1 1 2 3 KERR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT 4 Regular Session 5 Monday, June 10, 2024 6 9:00 a.m. 7 Commissioners' Courtroom 8 Kerr County Courthouse 9 Kerrville, Texas 78028 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 PRESENT: ROB KELLY, Kerr County Judge ANNE OVERBY, Commissioner Precinct 1 24 RICH PACES, Commissioner Precinct 2 JONATHAN LETZ, Commissioner Precinct 3 25 DON HARRIS, Commissioner Precinct 4 2 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 *** Commissioners' Comments. 6 4 1.1 Presentation regarding State 4-H Roundup 13 Results. 5 1.2 Presentation of the 2023 Distinguished 18 6 Service Award to the Kerr County Historical Commission. 7 1.3 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 19 8 action to approve appointment of, and administer oath to Dr. Mark Mosier to the 9 Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board to replace Mr. John Major who resigned 10 effective May 31, 2024. Dr. Mosier's term will be effective until May 31, 2026. 11 1.6 Review the most recent status report from 20 12 GrantWorks dated June 4, 2024 regarding current projects and additional requested 13 documentation, then consider, discuss and take appropriate action to decide on which 14 future projects to obligate the remaining American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding. 15 1.8 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 30 16 action on Proclamation recognizing Peterson Health's 75th Year Anniversary. 17 1.6 Review the most recent status report from 34 18 GrantWorks dated June 4, 2024 regarding current projects and additional requested 19 documentation, then consider, discuss and take appropriate action to decide on which 20 future projects to obligate the remaining American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funding. 21 1.4 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 39 22 action on request from the Upper Turtle Creek Volunteer Fire Department to use the 23 Courthouse grounds parking lot, on available Saturdays from June to October, to set up 24 and sell raffle tickets for their yearly raffle. 25 3 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.5 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 42 action to approve Xerox contract for 4 Agrilife Extension Office. 5 1.7 Update from Emergency Management Coordinator 43 regarding the Solar Eclipse on April 8, 2024. 6 1.11 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 53 7 action to accept quarterly report from the Veterans Services Advisory Committee. 8 1.12 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 60 9 action to approve an unpaid internship for the Veteran Services Office. 10 1.9 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 61 11 action to address possibility of prohibiting or restricting the sale or use of restricted 12 fireworks, (i.e., "sky rockets with sticks" and "missiles with fins") in any portion of 13 the unincorporated area of Kerr County pursuant to Local Government Code #352.051 14 for the Fourth of July fireworks season. 15 1.10 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 62 action to accept Compilation Report dated 16 September 30, 2023 for the Kerr County Emergency Services District No. 4(ESD#4). 17 Report was received by the County on May 28, 2024. 18 1.13 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 62 19 action regarding a request to waive platting oversight and approval to the City 20 of Kerrville for a revision to the Well Tract and Lot 35 of The Homestead at Turtle Creek. 21 1.14 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 71 22 action for the Court to set a public hearing for 10:00 a.m. on July 22, 2024 for a 23 Revision of Plat for Hidden Valley Ranch Section 2, Lot 94. 24 25 4 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 73 action regarding a request to waive platting 4 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville for a revision to a Well Lot in 5 Las Colinas of Kerrville. 6 1.16 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 79 action for the Commissioners' Court approval 7 to surplus RBU 238, a 2020 Hamm H10i Cab, Smooth Drum Roller. 8 1.17 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 81 9 action for the Commissioners' Court approval to purchase a 2024 Dynapac CA2500D (12 ton) 10 Smooth Drum Roller, and trade in RBU 238, a 2020 Hamm H10i Cab, Smooth Drum Roller. 11 1.18 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 82 12 action for the Commissioners' Court approval to purchase a 2025 Kenworth T480 4,000-gallon 13 Water Truck. 14 1.19 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 84 action to approve and authorize County 15 Judge to sign Xerox contract for the County Attorney's Office. 16 1.20 Discussion regarding the proposed budget 84 17 and tax rate. 18 1.21 Consider, discuss and take appropriate action 92 to approve Resolution honoring Vince Isley. 19 1.22 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 94 20 action to approve justification for Soul Source procurement of products and services 21 for Trinity Innovative Solutions for Operation Lone Star Grant in accordance with the Local 22 Government Code 262.024 Discretionary Exemptions Subsection (c) if an item exempted 23 under Subsection (a)(7) is purchased, the Commissioners' Court, after accepting a signed 24 statement from the county official who makes purchases for the County as to the existence 25 of only one source, must enter in its minutes a statement to that effect. 5 1 I-N-D-E-X 2 NO. PAGE 3 1.23 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 96 action to extend the number of hours for 4 the Land-Mobile-Radio Project Manager, a temporary position, which was approved 5 through Court Order 39821, to an additional 182 hours using the American Rescue Plan Act 6 (ARPA) funding. 7 1.24 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 102 action to approve a ten-year extension to 8 the Interlocal Agreement for Firefighting and Emergency Services between the City of 9 Kerrville and Kerr County as approved with Court Order 40634. 10 2.1 Budget Amendments. 103 11 2.2 Pay Bills. 107 12 2.5 Accept Monthly Reports. 108 13 2.6 Court Orders. 109 14 3.2 Status reports from Elected Officials. 109 15 3.3 Status reports from Liaison Commissioners. 110 16 1.15 Consider, discuss and take appropriate 111 17 action regarding a request to waive platting oversight and approval to the City of 18 Kerrville for a revision to a Well Lot in Las Colinas of Kerrville. 19 *** Adjournment. 112 20 *** Reporter's Certificate. 113 21 * * * * * * 22 23 24 25 6 1 JUDGE KELLY: Court will come to order. It 2 is Monday, June the 10th, 2024 at 9 o'clock in the 3 morning, and the Kerr County Commissioners' Court is now 4 in session. If you would, please rise for the prayer 5 and pledge, which will be led by Commissioner Overby. 6 (Prayer and pledge) 7 JUDGE KELLY: The first item of business, as 8 always, turn the device off or to vibrate so it doesn't 9 interrupt the proceedings. And with that, the first 10 item on our regular Commissioners' Court meeting is 11 always public input. This is an opportunity for the 12 public to advise the Court of things that we need to 13 know -- or you think we need to know. It is an 14 opportunity for you to address us, but it is not an 15 opportunity for us to respond to you. Which is why 16 we've got a timed item for the budget at 10:30. We'll 17 talk about that later. 18 But in any event, if an item is on the 19 agenda, we ask that you save your opportunity to speak 20 until that agenda item is called. But if something is 21 not on the agenda, this would be the time if you'd like 22 to address the court to go to the lectern up here and 23 address us. Is there any public input? 24 Well, moving right along, we're going to go 25 to Commissioners' Comments. Precinct 1. 7 1 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Start with me? 2 Precinct 1 was very blessed with rain. Over the past 3 three weeks we've had an inch and a half and then some 4 people got three inches. Last night we got two. And I 5 haven't even checked this morning. So we are -- we're 6 very grateful. 7 I want to send out some special blessings to 8 my husband, 35 years ago today it rained as well on our 9 wedding and so bless him for being married to me for 35 10 years. But anyway, keeping it short today. 11 COMMISSIONER PACES: Okay. Well, Precinct 12 2. We did pretty good with rain over the last 24 hours, 13 two inches -- two and a quarter. 14 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yay. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: So -- and it was still 16 coming down when I left. Now, look, despite that, we 17 haven't seen anywhere near enough, especially in east 18 Kerr, to significantly recharge aquifers. So it sure 19 looks like we're in for a hot and dry summer. So the 20 only point I want to make is right now the burn ban is 21 lifted and if you've got brush piles that you need to 22 burn. I suggest you getting going and get them burned 23 before the burn ban is back in place. 24 Talk just a little bit about the Center 25 Point sewer project. We have discussed the possibility 8 1 of a Phase 4 project. And right now, though, we're 2 waiting to see a presentation, which will be a rehash of 3 the first three phases in terms of total spending, what 4 we've gotten for it, and what we have in terms of 5 remaining funds. It looks like right now we have about 6 ten million of unspent project funds. So the review 7 will cover the status of all loans and grants, as well 8 as options for those unspent funds. And what we believe 9 is certainly that we can use them, if we do a Phase 4, 10 which obviously will come before the Commissioners' 11 Court for approval. 12 And I expect that Tetra Tech, who is working 13 on that with Grantworks, will -- will be in Court within 14 the next month to give that review and we can further 15 talk about that. 16 Just want to point out that we will have an 17 APO, Aggregate Producer Operation, council at -- well, 18 advisory council meeting, at 6:00 p.m. on June 18th at 19 the Hill Country Youth Event Center. Trying to finalize 20 the agenda for that. Right now we have Martin Marietta, 21 who will be presenting about, you know, their progress 22 towards meeting our voluntary best management practices, 23 and we're hoping to hear from Mega-Crete, and we're also 24 going to hopefully talk a little bit about mine pit 25 reclamation. So hopefully it's a -- it's a good 9 1 meeting. 2 Lastly, I'm just going to talk a little bit 3 about the Office and Storage Space Committee. We're 4 making good progress on getting cost estimates for the 5 necessary repairs and improvement required for the AG 6 barn. And -- and while there are a lot of different 7 approaches to getting the required improvements 8 completed, I have requested $500,000 in the next budget 9 to at least get started chipping away at the maintenance 10 problems. And we'll soon have a discussion about what 11 it would take to fund the entire roughly two and a half 12 million dollars of needed improvements. 13 We're also making progress on addressing 14 office space requirements, in terms of making meeting 15 rooms available in the courthouse basement, identifying 16 solutions to enhance the Historic Commissions' office 17 space needs. And also to address the Sheriff's need for 18 additional office space in their annex facility. And 19 perhaps we'll hear more about that in our next 20 Commissioners' Court meeting. That's all. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. That's all? 22 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. I wanted to keep 23 it short today. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. Three. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. We've been lucky 10 1 to get a little rain finally in Precinct 3. The 2 northern areas have had probably, gosh, some of them 3 probably close to six, seven inches the last couple of 4 weeks. Down toward my house we're not near that much. 5 Probably close to about two inches. So -- but it's a 6 lot better. 7 And I would like to mention. My son goes to 8 Grace Academy and they go to an international convention 9 every year, and they have lots of -- it's like a UIL 10 type competition and kids come from all over the world 11 go to it, 1400 kids were there. And they have things 12 called pace bowl, which is like college bowl but -- you 13 see that on television. And Grace, one of the smallest 14 schools, won first place. And it goes to -- the team 15 was Moses and Dana Sanchez, Everett Clock, and my son 16 Jess. So quite an accomplish. 17 And the other comments was that convention 18 was held in Warrensburg, Missouri. He says when it 19 comes to track, the Ugandans are very fast. That's all 20 I have. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. Well, the rain 22 was a pleasant surprise to many of us. When I left the 23 house this morning, we had 2.2 at my house at 7:30, and 24 1.6 here at the courthouse when I got here. 25 A couple things coming up I want to mention 11 1 is this Friday the Divide VFD is having their annual 2 steak fundraiser out there. It starts at 6:00 on 3 Friday. And it -- it's always a fun event. So try to 4 make it. And it's for a worthy cause. The VFDs need 5 all the help they can get. 6 Another thing coming up, and it's almost a 7 month away but I'm -- I'm going to miss the next 8 Commissioners' Court. I have to go to a conference. 9 The next first Thursday meeting in West Kerr, Peter 10 Flores will be attending, and some of the things we'd 11 like to hear from him is address some of the water 12 issues we all face and what have you. So just want to 13 throw that out there. It's almost a month away, but I 14 won't be here to plug it next time. And that's it. 15 JUDGE KELLY: I want to talk about a couple 16 things. One is for those of you that don't understand 17 how we run our agenda, we have timed items and then we 18 have items that are just in sequential order. And what 19 I try to do, is to put people that have taken -- go to a 20 lot of trouble to be at the courthouse, I try to get 21 those events early in the agenda so that you don't have 22 to wait through everyone. You don't have to slosh 23 through all the toil that we have to work through. And 24 I -- I point that out because we're going to jump around 25 a little bit today but that -- we're going to get to 12 1 most of you first. That's the first thing I wanted to 2 talk about. 3 And you'll note that I have a 10:30 timed 4 item on every -- will be on every regular Commissioners' 5 Court meeting between now and the adoption of a budget 6 for public input and discussion. Not just input, like I 7 talked about input at the beginning. This is a 8 conversation between the public and the Court with 9 regard to our budget and our tax rate. This is very 10 important to get that kind of public input. There will 11 be eight opportunities for the public to discuss this 12 matter with us before it's adopted. 13 Now having said that, it is my distinct 14 honor to be able to introduce our new director for the 15 IT Department. If you would, this is Cory Thoennes is 16 how you say his name. If you see it spelled, just know 17 "tennis". 18 MR. THOENNES: It's an old German spelling. 19 It confuses everybody. 20 JUDGE KELLY: It's very German. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: It looks nothing like 22 that though. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Kind of like Neunhoffer, 24 sitting here in the front row. 25 But he's a retired Colonel from the Air 13 1 Force and has an extensive IT background. And we feel 2 like we're in really good hands. So thank you. 3 MR. THOENNES: Thank you. 4 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Welcome. 5 JUDGE KELLY: So with that, we'll move on to 6 the consideration agenda. Item 1.1 is the presentation 7 regarding the State 4-H Roundup results. Ms. Smith. 8 MS. FIEDLER: Good morning, I'm Angela 9 Fiedler. 10 JUDGE KELLY: I know you are. But I see 11 Jennifer Smith down here and I see you go to the podium. 12 MS. FIEDLER: Well, before we get started -- 13 we didn't want to forget. So, luckily we have an intern 14 this year and I would ask her just to stand up. 15 Cheyenne Stratton. She's from Angelo State. She 16 started today. So I think she's the reason we got all 17 the rain, she brought it here. Anyway, she'll be with 18 us until August -- 19 MS. STRATTON: 9th. 20 MS. FIEDLER: -- 9th. So anyway -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: Welcome. 22 MS. FIEDLER: -- we're excited about that. 23 So now we would like to go ahead and present our award 24 winners. All those that participated at State 4-H 25 Roundup. 14 1 JUDGE KELLY: Bring them up front. We're 2 going to have a photo opportunity here. 3 MS. SMITH: That's right. I'm going to have 4 them introduce themselves and then they'll make their 5 way up there. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 7 MS. SMITH: So thank you for having us this 8 morning. We are recognizing our youth who participated 9 in the Texas 4-H State Roundup last week. So those that 10 are not familiar with this, this is a week-long 4-H 11 experience for these kids, high school age kids. Many 12 of the contests they -- or they participated in last 13 week are actually qualifying, so there were steps to get 14 there. 15 So we had -- they participate in contest, 16 attend assemblies, they did workshops and community 17 service. It is built to keep them busy for five days 18 and keep us busy for five days and keep them going. So 19 last week we had 15 kids participate in 11 contests. So 20 each youth is able to participate in a maximum of three 21 contests. One a day. So -- and we had a few that 22 actually did that. So 15 kids in 11 contests. And they 23 did an amazing job. 24 They not only -- a lot of them did very well 25 in the contest. But our kids are super respectful when 15 1 they're in the community. Always a -- pleasant to be 2 around, and we always get compliments on how well 3 behaved they are, and how they present themselves. 4 So I just wanted the Court to know that not 5 only are these kids representing in the contest that 6 they participate in, but just as a -- young adults in 7 getting into the community. And these are -- and this 8 is statewide. So this is youth and adults from the 9 entire -- from the State of Texas. So we're very proud 10 of them for representing us in a great way. 11 So I'm going to have them come up and 12 introduce themselves. They're going to tell what 13 contest they participated in and if they placed. And 14 then we'll do a photo at the end. 15 MISS REELYN FIEDLER: Howdy. My name is 16 Reelyn Fiedler and I participated in educational 17 presentation. And I became a Healthy Texas Youth 18 Ambassador, where I go out into my county and I teach 19 those who don't understand health, what health is. And 20 I got 3rd as a team for consumer decision making, along 21 with my sister. 22 MISS RYNLEE FIEDLER: I'm Rynlee Fiedler and 23 I participated in consumer division making. I placed 24 3rd as a team and 5th overall. 25 MISS MEJIA: Good morning. I am Shelby 16 1 Mejia. I competed in wool mohair. I placed -- or at 2 least our team placed 1st place in our state division. 3 MR. LOCKWOOD: My name's Peter Lockwood. I 4 participated in the range and planet competition led by 5 Travis Waiser. Unfortunately, we couldn't form a team 6 this year so we did compete individually. And I didn't 7 place, but I sure did feel good for the most part. 8 MISS ROBBINS: I'm Ella Robbins. And I 9 competed in horse judging, and I got 14th place. 10 MISS HALL: I'm Madelyn Hall. And I think 11 we did a fashion show in two categories. These are in 12 costumes of natural fibers. I didn't make the top three 13 in the costume, but I got 2nd place in natural fibers. 14 And then I also competed in horse judging, which we got 15 14th place. And then me and my brother competed in 16 educational presentation category and we got seventh. 17 MR. HALL: Hi, my name is Samuel Hall. I 18 participated in robotics. I didn't place in that. I 19 did participate in horse judging, I got 14th. And then 20 in educational presentation, we got 7th, as Madelyn 21 mentioned. And then I also placed in musical 22 instrumental, but I couldn't do that because I had the 23 horse judging on the same day. 24 MS. SMITH: So some of the other contests 25 that our kids participated in, we did have a livestock 17 1 show team, entomology, we had a young lady participate 2 in science fair. We had wool judging, and as the rest 3 of them said, like education presentation, robotics and 4 that kind of thing. So we had a great representation 5 for the week. So thank y'all for having us this 6 morning. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Now we're going to do 8 the photo op. Y'all turn and took at me. You're in the 9 middle so you get right here in front of me. 10 (Photographs taken.) 11 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 12 COMMISSIONER PACES: Hey, Jennifer? 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Thanks for coming in. 14 MS. SMITH: Yes, sir. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: Question for you. How 16 many total members do we have in 4-H in Kerr County? 17 MS. SMITH: We have 284 members. 18 COMMISSIONER PACES: That's great. 19 MS. SMITH: And that ranges from 20 kindergarten through 12th grade. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. And I'm guessing 22 we have quite a few FFA members along the same lines. 23 I'd just like to make one point. I mean, we've talked a 24 little bit about the Youth Event Center in our workshop. 25 And, you know, they've been under some scrutiny for, you 18 1 know, the budgets and so forth. But one of the key 2 things that our Youth Event Center does is assist groups 3 like 4-H and FFA and all the meetings and the shows and 4 so forth that happen out there. So I just kind of want 5 to acknowledge that. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Good. 7 COMMISSIONER PACES: We get a lot of -- 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Welcome aboard. 9 There's a reason it says youth in the name out there. 10 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yes, sir. I'm 11 converted. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Can you see why we do those 13 timed items first? Same reason on the second one. 14 Item 1.2 is a presentation of the 2023 15 Distinguished Service Award to the Kerr County 16 Historical Commission. And if y'all would, please come 17 to the front. 18 And for those in the public that don't know, 19 since I'm going to present this certificate, this is 20 Barbara Oates, Bunny Bond, Julius Neunhoffer. And when 21 you talk about a Historical Commission in Kerr County, 22 you can't talk about it without talking about each one 23 of these people. Really. 24 So with that, what I want to do is present 25 you with the Texas Historical Commission 2023 19 1 Distinguish Service Award to the Kerr County Historical 2 Commission, in recognition of its active and 3 well-balanced preservation program. So congratulations. 4 (Photographs taken.) 5 JUDGE KELLY: Another timed item. It is 6 Item 1.3, which is to consider, discuss and take 7 appropriate action to approve the appointment of, and 8 administer the oath to Dr. Mark Mosier to the 9 Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board to replace 10 Mr. John Major, who resigned effective May 31, 2024. 11 Dr. Mosier's term will be effective until May 31, 2026. 12 So first of all, I've got to take some 13 action. Is there a motion? 14 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll make a motion to 15 approve the appointment of Dr. Mark Mosier to the 16 Kerrville-Kerr County Joint Airport Board. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second. 19 For those of you who don't know, he's served on the 20 Board for six years already. So we're bringing him back 21 into service. Any other discussion? Those in favor say 22 aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 23 Mark, if you'd come forward. I know you've 24 done this before. We're going to do it again. Okay. 25 If you would, please raise your right hand. 20 1 (Sworn in by Judge Kelly) 2 JUDGE KELLY: Congratulations. And I just 3 need you to sign -- well, we can do the rest. Get you 4 to sign right here. And then one more. Back here. 5 Congratulations. 6 DR. MOSIER: Thank you. 7 JUDGE KELLY: We look forward to it. 8 (Applause) 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We have a timed item at 10 9:15, so I have to skip over 1.4 and 1.5 right now. 11 The 9:15 is 1.6 review the most recent 12 status report from GrantWorks dated June 4, 2024 13 regarding current projects and additional requested 14 documentation, then consider, discuss and take 15 appropriate action to decide on which future projects to 16 obligate the remaining American Rescue Plan funding. 17 Ms. Putnam. 18 MS. PUTNAM: Good morning. We would like to 19 go ahead and introduce Latisha Turner from GrantWorks. 20 She is here to go over her most recent status report 21 from GrantWorks. We do receive these quarterly. And 22 just, kind of, give you an idea, a general idea of what 23 we have obligated so far and where we are with that and 24 answer any questions since we're about to get in the 25 budget phase and we do have remaining funds that we need 21 1 to obligate, which I have given you the information for 2 those. 3 And I do have some more updated information. 4 We might get that at a later date from the Treasurer. 5 She got me her report -- or she got quotes. She got new 6 quotes. So I have some updated stuff from what's in 7 there. I'm going to turn this over to Latisha to kind 8 of go over this. And if you've got any questions, just 9 let her know and if she can't get through them then she 10 will get back with me and answer them later. 11 JUDGE KELLY: And this is Ms. Latisha 12 Turner? 13 MS. TURNER: Yeah. Hi, my name is Latisha 14 Turner. I'm the program project manager at GrantWorks. 15 I'm just going to go over the status report that I send 16 on a monthly basis, just to kind of give you guys an 17 idea of what's going on and how you're spending your 18 ARPA funds. So I'm going to start just by giving a 19 little bit of an overview. So if you -- you guys 20 received about ten -- a little bit over ten million. 21 And if you did receive -- towards lost revenue which is 22 one of the more flexible categories that you can have 23 ARPA funds. So for that one, you can spend it on 24 government services. So anything that's kind of related 25 to government services. 22 1 And typically people will do things like 2 construction on schools, buildings, they'll do roads, 3 maintenance, health services, general government 4 administration, staff, environmental mediation, our 5 police, fire vehicles, different things like that. So 6 that's one of the things that people spend the ARPA 7 funds on. 8 Some things that are not eligible for ARPA, 9 as you're thinking about spending the money, you can't 10 offset a reduction in debt tax review, deposited pension 11 aren't eligible. You cannot pay debt service or 12 replenish your financial reserves. And you cannot use 13 the money to satisfy old settlements. And funds may not 14 be used for anything that conflicts with, like, COVID or 15 health. 16 And the period of performance is -- so the 17 funds are eligible for anything from March 2nd, 2021 to 18 December 31st, 2024. So anything that's incurred in 19 that timeframe is eligible. And the period of 20 performance is to December 31st, 2026. So all funds 21 have to be contracted by December 31st, 2024, which 22 means that you're going to have to be extended or your 23 contract or purchase order -- or there is a subcategory 24 for personnel that can be done via an MOU or it can 25 be -- you take a guesstimate for how much is going to be 23 1 towards that. And then you have until December 31st, 2 2026, to spend the funds. 3 So just go over a little bit how you guys 4 are currently using the funds. Like I said, you guys 5 have a little bit over ten million. Right now, you have 6 budgeted 9.8 million. And you have about $300,000 left 7 to budget. Your total obligation -- you have to remain 8 about 1.1. But that's not budgeted. You guys are still 9 going to budget a little bit more towards some costs 10 that are currently budgeted that's not obligated because 11 they're not under a contract just yet. 12 So I will go through some of the items. So 13 for GrantWorks, that's the first item, it's about 14 $400,000 for GrantWorks. For Kerr County, the 15 communication systems, that is going to be 6.9 -- oh, 16 go ahead. 17 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. Before you move 18 on, because that first one drew my attention. That 19 we've got enough -- a budget of $408,000, but we have 20 only expended 127,000 so there's a remaining amount to 21 be expended or obligated of 282,000. So my -- just -- 22 my question is, are we going to spend all that or are we 23 go to leave some of that on the table? 24 MS. TURNER: I mean -- the -- I believe you 25 guys are going to spend all the funds in time. So the 24 1 biggest project that you guys have is your communication 2 project, and that's 6.9 million of your fund. And so -- 3 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah, I'm just talking 4 about the administrative -- that first line item. 5 MS. TURNER: Okay. For GrantWorks. Is that 6 the one? 7 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yes. 8 MS. TURNER: Yes. You will. 9 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, it says 10 administration so, you know, but I -- 11 MS. TURNER: Yeah. So as you guys -- 12 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- understand 13 GrantWorks is -- 14 MS. TURNER: So GrantWorks is set up by 15 markers. So as you reach those markers, then we bill 16 down those funding. So at this point, I actually think 17 you guys have actually paid us an additional amount 18 since this has come out. Since this report has last 19 been out. 20 COMMISSIONER PACES: We have. 21 MS. TURNER: Since then amount shown, you 22 guys will have paid us again. So my goal is to get you 23 there. So we can continue to get paid. 24 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. No, that's fine. 25 It just looked like we hadn't spent very much. And so, 25 1 perhaps the likelihood would be that we wouldn't spend 2 it all. But if we -- 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: They're not going to 4 leave anything on the table. 5 MS. TURNER: Yeah. 6 So the next one you have to talk about 6.9 7 for communications project. The next one is going to be 8 the Veterans Pathway. That is about -- a little bit 9 over 300,000 for the Veterans Pathway project, which I 10 believe is completed. So you just -- we'll have to draw 11 down the remaining fund item. 12 And then you have some administrative 13 projects. You guys have hired an 18-month position to 14 oversee the contract for the communications project. 15 You guys hired two new employees as a result of COVID 16 and just need to expand services. That one is a little 17 over 600,000. You have emergency stipends for first 18 responders. That's about -- that's a little over a 19 million dollars. That's the amount that you had 20 budgeted for that line item. And for people who have 21 gotten their CDLs, you guys have about 98,000 in that 22 one. And then you guys had an ice storm closure that 23 took place. And you guys had finished out 116,000 for 24 that one. And that one is complete. 25 And then last we -- there is a special -- a 26 1 special request. And you guys have about 56,000 in that 2 one. And if I have time, I was just going to go over 3 some frequently asked questions if I have about -- a few 4 more minutes. One thing is coops. I know a lot of 5 times government entities will use coops to acquire 6 things. And coops are high risk. So they're not 7 necessarily something that we typically encourage. But 8 if for some reason you guys do want to go forward with 9 the coops, just let me know because there's some 10 mitigation things that we can do to make it a little bit 11 better. But it just involves some additional work if 12 you're going to use a coop. But like I said, they're 13 not typically encouraged because they do impose risk. 14 Some additional documentation that we have 15 requested as ARPA that are out listed in our policy and 16 procedures is a conflict of interest policy, a financial 17 management policy, and a document management plan. And 18 then for best practice, there's an anti-fraud list that 19 we encourage. 20 So these are plans a lot of times that 21 government entities already have in place and we would 22 just need to see a copy. But for some reason, if you 23 guys don't have them in place, you do have sample copies 24 that you can view and then make them your own. 25 And then I'm going to go over some questions 27 1 that I've been asked. One of them is: What happens to 2 funds not obligated by December 31st, 2024? They have 3 to be returned. So if they're not obligated, they will 4 have to be returned and there is a process in which they 5 would have to be returned after the reporting that 6 occurs after the New Year begins in 2025. So like I 7 said, our goal is to get everything under contract by 8 December 31st, 2024. 9 And then another thing is the flexibility 10 after obligation. So what flexibilities exist? For 11 example, if there needs to be change orders. If a 12 project needs additional funds, there are some options 13 that you could put additional funds in there. It just 14 needs to be outlined in the contract that additional 15 funds can be added to that contract. And if less 16 flexibilities exist after the deadline, if for some 17 reason a project does not expend all the funds or if you 18 just may have excess funds that were obligated as of the 19 deadline but not ultimately expended on activities. For 20 example, a contract that may perform work under budget, 21 therefore freeing up previously obligated ARPA funds, in 22 such cases the recipient may reclassify the fund. As 23 long as it's still an eligible activity that it occurred 24 before the deadline of December 31st, 2024, then they 25 can be re-obligated to that if there not expended. 28 1 And then -- I have two more and then I'm 2 done. So another question that I get asked is: Are we 3 required to submit interest earned? So if you guys 4 earned interest on the money, you are not required to 5 give that back to the Treasury and you're not held by 6 the Cash Management Approvement Act set forth. So you 7 guys are allowed to spend the money not really as an 8 ARPA. 9 And then there was a question about 10 matching. So because you guys are going to be using 11 most of your funding for the lost revenue, you are 12 allowed to use Federal funding on match. But the grant 13 has to specify that it is not an ineligible activity. 14 Because some grants have opted not to be able to use 15 ARPA funds to match. So then it would not be an 16 eligible activity. 17 And then that's all. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Thank you. 19 Just as overview, you may remember that we 20 had some public resistance to accepting the ARPA funds 21 when they were offered to us several years ago. And as 22 a precautionary measure, we retained GrantWorks, where 23 Miss Turner works, to help us comply with all the 24 required guidelines so there would be no call back of 25 those funds. And she works very closely with Noel 29 1 Putnam. We've been working together now for several 2 years. And this is our call back proof protection on 3 the funds. And you can see we spent the funds for very 4 worthwhile public works. So thank you, Miss Turner for 5 coming. You made a long trip. We appreciate it. Thank 6 you. 7 MS. TURNER: No problem. Thank you all. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. I have one last timed 9 item before our break. And that's a 9:30 item. 10 COMMISSIONER PACES: So we're going to talk 11 about the items that were submitted in terms of 12 competing for the last 328,000? 13 JUDGE KELLY: I've asked Noel to prepare 14 a -- 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: So we're not doing it 16 right now? 17 JUDGE KELLY: I wasn't -- 18 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I think that -- 19 JUDGE KELLY: -- planning on doing that 20 today. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: Okay. Just trying to 22 -- just asking. 23 JUDGE KELLY: We wanted to get her report 24 in. 25 COMMISSIONER PACES: Sure. 30 1 JUDGE KELLY: So this is a 9:30 item. It's 2 consider, discuss and take appropriate action on a 3 Proclamation recognizing Peterson Health's 75th 4 anniversary. And I have such a Proclamation here. Is 5 there a motion? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. And a second? 8 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second to 10 approve a Resolution that reads: 11 WHEREAS, on July 3rd, 1949, the vision of 12 Hal and Charlie Peterson to provide comprehensive local 13 access to healthcare, Sid Peterson Memorial Hospital 14 opened its doors to Kerr County bringing a state of the 15 art hospital to the Texas Hill Country; and 16 WHEREAS, Sid Peterson Memorial Hospital has 17 evolved into a regional healthcare hub, boasting 18 18 rooftops and serving a five county area. Now known as 19 Peterson Health, a locally governed, private, 20 independent, not-for-profit health system, that has 21 become a cornerstone of the community and the largest 22 employer in Kerr County; and 23 WHEREAS, Peterson Health is a trusted 24 community partner, comprised of professional with giving 25 spirits and caring hearts for the people of Kerr County 31 1 and the Texas Hill Country. 2 NOW, THEREFORE, be it resolved that we, the 3 Commissioners of Kerr County do hereby proclaim July 3, 4 2024 as Peterson Health Appreciation Day, and thank them 5 for their years of committed service to the citizens of 6 Kerr County, and the best wishes for the next 75 years. 7 So I'd like to present this to Tim. 8 MR. RYE: Yes, sir. 9 JUDGE KELLY: The public doesn't know who 10 you are, so why don't you just turn around and -- 11 MR. RYE: Yes, sir. Thank you. 12 My name's Tim Rye. I'm the Administrator 13 over at Peterson Health, and we turn 75 this year, and 14 we're very excited. We've been a part of the community 15 for a long time. Independent. And I think that's an 16 important -- controlling our own destiny out here, and 17 we're looking forward to the next 75. So really 18 appreciate the opportunity to be here. 19 (Photographs taken.) 20 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and I -- and the one 21 thing that I would emphasize about Peterson, my late 22 wife was a physician and I'm very familiar with Peterson 23 Hospital. It is privately owned; it's not a public 24 hospital. And when we talk about independent, they're 25 independent. And she was always very, very proud to 32 1 work with Peterson because of that independence. But 2 we're proud of you, too. 3 MR. RYE: Thank you very much. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Congratulations. 5 MR. RYLE: Appreciate it. 6 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Thank you, Tim. 7 (Applause) 8 JUDGE KELLY: Timed items. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Judge, regarding 10 Commissioner Paces' comment about the ARPA. We don't 11 have another budget workshop scheduled until the 22nd of 12 July. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well, why don't we schedule a 14 special meeting? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Because I think we 16 oughta have one. I'm not sure when we could all -- 17 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I think -- but I think 18 it's -- I think obligating that last little -- almost 19 30 million dollars is vitally important. And we 20 probably oughta dedicate a special meeting, call a 21 special meeting to be able to consider that. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, the way the 23 agenda item reads, it looks like we could today, as 24 Commissioner Paces stated. The way it reads. I mean, 25 unless we want to pass until everybody's a little more 33 1 prepared or something. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we haven't even had a 3 chance to review any report from -- 4 COMMISSIONER PACES: Capital Planning. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. I mean, which haven't 6 even been presented to us. I don't know how we act on 7 it today. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: It's here in the 9 backup. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know he's talking 11 about -- I think Commissioner Paces is -- a lot of his 12 is the project he's working on is facilities and -- 13 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, but there's a lot 14 of projects, they're all competing for a very limited, 15 you know, $328,000. So -- 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Exactly. 17 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- at what point are we 18 going to have the discussion as to which way we're going 19 to go to -- 20 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I agree. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- obligate the -- 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I've prioritized the 23 ones that we have in our backup myself but, you know -- 24 JUDGE KELLY: But all the more reason for to 25 spend the time to talk about it. 34 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. The question is 2 when? Do we do a special meeting? 3 JUDGE KELLY: I think so. I'll get Jody to 4 get some dates for us and get it set. 5 COMMISSIONER PACES: All right. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Latisha is gone. 7 Maybe -- can you recall that one? I have a question as 8 to what we're looking at on 1.6, Judge. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. I'm going to recall 10 Item 1.6, which is the -- review the report from 11 GrantWorks dated June 2024. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If -- we got the 323,000 13 which we haven't obligated yet. But it looks like we 14 haven't spent a lot of the other money and a lot of that 15 that was obligated was for the Sheriff's Department 16 salaries. Not a lot, but some of it was. And other 17 projects probably as well. This report doesn't -- when 18 do we -- we need to get, I guess, a realistic -- 19 JUDGE KELLY: She's working on one, I can 20 tell you. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Right. An accurate 22 report as to how much is actually left. I mean we have 23 the -- we know the 3.3, but we also know that there's 24 some other amount that's not going to be -- that's 25 budgeted but won't be spent. 35 1 MS. PUTNAM: Okay. So the primary thing is 2 to get -- to get it obligated by GrantWorks. Now on 3 that report, it doesn't show -- it doesn't show -- it 4 shows how much you want to obligate, but the only thing 5 that has been obligated is what has been expended. So 6 those things -- if you look at it, you'll have the 7 budgeted amount, and then the obligated amount, and then 8 the expended amount. And the expended amount and the 9 obligated amount will match. But the others -- the 10 other remaining fund in some of those instances are not 11 quite yet obligated because we do need to have them in 12 some sort of contract or some sort of -- and that's 13 something that we've been working on with Latisha, is 14 trying to figure out how to get those funds where 15 they're legally obligated by the 31st. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I guess my question is 17 it's got to go -- it says remaining amount to obligate. 18 Is that what you're talking about? That's a little over 19 a million dollars that's remaining to obligate. So is 20 that in addition to the 323,000? 21 MS. PUTNAM: No. No. We -- we have the 22 323,000 and then that's -- that's the only thing that is 23 left that doesn't have a -- that's not attached to a 24 project. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Earmark it. 36 1 MS. PUTNAM: So those are -- yes, not -- 2 that's the right thing. Not earmarked. So all of those 3 funds there are earmarked, but not necessarily fully 4 obligated. The 300 -- where is my notes. The 300 and 5 some odd, that is -- 6 JUDGE KELLY: Let me clarify. I am 7 tangentially involved with these conversations with 8 GrantWorks. And when -- when -- I'll use the Sheriff's 9 communication system as an example. That 6.9 million 10 dollars. We all agreed that we committed to it. We're 11 trying to satisfy GrantWorks in terms of how should that 12 be documented that it is obligated. 13 MS. PUTNAM: Right. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Earmark is probably a better 15 term, Commissioner Harris. We got it all earmarked. We 16 know where that -- we intend for that to go. We're 17 going to have to do something technically between now 18 and the end of the year to satisfy GrantWorks to make 19 sure that they've got a piece of paper in hand, like the 20 Federal Government requires, that we're spending money 21 like the way we were supposed to. 22 COMMISSIONER PACES: That radio system is a 23 little bit different deal. We have a contract for the 24 procurement of that so. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Correct. And we've talked to 37 1 them about that and they -- 2 COMMISSIONER PACES: The ones that are a 3 little more loose are maybe the salary and -- 4 JUDGE KELLY: They liked that one a lot 5 better than they liked some of the other ones we had 6 created. 7 MS. PUTNAM: Yes. Right. And that one -- 8 that one is completely -- 9 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Tied up. 10 MS. PUTNAM: -- documented. 11 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. Right. 12 MS. PUTNAM: And for some reason, as an 13 example of one of the things that she said is at the end 14 of it all if there were, say, some money left over, we 15 can take that money, and de-obligate it and re-obligate 16 it to one of our existing projects that's in the -- in 17 the works. We can't create a whole new project of ARPA, 18 it has to be something that's already in the works. But 19 any of these projects are under budget, we can still 20 spend that money by putting it towards one of the others 21 that maybe doesn't have enough. 22 COMMISSIONER PACES: Sheriff, correct me if 23 I'm wrong, but it -- that won't be the case for the 24 radio project? 25 SHERIFF LEITHA: I can assure you. 38 1 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah, I almost said it myself. 2 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. That's the big 4 one. 5 MS. PUTNAM: Well, that was an example. Any 6 of the projects like that. 7 JUDGE KELLY: But let me go -- let me go 8 farther. I work with Noel quite a bit and she has a lot 9 of documentation with regard to all of these -- not only 10 the ones that we think we've committed to, the earmarked 11 ones, but these other ones that are to be decided. 12 Which we're going to have to decide probably in this 13 budget process. And she's worked up some graphs, she's 14 got charts, she's got a wealth of things that we really 15 hadn't planned to set aside today. It could take 16 probably hours to go through all that. But we have 17 that. And so that needs to be shared with the Court. 18 In fact, we talked this morning about it, 19 that she just go ahead and give you a handout. But 20 she's prepared to come talk to us about all of it. So 21 that's what I'm saying. We probably oughta set aside 22 and get a special meeting date for. Because it's really 23 important. 24 MS. PUTNAM: And making this agenda item, I 25 did want it to be an option if we were able to do so, 39 1 but there is a lot. It's -- it's quite a bit of 2 information. So -- and just for time sake purposes, and 3 it would also give an opportunity for you guys to, 4 again, see what is out there and -- and formulate 5 questions. Because I'm sure there will be questions on 6 all of this as well that nobody here can answer. 7 Because I won't be able to answer them on specific 8 projects. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let me close by saying 10 that Noel has done a masterful job of managing a complex 11 structure of how to spend these monies and work with 12 GrantWorks. And keep -- keep our -- keep us call back 13 approved I'll call it. So thank you. 14 And we've done all the timed items, let's go 15 back and pick up -- I think we can do these pretty 16 quickly. 17 1.4, which is the Upper Turtle Creek 18 Volunteer Fire Department to use the Courthouse grounds 19 parking lot, on available Saturdays from June to 20 October, to set up and sell raffle tickets for their 21 yearly raffle. Jeff Bowman. 22 MR. BOWMAN: Yes, sir. The Turtle Creek 23 Volunteer Fire Department has purchased a '24 Kawasaki 24 Mule, with a trailer. And that's our grand prize for 25 our raffle. And we're just looking for a location so we 40 1 can set up and sell tickets. We don't have any dates 2 set aside. We do have a meeting tonight to discuss, you 3 know, who would be available to come up here and so if 4 y'all allow us to be here. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And to clarify -- oh, I'm 6 sorry. Go ahead, Anne. 7 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: How much is the 8 ticket? 9 MR. BOWMAN: Tickets are a hundred dollars 10 apiece. 11 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Sounds like a good 12 ticket. 13 COMMISSIONER PACES: Good price. 14 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yeah. 15 MR. BOWMAN: The main package cost to the 16 Department, and we bought it outright, it cost us 17 $25,200.00, I think it was. So they're a little pricier 18 than most raffles but -- 19 JUDGE KELLY: But to clarify, Jeff, what 20 we're talking about is you would set up a table or a big 21 food or kiosk here on the Courthouse grounds. It would 22 take up the whole Courthouse grounds? 23 MR. BOWMAN: We would be in the parking lot, 24 most likely at the corner. 25 JUDGE KELLY: You'd bring the Kawasaki Mule 41 1 and the trailer? 2 MR. BOWMAN: Yes, sir. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Have it in the parking lot. 4 Set up a place to be able to take donations. But you're 5 not using the whole Courthouse grounds? 6 MR. BOWMAN: No. No. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 8 MR. BOWMAN: In fact -- 9 JUDGE KELLY: And you'll just do it as 10 available? 11 MR. BOWMAN: Yeah. 12 COMMISSIONER PACES: On the weekends. 13 MR. BOWMAN: Yeah. In fact, it's parked out 14 there right now. Because I have to take it back to 15 Secor this morning. But we hang most of our banners and 16 everything right on the trailer and the mule. Basically 17 a table, a canopy, the trailer, and probably a vehicle. 18 JUDGE KELLY: I just want to clarify so that 19 the public didn't misunderstand and think that you were 20 going to occupy the courthouse for the rest of the year. 21 This one is pretty easy. 22 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yeah. 23 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Do we have a motion? 25 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll make a motion, 42 1 subject to you leaving it out there so we can go take a 2 look during the break. But I'll make a motion -- 3 MR. BOWMAN: Absolutely. 4 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- that we approve the 5 request from Upper Turtle Creek Volunteer Fire 6 Department to use the courthouse grounds parking lot on 7 weekends to set up and sell raffle tickets for their 8 yearly raffle. 9 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second that 10 motion. 11 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 12 second to approve the use of the Courthouse grounds by 13 Turtle Creek Volunteer Fire Department for their raffle 14 ticket sales. Any discussion? Those in favor say aye. 15 Opposed? Unanimous. Thank you. 16 MR. BOWMAN: Thank you. 17 JUDGE KELLY: Remember, you've gotta leave 18 it through the break. 19 MR. BOWMAN: I will and I'll be here. Thank 20 you. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Item 1.5 consider, discuss and 22 take appropriate action to approve the Xerox contract 23 for Agrilife Extension Office. This is routine. 24 MS. FIEDLER: Routine. I think we're going 25 to actually save a little bit. And we're ready for a 43 1 new one because -- 2 JUDGE KELLY: Do we have a motion? 3 MS. FIEDLER: -- it's not doing its job. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The County Attorney has 5 reviewed? 6 MS. FIEDLER: Yes. The County Attorney's 7 reviewed it and approved it. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 10 MS. FIEDLER: It's a 15-month -- 11 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 12 second. Is there any discussion? Those in favor say 13 aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 14 You're very persuasive. 15 MS. FIEDLER: Yay! Except it's so heavy. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Moving down to 1.7, an 17 update from the Emergency Management Coordinator 18 regarding the solar eclipse on April 8th, 2024. Dub 19 Thomas. 20 MR. THOMAS: Good morning, Judge. Good 21 morning, Commissioners. I apologize for this being a 22 little late after the eclipse. I took a week off to 23 recover. And -- and then had the TDEM conference and it 24 took a little while to gather some information. 25 But this is my final report on the total 44 1 eclipse of April 8th, 2024. I got some information from 2 Julie at the Visitors Bureau, and I thought it might be 3 interesting for y'all to hear this. I had asked her 4 originally about how many folks came into Kerrville or 5 Kerr County for the eclipse, and the only data that they 6 had was for the City. But I -- I do have some thoughts 7 on what happened out in the County and I'll get to that 8 in just a minute. 9 So from Julie, she said local data analytics 10 indicated 65,400 people in the City limits of Kerrville 11 on April 8th, not counting going to the loop here. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Could you state that number 13 again? 14 MR. THOMAS: 65,400. Average real time was 15 about four hours. So they just came and left. The same 16 platform indicated 10,000 in Louise Hays Park on that 17 day and close to 2,000 at the Hill Country Arts 18 Foundation. Everybody -- even though the weather didn't 19 really cooperate for us, I think it was still an 20 economic boost for the City and the County. Several 21 businesses reported record days of sales and probably 22 for the year. 323 Bakery in Ingram reported their best 23 days ever. 24 Saw significant traffic increase and people 25 staying out in Ingram and Hunt. 85 percent booked hotel 45 1 wise in the City of Kerrville, which was a lot better 2 than Austin. Austin only had 78 percent. Boerne and 3 Fredericksburg also had similar numbers as far as hotel 4 reservations. 5 We had people from all over the nation in 6 the world, not including Texas, we had visitors from 32 7 states, and the top five states being California, 8 Colorado, Arizona, Washington, and Minnesota during the 9 week prior. Texas accounted for 46 percent of the 10 traffic during that same time frame and it dropped to 39 11 percent the day of the eclipse. We had international 12 visitors from 11 countries, including Israel, Germany, 13 Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, England, Canada, Sweden 14 Columbia, Belgium, and South Africa. 15 In the week leading up to the eclipse, 42 16 percent of the people helped by the Visitors Center were 17 overnight visitors, 33 percent were day visitors, 25 18 percent were locals. Average stay for folks that came 19 was 3.6 days. Anyway, so that was what we had for the 20 total number. 21 Now as far as what was out in the County, 22 you know, that's really going to be kind of hard to say. 23 We had all the camps that had visitors. I'm sure 24 people -- relatives had -- had relatives come into town 25 and those types of thing. But I can tell you that when 46 1 the Civil Air Patrol, Mark could tell you, when they got 2 up in the air it looked like tent city out there. There 3 were RVs and tents everywhere on all these ranches. So 4 my best guess would be we had probably another 25 to 5 30,000 out in the County. Probably close to 100,000 6 altogether. 7 I think the best part about all that was we 8 got them all out of here in three and a half hours 9 without a hitch. We had one little accident on the 10 interstate. And I-10 got backed up, both coming and 11 going, before the ellipse and after the eclipse, but not 12 for very long. 13 JUDGE KELLY: And the only hitch I heard 14 about was with Judge Evans in Bandera County. 15 MR. THOMAS: Yeah, when they all went to 16 Bandera? I didn't send them there. So -- so the other 17 thing that I wanted to give you, is I wanted to show you 18 some pictures provided by Mark and the civil air patrol. 19 The civil air patrol flew four sorties that day, and we 20 had 22 different locations for them to look. Some of 21 those we wanted them to take photographs of and some of 22 them we just wanted them to observe and keep contact 23 with us on the ground about what was going on. 24 So the first one we have is we'll just take 25 a look at Kerrville Schreiner park, this is a photo. 47 1 That's not Kerrville Schreiner park. Okay. Go ahead. 2 We'll go through those. Backup, backup, backup. 3 So ECL 19 was supposed to be Kerrville 4 Schreiner Park. But this was a set up that was provided 5 by National EMR, which is National Emergency Management 6 and Response. They brought a command trailer, several 7 tents. They were fully air conditioned and they were 8 set up. This particular vestibule was set up for 9 incident command support. We had Civil Air Patrol 10 represented in there, TDEM, TxDOT, DPS. Our situation 11 leader. Documentation leader. All this was full with 12 computers, laptops, and people on the day of the event. 13 JUDGE KELLY: And that was in the parking 14 lot behind First Presbyterian 15 MR. THOMAS: That was in the parking lot 16 over by First Presbyterian. Go ahead. 17 That's the command trailer. The command 18 truck. That's not their biggest one. But this one 19 was -- suited our purposes very well. We had all of our 20 incident command in there, including section chiefs for 21 logistics planning and finance. Go ahead. 22 Just another picture of the tent where all 23 the support personnel were. Keep going. 24 One of our briefings on Saturday and Sunday 25 before the event. Keep going. The day of the event. 48 1 Now we're watching all of our traffic. And this the 2 inside of the command trailer itself. These guys are 3 representing the -- two representatives of National EMR 4 there. And that's Lieutenant Kline from the Kerrville 5 Police Department. Go ahead. Another briefing. Go 6 ahead. This is two portable generators that National 7 EMR provided. Keep going. And again, that same outside 8 vestibule. Go ahead. Another look at the command 9 trailer. And the way we were set up at First 10 Presbyterian. Go ahead. Another briefing, an ops 11 briefing -- operations briefing. Go ahead. Just 12 somebody else taking pictures. Next. 13 This was day of the eclipse. You can see 14 there's a National EMR out there, looking up in the air. 15 We're waiting for it to -- waiting for it to happen. 16 We're watching -- 17 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Waiting for it to 18 clear. Waiting for the sky to clear. 19 MR. THOMAS: -- the eclipse start. Go 20 ahead. It's getting closer. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go 21 ahead. All right. Everybody's taking pictures of it so 22 now we're getting really close. Next picture. There it 23 starts. Next picture, please. 24 COMMISSIONER PACES: Oops. 25 MR. THOMAS: Somebody did that upside down. 49 1 Just another picture of the inside of that tent. All of 2 this free of charge, by the way. This is all through 3 MOU with the City of Kerrville. 4 Still darkness. Go ahead. All right. 5 That's it. 6 So what I wanted to -- yeah. I've got some 7 aerial photos in there somewhere. Well, I guess they 8 didn't -- they didn't get that to you. Okay. I 9 apologize for that. But still, air patrol did provide a 10 valuable asset for us. They gave us pictures from 11 several different locations on I-10. So -- Quiet 12 Valley, a lot of areas that we knew we were going to 13 have an influx of folks. 14 And this was not just a planning process, 15 but it was a planning process involving the entire 16 community. Some of the organizations that were involved 17 in this planning process. And this is -- I'm pretty 18 sure I left somebody out, but I tried to get everybody. 19 Kerr County Sheriff's Office, Kerr County Commissioners' 20 Court, Commissioner Paces was there all the time. Kerr 21 County Road & Bridge, Kelly Hoffer and Crystal 22 Lockridge. I can't say enough about what Crystal did 23 for us about traffic maps and those kind of things. She 24 put our traffic plan on the map and we had it -- she had 25 it down great. 50 1 Kerr County Engineer's Office. Bobby Gore 2 did a good job for us. Kerr County CERT did all the 3 staging areas. Hill Country Amateur Radio Club, which 4 provided backup communications capability. And all the 5 VFD stations. And transmitted traffic flow intelligence 6 information to the EOC on an hourly basis on the day of 7 the event. 8 The civil air patrol, as I said, they flew 9 four sorties on 22 locations that we were looking for 10 any intelligence on. We also had the Ingram Police 11 Department, Kerrville Police Department, Kerrville Fire 12 Department. In fact, I imagine nearly every City of 13 Kerrville department, every department in the City of 14 Kerrville, all the Kerr County VFD manned their stations 15 throughout the weekend. 16 Also Kerrville-Kerr County Airport, they did 17 an outstanding job planning for the influx of planes and 18 traffic there. TxDOT, another invaluable service for 19 all the traffic control devices that they acquired for 20 us. Hill Country Telephone, Mini Mart, Walmart, HEB, 21 Peterson Health, DPS, Texas Parks and Wildlife. 22 Kerrville First United Methodist Church, who provided 23 meals for all four staging areas, three meals a day. So 24 Kerrville First United Methodist Church, Light on the 25 Hill, City West Church, First Presbyterian, Kerrville 51 1 Bible Church, National EMR, Valero, Maxi Energy, and 2 McBride Oil Company. 3 That's just a short list. I'm sure I left 4 somebody out, but I tried to give everybody credit for 5 those that were part of that process. Any questions? 6 JUDGE KELLY: Well, Dub, we want to thank 7 you for the exhaustive job that you did in getting us 8 prepared. And the best thing about the solar eclipse in 9 my opinion was that we were significantly over-prepared, 10 and that's a good thing. 11 MR. THOMAS: I think it showed, Judge, that 12 we can take a massive event and be prepared for it and 13 handle it. We have the resources. And we have the 14 personnel. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, I was very 16 impressed with the number of people and you've rattled 17 off a long list so I'm not going to, but the number of 18 people who were involved in the planning, over several 19 years, and it all came together really without a hitch. 20 Other than you did a horrible job controlling the 21 weather. 22 MR. THOMAS: Yeah. I know. I know. I 23 know. 24 COMMISSIONER PACES: And, you know, had the 25 weather and the forecast been a little bit better, it 52 1 might have been a much bigger number. Because I'm sure 2 we had a lot of people at the last minute who decided to 3 go somewhere else. 4 MR. THOMAS: Right. Well, you know, 5 Commissioner Paces, four years ago when we started the 6 process, I told you it was going to rain. 7 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, it didn't rain. 8 MR. THOMAS: But it came close. 9 COMMISSIONER PACES: Anyway, no, it was a 10 great job. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Thanks, Dub. 12 MR. THOMAS: Thank y'all. 13 COMMISSIONER PACES: I would ask though, 14 that Dub, if you can kind of coordinate with Lisa and we 15 ought to put some of those photos and especially aerial 16 shots or whatever on our website. I think it's a great 17 interest to the public to kind of see. 18 MR. THOMAS: Yeah, we have some really good 19 photos from a lot of the traffic on I-10 -- 20 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah, absolutely. 21 MR. THOMAS: -- in particular. So -- 22 COMMISSIONER PACES: I think that would be 23 great interest. 24 MR. THOMAS: All right. We'll get those up 25 there. 53 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: Thank you. 2 MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Very well. Then with that, 4 we're going to take our morning break. And when we come 5 back we'll handle the Veterans Services. 6 (Break.) 7 JUDGE KELLY: Court will come back to order. 8 We'll move on to our 10 o'clock timed item. The first 9 one is 1.11 consider, discuss and take appropriate 10 action to accept the quarterly report from the Veterans 11 Services Advisory Committee. And I think we better hear 12 the report before we accept it. So Mr. Noller. 13 MR. NOLLER: Good morning. I'm Gary Noller, 14 140 Ray Drive, Center Point, Precinct 3. I'd like to 15 once again thank the Commissioners' Court for all the 16 support in reference to Kerr County for the veterans. 17 I've got members of the advisory committee here and 18 Jenna's going to say a few words in a moment. 19 But each year in May the Federal Government 20 sends out something called the geographic distribution 21 expenses, which we call the GDX. But they basically go 22 to every county, every congressional district of every 23 state, and outline some categories of where they've 24 provided assistance to veterans in monetary benefit. 25 The report just came out last month or a couple weeks 54 1 ago. Jenna gave us notice on that. 2 And for Kerr County for the year -- on the 3 fiscal year 2023, was $121 million. And for 2022, it 4 was $127 million. So it looks like it went down six 5 million dollars. But there's an explanation for that. 6 That's broken down into several different categories. 7 One of them is what we call C&P, which is compensation 8 and pension, which is disability payments to veterans, 9 to their dependents, to their survivors, as well as 10 pension payments to the lower income war veterans. And 11 that's dollars in the pocket. That's tax free money 12 that comes in. That amount is $49 million. Now, up 13 from 47 million, so that number jumped up two million 14 dollars in one year. 15 And part of that's to the credit to the Kerr 16 County and County Veterans Service officers, as well as 17 any other service officers. That basically is how much 18 money comes to veterans that live in Kerr County no 19 matter who helps them, even if they did it themselves. 20 So that went up two million dollars. But the healthcare 21 went down eight million dollars. And the only thing I 22 can think of as the reason why there's money spent on 23 healthcare in Kerr County went down eight million 24 dollars was because we're coming off the deep due to 25 COVID, which is good. And so that number typically goes 55 1 up, you can go on the internet and you can find those 2 numbers going back 25 years, so you can make year to 3 year comparisons for decades and get comparisons. 4 It also stated that there were 5,040 5 veterans and that's a loss of 46 over the previous year. 6 And if you go out on the internet and try to find out 7 how many veterans live in Kerr County, you can probably 8 find numbers that range anywhere from 5,000 to 5,500, 9 depending upon who you're looking at. Nobody really 10 counts how many veterans there are. They use algorithms 11 and the VA uses -- I think it's probably one of the 12 best, they probably use the census bureau because the VA 13 gets DOD numbers, the Department of the Defense. So 14 they know when people get out of the military and they 15 know how many people go in. 16 But anyway, that's about 12 percent -- 11 to 17 12 percent of the Kerrville population if you look that 18 far -- and if you want to look at that as far as adult 19 population. And that's twice the number in the State of 20 Texan and twice the number in the United States. And 21 it's going to continue to come down. The veterans 22 population is decreasing all the time. So that was -- 23 that kind of hit me. I did know we're going to get 24 there -- 25 We had several notable things happen in the 56 1 last -- particularly the last two or three weeks. The 2 Veterans Pathway got dedicated. Great job on that. I 3 think I'd like to give all the thanks to the 4 Commissioners that worked on that. It started with 5 Commissioner Moser, and Commissioner Gipson, and 6 Commissioner Paces. Also the finance department that 7 helped in all of the funding work to get that money 8 available. And to Charlie Hastings up here in the front 9 row, because that was kind of one of his little babies. 10 He had to go to maturity and did a great job on it. And 11 put the sign up there, and he kind of did a little dance 12 about that. 13 It's a great improvement and I know the City 14 is behind it. And you know, I look at it as helping 15 connect the City of Kerrville a little bit more with 16 that side of town. Because that's legion over there 17 and, you know, at one time it wasn't even looked at as 18 being part of Kerrville. There's a lot of stuff over 19 there that needs to be better connected. So connecting 20 particularly all the way from the front door of the VA 21 down to the Flat Rock Park and come across the bridge 22 and get back on the Kerrville City River Trail, I think 23 is -- I don't see how anybody's going to lose. 24 And while that came and went, it was very 25 hot. Probably one of the hottest Memorial Days I've 57 1 ever encountered in years. But it had one of -- 2 probably one of the largest crowd. Very respectful 3 people. They didn't wander off. Even though it got 4 hot, you know, people stuck there, you know, for one 5 whole hour in that heat and -- and great presentation. 6 A lot of that credit goes to Jenna again for -- and Jeff 7 helped a lot. 8 And then Shane with his crew. I know he had 9 at least four or five people down there. And when you 10 put out a hundred chairs and you need 150, you set out 11 150 chairs and you need 200, and then you put 200 chairs 12 out and -- he needs to buy some more chairs. He's gotta 13 bring down about another hundred next year if this thing 14 keeps going like it has. 15 I'd also like to thank the Sheriff's 16 Department for having security out there and having the 17 building open so people can come in here and use the 18 facilities they need. 19 And the third thing is really that there was 20 a training event out here hosted by Jenna. I'm going to 21 let her touch on that next. 22 And just one little update. The Freedom's 23 Path Phase 2 Apartments, the City of Kerrville has 24 passed the rezoning a couple weeks ago that needed to be 25 rezoned from industrial something use to residential 58 1 use. 2 And the next thing we're hoping to get 3 probably within two weeks is whether or not Freedom's 4 Path gets the tax credit funding that the Texas 5 Department of Housing Community Affairs. And they have 6 a meeting, I don't know, maybe the first week of July or 7 so. And they'll say they get the result no later than 8 July 31st. But that's probably the last thing that I 9 know of that can happen if those tax credits come 10 through. And maybe in January they'll start getting 11 homes out there and building Phase 2. 12 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: That's great. 13 MR. NOLLER: And that's my report. 14 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Awesome. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Miss Sanchez. 16 MS. SANCHEZ: Just a real quick. So every 17 year we have to have at least 12 hours of training to 18 continue our accreditation and then we have to pass an 19 annual test. This year, we hosted our own. We had 20 gotten 24 hours for our training. We had 21 counties 21 show up. It was over three days. And it was very good. 22 So just, you know, trying to put Kerr County on the map. 23 That's what we're doing. 24 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Awesome. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Where was the training 59 1 at? 2 MS. SANCHEZ: We held it at the Hill Country 3 Youth Event Center in the large classroom. And it was 4 for three days. The first day we partnered with the VA 5 Health Care System because a lot of people get confused 6 if they think health care and the benefits are the same, 7 and they're not. So we do a lot -- we are very much 8 like case managers. Case workers. Kind of like lawyers 9 as well. 10 So we're trying to make sure we don't send 11 veterans in a frenzy trying to figure out what all they 12 may be entitled to. We're trying to get better for 13 them. And then the second day we went into more depth 14 about what we do, and then on the third day if a veteran 15 ever appeals their case, it's three to five years before 16 they get in front of a Judge. And so we actually did a 17 mock trial. So that's something we do but we are still 18 doing it for our veterans and still they go up to that. 19 So this is allowing us to be able to inform 20 our veterans, putting their anxiety at ease, and help 21 them be better prepared for it. Because a lot can 22 happen in three to five years. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Excellent. Very well. 24 Well, with that, do we have a motion to 25 accept the quarterly report? 60 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll make a motion that 2 we accept the quarterly report from Veterans Services 3 Advisory Committee. 4 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second that 5 motion. 6 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 7 second to approve the VSO report -- or really the 8 Veterans Services Advisory Committee report. Any 9 discussion? Those in favor say aye. Opposed? 10 Unanimous. 11 Item 1.12 consider, discuss and take 12 appropriate action to approve an unpaid internship for 13 the VSO. Miss Sanchez. 14 MISS SANCHEZ: So I just would like to get 15 approval, and I do have a job description. And I'll 16 bring it up to you. But basically, the gist is if we 17 can get a student during the summer, not paid, just do 18 an internship. And basically it's just to do paperwork. 19 The job description includes that everything you see or 20 hear is confidential and you are not to repeat it. And 21 this would really help us because we're getting ready to 22 send out about 1500 letters. And it would be really 23 nice if we can have someone address all those envelopes 24 and print out those letters for us and stuff it. So 25 hoping we're able to get that approved. 61 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second to 4 approve the VSO having an unpaid intern this summer. 5 Any discussion? Those in favor say aye. Opposed? 6 Unanimous. Thank you. 7 MS. SANCHEZ: Thank you. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Thank all of y'all. 9 We'll go back to 1.9 consider, discuss and 10 take appropriate action to address the possibility of 11 prohibiting or restricting the sale or use of restricted 12 fireworks, (i.e., "sky rockets with sticks" and 13 "missiles with fins") in any portion of the 14 unincorporated area of Kerr County pursuant to Local 15 Government Code for the 4th of July fireworks season. 16 If we're going to prohibit it, we have to 17 take action. 18 COMMISSIONER PACES: Right now it doesn't 19 look too bad. But who knows by July 4th. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Looks real good today. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. I know. 22 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: And there's more rain 23 Tuesday and Wednesday in the forecast. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I don't see a problem. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Well, if there's no motion 62 1 then -- 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: That's right. 3 JUDGE KELLY: No motion? Okay. Then no 4 action on that. 5 We move on to Item 1.10 consider, discuss 6 and take appropriate action to accept the compilation 7 report dated September 30, 2023 for the Kerr County 8 Emergency Services District No. 4. The report was 9 received by the County on May the 28th, 2024. 10 Commissioner Harris. 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. This is routine. 12 This completes all of the ESD's in Precinct 4. So I 13 move for approval. 14 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll second. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 16 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and a 17 second. Any discussion? Those in favor say aye. Those 18 opposed? Unanimous. 19 Item 1.13 consider, discuss and take 20 appropriate action regarding a request to waive platting 21 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville for a 22 revision to the Well Tract and Lot 35 of The Homestead 23 at Turtle Creek. Charlie Hastings. 24 MR. HASTINGS: Thank you, Judge. This 25 proposal revises the line, the lot line, between the 63 1 Well Tract (currently 1.21 acres) for the community 2 water system and Lot 35 (1.69 acres). The revised Well 3 Tract will be reduced to 0.74 acres. Lot 35R will be 4 increased to 2.16 acres. Frontage for both tracts 5 remain on Saddle Club Drive. 6 Road frontage and access to the Well Tract 7 will remain at 20 feet. 8 Since this subdivision is in the Kerrville 9 ETJ, there is a request for the Court to waive platting 10 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville. The 11 City of Kerrville will not relinquish their platting 12 authority. If platting oversight is waived, the 13 signature blocks for both the Kerr County floodplain 14 administrator and OSSF designated representative would 15 still be required and remain on the plat. 16 County Engineer requests the Court consider, 17 discuss and take appropriate action regarding request to 18 waive platting oversight and approval to the City of 19 Kerrville for revisions to the Well Tract and Lot 35 of 20 the Homestead at Turtle Creek, volume 6, Page 309, 21 Precinct 2. 22 There is a letter in your packet attached 23 from Voelkel Surveying, dated May 7th explaining the 24 situation and that this would be beneficial to the 25 client so that they don't have to run through both 64 1 entities to get signatures on a plat. 2 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll make a motion to 3 approve the waiver of platting oversight to the City of 4 Kerrville for a revision to the Well Tract and Lot 35 of 5 The Homestead at Turtle Creek. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second with a comment -- 7 question. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we got a motion and 9 a second. 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The question is -- and 11 I'm going down a road that I argue against all the time. 12 But why doesn't this require a water availability study? 13 Which is a ludicrous question, I agree. 14 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I think you know. 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But I'm hit with that 16 question frequently from other people. And it's the 17 exact same situation. 18 MR. HASTINGS: Well, they're not creating a 19 new lot. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They're revising a lot 21 line and we have historically said that requires a water 22 availability study. I'm just bringing that up for 23 point. I think it's a -- why -- that's why I argue 24 against that provision. But others have said that this 25 violates our Model Subdivision Rules and, therefore, we 65 1 can't do it. Just bring it up. So it's what I'm being 2 told by other people, including other Commissioners. 3 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, we're not doing 4 it. We're waiving the platting oversight. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Doesn't make any 6 difference. Just remember this when it comes -- one of 7 these come before us again. And they're coming. 8 COMMISSIONER PACES: If we're not creating a 9 subdivision and then we're just modifying a line -- 10 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Same thing. I was told 11 there's been in Westwood the same exact situation has 12 come up and it was said that that person was told they 13 had to do a water availability study. Just remember it. 14 I'm in favor of it. Be consistent, Court. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah, I don't -- I 16 don't see it that way but -- 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: How do you not? How do 18 you not see it that way? It's a revision of plat. 19 COMMISSIONER PACES: Basically -- yeah, it's 20 not really a subdivision. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yes, it is. It's a 22 homestead. It's a subdivision. There's no question. 23 COMMISSIONER PACES: No. But you're not 24 subdividing -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: It's a revision. 66 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: It is a revision. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Otherwise, we wouldn't 3 be here to waive it. To waive our authority to plat it, 4 not to waive the requirement that I think is ridiculous. 5 Anyway, that's it. That's my comment. 6 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I mean, you're raising a 7 good question. 8 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Right. 9 JUDGE KELLY: And I think -- and I'm just 10 looking at it as a lawyer. I can't help it. If we 11 exercise our jurisdiction, we have to follow our rules, 12 right? Even -- well, I'm saying, is this a situation 13 where we are waiving our jurisdiction to the City and so 14 we don't have to apply our subdivision rules? 15 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I think it's in the ETJ, 16 our rules -- the Model Subdivision Rules stand. 17 MR. HASTINGS: The Model Rules wouldn't 18 apply in this situation. You have two lots. You're 19 still going to have two lots. You're not creating a new 20 one. And -- and one of them is not for residential 21 purposes also. And Model Rules are when you're creating 22 two or more lots that are five acres or less. These two 23 lots exist. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just going forward -- 25 COMMISSIONER PACES: I think our Engineer is 67 1 correct in his interpretation. I agree with that. 2 MR. HASTINGS: In this particular situation. 3 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, you know, I -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: You change a lot line 6 somewhere, you move -- we're revising and we're not 7 increasing the number of lots. I want you, you know, to 8 remember that no -- a water availability study is 9 required. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: We have several from 11 the area coming forward in the near future. And I think 12 it would be prudent for us to visit with Chuck maybe on 13 this. 14 JUDGE KELLY: I agree. I agree. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. I agree. 16 MR. HASTINGS: Do you -- 17 COMMISSIONER PACES: And probably the next 18 one as well. 19 JUDGE KELLY: And I'm not saying anything 20 about engineers, I'm just saying that at the end of the 21 day, this is a legal question. And if we want to be 22 able to enforce our subdivision rules, I want to hear 23 from a lawyer. So we got a motion and a second. Are we 24 going to table it or -- 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, I'm in favor of it. 68 1 I just -- my comments are just -- the way I vote -- I 2 disagree with other action this Court has taken. Just 3 pointing that out. 4 COMMISSIONER PACES: Just my opinion, I 5 don't believe this applies for our subdivision rules. 6 But that's -- 7 (Talking over) 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Then why are we waiving 9 it? 10 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- I'll leave my motion 11 as it stands. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: If it doesn't apply, 13 then why do we waive it? You're waiving our platting 14 authority. That's the motion you made. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: That's right. Exactly. 16 But I agree that we should take this up with our 17 attorney, Chuck Kimbrough. 18 JUDGE KELLY: I agree. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before voting? 20 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let's see here. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, I don't feel 22 strong either way. If you want to table it until we 23 take that opportunity. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I think we do. Let's 25 wait. 69 1 JUDGE KELLY: Well, that's not your motion. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I know. 3 JUDGE KELLY: It's his motion. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Oh, I know. I'm -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I'm ready ready to vote. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah, I -- I know 7 where you stand. 8 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, then I'll 9 withdraw my motion until we hear from our attorney. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You withdraw your 11 second? 12 COMMISSIONER PACES: Unless somebody else 13 wants to make a motion. 14 JUDGE KELLY: So we're going to pass on this 15 and talk to the lawyers? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We're wasting time and 17 money. But go ahead. 18 MR. HASTINGS: We've literally done about 19 half a dozen a year of these for the past ten years, 20 waiving that authority. This one is no different. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I know. I'll make a 22 motion that we waive the authority to the City of 23 Kerrville. 24 COMMISSIONER PACES: Sure. Now you want to 25 do it. 70 1 JUDGE KELLY: Anybody want to second? 2 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second it. I 3 think this is -- 4 MR. HASTINGS: There's some very distinct 5 differences between the one in Westwood and this. A big 6 time difference. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I agree. I see the 8 difference but -- 9 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Those in favor -- we 10 better raise hands on this one. Those in favor raise 11 your hand. 12 COMMISSIONER PACES: All right. I'm going 13 to go for it. 14 JUDGE KELLY: And those against? Those 15 abstaining? 16 (Judge Kelly and Commissioner Harris 17 abstained.) 18 JUDGE KELLY: I would wait -- 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I agree. 20 JUDGE KELLY: -- a little longer. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: What's it going to 22 hurt? 23 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, I still want to 24 hear from the lawyer on it. For future reference. I 25 just don't think there's going to be a problem with it. 71 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't think there's -- 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, I agree but -- 3 MR. HASTINGS: If -- if model rules would 4 have applied in this situation, I wouldn't have brought 5 it to you, at all. 6 JUDGE KELLY: So it's a 3-0-2. 7 Item 1.14 consider, discuss and take 8 appropriate action for the Court to set a public hearing 9 for 10:00 a.m. on July the 22nd of 2024 for a revision 10 of plat for Hidden Valley Ranch Section 2, Lot 94. 11 Charlie. 12 MR. HASTINGS: This proposal revises Lot 94 13 (6.78 acres as platted) into three lots to be known as 14 Lot 94-A (2.01 acres), Lot 94-B (2.75 acres), and Lot 15 94-C (2.00 acres). Each lot will have frontage on 16 Lillian Drive. Lot 94-A will have additional frontage 17 on Camino Real. 18 County Engineer requests the Court set a 19 public hearing for 10:00 a.m. on July 22nd, 2024 for a 20 revision of plat for Hidden Valley Ranch Section 2, Lot 21 94, Volume 4, Page 39, Precinct 1. 22 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Is there a motion to 23 set the public hearing as presented? 24 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll make a motion 25 that we accept 1.14 and set the hearing. 72 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second for 3 the public hearing for Hidden Valley Ranch Section 2, 4 Lot 94. Any discussion? 5 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah, I'll just make a 6 few comments. That in the big scheme of things, this 7 isn't a big deal. Three little lots. But this is 8 another one that I believe we need our lawyer to weigh 9 in on, Chuck Kimbrough. I've got some concerns having 10 seen the so-called TAC 290 Water Availability Study or 11 whatever they want to call it under this, and it's 12 basically a regurgitation of the original study that was 13 done. And I hesitate to call it a water availability 14 study because I don't really believe it qualifies. It 15 was a pump test. And the observation well is completed 16 in a different aquifer. So kind of real tough to say 17 that that was a TAC 230.8. 18 So anyway. But I'm okay with having a 19 public hearing. I suspect that a number of people will 20 want to weigh in on it. And certainly we should have 21 heard from our attorney by then. So I'm not opposed to 22 the public hearing, but I'm concerned about whether this 23 is an appropriate solution to the problem. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Well, that makes it certainly 25 worthy of a hearing. 73 1 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yep. 2 COMMISSIONER PACES: Okay. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Those in favor say aye. 4 Opposed? Abstentions. Everybody? Unanimous. 5 Item 1.15 consider, discuss and take 6 appropriate action regarding a request to waive platting 7 oversight and approval to the City of Kerrville for 8 revision to a Well Lot in Las Colinas. 9 MR. HASTINGS: Today it's all about well 10 lots. Never seen anything like this. But these things 11 happen. 12 This one is different. This is all one well 13 lot. It will be divided. This is a division. It's not 14 moving a lot line, making one lot big or one lot 15 smaller. This is taking a well lot and turning it into 16 both a residential lot and a well lot. 17 This proposal revises the well lot for the 18 community water system, which contains an existing home 19 that predates the subdivision. The home's been there 20 for long time. 21 As proposed, the community well and the 22 existing home will be separated into two lots. The well 23 lot will be reduced to 0.21 acres. The remaining 1.13 24 acres, including the existing home, will be revised into 25 Lot 18-A, fronting on San Juan Mission. Frontage for 74 1 the well lot will be reduced to 99.28'. 2 Since this subdivision is primarily in 3 Kerrville's ETJ, there is a request for the Court to 4 waive platting oversight and approval to the City of 5 Kerrville. If platting oversight is waived, signature 6 blocks for both Kerr County floodplain administrator and 7 OSSF designated representative would still be required. 8 Again, model rules do not apply. It is a 9 division of land, but one of them is being used for 10 nonresidential purposes. It's a well lot only. And 11 model rules apply when it's two or more lots that are 12 five acres or less, that are for residential purposes. 13 County Engineer requests the Court consider, 14 discuss and take appropriate action regarding the 15 request to waive platting oversight and approval to the 16 City of Kerrville for a revision to a well lot in 17 Las Colinas of Kerrville, Volume 8, Page 34, Precinct 18 one. 19 There is a letter attached from Wellborn 20 Engineering and Surveying discussing this issue. And I 21 believe Jared Martin is here, if you have any questions 22 for him or if you're wondering what -- it's his client. 23 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll make a motion that 24 we consider, discuss and take appropriate action for 25 Item 1.15. 75 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: We got a motion and a second 3 to approve waiving plat oversight and approval to the 4 City of Kerrville on a well lot in Las Colinas -- 5 revision of a well lot in Las Colinas. Any discussion? 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I gave my comments 7 before. No reason to do it again. 8 COMMISSIONER PACES: I was just going to 9 reiterate. We really need to get Chuck to weigh in on 10 this. This one especially. Because it is subdividing a 11 lot. I hear what Charlie says about it's not two 12 residential lots, so -- 13 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just a comment to that. 14 We have certain -- the Court has authority to waive our 15 platting authority whenever we want. 16 COMMISSIONER PACES: Sure. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This is not a model 18 subdivision rule. The other one isn't. I'm talking 19 more about consistency across the board. We certainly 20 have authority to do this. We don't need to ask Chuck 21 if we have authority. We have authority. Whether you 22 do want to vote for it or not, that's up to you. 23 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, but -- 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But we do have authority 25 to do it. 76 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: I agree that we have 2 the authority. The question is whether the model 3 subdivision rules would apply or not. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No, they don't. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Well, they apply. 6 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They don't apply. 7 JUDGE KELLY: I don't see that as an issue. 8 COMMISSIONER LETZ: No. It's just 9 whether -- it's a water availability issue and we have 10 the availability to waive platting authority whenever we 11 want. 12 JUDGE KELLY: But we set precedent when we 13 don't follow our rules. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Correct. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And I'm more concerned about 16 are we digging a hole that we're going to regret? 17 Okay. Got a motion and a second. Those in 18 favor raise your hand. Those opposed raise your hand. 19 Those abstain raise your hand. 20 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, I hate to interrupt 21 but what I heard the motion was was to consider and 22 discuss it. I didn't hear a motion to waive platting 23 oversight. That's what I heard. Did anyone else hear 24 the same thing? 25 JUDGE KELLY: Here's what it says. 77 1 Consider, discuss and take appropriate action regarding 2 a request to waive platting oversight and approval to 3 the City of Kerrville for a revision to a well in Las 4 Colinas of Kerrville. So -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: To waive it. That was 6 your intent, wasn't it, Commissioner? 7 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: It was a request to 8 waive it. Yes. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 10 MR. HASTINGS: Okay. I just wanted to 11 clarify that. 12 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yeah. I just 13 shortened it by saying 1.15 instead of reading the whole 14 thing out. 15 MR. HASTINGS: I gotcha. 16 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: It was in there. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So Judge, refresh my 18 rules. 19 JUDGE KELLY: I'm looking at the County 20 Attorney. 21 COMMISSIONER LETZ: 2-0-3 passes, I believe. 22 MRS. STEBBINS: I believe it does, too. But 23 I'll -- let's come back to it. I need to confirm since 24 the majority didn't vote. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. It's a little bit 78 1 different. I mean, I know if there's only three of us 2 here, a 2-1 vote approves it. But -- 3 MRS. STEBBINS: Uh-huh. But the abstentions 4 don't -- 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: They don't count -- 6 MRS. STEBBINS: Right. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So I think it passes but 8 I'm not sure. I'll defer to you. 9 MRS. STEBBINS: Yeah. It's -- I'll confirm. 10 JUDGE KELLY: So we have a 2-0-3? 11 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 12 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: It's getting more fun. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we gotta fix this 14 problem. 15 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah, we do. 16 JUDGE KELLY: We gotta hiccup here we gotta 17 figure out how to get past. Okay. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: When do you want to 19 try to talk to him, our outside attorney on this -- on 20 these, several of these? 21 JUDGE KELLY: About the water availability. 22 Moving on to Item 1.16 consider, discuss and 23 take appropriate action for the Commissioners' Court 24 approval to surplus RBU 238, a 2020 Hamm H10i Cab, 25 Smooth Drum Roller. Miss Hoffer. 79 1 MISS HOFFER: We purchased this roller back 2 in 2022. After purchasing this roller, we had put very 3 few hours on it. We started having issues with it. And 4 then we found out, which we were not told when we 5 purchased it, that this Hamm roller -- the engine has a 6 separate warranty from the actual unit. And so that 7 warranty starts when that engine is completed being 8 built. 9 So if an engine sits for awhile before it 10 goes into the actual chassis, the piece of equipment, 11 you may have a motor that doesn't have much of a 12 warranty left on it. Which we were not very happy 13 about. 14 The company that we bought it from said that 15 they did not work on those motors, so they had suggested 16 a company in San Antonio, Stewart & Stevenson, for us to 17 take that roller to. We did. Got it back. Still had 18 some problems. I have the Road & Bridge mechanic here 19 if we've got further questions. He will be able to 20 answer those. Got it back and Tony's suggestion was, I 21 think, that we should -- while it still is running -- we 22 have a few since we got it back, let's surplus this. 23 Trade it in. And let's get a different brand roller 24 that has a Cummins motor in it, I believe. 25 And we have -- we've had a Dynapac roller 80 1 that we've had real good luck with. So that's why we're 2 surplusing this roller. I mean, I know everybody from 3 the Court probably saw a 2020 roller and went, wow, 4 that's not that old. But I kind of agree with Tony. 5 And if you have any questions on it, we would like to 6 surplus this because we would like to trade it in and 7 get a new roller of a different brand and different 8 motor. 9 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I move for approval. 10 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second. 11 JUDGE KELLY: We've got a motion and second 12 to surplus the 2020 Hamm H10i Cab, Smooth Drum Roller. 13 Any discussion? 14 COMMISSIONER PACES: Just saying it's a 15 shame. 16 JUDGE KELLY: Well, it's gotta be done. I 17 understand that. 18 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: We've all had lemons 20 at some point. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Well, we're -- we're not 22 disparaging anybody. We're just surplusing this so we 23 can trade it in for a brand new one. 24 COMMISSIONER PACES: What's the trade-in 25 value on this thing? 81 1 MS. HOFFER: I think they're giving us -- 2 Tony, is it 80? 3 TONY: Eighty thousand they're going to give 4 us on that. And while we still have it, if the motor 5 does go south which I'm pretty sure it will here real 6 soon, we're looking at 27,000 for a new motor. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other discussion? 8 Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 9 Quickly let's move on to Item 1.17, which is 10 consider, discuss and take appropriate action for the 11 Commissioners' Court to approve the purchase of a 12 2024 -- am I on the right one? 13 COMMISSIONER PACES: Yeah. 14 JUDGE KELLY: -- Dynapac CA2500D (12 ton) 15 smooth drum roller, and trade-in the RBU 238 that we 16 talked about just a minute ago. 17 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Move for approval. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion. 19 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second. 20 JUDGE KELLY: And a second. Any discussion? 21 Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 22 Got both of those done. 23 Moving on to -- I'm trying to get back to 24 this timed item. That's why I'm going so fast. 25 1.18 consider, discuss and take appropriate 82 1 action for the Commissioners' Court approval to purchase 2 a 2025 Kenworth T480 4,000-gallon Water Truck. 3 MS. HOFFER: We had on our -- we have 4 completed our purchases. Now we have orders that we 5 have not received yet, but we have that money set aside 6 for those. So we have some money left over from what 7 was approved last year for our capital outlay equipment 8 purchases. 9 In our original list for the upcoming fiscal 10 year, we had put in for two Mack 2000-gallon water 11 trucks. But what we'd like to do is -- you won't find 12 those two trucks on the upcoming fiscal year. We took 13 them off to get this 4,000-gallon truck. And the big 14 reason for that is, we haven't been able to draw from 15 the river with our temporary water permit for quite 16 awhile. We have to come in town to the loop to the 17 wastewater treatment plant to get our water. We buy it. 18 But if you have a 4,000-gallon truck, you're 19 not making as many trips. To do those two 2,000-gallon 20 water trucks, to buy two of them, the projected total 21 for two would be 276650. And for this Kenworth that we 22 have found out of Houston, brand new truck, 170,591.90. 23 And we just think that being able to take out to these 24 locations twice the water in one trip, not only that, 25 but it'll keep from delaying the process of that roller 83 1 waiting to come onto the road once you put the water 2 down, the blade operator, all of that. So it will keep 3 from having down time. 4 Because what they've done is they've taken 5 two 2000-gallon water trucks that we currently have, we 6 have another 4,000-gallon, so there is never a down time 7 on this process. When that 4,000-gallon truck offloads 8 and is empty, that truck starts heading back to 9 Kerrville and you've got this other 4,000-gallon water 10 truck that will offload. By the time that truck gets 11 back -- I mean used to be when I was out in the field, 12 the blade operator and the roller operator were waiting 13 for you to get back with 2,000 gallons. And you go 14 through 2,000 gallons pretty quick. So we feel this is 15 a better purchase. It will save the County money. 16 And we have -- currently have three 17 2,000-gallon water trucks that are running fine. And so 18 we think that the 4,000-gallon truck which is still 19 running will be better when it comes to water. 20 COMMISSIONER PACES: Kelly, is this a vacuum 21 truck so you can draft from the river? 22 MS. HOFFER: Yes. 23 COMMISSIONER PACES: Then I move for 24 approval -- 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 84 1 COMMISSIONER PACES: -- that we go ahead and 2 purchase a 2025 Kenworth T480 4,000-gallon water truck. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second. 5 Any discussion? Those in favor say aye. Opposed? 6 Unanimous. Thank you. 7 MS. HOFFER: Thank you. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Now, quickly, item 1.19. This 9 is consider, discuss and take appropriate action to 10 approve and authorize the County Judge to sign Xerox 11 contract for the County Attorney's Office. This is just 12 a routine. 13 MRS. STEBBINS: Yes. We're getting a new 14 printer, and it will save the county about $500.00 a 15 year. 16 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and second. Any 19 discussion? Those in favor say aye. Unanimous. 20 Okay. Moving on to a timed item. It's 21 running a little late, I apologize to everyone. But 22 this is Item 1.20, and this is a discussion regarding 23 the proposed budget and tax rate. 24 Is there anyone here in the public that 25 would like to address the Court? 85 1 (No response.) 2 JUDGE KELLY: Well, by way of explanation to 3 the folks at home that are watching this on YouTube, I 4 put this as a discussion item on the agenda for us to be 5 able to talk about the budget and the tax rate. We've 6 had three workshops and we've heard from either 7 in-person or what they're proposed ask back to us from 8 all 24 elected official offices, as well as the 17 9 department heads, as well as some other dedicated funds. 10 The ask is in. We've already heard it. And it's a 11 little over 65 million dollars. 12 And what we're going to do now is I'm going 13 to go to work on a proposed budget, based upon what was 14 asked. And this is the opportunity for those folks in 15 the public that if they hadn't listened to the 16 workshops, they can go back and listen to them. They're 17 on the website. To offer any comments to us as to 18 whether or not -- or what their opinions would be as to 19 what's been asked for at this point. 20 Now, just to give a little recap so that 21 people will remember where we are. Last year's budget 22 was about 52 and a half million dollars. And -- excuse 23 me, it was -- yeah, 52,456. And we started that year 24 with a tax rate of 44 -- this is .4051 cents per hundred 25 dollar valuation. And that was a reduction from the 86 1 rate from the year before, which was -- we had -- 2 Charles, it's the other one that has these numbers on 3 it. 4 There you go. Look at Line 1 tells you the 5 tax rate back when -- my first budget, you said there is 6 2019-2020. The tax rate was 51 and a half cents per 7 hundred. The next year we reduced it down to 47 and a 8 half cents per hundred. The year after that, we reduced 9 it down to 42 -- 45.4 cents per hundred. And then 10 finally, we got it down to 40 and a half cents was the 11 tax rate. And the tax rate decreased. 12 If you look at Line 3, you can see the total 13 revenues have increased and that's because of the 14 appraisals, and new construction, and we have no control 15 over what the Appraisal District does. That's all 16 defined by the Secretary of State. And we have no -- 17 really no control over the new values that gets added 18 when they -- we build new properties here in town. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Comptroller; not 20 Secretary of State. 21 JUDGE KELLY: Comptroller. I stand 22 corrected. Comptroller. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Don't want to blame the 24 Secretary of State for this. 25 JUDGE KELLY: Now, when we talk about 87 1 over-budgeted, we talked about, you know, whether or not 2 we really adopt a deficit budget or not. I'm talking 3 about Line 5. If you look at Line 5, you can see each 4 year those numbers are in parenthesis. And any 5 accountant will tell you that means that that is a 6 negative number. That -- that's accountant speak. 7 And if you look, while we put that in the 8 budget we did not spend the money. Because at the end 9 of the fiscal year, all the money wasn't spent. And 10 that gets back to everybody has their own little 11 contingency fund in their individual budgets. And then 12 we have our countywide contingency budget. And so we 13 allot for more contingencies occurring than actually 14 occur, and so the money doesn't get spent. And that's 15 why I put that last line on there, which is Line 6, the 16 reserve balance. 17 And you will see that every year that we 18 budgeted is more money than we had -- we thought the 19 revenue was going to produce. That's why the revenues 20 are on there. So you can see it. We have more money in 21 the bank, in the fund balance, than we had over-budgeted 22 in our budget. 23 And so, what I'm trying to do is to start a 24 conversation, public conversation, and take a look at 25 this. When you look at this year's budget, whether it's 88 1 62 and a half or 63 that we're looking at, I think the 2 total ask is right at 63. Is significantly more and 3 you'll find in it that we've got an additional 13 4 million dollars from last year or at least what, 52 -- 5 11 million dollars. And that represents actually 6 budgeting for the Animal Services facility, because of 7 the bond issue. We have to put it in the budget or we 8 can't spend it, so we had to increase that and it's, 9 what, almost -- it's 5.6 million. 10 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: 5.6. 11 JUDGE KELLY: And budgeting spending the 12 rest of our ARPA money. And we've got all of it but, 13 what, 300,000 that we believe is committed, and that 14 includes stuff like the Sheriff's communication system. 15 But it has to be in the budget and we haven't spent that 16 money yet. But that accounts for why the budget's gone 17 up so high. 18 And so as this becomes public, we'll put 19 this all on the website. We invite the public to come 20 talk to us. And then, this notebook -- I'll just put it 21 up so they can see it -- is what I'm working from and it 22 has each one of those 41 asks in here. And some people 23 have asked to have everybody in their department get a 24 raise. Some people have asked for just some. Some have 25 asked for new hires. It's all in the book. And we put 89 1 that on the website so you can take a look at it. But 2 we want the public to have the opportunity to talk to us 3 before we enact this budget and before we set a tax 4 rate. And that's the purpose of this agenda item. So 5 since nobody's here, I said enough. Anything else 6 anybody else wants to say? 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Just quick comment, 8 Judge. I believe Commissioner 1 and 2 were out of the 9 office during the break when we briefly talked about 10 another budget workshop. A need for one. I think that 11 we need one. Two things. One, to go over ARPA. To go 12 over projects. Construction projects. And moving some 13 offices around potentially. And also, we really ought 14 to have some sort of talk on market adjustment. 15 JUDGE KELLY: Wait. What adjustment? 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Market. For wage 17 adjustment. 18 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: COLA. 19 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I don't call it COLA. 20 But -- 21 JUDGE KELLY: We all call it wage 22 adjustment. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. Wage adjustment. 24 And hopefully have some numbers from the appraisers at 25 that time. By the time we get -- I know you're working 90 1 on your budget, but I think all four of those items 2 would be helpful to know before we go into the final 3 round. 4 JUDGE KELLY: It would be helpful -- it 5 would be helpful to me to hear from y'all about what 6 you're thinking about this. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: But I think those four 8 topics I'd like to see on a workshop. And other stuff. 9 JUDGE KELLY: And we were looking at trying 10 to do it on a Monday. And we're kicking around July 1. 11 And y'all weren't here when we were doing this. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The three of us are 13 available July 1. 14 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'm available. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And so we'll schedule a 16 special meeting on July 1 and we'll have these -- have 17 this budget item, as well as the ARPA and your plan. 18 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'm free that morning. 19 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: If we try to do that, 20 do you think we could do it after lunch? 21 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I can't. 22 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You can't? 23 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Huh-uh. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Can you do it before 25 lunch? 91 1 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Uh-huh. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I've got an 3 appointment and it's out of town at 11:00. We could 4 have a short workshop. 5 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: We could be here from 6 9:00 to 11:00. 7 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Or it could actually be 8 the afternoon of the 24th. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let's talk about this 10 special Commissioners' Court meeting. There would be 11 some action probably we'd need to take on how to 12 obligate the remaining ARPA funds, which could be the 13 first item on the agenda. I guess the first item would 14 be Noel making her presentation explaining all of it, 15 and then we make a decision on it. But I really hate to 16 not have everybody present. 17 COMMISSIONER PACES: Well, what about -- we 18 did some workshops on Thursdays. What about the 20th or 19 the 27th of this month? 20 JUDGE KELLY: I can't do that. 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: On the 1st, could we 22 start it earlier? Could we start at 8:00? 23 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I can start at 8:00. 24 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. Let's do that. 92 1 JUDGE KELLY: Start at 8:00? 2 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: 8:00 to 11:00? 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I think that would 4 work for me. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then on Monday, 6 July 1st, 8:00 o'clock. And no breakfast tacos. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Are you okay, Rich? 8 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'm thinking that's the 9 only reason I'll come at 8:00 is if there's breakfast. 10 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Well, it's a worthy 11 discussion. 12 Move on to Item 1.21 consider, discuss and 13 take appropriate action to approve a Resolution honoring 14 Vince Isley. Sheriff. 15 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yeah, I'm just looking for 16 y'all's approval to approve this for Vince Isley. He's 17 retiring. And y'all have a copy of it but if y'all 18 would like to read it, too, y'all can. 19 JUDGE KELLY: Well, let me read the 20 resolution. And I need somebody to make a motion and 21 somebody to make a second. 22 Resolution of Kerr County Commissioners' 23 Court Congratulating Kerr County Sheriff's Deputy Vince 24 Isley on his retirement after 21 years and 11 months of 25 law enforcement and community service to Kerr County, 93 1 Texas. 2 WHEREAS, Deputy Isley has served the 3 citizens of Kerr County for 21 years and 11 months and 4 has announced his plans to honorably retire on June 29, 5 2024; and 6 WHEREAS, his career in law enforcement spans 7 36 years of service, including a variety of duties and 8 promotions within the Rhinelander, Wisconsin Police 9 Department, Cook County, Illinois Sheriff's Office, Tom 10 Green County, Texas and now concluding at the Kerr 11 County Sheriff's office as an Administrative 12 Deputy/Fleet Manager; and 13 WHEREAS, he has earned 3140 higher education 14 and TCOLE hours, as well as a Texas Commission on Law 15 Enforcement Master Peace Officer License; and 16 WHEREAS, he has received numerous 17 commendations from citizens, as well as within the 18 department, throughout his career. 19 BE IT RESOLVED, that on this day, June 24, 20 2024, Kerr County Commissioners' Court does hereby thank 21 and congratulate Deputy Vince Isley for his service to 22 Kerr County and wish him and his family the very best in 23 retirement. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 25 COMMISSIONER PACES: Second. 94 1 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 2 JUDGE KELLY: We got a motion and a second. 3 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Whichever way. 4 JUDGE KELLY: And I can truthfully say, 5 Deputy Isley is very worthy of this Resolution. And he 6 is an adopted son of Texas, for those of you that don't 7 know him. But he is an adopted son of Texas. So those 8 in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. Thank you. 9 We've got you a Resolution right here. 10 Okay. 1.22 consider, discuss and take 11 appropriate action to approve justification for Soul 12 Source procurement of product and services for Trinity 13 Innovative Solutions for the Operation Lone Star Grant 14 in accordance with the Local Government Code, 15 Discretionary Exemptions subsection (c) if an item 16 exempted under Subsection (a)(7) is purchased, the 17 Commissioners' Court, after accepting a signed statement 18 from the county official who makes purchases for the 19 County as to the existence of only one source, must 20 enter in its minutes a statement to that effect. 21 Now, I know that's very technical, Scott, 22 but we understand what we're talking about here. 23 MR. GAIGE: Yeah. This is -- the only 24 correction on that -- this isn't only for Operation Lone 25 Star, it's actually from Operation Stone Garden. 95 1 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. 2 MR. GAIGE: I think -- that's the only 3 adjustment. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Can we call that a -- 5 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Are we okay, Heather? 6 JUDGE KELLY: -- nunc pro tunc? 7 MRS. STEBBINS: Say that again? 8 JUDGE KELLY: It's Operation Stone Garden -- 9 MR. GAIGE: Stone Garden; not Operation Lone 10 Star. 11 MRS. STEBBINS: Well -- 12 JUDGE KELLY: What we're really talking 13 about, I think, is just determining the Sole Source 14 criteria to be able to apply that. 15 MRS. SEBBINS: I understand that. But will 16 that affect the grant funding if you don't have this 17 with the correct language properly posted? 18 JUDGE KELLY: I think he's trying to comply 19 with what the Auditor's required, right? 20 MRS. STEBBINS: It's what State Law 21 requires. 22 JUDGE KELLY: And the State law requires. I 23 understand. 24 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Is this time 25 sensitive? 96 1 MR. GAIGE: No, sir. 2 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Bring it back. Yeah. 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Straighten it out for 4 the next Commissioners' Court. 5 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Can it wait two weeks? 6 MR. GAIGE: Yeah. 7 JUDGE KELLY: Put Stone Garden on it? 8 MR. GAIGE: Yeah. All that's -- it's just 9 going to change from -- 10 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: That makes it easy. 11 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: That's a simple fix. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Well, I think we all 13 understand what's going on here, right? 14 MR. GAIGE: Yeah. 15 JUDGE KELLY: And if we could vote on it 16 today we would, but come back in two weeks and we'll do 17 it. 18 MR. GAIGE: Just for note, this is the same 19 vendor we've used the past two times. Those other two 20 trailers were just for Lone Star. This is the only 21 Stone Garden one, so -- but we can bring it right back. 22 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Okay. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So we'll just pass on 24 that for today. 25 Item 1.23 consider, discuss and take 97 1 appropriate action to extend the number of hours with 2 the Land-Mobile-Radio Project Manager, a temporary 3 position, which was approved through Court Order 39821, 4 to an additional 182 hours using the American Rescue 5 Plan Act funding. 6 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yes. Looking for the 7 Commissioners' Court approval to extend the hours of 182 8 hours for our project manager, Jeff Wendling. I can 9 kind of give you an update on it. When we originally 10 started the project, it was originally targeted for the 11 Spring of 2024. And I'll explain some of the issues 12 we've had. 13 It's kind of going to push into the fourth 14 quarter of 2024. The main one is the fiber optic line. 15 The fiber optic line is the main line that goes from 16 Kerr County to San Antonio to connect gauges to make it 17 work. We worked with AT&T for about eight months now 18 and we thought everything was good and we just recently, 19 in the last two weeks, found out that they're not going 20 to be able to provide that service, which was really a 21 shock to us. 22 We're now working with Hill Country 23 Telephone. Things are looking good. I'm pretty sure 24 we're going to be able to work that out, but that did 25 put us back. It did not stop the project, but it is -- 98 1 it's going to extend it for sure. One of the main 2 things is we're going to have four consoles put into the 3 Sheriff's office which should already be done, but 4 because of this we've got to continue to communicate. 5 You know, so we can't put them in there until we have 6 that line. 7 And the next one with the Comfort project, 8 which that didn't really hold it up. I held that up for 9 six weeks. As y'all remember, we didn't know whether we 10 were going to be able to stay or not. You know, it's 11 still looking good. But work continues to happen there. 12 But just so you know, Jeff Wendling is the project 13 manager. He only works on this time we're asking to 14 extend on the project. I have three other guys assigned 15 to that project. One's the chief deputy who oversees 16 the project and works with Wendling and checks his 17 hours, you know, regularly. 18 We attend Thursday morning meetings every 19 week to catch up, usually with Motorola. Lieutenant 20 Gaige is also on that project. He does more of the -- 21 we're fixing to start installing radios and they were 22 going to start but he has to make a lot of trips to San 23 Antonio and Bexar County to pick up stuff. And Isley, I 24 don't know what I'm going to do. He's been a tremendous 25 part of this project. So you understand, like I said, 99 1 he specifically works on it $75 an hour. We keep him 2 busy on this project. And the Comfort side, you know, 3 we have to adhere to what the landowners requested. 4 Right now we have several subcontractors out there. 5 And I'll tell you, some of the landowners 6 have gotten unhappy with us several times. You know, 7 they want their gate closed. Because there's one guy 8 out there working, we can say can you close the gates. 9 You got several vendors, it's been left open. So I've 10 had to sign them in for an 8-hour shift which is -- you 11 know, it's hard to swallow. But -- so just so you know, 12 there's three other officers that are on this project. 13 But basically, my request to y'all is extending the 182 14 hours, which should take us to the end of November and 15 the end of this project. 16 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move for approval. 17 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll second. 18 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second to 19 approve extending the land-mobile-radio project manager 20 for 182 hours. Any discussion? 21 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Well, yes. It's not 22 really what's in here. But you just said something 23 about gate issues and having to put somebody out there 24 to -- 25 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yeah. I mean, you know, 100 1 we're at the -- you know, landowners kinda got a say on 2 that and -- 3 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I don't blame them. 4 SHERIFF LEITHA: -- you know, the gate has 5 been left open. You know, there were cattle coming out. 6 You know, like I said, if it's one vendor, you know, 7 we -- and he has to run out there and unlock it and say, 8 hey, can you please close the gate. But after a couple 9 times of that, it doesn't happen. 10 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: How often? 11 SHERIFF LEITHA: Oh, you know, it's only 12 when they're out there. Right now -- 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Okay. 14 SHERIFF LEITHA: -- it's been like -- 15 they're probably out there like a couple weeks at a 16 time. You know, now he's not out there all that time. 17 There's several vendors. And we ask them to close it. 18 But kind of got to a point when you got to ask and 19 they're unhappy the, like, you know, he -- you know, I'd 20 say maybe a couple days a week they've been out there. 21 I mean, it's -- you can ask them to close it but whether 22 or not they do, it's a different thing. 23 JUDGE KELLY: A closed gate in a rural 24 community is pretty important. 25 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Exactly. And it's a 101 1 known deal with people. Do you want our business or 2 not? Get on your guys. 3 SHERIFF LEITHA: We do. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: I don't know. You 5 know, we could have gauge -- people reading gauges all 6 over Texas and stuff and that's just one of the first 7 things to learn. And I see people haven't learned it. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Well, Sheriff, why don't you 9 do this. Why don't you tell your contractors that the 10 Court is upset about it. 11 SHERIFF LEITHA: Okay. 12 JUDGE KELLY: And we're telling you that you 13 need to get them to keep those gates closed. 14 SHERIFF LEITHA: I gotcha. 15 JUDGE KELLY: So blame it on us. 16 SHERIFF LEITHA: I'll do that Thursday. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: And I can see the 18 individual -- of course I probably know the individual. 19 SHERIFF LEITHA: Yeah. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This property is right 21 next to Interstate 10 and 87. It's in a very -- I would 22 have the unfortunate experience right across the road 23 not too long ago letting the cows out and they got on 24 the interstate. This is not a good situation. 25 JUDGE KELLY: No, it's not. 102 1 SHERIFF LEITHA: So on the liability side of 2 it I understand now what you're saying. That cow gets 3 hit if we let it out. That's where we're at. 4 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yeah. I know. 5 SHERIFF LEITHA: I gotcha. I mean I agree 6 with you. You know, that's -- I'll address it. 7 JUDGE KELLY: But we do have governmental 8 immunity and we are insured with TAC, but if the cow 9 gets out and somebody hits it, it's probably going to be 10 problems for us right away. 11 SHERIFF LEITHA: Absolutely. But I'll do 12 that, Judge. Thank y'all. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. So those in favor say 14 aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 15 1.24 consider, discuss and take appropriate 16 action to approve a ten-year extension to the Interlocal 17 Agreement for Firefighting and Emergency Services 18 between the City of Kerrville and Kerr County as 19 approved with Court Order 40634. 20 And this is to renew our EMS contract with 21 the City and the good news is that we have with what's 22 recommended to the Court and we have an agreement from 23 the City is recommending that we extend the existing 24 contract we have. 25 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So this is just the 103 1 actual -- we voted to do this, this is the actual 2 contract. Move for approval. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. This is the contract. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Move for approval. 5 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll second. 6 JUDGE KELLY: So we got a motion and a 7 second. Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 8 Item 1.25 consider, discuss and take 9 appropriate action on possible violations of the Flood 10 Damage Prevention Court Order at 284 Wharton. Charlie. 11 MR. HASTINGS: Judge, I'm asking for that to 12 be in Executive Session, please. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Then we'll do that in 14 Executive Session. 15 Let's move on to the Approval agenda. 2.1 16 budget amendments. 17 MRS. SHELTON: Yes, you have eight budget 18 adjustments in font of you. The largest is for the 19 Juvenile Probation adjustment. They need a vehicle. 20 And also the housing cost for juveniles have gone sky 21 high. The juvenile probation board did approve this at 22 their last meeting. 23 The second one is to increase the KCAD 24 contract. And then the third one is insurance proceeds 25 that we've received and the Sheriff's office is going to 104 1 get those vehicles replaced. 2 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Move for approval. 3 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion. 4 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Second. 5 JUDGE KELLY: And a second. By way of 6 explanation for the juveniles. In this year's budget, 7 this fiscal year's budget, Juvenile Probation cuts their 8 request for housing by a hundred thousand dollars 9 because they had not spent all their budget in prior 10 years. And I talk about this over-budgeting thing that 11 we do in our budget culture. We asked Jason about it 12 last year and he took it to heart and he reduced his 13 budget by a hundred thousand dollars. 14 In the meantime, there's still an acute 15 shortage of juvenile beds. Especially female beds. And 16 what we're doing here is asking for budget amendment for 17 this year because we didn't have enough money in there 18 to pay what we're actually spending. 19 And on the vehicle, we -- we've kept that 20 vehicle going for a long time. His staff will not even 21 drive it anymore because it's not reliable enough to get 22 them home. And we hate to put a kid in it and try to 23 transport them to detention and they get stranded out on 24 the side of the road. So I'm just telling you. We've 25 worked hard trying to keep that down. And we did. 105 1 He needs a vehicle and we need to pay these 2 additional -- we went from having an average cost of 3 detention from being, you know, 150 or sometimes even a 4 little less, up to being as much as 250 to 300 per day 5 per bed. 6 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: You know, and I was 7 asked by somebody the other day after the workshop about 8 how that's a big increase. Well, why don't you fix up 9 our facility out here? Well, that's an even bigger 10 expense. Talking about a million. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and so that the public 12 understands, the only viable option to use that facility 13 that Kerr County has is from Texas Juvenile Justice 14 Department. And what they want to do is to bring the 15 most hard core kids they got and put them in our County. 16 And we said no. The Juvenile Board has said no, we 17 don't want to house those kids. We want people that are 18 less risk than that. Now, if you change your mind, let 19 us know. 20 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Before probably all of 21 y'all, they used to operate that facility. I don't know 22 when they shut it down but -- 23 JUDGE KELLY: 2017. I remember it vividly. 24 COMMISSIONER LETZ: The liability to the 25 County of having these kids, and the problems with these 106 1 kids -- it's just a bad situation. Who do you contract 2 it out to, a third party? That would be one thing. But 3 I certainly don't recommend us ever operating that 4 facility again. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Well, and I think Sheriff, you 6 can confirm this. One of the big differences between 7 adult and juvenile incarcerations, detentions, is we 8 have to have eyes on 24/7. And eyes on the kid 24/7. 9 And it's pretty expensive to run an operation like that. 10 And those are Federal requirements. It's 11 non-negotiable. So that's just -- these are some budget 12 amendments, but I'm just explaining you why -- why -- 13 what -- the juvenile has gone back up to where it was 14 and I have talked them out of over-budgeting and did, 15 which I appreciated. Now he's telling us it's gone back 16 up. 17 MRS. SHELTON: And that was the reason we 18 increased the contingency from the prior year to what 19 the current year is. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Yeah. That was part of the 21 justification that we had to make, a bigger contingency 22 fund. 23 COMMISSIONER LETZ: This went back to 24 when -- just for the public really, we used to operate 25 the facility, two facilities. During that time and now, 107 1 the Federal laws have changed substantially. And really 2 increased the amount or the costs for people to operate. 3 And that's the reason it was -- when we first had the 4 facility, it was break even or made a profit. By the 5 time we shut it down, I think we were losing about a 6 million dollars a year. 7 JUDGE KELLY: It was. I remember sitting in 8 the blue chairs and it was a million dollars a year. 9 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So -- and that's largely 10 due to law, regulation changes. 11 JUDGE KELLY: And it's even more now. 12 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Yeah. 13 JUDGE KELLY: Probably double that. 14 COMMISSIONER LETZ: So it would be great to 15 find a use for those buildings but -- 16 COMMISSIONER PACES: It would make a good 17 storage facility. Although we really need to get some 18 of the stuff that we're storing in there out and just 19 get rid of it. And that's a different matter. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. We got a motion and a 21 second to approve the budget amendments as presented. 22 Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 23 2.2 pay bills. 24 MRS. SHELTON: Yes. Invoices for today's 25 consideration, $902,027.34. 108 1 COMMISSIONER LETZ: I move we approve the 2 disbursements. 3 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: I'll second. 4 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second to 5 approve paying the bills as presented. Any discussion? 6 Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 7 Late bills. 8 MRS. SHELTON: There are not any. 9 JUDGE KELLY: Auditor reports. 10 MRS. SHELTON: There are not any. 11 JUDGE KELLY: Thank you. 12 2.5 monthly reports. 13 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Yes. For February, 14 2024 payroll approval, County Treasurer, Tracy Soldan. 15 May, 2024, Environmental Health, OSSF, Director, Ashli 16 Badders. Constable Tommy Rodriguez, Precinct 1. Kyle 17 Schneider, Precinct 2. Paul Gonzales, Precinct 3. Brad 18 Rider, Precinct 4. Justice of the Peace, Mitzy French, 19 Precinct 1. Judge Kathy Mitchell, Precinct 3. I move 20 for approval. 21 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll second. 22 JUDGE KELLY: We got a motion and a second 23 to approve the monthly reports as presented. Any 24 discussion? Those in favor say aye. Opposed? 25 JUDGE KELLY: Unanimous. 109 1 Court orders. 2 COMMISSIONER LETZ: We have our Court orders 3 from our May 20th meeting -- or May 28th meeting and our 4 June 3rd meeting. Numbers 40644 through 40670. They 5 all look to be in order and I'll make a motion to 6 approve. 7 COMMISSIONER HARRIS: Second. 8 JUDGE KELLY: Got a motion and a second to 9 approve the court orders as presented. Any discussion? 10 Those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. 11 Information Agenda. Any department heads? 12 Okay. Nobody moved. 13 Status reports from elected officials? 14 Constable Gonzales. You waited all this 15 time for this. 16 CONSTABLE GONZALES: No, sir. No problem. 17 Good morning, County Judge and Commissioners. I'm not 18 sure if this is the appropriate place to say this but 19 it's just a status report information regarding upcoming 20 summer kickoff, employee appreciation luncheon that will 21 take place not this coming Friday, but the following, on 22 June 21st here at the courthouse. It's going to give an 23 opportunity just to thank the employees for all their 24 hard work. Beginning at 11:00 a.m. to 1:30 p.m., with 25 hamburgers and hot dogs on the side. So just wanted you 110 1 to know we're working on that and just wanted to make 2 the Court aware and the general public aware that we all 3 do appreciate all the employees, all their hard work, 4 and their dedication to this community. Thank you. 5 JUDGE KELLY: Well, thank you. And Paul, if 6 you would, convey my apologies because I will be out of 7 town. I'll be at the State Bar convention receiving my 8 50 year certificate of practicing attorneys. But my 9 thoughts -- 10 CONSTABLE GONZALES: Congratulations. 11 JUDGE KELLY: -- my thoughts will be with 12 the employees. 13 CONSTABLE GONZALES: Yes, sir. 14 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. Any other -- any other 15 Liaison Commissioner reports? Or status report? 16 COMMISSIONER PACES: I'll just make note 17 that the annual board meeting for the airport is this 18 Wednesday, June 13th at the Dietert Center, starting at 19 1:30 for anybody interested. 20 JUDGE KELLY: Very good. Well, that 21 concludes the consideration agenda. Let's take a short 22 break and then we'll go into Executive Session. 23 (Break) 24 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. It is now 11:47. We're 25 coming out of Executive Session. And we'll move on to 111 1 Item 5.1 -- or excuse me. There's action that may be 2 required on matters discussed in Executive Session. So 3 I'm going to recall Item 1.15, which is to consider, 4 discuss and take appropriate action regarding a request 5 to waive platting oversight and approval to the City of 6 Kerrville for a revision of Well Lot in Las Colinas in 7 Kerrville. 8 And we took a vote on that earlier. And we 9 had two in favor, none abstained and two against. And 10 so -- 11 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: No. Opposite. 12 JUDGE KELLY: Three abstaining. Correct. 13 And so we went back and checked Robert's Rules and we 14 really need to have a majority of the votes of the 15 quorum that is present. So I'm going to call that again 16 and those in favor of it say -- raise your hand. 17 COMMISSIONER LETZ: Okay. 18 JUDGE KELLY: 10-2? 19 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: Yes. 20 JUDGE KELLY: 10-2. 21 COMMISSIONER OVERBY: We're raising our 22 hands. 23 JUDGE KELLY: Okay. And then those against? 24 I'll raise my hand. So that now we have the majority of 25 the quorum voted. And then those who abstained. So now 112 1 it becomes a 2-1-2. 2 And I think that's all the action we have to 3 come out of Executive Session. And with that, we are 4 adjourned. 5 * * * * * * 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 113 1 STATE OF TEXAS * 2 COUNTY OF KERR * 3 I, DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD, Certified Shorthand 4 Reporter in and for the State of Texas, and Official 5 Court Reporter in and for Kerr County, do hereby certify 6 that the above and foregoing pages contain and comprise 7 a true and correct transcription of the proceedings had 8 in the above-entitled Regular Commissioners' Court. 9 Dated this the 21st day of June, A.D. 2024. 10 11 /s/DEBRA ELLEN GIFFORD Certified Shorthand Reporter 12 No. 953 Expiration Date 04/30/2025 13 * * * * * * 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25