each of those respective meetings. So that 25 problem was solved by the time we walked in the door. 79 1 And so that's -- and those are things that I wouldn't 2 know to do. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think she's -- I mean, 4 what she's doing is very beneficial and that's why I 5 seconded the motion. But I think part of that would 6 also be we need an exit plan for Jill. I mean I -- we 7 don't want her as a permanent consultant. And that's 8 part of the -- that's part of one of the things that we 9 need to look at. And I think she'll be honest with us. 10 You know, how much longer is she really needed here. 11 And how do we -- and what do we do when she is in longer 12 here? How do we keep the whole process going? 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: A game plan going 14 forward. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: That's kind of what I 17 was asking. You know. 18 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, we -- we all 20 heard about the benefit before all of this was 21 established, and then we heard back that it was working 22 well. And so, we probably did like Stan said, we got a 23 little ahead of ourselves when we're in the middle of it 24 and we had hoped to be done by now. It was a question 25 of timing. But the goal could still be that we wean 80 1 ourselves off of her professional help and take care of 2 it ourselves, I think. At least that's what it looks 3 like from here right now. It may not later. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I agree. 5 JUDGE KELLY: So we're looking at trying to 6 negotiate something, maybe six -- six months, no more 7 than 12? 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think -- I think get 9 her input -- 10 JUDGE KELLY: Just -- now the authorization 11 to negotiate something. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Because right now we don't 14 have the authority to do anything. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I just -- you know, 16 visit with her. Maybe she comes down -- she obviously 17 can do it over the phone and you can relay it too, or we 18 need to have her come down. But, you know, how long 19 does she think she's really needed? And, you know, how 20 do we -- what do we do after she's no longer here. How 21 do we keep the process moving? 22 JUDGE KELLY: So that would be part of the 23 scope of the engagement? 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I -- I have a question 25 about the producers. Is there an association of 81 1 producers here? You guys get together and talk? 2 MR. KAPLAN: There are multiple different 3 organizations that producers can get together. There is 4 no set standard. I don't know of any organization that 5 all the ones in Kerr County are a member of. I know us, 6 ourselves, we -- we are not currently members of any -- 7 any type of organization on a professional level. 8 JUDGE KELLY: The only time I've seen all 9 these producers together at one time is at our meeting. 10 MR. KAPLAN: Right. 11 JUDGE KELLY: I don't know how much they 12 speak to one another. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: You know, with our -- 14 our volunteer fire departments, for example, they have 15 their association. A lot of different organizations. 16 It might be beneficial if -- if -- I'm not telling you 17 what to do. But at least for them to be at these 18 meetings and then talk separately. It wouldn't hurt, I 19 don't think. 20 MR. KAPLAN: No. No, it really wouldn't. 21 It would be an efficient way to get consistent best 22 management processes, you know, across the counter. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Any other discussion? So the 24 motion and the second that we have before the Court is 25 to authorize a negotiation with Jill Shackelford as a 82 1 plan, an exit plan, with regard to how long it's going 2 to take for us to be able to get this thing to be 3 free-standing and self sufficient. That's what we're 4 looking for. Is that right? 5 Any other discussion? Those in favor raise 6 your hand. Okay. And I'll get with Jill Shackelford to 7 report back. We'll have another meeting between now and 8 then. So thank you all for coming. We appreciate your 9 input. 10 Okay. Time. We're running late. I 11 apologize. Time for the ten o'clock docket. I'll start 12 with Item 1.14, which is a public hearing for revision 13 of plat for Paloma Ranch, Lots 10 and 12. 14 I will convene the public meeting. We'll 15 have order at this time. Is there anybody here that 16 would like to address the Court with regard to the 17 revision of plat for Paloma Ranch, Lots 10 and 12. 18 There being none, we'll move on to Item 19 1.15, which is consider, discuss and take appropriate 20 action for the Court to approve a revision of plat for 21 Paloma Ranch, Lots 10 and 12. Charlie Hastings. 22 MR. HASTINGS: This proposal combines Lots 23 10 and 12. They're currently 5.01 acres each, into 24 Lot 10A, 10.02 acres. Road project will remain on 25 Paloma Ranch Road. 83 1 A side note, Paloma Ranch Road is currently 2 under construction; however, that doesn't preclude the 3 owner from revising these lots into one lot. I talked 4 with the owner's surveyor of why are they doing this, 5 and it's because they would like to build -- they own 6 both lots and they'd like to build right there on the 7 lot line. 8 So County Engineer requests the Court 9 approve the revision of plat for Paloma Ranch, Lots 10 10 and 12, plat file 21-10485. This is Precinct 4. And we 11 just held a public hearing and no one spoke. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 13 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 14 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 15 second to approve the plat revision for Paloma Ranch, 16 Lots 10 and 12. Any other discussion? Those in favor 17 raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. Thank you. 18 Item 1.16 consider, discuss and take 19 appropriate action on a request for extension of 20 preliminary plat for the YOHQ Ranches subdivision. 21 Charlie Hastings. 22 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, this preliminary plat 23 was approved on May 10, 2021, just nearly a year ago, by 24 the order number 38713, and that order expires tomorrow, 25 May 10th, 2022. The developer is requesting the 84 1 preliminary plat be extended. There is a letter that is 2 attached from Lee Voelkel. 3 Section 6.02.E.3 of the Kerr County 4 Subdivision rules and regulations says in part that a 5 preliminary plat or a conditional approval of 6 preliminary plat may be effective for one year from the 7 date of approval or a conditional approval by the 8 Commissioners' Court, and that the Commissioners' Court 9 may permit one extension of the request if the request 10 for extension is received before the expiration date of 11 one year. 12 As I mentioned before, the expiration date 13 expires tomorrow. This preliminary plat proposes 25 14 large tracts, they are all over a hundred acres each, 15 with new two private roads. Access to the subdivision 16 will be off of Y.O. Ranch Road. A portion of the 17 subdivision is in the floodplain and must meet 18 requirements for development within the floodplain. 19 And I would like to read the letter that we 20 received from the surveyor for this subdivision. It's 21 from Lee Voelkel, dated April 27th, 2022, and the 22 subject is Extension of Preliminary Plat for YOHQ 23 Ranches Subdivision. It says: Charlie, the Preliminary 24 Plat of YOHQ Ranches Subdivision was approved by 25 Commissioners' Court on May 10th, 2021 by Court Order 85 1 No. 38713. Since then, the development was put on hold 2 because the owner was selling the property. 3 The sale of property occurred on February 4 25th, 2022. The new owner wants to move forward with 5 getting the final plat approved and recorded. On April 6 19th, 2022, I submitted the final plat and routing slip 7 to your office in hopes of being on the Commissioners' 8 Court agenda for approval at their meeting on May 9th, 9 2022, prior to the one-year expiration of the 10 preliminary plat. It appears now that there are a few 11 items that have not been completed, specifically the 12 final approval of the roadway construction plan and the 13 financial guarantee for improvements. So they're not 14 quite ready for the final plat. 15 For those reasons, we respectfully request 16 that Commissioners' Court grant an extension of the 17 preliminary plat at their next meeting on May 9th, 2022, 18 prior to the preliminary plat expiration date. This 19 request is made pursuant to Item 6.02.E.3 of the Kerr 20 County subdivision rules and regulations. We understand 21 this is a one time extension and the extension period 22 will be at the discretion of the Court. 23 Please place this request on the agenda for 24 the next meeting of Commissioners' Court on May 9th, 25 2022. Let me know if you need any additional 86 1 information. As always, thank you for your help in 2 these matters. 3 County Engineer requests the Court consider, 4 discuss and take appropriate action on this request for 5 an extension of the preliminary plat for YOHQ Ranches 6 Subdivision in Precinct 4. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I was going to ask Lee 8 but I see he's left. This is the original deal that 9 Eric White brought before us, wasn't it, in the -- 10 MR. HASTINGS: Yes, sir. Nothing has 11 changed. All the lot lines and roads are all the same. 12 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. I move for 13 approval. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We've got a motion and 16 a second to approve the extension of the preliminary 17 plat for the YOHQ Ranch Subdivision for what, a year? 18 MR. HASTINGS: Uh-huh. No more than a year. 19 JUDGE KELLY: No more -- not to exceed one 20 year. Any discussion? Well, frankly, I know we can't 21 require preliminary plats anymore. And I'm just 22 grateful that our local surveyors are working with us to 23 do that. It was very beneficial to the County to have 24 the time to be able to review these. And it's this type 25 of cooperation that I would hold out to all the other 87 1 developers out there, engineers and surveyors working 2 with us to use as a model. And I'm greatly in favor of 3 extending this to get it right. So with that, those in 4 favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 5 Next is item 1.17 consider, discuss and take 6 appropriate action for the Court to set a public hearing 7 for 10 a.m. on June the 13th, 2022, for a revision of 8 plat for the Y.O. Ranchlands, Tracts 46B, 46C, and 49A. 9 Charlie Hastings. 10 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This is a 11 bit older of a subdivision. It's been around for a long 12 time. It's in Volume 6, which tells me it's -- it's 13 pretty old. This proposal adjusts and combines three 14 existing tracts into two tracts. Tract 46B, which is 15 currently 42 acres, Tract 46C, which is currently 42.05 16 acres, and Tract 49A, currently 45.88 acres, will be 17 revised into Tracts 46BR and 49AR. 18 Tract 46BR will be 63.03 acres, with road 19 frontage on Camino Y.O. West. Tract 49AR will be 66.90 20 acres with road frontage on Camino Y.O. West and Indian 21 Camp Road. 22 The County Engineer requests the Court set a 23 public hearing for 10 a.m. on June 13th, 2022 for a 24 revision of plat for Y.O. Ranchlands Tract 46B, 46C, and 25 49A. It's in two different subdivisions, Volume 5, Page 88 1 345, and Volume 6, Page 128. This is Precinct 4. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 4 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 5 second to approve setting a public hearing for 6 10:00 a.m. on June the 13th for a revision of plat for 7 the Y.O. Ranchlands, Tract 46B, 46C, and 49A. Any 8 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 9 five zero. 10 1.18 consider, discuss and take appropriate 11 action for the Court to approve a final plat for the 12 Classic Hunt Addition. Charlie Hastings. 13 MR. HASTINGS: This proposal creates three 14 lots. The property consists of 3.43 acres and several 15 existing structures with existing utility connection and 16 existing septic system. It's in Hunt, Texas. Lot 1 17 will be 0.55 acres with frontage on Highway 39 and FM 18 1340. Lot 2 will be 1.48 acres with frontage on Highway 19 39 and FM 1340. And Lot 3 will be 1.4 acres with 20 frontage on FM 1340. Lot 3 is in the floodplain and 21 must meet requirements for development within the 22 floodplain. 23 The property owner is requesting the Court 24 to allow Lot 3 to have 15 feet of road frontage. 25 Section 7.04, access to roads of the Kerr County 89 1 Subdivision rules and regulations requires 200 feet of 2 lot frontage on an arterial road. But it also states 3 that minimum lot frontage distances may be reviewed by 4 the Commissioners' Court and lesser distances may be 5 approved based on lot density, topography, and other 6 mitigating factors recommended by the county subdivision 7 administrator, and subdivisions within a high density 8 development area and where the above minimum lot 9 frontage distances are not practical will be considered 10 on a case by case basis. 11 I have looked at this. That 15-foot of 12 access, if you drive by there you can see it. It's been 13 like that for a long, long time. That's how they get to 14 the back. And this plat just solidifies all those lines 15 once and for all. 16 The County Engineer requests the Court 17 consider, discuss and take appropriate action to approve 18 a final plat for Classic Hunt Addition, Precinct 4. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 20 MR. VOELKEL: I believe TxDOT -- and we said 21 that TxDOT, they approved the final. 22 MR. HASTINGS: TxDOT approved it? 23 MR. VOELKEL: Yes, sir. 24 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 25 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 90 1 second to approve the final plat for Classic Hunt 2 Addition as presented. Any other discussion? Those in 3 favor raise your hand. Unanimous. Thank you. 4 The next item is 1.19 presentation 5 concerning the 2023 annular eclipse and the 2024 total 6 eclipse. Dub Thomas. 7 MR. THOMAS: Good morning, Judge. Good 8 morning, Commissioners. So I've got a short 9 presentation here today. What I want to talk about and 10 inform you about is two events that are going to be 11 pretty significant for Kerr County. Both economically, 12 and as far as what resources we have available to take 13 care of them. So in 2023 and 2024, we're looking at -- 14 the first -- the next slide, please. 15 The 2023, we're looking at the annular 16 eclipse, which is going to start on September -- I'm 17 sorry, Saturday, October the 14th. It's going to trace 18 a narrow path angularly across eight states. So in 19 order to experience that, you've got to be located 20 within a very narrow area of angularity to witness the 21 eclipse. 22 Next slide, please. 23 You'll just have to notice that some times 24 and durations vary depending on which city you're in, 25 where your location is before the -- at the time of the 91 1 eclipse. 2 Next, please. 3 So the 2023. This is the annular eclipse. 4 It's going to -- these are the eight states it's going 5 to go through and the order that it's going to go 6 through. Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, 7 Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. 8 Next slide, please. 9 Just here locally some of the places around 10 Kerr County, Kendall County, where you will be able to 11 see the eclipse. For like Ingram, it'll start at 11:50 12 a.m. and its duration is 4 minutes and 24 seconds. 13 Kerrville, four minutes and 18 seconds. Bandera, four 14 minutes and 45 seconds. 15 Next slide, please. 16 So further along as the eclipse goes over 17 the larger city, which will be San Antonio -- and it 18 gives a little description of that, where San Antonio 19 is -- a large diamond-shaped area in the Texas Hill 20 Country to the west of San Antonio is where the eclipse 21 pass. Both the 2023 and the '24 eclipse, their paths 22 are going to overlap, and that's going to be in 23 Vanderpool. So the exact center points where the lines 24 cross will be in the tiny town of Vanderpool. So like 25 it says, if you're inclined, if you want to go to both 92 1 places and be able to say that, you know, I sat where 2 both eclipses crossed, you can go to Vanderpool. 3 Next slide, please. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Maybe. 5 MR. THOMAS: Do what? 6 JUDGE KELLY: Maybe. 7 MR. THOMAS: Maybe. The 2023 eclipse, here 8 they're talking about everybody that's going to be able 9 to come. Kerrville is basically a -- we're right in the 10 middle of where this is going to show up from. You can 11 get here from I-10. It's a quick jump from San Antonio, 12 Austin, any of the large metropolitan areas around the 13 state. 14 So there in red, it says all these 15 interstate highways will make getting around this part 16 of Texas easy on eclipse day, especially if cloudy skies 17 require a quick move to a different location. So these 18 folks are -- they will go where it's going to be 19 sunshine. So if you're here and it's a cloudy day and 20 they find out that it's clear in Austin, they're going 21 to vacate from here and they'll follow it all the way 22 across to Austin or San Antonio. 23 Next slide, please. 24 So this is the annular eclipse, the path. 25 You can see that green line right there is the path of 93 1 annularity, and the two yellow lines on either side of 2 it are about as far away as you can go and still be able 3 to see the eclipse. You can see it goes right 4 through -- I can't see it very well from here. But 5 anyway, it goes right -- right through Kerrville. 6 Next slide, please. 7 And this is where the path continues all the 8 way down to where it goes through San Antonio and down 9 into Corpus Christi and into the Gulf of Mexico. 10 Next slide, please. 11 This is the big one. April 8th, 2024, which 12 is a Monday, we're going to have a total solar eclipse. 13 There will not be another total solar eclipse on the 14 United States continent until the year 2045. 15 MRS. DOSS: 20 what? 16 MR. THOMAS: So the total eclipse is going 17 to trace a path across 13 of the United States, and I've 18 got another map here that will show that in just a 19 minute. The yellow lines outline the limits of the path 20 in totality, and the green middle line represents the 21 eclipse center line, which is where you're going to see 22 the most darkness for the longest period of time. 23 So to experience the total phase of the 24 eclipse in each state, you must be between those yellow 25 lines, and the closer you are to the green center line, 94 1 like I said, the longer it's going to last. The areas 2 outside the path of totality, outside those green -- or 3 yellow lines won't see -- won't see nearly as much. 4 Next slide, please. 5 So in 2024 the total eclipse is -- is 6 expected to last substantially longer than the last one, 7 which was in 2017. 2020 -- I'm sorry, April -- August 8 21st of 2017 was the last total solar eclipse in the 9 United States. And one of the center places that I've 10 talked to was Beatrice, Nebraska, which is in Gage 11 County. 12 Again, like I said, there will not be 13 another total solar eclipse over the United States -- 14 that says 2024, it's actually 2045. So when I talked to 15 the Sheriff in Beatrice, Nebraska, their population is 16 at 12,300 for the City. The County population is 17 21,513. 18 Next slide, please. 19 Again, this is the path, the total eclipse 20 path as it comes through, you know, Texas -- 21 Next slide, please. 22 -- that's the total path for the entire 23 United States. 24 Next slide. 25 So when I talked to Sheriff Millard 95 1 Gustafson of Gage County, they had incurred -- about 2 30,000 people came to Beatrice, Nebraska, which means 3 they doubled their population. They did have some 4 traffic issues. He wasn't able to tell me too much 5 about other issues that they may have had, he wasn't 6 there at the time. And the emergency management 7 coordinator for -- at the time is no longer there so the 8 person that I talked to used to be their -- was their 9 travel coordinator. 10 I have been trying to get an accurate review 11 from them and have not been able to get one, but I did 12 get one from another location and we'll talk about that 13 one in just a minute. But the Sheriff did say, the key 14 to their success was planning. And that's what I think 15 we need to start working on here in Kerr County. 16 Next slide, please. 17 So in Carbondale, Illinois the eclipse of 18 2017 had a population of 26,000. They expected 30,000 19 to 90,000 people to view the eclipse. Again, some of 20 the areas of concern were traffic flow, drivers pulling 21 off the roadway, permits for vendors, permits for 22 events, sanitation. Which I think is going to be a big 23 issue for us. 24 Next slide, please. 25 But for Kerr County and the Hill Country, 96 1 we're estimating -- or estimates float between a hundred 2 to 150,000 people will be here for the total eclipse, 3 which is in April, the 8th. While I see this as -- it 4 can be an economic opportunity for the County and for 5 the City and City of Ingram, I can also see it's going 6 to be a big drain on our resources, whatever resources 7 we have. We're not going to have enough resources 8 already. 9 Next slide, please. 10 So I see some of the challenges are traffic, 11 food, housing, permitting, large crowds, fuel, medical, 12 sanitation. Traffic particularly. There's going to 13 be -- it's difficult, and especially for folks getting 14 around town for first response. Fire fighters. EMS. 15 And 150,000 people in town is going to be a big, slow 16 traffic. Every hotel room here will be booked up. The 17 airport's going to be full. Every VRBO, every bed and 18 breakfast, everything here will be booked up, not to 19 mention whatever else is going to come in town on the 20 day of these events. 21 I really looked -- since total eclipse is on 22 Monday, I look for those folks to be here probably 23 Wednesday or Thursday the week before to try and mark 24 their spot, wherever they want to go see the eclipse 25 from. In fact, the Convention Bureau has already said 97 1 there's folks calling and looking for spots already to 2 go to witness it, so -- 3 Next slide, please. 4 So this is where both of the 2023 and the 5 2024 total eclipse are basically going to cross. Just 6 to kind of give you an idea of how widespread this is, 7 worldwide, the American Astronomical Society had a 8 conference, a video conference over the weekend several 9 weekends ago and I was on that conference. And 10 Kerrville was mentioned a minimum of five times during 11 that conference. And these are folks that are from all 12 over the country. But there will be people here from 13 all over the world, because this is something that they 14 follow. 15 Next slide, please. 16 Yeah. So this is that conference that I was 17 on. If you want more information, you can go to Great 18 Eclipse dot com, Great American Eclipse dot com, and 19 it'll give you more information on both of those events. 20 Next slide, please. 21 So that workshop, like I said, this can be 22 an economic boom for the County, but they're -- they 23 also talk about several things for the students. This 24 could be a good deal for the students to watch, schools 25 and events to put on, both middle school, high school, 98 1 upper education. They talked about opportunities for 2 schools -- the school districts, opportunities for 3 colleges and universities and preparing community 4 partners for success. And they had a bunch of people 5 talk about some stuff and lessons learned from 2017. 6 Next slide, please. 7 So they also talked about engaging with 8 local and national state parks. Facets of the eclipse 9 outreach. Outreach to unserved communities, essential 10 resources. Engaging with museums and planetariums and 11 science centers and more is a work in progress. 12 Next slide, please. 13 So just to kind of let you know, this -- 14 actually all this planning started about two years ago, 15 pre-COVID. And then once COVID hit, it kind of got 16 squashed for a while. We've started it again. The City 17 has been engaged in planning. They have a committee, an 18 ad hoc committee, looking at how to market this. March 19 30th, the -- I had a meeting for the County on how to 20 plan for this and these are some of the folks that 21 attend, the County Judge, the Kerrville Airport, 22 Convention Bureau, Peterson Regional, Ingram ISD, 23 Kerrville Fire Departments, EMC, Road and Bridge, 24 Sheriff Department. 25 Next slide, please. 99 1 So our next meeting is scheduled for June 2 29th at the Hill Country Youth Event Center. And I've 3 also made -- the list of folks that are coming to these 4 meetings is growing day by day, folks that are coming. 5 So now we're going to have TxDOT, Schreiner University, 6 Texas Division of Emergency Management. 7 I have some specific questions for them 8 about what resources the State's going to be able to 9 provide us to handle this traffic. How is -- does the 10 State have a traffic plan that maybe we're going to be 11 able to piggyback on. And I've also got the West Kerr 12 Chamber of Commerce representatives coming at this next 13 meeting. 14 Next slide, please. 15 These are just some websites you can go to 16 to take a look at that were on that workshop. So I 17 think I have a recommendation for what I'd like to see 18 is I'd like to see the County get some kind of committee 19 going to look at how we can promote this eclipse, how we 20 can market it basically, and what are we going to do as 21 far as trying accommodate some of these folks. We got 22 the Youth Event Center. I think Jake's already had some 23 inquiries about people coming out there and using the RV 24 parks. We've got Flat Rock Park and all those other 25 parks out in the County. What are we going to do with 100 1 those and how are we going to market all this. 2 And then from an Emergency Management 3 standpoint, I'm going to keep having these folks at 4 these meetings and we're going to talk about, you know, 5 this is what's going to happen. What are you going to 6 do to mitigate? How are you going to -- how are you 7 going to handle it? 8 So right now we're going to have these 9 meetings quarterly. We'll have -- we'll have this other 10 meeting on June the 29th. We'll probably do one more 11 quarter after that. And then we'll probably go to 12 monthly meetings. 13 Any questions on anything? 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So you'd like to appoint 15 a committee? 16 MR. THOMAS: Sir? 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You'd like -- you think 18 we should appoint a committee? 19 MR. THOMAS: I think -- I think the 20 Commissioners Court needs to appoint a committee to look 21 at how the County is going to market this for us to -- 22 it's going to be a money-making deal. At the same time, 23 it's going to be -- it's going to drain some resources. 24 But one of the things they talk about at one of these 25 meetings was to make sure that we had some events going 101 1 on in town the day of the eclipse so that those folks 2 would stay here and not everyone try and bail out all at 3 once. 150,000 people trying to get out of Kerrville all 4 at once is going to be pandemonium. 5 So we try to keep them here as long as 6 possible in town, seeing the sites and doing whatever. 7 And then they just gradually leave as they need to. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The agenda item is just 9 for presentation? 10 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So we can't do anything 12 formal today. But who do you recommend on a committee? 13 I mean what are your thoughts, Dub? 14 JUDGE KELLY: Is this for marketing? 15 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Not management. 17 MR. THOMAS: No, I -- I'm going to keep 18 doing my meetings for the emergency management part of 19 it. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Because I'm still worried 21 about port-a-potties. 22 MR. THOMAS: Yeah. Well, that's going to be 23 something we're going to need to take a look at is 24 contractors -- 25 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I don't understand. 102 1 Become it looks to me like it's marketing itself. I 2 mean, they're going to show up. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, we can do some 4 things to try to -- 5 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I get that. But most 6 of those are having to do with -- like you're saying -- 7 like getting people come in and out just a little bit 8 more orderly. 9 MR. THOMAS: Yeah. We're going to do 10 some -- market some type of events like star parties or 11 whatever for folks to hang out and witness -- and take 12 and just stay here for a little while until things can 13 kind of cool off and everybody can get out of town 14 safely. 15 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Well, and the more that 16 you have, the more money that's dropped here before they 17 go. 18 MR. THOMAS: Sure. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I think -- I mean 20 the first thing that comes to mine is Jake. But he's 21 already working with it quite a bit. And I think -- let 22 me think about it. Maybe on our next meeting put 23 together a committee. Probably based on the Bureau, the 24 Chamber, a Commissioner -- 25 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 103 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- and someone from the 2 City. I know the City's already doing some stuff. 3 MR. THOMAS: Well, we've got an ad hoc 4 committee that's taking a look at all the marketing for 5 that. I don't see why we can't meet with them and share 6 it. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Dub, can you share 8 that PowerPoint with us? 9 MR. THOMAS: Absolutely. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Any other questions of Dub? 11 MR. THOMAS: I know everybody here was 12 wanting to be an astronaut when they were a kid so this 13 would be pretty cool. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I did not want, for the 15 record, to be an astronaut. I'm off the ground as high 16 as I ever want to be. 17 (Laughter.) 18 MR. THOMAS: Well, you're a little older 19 now, too. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: One of the things that 21 came to mind is on the traffic and that -- and I don't 22 know how you get this out but, you know, would it make 23 sense for the schools not to have schools that day? 24 MR. THOMAS: Yeah, the one -- one of the 25 school districts that came to the last meeting said that 104 1 they were thinking -- seriously considering not having 2 school that day. 3 JUDGE KELLY: All right. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And the other thing is, 5 and I don't know how you do this, but the Visitors and 6 Convention Bureau, get with the Walmarts and HEBs and 7 all that and say, you know, get your deliveries here 8 early. But, I mean, how do we do that? Do we have -- 9 is there an organization that -- 10 MR. THOMAS: No. We just need to do -- we 11 just need to go through those organizations 12 individually. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I would think 14 everything along those lines would have had -- 15 MR. THOMAS: Well, I hope -- I hope they 16 are. I mean -- because there were some other folks that 17 I -- that came to this first meeting had no earthly idea 18 that this was going to happen. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. Deliveries to 20 have -- you know, take the -- you know, get it here 21 before so they're not trying to come the next day of. 22 MR. THOMAS: Yeah, I've -- I've got plans 23 for the next meeting to try to get HEB there, Walmart, 24 those types of folks. HEB has a large emergency 25 management group and I'm sure that they'll be able to be 105 1 able to filter in and work something out. 2 Just kind of -- you know, we talked about 3 the schools. When somebody mentioned, well, open the 4 football stadium. Just open the football stadium and 5 let them go there. Southern Illinois University of 6 Carbondale had 15,000 people inside their football 7 stadium and 15,000 people outside the football stadium. 8 So, yeah, I don't think we've got the capacity of that. 9 Not at Tivy's stadium, that's for sure. 10 COMMISSIONER BELEW: So now this will be 11 like running an emergency event like the winter storm. 12 You're going to have the CERT guys and the ham radio 13 operators and all those guys. 14 MR. THOMAS: Oh, yes. We'll have -- the 15 emergency operation center will be open. 16 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Everything is all hands 17 on deck. 18 MR. THOMAS: All hands on deck. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: For how many -- how 20 many days? 21 MR. THOMAS: We haven't discussed that yet. 22 The first one is -- the annular eclipse is on a 23 Saturday. I'm not too worried about that one. Just 24 because it's on a Saturday. If these people just walk 25 outside their house and take a look at it. But the 106 1 other one, the big one is on Monday. And that's the one 2 that's followed worldwide and there will be people here 3 from all over the world. So I'm looking at the first 4 eclipse as kind of a trial run or a warm up basically 5 for the big one. 6 JUDGE KELLY: That's just sticking your toe 7 in your boot. 8 MR. THOMAS: I think our biggest issue is 9 going to be traffic. 10 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I was going to ask. 11 Is there any means by which -- so will fuel. I see fuel 12 as a real problem. Driving in one day and then trying 13 to get out. 14 MR. THOMAS: Well, I'll talk to the fuel 15 providers here. I guarantee you, this is going to be 16 worse than a hurricane when they come up here because 17 they're going to -- they're going to drain the 18 restaurant and drain the fuel. You won't go able to go 19 out and eat. You won't be able to get around town. So 20 it's going to be busy. It'll be hectic. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we've got to start 22 thinking about it. 23 MR. THOMAS: We've got to start thinking 24 about it. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Anything else for Dub? 107 1 Thank you. 2 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Last item on the 4 consideration agenda, I think. I got two more items. 5 1.24, which is -- 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's 1.23. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Is it three? 8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 9 action on implementation of the burn ban. 10 We regularly do it. It's time to do it 11 again. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'll make a motion we 13 implement the burn ban per our policy. 14 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 16 second to implement the burn ban per our policy. Any 17 other discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. 18 Unanimous. 19 1.24 consider, discuss and take appropriate 20 action to determine whether to allow the retail 21 fireworks permit holders to sell fireworks to the public 22 in celebration of Memorial Day beginning May 25 and 23 ending at midnight on May 30. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, we're -- we're 25 right there, you know, and part of the County looks like 108 1 it might be getting close, but it's not. So I'm going 2 to make a motion that we approve the sale for Memorial 3 Day holiday with the exclusion of missiles with fins and 4 rockets with sticks. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 6 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 7 second to approve the sale of fireworks on Memorial Day 8 except for missiles with fins and rockets with sticks. 9 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Or is it the other way 10 around? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. The question is -- 12 I mean, who in the world -- I mean I don't think this is 13 a big holiday for fireworks and we're in a bad drought. 14 And while it's a little bit grained out - 15 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: That's my concern. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Look at the forecast. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: -- most of the -- I 18 don't see any reason to do it. Personally. 19 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: I don't either. 20 COMMISSIONER BELEW: I don't know that 21 they'll sell that many. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I don't know that they 23 do. I know that the church is planning on doing theirs 24 in Ingram so. 25 MRS. DOWDY: I get a lot out where I live. 109 1 I have -- there's -- you hear fireworks. 2 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: The forecast is it's 3 not going to get any better. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we have a motion and a 5 second. Any other discussion? Those in favor raise 6 your hand. 7 (Commissioners Belew and Harris in favor.) 8 Those opposed raise your hand. 9 (Judge Kelly, Commissioners Gipson and Letz 10 opposed.) 11 JUDGE KELLY: Three, two. 12 Item 1.26 consider, discuss and take 13 appropriate action to approve the updated job 14 description in the Human Resources Department. Miss 15 Doss. 16 MS. DOSS: Yes, good morning. These have 17 been revised and removed the individual payroll. Since 18 the payroll was transferred to the Treasurer's Office. 19 Both HR Director and the HR Generalist. And the HR 20 Director -- but there was only one removal in the 21 general description and on the HR Generalist it was 22 removed in the general description. And then one 23 under -- one item under essential job duties. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 25 COMMISSIONER GIPSON: Second. 110 1 JUDGE KELLY: There's been a motion and a 2 second to approve the job descriptions -- revised job 3 descriptions as presented. Any discussion? Those in 4 favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 5 MS. DOSS: Thank you. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Moving on to the approval 7 agenda. 2.1 budget amendments. 8 MRS. JOHNSON: Good morning. We have four 9 requests, budget requests. Constable 3 is a line item 10 transfer. Environmental Health, another line item 11 transfer. Sheriff's Department is a line item transfer. 12 And the Extension Office is certifying new revenue. 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 14 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 15 JUDGE KELLY: We have a motion and a second 16 to approve the budget amendment as presented. Any 17 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 18 five zero. 19 2.2 pay bills. 20 MRS. JOHNSON: Today's invoices for 21 consideration is $712,012.42. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 24 JUDGE KELLY: We have a motion and a second 25 to pay the bills as presented. Any discussion? Those 111 1 in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, five zero. 2 2.3 late bills. 3 MRS. JOHNSON: There are none. 4 JUDGE KELLY: 2.4 Auditor reports. 5 MRS. JOHNSON: There are none. 6 JUDGE KELLY: 2.5 monthly reports. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. County 8 Treasurer's quarterly report for the period January 1, 9 2022 through March 31st, 2022. For March 2022, 10 Treasurer's monthly report, Tracy Soldan. Indigent 11 services, HR Director Jennifer Doss. For April 2022, 12 treasurer's payroll report, Tracy Soldan. County Clerk 13 Jackie JD Dowdy. District Clerk, Dawn Lantz. 14 Constables, Precinct 1, Tommy Rodriguez, and Precinct 2, 15 Kyle Schneider, Precinct 3, Paul Gonzales, Precinct 4, 16 Brad Rider. Justice of the Peace, Precinct 1, Mitzi 17 French. Precinct 2, J. R. Hoyne. Precinct 3, Kathy 18 Mitchell. And Environmental Health OSSF, Director Ashli 19 Badders. I move for approval. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 21 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 22 second to approve the monthly reports as presented. Any 23 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 24 five zero. 25 Court orders. 112 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have our Court Orders 2 from our April 25th regular meeting, Numbers 39278 to 3 39294. They all look to be in order. I move for 4 approval. 5 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Second. 6 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 7 second to approve the Court Orders as presented. Any 8 discussion? Those in favor raise your hand. Unanimous, 9 five zero. 10 Information Agenda. 3.1 Status reports from 11 Department Heads. Mr. Motheral. 12 MR. MOTHERAL: Good morning, gentlemen. I 13 want to advise y'all that starting next week, we are 14 beginning a server replacement for all of our large 15 servers. There will be outages. So I just wanted to 16 make sure everybody is on board and aware. It's all for 17 the benefit of advancement. That's all I have. Just 18 wanted to make sure. 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: How are the AgriLife 20 folks doing? Have you got them set up for the weekend? 21 MR. MOTHERAL: They're good. 22 COMMISSIONER BELEW: Okay. Good. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So any other Department 24 Heads? 25 3.2 elected Officials. 113 1 SHERIFF LEITHA: Judge, Commissioners. I 2 was just going to try to keep y'all updated each meeting 3 with reference to the radio infrastructure. Kind of a 4 quick update is we're kind of at the end of the road. 5 We're getting close to the end where we are looking at 6 purchasing a new radio infrastructure. 7 Now that, you know, Harley brought up the 8 lease, we're going to have to regroup. We're going to 9 get back with LCRA and Motorola and come up with the 10 specs for our RFP's, so I'll keep y'all updated. I've 11 been told it's not normal, that people usually lease the 12 complete infrastructure, but you know we'll look at that 13 and try to get some prices together for y'all and come 14 back to the table. That's it. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 16 SHERIFF LEITHA: Thank you. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Any other elected officials? 18 Okay. 19 Then 3.3 Liaison Commissioner reports. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I have one, just an 21 update. Killdeer Mountain Manufacturing. They are -- 22 their number of employees count is up to about 34 right 23 now. Most of them are local people that they've hired 24 and trained. They've brought a few in from North 25 Dakota. But they're well on their way to meeting their 114 1 goal of about 50 or 60 by the end of the year. Probably 2 a little ahead of schedule. So that's good. 3 And the other news, I haven't been in it 4 yet, but our new temporary building at Animal Control is 5 delivered and sitting there. Looks good. Reagan's out 6 this week, so I'm not sure if it's all moved in or not, 7 but it looks good. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: The election -- Bob 9 reported to me there were some problems with the AC out 10 there. It got extremely hot. Bruce is here to attest 11 to that. I've spoke to Shane this morning and he's 12 getting on it. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 14 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: But we'll have another 15 one in a couple weeks. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. Okay. Early voting 17 starts the 16th, I think. 18 Any other Liaison Commissioner reports? 19 COMMISSIONER BELEW: The Historical Society 20 is bringing their -- Historical Commission, I should 21 say, is going to have the camp for kids next month. So 22 it's a good deal for publishing their reports and 23 invitations for kids. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. Okay. We don't 25 have any items on the agenda for Executive Session so 115 1 that concludes our meeting and we are adjourned. 2 * * * * * * 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 116 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Court Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify 6 that the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise 7 a true and correct transcription of the proceedings had 8 in the above-entitled Regular Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 29th day of May, A.D. 2022. 10 11 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 12 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/30/2023 13 * * * * * * 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25